/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6040907
>I've been a Nintendo guy for nearly my entire life, but the Dreamcast always struck me as a really fascinating and unique console
I'm like this but with the Saturn instead. Something about these systems, maybe their imperfections or quirkiness that make them unique.

>>6040907
It’s a fun, quirky little console. I’ve always felt like it was kindred spirits with the GameCube. Just be aware of the laser death.

>>6040907
Good god, that is the saddest setup I have ever seen. And man have I seen some shit on here. Suicide inducing.

>>6040929
If it does die he can just pick up a clone gdemu. Lots of cheap dreamcasts on eBay with dead disc drives if your going to go the gdemu route.

>>6040932
I meant “be aware of” in the literal sense of “know that this is a thing that happens and prepare accordingly” desu.

>>6040939
Do the different laser units have more likely hood of dieing? I have one of the Japan ones and just lubed it and it's working good but I'm also exclusively running burned games which I heard is hard on it.

>>6040939
You're a stupid fucking faggot. DESU

>>6040945
I may be a lot of things, but I’m not stupid desu.
*grabs your bulge and licks your face*
oWo

The Dreamcast was the first Sega console I owned, mostly because it had a near-Christmas release prior to the other companies releasing their next gen offerings. If the Gamecube of the PS2 had come out around that time, I'd surely have asked for either of those consoles instead of a Dreamcast. I'd guess this was a not too uncommon situation.

>>6040907
... i had so much hope...

It's a fun machine with some unique games - but you could apply that statement to nearly every console on the planet. I got a dreamcast for my 11th birthday, and it's still one of my favourite systems.
Crazy Taxi is a great time-based driving experience.
Shenmue is a wonderful experience, but hasn't aged gracefully, it does take some commitment.
Powerstone 2 is a must play, just because it's so silly.
Rayman 2, although not an exclusive, is best played on this system.

Give it a go if it looks interesting. It's all emulated very well under redream if that's your preference.

>>6040929
Is it a programming or hardware fault with the Dreamcast that it so poorly handles read errors, or is it a flaw with GD-ROM technology itself? It seems like most consoles will just keep chugging and chugging until they eventually get a good read out of a dirty or scratched disc, but the Dreamcast seems to have a very high chance of just freezing entirely upon encountering a read error, even on a disc which while used isn't too badly beat up (and in places where it sometimes does indeed get a good read, so not talking about disc rot or a flaked off data layer).

>>6040961
stupid faggot

>>6040907
If you do decide to take the plunge, I highly advise that you splurge on the rare Golden Dreamcast model.

>>6040945
>>6041006
Is that all you simple people know how to say? This board just sucks. I'm rotting my mind here.

>>6041013
/vr/ was relatively comfy and slow prior to 2016

>>6040992
It's a design fault with tards who clean their laser with toothpaste and burn disks on an old broken burner because mu lowest speed possible maymay.

>>6041007
I'd rather plunge the shit out of my ass... with a rake.

saturn and pc engine were much more mythical in my mind since they were a phenomenon mostly exclusive to japan (turbografx was a pathetic joke)

>I wonder what the fuzz is about, I'll play a quick few minutes to find out
>40 hours later

Dreamcast ticks a lot of boxes. It's 480p compatible, it has online support and it's consolized arcade hardware so the Sega arcade titles on it run perfectly. A lot of people will play the "everything good has been ported" but you can feel the native flavor on DC versions. It really does hit a sweet spot before video game consoles were just PCs with hardware DRM.

>>6041271
>everything good has been ported
Badly, in most cases.

>>6040931
How is it sad? Dreamcast looks incredible on PC CRTs, and that stick is great too, this is like having an arcade cabinet without needing to have one.

>>6040907
Where do I get Dreamcast arcade stick in decent price? It's expensive as fuck on ebay.

>>6042154
Nowhere, I already checked. eBay is your best bet. Maybe at the Flea market (where no one thinks of looking now a days). They aren't that pricey anyway, I got mine for $47 off eBay.

>>6040907
Why haven't you bought one already if they interest you so much?

>>6042154
Just go to viewing this link requires a 4chan GOLD account and register.

Its loud and needs a ton of mods to really be usable. If you can't at least get GDEMU and a fan replacement, then its going to suck badly. I can't even use a GDEMU since my dreamcast has a VA0 motherboard so im stuck with the GD-ROM noises. The fan is also extremely loud, I can only bare it for a few minutes until I have to turn it off and put it away. Most of the games for dreamcast though have upgraded ports on other systems, you don't really need one unless you are a collector.

>>6043156

>>6040931
It's better than all the shit setups I see with ten fucking other consoles and toys all over the place. Concise setups like this one show me a person that truly loves and respects their console and doesn't just collect like a faggot.

>>6043163
Yea its so great to hear the noise of the fan constantly blasting out the exhaust and the massive grinding noises everytime the disc is seeking, theres also a loud BEEEEP everytime you turn on the VMU without batteries... all this torture to play dc games which has readily available ports..

>>6043342
Just lube up your gears and screw drive in the disc reader. Then it will sound like a well lubed fax machine.

>>6043346
And do the fan mod

>>6043342
That shit is charming to normal people

>>6043346
>>6043348
Or, you know - just put it in an entertainment center with a door and keep it closed if the sound is that fucking distracting to you.

I'm not even kidding when I say there's some serious spectrum disorder with these people who can't stand anything mechanical or analog because they make sounds during operation. I couldn't live in some dead tomb. That eerie silence when there's a power outage actually gives me the creeps.

>>6043385
>That eerie silence when there's a power outage actually gives me the creeps.

Weird flex but okay.

>>6043397
At least my clocks still tick. I've been getting into mechanical clocks recently.

The Flycast SEGA Dreamcast emulator.
https://www.retroarch.com/
https://docs.libretro.com/library/flycast/
Full Redump collection:
https://archive.org/details/RedumpSegaDreamcast20160613

>>6043402
I have nothing against you nor do I mind game console fans or noises, but I lean the other way entirely in the sense that I adore dead silence. I sometimes wear my gun range noise protection when I read even if the room is quiet already.

>>6043420
I just do that in the shitter. Or in my truck, although the light is much better in the can. I'll tell you one surprisingly effective experience I had not that many years ago - I was waiting in my truck for this girl to sneak out and I was playing Hellnight on my PSP so I thought "why not plug it into the stereo since I have this patch cable right here". I never did and still don't especially like those relentless pursuit kinds of horror games but I had only recently discovered that game at that point and was giving it a try. Sitting there in the silence and the dark with the sound effects surrounding me like that, when she finally opened up the door I about pissed myself.

>>6043156
Do you also have a delayed response to your sperg reaction to sound? When I was in grade school there was this downie who was overly sensitive to noise like you are. But it took him at about half a second to react. People would come up behind him and clap their hands. He'd just sit there for a bit and then violently sperg out. He'd jump up, wave his arms around ans sequel like a pig. Do you ever do that?

>>6040907
A lot of varied games in all kinds of genres with at that time new unique takes/spin on gameplay presented with some of the best technological visuals of the day. Rhythm games, fighting games, puzzle games, light gun games, there was a lot to have fun with. Great times with friends in 4-player games, fierce competition is some great fighting games, showing off the best in VGA, meeting and communicating to new friends online in PSO, and a great flow of quality games month to month. Despite being quite fast with controller typing with the OSD, my friends all chipped in to getting me a keyboard for PSO, which woks great in Typing of the Dead and FPS games with the mouse. The system does have an abundance of arcade games, which may not suit the taste of meny on this board, but I am very happy to have had the experience with the Dreamcast in its day.

The system emulates well, and a lot of its games are fun and worth playing in my opinion, contrary to what most on /vr/ thinks.

>>6045568
girly games system

>>6040907
You've got to have in mind the Dreamcast is on the same category as the NeoGeo, both being consoles that had the exact same board as the arcade board of the time, Dreamcast being the Naomi board.
So yeah, if you're into fighting games and shmups, the console will be as amazing as it gets. Try Mars Matrix on the Dreamcast.

>>6045612
AES and MVS are literally identical but Naomi actually has more memory, a faster GPU and higher storage capacity for games. I was hoping that with GDEmu we would see some Naomi games running native on DC but so far it hasn't happened.

>>6043342
>Yea its so great to hear the noise of the fan constantly blasting out the exhaust and the massive grinding noises everytime the disc is seeking, theres also a loud BEEEEP everytime you turn on the VMU without batteries... all this torture to play dc games which has readily available ports..
Imagine considering some light noise coming from the console to be torture
Just throw a blanket over it if it bothers you so much

>>6045716
I only have experience with dead or alive 2 but the arcade version looks significantly more impressive then the Dreamcast port. I think it even looks and runs better then doa ultimate in the Xbox

>>6045568
What's the story on those Love Hina games, are they VNs? I loved the series back in the day and still have a ton of the translated volumes.

>>6045716
>AES and MVS are literally identical
>there are literally more than a dozen types of MVS boards, many of which are substantially different from each other and all are different from the AES
>carts are literally different and literally contain two different versions of the game
>shitposter is literally retarded

It's been considerably blown up by memes over the years but I like it. I actually dont like alot of the big ticket games like Shenmue or Sonic Adventure. I like the "bad" games like Zombie Revenge or D2.

>>6043342
>Yea its so great to hear the noise of the fan constantly blasting out the exhaust and the massive grinding noises everytime the disc is seeking, theres also a loud BEEEEP everytime you turn on the VMU without batteries

Soul, unironically.

Sega made sure to have the battery warning beep and drive sounds in the 3DS theme to preserve the soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNh_phH91DI

>>6040929
Lasers can be replaced, gdemu is also a thing

>>6045716
>I was hoping that with GDEmu we would see some Naomi games running native on DC but so far it hasn't happened.
for starters naomi has more ram of all kinds than dc, and I guess the games need that.
no idea how a dc would be able to run the games properly.

>>6041276
>and that stick is great too,

Said literally no one who knows about sticks

>>6046786
Except it's great. You must play fighting games.

Does playing burned games ruin your console? Has anyone figured out how to format to GD-rom yet?

>>6047961
What do you mean format to gdrom? We have to run .cdi images because Dreamcast discs are 1gb and normal cds are 700mb. If someone was making gdrom discs and we had a burner we could make gdrom copies.

>>6045589
I actually want a Loopy, but they are very expensive for me to get one with working ink catridges.


>>6045770
Sega was in very bad shape financially, and Isao gave his life's fortune to keep Sega afloat. Sega used that money on two big gambles: Sakura Taisen 3 and Shenmue. The Love Hina games are VNs with a randomizer wheel Sega did on the side due to their earlier sucessful gamble with Evangleion helping them market the Saturn so well. VNs are cheaper to make than their high profile projects, and may catch a bit of sales. Isao died broke. Sakura Taisen and Shenmue are gaming and financial dead ends.

Imagine a parent giving all their wealth to a child, who in turn uses almost all of it on the Powerball and Mega Millions lottery. Spending the remainder for food for the remaining week and a gun. The lotteries did not hit, and the child watched their parent die from complications due to homelessness. All that is left is for the kid to put the gun to their mouth, that is Love Hina for the Dreamcast. Fortunately Sega was too dumb to buy ammo.

>>6049048
>Sakura Taisen 3
What do you mean? Development cost aren't anywhere near close to Shenmues and pretty sure they got their money back from it.Sakura Wars 1&2 already sold great why do you call it "a gamble"?

>>6043170
This

>>6049048
Jesus fucking christ

>>6049073
Sakura Taisen 1+2 did very well in Japan on the Saturn. Sega ported the PC versions of 1+2 to the Dreamcast to bide time for their huge investment into 3's development. I remember so many articleson the intensive development of 3, as it was intended to be a Dreamcast killer app. They redesigned the tactical combat away from pre-rendered sprites to polygons, they were one of the firsts to do away with the grid based system to a combo based spherical ranged movement/attack system, featuring all new character portraits and voice talent. Sakura Taisen 3 was a huge undertaking costing Sega so much that it was a shame it was a failure. The game was so bad, they had to rush out 4 onto the Dreamcast, down to just 3 chapters from the usual 10-12 chapters, into a visual novel for all the characters to say farewell, just to recoop some of the development costs. It was a monumentous failure by Sega. Sure it seemed like a decent gamble to try to innovate on what seemed to be a success, but making bad games caught up to Sega.


>>6049973
This is the timeline we are in.

DC is cheap as fuck to get into so go for it, I got one with 30 games (ok, half of them were burned, but still), a wheel, dc keyboard, 2 controllers with VMUs and a SCART cable for 30 bongdollars, granted that was back in 2008 though.

>>6040907
that setup is comfy as fuck

>>6049048
Being in the verge of bankruptcy and using the last money you have to do something like Shenmue seems to me the most badass way to end.

>>6043170
>>OMG this so much

>>6040907
t. this setup is the saddest thing I have seen on here.

>>6051310
Dude prolly bangs his own mom in the shower.

>>6040907
>"trying to get into"
your like.. literally 20 years late man. in between all that time you literally never played the arcade originals of cvs2 mvc2 etc? crazy taxi? you name it.. and its not even just the arcade and fighting games that were great but like jesus this post is depressing. do people really go most of their youth and early/mid adulthood with the mindset of "NAH IM A NINTENDO GUY AND THAT'LL NEVER CHANGE FAGGOT. NINTENDO FOR LIFE. :^) " ?

bottom line just buy the fuckin dreamcast. i have two lying around and would be playing a custom mvc2 mix if i had a CRT still.

>>6045568
oh boy, its the faggot with terrible hand writing.

What's that Dreamcast porn game where you control the camera around a catgirl crawling around on the floor? I thought it was like a subgame for dangerous toys but apparently not. Might have been for Saturn even.

>>6049048
Nice inferior ports hoarder
>I actually want a Loopy
Figures.
>>6051036
Are you being sarcastic?

>>6041217
Hot

>>6052473
>Are you being sarcastic?
No, it really is comfy to focus on one system like that. A CRT monitor is the best possible output and then the official arcade stick and minimalist setup...very cool and japanese

>>6043342
onions

>>6040931
>Good god, that is the saddest setup I have ever seen.
Totally agree. Where are the Funkopop dolls? Where are the anime girl figurines? Where are the half-naked anime girl figurines? Where are the 12 year-old half-naked anime girl figurines? And I'm not seeing a PVM or even a consumer Trinitron anywhere in this photo.

>>6041237
I had Evolution Worlds on the Gamecube so I might come back and play Evolution 1&2 on Dreamcast.