/vr/ - Retro Games

I use a wired XB360 controller

I don't feel I need anything else and every modern purpose-built 'retro controller' I've seen looks like cheap crap

Dualshock 4 is solid (usable D-Pad and buttons for retro titles, as well as analog for PS1/N64, and dare I say the sixth gen). I hear the Xbone's D-Pad is improved compared to the X360's travesty but I don't know. I guess that leaves the Switch pro controller which I seems to use and Xbox-like design with a decent D-pad. Not really much to discuss tb́h (regarding last-gen controllers, new stock pretty much disappears so I wouldn't bother).

Dualshock 4 is solid (usable D-Pad and buttons for retro titles, as well as analog for PS1/N64, and dare I say the sixth gen). I hear the Xbone's D-Pad is improved compared to the X360's travesty but I don't know. I guess that leaves the Switch pro controller which seems to use an Xbox-like design with a decent D-pad. Not really much to discuss tb́h (regarding last-gen controllers, new stock pretty much disappears so I wouldn't bother).

Hori Fighting Commander

If you don't need analogue sticks get get a Buffalo USB pad. One of the very few retro pads with decent build quality.

Say maybe this is a good thread for this: anyone got a recommendation for Famicom controllers that are good for diagonals?
I only have one game that needs quick, precise diagonal movement (Jackal), but this built-in Famicom pad is giving me trouble with them.
A NES controller through a NES-to-Faimcom adapter cable could be OK too.

>>6031478
I know a lot of people give the 360 controller flack but I've never had an issue using one, D-pad or otherwise.

>>6031461
PS4, no doubt. Works natively with everything I've tried it on and comfortable AF and durable.

>>6031489
??? just use a NES controller then, theyre the best ones.

>>6031518
Are those fine for precise diagonals? It's been so long since I used one I don't remember.
Was pondering a NES Advantage.

>>6031493
It's kinda mushy without the pringles mod and too bulky. Playstation controllers make more sense for Nintendo consoles because they're small/light enough to handle them the same way (middle finger extended instead of curled)

>>6031461
Wii U Pro controller + Mayflash adapter. Haven't found anything close, including those fuck-awful 8bitdo controllers. Good dpad + buttons, long battery life, Xinput device stays connected even when it's off so no drop-out issues.

>>6031461
>oh yeah, I went where every underage shitposter goes

>>6031716
>playing on CRT, futzing with a bunch of cords, consoles, and carts when a well configured emulator, LCD, and wireless controller can run old games with a frame or two extra latency tops on top of being able to do everything else a modern computer can do with non-eye cancer resolution.
If your autism shelf makes you happy, anon.

>>6031493
It's objectively bad, but it's easy to use and not a showstopper. Just better options for Xinput anymore. Namely adapters that can take better console controllers and throw them to Xinput.

>>6031493
I'm certain the later controllers have better d-pads. Still not great, but plenty usable.

>>6031461
dualshock 4

>>6031461
>Xbox elite gen 2
It's insanely expensive tho

>>6031461
8bitdo controllers I would use for any sidescrollers or retro up down style games. Everything else I may just use a DS4 controller.

>>6031484
They have to be recapped to avoid constant phantom inputs.
Get a HORI Fight Commander instead.
Better build quality. Same price. More buttons.

I like to use different ones for different systems

>>6031789
Huh, didn't know about that. Guess I got lucky with mine.

Hori Pokken Controller

>>6031461
Anyone plays with pic related? How good/comfy it's the D-pad for retro games (platformers)?

I bought a PS1->USB converter from Radio Shack about 25 years ago and I've yet to see a reason to use anything else. I even used programs to make it xinput compatible for newer games.

I bought a PS1->USB converter from Radio Shack about 15 years ago and I've yet to see a reason to use anything else. I even used programs to make it xinput compatible for newer games.

>>6031728
>im userage
>im poor
>im seething
im keking

>>6032107
>How good/comfy it's the D-pad for retro games (platformers)?
it's borderline unusable for platformers.
not only is it in an uncomfortable location, it's a very clicky style of dpad that was obviously instended for menus and quick-select slots in modern games.

Despite being in a cross shape is feels little better than the 360 dpad, only use it if you absolutely have to, even using the analog stick mapped to the dpad might be a better option.

How is pic related? Idk about you guys, but it feels super comfortable in my hands.

>>6032107
it's clicky but it's easy to get used to. placement is fine for me

>>6032293
Ergonomically excellent, but like the xbox one controller the dpad is no good for 2D platformers.

Also you get some wonky diagonals, so I couldn't even use it for Tetris.

>>6032107
I've been using one for a few years now. They're fine. The shoulder buttons are a weak point though.

>>6032298
dpad of Xbox one controller is subjective. I use it with no problems but I like the snes pad the most

>>6032107
I find consistently holding A and B down to be weirdly difficult, at least compared to every controller I've used prior, but perhaps I'm a thumblet. As someone else said the d-pad is also clicky, but at least a click means it's activated so you never have to guess how much pressure is needed.

>>6032142
>so seething he can't call me underage properly
>poor
Nah, I have an OLED TV with variable refresh and low latency. You couldn't give me enough money to use a literally reeing old CRT, make a fire hazard from all the old systems I'd want to use, and trip over a bunch of controller cords instead over this TV, a singular Wii U Pro controller, and Retroarch the way I have it set up.

>>6031728
>not emulating on a crt
lol

>>6032293
Downgrade from U Pro across the board. Worse (but not unusable) d-pad, no remaining battery indication on the controller itself (can only be seen on an actual Switch console), and the battery sucks on top of that. On the other hand it's worth having if you have a Switch, and in 3DS and Wii U emulators on PC you'll have gyro support.

>>6032461
I've been there, man. I've been there. I did it in the past. The shitty resolution for anything but the emulators themselves sucks on consumer TVs, and proper VGA and PVMs are too small.

>>6032468
I mean specifically just keeping a small CRT on your desk exclusively for emulation, and having a nice LCD multi-monitor setup for everything else.

>>6032476
Nice, and definitely a viable option, just doesn't suit my use case for having a comfy modern + retro living room setup though. The royale and ntsc-320px filters will also replicate le Sonic waterfalls on an LCD, though. It's not quite as solid looking as RF/RCA, and I prefer Royale's PVM-esque preset, but it's possible.

>>6032481
have you tried increasing the shadowmask size settings in royale and going full crt meme on your 4k oled tv?

>>6031461
If we exclude any new controllers that try to ape or directly rip off the retro controllers I'm gonna go with switch pro. Immensely comfortable for long hour sessions and face buttons are very good, large surfaces that don't poke your thumb with each press and require little exertion without being mushy. Speaking of the d-pad doesn't actually have any real problems to it, turns out all the talks about it being mushy or innacurate inputs was for the 8bitdo switch controllers.

retrobit saturn controller

>>6032453
>make a fire hazard
>trip over a bunch of controller cords

>>6032489
Naw, I should mess around with it more, but the TV is best at 1440p in general because HDMI 2.1 is a complete non-starter and you can't have 120hz 4K til Jewvidia and AYYMD make a card that adopts this now 2 year old standard. 60hz limit means no variable refresh on the systems and arcade games that go above it a bit, but not the worst to just vsync those I guess.

>>6032529
The center of the controller looks racist

>>6031461
you cant beat the xbox one controller, everything else is complete garbage.

8bitdo sn30

>>6032563
Dude, fuck that. Don't. The d-pads are awful and the one I had just up and died on me after being charged overnight. Meme trash.

>>6032563
Dogshit-tier at best. SNES Classic controller with the raphnet usb adapter crushes it.

>>6032556
That's Mr Popo you're talking to, buddy

>>6031716
>I went where every underage shitposter goes
The bathroom?

>>6032107
I used to, but the dpad on mine got worn out and it barely works.

>>6031461

>>6031461
Hori fighting commander. 6 face buttons, great for megadrive and saturn, 4 shoulder buttons like on psx, turbo buttons and adjustable dpad that can emulate left and right stick, with a nice, long cable and solid build quality.

>>6032624
Most of /vr/ is still in diapers

>>6032658
>father is god real?
>son only the dark lord could have made something as grotesque as you so he must be

how has no one mentioned dualshocks yet? they're structured pretty much the same way as a snes controller but with two sticks at the bottom and dualshock 4s just werk, at least on android

>>6032913
>second post in the thread literally mentions dualshock

>>6032802
>no analog
>no rumble
>ps1
mega yikes

>>6032453
>playing retro on a TV with poor uniformity
enjoy your dirty screen effect. Hope you haven't noticed it yet. And no, it doesn't matter how much you spend on a set

>>6033014
>tfw p50st60 gorgeous plasma
>no dirty screen
>beautiful vibrant colors
>god-tier blacks
>horrible input lag
It hurts.

>>6033028
I thought plasmas had good response times for games? We talking sub 50ms or something over that?

>>6033049
600hz refresh rate, but what feels like at least +5 frames of input lag. Feels really, really bad compared to my ultrasharp, but looks so much better.

>>6033061
I completely forgot about their sky high refresh rates it's been so long since I've owned one. Too bad they never incorporated some kind of variable rates. I suppose they would've eventually if it were a dominate technology. I miss my old one

>>6032529
any feedback on it?
Will we have an original jp colors version?

>>6031478
Same. For platformers it is especially good

>>6031493
D-pad isn't very good and buttons feel absolutely terrible to mash.

>>6031493
It's the worst dpad I've ever used.

>>6032107
I think it feels really good for both classic and modern games but it kinda depends on what kind of games you want to play with it. I prefer an N64 controller for N64 games because it just doesn't feel right with dual stick controllers and with NES games or Gameboy ones I'd rather not have too many buttons to distract me.
Personal nitpicks aside it's still really neat and I'd recommend it as a controller in general.

>>6031461
I use my DualShock 3™ and I like it very much. It's a left-over from when I sold my PlayStation 3™, but I'm so used to the official Sony PlayStation™ DualShock™ that I wouldn't want it any other way.

>>6031461
I used a ps1 controller with usb adapter for years. It worked perfectly + these controller have an amaaing build quality. Recently switched to a hori ps4 pad controller and while it's amazing for fighting games I still prefer my ps1 controller for vr games. Saturn controller + usb adapter is also a good option. Regardless, always buy the real controllers and a usb adapter, don't buy usb knockoff controllers the build quality is trash

>>6032563
I have one and I literally only use it for my Android DS and GBA emulation. I would never use it for anything other than that.
It's compact and it connects to my android easily.

>>6032293
D-pad is really mediocre

>>6032293
I like the heft, it feels sturdy and the buttons are decent. The D-Pad is meh. I think the Wii U pro controller is still better, even if just marginally.

>>6031789
You are lying, fuck you

>>6031484
I second this. I have 2 buffalos I have been using for years. awesome controllers for retro.

>>6033014
Looks pretty good to me, and runs all my stupid games old and new with low latency, great image quality, and no tismo clutter. Stay poor.

>>6037114
The battery and how it will go with no warning is the real killer with Switch Pro compared to U.

I'M GONNA DO IT!

I just saw a YouTube video of some guy using a Steam Controller to play Overload (2018), and now I'm gonna buy one and try it on Descent (MS-DOS/PlayStation 1995).

>>6038369
They just discontinued those so you might want to hurry.

at home I use xbox one wireless pad mostly for ps2 and it's great but for portable use I got myself a chink pad saitake 7007x and it's okay considering the limitations, the analogs are nowhere near as good as the xbox pad but it's compact and transforms phone into decent emulation device and it's convenient to use and carry around unlike xbox pad, for playing on the go it's a good meme

>>6031461
8bitdo pro/+ is fine, as it is a sort of weirdo franken-controller

>>6038369
>>6038374
Thanks for the heads-up. Five dollars is about how much I wanted to pay to try one of those.

>>6038835
(Plus shipping and handling.)

>>6038839
True, comes out to 13.

>>6038369
Can anyone report in on the quality and feasibility?
probably not good for some genres, but probably better for others?

>>6038343
y u mad bro?
iBuffalo is shit. The phantom inputs are real.
HORI is solid and cheap.

Pokken controller is stupidly comfortable, and is perfect for anything that doesn't need triggers or analogue sticks. I use mine all the time for SNES/GEN/GBA/Arcade games, and any modern PC games that allow it. The grip is big enough to fill your hand, dpad is really nice, and you can't see on this pic but the shoulder buttons are chunky and responsive.

>>6039847

>>6032107
just got one. would not recommend. it does the thing where if you lean the up button too far to the right it clicks the right button. running in games like resident evil means always doing a balancing act. controls should feel natural and not be something you’re always cognizant of. DS4 would probably be better for you.

>>6039847
So WTF kind of drivers do you use? W10 here and this thing is being a bitch.

>>6038795
It really is not. Bluetooth on it is flaky as fuck, but that's just about every bluetooth connected controller, tbf. Shitty build quality and d-pads on every one I've used, and mine died randomly to boot.

>>6039992
>W10
I see your problem, kid.

>>6032293
D-pad is too close to the left stick, and it's too mushy for quick tapping

>>6040934
linux has trash compatibility are you retarded

>>6041423
> i can't into linux
> i need w10 bc muh gaymes

>>6031461
I buy all the original controllers for Gen 6+ emulation + dongles. Gamecube controller were stupid expensive. I own hardware for everything pre-Gen 6 and handhelds. Playing shit like N64 with a DS3/4 controller is just disgusting.

Is it worth it to get a raphnet adapter to use the wii classic controller in the gamecube port instead of on the wiimote for lag purposes? Will it be a significant improvement with the wii emulators available (not vc)

An actual SNES controller with a Mayflash adapter, or a DS4 (with DS4Windows if you want to use bluetooth). The D-pad on my best SNES controller is better than the DS4 since the DS4 will interpret a hard press on the left or right D-pad buttons as diagonal downwards if I'm not careful, but the DS4 has much better click to the buttons. Might by some new rubber membranes for my SNES controllers from NESrepairsshop.com, but I'm not sure where my nintendo bits are. I certainly haven't found a perfect controller, but the versatility of the DS4 makes it the best general option. Would literally be perfect if the D-pad were just a little better and it wasn't made for tiny japanese hands.

>>6043650
>Might by
*buy

>>6031526
Yes. Buy a shit one and then replace the pads: https://www.nesrepairsshop.com/Catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_74&products_id=1025

No idea where to get NES-to-Famicom adapters nor how expensive they are, though.

>>6031530
How's the dpad compared to a DS4?

>>6031797
>3rd party N64 controller
Bet that thing handles like steamy diarrhea.

>>6045247
Thanks anon I'll look into the pad replacement thing

>>6031461
I use a XB360 controller for most things, but for emulating gamecube (and to some degree, Wii) i use a gamecube controller with the usb adapter that came with smash 4.
for NES/SNES/GBA/DS emulation I have a raphnet adapter to use with a super famicom controller. despite the 3ft cable, the SFC controller feels way better to use than my SNES controller.

>>6032107
I just got one. I like the dpad better than the 360s but not as much as a ps4. The shoulder buttons feel hard to reach for me. Its like I'm having to stretch my fingers up to them. This could just be me having gimped up hands or something though.

I mainly got it because its the only one that consistently works with my chromebook and works well with android steam link.

Overall, I am not displeased. I got it on sale for 40$ too.

I wanted to try a steam controller but they sold out before I could purchase one.

>>6031478
This, it's the best for old shooters, 3D adventure games and N64 emulation while remaining serviceable for 2D platformers and fighters. Every other controller is great at one thing and shit at another but the 360 is decent at everything.

>>6047467
>The shoulder buttons feel hard to reach for me. Its like I'm having to stretch my fingers up to them
It's designed with that stupid hinge because it wants you to loop your index finger over the button while you actuate the triggers. To hit the shoulder buttons, you sort of roll your fingers inward.

Like everything else with that shit controller, it's not comfy.

>>6032913
>and dualshock 4s just don't werk on pc because microsoft keeps meddling with it's drivers
fixed, unlike the ds4 drivers

>>6031461
I use DS3 and it has been my go-to controller for at least 7 years.

thought about getting a DS4 until I saw that fucking (((""""""share""""""))) button. so not anymore.

prompted to try out an XBone controller though. they seem decent.

>>6032293
Nintendo crap is absolute garbage especially nowadays.

>>6041423
tbf you can get an $80-$100 7/xp notebook that'll run everything up to PS2 without trouble and keep your win10 cancer for the modern games that require you download planned obsolecence cancer on your computer.

>>6047525
Works on my machine with win10. Maybe there's something wrong with your setup.

Why do you guys hate the 360 pad so much? It's the only one I can do 720s with and the only thing that sometimes bothers me about it is that it's slippery after a couple tense games.

>>6031530
bros, I need a second opinion because of the Wii U Pro controller. On amazon they got a 3rd party alternative of that one by CooleedTEK that looks exactly the same and it's like 30 bucks only. It's an amazon's choice product and people say it's great. But I obviously trust /vr/'s judgment more than normie consumers. So should I risk it or buy a used original Wii U Pro?

>>6047572
>I trust the judgment of people who think Ninja Gaiden is hard and linux isn't a meme.

This. Works perfect for all the best games and genres. If its too "awkward" for your favorite games, then I'm afraid you just don't have good taste.

>>6047572
>On amazon they got a 3rd party alternative of that one by CooleedTEK that looks exactly the same
Just because it looks the same doesn't mean any of the moving parts are going to feel or behave remotely similar. Just assume it's completely different unless you get feedback from someone here who has one.

Maybe I'm weird but I just use arcade stick and buttons for everything, even home consoles. Its just way more comfortable to me, and its easy to reach all the buttons without contorting your fingers to hit shoulder buttons or blistering your thumbs on a pad.

I dont play dual analog games so thats no problem. Hint: most PSX games dont require dual analog because they work with the original psx controller which only had a dpad, so with an arcade stick youre set for all retro consoles except n64, which lets face it n64 games dont work on any generic gamepads very well, so youd need to get a special n64 pad anyways.

>>6039847
No this is a meme. I tried this controller, and wanted to like it but the plastic is really hard and makes my thumbs hurt really bad after a couple hours. Also something is fucked with the handle width, because it really makes that tendon in between my thumb and forefinger start hurting too.

>>6047789
Forgot pic

>>6047810
Is this the one that has the C button getting stuck if you press it hard too close to the right edge?

>>6047806
You do take 5-10 minute breaks for every 45 minutes of video games in order to rest your eyes and hands, don't you anon?

>>6047817
No that was the rev 1 version, rev 2 fixes all those issues.

>>6047831
rev2 being the one being compatible with switch, right?

>>6048962
Yeah

I use a ps2 one with an usb cable (or the PS2 straight for emulating GB, NES and MD)

Works great so far