/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[11-13] Andy Olivera steps down from maintaining DSDA, new site available
http://doomedsda.us/news.html
https://dsdarchive.com/

[11-12] ZMovement 3.0 released earlier this month
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095

[11-12] Triune Discovery, an upcoming map pack for a Jump Boots mod
https://youtu.be/d-oDa_pAuSk

[11-12] D4T 2.5 slated for a November 16th release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122klRWFl5A

[11-14] Death Wish for Blood updated to 1.6.8
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[11-6] DBP17 RC2 released, an Aliens-themed mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110070-dbp17-alone/

[11-4] MORTIS, a gameplay mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66279

[11-4] BlooM, a Doom/Blood crossover
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66261

[11-4] GMOTA 1.3 scheduled for the 15th this month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIACyDExUj8&feature=youtu.be

[11-2] Kinsie releases a WIP of 'Deathmatch Simulator'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66264&sid=3421fd12811cbd9c13bc2ff851980cae

[10-31] Quake Halloween Jam 2 out now
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61786

[10-31] Doom 4 Vanilla v2.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4bU3wWAXI

[10-29] Guncaster Vindicated updated to 3.2.0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8gPMaGc7E

[10-29] Guncaster updates to 3.5.7
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&sid=69353dbf78756b18deee151bc797cd60

[10-28] New Blood addon 'Fleshed Out'
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-fleshed-out/downloads/fleshed-out-1-0

[10-25] jcr shamelessly self-promotes his Q1 map curation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqp_DyDgxjw

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

you think ID or whatever should officially license Arcane Dimensions? Maybe for the 25th anniversary?

Cus every fan pack, community speed map, seasonal level pack is using it as a base now. So its basically unofficially the new base anyway.

>>6010987
>wanting to give more power to a corporation

>>6010916
>New D4T update seemingly turns Reaper into a BFG weapon
Damn, I loved it's Shotgun role version. Wonder what they're doing to make it a BFG styled weapon.

>>6010998
I just want it to be canon. Its amazing and all the mappers that make new content with it as a base deserve credit

>>6010915
where and how to play blood

>>6010987
No, I don't think they should.

Let it be its own thing.

>>6010915
I liked Quake 2 and I still do over 1.
Don't @ me. I know I'm wrong but I can't help it.
My favorite thing was the bug that registers some edges of slopes as falls. Caught me off guard when I was coasting gently over a slope and then heard some bones crack.

>>6010915
>[10-25] jcr shamelessly self-promotes his Q1 map curation
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqp_DyDgxjw

Holly shit those maps are beautiful. Specially that in 05:44 min. They look more visually pleasing than many, many of the so called AAA games these days, IMHO.

EN MARANAX DOMUS CRUNATOS

>>6011065

>>6011006
>caring about canonicity in a oldschool FPS

Still mind blowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsQLJu5nNKQ

>>6011008
frens pwese hewp

I love being an elder god that allows an object that any intruder can use to telefrag me float to around my domain

>>6011080
GEROSHAY BIBOX MALAX

>>6011082
shub never knew about telefragging

I love being an elder god that allows an object that any intruder can use to telefrag me float freely around my domain

>>6011083

>>6010915
>>6011008
>>6011080
it's right in the op, man
>Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
>https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
>https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

>>6011006
Why yes, AD is an amazing tool to factor out trendwhores out of the picture. Like, if you have even one AD map, you can go to hell for all I care, no exceptions. This - and speedmaps, except I could maybe be okay with a person having made like maybe 2 speedmaps before realizing "Dude, the fuck am I doing?" AD? No, anyone who ever mapped for AD simply deserves big fat ZERO benefit of my doubt.

What’s the alt fire for Weapons of Saturn’s Chaingun do?

>>6011090
the fuck? Why? More monsters, more texture styles, better scripting with breakable brushes and pushable moveable stuff, actual bosses to fight.

Whats your problem with it lol

>>6011008
on a screen
with I/O device

>>6011098
I'll just point you to a certain game which I strongly advise you to play even if you are not a fan of the genre (if you were, you would've probably long since played it): Myst 3: Exile.

>>6011106
nah I just played PYST

https://youtu.be/PlcpDAhF-NM

>>6010915
>rocketnade.webm
Nice meme, but how do you pull off that portal jump from Mega to YA consistently

>>6011109
I highly doubt you did. And, anyway, Exile was made by Journeyman Project series' developers, not PYST's.

>>6011090
Why u mad tho

>>6011109
I remember PYST. What an awful fucking game.

>>6011119
I'm not even that anon but your hot takes amuse me even if I don't have a smegging clue the fuck your major malfunction is

>>6011114
I hate the clickbait titles, but his content is good.

>>6011123
My hot take is that sock's Quake and AD maps treat Quake tropes in a way similar to how Exile treated Riven's tropes - similar looking setups, radically different resolutions - except Exile invented its resolutions, while sock's maps blatantly copy-paste entry-level modern mainstream tropes. And my point is, if I wanted to play, say, Bioshock - why would I ever want to play Bioshock - I would've played Bioshock, not its low-poly demake in Quake engine. And if I wanted to replay aforementioned Myst 3: Exile, I would've done just that, enjoying radically more smart setups than anything anywhere in AD, SimonOC's or not, as well as incomparably more memorable and evocative visual designs to boot.

>>6011126
This is schizophrenia in text form

>>6011121
Because there is a word for what AD, in what it differs from Quake, does, and this word is "profanation". AD boasts nostalghia, and is packed with Quake references - until you realize ALL those references, at least, until SimonOC's maps are concerned, consistently omit crucial gameplay-related nuances of the original setups (thus systematically misrepresenting them), making up for what's missing with superficial visual clutter without any rhyme or reason at worst, Exile-derivative at best, and shit copypasted from modern games (again, in simplified form).

>>6011126
now I get the dry socks joke from ad_swampy

>>6011130
It is none of my problem your reading comprehension appears to be severely lacking.

>>6011134
AD is fine, good even, as a map pack. I'd play more of it if it gave the option to keep weapons between maps.
it's Quake 1.5 that turns my stomach.

>>6011134
I'm not even talking about AD's maps. More the actual mod and content that's used for new maps. The new monsters and weapons changes and shit

>>6011134
In other words, my take is that everything Quake-related the main author of AD does, systematically and deliberately misrepresents Quake as being significantly dumber and more simplistic than it actually was, and posing it as if it is you who had nostalghia googles all along. The worst thing is, it seems to be working, aforementioned "supplanting as a default mod base", even if severely exaggerrated, being point in case.

This music is so damn good. I wish nuDoom had this instead of whatever sludge industrial shit we got.

https://youtu.be/q657rEkgfKs

>>6011142
there's a running joke between my e-friends "such and such is an immersive sim", well even jokes aside that ain't quake baby, you can't go much simpler than that
and quake's simplicity is beautiful in itself, it's amazing how much they "nailed it" compared to earlier 3D "FPS" like Descent or even Doom which was still experimental with its bullshit RNG and nonsensical level layouts

>>6011145
>H*lsh*lt
no

>>6011141
Okay, let's talk weapons. In old Quake you had to use either explosives or Quad to gib zombies, AD gives you triple-barrel and enhanced axe, taking away that bit of resource management.

In Quake you could snipe moving targets using shotgun, due to it being hitscan, the downside being it having a spread. AD makes both shotguns projectile-based by default, eliminating any point of using shotgun over nailgun at a distance.
AD introduces, what? plasma rifle or something? which supplants lightning gun the moment you find it, without, IIRC, even an option to switch back to it - and spew-pews - surprise - projectiles as well. How would I ever exist without it.

>>6011147
If you are sock, then no, leeching off Exile does not make you any special, it is one of the most widely cited modern games ever, thanks not in the least to its amazing "organic" design - and, by the way, it's a horrible choice for a game to be demade in Quake anyway, if only because Quake can't into smooth curves and surfaces. And, last, but the most important part: your "'innovations"' suck. fucking ass.

And, man, I mean, even original Seulcher had a more monocled source of inspiration (Azrael's Tear).

>>6011157
I don't know individual mapper's names from AD I suppose I could look them up in the readme
fella what made ad_swampy and a couple others is kinda taking the piss

Are there any good Warhammer 40k wads?

>>6011119
journeyman project was awesome actually, myst was always kind of a joke

>>6011189
>look at him!
>he PYST on MYST!

>>6011192
Myst is like a daycare center for senior citizens
Journeyman Project's gameplay is god awful obviously, but it goes places

>>6010915
Shadow Warrior but on N64 and Saturn.

>>6011194
I see what you did there

>>6011054
Have you tried this singleplayer unit yet?

https://www.moddb.com/mods/sonic-mayhem

>>6011149
didn't he do part of the quake champs ost

>>6011134
>>6011142
>>6011147
Can't you just say that you hate the gameplay and that the levels, in spite of looking very good, don't play well?

>>6011212
no, I don't think he can

>>6010915
I once thought of an idea for a Doom Mod called "The Irishman". It's a full reskin for Doom, with equivalent textures to everything in the game, in order to make it flow.

>>6011204
>https://www.moddb.com/mods/sonic-mayhem
Seems good, actually. Thank you.

>>6011147
I loved descent and Quake, and i disagree with your regarding AD, it was a pleasure to play. I wouldn't want vanilla to disappear, but AD is a welcome diversification.

>>6011070
>4:44
>casually waiting for the zombie to approach the door.
>Blocks the trap with it.
OH FUCK

Doom but the RNG damage rolls are all consistent instead

>>6011087
no idea how ive missed it downloaded the other wads but missed this thanks man

I want to play deathmatch but it's dead. Tell me tales of what it was like, boomerfags.

>>6011243
What do you mean? It's already consistent - the exact same inputs will result in exact same behavior every time.
Anyway, Decino did make a big video on Doom's RNG. It's pretty interesting.

>>6011130
he is right tho u no
why having shitty modernized level design when you can have ye old thing good level design

>>6011249
that's deterministic, not consistent. consistency implies predictability, and I doubt there's a single person in the world who could tell you, say, how much damage a specific revenant missile is going to do on impact, even if it's always gonna be the same value when replaying the demo.
that anon probably means that wherever damage is randomly rolled, the average value is used instead

>>6011212
>>6011230
you misunderstand me, I think AD is breddy good
you also have the option of turning shotguns back into hitscan
if there's a minor mod that lets you keep weapons as you return to the hub, do let me know, that would make AD even better

>>6011208
speaking of dead game OSTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa-aYuBzvo

>>6011243
>>6011263
it's there to simulate critical hits, more FPS games than doom do that
and yeah you can mod doom's RNG to average out the damage but it then becomes a lot more boring to play

>>6011267
RIP UT4, you were fucked from the moment you were announced.

>>6011289
for one glorious moment in late 2016 it was the best UT game

So you can't play Quake on Quakespasm using software rendering? It's like opengl is the default.

>>6010915
doom rpg remake in gzdoom.

>>6011312

>>6011314

>>6011317

>>6011312
>>6011314
>>6011317
looks good but i hope gerardo's rpg project ends up finished first, so people give a somewhat faithfull "port" of the games first before moving to a remake

>>6011006
>I just want it to be canon.

I dont get it.

>>6010915
Aх ты пидop

>>6011220
So... Freedoom without maps?

https://youtu.be/XLpiCPvyhu0

wait a moment, what the fuck does myst have to do with quake?

>>6011358
>The Icon of Swole

>>6011358
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9552
And it may work with gameplay mods but i only tried it with TrailBlazer.

>>6011360
Visual direction, the way respective tropes are handled (Riven tropes in Exile, Quake tropes in AD).

It's not ANY Myst either, it's one specific game from the series created by Journeyman Project guys.

>>6011153
Weapon selection is down to the mapper.

>>6011140
> I'd play more of it if it gave the option to keep weapons between maps.

That would completely break 90% of maps.

Has Blood become a more popular game than Duke?

That's crazy, Duke was Doom's rival back then.

>>6011406
DNF soured duke in the public consciousness. Even people who haven't played either go "urr hurr DNF sucked", and that's as far as people think anymore.

>>6011358
>no offense man, but you're fired.

>>6011431
but I just started yesterday

>>6011431
kek

>>6011406
>>6011410
Blood 2 killed Blood too

>>6011403
yeah, so?

i wonder if new doom's night sentinel were based off quake's knights

I read on the wiki that these fuckers(who's stronger than the boss of episode1) are vulnerable to voodoo doll, but how many times do you need to use it to kill it? After dozen of tries I just switched to napalm launcher and managed to kill this thing.
I'm on lightly broiled and encountered it just right before episode#2 end for the first time.

>>6011467
yeah they take the most damage from voodoo or tesla
~40 voodoo ammo usually kills em, depending if you stab the groin or the head
voodoo alt fire usually leaves em with a big chunk of health left so don't do that

>>6010563
>the highest intelligent lifeform on the planet developing hal 9000/skynet class ai

>>6011491
is quake finally gonna recieve good bots?

>>6011485
40 piercings of voodoo doll? Damn it will really take some time considering gargoyles dodging abilities.
And It seems there are MULTIPLE of them attacking you on well done/extra crispy, that's insane.

>>6011495
if you're feeling cheesy they can't hurt you
if you're not feeling cheesy then just circlestraf and they never hit you

>>6011439
Blood 1 AND 2 have the benefit of being more obscure than Dick Kickem's success and failure.

>>6011524
This.

>>6011509
What do you mean by cheesy, crouching on certain distance or something?

>>6011534
40 voodoo ammo is not that much, and yes just crouch and they cant hit you.

>>6011534
yeah 40 ammo doesn't mean 40 stabs

>>6011538
What do you mean, can I just hold m1 button to deplete a doll fast?

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-exp/news/doom-exp-19

>>6011543
it takes more than 1 ammo per stab

>>6011571
Why?

is Brutal Half-Life any good?

>>6010915
Are there any map packs for Doom with Blood's aesthetic excluding ZBlood stuff?

>>6011573
fucked if I know, different enemies take different ammo
and different stabs also, completely RNG

>>6011593
I dont think so, but I remember Joel once playing a real cool map in his shitty contests. That was lovecraftianesque, cool mansion, cultists etc.

>>6011614
I just tested two times and I used 48 "charges" in order to kill this stone gargoyle. 4 charges per stab, I just held button and strafe, that was fairly quick.

>>6011587
I like it it. Always liked the gore in it even vanilla, its chunky, and they choose the sound effects well like id games.

>>6011623

Its such a fun weapon to use even on regular enemies, I love how the zombies turn to dust with the voodoo doll, I mean they are already dead, maybe the doll is accelerating time with curses?

>>6011294
honestly I couldn't ever really settle with the weapon redesigns, they felt too flimsy.

>>6011641
if it had taken off it would've been like quake hampions where you would buy weapon skins you liked, except more like TF2 where the proceeds go to the modders too
default looked fine to mine

>>6011243
The RNG is what makes everything a risk and more exciting though.

>>6011670
I wish I had the version he played with 15x3 levels.

What do you think?

https://youtu.be/_EPORLryYHI


-GZDoom engine
-Full mouselook
-Jumping
-HD texture pack
-HD shader pbr pack
-3D models
-Super c00l effects pack
-Plenty of bloody mods
-some super c00l hud
-Reshade
-Sweet FX

>>6011739
please don't start this shit again.

>>6011106
Of course this is the guy making such incomprehensible posts.
>>6011098
The way Quake maps work, you don't need AD to use more textures, any map can use whatever textures without having to use a mod.

>>6011739
i can't believe vasyan was behind the smash mii leak all along

>>6011739
Does anybody still think Doom Remake 4 shutdown was real?

https://twitter.com/PoemStudios/status/1050410619927715840

>>6011593
Theres an old (2000s) map called "The City Of The Damned: Apocalypse". The atmosphere / visuals are fantastic, but the gameplay is quite poor unfortunately. But worth at least giving a try.

I have a PSP and want to play some DOOM. Is PSPLegacy the only good option?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110232-the-location-of-doom-64s-story-finally-revealed/?tab=comments#comment-2045238

>>6011739
Cool. Genuinely looks like those fake videogames on shitty tv series.

>>6011436
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>6011093
fires more powerful bullets that take up more ammo

>>6011739
well the caco looks rather pleased to be in this so am I to argue

>>6011338
i think it has less to do with story and more about it being "official" to the brand
kind of like final doom and master levels

>>6011593
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106112-mayhem-2019-we-have-a-public-beta/

>>6011090
guys, we've got an edgelord in here

Just finished the first episode of Quake. I wasn't expecting a boss fight. Pretty cool. Also why the hell is the blast radius on the rocket launcher so damn massive?

>>6011848
This has been known for a long while lmao

>>6011324
Has he updated that recently?

You guys ever watch people play user maps? I'm amazed how little they look around and observe the mappers efforts.

I played the Halloween and Christmas's packs for Quake recently and then went and watched some people on YouTube play and people just zoom zoom through the maps.

I can just imagine the mapper watching back to see the feedback or if the person liked the map he took a month to make. "Oh here's that huge sprawling room that took me ages he's coming up to it now" and the dudes are just HUH HUH HUH through the place.

I always take a nice long look at all the maps and take it all in. I appreciate the work these dudes are putting into 20 year old games.

>>6011587
Its fun. Out of all the "brutal" things its the only one i tolerate. Mainly because its super detailed with shit like knocking security helmets off and what not

>>6012037
Because it's powerful. Also if you want more bossfights check out the expansions once you're done. You've got the music on, right?

>>6012160
>I'm amazed how little they look around and observe the mappers efforts.
It drives me nuts to see someone playing a map I'm familiar with, walk past the doorway they need 30 times because they're rushing through, or miss a switch, or a hint... etc... Or like you said, just plain ignore the mapping effort.
I think a lot of it is that when they're streaming they're trying to keep the downtime low and the interest high, so any point without combat or whatever might be considered "boring" to a viewer.

>>6011406
I don't think so, but I do agree that Blood awareness and appreciation has been on the rise.
I only found Blood 5 or 6 years ago, and it was crazy to me how little-known it seemed to be at the time considering how well it played.

>>6012350
>I think a lot of it is that when they're streaming they're trying to keep the downtime low and the interest high, so any point without combat or whatever might be considered "boring" to a viewer.
and paradoxically, it becomes boring because they run circles around a room doing nothing but talking
do you want to stream video games or do a podcast
if you want to do both, pre record them

>>6011306
Quakespasm is based on OpenGL. If you want software rendering, use Mark V Quake. If you want Vulkan, use vkQuake.

Whats the best way to play Doom 64 on the pc?

>>6010915

>>6012520
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Whats+the+best+way+to+play+Doom+64+on+the+pc%3F

>>6012520
Doom EX

>>6012539
Way to be a faggot

Not much process today. I spiced up the giant lava lake a bit and started the entrance to this mine shaft.

Is there a way to turn on always run on Crispy Doom or is that omitted on purpose?

The critters Punchatz drew look more threatening than any of the monsters that are actually in Doom

>>6012617
nvm found it

>>6010916
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61791

GMOTA v1.3 is out

https://combine-kegan.itch.io/gmota

Why are you using CPM duel footage for the OP? No one here plays duel, they just LARP and play singleplayer shit lmfao.

>>6011739
>shiny wood
>everything is wet and sloppy
>RS maps are basic noise
This somehow looks even worse and less effort than unity indieshit

>>6012863
nice

>>6012520
Doom 64 EX

>>6012879
I was in that 2v2 CPMA cup a while back, don't wanna talk about how that turned out

>>6012863
Very cool, loving the new character

>>6012417
I think that's because the various sourceports that exposed the game. The phenomenon will die out soon, and Blood will return to the place where it belongs: behind Duke and SW.

>>6013023
>no "love you"
What a terrible son.

>>6013023
Poor Doomguy, talking to people who died a long time ago...

>>6013241
can't put the genie back in the bottle, pathetic doukfag
the goyim know how good blood actually is now that it's left the dosbox shackles

here's a neat thing I found in a web 1.0 time capsule
http://wenchy.net/old/ssplayer.html

>>6012863
I had this weird dream where Kegan just dropped dead or disappeared without ever doing that CA update or Samsom in GMOTA

I was actually relieved when I woke up

>>6010915
If you don't read untill the end the curso don't take effect

>>6011783
lol. also no actual letter from counsel would call the company they work for "ZeniMax Media Inc" [sic]. Also John T. Dorne does not appear to be a real person and is an obvious edit of "Rhonda T. Hjort."

>B me
>use linux because kek
>want to play blood in BloodGDX
>linux port hast bug, doesn't generate config file
>wait for fix
>bug fixed
>donwload and play
>port has another unrelated bug where's there's no sound effects

Guess I'll keep waiting

>>6013460
compile the latest nblood or install wine
you linuxoids never learn

>>6013241
haha this faggot

so how do you Dark Forces
I want that supersampled as high as cycles=max lets me
and there was a way to proper mouse aim with some autohotkey script?

>>6011739
another retarded developer who strives for 'le epic realism' rather than keeping the art style consistent

>everything has a fucking exaggerated normal map

>roughness turned down on every material for 'kool shiny surface effect'

>bloom, motion blur, vignette, helmet - can't see shit nigga

>>6012863
I love the end level screen.

I've only played a few levels so far, but kicking barrels and booting enemies into space is as fun as I thought it would be.

I have a problem with SLADE, the doom editor. I have the last stable windows version. Lately, every time I open it, it runs super laggy and there's no way to do anything. It doesnt freeze, it's just lagging to hell all the time.

I tried reinstalling and no dice. Of course everything else in my pc works fine. Is this a W10 incompatibiliy with SLADE or something?

bonus:
decino's UV pistol start let's play is super comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXGzD9nI9N0&list=PLYZp53E4M0t8PqX4cVilk3NZQZx1AMeev&index=2

Lads help me remember some mid-2000s nostalgic doom wads. I'll start:
>Doom Barracks Zone
>Coopbuildm
>eXecution death match

>>6010915

>>6013634
>100gunsx (or something like that. Old skulltag mod)
>omgweaps
>That map where you fight a giant squid on a offshore oil rig. Somebody please tell me the name of this wad.
>greenwar

>>6011587
It has a lot of bugs, real shitty hit detection with the HECU and bullet sponge Houndeyes, but other then that it's a pretty satisfying mod

>>6012173
It feels less like Brutal Doom and more like Soldier of Fortune. Maybe he should have called it "Soldier of Half-Life"

>>6013520
send help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w36AFr1NwlE

>>6013369
I kinda had a slight brush with death earlier this summer, bad appendicitis, nearly burst inside me. We got it out before that though. So I'm pretty relieved I'm still breathing too.

>>6013795
I heard about that, something about how you didn't even realize that it happened first.

>>6013323
Sometimes I wonder what happened to developers like this, looks like she was active as recently as 2017.

>>6013795
Don't die you asshole.

>>6010915
doom is better than quake,


but quake 1 is the best quake.


change my mind

>>6013829
I generally agree, but Quake 3 is also extremely good. It nails character control better than almost anything else.

>>6013845
Its strange that most games around quake 1 or 2 engine feel weird but movement is always nice.

>>6010915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtwKtedUKbA
what some great christmas mods

BASED

>>6013297
>Blood faggots flooded /vr/ since their pathetic forum went down.

>>6013849
It's nice in any quake or quake-related game, but not necessarily in other contemporaries. Unreal didn't have close to the Quake feel in movement imo

>>6013982
It didn't but it was not bad.

Also plenty of jank games in quake 1 2 and even 3. Really depends on the team. I think the best quake 3 engine game to play was elite force?

Soldier of fortune 1 and 2 were fun, but oging back they are really tight and uncomfortable to play.

https://twitter.com/doomwiki/status/1195027670196801539

>>6012863
Time to play through good old Scythe 2 as Kustam, been waiting a long time to do so

GMOTA is easily one of my top three gameplay mods so it's nice to see it's still being worked on

>>6013795
I'm glad you turned out alright

I was bored.

>>6014053
Remove that cut to black at the end and it'll loop perfectly.
This is hilarious by the way.

>>6014053
>instantly knew what it was before clicking on it
I spent too much time ITT

>>6014053
Kek

>>6014058
Quad-checked to see if it loops properly now. It does. Thanks for the suggestion.
Pardon the repost, but the lack of proper loop bugged the everliving fuck out of me.

>>6013520
Find a former Lucasarts Employee who has the source code.

>>6012564
nice!

This week in stupid effort for small details: fancy 3D rotation for projectile/attack origin. Possible thanks to KeksDose's libeye library, just like the accurate cursor projection.

Instantly made the gun feel a lot more "there" in the game world imo.

I really love how Arcane Dimensions by Simon O'Callaghan became the defacto standard for quake modding.

>>6014119
Damn, that looks cool, anon.

>>6014041
that's legal? neat

>>6014126
Thanks. It will be really useful for spawning smoke clouds when normal guns fire too.

>>6013642
Very Impressive, but what exactly is this? (About the wad/mod)

Are the cultists in Blood wearing masks, or are they really that ugly?

>>6014080
Good work anon, that's a keeper

>>6011090
>>6011106
okay boomer whatever you say.

>>6014117
thank you

>>6014053
what

>>6011090
HNNNNNNGGh
Keep posting whore I' almost there
ahhhhhh

Here we fucking go again...
https://www.moddb.com/mods/trans-rights-gzdoom-mod

>>6014193
>Evil Demonic hellspawn support transgenderism

Checks out honestly.

>>6014193
>33 MB of HIRES replacements
>redefining every single texture in the Doom IWAD
>even the backgrounds have "trans rights" on them
My sides. Somebody tell whoever made this that the TEXTURES lump is a thing.

>>6014205
Look at the comments, its a troll

>>6014095
I'm sure that mythical employee keeps it next to his Blood gold master

>>6014219
Wait.

What's the method of playing Dark Forces.... It's not just some horrid DOS box port is it? There really no source port?

>>6014226
>There really no source port?
no source
no port

I feel like going through Blood again. Maybe play some Doom later.
Unrelated but does anyone has that EYE & I soundfont? Can't find a link anywhere

>>6014226
no source
DarkXL was a fan recreation that's now abandoned

I might have to emulate mac OS on a VM cause the mac port goes all the way to 640x400

>>6014226
It plays fine in DOSBox. Very configurable for the period, you can turn off vertical mouse movement and rebind basically everything.

Tim Willits' (or maybe rather "TW&TC") levels in Quake are likely primarily a parody of D.W.Bradley's Cybermage.

>>6014254
Is the PlayStation version worth playing

>>6014254
except it runs in 320x200 and you can't bind common actions to the mouse like alt fire
I tried binding page up and page down to mouse Y axis but that worked about as well as you'd expect

this baby is screaming for a "remaster", open source or no

>>6014241
>>6014286
DarkXL sourcecode is free for anyone to fix it, sadly no one wants to Fix those bugs, which is only the final levels scripts, the missing sounds and if not a BETTER UI.

https://archive.org/details/XLEngineRelease02
https://github.com/mipek/darkxl-fix/blob/master/README.md
https://github.com/Mindwerks/XLEngine/tree/master/DarkXL

now that Dark Forces 2 received some love, maybe Kaiser will get DF once he wraps up ROTT.

>>6014293
DarkXL has nothing to do with Jedi engine's source however
and the dev has been MIA for years, aw shucks oh well

>now that Dark Forces 2 received some love
???

>>6014297
Last thing he did was release the code to anyone to fix it.
there is a hotfix on the post made by a dude, but its just a bandaid.

also its Jedi knight 2 and Academy
https://www.dualshockers.com/star-wars-jedi-knight-jedi-academy-switch-ps4-online-multiplayer/

>>6014303
Fuck the people that named this series of games

Doom 3 sucks as both a survival horror game and as an action shooter.
The objectively correct way to play it is either with Overthinked Doom 3 if you wanted a horror experience, or with Perfected Doom 3 if you wanted a Doom-like.

>>6014317
Don't you wanna play some Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy?

anyone know how to set up a server? i have no idea whats going on or what im doing. i port forwarded but after that im lost, i dont know how to set up a server. i tried the sentinels playground and im completely lost. i keep on being logged in and out. this is a fucking mess and im so confused.

>>6014303
>also its Jedi knight 2 and Academy
yeah, that got sauce'd since Raven are call of duty jizzmoppers with an interesting backstory these days
also they both run on quake 3 engine and therefore are futureproofed to 2019 and counting out the box

>>6014261
The primary source of inspiration for Romero's Quake levels was, likely, STILL the fucking Prince of Persia 2: The Shadow and The Flame.

I wanna play Dark Forces but I can't
Outlaws at least supports Glide, so you can supersample via nglide
the engine's pretty advanced for its time (TekWar came out the same year and that's not the best use of Build)

>>6014339
The best guess I am capable of coming up with right now in regard to the primary source of inspiration for McGee's Quake levels is Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller. Could be something else just as well: I am not all that well acquainted with that game at all.

The impenetrable writing style here means, among other things, that I earnestly consider the author an utter moron.

>>6014261
I've heard it argued that Tim Willits ripped off Theresa Chezar (his sister), as supposedly Wind Tunnels is similar to a level she made (for a .wad with levels by both of them).

I don't actually know if this is true.

>>6014318
It pretty much fails at horror, but it's ok as an action shooter.

>>6014318
or just play system shock 2 for the 12th time

more work on the mine I guess

>>6014383
Petersen's levels - I have NO idea.

>>6014405
It's not what I was either claiming or hinting at - but oh well, as of right now, those two don't interest me anymore, so, whatever.

>>6014148
https://twitter.com/CyberUnknown_/status/1195107677657059328

>>6013829
Agreed.

>>6014407
The shotgun sucks too much for it to qualify as an ok action game

>>6014538
AAAAAAA

>>6012863
I didn't really understand or like the new guy that much when I first jumped into it, but after 3 consecutive ironman runs of stock Doom 2, I believe I'm starting to like him and figure out how he plays. He's more methodical I think. His gun has a slow reload time but it's very powerful, which encourages keeping your distance, and his staff is a good backup for oneshotting weaker enemies and deflecting projectiles while a slow door or elevator moves. His medkit provides self-sustainability, and I really enjoy that the OP potions have quirks that encourage different playstyles.

>>6014568
Glad you're liking him, he's definitely not going to be for everyone, and that's okay.
I'm probably going to adjust how his medi-tool behaves in the future, make it heal more at lower HP and less at higher HP.

Ah fuck I should have done this but

>>6010915
>>6012863

My bad

>>6014571
>>6012863
So, I heard the next hero is gonna be a cutebold
How does he gonna play?

>>6014642
retracting chain whip, throwing various alchemy flasks, and a bowgun. Big emphasis on debuffs, buffs, and AOE shit. He's also gonna carry some magic bullshit synthesizer thing that'll let him generate shell tier ammo on demand.
Because he's gonna be Sega Genesis themed I might call it the Blast Processor because I'm a fucker.

>>6014080
Why does the car enter as grayscale when it enters the scene?

>>6014561
The shotgun is terrible, but the rocket launcher, chaingun, and plasma, are decent enough.
The chainsaw is also great.

>>6012863
All three characters have the same taunt sound in Zandronum.

>>6014806
I need to fix that.

>>6014530
Wild guess: maybe possibly Bradley's Wizardry 5?

>>6014530
ancient mormon texts describing the very concept of funa s a mortal sin perhaps

>>6013520
I dropped the game because the third level was a fucking sewer maze or something and I wasn't going to deal with that shit without the ability to quicksave

I know fresh supply is a mediocre remaster but I'm a trophy fiend so it must be done

>>6014904
Awwww, to bad you didn't get to experience hitscanning splash-damaging oneshotters! As well as terminator guys ignoring your armor on levels without medkits.

>>6014948
That sounds like some serious bullshit senpai

>>6014949
Dark Forces 1 IS pretty much "Serious Bullshit: The Game". Note that pretty much all of its horseshit was fixed in Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight though.

>>6010915
build engine shooters - ranked

Blood
Duke
Shadow Warrior
Redneck Rampage

>>6014697
This happened after converting the mp4 to webm. Original is fine. No idea why, though.

When did companies stop releasing source code to their games roughly? The 00's.

That's why these games have had the longevity they've had. Because fans can keep them fresh. Such a shame that these corporations would rather lock down the IP than give to the fans

>>6015075
I dont think they can really do that anymore, due to extensive outsourcing of code, and a lot of code being hereditary, and there's dozens of libraries involved, and the engine may be re-used in a later game (or even just its bits and pieces) and so on - this creates a massive tangle of coyright where it's unclear who owns what exactly, so its easier to just not deal with it.

Besides AAA corporations these days never do anything that isnt directly beneficial to them,and source code release is not.
The "fan-support" is a mythical concept to them that never enters the picture and they never cared about longevity of the game as a piece of art, because no matter what they claim, the game is not art to them. It's a product that looses its value as soon as the generated revenue drops below a certain point.

>>6014904
>>6014948
t. scrubs that can't do without savescumming

After analyzing the ports of Doom made over time, I would rank them like this

*****
PS1
old PSN/Live

****
Xbox (Doom 3 collector edition)
Doom 3 BFG edition versions
The new Unity ports (now that they removed the DRM)

***
Jaguar
GBA
32X

**
SNES (extra star for effort)

*
3DO
Saturn

>>6015102
Fuck off.

If you're forcing me to go through your bullshit in one sitting instead of letting me get back to it later and not have to start from scratch when I inevitably get sick of it, then fuck you.

>>6014119
>OFP style aiming in doom
That's really neato. Amazing what can be done with [insert letter]ZDoom nowadays.

>>6010916
Shrine, total conversion mod for Doom 2.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/shrine

>>6010915
ZSDF editor anon here. It's out now. A bit earlier than expected. Source and binaries up on GitLab here: https://gitlab.com/accensi/acetoolkit

>>6011406
Duke is still King, but with Blood being an, until recently, more obscure title, talking about Blood gives you more internet coolguy points.

>>6015131
It's kinda sorta possible without zscript, but a huge pain in the ass and also with some visual issues. There was for example no way to lock mouse turning/looking only while allowing all other input.

>>6015119
i have to agree, i dont feel like sitting for fucking ages

>>6015119
Not everyone has such a short attention span they can't concentrate on a game for an hour straight, mr. zoom zoom.

>>6015156
u r not entitled to good ending tho

>>6015119
>and not have to start from scratch
Zoomers like you are way too much entitled. Can't deal with failure at all. Some games punish failure by making the player restart the level from scratch. "Oh, it's end of the world, this is bullshit, this is unfair!!!!"

Hence the "participation prizes" and the "everyone is a winner" mentality that permeates modern society.

>>6015158
>>6015159
>>6015164
t. gatekeeping elitist faggots

>>6015164
sounds like the participation trophies are being thought up and awarded by genx / millennial parents, anon.

>>6015141
Ctrl+F zsdf
Oh hey, here it is!

Gonna check it out

>>6015164
>Zoomers like you
I'm 35 you stupid retard.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Dark Forces still has cheat codes. Do you think I'd care all that much about the inability to save if dying was my only issue with it?

>>6015075
>>6015097
same reason why backwards compatibility feels rare, companies hate competing with older products and stuff related to it unless they can profit from it

Does vanilla essance change gameplay or it is just more of a visual/graphics mod?

>>6015164
Or, you know, people have other things in life than playing video games. It's not very fun if you're forced to lose all your progress because other responsibilities kept you from finishing the entire map in one go. That's not failure, that's matters outside the game removing your ability to continue playing it.

>>6015210
Typical zoomer argument. No, dear zoom zoom, if your schedule is really that busy, then you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place. Otherwise, you can play when you DON'T have anything else important to do. It's not like the levels are several hours long anyway, and if you do have to turn off and end up losing your progress, than boo hoo, you'll lose at very most half an hour. Is that really that much of a deal?

>It's not very fun if you're forced to lose all your progress because other responsibilities kept you from finishing the entire map in one go.
I wonder what these "responsibilities" are 99% of the time. Shitposting on social media? Watching your favorite Fortnite streamer? Masturbating to your gay furry brony porn?

Your short attention span prevent you from playing a single level from start to finish in one go, huh?

>>6015223
>if your schedule is really that busy, then you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place
You're just a projecting zoomer aren't you.

>>6015235
Stop biting it you fucking retard.

>>6015235
It's called "common sense", zoom zoom. Something that your ilk lacks, I understand.

Now let's end this pointless discussion, from experience I know that arguing with zoomers never goes anywhere. Have a nice day, kid.

>>6015285
t. zoomer

>>6015154
Yeah, I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be without ZScript. Of course, it's been years since I've done anything serious with Decorate, so take that for what it's worth.

>>6015075
>>6015097
A large part of the problem is patent trolls, software patent laws makes it extremely legally risky to release the source code for your commercial product.

Are you guys ready for decino kino?

>>6015138
that's great

some real strawmanning and projection going on here

mods?

>>6015164
Calm down, boomer.

>>6015165
Gatekeeping is good actually.

>>6015349
>Gatekeeping is good actually

>>6015352
That would be you, yes. Communities should expect newcomers to adhere to some standards and exhibit some respect for the interest and its history.

>>6015354
> no u

i smell samefagging

>>6015354
Stop taking the bait.

>>6015354
That's not gatekeeping though, that's just common sense.

I'm not a zoomer and there are some really toxic freaks in the quake community. Once this guy from Russia started telling me I had a low IQ and I should kill myself because he was better than me in the game. I found out later he was also a cheater, but I think he would have beaten me anyway. The point is that it's not all zoomers who are toxic and bad for the game.

>>6015381
Nothing wrong with zoomers if they're willing to learn and show genuine interest.

>>6010915
https://youtu.be/70rp8hU_bLE

Decino is currently doing the Okuplok slaughter map live on youtube, on Ultra-Violence 100%. That map contains 23211 demons, more than double what NUTS.WAD has. He estimates it will take at least 6 to 7 hours to beat. He is using saves this time, of course.

> zoomers zoomer zoom zoom
jesus christ learn a new word or two
acting like impressionable children

remember when nehahra was THE quake mod? lmao

>>6014080
Why do surprise chaingunners make the best comedy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVyMsAja5z8

How's the population of ZDaemon and Zandro these days?

>>6015407
Ok boomer

>>6015510
> using 'zoomer' = boomer
> hating 'zoomer' = boomer

???

>>6015102
Go back to your NES games grandpa

>>6015460
I'd assume they're the same as they've been for the past two years or so
ZDN is mostly empty save for scheduled events and friends occasionally doing co-op
Zandro is fairly populated with the majority sticking to LCA/MM8BDM

>>6015381
Ok? There are gonna be spergs and ragers that pop up in literally every video game community. Especially multiplayer communities.

>>6015519
>LCA/MM8BDM
Good lord, I was really hoping Zandro had moved on to something new. I appreciate the info, anon.

>>6015519
>>6015575
Lca might return dominant when Clusterfuck releases

aside from that bisness is usual in there i suppose

the fuck is LCA?

>>6015629
Legendary Complex Addon
an addon for the complex doom

It basicly adds the legendary enemies and shit and it's usually regarded as how complex is usually seen

I've been playing more Quake 1 ever since the Halloween Jam Pack came out. The dark ambient music in quake is getting into my head. Is there another game similar to this feel? its that constant feeling of dread and fear at every corner.

>>6015694
dusk

>>6015703
"no"

>>6015694
>muh ambient
everytime

>>6015694
Doom 64

>>6015709
Its almost as if it resonated with a lot of players.

>>6015724
Indeed, its the thing people remember about quake.

>>6011085
>implying you haven't done things without realizing their consequences until it was too late

>>6015709
You say that like it's a problem.

>>6015709
>everytime posting
everytime

>>6015694
doom 64, Blood and Dusk,

>>6015769
>Dusk
"no"

>>6011090
New copypasta? Thanks!

>>6015791
play it, you coward

Brutal Quake when?
>inb4 quake 1.5

>>6015805
MetaQuake when?

>>6015805
What would be different from brutal quake and quake 1.5 then because it pretty much has a lot of brutal traits
>Extra Gore
>Kick button
>New weapons
>Altered mechanics
>Some questionable design choices

>>6015138
man, fuck this niggas

>>6015886
The guns looks pretty bad. Like they're done in ms Paint or something. Needs like darker shading or something

>>6015138
Ok who made the army of patrick star clones and why

how bad was the ps1 port of hexen?
was it that unplayable or just a matter of cut content?

>>6015938
The enemies have no rotations so it looks like theyre constantly moonwalking and strafing.

>>6015886
Looks like he was going for the Hylics aesthetic or something

>>6015938
I wish that someone could rip and port the Cutscenes into GZDOOM or DOS if someone is autistic enough, they were great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LAYRHjI9k

>>6015943
No, it looks more like it's trying to stick to just an 8-bit color depth for each graphic, what you posted looks fucking disgusting.

PLAY HEXEN
PLAY TUROK
PLAY STRIFE

>>6015959
Hylics has a god-tier artstyle that took craft to create. You pleb.

>>6015959
>8-bit color depth
So, just like the original Doom palette?

>>6015916
The dithering is too smooth. Doesn't match the material it's supposed to be.
P common pixel art mistake. Some of it looks okay. Some looks kinda shite.

>>6015381
lol

>>6015313
I initially did it in decorate/ACS some years ago, with massive help from an anon here. Who was totally not ijon.

>>6015965
It may have taken effort, but it's ugly to look at.

>>6016215
You're ugly to look at.

>>6015943
>Hylics
my nigga
We need more surreal wad/tcs. Or at least good horror ones like Unloved.

https://twitter.com/Skelegant/status/1195476877848088576

>>6015395
oof, I get bored after about 30 minutes of playing a wad, my condolences to him

>>6015395
>6 to 7 hours to beat
he is at 10 hours and still going now lol
poor dude

>playing through SHRINE

Interesting art style. concur with other anonymous who got Hylics vibes off it.
Couple improperly scrolling waterfall textures on map2.
Having the shotguns in slots 8 and 9 is fucking me up serious-style.
Corpses smooshed by doors leave Doom2 smooshed corpse sprites, that could use some work.
Fucking hell this Baron replacement is just a bit much innit?
Horizontal scrolling skybox texture on map6 could stand to tile better.
Piss Christ why is this Lost Soul replacement the way it is
Placenta cannon could use an original explosion sprite. Also I think these railgun revenants are shooting arachnotron plasma at me.
Is there REALLY no weapon in slot 3?
Boy this WAD likes reusing bosses as regular enemies. kinda makes the boss fights less special IMO.
Okay i'm not making it any further than map13, good WAD anyway, peace out fucknuts

>>6013829
Quake is better than Doom.
Doom is just rooms full of cannon fodder.
Quake actually has you think

Bloom is trash

>>6016297
Do not pet.

Does any of the new doom engines allow 3d maps or that is still a no no?

>>6016423
You can have 3D floors with GzDoom, though there's some things to keep in mind with them, such as how they use memory, and how monsters behave with them.

>>6016357
from what I've read it's his first doom wad so he did pretty good

>>6015769
>Dusk
Shitty level design, unfitting but good music, le brootal supa fast-paced gameplay that's only appealing to zoomers, and isn't what anon requested at all.
I'm hopeful that the community will do good with the modding tools however

>>6015694
Marathon (to an extent) and PSX Doom.

Pretty sure it's fucking SATURDAY
WHAT ARE YOU MAPPIN'? TEXTURIN'? MUSICIN'?
LETS SEE THOSE SCREENSHOTS
I'M NOT THE NORMAL GUY BUT I DON'T THINK HE'LL MIND

Every map of eviternity i play is full of dumb shit like awkward encounters where you're forced to snipe a crowd from a distance. Shit that would be picked apart if it was in any wad that didn't look as pretty.

>>6016509
I'm working on something for an mm8bdm mod.
It has nothing to do with Megaman.

>>6015395
>23k demons
>10 hour stream
what the fuck
Zikshadow no failure Hideous Destructor run when

>>6016521
Damn that's smooth

>>6010915
Whoever recommended Blood is an asshole. That game fucking sucks

>tfw bunnies

>>6016487
>le brootal supa fast-paced gameplay that's only appealing to zoomers
this is the worst take that i have ever read in here, good job anon

>>6016509
Actually uploaded to Zdoom forums last night

Been playing GMOTA 1.3 through Scythe 2, Kustam is great and I'm really glad he meshed so well with the game

I think I found a bug though with Kustam and the Ring of Might
Sometimes that allows instant max charge kicks and it doesn't really go away until after several times in a row and I'm not sure what "fixes" it to work like normal with the standard double kick

>>6016550
>love for doom 64
tell me more about this

>>6016542
I guess it's a lot easier to animate stuff when you work with less colors and resolution

>>6016557
right here
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/iizz7pqzfs9ddu2/AACr4HZA5AKr-IiQ4reXDsvva?dl=0
Also here's a Swoleimp made just now

>>6011065
based cultist poster

>>6016567
pretty cool stuff

>>6016567
>dos Diabolos sprites
Damn, that is some endgame boss shit.

>>6016579
>When someone finds a red beherit in Mordor

post ur frag vids

>>6016556
Dammit. I thought I fixed that. Well I'll sort that out shortly then. Expect more balancing shit and nerfing of a few attacks/abilities.
I had someone say I should remove the stunning effect of the kick and I sure as hell ain't doing that. It's too awesome

>>6016509
Wrapping up work on babby's first doom map

>>6016636
I like the looks of her

>>6016545
I was recommended it, and thought it was alright.

>>6015943
IIRC Hylics is made from real photos, images of art pieces and claymation.
Shrine looks like a mioshmash of someone's pixel art portfolio and ms-paint hackjob.

>refueling base on hideous destructor

>>6016423
>>6016438
Yes, you can use what's basically the same trick Duke does - make second floor a separate area and transition zones being wall-portals (allows for shooting through them too).

Or you can straight up do 3D floors but that's a bit cumbersome.

>>6016695
yeah imagine playing that mod unironically

>>6016710
I don't have to imagine, I play it. The Thunderbuster makes me feel like a god sometimes.

>>6016710
>imagine playing a mod IRONICALLY

>>6016714
I play doom ironically because blood and quake are better

>>6016717
Doing stuff like that out of "irony" is the act of a dork.
Just play Blood and Quake, you dork.

>>6016509
Visiting over from agdg, I've been working on a brush-based level editor for muh game. Now got texture setting on surfaces and uv manipulation.

Why Doom and all other 2.5D FPS have only one frame for dead enemies while they have multiple frames from different angles for each action?

>>6016932
Might have been a performance thing back in the day, nowadays it's probably just skipped because it'd be a pain in the ass.
Plus there's the advantage of easy readability of quickly spotting and identifying enemy corpses.

>>6016932
It just looks weird when non-moving objects have rotations.

>>6016932
They didnt have good pixel artists back then and went "good enough"

A crybomb is a poor choice for close range combat.

>>6016961
I can't get enough of these TEXTURES frankensprites, especially that revolver. The cryobombs are sick too.

>>6015943
It's a shame that for all Hylics did well, they did absolutely fuck all to hide the fact that it's an RPG Maker game. Default menus, battle menus...man it's just gross.

>>6016559
So are you making Blood8bones Deathmatch?
but seriously anon that shit you do looks really cool!

What are some good wads with a medieval/fantasy aesthetic to them?

Doom noob here. Started playing about 3 weeks ago.
Beat Doom 1, now I'm onto Doom 2.

Dead Simple gave me a ton of trouble. Probably the first level I had to stop and think to myself exactly why I was dying, and how I could fix it. That's one thing I really enjoy about this game. When I fuck up and die, it really does feel like I'm the one who fucked up. Even in the run where I beat it, I still fucked up with the end part of it with shitty dodging and flubbed weapon switching.

Any advice from people who got gud at Doom about...getting gud at Doom?

>>6017045
Learn to circle strafe efficiently, and fight around corners a lot.

Learn which enemies have a low pain tolerance, and can be pain-locked with chainsaw. Pinkies and cacodemons are like this. You can kill them with no risk of a damage and at no ammo consumption, and they also provide cover as you're sawing them.

Also learn target priority: Hitscanners, Pain elementals and Archviles are some that you'll want to kill ASAP.