/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6017453
Holy shit I think I had that poster

>>6017453
Good taste. I rented it back when it first came out and had fun with it despite also 100%ing Banjo Kazooie prior. It's where I learned of the existence of the original Donkey Kong for arcade, too, which was a very awesome easter egg.

I've spouted a lot of hate about DK64 and will probably continue to do so, but with that said it's still like, OK. I've played worse platformers. The main reason I have such a problem with it is only because I expected better from Rare/Nintendo, not because it's bad compared to other 3rd-party platformers.

>>6017453
Man, I got a lot of great memories from that game. My cousin got it for Christmas ‘99 and we spent over a year 100%+ it (because we lived in different cities and I only saw him like once a month).

Creative bosses, nice music, fun minigames, and it was HUGE.

The gameplay, style, music, levels, bosses, challenges etc. None of it is bad, they're all quite fun. All of the elements of a good game are there

And this is an appreciation thread so I'll leave this there.

>>6017453
Agree but I think it improves on BK in nearly every aspect apart from slightly dragging at times. The atmosphere in some levels is incredible and there are many fun ideas. I wish they made more games like this.

Even if you're a parroter who hates on DK64 because "muh collecathon" memewords, the DK64 cart is still worth it for DK Arcade.

good example of a bad game with high soul

This was my honest-to-god reaction to DK64.
>Be huge fan of DKC and Nintendo in general
>Had that marketing VHS for DKC sent to him
>Watch that shit weekly until launch day
>Get DKC, love it
>Get DKC2 later on, love it as well
>DKC3 is overly ambitious trash that tries too hard to add "features"
>N64 comes out, DK64 comes out
>Rent it from Blockbuster
>Pop it in, watch the terrible intro
>Cringe
>Ready to return it to Blockbuster just after seeing that
>Plays the first level.
>"This is fucking awful"
>I expected so much more from Rare and Nintendo
>Returns it to Blockbuster

I've always respected DK64 - I think its bad reputation is kind of skewed by the fact that the DKC series is so good. I don't play N64 games, but from what I recall, DK64 was one of the better games on that console, and one of the best N64 platformers.

>>6018642
Oh, and DKC1 is turning 25 on the 21st of November, let's not forget that.

>>6017453
John F. Kennedy was shot exactly 33 years before this game’s release.
The Legend of Zelda came out just over 33 years before this anniversary.

Reminder that the DK64 criticism started later, upon release this game had universal acclaim.

Holy shit this was my first video game. I really should play it again. How does it run on Project64?

>>6018773
>just over

Does it still emulate like shit?

>>6019143
>>6019703

Banjo-Kazooie did the multiple-season level better, but DK64 did the haunted house level better.

Tiny Kong reminds me of my fifth grade crush.

>>6018939
Most of the supposed criticism directed towards DK64, is parroted from either ecelebs of joke game journalist.

>>6017489
DK64 set the bar incredibly high and nothing really compares. It's right there with BJT by the same devs.
>>6018606
nah it's one of the best and I replay it often
>>6018618
>This was my honest-to-god reaction to DK64.
>>Be huge fan of DKC and Nintendo in general
>>Had that marketing VHS for DKC sent to him
>>Watch that shit weekly until launch day
. . .
>>N64 comes out, DK64 comes out
>>Rent it from Blockbuster
>>Pop it in, watch the terrible intro
>>Cringe
o_o
>"This is fucking awful"
>>6018939>>6019997
for some reason a lot of youtubers have had influence on gamers, it's kinda revolting
>>6019143>>6019793
it works flawlessly for me, and all the graphical fidelity is there if I choose to use an advanced plugin
>>6017453
BJK is a vastly different game imo, only BJT and DK64 are similar to one another, placing heavy empahsis on returning to previous levels with new and upgraded abilities. It's much more arcadey or old school in the way it feels, allowing you to play the entirety of a level in one go if you're good enough to pull it off.

>>6020016
If you dont mind me asking, what plugins are you using?

>>6018939
>>6019997


Kinda like when Erin criticized Ocarina of Time and then suddenly everyone started copying his criticisms.

>>6020048
I'm quite sure it runs perfectly with the most up to date version of PJ64's official packed in ones. When I want 100% authenticity I switch to Glide, that gives me the decals back in all the games I've tried but runs slower.

>>6020109
his critiques of OoT don't even makes sense, I recently watched it for the first time

he talks about the majestic wonder of what the dungeon item will be running several rooms back to a chest that was locked for fuck all reason

then he criticizes the wait time of opening a chest in OoT to see what it is

>>6019997
>>6020109
I've seen people always linking that "bad game design dk64" and that guy goes a bit too far in regards to what he wanted the game to be like.

>>6020126
egoraptor has said that he regrets making that video and admitted he bullshitted because he was personally upset with the game.
his OOT playthrough showed how bad he is at the game, like irremediably bad.
He also ragequitted Majora's Mask in the stone temple's miniboss because he couldn't figure it out.

>>6020248
and yet he spread his opinion
and people ate it up
oof

>>6017453
Now the dust has settled, what was better, DK64 or pic related?

>>6020274
Also, were they and Kazooie all on the same engine?

>>6019703
Runs alright on Wii/U virtual console

>>6020274
DK by a margin

DK64 is a perfect example of 2D>3D
How they could they turn a beautiful series like DKC into low fidelty polygon trash and still think of it as an "upgrade" is beyond me. It felt like stepping backwards 1-2 generations

God I hate the 5th gen with a passion

>>6020334

>>6020381>>6020334
fucking tools
it looks like the left whether it's sprites or low polygon
I love 5th gen and I hate you

>>6019939
Man fuck just looking at this gives me a warm feeling. I got the DK 64 console bundle back in '99 and I still have it.

>>6020381
>using the low-poly model from the MP

>>6020381
>yfw you realize zoomers feel the same way about low poly as you do about pixel art

>>6020417
Stay the fuck away from my daughter.

>>6018203
No
>>6018939
>>6019997
>>6020109
Wrong
>>6020016
>dk64 set the bar incredibly high

>>6017453
Still hands down the best voice DK ever had. I cringe at that Japanese Scooby Doo shit they use in the new games.

>>6017453
This game sucked badly due to the whole needing X kong for Y task. I liked Banjo Kazooie a lot better to be honest.

>>6020763
it did, there's no better collectathon to play other than BJT by the same dev team

>>6020274
DK64 is much better. BT is just boring, it tried to follow DK64 route and ended up a bloated mess, soulless minigames, soulless levels, soulless boss battles, horrible FPS sequences, millions of cutscenes for every little thing you do, having to wait for the train still gives me nightmares.

>>6020774
sounds too much like a black person, which isn't much of a coincidence when watermelons are the monkey's health gauge.

>>6017496
>we spent over a year 100%+ it (because we lived in different cities and I only saw him like once a month).
So you beat the game in 12 sessions? Hmm...

>>6020820
Spyro
SM64

>>6020417
Low-poly is far less edamame than le pixels

>>6019968
... wat

>>6020882
Well, we spent hours and hours playing each day. Plus, we got more time during Spring Break and Summer.

>>6020381
>using the multiplayer model
10/10, nice bait
single player had more detail on him

>>6019793
party hard

>>6020248
why didn't he try using the item he got in the dungeon

>>6021889
I think at one point he did, but he was too slow/stupid to realize the way he really needed to fight the boss.

>>6021016
>Spyro
>SM64

>>6021078
Pixel art is way easier to make too, which is why people jumped on the retro-game bandwagon with stuff like Shovel Knight.

>>6023139
Its funny that they even can't do it well

>>6018618
you honest-to-god sound like a fucking retard

>>6017453
i've 101%'d it twice in the last few years, i dont give a fuck what anyone says its been one of my favorite games since I was a kid

>follow up to platforming series has very little actual platforming and the focus is now on context-sensitive abilities that open switches to places with more switches that open doors to isolated minigame challenges recycled throughout 7 worlds
Cool

>>6017453
My onion is that it's a bad game because of the "complete every level 5 times" thing - but Creepy Castle was the best level. Had interesting progression each way through, every time over the 5. If every level was like Castle in regards to its design being good, would have been an 11/10 game. Instead it's like...6/10 maybe.

>"I guess I'll give it another try"
>start from beginning
>get to Jungle Japes, get Diddy, start collecting things
>after about an hour shut the game off
>6 months later, repeat
I'm not the biggest fan of Banjo-Kazooie but that game holds my attention for longer for some reason.

>>6020248
>claims combat is bad
>literally never tries to use any of his items, just stands around with his sword and shield and waits for enemies to open up
Just use a Deku Nut you complete fucking retard

>>6018647
well today's the day

>>6020847
>soulless

There is a randomizer im finna to try out might breath some air into it

>>6017453
Where was Dixie Kong?

>>6029173
Early in development there was an edict not to include any material from the sequels, which got thrown out the window as time went on

>>6029195
Interdasting. Sauce?

>>6025065
The main issue is that it takes forever to do something. The maps feel huge and having to select a Kong on a barrel then go all the way back to the other side door 14 minutes is a Hassle.

>>6020109
yep. Acting like sheep, especially when an influential person says something about a piece of media, was always a thing. But these zoomer e-celebs fuckwits take it to a whole new level completely. They may as well have never played the game/watched the movie or whatever. Their talking points are 1:1 nothing but the "consensus", they never have an original thought, you'll never get one of them saying they really love it. I get the feeling that even when they're playing the game they already have their opinions formed and you can bet the majority of them aren't even beating games like this properly.

Zoom zooms hate DK64 because their YouTube video tells them it’s bad.

However, I don’t fault them because I believed everything /v/ hiveminded back in 2007 and I’m sure some of that was bullshit too.

>>6025065
You have to be in the modd for it

Anyone play this on a flashcart? I have like 13 banana fairies, but Mystery is still grayed out in the main menu.

>>6033729
Also Kong Battle is grayed out despite having two controllers plugged in. Googled around and I can't find anyone with these issues.

Bosses in this game are fantastic