/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6016107
Kf2

Ultima underworld

a whole host of western dungeon crawlers better than this derivative jap console trash

>>6016134
Lmao westcucks.

>>6016135
Seething weebnigger.

>>6016134
And none of them have any sense of atmosphere. It's all furry shit.

>>6016107
Dark Souls.

>>6016196
Whoah there buddy

>>6016107
How about the real "King's Field"?

>>6016107
hexen (heretic) > this clunky shit

>>6016225

hexen and heretic are just doom clones.

The best part of KF is undeniably the music. The Chu Ishikawa-inspired soundtrack is a marvel and it's criminal that From dropped the ball so hard on the music in the Souls series in favor of silence followed by LOUD CHANTING crap.

>>6016140
Western games will be forever inferior.

>>6016239
Eh, the dungeon synth-esque soundtrack works better with the KF games overall look and feel than any Souls game.

>>6016258
Not saying they should have reused the KF soundtracks, just had some good atmospheric music instead of nothing

Shadow Tower series

>>6016134
Very few retro western dungeon crawlers had real-time combat and free movement without a grid. You have Daggerfall, but the dungeon design is inferior to Kings Field. Basically you have Ultima Underworld, and maybe System Shock if you want to call that a dungeon crawler.

>>6016285
Nothing IS atmosphere. Shadow Tower easily beats out the KF games in terms of atmosphere and it’s not much different than the Souls games in terms of sound.

>>6017353

I've tried shadow tower but it wasn't really what I was looking for, or it had a different vibe than kf.

>>6017353
Absolute horse shit. Shadow Tower has nothing on KF besides a few more polygons, it is remarkably lighter in tone and has none of the oppressive atmosphere of KF

>>6016107
a heap of compost

>>6017420
Horseshit back at ya, I love KF and its atmosphere but can't stand playing ST because that shit has the creepiest atmosphere I've ever encountered in a game. The soundscape is just insane.

>>6017347
Might & Magic 6+ too

>>6017347
The only other japanese game with this kind of rpg gameplay is LSD dream emulator and thats not even an Rpg weeb.

>>6018052
I know very few retro Japanese titles are like this too. My point was more a direct response to the guy saying there was "a whole host of western dungeon crawlers" like King's Field. I'll never understand when guys get all butthurt and feel like they need to "take sides" with western VS Japanese titles, or American VS European titles, or whatever.

>>6016107
Baroque is good if you can find a translation patch for it.

>>6018530
does a translation patch for baroque even exist?

>>6016107
dark souls :^))))))))))))

Echo Night
Echo Night 2

>>6018507
There's also thief 1, thief 2, deus ex, non retro elder scroll games, bethesda fallout, some other M&M games, system shock 2.
But I agree that taking sides with Ameican vs Japanese is dumb, I would be listing japanese games if I knew any.

OH MY GOD ITS FROM THE MAKERS OF DARK SOULS

>>6020081
>why don't girls like me
>i feel poor

>>6016107
I made this chart a month ago, hope it helps

If Ultima Underworld is so good, why are you guys always lurking the KF threads. Checkmate westcucks.

>>6016142
shadow tower has a way better atmosphere than king's field IMO. Shadow Tower is claustophobic and unsettling but king's field kills the mood with its looping midi music

>>6021663
>words worth
the hentai?
that's new to me.
i guess i shouldn't be too surprised, hentai had a lot of clout in the 90's

>>6016239
Souls is okay when it's blasting trumpets so Demon's Souls has pretty great music and the rest are kind of annoying.

>>6020081
I don't know about Armored Core but the only game from FromSoft I don't think is completely overrated is The Adventures of Cookie and Cream.

>>6021663
Lol I forgot about Words Worth

>>6024272
Yeah, but only the remake, because the original was grid-based.