/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6012161
Arcade gaming was shit tier: too expensive to collect for and most of the games were just shitty quarter-grabbers.

>>6012172
This is just plain wrong. Arcade games were some of the best games that is why so many were ported to consoles.

Get gud noob.

Too many to list, almost all of my favorites are arcade games. Been trying to get a Cadillacs & Dinosaurs no death run, fantastic game
>>6012172
Download mame and some roms, both problems solved can play any game at any time and get good at your own pace without losing any money. If you're not one of those sad collectors who doesn't play that is

My favorites were Sunset Riders and Rastan.

SSF2T
SFA3
XMVSF
CVS2
Garou
GGX

>>6012161
the mobile gaming of the past

>>6012161
>favorite arcade games
Pick related, Joust, Gyruss, frogger, and lots of others.
>>6012172
>too expensive
Nowadays but not too long ago you could get cabs for cheap. Really wish I would have bought more when I had the chance.

>>6012197
Forgot pic

>>6012183
>suggesting emulation
Are you some kinda fuckin homo

>>6012213
>>6012172
1/10 bait.

>>6012213
Sounds like cope from someone too dumb to figure out how to set up mame

>>6012187
>Rastan
Based

>>6012195
People like to make this comparison, but it doesn't really work. Arcade machines were state-of-the-art graphics and sound with dedicated controllers designed for the individual game. Hardware so expensive you could only dream of having it at home, but you could rent access to it for a quarter.

>>6012172
Harsh but true

>>6012275
They are the polar opposite of mobile gaming desu, where mobile shit is free to play arcade games are pay to play, where mobile shit forces grinding or paying up arcade games are pure skill based challenges that are honest about what they are, where mobile games have layers of progression systems profiles and customizations the only thing you get to keep in arcade games is your score. Oh and as you said the games are actually good, best tech, best presentation and best game design.

>>6012286
Exatcly this based anon

>>6012161
CarnEvil

>>6012275
>rent access to
Maximum Jew.

And people actually fell for that shit back in the day lmao.

>>6012307
How is that any different from renting a seat to watch a movie in a theatre, only you pay more and is not interactive.

>>6012286
>getting sniped by hidden tanks from behind your ship that you can only memo dodge after grinding precise routes
Ahh, yes, the craftsmanship of arcade games, wow, totally not quarter munching scams to trick little kids and old boomers .

>>6012314
You the movie doesn't give you game overs because you couldn't say precisely what happens in the next scene.

During my childhood, fighting games ruled the land. Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II were by far my favorite arcade games.

>>6012161
Puzzle Fighter
Metal Slug
DoDonPachi
Bust a Move
Virtual On
Virtua Fighter 2
House of the Dead
Virtua Cop
Area 51

Too many to name, but those are some random ones I liked playing a lot.

>>6012703
A game isn't a movie. Paying for an opportunity to try your hand at a fun challenge is fair, even if you can't make it far.

>>6012314
You pay once to see the whole movie. You have to pay several times at an arcade game, and don't give me that 1cc bullshit, you have to learn and practice the game a bunch before you can pull that off. Ergo arcades are more jewish than going to the theatre.

>arcade cult
>1cc
What a meaningless concept. 1cc,2cc,4cc, what's the difference? You still suck at the game if the best you do is le 1cc bomb spam garbage clear. Just quit playing and go collect stamps.

I read an article about this game decades ago and always wanted to play it but could never find it. Parker Brothers made a port of it for the 2600 so I bought it. I must have played that thing for months and got really good at it. later on I was with my family at Ocean City NJ and found the real thing at the arcade there. I must have pumped ten dollars worth of quarters into that thing but could not get anywhere.

Still, when I win the Powerball this will be my first purchase for my entertainment room.

i was lucky to have a small but relatively well stocked and maintained indie arcade a few 100 yards from my house. this little den of iniquity nestled in an outer unit of the mall. It was smelly and actually a sketchy place to be for a kid back in the 80/90s... it had so many classic games which i was privileged to experience first hand. double dragon, golden axe, rampage, afterburner. space harrier, outrun, fantasy zone, rush'n'attack, shinobi, toki, wonder boy, for a small indie arcade it was suprising just how many cabinets and class games it would have through its doors, even before the likes of mortal kombat and virtua fighter, before house of the dead...

tl;dr shitty ass town with nothing going for it in the 80s has a hidden gem of an indie arcade, a couple of 100yrds from this 8yo front door... a who's who of 80s and 90s arcade classics...

DID YOU EVER XYBOTS?

>>6012720
>Fun challenge
You would say it is a fun challenge that the game takes all your credits if you enter the last screen and the timer isn't ending with a 3.

>>6012696
They dont come from behind you simply let them scroll down by not killing everything efficiently. The games arent piss easy like what you are used to, they require practice

>>6012753
A 1cc is what the games balanced around, thats the difference. Its also the prerequisite for keeping your score. Whether or not you suck at the game after 1cc depends on the game, in caveshit you can get by bomb spamming, in other games the difference between a 1cc and a no death run is a bit of grinding runs

>>6012728
Movie tickets usually cost more than 10 dollars. That's more than 40 quarters. So theoretically if you get gud you could make that last all day.

>>6012728
You can see the entire game for like a dollar in most cases unless you are really terrible, and can quit after a single quarter if the game isnt fun. Even getting good enough to 1cc will cost you less than the average home game at the time if you avoid infamously hard games

Back in the day cabinets were set at 10 or 20 pence in the UK. You were getting between 5 and 10 plays for £1. The USA and its 25c scamallamadingdong

>>6013025
>You can see the entire game for like a dollar in most cases
Of course, forgot we are in 4chan where every anon 1cc all the arcade games even though when I went to the arcades back in the day people could barely pass the first screen

>>6012161

>>6013039
Then they were either casuals who would even struggle with Zelda and were there to socialize, or they're retarded. If you play these games a 4cc is completely reasonable

more difficulty doesn't equal more fun
that's what arcadefags don't understand
a game should be just difficult enough to stimulate you into thinking and experimenting through trial and error a few times, then it can be fun.
if you need to be severely punished and beaten to have fun in games then you have psych problems. also if you have fun playing mindlessly easy games then maybe you are afraid of a challenge and failure? both are extremes

>>6012728
>>6012307
>>6012195
>>6012172
>le microtransations maymay from le reddit

>>6013051
>a game should cater to my tastes and everyone who has different tastes is mentally ill
You're like a child

>>6013052
rent-free

>>6013051
Videogames are gay anyway. So much effort and nothing to show for it. You could have spent that time jerking off and you would have accomplished the same thing.

>>6013058
>a game should cater to my tastes and everyone who has different tastes is mentally ill
yes arcadefags overhype the importance of SUPER HARD DIFFICULTY & PUNISHING arcade games over le piss easy console games!! it's hilarious how they miss the mark so bad.

>>6013058
video games are a supplement to your life, a hobby, a bonus, of course they are a waste of time if you don't have your shit sorted out. the fact that you even said this means you fucked up your life quite badly, in the past? yes? tell us what happened how did games burn you?

>>6013068
So arcade chads insulted your precious console shit and you're now here to whine? Pathetic.

>>6013053
so Chads insulted your quarter-munching memorizers and you're now here to whine? Pathetic (but expected)

>>6012161
Dk
Ninja Hayate
Virtua cop

The mere presence of an arcade thread sends consolecucks into a fit of rage driven by their inferiority complex, its incredible

>>6012161

Yanno what my favourite thing of arcade gaming was?

Hanging out with friends. Grabbing some pizza or mcDonalds. Maybe run in to some girls from school and hanging out. Seeing people from school that I didn't hang out with but found common ground in playing games and making friends.

I console game now but fuck, it feels like something is lost these days.

>>6013101
This. Its a damn shame consolecucks will never experience the glory days of arcade game rooms.

Is there a way you can play arcade games for free using technology or something? Then you wouldn't have to worry about quarters

>>6013108
Nope. If you can't put it on the shelf for display, it's not real.

>>6013108
They are still quarter munchers even emulated. Instead of eating quarters of your money, they eat quarters of your time/life. Not worth it. Just play fun games that offer a reasonable challenge but also have tight gameplay. Pic related. Without needing to be grinded autistically.

>>6013015
>playing for a 1cc
Might as well learn to speedrun a game, same sort of route grinding involved. Totally gay and unfun that anyone can do (even trannies, and obese low IQ retards).

>>6013116
You don't need to grind autistically for a 1cc, which you'd know if you had any experience, but a consolecuck's a consolecuck

>>6013123
>You don't need to grind autistically for a 1cc
if the game needs routing and is memorization based then yes you do need to grind routes autistically until you can preempt all the danger

>>6013116
>Might as well learn to speedrun a game, same sort of route grinding involved. Totally gay and unfun that anyone can do (even trannies, and obese low IQ retards).
Not the guy you're responding to, but I disagree. Most of the speedrunners would rather grind games they already played in the past due to nostalgia and familiarity, so for them to play shmups is rather unlikely.

>>6013131
Doing one or two runs a day while generally getting further each time for couple of weeks-month isn't what I'd call "grinding autistically" which usually implies constant restarts with no progress and binge playing. I don't see the point of a game you can beat without trying though, it makes them disposable and unmemorable.

>>6013101
In my country, arcades were very popular, but also a bit shady as a young kid in the 80s. Sometimes tough guys would steal your coins, or some teenage gang would sit outside and ask for an 'entrance fee' to young kids. Smoking was also allowed inside, and sometimes the whole place would smell like weed.
But overall it was not so bad. The ones in malls were cleaner and you could hang out with lots of people, spend the whole afternoon outside while also playing games.

>>6013139
they still grind routes, one way or another, whether it's metroid or ikaruga.

>>6013142
>one or two runs daily
Talk to me in time or credits. "runs" means nothing.
That could literally be 5minutes? If youre first run ends on stage 1 and second run ends on stage 2...
You mean credits? You play 1 or 2 credits a day? The fuck is that shit. It'll take you MONTHS to 1cc even a shit easy game you aren't familiar with. Just pick a new hobby if that's what you're doing.
Are you talking about doing runs in games you've already cleared and are familiar with? Because -full runs- don't usually happen until you've already grinded out some routes and bosses and know the stages moderately well...

> I don't see the point of a game you can beat without trying though, it makes them disposable and unmemorable.
If you're playing 1-2 credits a day, or 10-20minutes, or whatever the heck you're doing, then you aren't even trying as it is. lmao. what a waste of time.

>>6013142
>one to two runs a day
so you chat and shitpost more than you play?
lmao

>>6013164
1. Runs never end in stage 1-2 unless you are beyond trash, in a 5 stage game the first 3 stages are usually easy enough that you can beat them blind, in some games like beat 'em ups you can play for almost 20 minutes before game overing even playing blind
2. Is the concept of credit feeding for practice alien to you? You do full runs of the game credit feeding once you get a game over to get practice at the later parts, it's extremely common
>If you're playing 1-2 credits a day, or 10-20minutes, or whatever the heck you're doing, then you aren't even trying as it is.
Is this the mind of a binge gamer neet? Trying means sticking to a game and learning it thoroughly, I've spent hundreds of hrs playing some games over the course of years and got very good at them simply because I enjoy them. Meanwhile you do what, binge play until you "beat" a game in the most low effort way possible and move on? Turns games into fast food tier disposable crap, rather than something to enjoy your time with.

Imagine being so intimidated by mildly difficult games that you command strangers not to play them

>>6013195
This is what women do with men

>>6013194
>tl;dr I barely play and talk out my ass
You play 20-30mins a day? you 1cc a game every one or two years? Wowsies! And this gives you the clout and prestige to shit on console games and people looking for moderate challenges?
hilarious.

>binge gamer neet
So now you're whining about actual arcade gamers who try to get good? meaning grinding routes and practicing a few hours a day for years and years? Make up your mind/ You aren't making any sense.

>>6013194
>I've spent hundreds of hrs playing some games over the course of years and got very good at them
>VERY GOOD AT THEM
What game are you very good at? Got any evidence? Leaderboards? Replays? Tourney wins?

>>6013228
I play about an hour, sometimes 2, most 1cc's take a couple of weeks of playing, though some took me 2-3 months
>And this gives you the clout and prestige to shit on console games
LOL he mad
>So now you're whining about actual arcade gamers who try to get good?
Are you an actual arcade gamer who tries to get good? Where's your scores?
>>6013248
Post your steam and confirm it's yours and I'll tell you

>>6013279
he asked first. why are you hiding?

Why is it always 1ccfags in these threads? Where's the fighting game players? Why are you all playing single player games? Don't you have friends?

>>6013296
idk why would someone want to stay anonymous on an anonymous site you tell me

>>6013279
>>6013296


*crickets*
That was easy.

"Game over again REEE!"
"Arcade games bad!"
It just so happens that a properly designed high difficulty makes for a good game.
But before you can become good at the game, you must first admit the game isn't THAT hard; it's because you suck and didn't try hard enough.
When you can't beat first stage, that means YOU SUCK. Accept it and stop blaming the game.

>>6013301
I play beat em ups with my friend pretty regularly

>>6013378
NOOO GAMES SHOULD PANDER TO MY LAZINESS, IF THEY DONT THEYRE BADLY DESIGNED!!!

>>6013510
>>6013378
If you have big scores post them, no one cares about 1ccs, except posers and boomer collectors.

>>6013564
Post your own scores first before asking others for theirs, big boy.

Why don't you /v/edditors stay on your board for once?

>>6013574
I don't larp as an arcadefag. That's your gimmick.

>>6013579
Then why do you speak for arcadefags and what they care about or dont? Why are you even here if you hate arcade games, to seethe?

>>6013578
>REEE DON'T BRING ARCADE GAMES ON MUH SECONDARY BOARD

>>6013579
20.3M in Blue Wish Resurrection normal diff using Hope and auto guard on.
38.9M in Zen-Ichi.
Your turn faggot.

>>6013301
The fighting and rhythm game players have their own threads on /vg/ and /jp/. I'm pretty sure there's a speedrunning thread on /vg/, too. The 1cc guys hang out on /vr/ because their thing is too niche to have real threads about.

>>6013589
>just saying numbers
We need replays or screens. If not, get out.

>>6013635
Who's "we"?

>>6013058
We have a thread for doing both at once >>6006947

>>6013639
Not him, but he's right. You need proof, otherwise anyone can claim just about anything.
I've 1CC'd Jurassic Park arcade! See? It means nothing without proof.

>>6013646
If you're going to run around asking people for scores on an anonymous board then you better be prepared to show yours tho, if he has none then well...that's just cowardly shitposting.

>>6013609
Ah, that actually makes sense

>>6013635
Very well, here's your screen.
Now where's your scores bro? I'm not seeing any numbers let alone proof so far ..

>>6013718
I don't have the 38.9M replay for Zen-Ichi anymore but I have 35.7M no-bomb score.

>>6013718
that score sucks

>>6013736
wow
#btfo

>>6013736
Well no shit, I used Hope after all because I like to move around instead of having a fucking hectare shot or homing that lets me forget about positioning my ship.

>>6013736
Why are you stealing other people's scores?

>>6013746
>>6013736
For the record this is MaasBiolabs's pic and score that was posted on the shmups forum

>>6013736
And I never said it's a good score :-D
Someone asked for scores so I posted.
However it's a fact that Peace has much more scoring potential.

>>6013749
Head on over to the Salamander thread to see him doing the same thing with R-Type. No skill, no shame.

This thread is a disaster, cant we just talk about arcade games/machines instead of arguing with each other?

embarrassing thread

>>6014167
>>6014180

>>6014167
We could if this board wasnt polluted by butthurt lying consolecucks with an inferiority complex that shit up arcade thread because they got their wittle feefees hurt

>>6013746
Where did he say it's his score? Why you lying.
>>6014950
>ahhh ! Console people are bullying us!!
Stop crying nigger.

>>6012194
>Dead fighting games
Lame

Wish I had friends to play fighters with.

>>6015332
>gets asked to post his score
>posts a score
>I-I didn't mean it was mine!
Are you really this much of a dumbfuck? Or is this damage control

>>6012769
There are like three different arcades in Denver that has Xybots. There are a lot of Virtual-On machines down there for some reason, too.

>>6015353
>Virtual-On

I don't get some people's obsession with this game, it's a fine game but not to the point of obsession like how I hear about people building their own twin sticks.

>>6014985
where can I get this

>>6014167
>>6014180
I get this feeling that it's all just people who were too dumb to set up mame seething at the thought of all these games they missing out on.

>>6015361
I just remember it being one of the most impressive things in the arcade at the time, and the cool twin stick controls plus seats added to the experience.

>>6015415
you're not special for downloading a version of mame that matches the rom set you torrented

>>6015361
you had to be a child walking into an arcade and seeing this enormous nascar-looking machine, then swiftly realize it was actually about gundams fighting and looked sick as fuck in order for the magic to fully take hold

also, an existing autistic obsession with robots may have helped

>>6015494
I never said I was special, but you must have missed the weekly threads we get about people complaining how complicated mame is to set up.
I just don't understand why someone would hate arcade games that much otherwise, they were the best games of their time, both for their technology but also for design. Yeah there's exceptions like shitty belt scrollers that force you to take damage or has a time limit, but that hardly applies to most arcade games.
So the only 2 possibilities left are they can't get mame set up, or they just really suck at the games.

If you truly believe that putting a quarter into an arcade machine is a bigger rip than paying 10 dollars to see White Chicks in theaters, then I think the real problem is with you and your level of skill.

That said, this is 4chan and anyone who says something like that is baiting, thereby detracting from the overall quality of the thread, which makes them a double-nigger.

Real-talk, at the end of the day I'd rather give a quarter to a Jew than another second of my attention to a retarded subhuman zoomer whose tiny mutant FAS peepee can only make c*mmies if he thinks he's causing people to be #upsetonline.

tl;dr: git gud nigger

>>6015551
>quarter

Arcade games are a dollar per play and up now, even in Japan.

>>6015569
arcades aren't real here in burgerland, but gyruss is on free play where I get my hair cut

>ITT: A bunch of kids who weren't around for the arcade era fail to understand arcade games
You went to an arcade with friends, your parents gave you money, you put money in machine for quarters or tokens, you spent the afternoon playing games with your friends that were far superior to what you could play on consoles at the time in terms of graphics and sound. Also, before everyone got computers and went online after 2000, arcades were the main source of multiplayer gaming(playing games with/against strangers) for the majority of people.
>m-m-money
You didn't care back then because it wasn't your money, it was your parents money. And there's no reason to care today, since emulation is free. Biggest non-argument when it comes to playing arcade games.
>quarter munchers!
Quit playing beat-em-ups and shoot-em-ups, try some other arcade genres. Not every game was designed to eat quarters, they were designed to challenge you and all you have to do is git gud. Beat-em-ups and shoot-em-ups had those difficulty spikes specifically to prevent easy wins. Otherwise, a seasoned beat-em-up or shoot-em-up player could 1CC or 2CC a game like that on their first try.

>>6015569
Now you can practice the games easily at home so it doesn't matter

>>6015569
And movie tickets are upwards of twenty bucks nigger, but if you'd shut the fuck up, move out of the basement, get a job and stop being the disgusting parasite you are you might find both are easily affordable when you subsist on more than just welfarebux

>>6015348
>>posts a score
Yes he posted a score. Don't assume more than that, are you new here?

>>6015670
Yup it's damage control alright

>>6015676
>Can't read
>Gets mad
Yup, it's a newfag.

>>6015682
How's it feel knowing that your console trash will always be seen as inferior no matter where you go?

>>6015693
>console
who cares about consoles?
bwr is pc doujin shite lmao are you retarded?

>>6015708
>who cares about consoles?
Nobody who has played arcade games that's for sure

>>6015717
There's like 5 people who are arcade purists who never touch console games, and they all live in your imagination.

>>6015749
Who said anything about never touching? They can sometimes play console games and acknowledge their inferiority while still potentially getting some enjoyment out of. It's just that you'll be very hard pressed to find communities of, say, shmup players who praise console games after getting a full taste of what the arcades have to offer.

>>6015753
>shifting goal posts
>making exceptions and adding fine print
damn you look pathetic now

>>6015749
>There's like 5 people who are arcade purists who never touch console games, and they all live in your imagination.
top kek response

>>6015768
What goalpost shifting? I've always stated they were inferior

>>6015775
>They don't care!
>well they do care a little and I never said they dont continue playing console games!!
Man you suck at this. Like talking to a dumb kid.

>you'll be very hard pressed to find communities of, say, shmup players who
Who continue playing shmups for more than a few years before going back to console games, lmao

>>6015792
Whilst treating said console games like fast food. I thought you didn't care about console games, why the sudden defense tho?

>>6015410
Get MAME or FB Alpha

>>6015998
Where can you find romsets for specific versions of mame? Romsets neet to match mame version.

>>6016001
https://edgeemu.net/
you're welcome

>>6016008
Thanks anon but this only has version .208, do they host older versions?

>>6016008
Looking for complete 0.206 romset cant find it anywhere.

>>6016012
>>6016014
shieeet I don't know guys, I thought this site would have it my bad

>>6016001
>Romsets neet to match mame version.
It's not 100%. Many roms will stay the same between sets, usually only a dozen or so working titles will see any change unless there's a massive change like the QSoundDSP change. Most of the time it's just additional clones being added, which aren't needed unless you really want a complete set of every single clone of a game. For example, going from 0.205 to 0.206, 61 games that actually work had changes or additional clones added. That's out of the over however many thousands of games MAME emulates.

The easiest way to upgrade or downgrade your MAMEset is to audit your currently existing set. Find the games that need updating, and go look for the individual ROMs you need to get everything back to 100%. To downgrade to an older set, find the games that don't match up, and look for "Rollback" romset for MAME which contains all the old and no longer used ROMs. The other option is to redownload the entire goddamn set every time something changes, which is the way most retards who complain about MAME do it.

>>6012197
Gyruss!!!

>>6016012
Why do you need older stuff? Are you just looking to add some titles to your existing collection? What version do you want?

>>6016698
Version 0.206 i am looking for. The romset on archive.org are missing many games for this version.

>>6016823
>Version 0.206 i am looking for.
Why?
There is no reason to use old versions, just get the roms for 215.

>>6012161
All I want is to set up mame for some capcom and neo geo games but I'm too dumb and stupid to figure all this shit out. I put the roms inside the folder but it keeps telling me it's not the right one, the hell's going on here?

>>6016878
MAME Roms need to match mame version.

So if you are using mame 0.215 you need 0.215 roms.

>>6016880

Do sets completely change for every game when there's a new milestone romset, like, I don't get why people say this shit

If you download King of Fighters 98 and the neo geo bios, there's not 215 different versions you could possibly get that you need to specifically match to mame version

I'm convinced anyone who can't get MAME running is full retard or 11 years old

because I figured it out when I was 12

>>6016883
MAME is extremely anal about the way game files are laid out, wanting exact checksums of the latest romdumps, and won't even run a game if it's deemed to be too old. Hence why romsets keep changing or state they're for specific versions of MAME. You would know this if you figured out MAME 6 years ago like you claim.

>>6016878
>All I want is to set up mame for some capcom and neo geo games but I'm too dumb and stupid to figure all this shit out. I put the roms inside the folder but it keeps telling me it's not the right one, the hell's going on here?

1. Make sure romset version and MAME version match for highest compatibility. If you're downloading from a source that doesn't clearly state the every ROM's version, stop doing that and throw out all games you got in this manner. That is just asking for trouble.
2. Get the whole BIOS pack (~100 MB) an install of it.
3. If you have a split romset make sure that for any game you want to play you have the parent ROM installed and not just one of the clones. Those don't run by themselves, they require the parent rom to be present as well. Parent ROMs on the other hand run on their own.
4. For select titles you might need a CHD file to be present in addition to the ROM file. Killer Instinct 1+2, Ray Crisis, Red Earth and Street Fighter 3 are some of the more prominent examples in this category. CHD files each go into separate directory inside your ROM directory and the directories they're in need to be named like the ROM files they belong to. CHD files, just like have ROM files, have their own set and... you guessed it... its version number should match with the rest of you stuff. You rarely need CHDs though and the set is not small.
5. Also don't unpack MAME ROMs. The stay zipped and don't rename them.

If you follow these rules you should have no trouble getting things up and running. Still, there are games that are in the MAME romset but are not playable or run very poorly. Hope this helps.

>>6016912
Oh as an addendum, since you specifically mentioned it, you need the Neo Geo BIOS for titles from that system to run.

>>6016878
If you like shmups check out this list.

https://www.emuparadise.me/list/best-shoot-em-ups-for-mame

>>6016903

Yeah, idk, I've never run into an issue that wasn't easily solvable via google when it came to getting a given game running in MAME.

There's not 50 version specific romsets of King of Fighters 98 and the neo geo bios (for example) and I doubt there is of any other game

It's not that hard and most rom sites will state what set they have uploaded to make it even more straightforward

I'll say it again: If you can't get MAME to work, it's a miracle you can even tie your shoes or successfully navigate a captcha to post on 4chan because you need to be extremely retarded for this to be an actual issue for you

>>6012713
Yeah same,
I love these games, when I saw a UMK3 cab in the flesh, with the whole gamut of players available I nearly shit my pants.

>>6012715
Good taste

For classic arcade staples, I love Bubble Bobble, Elevator Action, Time Pilot and the less common Alien Syndrome. Taito and Sega, baby.
Most arcades I have been too were severely lacking in shmups so all the ones I love I played at home via ports or Mame. Anyone else find this to be the case where they live?
I have always wanted to try Darius 1 or 2 on a real machine. Anybody know of one in the U.S.?

>>6016991
This is just another one of these weirdly paradoxical and entirely worthless posts you made that we have all read a million times before. You got MAME set up - barely by the sound of it. Wow! Good job. And what's the best thing to do with that knowledge? That's right, you go on the internet and shit on those who are newer than you and don't share it with anyone. You have ego problems, dude. Nobody is impressed since it is not that complicated - you said it yourself. Maybe go outside and laugh at an disabled person or something because that seems like a thing you might do and be into. You're certainly not helping with your presence in here and won't be missed I can tell you that much.

Good shumps that look great on a modern widescreen display include:

Gradius
Gradius II
Gradius IV
Salamander
Salamander 2
R-Type
R-Type 2
R-Type Leo
Darius Gaiden
Metal Black

And the capcom ones:

Forgotten Worlds
UN Squadron
Carrier Air Wing
Gigawing (Takumi)
Mars Matrix (Takumi)
Progear (Cave)
1944 loop master
Eco Fighters

No black bars with these games.

>>6017137
Oh and Dragon Breed and X-Multiply (IREM)

>>6017137
Neo Geo also has some shmups but they are not as good imo.

Sonic Wings 2
Sonic Wings 3
Alpha Mission 2
Pulstar
Blazing Star
Last Resort

>>6017048

>Waaaah, waaaah, so mean!!! Just a big meanie!!

Gb2 reddit, dumbass

Anyways, more on topic -

My favorite arcade games are mostly rhythm games and 3D driving stuff that's not easily emulatable without a good PC.

That fits into the criteria of this board though, basically the whole Sega Model 2 and 3 catalog is amazing. Model 2 stuff is fairly widely ported but Model 3 at least Supermodel does a decent job that I can recall, it's been a while. Scud Race/Sega Super GT is still just jawdropping today, really euphoric experience.

NFL Blitz 99, 2000 might be the funnest sports games ever made idk.

Street Hoop on neo geo is a good competitor though, I always liked it more than the floaty physics of NBA Jam, the music is amazing too.

Windjammers on neo geo is one of the best multiplayer games ever simply because I've never seen anyone who's seen it and played it for more than 5 seconds not instantly love it and get hooked, and anyone can immediately be competitive and things can get really hype with a group of people playing, really fast.

For shmups, I've been playing a lot of Soukyugurentai lately. I think ST-V is emulated OK in mame? But it has psx/saturn ports too. I like it's heavy handed moody atmosphere and 90s anime cheese aesthetic with excessive plastering of kanji all over the screen in transitional screens, I say these things in a positive way. Also like how they made it a vertical scroller that fills the screen and makes use of the extra side to side space with it's shooting system.

A fighter I feel like gets underrated is Power Instinct 2, and the arcade version is the only proper one really, PSX really nerfs the backgrounds. It's just weird and kind of ugly and has great music, fighting physics feel hard hitting and satisfying, etc. Always a pleasure to play.

Played this for on and off in week long bursts where I'd play a game each day just for fun. It's totally worth dropping a buck into this machine and having a blast for a good dozen minutes. It was this exact super deluxe machine, with working wheel/pedal/shift and a seat that throws you around quite realistically during turns and jumps, except it probably won't explode. It looked and sounded like a spectacle on that huge ass screen too.

I found it by luck in a local glorified gambling den that also has some real arcade games. I never saw anyone else playing it, ever. Like most of the arcadey games, except the pool tables I guess. I eventually got into the top 10, I think 4, or 7 was the best, Maybe both, I had at least two entries, but I'm not sure. I wanted to fill the whole list eventually, but found they had gotten rid of it one day. The workers I asked didn't even know it had existed when I asked where it's gone. Fuck that place.

>>6017727
Sega Rally 3 btw

need help remembering an old arcade game. It was multiplayer, and I think a scrolling squad shooter. 3 or 4 player, with each player designated a color. Had a sci-fi marine theme but fuck if I can remember it.

actually beat this one in the arcade

>>6015531
I honestly do wish MAME was easier to just get going. I've made 3 attempts over the years and in each attempt a spent a few hours trying to troubleshoot why it wouldn't run before giving up in sheer frustration. No other emulation platform is even remotely as obtuse as it.

>>6017016
Usually arcades I went to had a couple shmups, but never a big selection so I've always mostly played them on Mame or consoles too. Local arcade just had Raiden Fighters before it closed, maybe one other shmup. I don't remember seeing a Darius machine near me ever.

Though shmups were popular here as cabinets outside arcades for a while. Movie theater had DoDonPachi, pizza place had Cyvern of all things.

>>6012161
The ones where I can open up the service door and lower the fucking volume right then and there. I've only started working at an arcade for like 4 months and these games never have the correct volume balances whenever I clock in.

Hang On

>>6016912
Thanks, I was able to find the packs for my version off of archive and get it working. Actually playing through Metal Slug X right now while it's finishing up downloading the ones I picked.

>>6020056
>endless video tutorials
>a gui-based auditing software
>no other emulation is this hard
Amazing. Don't try to emulate an SGI workstation, you'll never get it running.

For anyone who wants to get MAME working and doesn't know how, here's an easy way:
1. Google mame romset, you'll probably find the best sets on internet archive. Get the most recent version. ROMs should be in .zip format, and the less than 100 CHD games require a .CHD file or two in a folder named the exact same as the .zip with the game ROMs.
2. Download that version of MAME, or whatever frontend you wanna use. MAME has mouse support and filters these days, so I just use MAME.
3. Download the latest version of RomCenter, I think it's 4.0rc4 or something these days, dunno.
4. Point RomCenter at your copy of MAME to create a .DAT of all the roms it supports.
5. Point RomCenter at all your roms. Scan.
6. Is everything green? It's as complete and working as it will get. Something yellow? It has the right files or the right files are available from another rom in your collection. Right click and choose FIX.
7. ROMs are Red? You're missing shit son. Look at the ROM. What files are missing? Google that CRC32 hash for that missing file. You should find a download link in the results. Add that to your collection, re-scan, repeat 6-7 until everything is green. Add the full .zip, don't bother adding individual files.

PRO MODE:
Wanna "downgrade" your ROMs to an older version of MAME? Try looking for a "Rollback" romset for a MAME version close to your existing romset. Add the rollback .zip's for whatever games don't match the .DAT of the older MAME version.
Wanna upgrade from release to release but don't have access to private torrent sites? Google "MAME (XXX) roms sooner" where (XXX) is the version you are updating to. Only good for 10-ish most recent updates, they pull the older stuff eventually.

>>6020492
cont.

So if you wanna go from 0.212 to 0.215, download 0.215 MAME, get the DAT, then google "MAME 0.213 roms sooner", get the games that RomCenter shows as needing stuff, then do it again with 0.214, and 0.215.

If you are updating often, you may find benefit from using a "merged" romset, which has every clone and variant plus needed BIOS files for each game within a single .zip for that game. By default this will force all your games to the parent version, but that's not really an issue unless you wanted all spanish language releases or something. Even then you can just rename that .zip to the variant/clone you wanted to play, and it will work just fine.
If you don't update often, you'll probably want to stick with a normal "split" romset, since the majority of changes to the romsets is adding more clones/variants of games, which you don't NEED in order to actually play the parent or any already existing clones/variants. This way the majority of your roms won't need updating between revisions.

>>6020056

Don't overthink it

If you're on Windows i like MameUIFX, you can use shaders with it etc pretty easily

Mac, I've used SDLMame lots, retroarch is another easy way but I hate using that program with a keyboard so ymmv

Dont get a whole romset. You don't need to and It's stupid. You will end up with a bunch of space taken up by a shit ton of variant roms, shovelware you'll never play and stuff that is not yet playable or not at good speeds by anything but a god tier pc due to its method of emulation which is not meant to be efficient.

MameUI will list info for everything so from there.. I want to play 3rd Strike.

Type 3rd strike into the search. This will show you what the parent rom is and all the variants available. I personally opted to just use the No-CD version, which is a variant of the main 3rd strike. So, google "sf3iii.zip" or whatever the actual name is. Get that and put it in your rom folder, and because I want to play the no cd version, whatever the .zip for that variant is.

For some reason it seems like a lot of people get confused and just download the no cd rom which is probably like 1MB and then REEEE when it doesn't work because they didnt put 2 and 2 together that 3rd strike is probably bigger than 1MB so they come on 4chan and make a thread about

>WHY IS MAME SO FUCKING HARD ALL THESE FUCKKING CLONE ROMS I JUST WANT TO PLAY STREET FIGHTER!!!!

Once theyre in your roms folder, try to run it. If it works, great, if not, take note of what it tells you is missing and just google "XX.01 not found" or w/e it tells you and someone has probably already asked that question somewhere for you to find what you actually need

Rinse and repeat for everything else. Neo geo I think theres been a few different bios sets over time but again, Google.

This has worked flawlessly for me since 2003 and I am passing on this time honored, protected wizard knowledge to you and all so that reddit fag who called me an elitist meanie can calm down now

Any other good arcade games with RPG elements like stats and experience besides pic related?

>>6021512
..>Capcom CPS2:

Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom

Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara

..>Capcom CPS1:

Magic Sword: Heroic Fantasy

Theres also Cadash, i think the PC Engine version is the best.

>>6021512
Mars Matrix, Batsugun, Psyvariar

>>6021512
>>6021531
Both the Dungeons and Dragons games were re-released on different platforms as Chronicles of Mystara.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/229480/Dungeons__Dragons_Chronicles_of_Mystara/

>>6021531
>..>Capcom CPS1:
Wouldn't King of Dragons and Knights of the Round also qualify?

>>6021667
Yes

>>6021512
Konami's Gaiapolis

>>6021512
Cadash.

for me its CAVE

>>6023640
ikeda shmups are lame.

>dude, what if... we made the bullets slower and have more faggy patterns and colours? also, let's pander to degenerate otakus while we're at it with cringey waifushit
>GENIUS!

>>6023653
Getting so hung up on aesthetics whilst ignoring top class gameplay is p feminine lad

>>6023759
Liking pink and purple vomit is also p feminine, mate.

>top class gameplay
Lmao, this is what Cavecucks actually believe.

>slow as molasses bullets
>slowdowns out the ass due to bad coding
>shitty ideas for scoring systems like enemy chaining

yeah, i'm thinking cave sucks

>>6023786
>deepest, most competitive shmups on the market beloved by casuals and best players alike
>not top class

>>6023816
>slow as molasses bullets
Meme, play DOJ
>slowdowns out the ass
Another meme, play DOJ
>shitty ideas for scoring systems like enemy chaining
Cope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI9JmPmO4B0

BASED ben out with his new rayforce superplay

>>6023836
why are cave haters so easy to bait?
I think they just want to show off how contrarian they are but don't actually want to play, hence why they are attracted to arcades to begin with.

>>6023915
We just enjoy better shmups is all.

Why do Cavefags get triggered when someone doesn't suck Ikeda's cock?

cave is what 2hufags gravitate to when they get tired of 2hu because it's most similar to their first exposure to shmups.

see: jaimers, bnm, chum, and countless other degenerates.

>>6023936
Along with everyone else who's skilled and is looking for the best of the best, even Cave's biggest haters end up caveing and accepting Guwange as the ultimate shmup

Lmao imagine hating on cave like some edgelord faggot as if they don't have the undisputed best shmup catalog by a mile and didnt singlehandedly put the genre on their back and keep people interested for years

>>6024146
But [insert random dadshit] is so much better that's why nobody plays and why I haven't touched it since getting the kusoclear if even that

>>6013096
tfw one of them is his mom

>>6024146
Actually cave killed shmups with their autistic and cringe bullet hell bullshit.

why mame emulation is so shit bruhs

>>6017730
this game has amazing graphics. makes the GT games look like crap.

>>6024189
How come Cavebros are the most commited stg players then and often take the time to explore and crush dadshit in between big boy games?

>>6024196
Jaimers got stuck on a Dogyuun boss. So much for Caveniggers being able to easily crush "dadshit".

>>6024196
Because they're loser faggots? Don't you guys have a thread on /vg/ you can fuck off to and talk about non-retro crap all you want?

>>6024206
>effortlessly crushes Dadsujin, Dadden, Dad-Type, Dadius, Dadsugun, DadForce and more
>quits some mediocre game once on stream
>WE DID IT BROS JAIMERS BTFO WHO'S UP FOR SOME WEEKEND BBQ AT MY PLACE I CAN SHOW YOU FELLAS MY HISHOUZAME SKILLS AND FINALLY GET TO 1-6

>>6024207
>non-retro
Everything up to Mushi is 100% /vr/

XYBOTS was just epic for me at the time, the controls just gave it this extra dimension lol

I've noticed most people who hate on cave and bullet hell love the same old slow hori shooters. It's almost guaranteed that their favourite shmup is r-type or gradius, if not it's some obscure shit no one cares about.

>>6024246
im not a big fan of bullet hell games.. i can handle the odd level/boss encounter in that style but a protracted game of that alone is not my style...

yes i enjoy R-Type

>>6024207
Pathetic shmup schmucks can't even keep their /vg/ thread bumped, and when they tried moving it to here they got purged for shitposting. LOL!

Do bios files change between versions? I only got .213 bios files and want to update without rooting around for them again.

>>6024696
I think Q-Sound added a DSP file a little while back, but usually BIOS files remain the same from the day they originally got dumped. The only other exception I can think of is some hard to dump chips got properly dumped, but I think those were game specific like Operation Wolf, and not part of the general BIOS pack.

Easiest way to check is to audit.

>>6024246

Based, sums it up perfectly. Like I understand (and encourage) shitting on touhou but you gotta be a galaxy brain contrarian to hate on ketsui, doj etc

>go to local chain movie theater
>they have put in a Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter cabinet, of all things, since the last time I went
>sticks are beat to fuck

>>6024820
>ketsui, doj
garbage. why not mention a good cave shump like pic related.

>>6024892

That one's good too

On a different topic, what's worse, anons?

>No arcades anymore at all

>The ones in NA that still exist with /vr/ content are mostly cringy "barcades" that mostly stock casual-tier 80's american games

An arcade finally opened in my city 10 years after the original one closed, and it's basically just aimed at 40 somethings who remember the glory days of missile command, centipede, etc.

They do a good job of restoring these 30+ year old cabinets and shit and it's cool from a historical aspect I guess but I'm pissed off that this is probably the only one we're ever gonna get again and I gotta pretend to want to play Frogger to have a good time going there

>>6024917
Haven't had a chance to go yet, but Round One seems cool at least. Still pissed they closed the last arcade in my city and replaced it with a lounge with some TVs and consoles.

>>6012275
I think he meant that as a good thing? IDK

>>6024945

Round 1 is cool if you like rhythm games, at the very least. Tbh maybe its' just me getting older but even when I went to Japan a couple years ago I was happy to see big arcades as a regular sight but even there the decline is evident and saddening. Sitdown/crt cabs are mostly relegated to a small retro corner in game centres, a lot of new arcade games have like premium pay-to-unlock type aspects to them, lots of rehashed anime cash-in games etc (though that's always been a thing)

>>6024892
>good cave shump
Cave games are not shmups.

>>6026235
based.

>stop by /v/ because bored
>find this in a agdg thread
Pic related.

>I'm writing a mame launcher suited for my tastes because every single one I tried either didn't have functions I need or is bloated with useless shit.
>shows only roms you have, can be parsed by favorite list or other lists. This means no drivers, mechanical games etc, because nobody sane would keep them on their game list. I know progetto snaps helps with this, but still.
>doesn't show hundreds of tabs for every single available photo of cabinet, panel, pcb, etc
>shows only the most important things at once - rom list, title screen and gameplay snapshot
>doesn't include ricer shit like picture backgrounds for window, icons for roms, retarded and ugly gui like for example MAMEUI
>does something I haven't found in other frontends - horizontal games have screens presented in horizontal layout and vertical games have screenshots in vertical layout.

>There's a big chance it'll crash and burn outside of my pc, but here we go.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nh7p3qtmto11egu/umm.zip/file
>unzip this to your mame directory, so umm.exe is in the same folder as mame.exe
>It's slow as fuck and can only read contents of your mame directory and its subfolders. Expect bugs, but it's fully functional if you know what you're doing.

>>6026235
>Cave games are not shmups.
Correct, cave arcade games were actually fun

>danmaku

>>6026772
Which danmaku filtered you?

>>6026789
have sex danmakuck

Treasure > Cave

>>6026934
this but somewhat ironically

>>6026934
Kraut pls go.

>>6026731
>Cave
>Fun
Nope.

Cave is awful. Pretty patterns and flashing lights do not make a good shmup.

>>6027053
>cope
damn you got filtered HARD.

>>6027071
ok 2hutranny.

most people who shit on cave don't even play shmups let alone arcade games

most people who overrate cave don't even play non-cave shmups let alone other arcade genres besides stg

>>6027642
>check Cavebros clears
>huge variety of games from all time periods
>check Cave hater's clears
>empty or only entry level consoleshit

idk about that

>>6027649
>Gus, only plays Cave
>MarkMSX, only plays Cave
>Bananafag, only played Cave
>Iconoclast, only plays Cave
>Jaimers, only plays Cave

Need I go on

>>6027664
>shitting on some of the best western players to grace the genre while you are a literal who who doesn't even have a 2-all

>>6027664
>MarkMSX
Plays a wide variety of modern shmups, raizing, doujins like ZeroRanger etc
>Bananafaget
Played a ton of games, Raizing, Psyvariar, Psikyos, Raiden, etc
>clast
Also tons of games, big Raiden fan with good scores in Fighters
>Jaimers
Cleared tons of old school shmups, had westie records in classics like Rayforce

E Z
Now where are Cave haters with such interests and accomplishments?

>>6027685
Better to be a literal who than an attention-whoring cavedrone.

>>6027687
>Plays a wide variety of modern shmups, raizing, doujins like ZeroRanger etc
He was awful at Batrider on stream.
>indieshit that tries to be Cave
Lmao.

>Bananafaget
>Played a ton of games, Raizing, Psyvariar, Psikyos, Raiden, etc
He hated Psikyo though, and pretty much anything that wasn't Cave-like.

>Also tons of games
Besides Sailor Moon, not really.
>big fan of Raiden
Hasn't even looped I, II or IV.

>Cleared tons of old school shmups, had westie records in classics like Rayforce
"had" because 99% of his playtime goes towards obsessing over Caveshit.

Could you possibly suck their dicks any harder, you giant faggot.

>>6027819
>they didn't do x and y
That's fine since neither have you, they achieved more in non-Cave games regardless which makes their opinions more educated and thus worth more.
>"had" because 99% of his playtime goes towards obsessing over Caveshit.
That's simply because Cave games are the best, deepest, most competitive and most challenging around

>having an OK thread about arcade games
>some faggot shows up to rant and rave about how he hates cave
Kinda telling this faggot has spent more time ranting about hating cave than talking about retro games he actually likes.

>>6027964
It's probably the anti-treasurefag

>cool thread starts
>obvious troll jumps in at some point
>people can't resist replying to it and/or troll samefags his own replies
>thread goes to shit
Every single time. Fuck this board.

>>6028006
Treasure is based compared to shitty ass weaboo bullet autism caveshit.

>>6023816
don't forget hitboxes the size of a cave fanboy's penis

Is there a single good player who hates Cave? Can't think of anyone desu

>>6028094
the mars matrix guy
cee sort of

>>6028097
Also KBT

>>6028097
>the mars matrix guy
He said that DDP deserved its spot as the best shmup ever
>cee sort of
One of the biggest Guwange players in the west who also scored Esprade hates CAVE? DOUBT

>>6028101
Guwange player who also plays Cave knockoffs like Crimzon Clover. It's amazing how all these "hardcore Cave haters" end up loving Cave games after exhausting lesser titles, isn't it.

>>6028108
According to him he only learned guwange to btfo cee and CCWI to btfo danmakucks, but his favourite shmups are Treasure's and IREM's and Taito's.

>lesser titles
This is why nobody likes you Cave shitheads.

C'mon guys surely there's some good Cave haters out there...it can't just be shitters can it...?

>>6028115
>According to him he only learned guwange to btfo cee
He explicitly said this wasn't the case, and played for quite a while after beating Cee's score, calling the game his favorite! Interesting isn't it? Very interesting...

>>6028103
>He said that DDP deserved its spot as the best shmup ever
[citation needed]
>One of the biggest Guwange players in the west who also scored Esprade hates CAVE? DOUBT
then explain why he'd shit on cave back at shmupg

>>6028131
>[citation needed]
https://youtu.be/rbts2qTrbAg?t=42
>then explain why he'd shit on cave back at shmupg
Burnt out, he quit gaming afterall

>>6028116
trap15 lol

>>6028147
Even brap is suspect, guy proudly displays a Reco pillow and is responsible for that Keksui arrange mode style romhack

Kusoplayers and dads HATE him

>>6028157
Back to your /shmupg/ containment thread, oh wait your cavetard circlejerk general can't sustain enough posts to stay alive lmfao.

>>6028172
I wouldn't be mocking shmupg for that if I were you considering /vr/, an extremely slow board, can't sustain shmup threads without us

>>6015335
maybe if you werent so negative you'd be in a different position? all of those games are alive and well on fightcade and fgc arcadia discord for naomi games. xvsf is the least populated one on fc with an average of maybe 2 ppl on at a time.

>>6028140
>https://youtu.be/rbts2qTrbAg?t=42
Obvious sarcasm was obvious.

>Burnt out, he quit gaming afterall
Yet he wouldn't shit on Raizing or any other shumps he was playing right before he quit.
Strange, isn't it...

>>6027649
>>6027664
>>6027687
>>6027819
I can't believe the fucking e-celeb cancer is spreading here too.

>>6028730
What, you haven't seen all the stealth e-celeb threads? "I just picked up this game from a yard sale(that some e-celeb recently made a video about). What am I in for?"

>>6028667
>Obvious sarcasm was obvious.
It's the most genuine he's ever sounded
>Yet he wouldn't shit on Raizing
He shat on Battle Garegga, the only Raizing game that matters

Look at you, so desperate to find non-shitter Cave haters you use guys who play Caves and even paid for Keksui dumps

bullet hell is for the mentally ill.

>>6028730
>he hasn't seen AVGN, Arino and Dendy Chronicles threads that were staples since this board's early years
Now THOSE are some ecelebs, these are just players

>>6028730
Competitive players of video games are not e-celebs. You are trying to hard to fit in.

>>6029479
>arino
>e-celeb
Doesn't become true no matter how much you repeat it.
>e-celeb threads
>board staples
Why lie when anyone can view the archives and see they always get deleted?