/vr/ - Retro Games

>start a game of Pokemon Silver at 9 pm
>"9 PM? I overslept!"

Being a child and part of a world in which Pokemon was more real than a game was something else: the advertisements, the rumors going around, buying the Nintendo monthly just for the Pokemon supplement.

Now I wonder what made the game as popular. The monster design? The feeling around exploring the world in search of Pokemon?

>>5996381
#NEETlife

I was thinking the same thing.
Good ol' retro Pokemon. Don't make 'em like they used tah.

We should have gotten this Girafarig, but almost every other design deserved to be cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRm1zsv2v6M

>>5996560
Marketing. Not that it's a bad game of course, but the massive marketing campaign is what made it the cultural phenomenon that it was.

>>5996626
By that argument it should be really easy to replicate, but in practice ...

>>5996631
Congrats, you don't have shit for brains. "It's nostalgia"-type posters are retards.

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>>5996641
I'm the same age as Chris-Chan and marginally less autistic so I never understood why people liked it so much, same as DBZ. I like SMT which seems like kinda the same deal but for pokomans they have to brainwash you at an impressionable age.

>>5996725
Shin Megami Tensei is inferior mechanically to Pokemon and has no appeal as a pet simulator at all, which is where a large part of Pokemon's appeal comes from. The reason why Persona does better than SMT is because, like Pokemon, it has value for self-insertion into an attractive world, where SMT does not.

I don't have too much to add other than I really like the games, and Gen 1 competitive battling is hilariously broken and ridiculous, but it makes me love it more.

I also hate that people constantly shill Crystal Clear as being a definitive experience. It's just more embarrassing self insert wish fulfillment on the behalf of the author. Everything Crystal Clear does well is in spite of the main "developer".

>>5996615
do NOT save this image. I heard it will corrupt your win32 file.

>>5996615
IMAGINE
if you could have used a ghost Pokémon to possess a skeleton in the Pewter City Museum. Your own skeletal Kabutops.

>>5996638
This would be awesome if properly implemented as a concept.

I'm going to be "that faggot" and say Pokémon should have ended with Generation III, but that Gen I and II had the best designs, overall. I'm still mad Gen II wasn't remade for the GBA.

>>5996801
ok boomer

>>5996795
you mean sorta like they're trying to do now
they did it in unova though

>>5996801
gonna have to lay out what it takes for a design to be top tier
you could be a sucker for shonen-bait for all we know, which is an almost instant invalidator of opinion

>>5996615
Missingno. is my favorite Pokemon.

Am I the only one who caught him and used him regularly in battle?

>>5996773
He never corrupted my save data.

>>5996816
>shonen-bait
What's shonen-bait? Is it like shota?

>>5996809
I'm 26.
>>5996816
Where powerful Pokémon (Rhyhorn, Nidoking, Charizard) look serious business instead of total faggots, and where cute Pokémon look cute instead of looking like walking plushes.

>>5996819
Pokemon whose appeal comes from how cool they are supposed to be.
Golisopod is shonen-bait. Excadrill is shonen-bait. There is a chuuni nature to how they were designed.

>>5996825
ok zoomer

>>5996335
For purposes of reference.

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>>5996836
Who knew removing colors could add so much pure, unadulterated soul?

>>5996825
>Where powerful Pokémon (Rhyhorn, Nidoking, Charizard) look serious business instead of total faggots
So I take it you only like Aggron, Metagross, and Salamence.

>>5996827
Those both look lame as hell. Are Gyarados, Gengar, Alakazam, Charizard, and Mewtwo shonen-bait? They're all pretty cool.

Spheal is my favorite Gen 3 "cute" Pokemon. I love that roly poly little ball of blubber.

>>5996841
>Those both look lame as hell
because they weren't made to be intricate
one is a bipedal shrimp in samurai armor, and the other is a black and red mole with serrated razors on its body that form a drill when it curls into a ball.
The negligence of making chimeras that resemble creatures more unfamiliar than familiar, and being subtle with human inspirations, started fading out in Unova designs.
>Gyarados
It's cool but it's more monstrous than pandering.
>Gengar
No, it's too goofy, like the whole line is.
>Alakazam
No, it's weird.
>Charizard
Yeah, but not excessively.
>Mewtwo
No.

>>5996843
It's legitimately a good design because it presents itself as a ball, and is indeed a ball. Sphere seal. Nothing gets done with that as it evolves but it had its own thing going, which cannot be said of most Pokemon.

>>5996852
Yeah, I never liked how the evolution stripped the ball design and basically just made it a very generic looking walrus. Shame.

Fearow > Pidgeot

>>5996840
What? Look at this picture >>5996836
Blaziken, Swampert, Mightyena, Shiftry, Swellow, Vigoroth, Ninjask, Loudred, Sharpedo, Cacturne, Seviper, Crawdaunt, Glalie, that fat seal, Hauntail, Groudon, Rayquaza... Gen III had its fair share of badasses.

>>5996854
you're not giving them enough credit; GameFreak used to fool us very well into thinking that Pokemon were one-to-one with real life creatures, but if you look at Walrein for example, you realize it is not bald nor is its body very long, both traits of walrus, and that there was another source of inspo or else they took creative liberties with the design

it's not actually a generic walrus at all, but it feels that way and that's something somewhat intriguing; many of the mundane mons of the early gens are actually not straight-up copies of real life animals

>>5996862
Wasn't counting legendaries, and most of those aren't powerful.
But based on this list, I'm not even sure what you'd consider lame other than something like Goodra. If you like Snorlax, you shouldn't mind Slaking.

>>5996863
I think you’re reading to much into the original designs man. They are just rips of real life things with a twist. There was no subversion being attempted

>>5996865
I love Snorlax and Slaking, but they aren't exactly "menacing" Pokémon. Look at Manectric, on the other hand: his design is retarded.

>>5996869
You're not reading into them enough.
Pic related is an actual slapjob.

>>5996873
>Look at Manectric, on the other hand: his design is retarded.
I agree wholeheartedly. But I think it had to do with how it and Electrike were drawn.
But according to your standard, I think, you should be inclined to say Sinnoh had designs on par with or better than Kanto and Johto's---you have Garchomp and Abomasnow that are serious and will wreak havoc menacingly; far less light-hearted than most of Kanto with few exceptions like Gyarados.

Anyway, I'm just pushing back because I'm trying to suss out what standard other people are using when they say this design is bad or this one is great---see how solid the rubric is.

>>5996882
Why does this image make me want to kill myself

>>5996884
Looks like it all went downhill by 2002

>>5996881
My problem with Gen IV and on is that most of the designs I like are those based on earlier Pokémon (evolutions and pre-evolutions). Here is a chart of Gen IV without any of those pre and evos. In a minute I'll post another with only the Pokémons I like.

>>5996883
Cuz you know it's gone forever, of course, and that it's time to move on soon.
You recall the memories of bliss, and that clashes sharply with the present despair.

The way I see it, even if you haven't moved on from Pokemon yet, you can still acknowledge yourself as an adult that is fully capable of producing themselves---that there is no need to remain a perpetual consumer that entirely relies on others for the generation of content.

>>5996893
Obligatory starter Pokémons (even though I don't like any of them, minus Turtwig, Piplup and Empoleon).

>>5996890
for me, following 2004, with the 2016 fluke excepting

>>5996901
I see where you're coming from for the most part, and respect it well enough, but a few of these cuts are a bit silly: Heatran, Snover line, and Hippowdon.

>>5996898
Honestly, it's less the fact it's Pokémon related, and more the fact that I will never be a carefree child just enjoying life and genuinely being excited over learning and growing instead of a soulless husk who spends all their time facetiously arguing points they don't even care about on an anonymous imageboard. I don't know how to feel like a fulfilled person anymore.

>>5996901
Proof that every Pokemon is someone's favorite: this guy likes accordion head and shield face.

>>5996914
I see.
>I don't know how to feel like a fulfilled person anymore.
Again, I think it's because you haven't yet taken the step into being a person who creates others' childhoods, or at least helps your cohort relive yours'. Consider creating something you can share with the world.

>>5996917
not him, but
Sheldon line is actually more admirable than Cranidos's
You're talking about Drapion? Yeah I think that's overrated too.

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>>5996747
Well, that's your opinion. I self-insert into a world where nukes killed everyone, I have a pet succubus, and I'm allied with Satan.

>>5996914
>I will never be a carefree child just enjoying life and genuinely being excited over learning and growing
Sometimes I wonder how you people with happy childhoods even wash up here.

>>5996962
In some ways, I think it's because I had a happy childhood that I ended up here. I was coddled and taught so many things that just do not apply. I grew up and was immediately immersed and surrounded by the horrors of the world I was sheltered from. I didn't get the chance to grow used to it or see it as normal, it all just suddenly hit me. It absolutely ruined my perception of the world as an inherently good place with good people living in it.

>>5996962
Got something for you.

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Can someone please tell me the name of this Pokemon hack? Been searching forever

>>5996927
I see stuff like that and the other related pictures and I really wish GameFreak would've released a Pokemon game on the SNES or something. Something like Pokemon Coliseum with wild encounters. There's a lot of details in these pictures that I don't think would fit on an SNES cart, and I think there might be a few too many colors between all these images, but the idea is so well illustrated in these. Pokemon Red came out the same year as the N64 though, and I doubt GameFreak had any delusions of making a console version for their hot new IP on a soon-to-be-dated piece of hardware.

>>5996982
I don't think Game Freak has competent enough artists to have pulled something like that off.

>>5996980
There is, unfortunately, absolute 0.00000000000001% chance that this is a playable game. It's just really pretty pixel art. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong. But I don't think I will be.

>>5996980
what do you imagine it'd be like?
i like to see speculation

>>5996982
>>5996983
>being this entitled

>>5996997
How is acknowledging incompetence entitlement? I don't think they could have done it. Their pixel artwork is generally very lackluster and very behind the times. Prove me wrong.

>>5996984
But does it have a name though?

>It's just really pretty pixel art.

But I thought I saw videos of it circulating a while back? I'd be sad if that were true...

>>5996983
Gamefreak has proven time and time again that aside from Pokemon, which never really changed at its core in 20 years, they're a mediocre game development studio at best

Just look at how Little Town Hero got panned

>>5997001
Umm, have graphics, incel.

>>5996997
>asking for good games is entitlement
It's because of people like you that we get mobile games instead of good main series entries

>>5996983
ok boomer

>>5997004
The graphics you showed me are pretty average. Not really anything special. Them belonging to a game you liked doesn't change that, nostalgiafag.

>>5996962
>Well, that's your opinion. I self-insert into a world where nukes killed everyone, I have a pet succubus, and I'm allied with Satan.

This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRPMzHG7-Kg

>>5997032
Best Pokemon generation desu baka senpai

>>5997009
ok boomer

>>5996747
I wouldn't really call pokemon much of a "pet simulator". Each pokemon really serves as a mute party member in a jrpg, there really isn't any "simulator" aspect beyond a few superficial and optional gimmicks.

>>5996630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7PIXFAWeLk&t=5m56s

imagine this in film

>>5997070
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7PIXFAWeLk&t=296s

>>5997070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=296&v=y7PIXFAWeLk

>>5997025
>genderless
the cherry on top

>>5996801
Gen 4 is the weakest, but gen 5 to the present are great, so nah

>>5997345
ok boomer

>>5997372
Please go back to Facebook.

>>5996725
It was a game on an inexpensive video gane system that appealed to the still prevalent "collect all 'x' of 'y'!" marketing strategy that also promoted the idea that everyone was free to play it and that all of your favorites were equally cool and usable. Mix in the fact that all the big toy-focused franchises from the 80s had finally taken a breather and you had something that was genuinely unique poised to take the world by storm.

>>5996817
You can’t possibly think you’re the only one curious enough to catch and use him. Of course I did.

>>5996335
Based. I love a lot of modern and retro games alike but one place where I'm a filthy nostalgiafag and proud of it is Pokemon.
Especially now that they're deadset on gutting all content and features from every new release. It's poetic that Gen II was such a massive addition and improvement over Gen I, and the remakes of Gen II have now become the peak of massive amounts of content and features as every release after them has removed shit or gone one step forward and two steps back.
They literally just take advantage of Pokemon selling itself now and can get away with anything. I've never felt more comfortable going backwards in a gaming franchise before.

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>>5996827
You're trying to start a new trendy phase and it shows.

>/vp/ is shit
>let's post good pokemans-stuff outside of /vp/
bold strategy

>>5996817
I literally don't know a single kid who didn't catch one and didn't duplicate rare candy. I also don't know anyone who had their save file fucked up. Was it just Game Freak/Nintendo propaganda?

>>5997025
this image makes me anxious.

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>tfw Game Freak could make a sprite based MMO Pokemon game in this retro style with every 'mon cross playable on PC, Mobile, and Nintendo Switch with relative ease, and update it regularly (the developers would just have to make more 2d sprites, backdrops, events, items, characters and locations. I know that it's a lot of work but it's a fraction of the work a 3d Pokemon mmo would be.)

The popularity of games like Minecraft proves that, young and old, people don't mind blocky graphics in their games. They could make a dream Pokemon game that would run effortlessly and easily become the highest grossing game ever what with in game purchases since making the game free to play would probably be the most profitable model. It would probably be the most profitable game relative to how easy it was to make ever, considering that most of the work is done for them, the Pokemon, gameplay style, types, moves, regions and general system is already there for them. I'm sure there's talk about a Pokemon MMO but as we all know Game Freak and Nintendo are mind-numbingly autistic when it comes to everything, but particularly blatantly profitable ideas that enter the realm of the internet and are frequently associated with fan-created content. Plus I still really believe that they're anti RPG in general from the Hiroshi Yamauchi days. Oh, well. Biggest blunder and loss of money ever in video games that you never hear about.

>>5996836
>up to this day, Primal Groudon still doesn't have a 8bit sprite

>>5997439
or maybe you just haven't been around long enough

>>5997561
AAIIIGHHH!!! MY EYES!

God, I love all the soul that radiates from Gen 2.

>>5997058
I agree and disagree. We were just coming off the tail of the tamagotchi craze, and that was definitely part of the apeal for me.
On the other hand, they must have done something right, because digimon couldn't make quite the same leap when they had basically been proto-pokemon tamagotchi.

>>5996605
RIP Tentaquil.

>>5996835
Would have been a baby doduo, and thus pointless, but I like the nest with feet and three heads.
The weakest chick usually dies, so kinda works.

>>5998038
lmao

>>5996914
>just enjoying life and genuinely being excited over learning and growing
Lmfao Im thirty and now more than ever this describes my life. You choose to be a soulless husk, anon; and after so much time as that person, you're now too weak to choose something else

>>5998332
Kicking a guy while he's down is far more soulless.

>>5998332
ok boomer

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>>5996831
The GBC sprites are so fucking kino. I don't know why, but I like them way more than anything that came out afterwards.

>>5996813
How?

>>5996873
>Look at Manectric, on the other hand: his design is retarded.
His normal design is okay, the mega on the other hand...

>>5996602
Corpish is peak design.

>>5996884
Conquest has dope art, but apparently no Venusaur.

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>>5996982
The one SNES game they did release is actually rather pretty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1T7-7AXl2Y

>>5996983
Gamefreaks 2D art team are decent enough. Their 3D is more questionable, due lack of practice and pragmatism.

>>5998897
GBC has really good color palette. And Pocket Monsters got a lot of leeway from being a Gameboy game at first ,meaning its fine if sprites are Black and White if they don't need the extra artistic value.
The end result is that the Pokemon gets A LOT of good shades and dithering, on top of a lot of really good poses.

Had they been more sensible, they would have kept more of the stronger palette for Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, since full palette range isn't as appealing as a really good palette.

>>5999002
Pokemon has some fantastic art, especially on the cards. My ideal pokemon game would be a 2D style pokemon game but instead of sprites, everything is hand drawn in Sugimori's watercolor style. Arita's art is amazing too.

>>5999005
>Hyper Beam
>20
Ah, the good old days

>>5998897
>His normal design is okay, the mega on the other hand...
Actually I thought the Mega design looked far better, as long as you toned down its gigantic fur.

>>5996836
By keeping it simple, these colours really bring out the designs of these Pokémon.

>>5998912
Is this where the dumb "Charizard was always intended to have one horn" meme came from?

>>5996605
>there's a timeline where we got pic 20 years ago instead of Sirfetch'd
Still mad

>>5997345
>gen 5 to the present are great
I like Gen 5 but everything after has been worse than everything that came before. Gen 6 was bad, Gen 7 was worse, and I don't understand how QA allowed Gen 8 to happen just kidding we all know there's no QA at Game Freak because that would require spending money to make a better product.
Ever since pic I knew Pokémon probably wasn't going to ever get better, though I didn't expect it to get as bad as it is now.

>>5997561
Missingno. does corrupt your save data; upon meeting it, it specifically it corrupts the Hall of Fame, which nobody gives a shit about (and if you do all your duplication before beating the HoF then even that's fine). It also temporarily fucks up VRAM if you catch it and use it, but that's not permanent at all.

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>>5996984
so what is it called?
anyone got info on
>>5996980?

>>6000013
I remember reading it was being developed behind the scenes to avoid DMCA, but that could be /v/ bullshit. I haven't seen anything new about it in months.

what the hell happened to the spaceworld beta? no new romhack with the new mons? or that follows the "orignial" plot?

>>6000040
The guy who was working on it had a mental breakdown and stopped. it was mentioned in the poke community forums
he might be dead

>>5998897
>How?
Karrablast and Shelmet have to be traded with each other to evolve into Escavalier and Accelgor respectively.
Shelmet loses it's mollusk shell and gains speed turning into a ninja, and Karrablast gains it adding it to his own shell becoming a dual wielding lancer.

>>5996335
Are there any Silver hacks that make the female character playable? Preferably in Japanese.

>>6000080
Why wouldn't you just play Crystal?

>>6000097
I prefer silver's art

>>5996982
The image is only 41 colors, less than the maximum colors the Game Boy Color could display (56 colors). SNES or Genesis could easily render that image. And GBA could do even better, so there's no reason to associate it with the SNES.

I wish Game Freak would've released a good looking GBA game, and not the fugly piece of shit that was the third generation.

>comfy rural japan aesthetics
>overflowing with slowpokes
>Kurt making Apricorn balls
>cute trap gym leader
>right up against the Ilex forest so you can visit Celebi
Azalea is the best town in Johto.

>>6000207
>trap
Are there really people who thought Bugsy was a girl? I thought it was just a meme.

>fucking /vp/ infecting /vr/ also
>>>/vp/ is a containment board. ALL Pokeshit goes there, even videogames, even retro videogames.

>>6000585
I thought Bugsy was a girl when I first played the game.

Shirts for sale, ACen 2013.

>>6000585
I thought Bugsy was a girl. Is she ever referred to as a man in-game?

>>5996884
Mega Venusaur was such a waste.
>Let's just make the tree a little taller and slap a flower on his forehead
Anyone could have thought of something better.

Stop bumping your own thread.

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>>5996631
It was the internet that made it all come together. All that speculation, especially by gullible kids really does something

>>6002549
Some intern was pissed off at their boss.

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These suck shit. Please stop posting.

Just found my original Game Boy (a green Game Boy Pocket). Might replay Pokemon Red on it for old times' sake before I get Sword.

>>5997561
fjpgrkkffrrrfkf

>>6002575
My squad leader was Raichu.

Also, those fat designs are cute. The ones from the anime suck.

>>6002572
I guess you don't like anything then, since those aren't all in the same or similar styles.
You may not like it, but someone else will. How about dropping a contribution yourself, hm?

>>6002575
>I get Sword

>>6002602
Why do you think this thread was made? Same as all "retro" threads that conveniently pop up when there's a new release.

>be 4th grade me
>tell kid I go to school with that I wish Pokemon really existed and would come out from an Earthquake idk.
>kid makes fun of me for being an autistic faggot

Turns out I’m not a faggot. Just autistic.

>>6002609
>Why do you think this thread was made?
To escape the new release.

>>5996560
For me at least was a mixture of the world and monster designs, besides the anime.
It was such a fresh concept at the time, going on an adventure with your cool pet with super powers. That was the dream of every child. The curiosity of seeing the rest of the monsters and what they could do was also a factor.
As someone who didn't like RPGs, Pokemon definitely hooked me up with the fact that it was recreating the anime. Capturing and training mons was exciting.
In retrospective they're not great RPGs, the stories are basic, the game was made for bruteforcing it, but the same simplicity is what made it so addictive and replayable I guess.

The art was the best part of Gen 1 and 2. Now everything looks worse imo.

>>6002618
Nah. Pokemon art peaked at Emerald to Black and White 1
Then it suddenly went to shit.

>go on /vr/
>there's like five Pokemon threads in the catalog and Pokemon talk inside random threads otherwise
This needs to stop.

>>5996838
…Now I want a gen 2 demake of RSE.
>>5999005
Arita and Sugimori were my two favorites as well. Not as much with the 3D-looking ones Arita also did, though.
That Dragonair illustration is absolutely divine. I'd love to have really high resolution prints of some of the old TCG art.
>>6000591
>I can't abide other people having fun
>I can't just go to another thread either

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>>6002661
Yeah, I actually played the card game with other people maybe once or twice, but I loved collecting them for the art.

>>6002664
I also love this one but don't have the card and can't really justify spending any money on it.
Also the meowth in >>6002663 is one of my favorite drawings in the TCG.

>>6002661
(that dratini is another perennial favorite)

>>6002596
The are all the same style. Atrocious fan art style.

>>6002596
>>6002564 is OK. Otherwise I agree.

>>6002702
>The are all the same style
Go back and look at every single post quoted, retard.

>>6002616
>they're not great RPGs
translation: they don't tell super duper heckin' epic fantasy stories

and I say, good

>>6002752
>translation: they don't tell super duper heckin' epic fantasy stories
No, you stupid cunt. I love the setting of Pokemon.
But they don't make use of status at all as an important part of the gameplay. Everything can be solved with spamming the weakness against the enemy with your regular mon. There's barely any need for strategy. The dungeons are also mediocre for the most part.
The only great part of the gameplay, besides the mons themselves, is the meta. But the storymode is weak, gameplay wise.

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>>6002664
A good few years back I was 'over' pokemon and let my friends who still liked it cannibalize my childhood card collection among themselves.

I didn't think I would miss those old cards.

I do. I regret it and it is a surprising how much loss I feel.

>>6002760
>But they don't make use of status at all as an important part of the gameplay.
I should have stopped reading right there but I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

>>5996560
>Now I wonder what made the game as popular
idk about what made it so popular in japan, but in the US Tamagotchi & other virtual pets were popular around the same time (at least at my school). Then Digimon came out and you could fight them. Pokemon just took it ten steps further, and I was super excited about it. Having over a hundred different monsters that you have to find in a huge world, so cool. I'm 34 now and I've tried getting back into both retro and modern pokemon, but I never play more than 20-30 minutes, just can't get into like I used to

>>6003191
HGSS could have been like this

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>>6003194
Sans prototype pokemon

Every single gen released past III has shit designs, holy fuck. The only exceptions are new additions to existing evolutionary lines, Mega evolutions, the Garchomp line (which could have been simply added to Gen III) and not much more.

What the fuck happened to GameFreak?

>>5996801
Well there are the fan made versions for GBA

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>>6003431
nice try zoomer, gen 3 is shit

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I still have a collection of late 90s-early 00s cards. I wonder if they're worth anything now not that I'd sell them

>>5997001
There is a lot more to graphic design than being fancy and detailed.

>>5996997
You may not notice this, but the "romhack" images that have been posted are 1) a much higher resolution than a typical screenshot and 2) are difficult to see on a gameboy and would not work when in motion blur. You have a lot to learn about artistic design and functional graphic design. There's a reason realistic paintings are not considered art anymore. Stop falsley assuming people are not talented, and you will learn a lot more.

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>>6002663
>mixing languages

>>6003431
Gen 3 is shit. Didn't bother with Gen 4, but Gen 5 is kino and on par with the first two.

>>6002750
Reread that post, retard.

>>6002612
Same, except I wanted them to come out of a large knot on a tree in my backyard so I would have first dibs.

>>6003146
This is the point where you start to play ROMhacks---or would, if there were any mature, conservative ones available to play.

>>6003195
redpilled

>>6004439
this is a special kind of retarded

>>6003919
You may not notice this, but that was a baitpost, and your response to it was not even related on top of that.

>Huh? You say somethin' 'bout Kanto, bro?

>>5996927
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>>5996931
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>>5996935

This is what 3rd gen should've looked like.

>>6003493
>>6004439
Saying Gen III is shit doesn't make it so.

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>>5996836
These look superb.

>>6003919
>There's a reason realistic paintings are not considered art anymore.

Don't speak about things you don't know.

>>6002549
where is this from? some of these are subtle and actually sound legit

>>6002575
Don't get the new game, anon, it's somehow worse than the last few games. Battle scenes have less detail than the fucking N64 Stadium games, and their attempt at an "open world" section has worse draw distance than an N64 game. They also cut nearly 500 Pokémon including about 85 Gen 1 Pokémon

>>6002661
>…Now I want a gen 2 demake of RSE.
One is being worked on, development is slow though.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1573521207000.webm

>>6008162
any more links to this?

>>6008162
damn that's sick

>>6008190
Most of the work is being done through Discord, but there's a Pokécommunity thread for it with a very, very old demo (doesn't even have one badge of content).
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=417890
Posting a couple music tracks from it not yet in the game
https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/slateport-city-gbc-8-bit?in=mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/sets/gbc-8-bit-hoenn
https://soundcloud.com/monstarules/route-111-gbc-conversion

>>6002549
Fuck, I actually remember hearing kids say a few of these and believed the down B trick for years.
What a dick, lol.

>>5996617
>Nidoking
>Height : 4'7" / 1.4m

>>5996836
remember when pokemon actually added a bunch of new mons per game?

>>6000046
And let me guess; the forums proved once again that they're just a bunch of fucking Gimmie-Bobs and not a single one has offered to start the project up again?

>>6008223
If you trust GameFreak so much, you should go out and buy their newest outing, Pokemon Sword & Shield.

GOD TIER

Pokemon TCG 2, HeartGold/SoulSilver

REALLY GREAT TIER

Black 2/White 2, Platinum, Crystal, Pokemon Puzzle League/Challenge, Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue/Time/Darkness/Sky

GREAT TIER

Black/White, Gold/Silver, Emerald, FireRed/LeafGreen, Pokemon TCG 1, Pinball RS

GOOD TIER

Diamond/Pearl, Red/Blue/Yellow, Ruby/Sapphire, Snap, Stadium 1/2, XD: Gale of Darkness, Pinball

MEH TIER

UltraSun/UltraMoon, OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire, Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, Rumble series, Go

BAD TIER

X/Y, Sun/Moon, Colosseum

>>5996836
While this is neat, my principal complaint with subsequent generations was moreso that the designs became increasingly arcane. In Gen I you have very few Pokemon that aren’t a sly reference to a real-life thing, now we have these completely fantasy-based amorphous blobs and other way overcooked designs.

Gen III also had, seemingly more than any other generation, these Pokemon that were like, Walmart off-brands of previous Mons, like Seviper. They either were trying really hard to make people believe it was a new region and/or thought we hated how Johto recycled a lot of Kanto Mons.

Not that Gen II didn’t have a few of these, Tyranitar was sort of lame for example.

>>6008806
>hg/ss
>above g/s/c
Yeah, no.

>>6008997
Assblasted because it has minor interruptions sometimes. HGSS has so much more content than GSC it isn't funny.

>>6009015
Autism

>>6008808
>the designs became increasingly arcane
that's a good thing
I want more complexity and layers like Blaziken
>In Gen I you have very few Pokemon that aren’t a sly reference to a real-life thing
and?
and by "real life thing" I hope you don't exclusively mean "animal or plant"
>now we have these completely fantasy-based amorphous blobs
sounds like you're talking about Gulpin line; I will admit, that particular one is not well designed in my opinion
yet Hoenn designs follow Gen I philosophy fairly faithfully
>way overcooked designs
would you consider Ludicolo overcooked?
>Gen III also had, seemingly more than any other generation, these Pokemon that were like, Walmart off-brands of previous Mons, like Seviper
this is just a stupid thing to say; so because a previous generation had a snake, anyone coming after is a ripoff of it, huh?
>Not that Gen II didn’t have a few of these, Tyranitar was sort of lame for example
now I just plain don't understand what you're talking about
it's a godzilla clone, which did not exist before in the series; that's it

After spending some time thinking about it, I have to say now that I strongly prefer Digivolution to Evolution

3 forms wasn't enough and ultimately it just encouraged everyone making a Pokemon design to think of the actual final evolution they *really* wanted to make, and then just make its pre-evolutions smaller, gimped versions of it. There aren't that many evolutionary lines that avoid this trap, specifically "It gets bigger/multiplied".

On the other hand, Digiviolution offers up a longer progression that at the same time has many branches, which allows a degree of partner customization that Pokemon usually lacks. I've been doing some mock-up digivolutions for Pokemon and it has been terribly interesting visualizing the potential.

>>6009046
>Frieza: OP as fuck
>gets his ass beat by a low class monkey
lol ok

>>6009051
The game was designed to be a sequel to Gen 1 and for the new Pokemon to be an addition, not the focus. You'd get new ones here or there but plenty of them were reserved so players could find exciting new Pokemon throughout the game and into the postgame.
Starting in Gen 3 it changed to where new Pokemon were the norm and old Pokemon were uncommon or postgame only. People nowadays look back at Gen 2 like it made a mistake and is flawed, but it's just a different way of approaching the issue of how to handle new Pokemon. It isn't flawed, or at least it's not flawed for that reason.
Also, back in those days players were expected to use Pokemon in Pokemon Stadium 2, giving use to postgame mons since plenty of them were useful in that game. Also, competitive battling.

>>6009024
There were a lot of kaiju mons in gen 1, like nidoking.

Anyone interested in Gen 1 netplay? Got some Pokémon setups I wanna test out. I can trade and battle with myself, but it just ain't the same, bros.

>>6009024
You kind of hung a little bit too much on every word of my post here.

I wasn't thinking of Gulpin, though that is literally an amorphous blob, yes. I think the worst offenders tend to be the legendaries, which is a problem compounded by them often being the focus of the game now and being emblazoned on the box art.

I mean, come on, look at this thing. What the FUCK am I looking at? And don't give me the "outer space" excuse, you can't just make up some random shit with spheres, ovals, and half-moons and say it's related to something celestial.

Another problem is the rash of two-legged anthropomorphic donutsteels with disgusting color schemes. Now I don't begrudge them for this because kids eat this shit up, but Lucario is complete ass. Or like, Zoroark? Even the Bulbapedia article is like, "uhhhh it might be a fox, or a kitsune? or no, a werewolf. and it has kabuki makeup, yeah..."

>would you consider Ludicolo overcooked?
No, this is a clever design, and it's implemented well into gameplay.

>this is just a stupid thing to say; so because a previous generation had a snake, anyone coming after is a ripoff of it, huh?
Frankly, yes. Seviper isn't meaningfully different from Ekans/Arbok. Sure one's a viper and one's a cobra, but in terms of gameplay relevance this isn't that important of a distinction. There are non-poisonous snakes they could have gone with that would even have logical typings. Grass, water, ground, even fire or the weirder types would fit in with mythological snakes.

>>6009363
Out of curiosity, hows pokemon stadium's netplay?

>>6009416
From the few times I've tried it, if you have a decent internet connection, honestly not bad! I wouldn't be thinking about it much if I didn't have such a good experience. I only errored out once in about 8 matches, but the rest were just as playable as on the N64. Just make sure you know your Pokemon's moveset pretty well, otherwise, you're just showing your hand.

>>6009412
>I mean, come on, look at this thing. What the FUCK am I looking at?
Same source material as Porygon. Next.
>Another problem is the rash of two-legged anthropomorphic donutsteels with disgusting color schemes. Now I don't begrudge them for this because kids eat this shit up, but Lucario is complete ass.
Anubis. Next.
>Seviper isn't meaningfully different from Ekans/Arbok.
That's because you
1. Didn't read its Bulbapedia entry
2. Do not know enough Japanese mythology
>in terms of gameplay relevance this isn't that important of a distinction
Their movelists are virtually identical (Seviper learns Flamethrower) but their stats are different.
>Grass, water, ground, even fire or the weirder types would fit in with mythological snakes.
It should have been Steel as well as Poison.

>>6009562
No point in arguing with you, your bias is off the charts.

>>6009064
And that's why I like Gen II so much. It didn't force its new Pokémon on you (though nearly all of them were fantastic). Instead, old and new co-existed.

Gen III went a different road, and I can't complain because most of its designs were cool too. But Gen IV and on shat the bed with fairly shitty designs.

/vp/ ran out of space or what?

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>>6002545
aren't these from project M?

>>5996381
is there a time where its like, the exact time for him to wake up? i never found it

>>5996997

thats not ecruteak

>>6002550
>three assholes

whats everyone's favorite sprites?
The burglar from yellow was always one that i dug

>>6002661
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>>6002664
nothing triggers my pokemon nostalgia harder than the old pokemon cards.

>>6009562
>Same source material as Porygon. Next.
Porygon was originally an Eevee evo, nothing to do with Cresselia
>Do not know enough Japanese mythology
Riki Tiki Tavi isn't Japanese.
>but their stats are different
both shit tho

>>6010187
>Porygon was originally an Eevee evo
not what I meant
>Riki Tiki Tavi isn't Japanese
not what I was referring to
>both shit tho
by ultra beast standards

do better

>>6010161
My friends told me he would steal pokemon if you lose a battle so I always avoided until I felt strong enough

>>5997769
>PokeMMO

>>6010439
i had never heard that one, but that sounds like textbook playground poketalk for sure

>>5996631
Because anything trying to copy Pokemon will just be seen as a Pokemon copy. AFAIK, Pokemon was the first of its kind. The mechanics aren't super unique among JRPGs, but the monster-collecting angle was new (and of course, helped to make it marketable since there were so many characters to sell toys and cards of).

I wonder if it's even possible to create such a massive cultural phenomenon right now. When Pokemon was new, video games weren't nearly as popular. So there were more empty niches to fill, and less competition.

>>5997058
>I wouldn't really call pokemon much of a "pet simulator".
Many of the characters are cute animals, and you get to raise them into adults. Notice how the most popular pokemon are animaloid, and not the humanoid or objectoid ones.

Currently replaying LeafGreen. Lv. 31 Bulbasaur at Lt. Surge's gym.

Heavily flawed game, except, many of the rest share its same flaws or are worse in some regards or others. Definitely would not put it in a top JRPGs of all time list unless the rest of the candidates were garbage, which considering the conventions of the genre, is a high probability.

>>6010885

oof

>>6009046
I miss the Toriyama influence in pokemon