/vr/ - Retro Games

No, it's largely for people who think modern games are garbage.

>>5986021
>I'd rather play Ocarina of Time instead of Dark Souls
Said no one ever.

>>5986027
because Dark Souls has such demanding specs. This thread is projection. You got a new PC, good for you.

>>5986027
I would rather play Ocarina of Time instead of Dark Souls.

I have a 9900k for emulation.
You need raw power for more advanced systems and features.

>>5986027
I'd rather play Ocarina of Time than Dark Souls.

>>5986036
You need a 9900k only for last gen emulation though (PS3 and Wii U, maybe Switch later on when Yuzu gets decent). Even BSNES is super optimized these days and runs on potatoes.

>>5986020
Retro PC gaming is a blessing. I don't have to anticipate anything, every game I play is thoroughly vetted, patched, all bugs fixed years ago, cut content restored. The amount I spend on a system to play them is less than what someone buying full priced games spends in a year, and the games themselves are free. There could never be a new game for the rest of my life, and I'd still have an enormous variety of high quality games to play from the most nostalgic periods of my life. I'm happy I was a console kid.

>>5986048
That's all fine and dandy until you try to play an older Windows game made with dead API's.

>>5986020
I mean, I recently got into it because I never had any consoles before PS1 except a master system with two games, and even then, I only got really into playing games when I got a PS2.
So I still have many games to experiece.
I played Super Metroid for the first time this year, for example. Even though I played the shit out of the gameboy advance games.

>>5986020
>Anybody else feel the same way?
What's the point of this thread? Most are here because they don't feel the same fuckin' way. Yes, OP, it's fun to play around with your gear and see what it can do. I'm sure most here have powerful gaming PCs and use modern games as a glorified tech demo. Beyond that, today's games are defined by constant patches, microtransactions, handholding, under an always online Fort Knox of DRM.

>You just haven't played the best games, bro!
Some of the highest regarded games of the decade:
>Last of Us: Movie game with like 3 different enemy types, ultra linear level design, and dumbed down stealth mechanics.
>Uncharted Series: Movie games.
>Bioshock Infinite: A handholding simulator.
>The Witcher 3. Inferior everything to the prequels. Dumbed down combat and padded open world gameplay.
>Horizon: Zero Dawn. Another padded open world game. Has a somewhat interesting combat mechanic, but nothing mind-blowing.
>Red Deads, GTAs. Who's impressed by this game design anymore?

>AAA games are the only games.

What's muh Indeh doing that hasn't been done 20 and 30 years ago? As far as I can tell from what I've played (all the 2d heavy hitters), they've just made the 2d genre less punishing and impossible to lose at, because starting over when you die is "too gamey."

>>5986027
>I'd rather play shit than shit
Next time be more subtle

>>5986050
Like what? It doesn't end there anyway. It's not as if I played every good game on console. There are as many good JRPGs on PS1/2 that I didn't play as ones I played.

>>5986021
fpbp

>>5986027
fpwp

>>5986063
I'm a golden gloves boxer, I will fuckin EAT you

>>5986068
*spwp

>>5986039
If you want runahead of more than one frame in something like Beetle Saturn.

>>5986020
Just think why many /vr/ posters are either Russians or BR.

I have a PS4 with modern games I bought for it which are still untouched while I played several retro games

I admit it OP,
I began playing retro games because I am poor.
I kept up for a while, about until Half Life 2, but then I couldnt keep up.
However, there are plenty of activities you can do when you are poor. I quit many of them, but not retro games, because they are fun, educational, and well-made, with an interesting and activr community. Even when I have the chance to play newer games, they dont entice me as much.

No, it's for people who fucking like video games

Games are games like movies are movies. If it's good, its good. Period.

That's why were able to play old games on consoles we never owned before, and enjoy them.

That idea falls apart with all the retro games constantly being re released on every new hardware. It's just you.

>>5986154
Yeah but those remakes have massive graphical uplifts and numerous QoL improvements.

>>5986159
wasn't talking about remakes

I use my $2000+ gaming PC with 4K display for good N64 LLE with high-res CRT shader

>>5986159
Look at all the various unchanged retro ports and collections released.

retro games are kino, modern games are popcorn flicks

>>5986168
my cock is sooooooooooo fucking hard

>>5986020
This is the whole reason I'm here, so I can talk about things my PC can run, since my laptop is 12 years old.

>>5986061
If you're too dumb to be able to find good things beyond looking at what's the most popular (which has always been shit, look at FF7 and OoT), then you deserve to not play any good games.

>>5986159

He said rerelease, not remake.

>>5986193
Do you want me to kick your ass?

>>5986196
>seething

>>5986020
I imagine this is only the case with zoomers. Older posters grew up with physical copies of these games, and don't associate them with cheap or free alternatives to something else.

>>5986205
Shouldn't it be the opposite though? Older people would want to move on since they've already played all those games to death. Zoomers on the other hand are probably easily fascinated with all the "pixel shit" though since it's so trendy at the moment.

>>5986221
There are so many old games out there that people who grew up with them likely hardly even scratched the surface, myself included. I enjoy games from most eras, though, so whatever.

>>5986027
Because OOT is unironically shit

>>5986020
You do realize that a lot of the users on this board are basically just zoomers who got tired of modern games, right?

>>5986193
Just said I've played muh Indeh. I'm not going to be all or nothing and trash everything, but those titles aren't worth playing over a retro 2d game the majority of the time.

The better big budget games come from the likes of Platinum and From, and again, solid games and games that don't really have a /vr/ era equivalent, since the 3D beat em up wasn't a thing then, but Platinum/Clover was doing their best work in the early/mid-00s (Viewtiful Joe, Godhand, Okami).

>>5986020
Not exactly, though PC gaymning on a 3-4 year lag is honestly much more economical. $60 dollar games sell for $5 with all DLC, patches and run on a mid range machine with no issues.
The big appeal of retro gaems, is their uncompromised and often experimental nature. These games were made by teams of 6-12 people over the period of months, not years. Back when selling 60-100k copies was a yuge commercial success.
They didn't have to pander to anyone or stick to conventions, because the scene was so much smaller and everything went. The budgets and expectations were also lower, so you could get away with making a game that appeals to literally you and your mates, and nobody else.
And that's the real beauty of retro vidya, they feel unique with their own unique control schemes and unique mechanics, before gaming got so big every game treats the player as if its the first game they played in their life and rehashes most of everything from games that came before it.

>>5986020
No. Yeah, there are collectors who don't play, and yeah there are bandwagoners like you who only play a few meme games youtube tells them to. But for the most part "retro" gaming is for people who enjoy old games. And there are a fuckton of us. Even if there are more zoomers who have emulated a game once because they're poor, the bulk of actual "retro" gaming isn't done by them.

I think more people go retro due to modern games being full price, plus 40 season pass, plus palette swap dlc nowadays

Not to mention daily challenges and shit to lock you in and make sure you don't have time for anything else

Then there's mmo's not even giving a fuck. Pay for the game, pay for the xpac, pay 15 a month, pay 30 for a mount you cant get otherwise, pay to not grind, pay to change colors, pay for a flower pot for your virtual home, then pay for more inventory in your paid game because why the fuck not

Better off going retro and actually finishing some of those old games you never played. You'll feel good.

>>5986020
In short, no. Many here grew up with and still have old consoles and games, or flashcarts. Enjoy gaming how you can, but for me, nothing beats flashcarts, original consoles and a nice large shadow mask consumer crt.

You do make a good point, for people on a tight budget or weak device, muh romz and emulators are a great way to enjoy gaming.

>>5986020
Speak for yourself man, I could be playing old classics for two hundred years if I didn't force myself to stop, particularly where there is multiplayer like in fps games or some kind of online community you can discuss and compare like speedrunning

>>5986027
I think most people would rather play Ocarina of Time than Dark Souls.

>>5986020
No. You're just a faggot.
I have a gaming pc and a ps4.
Still find myself playing snes more than anything else.
Most modern games a dog shit.

>>5986021
fpbp
/thread
Let the thread start journeying to page 10.

>>5986050
You can just use a virtual machine with an older Windows install for that.

>>5986048
Same. I already have access to more games than I could ever play in my entire lifetime, no need to anticipate shit or anything.

>>5986020
I think your problem is that the only 4 retro games you ever played are Super Metroid, SOTN, Doom and Quake, anon.
Play more, there's many. You wouldn't even be able to play all the good retro games there are in your lifetime.

You people have some stupid ass reasons for playing retro shit. I play retro shit because I play video games and retro games are video games.

And my PC will be playing RDR2 in a few days.

>>5986020
Yeah pretty much. Not many will admit it though.

>>5986703
sup OP

>Are old movies just for people without (U)HD-TVs?

>>5986020
I play a little bit of everything. I don't think too hard about when it was made.
But I can confirm that being a poorfag limits my choices. The most powerful machine I have is a PS3.

>>5986021
/fpbp

>>5986027
Darksiders>OoT>DaS

>>5986020
It's for older people.

I don't know about you Anon, I just play games I think are fun.

>>5986020
My laptop has 12gb of ram, I just mostly prefer older games, or waiting maybe a year or two for prices to go down and patches to come out, the times I actually buy something new.

>And even with all the numerous fan made campaigns Doom and Quake still get really old eventually.
Considering how much different mod content there is for Doom, not really. With a new mapset and a gameplay mod I can have a pretty different game, maybe even a dramatically different one.
As someone who has been mostly neglecting Quake until this year, there's quite a lot of very nice mapsets I have yet to play.

>>5986021
I still like some modern games.

>>5986048
>I don't have to anticipate anything
Sort of. For example, someone is finally making a new sourceport for Rise Of The Triad, which I'm waiting to see if it'll be good, because WinRottGL is a janky piece of fuckshit garbage.
Other than though, I can mostly just go and pick up and play an old game, which is very nice and handy.

Right now I'm broke and have a shitty PC but back when I had a decent rig I still found myself playing and thoroughly enjoying old CRPG's and whatnot.
I would say it's a hobby often done out of necessity but if you just never check out retro games because you have all the up to date consoles or a good PC then you just don't care about the medium all that much. Not investigating the history of a hobby of yours, only checking out the current releases, weak shit desu. Even if you think the newer stuff is best.

I own a high end gaming PC, a 1440p 144hz gsync monitor, an OLED and high end speakers for my movies and stereo hifi, and half a dozen retro consoles (lots more on the way soon) all with flash carts and all outputting pure clean rgb to my extron matrix switcher outputting pure clean rgb sync to my Sony Trintrons. I also enjoy FGPA consoles, I have a mister for tg-16 and arcade stuff (eagerly awaiting cps/cps2 cores) and I also have a OSSC, and a framemeister. The OSSC is used for 240p gaming on my pc crt, I use the framemeister in between my capture card and my main system so I can stream on twitch whilst gaming on my monitors. Limiting yourself to just one segment of ways to enjoy anything in a hobby is brainlet. Now excuse me while I lol at you degenerates arguing over the “right” way to play games while I play some actual games.

Ps. Op is probably 12

>>5986061
Red Dead Redemption was great, I loved it, but when I look at Red Dead Redemption 2, I fail to see anything that really draws me in.
I have a really hard putting my finger on why, it doesn't feel at all like RDR, it gets no emotional response from me what so ever.

>>5986148
That too.
In 2018, my games of the year were from 1994 and 2013. This year, my game of the year so far has been from 1996.
My movie of the year is from 1985.

>>5986154
Some of those rereleases are good, some of them aren't.
Some are different enough, maybe not in a bad way, that maybe I want to play the old versions anyway. Some old games don't get rereleasd at all, for that matter.

It's just you OP. I have a PC that is able to max out any recent games and I still play retro ones way more.

Maybe play stuff other than what comes up when you google "greatest retro games of all time"? If you're sick of those games why not try new ones? I've been playing old games for years and there's still so many that are considered classics I haven't even touched.

>>5986813
There's some pretty good stuff on the PS3, lots of ports of good games.

>>5986020
Not necessarily. I own a pretty good PC but I still play a lot of retro stuff. Old games are still good, and it's nice getting to explore game history that was before my time and see how it holds up in 2019.

>>5986027
modern games are -mostly- garbage

DS is a rare exception

>>5986020
Have a decent PC rig as well as a PS4, but barely found any fun or intriguing modern games outside of my PS4 being a CTR:NF machine.
I've been having more fun revisiting 4th and 5th gen games (including mid 90s PC games at times) with a side of PSP and GBA games than keeping up with whatever flavour of the month modern game there is, regardless if they're AAA or indie a lot of what's been shown / released doesn't catch my interest at all, even after trying them out via demos and pirated cracks.

>>5987927
>I own
I'm telling mom you said you own dads pretty good PC

>>5986020
No. People dont watch old movies because that's all they can afford, they watch them because they're good. I don't label myself as a le ebic retro gamer because I like games from all gens. I dont have a super high end machine, but I can play modern stuff at high settings and enjoy it just as much as retro stuff.
The meme that retro games are just for poorfags is honestly one of the more silly ones I've heard. A good game is fun no matter when you play it, and who doesnt want to play a good game?

>>5989663
Oh god oh fuck I'm gonna get grounded

>>5986020
No, you fucking zoomer

>>5986020
I play all my games on consoles. My PC is for storage.

>>5986020
No, this is just your own personal experience because you never grew up with retro to begin with.

But hey, good on you for getting your 1st job, now that you got your gaymen computer perhaps you can start saving up to rent a nice apartment and move out of your parent's house!

>>5986020
List 10 games from the current decade that are anywhere near as good as the best pre-y2k games.

You can't.

>>5989892
You first. Post the best retro games.

>>5989906
>he has nothing
Thanks for proving me right, moderncuck.

>>5989906
Panorama Cotton

modern games lack charm and depth. a new beefed up hardware configuration does not help with that either.

>>5989906
Super Mario World (best platformer)
Ocarina of Time (best action/RPG)
Chrono Trigger (best JRPG)
Fallout (best WRPG)
Doom (best FPS)
Starcraft (best RTS)
Columns (best puzzle game)
Final Fight (best beat 'em up)
Street Fighter 2 (best fighter)
Battle Garegga (best shmup)

Your move.

>>5989945
>Columns (best puzzle game)
>Final Fight (best beat 'em up)
>Street Fighter 2 (best fighter)
best be trollin nigga

>>5989945
>throwing in a Sega game to absolve himself of the nintendo bias

For myself, I got into retro games as a kid predominately for the aesthetics. Retro games are beautiful, pixel art is beautiful. At the time I had all the modern consoles, but I sold them to get older ones and just dive deep and explore. There's SO MUCH to check out that I eventually lost interest in modern games. I will check out new stuff from time to time, but I have no feeling to go out and seek, I guess.

>>5986020
>Thing is, I found myself coming here less and less after I stopped being poor and bought a new PC that could max out current gen games.
I bought a powerful, modern PC a few years back and ended up only playing one or two demanding games a year.

>>5986020
No, most people are just consumerist cucks. I just finished reading a 136 year old book because of its influence on a 29 year old anime I'm watching, before that I read a hot new science-fiction book because I read shit that interests *me*, not because I'm caught up in some hype cycle.

Same with games.

>>5990006
japs are an inferior race of disgusting insects but the one cool thing about 5ch is that they frequently bring up old anime and vidya

>>5989949
OBVIOUSLY not talking of SNES Final Fight
Judging from the arcade trannies other beat'em ups might as well not even exist since they ONLY ever talk about OG CPS1 Final Fight and nothing else.

>>5990017
They also take care of their possessions so the secondhand market blows anything in the US out of the water.

im young with and i have a good PC with no nostalgia to old games but i geniuinely prefer them over the average modren game becasue of how much more creative and weird they are

I have a pretty decent gaming PC (i7-7700 with an Nvidia GTX 1070), and I still find myself playing retro games more often than modern games. There's just something very satisfying and charming about them, maybe it's the nostalgia?

Cause a game doesn’t have to be made after 2001 to be good

Man you are a dumb nigger

>>5990018
Fuck off that's streets of rage fags, most people that like FF like other beat 'em ups as well.

>>5989945
>Super Mario World (best platformer)
>Ocarina of Time (best action/RPG)
>Chrono Trigger (best JRPG)
>Fallout (best WRPG)
>Starcraft (best RTS)
>Columns (best puzzle game)
>Final Fight (best beat 'em up)
>Street Fighter 2 (best fighter)
>Battle Garegga (best shmup)
Cringe
>Doom (best FPS)
Based

Your move.

I can play xbox 360 era games on my pc, but I just enjoy linear gameplay and challenges stemming from raw skill.

>>5986020
a good thread died for this shitpost

>>5986020
The stuff I want to play doesn't actually exist, so I'm in no hurry.

>>5986063
hi egoraptor

>>5989703
>A good game is fun no matter when you play it
Some games just don't age very graciously. Maybe even most of them. Like why the fuck would one want to play Metroid 1 and 2 when Super and the GBA games exist.

>>5986020
>>5986021
Both wrong, its for people who are interested in good games in general, and specifically on the evolution of the medium over the last several decades. No need to be so cynical

>>5990929
Because they're fun. There's no accounting for taste of course.

>>5990935
This. Not everybody in this hobby is a cranky boomer.

>>5990756
What do you want to play, if you don't mind me asking?

>>5990929
I think they are interesting despite having some pacing and design issues. It's also really interesting to me to see how developers began conceptualizing things like permanent power-ups and how they affect design space, or even how they began to think about action games that were meant to be explored over several sessions rather than a more arcady experience.

>>5990929
I can sort of see your point, in that sometimes a sequel or followup makes the first game(s) look so much more shallow and less cool it's not even funny;
>Wolf3D is just not as good as Doom, the gameplay is trite and monotonous in comparison
>Simcity is basically made obsolete by Simcity 2000
>Heroes Of Might & Magic 1 & 2 are practically shitty next to the absolute masterpiece that is 3

That said, I'll still give the old outclassed progenitors a go sometimes, just because they do have their own merits, and they're worth appreciating for just how much the world built on their concepts since.

I got more into retro gaming as I grew more pessimistic about the industry over the last decade or so. There's been a few diamonds in the rough this year though. I really liked Ion Fury and I think Divinity 2 is my favorite CRPG since BG2.
As for the use of an actual gaming rig: I've enjoyed Doom(2016), Hitman 1/2, and Kingdom Come over the last few years

>>5986020
Retro gaming is just a state of mind. I usually go on a retro gaming binge every few months but normally I just play whatever's popular.

Nah, I own a house (fully paid) and have a decent amount of spare money, yet I don't feel compelled to waste money on a modern gaming pc: it's just not my kind of gaming.

>>5986061
Idk man your wrong about hzd and tlou. Tlou actually had human enemies sake melee some range and some thag use molotov plus clickers runners and boaters so theres six right there but it's not the enemy types that make it good it's the ways you approach the area and how you react when it goes not so according to plan. Hzd is GOAT. I'm sure the sequel will make it eventl better if they made the stealth a little better and the climbing more prince of Persiaesque it would be fucking amazing. Just cause you hate open world and cinematic games dont mean they're just movies or just open world. And no body mentioned asscreed odessey which is pretty fucking good to.

>waaah stop liking your kind of games and like muh kind of games!

>>5986027
I'd rather play Ocarina of Time than Dark Souls.

I have a decent PC, 1070 and a ryzen with 16gb RAM, but I just care about the vidya. I'd say I spend about half my time with /vr/ stuff, but to be completely honest I have a much better time with gen 4/5 games and usually only play newer stuff for the sake of it. I wouldn't care too much if I needed to downgrade or if my PC broke altogether and I was just stuck with vita/switch emulation of older systems. The switch is the only modern system with games I consistently enjoy.

I have a switch, but I realised 90% of my time with it is spent playing 90s/early 2000s shmup collections with a flip grip, and stuff like shock troopers/metal slug. The portability is nice, but it just shows the state of modern games if nothing else can give me that level of fun.

>>5986039
Nah. Even a 9900k still will drop frames on some N64 games with Angrylion. Try playing something like Pilotwings 64 and I bet you still won't get full framerate on the laggy parts

>>5986020
I'm playing Doom 1 and 2 with custom megawads and gameplay mods a lot regardless. Currently my PC can max out Doom 2016 and have over 120 FPS. The only thing that changes is the mindsets of people

"There's only so many times you can finish Super Metroid and SOTN without getting fucking sick of it."
Yes if you only have 2 games and play them repeatedly you might get tired of them. Solution get more than 2 games poorfag shitlicker

My PC is decent enough, can play new releases just fine for the most part, played through Sekiro this year. Good gameplay and high budget rarely ever mix together though so I just stick to older games and indies. It does seem like this place has been infested with modernfags with toasters though, would explain how much people love JRPGs here.

>>5986061
>What's muh Indeh doing that hasn't been done 20 and 30 years ago?
The rise of action/roguelike games is distinctly modern (even though there are a couple of predecessors) and the games are anything BUT "impossible to lose at", they are the closest modern equivalent to arcade games and surpass the vast majority of console games in difficulty. Speaking of arcade games, part of why indies are good is because they still do the same things that were being done 30 years ago, ignoring most of the cancerous modern game design """innovations""" and trends that you rail against.

>>5992990
I sort of ebb and flow like that, returning often to a favorite, and eventually a favorite turns out to have become a decade old and is almost getting old fashioned.
Then there's odd old game I hear about that I check out, and I sometimes find something that just happens to be real perfect for me.

On odd occasion, an actually new(ish) game becomes a favorite.

>>5986020
>Is retro gaming largely just for people with old/low end PC's? Yeah, there are collectors too, but I said gaming, not collecting.
People who buy original consoles and games aren’t too poor to build a good PC, they just have different tastes and priorities.

>>5986027
I'd rather play Ocarina of Time instead of Dark Souls

>>5986020
Im a older gamer who has nostalgia for 8 bit and 16 bit systems.

It's why I prefer real hardware over emulation i like seeing the actual consoles.

But I am a big fan of multi carts and flash carts I think collected prices are too high and the games preserved CIB are best for collectors that have the storage space for them

>>5986221
Older gamer here

Lots of genesis and SNES games I have not played just got back into gaming recently lost interest in gaming around the time of ps2

>>5986221
You kidding? There are so many good /vr/ games that a lifetime won't be enough to get good at them all. Unless by "played to death" you actually mean done a single lame playthrough and then abandoned forever but playing games like that is fucking gay.

>>5986221
>Older people would want to move on since they've already played all those games to death.
Says you, I never got to play Rise Of The Triad back in the day, and checking it out by chance last year it became a dear favorite of mine.

I'm picky in what kind of games I like, but there's clearly a wealth of Good Shit that I have yet to play.

>>5993365
Even just "a single lame playthrough" of just the top 1000 games would take >9000 hours. Literally.
And if you're not an ADHD sperglet wannabe speed runner it would take much longer. And 1000 games is the tip of the iceberg unless you're a nintoddler. The number increases even more if your not a monolingualoid. However many tens of thousands of hours that all adds up to could doubled it if you have friends to play with.
But I think it's safe to say that people who claim there aren't enough old games don't fit any of those criteria They have no life or job so could burn through those >9000 hours long before they're old enough to post here.

Why are Americans so obsessed over NEW GOOD OLD BAD? Especially with online games. They love to shit on everything that isn't popular.

>>5994385
>Why are non-Americans so obsessed with what they incorrectly believe Americans on obsessed with

>>5986020
Not really. The majority of current gen games just don't seem like they're worth playing. I know this board caps at '99 but up to '05 still seems good to me, after that games started going downhill with all the same issues of "streamlining" gameplay by making most games feel incredibly similar with little depth, too many fucking cutscenes, boring artstyles, etc.

Mostly only applies to traditional hardware though. I'm interested to see where VR goes.

>>5994385

>>5994385
Don't make it political. There are plebs in every country, not just America.

>>5994646
>>5994685
>>5994724
I'm American. Every non-American I talk to doesn't care and plays what they enjoy. My countrymen, however..

>>5994385
It's called progressivism, some people call it liberalism. Built-in into the society. The operating system of it, as it were.

>>5986020
>everyone into /vr/ is an emulatorfag
projecting much?

>>5995259
no, it's called consumerism.

>>5995314
what am i supposed to be seeing in this pic? just some poorfag shit setup?

>>5995316
IDK, maybe real hardware as opposed to emulating on a shitbox

>>5986027
the pvp is basically dead in every souls/borne game and i haven't played master quest before so yeah, at the moment this statement is pretty accurate.
Still hope for another souls or soulslike though

>>5995250
I'm European, and that's not the impression I've been getting from any Americans that I know.

I have a pretty high end PC but I only really use it for video which I can do in full uncompressed 4:4:4 5k editing.

I don't really enjoy using it for games though and always use consoles when I can even if I already have a game on steam.

>>5986205
97 babby here, I highly prefer playing on the original hardware if possible. I grew up with NES and Genesis physical copies that were hand me downs from my older brother (and some I bought myself as a kid), so I still have all those and still buy old games on the actual cartridge if I can.

>>5995332
cute pic

>>5995406
Thanks, it's an old meme

>>5986027
You should at least compare it to a game in the same series like BotW.

>>5995456
but OoT is objectively better than BotW but DS1 is a hard comparison, without nostalgia i would prefer it.
his point is retarded to begin with but if we have to compare then Dark Souls > OoT > BotW i still prefer OoT desu

>>5995668
I agree but it makes more sense to compare two games in a series since you can see how games in that series have changed over the years. The tutorial area of BotW was 10/10 for me but the rest of the game was average.

>>5995250
>I'm a zoomer and all my zoomer friends think anything that's not fortnite in 4k is shit
Your point?

>>5986020
I play the /vr/ games I buy, it's not hard to do.

>have a PC that can play modern games
>still play a fuck ton of Doom and Runescape
I'll never understand why I even try to update my computer at this point given the fact that I just play older games, I have a PS4 but barely play that as well.
Let's face the facts, retro games are the best for perhaps multiple reasons that being the following
>Not subject to additional content hidden behind another payment
>Generally cheaper or even abandonware
>community patches (implies PC)
>not tainted by conversational topics and/or current politician bullshit
>less hand holdy
Some older games might be different and breaks either one or more of my reasons for them being better, but also will still have at least one of them still.

>>5986020
Dedicated retro-gaming is for old people with nostalgia

But many non-dedicated gamers actually play old games that were released when they weren't even born yet, because those games are fun.

Good, fun games are gonna be played regardless of when they came out, same with good movies, music, books and other works of art.

Good stuff will be remembered as "classic". Shit will be forgoten and buried.

>>5986061
>AAA games are the only games.
Reminder that at the time of release E.T. could be considered "AAA".

>What's muh Indeh doing that hasn't been done 20 and 30 years ago
Sure, whatever example I'd present you'd be able to say was done before, but pretty much ANYTHING can be traced to something that came prior. For example there were a lot of "open world" games on ZX Spectrum, both procedurally generated and hand made. Does that mean that Open World of that time is the same as open world of the current day? No. But for the sake of the argument such semantics can be stretched far and wide in the ultimately pointless discussion.

Point is, a game does not have to do something new to be good. It only has to do be well made and be fun to play.
"A Hat in Time" for example does nothing new, but it's a fun game. "Aquaria" is a fun game that puts some new spins on metroid formula.
The Outer Worlds is not an indie, neither it is AAA, but it's a good game.
Saints Row series are good and fun games (at least until the 3d)
Disco Elisium that came out just recently is great.
Sunless Sea/Sky are really good.

There always be shit games and good games.
The only thing that won't change is you being a faggot.

And now that I said it you can safely latch on that sentence and disregard everything else, continuing to live in your own impenetrable bubble of ignorance, safely avoiding having to play good new games that would challenge your perception of "old=good, new=bad".

>>5986020
IMO modern indie games are way better than retro games and still low end friendly (usually). People play retro shit just for that nostalgia drive I guess. Or they're hipsters and think they're better than everyone else for having played some really old game.

>>5996994
>thinks modern indie games are better than old games
>calls others hipsters
wew lad

>>5990929
Metroid 1 and 2 are more challenging that Super or the GBA games, and have a greater emphasis on survival and finding or making your own way. I also like the atmosphere better.

>>5986020
If you only own two games your the poor fag

>>5986205
Born in 1999, I find retro games fun. Doom, quake, blood, shadow warrior. Playing Ion Fury as of now, not really retro but its faithful imo.

>>5998561
I've noticed that younger people seem to be more open to trying old games. It's older people who already played them and have an opinion that try to push their negative opinions on others as fact.

>>5998561
I've noticed that younger people seem to be more open to trying old games and enjoying them. It's older people who already played them and have an opinion that try to push their negative opinions on others as fact.

>>5998052
They're more "challenging" because they're fucking clunky to play. E.g. in 1 you can't even aim down to dispose of small enemies.

>>5998885
...and because there's less handholding than in later games.
>boo hoo you can't aim down
So don't. They're obstacles.

>>5986020
my computer is good but yeah i can't afford new video games, i don't even own a TV

I have a 2080 and still mostly just play retrogames, there some really enjoyable modern games, but most don't feel worth playing because of modern streamlined design philosophies. At least all good retro games are known.

i also "bought a pc that can max out current games" yet i keep going back to vydia from the 2000s :/ and earlier

I have a good Gaming PC, I just despise the egregious microtransactions and DLC that plague games nowadays, among other things. To be fair, though, I play a fair amount of DS and Wii games on it, and those aren't yet "retro".

>>5986021
Absolutely this

>>6000016
>posts a modern mod
Dude, nobody is still playing the original campaigns or 90's mods for either Quake or Doom. This should tell you something.

>>5986020

Gaming is for people who like good games. Old games are games and some of them are good, so they are for gamers. The same goes for new games. End of story.

>>6000710
Its still Quake and not Call of Duty.
And i still play the originals on nightmare mode on occasion.

>>6000710
woah it's like people don't want to play the same 20 something maps over and over again and they actually use the ability to make and add new maps that is absent from modern games or something

>>5986020
I think Metroidvanias are the second worse genre with Jarpigs taking the crown.

There are more decent to great retro games in existence than I could ever even sample let alone finish. It isnt playing the same game all the time.

And getting an OSSC/framemeister, fixing/cleaning old hardware and hunting down games that constantly dwindle in supply takes far more time and money than playing modern games.

>>6000710
That's wrong actually. I still occasionally do a run through Quake on hard, because it's just really fun. Or a run through Doom without any mods.
For that matter there's stuff from the 90s which people still play, like Memento Mori 2, Batman Doom, etc, and a lot of really celebrated stuff is from the early 2000s, like Alien Vendetta and Scythe 2.

>>6000834
I mean, that too.

>>5986020
I gave up modern gaming in the PS3 era. Shit just stopped feeling like games. Extremely bloated and without purpose; yet somehow still overly linear and controlled.

>>6000710
The original campaign is great and highly praised. Nobody downloads doom, and skips it to go play the wads. They play Doom, love it, and go for look more of it.

>>5986020
i have a high end pc so you're wrong

No I just dont like most new games(Ill buy maybe 1 or 2 a year that pique my interest)
But the majority of the stuff I play is 6th gen and back because I just find them to be higher quality even if they have less/no polygons
I really enjoyed DMC5 this year but I also put a bunch of time into diablo 2 and the castlevania series

I have a pretty decent graphics card and I play old games as well as new games. I tend to play more old than new though.

i can run the newer games. think the newest game i have any interest in playing is sims 3 older games were just better.

>>5986020
I think you may be onto something. I would like to enjoy new games, but I am only able to afford stuff from clearance racks. My computers are typically behind the times and I have to resort to AMD poverty which is only good with old stuff.

However, I am more interested in how I can stop being poor. The most I ever won is $1 back for a $2 ticket from the lottery.

>>6004532
Start with not buying lottery tickets. It's called the idiot tax for a reason, dumbass.

>>5986020
I have a rather decent workstation at home and yet I mostly play games from before 2007, because >>5986021

>>6000710
>nobody is still playing the original campaigns or 90s mods for either Quake or Doom

I'm still currently playing Plutonia and TNT. I have Memento Mori 2 in one of my Doom folders as well. I'm just one example of why you're mistaken. There are also people in the /vr/Doom thread that exclusively play the vanilla game campaigns and try to invent new challenges/speedruns to pull off, to the point of being called purists by others in the thread. You could not be more wrong if you tried, please take your ignorance elsewhere.

>>5986020
bitch my pc still can't even run bsnes smoothly and every retrogamer around me's telling me to switch over already, retrogaming is def for people with high-end pcs that arent potatoes as well.

>>5986020
> Is retro gaming largely just for people with old/low end PC's?

Is watching black and white movies largely just for people with old black and white TV sets?

Now that 11/11 is here, I can finally afford a couple of 120GB SSDs from China for the Win98 system I've been wanting to get operational. I still have to get RAM for the sound card and motherboard alongside a controller card. Even though it takes a long time, and significantly cheaper than a modern system, I am enjoying the process, to know and appreciate each part. I will miss out on Overwatch and sexy Tracer, but there are still plenty of good old games.


>>6004547
Unfortunately, the lottery is the only possibility I can see for myself to escape the worries of living paycheck to paycheck. I was hoping OP would tell me how one can just decide not to be poor.

>>5986020
Because CRPGs are my favorite games ever, and luckily for me, they're also experiencing a resurgence and I can play both the older ones and the newer ones and have myself a great fucking time. But older games such as VtM: Bloodlines, System Shock 2 or the Thief trilogy are better than most of the modern games of that type and interest me a lot more than RDR 2. It's the same reason why people come back to classics everywhere, movies, books, music, and games are no different in that regard.

>>6007323
How can you say you're poor when you're posting pics of all kind of cool things all the time?

>>5986020
I'm 24 with a high end PC, but I generally just play retro games because modern games, or at least the vast majority, don't sit well with me. I can't find any interest in most.

>>6007814
>I'm 24 with a cheap ass low power PC and emulate because I'm poor

>>5986020
I bought a two thousand dollar PC with a i7CoffeLake and a 1080Ti, 32GBs of Ram. And I barely play anything new. All I'm interested in is Sega Saturn, PC-Engine, and Turtles on NES.

>>5986027
>I'd rather play Ocarina of Time instead of Dark Souls

Unironically I'd rather play Ocarina of Time instead of Dark Souls.

>>5986050
LMAO... that's why I collected Old PC parts. I even have an old 8088 that came from a Bank. Although, I think I'd rather just use a Tandy 1000 for those old games.

Retro isn't always for Poor People. Not that I'm doing all that well right now. Hopefully things will turn around and we'll start putting things back in savings.

poorfag cope: the thread

>>5986020
>only poor folks appreciate shit
Get fucked you short sided shit

>>6007735
I'm fortunate to not be in abject poverty, but budgeting on a minimum wage earnings is very difficult. Most pics are items from clearance bings, junk bins, or holiday sale items.

I raid those hidden Target clearance sections with the red tags that had prices ending in a 3c or Best Buy with a rack on the side for last few items. Hard-Off has the now famous junk bins. Most the stuff I acquired in the late 90s early 2000s because no one wanted them. As OP mentioned, it is possible I enjoy a lot more older titles because I cannot experience the newer ones. Even worse is that those clearance bins have disappeared now that games are mostly digital, so on-hand physical stock of items tend to just sell out, so there's not much more cheap new games that I could get.

>>6012414
>filename

Going by what I don't see in that picture:
>Rise Of The Triad
>Quake
>Age Of Empires II
>Simcity 3000

>>5986581
>virtual machine
Not with games that require both a Windows 9x environment and 3D acceleration.

>>6012432
Pretty sure anon was using "You" in the colloquial sense as opposed actually meaning (You). Obviously (You) can't but adults with a but of know how can.

>>5986020
I have a more powerful PC than most other gamers out there, yet I pretty much exclusively play Quake.

Modern games are relatively terrible. I hate Steam in particular, it annoys me too much to launch a program to launch a game, especially with forced updates. I want control over the game I play, not fearing it will update, especially since that can break mod support.

>>5986050
I find modern games have their own pitfalls which make them just as frustrating to run. I tried to run Minecraft, but the problem is that finding the individual files became hell, especially as I lacked a map that would have existed on imggr around 2010. Skyrim is a pain since everything runs by script, which ends up overlapping with each other and failing to run things constantly.

>>6012557
>i have a shitty off the shelf meme brand pc my moms told me was good enough, yet i pretty much exclusively play Quake because the hormone therapy isn't working as well as expected.

>>5989945
dawn of war is better than starcraft

xenoblade 1 and ff5 are both better than chronotrigger

kingdom hearts 2 is better than oot

bg2 and planescape are better than fallout in different ways

add 3d platformer to your list so you can be right about something

>>6012423
Thanks for the suggestions.

>Rise of the Triad
Isn't that a DOS game? Would that be more suited to a 486DX4-100?

>Quake
I will have to rely on a torrent but it would be nice to revisit.

>Age Of Empires II
I saw something on Microsoft Rewards about it today, will look into it. I have the first one with expansion, better to play that first?

>Simcity 3000
I was fond of 2000 but stopped there, is it worth trying out 3000?

I like to player single player games and challenging gameplay. I play modern games if they fit those criteria but more and more titles are piss easy waking simulators with integrated multiplayer elements.

I play video games to get away from real people, not to interact with them.

>>6012557
>I want control over the game I play, not fearing it will update, especially since that can break mod support.
have you tried pirating? you can still buy the game and simply use the pirated version regardless if you are a buyfag

>>6013202
>Rise Of The Triad
It's DOS, yes, but I tended to play it anyway. Possibly try turning on the Ludicrous Gibs cheat if you find the game is running too fast.
I don't know how well DOSBox runs on Win98 desu, never tried that, so maybe that's an option.
I remember however that I would simply play some DOS games on Win98 and it was mostly fine (Syndicate Wars had sped up animations in the menus, but cutscenes and gameplay ran just fine).

ROTT doesn't play quite like other first person shooters mind, it's a lot closer to a shootemup arcade game with its powerups and temporary weapons, which there are plenty of. 80% of your arsenal is numerous different kinds of bazookas with different behaviors, and you're encouraged to play fast and loose with them given that you're somewhat protected from their splash damage.

>Quake
There's also good ways to play it on later machines, like Quakespasm. If you pirate it, make sure you get the music too.

For some common noob mistakes; remember that the shotgun in Quake is more like a pistol tier weapon, and NOT as powerful as the one in Doom, and that you only really have the super shotgun for that, which has the really wide spread, the shotgun is more comparable to Duke Nukem 3D's pistol than anything else.
Shamblers also take 50% damage from rockets and grenades, so save those for other monsters (like Zombies), instead try to save some nails and some power cells for the Shamblers instead.

>Age Of Empires II
I'd suggest starting out that way, yes.
There was some HD version with a new faction a few years ago, which, uh, was ok I guess. I know nothing about this new thing they're doing.

>Simcity 3000
It's still a lot like Simcity 2000, only with different graphics and some more depth of gameplay. I'm extremely fond of Simcity 2000s art direction, so I can never truly say that Simcity 3000 looks 'better', but it does look good, and I do like the improved gameplay.
There's an expansion as well.

lmao this thread is still up

just goes to show how true the OP is

>>5986020
To tell you the truth, I have acess to PS4, 3DS and Wii U games (I know, the 5 five good games lol) and still prefer to play retro games.

I don't know, you can pick up and play anytime you want. Modern games have a lot of tutorials and take time to play. I don't feel the same fun.

Before you call me a nostalgia fag: most of the retro games I play are new to me.

>>5986027
I'd rather play Monster Hunter

>>5986020
I haven't replayed any current gen single player game after beating it and the only multiplayer games I like are fightan and MonHun.
I replay one of the handheld IGAvanias at least once a year, and keep going back to 16 bit and CPS2 era beat em ups, fighting and shooters often.

Arcade games are fun to play again and again and again. Current gen games are for drug addicts and gamblers because if you turn off all lootboxes and shit you're left with a PSX tier adventure game that rarely lasts 20 hours. Yes some jewels like Doom, Bloodborne and RDR2 exist, but they're the minority and to be honest indie shit like Hollow Knight and Bloodstained entertained me more than Dad of War, Witcher, Skyrim, etc.