/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[11-2] Kinsie releases a WIP of 'Deathmatch Simulator'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66264&sid=3421fd12811cbd9c13bc2ff851980cae

[10-31] Death Wish for Blood updated to 1.6.3
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[10-31] Quake Halloween Jam 2 out now
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61786

[10-31] Doom 4 Vanilla v2.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4bU3wWAXI

[10-29] Guncaster Vindicated updated to 3.2.0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8gPMaGc7E

[10-29] Guncaster updates to 3.5.7
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&sid=69353dbf78756b18deee151bc797cd60

[10-28] New Blood addon 'Fleshed Out'
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-fleshed-out/downloads/fleshed-out-1-0

[10-25] jcr shamelessly self-promotes his Q1 map curation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqp_DyDgxjw

[10-22] Doom Tournament and Doomreal 1.0 now available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60759
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65969

[10-21] GZDoom updates to 4.2.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66171&p=1122190#p1122190

[10-21] Zandronum updated to 3.0.1
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9775

[10-21] Colorful Hell's 'Brown beta 2' released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1122162#p1122162

[10-19] Doom II Retrospective by Clint LGR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNtHwWVXbDI

[10-14] Jon St.Jon (Duke Nukem) is doing the voice for Postal Dude in Postal 4
https://www.dualshockers.com/postal-4-no-regrets-reveal-early-access-launch/

[10-13] Freedoom 0.12.0 has been released
https://freedoom.github.io//

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>>5988608
>Build Engine has the "get killed by an opening door" bug
>at the same time, the structurally similar Jedi Engine has no such bug.

>>5988608
>nu-wang
>champions ranger
Why

Ranger’s old football outfit for Miskatonic University.

>>5988618
At least Champions Ranger looks at least slightly closer to Quake 1 Ranger than Nu-Wang is to 1997 SW Wang.

Was there a design reason for some of the weapons in Quake to be replaced by a superior version? Aka the nailgun going to the super nailgun?
It feels like they get replaced so quickly and become obsolete for not much reason, like I should've been given the better version right off the bat anyway.
I don't think it's a problem, just wondering if there's an angle that I'm not seeing here. It doesn't feel like the difficulty of the level design goes up much when you're given them either.

>>5988627
Yeah, but I liked the old black helmet better.

>>5988627
Because 2013 Lo Wang was beyond a shadow of a doubt meant to grow into an older character which more resembles classic Lo Wang.

can you imagine if they do it like turok and new wang was actually a different guy with a similar name?

>Getting close to finishing Spooktober
Some of these maps are about as fun as having your teeth pulled. Its a real shame because the good maps are fantastic.

>>5988620
is that supposed to mean anything?
sorry im not into american tossball
or any american sport, really

Your face

>>5988608
I fucking love this image.

Also:

>Mfw you put several hours into a rotoscoped spritesheet, but it doesn't get the attention you wanted.

in hexen, do the pieces of the fourth weapons get to be placed in different spots depending on which character?
i already got the bloodscourge for the mage and how i finished it seems a bit different from how i got the wraithverge

>>5988776
also i feel like the entire point of the mage's frost shards is so frozen enemies get to be solid enough to block other enemies, like obstacles

>>5988763
>Miskatonic University is a fictional university located in Arkham, a fictional town in Essex County, Massachusetts. It is named after the Miskatonic River (also fictional). After first appearing in H. P. Lovecraft's 1922 story "Herbert West–Reanimator", the school appeared in numerous Cthulhu Mythos stories by Lovecraft and other writers.

>>5988776
beyond the second piece of your ultimate weapon being in a different room of the hypostyle, nope

>>5988771
it looks neat tho!
i hope that image is in a transparent background.

Not to shill, but this WAD is amazing:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O5DQHKvTdLBYcMQDiAHBjSU8ifnVkGAm
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109216-doom-zero-launch-and-celebrating-25-years-of-doom-ii/

>>5988928
I’ll give it a try.

>>5988928
I'll bite

>>5988928
>Other mods : No (not even minor mods)
Odd. I don't believe it.

>>5988985
habeeb it

>>5988608
>Hexen 2 is on Steam, but not gamejolt, itch.io nor GOG.

>>5988993
TWINKIE HOUSE! *PUNCH*

>>5988995
Also, Why wasn't Hexen 2 ever ported to PS1 nor the N64? the first Hexen game got ported to both those and the Saturn!

How did Golden Carnage (the San Francisco bridge level) ended being so brilliant in a release (World Tour) which was a trainwreck from start to end?

Not entirely sure if I got everything right in regards to relative size, but here's my first ever game rip
Visor
https://www.mediafire.com/file/eggn8415d38ohv5/eternal.blend/file

Cess Rifle
https://www.mediafire.com/file/8rhksuhl31p4itm/cessrifle.blend/file

If the Shambler ever went on the internet he'd be a Tumblr

>>5988608
i honestly think the guy that keeps making these generals is the most pathetic fucking loser on 4chan. and thats saying something. ALL TOPPED UP (assuming hes not even american... dedicating his life to a thread about a game from a country hes not even from... lol)

>>5989025
get out

>>5989027
How is he a loser /v/ermin?

>>5989027
Even more of a loser than the guy who consistently comes into these threads to complain about said threads? I doubt it.

report and ignore.

>>5989025
shamblr
or... TIMBLR

Did you enjoy the quake Halloween jam pack?

The vanilla hub level was nuts

>>5989064
I was playing a Doom Halloween map pack instead, but I'll be sure to check that out at some point.

>this music
>all the demons
>the fucking story
i fucking love this so much
https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloom-doomblood-crossover/downloads/bloom-demo-ver1-666?fbclid=IwAR26JXbLgLaduC-vJiVcZRKZP47KR8SvovkcW0s8Bf-K8gLQj36z7xEBvKQ

>>5988985
looking at the dehacked, it only modifies monsters
so no, you can definitely load weapon-only mods with this

>>5988771
>but it doesn't get the attention you wanted.
Life isn't fair sometimes, anon. Replying to the OP and begging for attention doesn't help your cause. How about instead of complaining about that, you put more effort into something like this and make it a complete sprite sheet because right now I don't see any walking frames, proper firing frames, pain states, or death.
You want acknowledgment? Earn it.

These halls make me so bad!

>>5989064
It was very nice. Aside from 1 level in particular. Also I couldn't figure out how to beat the farm level.

Reminder: Build engine games are fucking garbo.

GZDoom 4.2.4 :thinking:

>>5989215
DA MOUSE NO WORK ;(

>>5989215
Your mom is garbo.

>>5989226
Is Graf EVER going to be satisfied? GZDoom is getting so bloated, Doom should not make my toaster struggle, its meant to be the game that will run smoothly on anything.

>>5989247
He could very well be an Nvidia fanatic, seeing as the latest versions don't like AMD at all.

>>5989085
This is lagging like fuck and I'm getting hall of mirrors effects what am I missing?

>>5988752
Yeah, honestly I just noclipped to the exits of some of the maps. No point in wasting time on shit newbie maps just to get to the actually good stuff.

>>5989250
Yeah, I've noticed. So much lag and stutter on bigger maps. I'll stick to the older versions.

>>5989264
Yeah, the best maps were
Imperishable Fright, For Whom It Is Reserved, and The Graveyard Shift. Graveyard being the best of the lot, pic related.
Everything else was either filler or kinda bad. I still refused to noclip though, but in the end it didn't feel worth it.
If I ever play this again next year I'm just noclipping Pumpkin Head and maybe House of Illusion and Deep Sea. Pumpkin was just so fucking bad, I don't understand how it even got accepted.

>>5989160
There are walking frames and firing frames.

>>5989016
I'm fucking retarded and forgot to pack in the textures with these so they appear as bright pink instead, don't bother downloading these

>>5988752
>>5989264
It may have been a bad map, but the secret asylum where you had to throw straight jackets on imps to render them harmless was a fun idea.
The only issues were the corridors being tiny so getting past them was a shit, and the final "fight" having you dash between two camps of imps and forcing them all to swap straightjackets. With infinite health this would have been hilarious, but its just frustrating when the only one left to free is hiding in a crowd of his liberated, angry friends.

>>5989271
Was Deep Sea the one set in the underwater base? That was an awesome map, very atmospheric.

>>5989297
Yeah, but it dragged a bit. I didn't mean to sound like I was lumping it in with the shittier maps, I just felt like it outstayed its welcome and the flare throwing mechanic came from nowhere.

>>5988608
I wonder why Hexen 2 is on Steam but not on GOG, gamejolt or Itch.io?

>>5989085
Nice.

>>5989091
the plasma gun it's different

>>5989251
same, still a demo anyway

>>5989402
oh, yeah weapon behavior is slightly different
... actually hell, none of the monsters are even different enough for monster mods to be an issue. even the nazi replacement (beta skull) is just a reskinned nazi
so what the hell is this "not compatible with anything" nonsense about?

>>5989485
ITS MY STYLE MOM DONT TRY TO CHANGE ME

anyone got the latest gog build of ion fury?

I heard that the devs of GZDoom and Zandronum were trying to merge the latter's netplay into the former. Is that true?

>>5988609
GMOTA 1.3 to be released 11-15-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIACyDExUj8&feature=youtu.be

>>5989547
Looking forward to it.

I swear a long time ago I saw a comic made by Amiga users when Quake finally got a port to the Amiga and them joking about how it takes up the entire disk space. I can't find it anymore. Anyone got it?

what are some good or just weird wads for doom

Is there anyway to get crispy's hud working in GZ?

>>5989547
That audio mixing is horrid.

>>5989627
I never claimed to be good at making trailers. I'll be honest when I say I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing when it comes to video editing, but the last time I had someone else make a trailer for me, it was pretty fucking abysmal.

>>5989631
Just make the music a bit quieter during the speaking part at the beginning so it's more audible.

>Fire Emblem had a class called Dark Bishop
>They wore green in some early appearence
Wow i can't believe Nintendo copied Hexen

>>5989634
Bit late for that, I'm not keen on pulling stuff down and reuploading it.

>>5989619
Floor is Lava.
Its basically a shitpost wad, but I found it funny and entertaining.

>[v1.0] MORTIS
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66279

>BlooM - DooM/Blood crossover
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66261

FEAR THE BOOKS

>thinking about how cool it would be to have a t-shirt of the doom 1 box
>go to bethesda's store
>colors look super fucking faded in the pictures
can't they do anything right?

>>5989654
its a reality glitch the matrix is fading

>>5989654
I fucking hate Bethesda owning the Doom IP.
Now all the zoomers think Bethesda made Doom and act like its the one great accomplishment they have now that their RPGs have shat the bed.

>>5988609
Shit i forget >>5989649

>>5989664
we'll never get full mod support for doom eternal think about that

>>5989664
>>5989671
>their RPGs have shat the bed.
Thats surely true for TES after Oblivion. I also am aware that Fallout 76 was met with much disappointment, not to mention that there's no push to talk. But only time will tell if Fallout 5 will pull through. Oh, and I don't think that mod support will never be added for Doom Eternal. At the least I hope we will get something just above Halo 3's Forge.

>>5989671
Not at launch, but Stratton has stated that he wants to make mod support a long term goal.

>>5989729
There is push to talk tho.

>>5989774
When did they add Push to talk?

>>5989779
December of last year.

Anyone else play the Halloweenjam 2 map pack?
Just finished and thought it was but also had some less than great maps. Like the Sherlock Holmes map and the one called Trick or Treat.

>>5989785
Thats the problem with community map packs. You'll always get a couple of turkeys.

>>5989793
lol the barrier to entry is:
>ah made a map
>it can be finished without cheats

@person that wanted the models/animations from Deathmatch Classic backported to Quake:
It would be more effort than it's worth. One of the best new features of the GoldSrc engine was skeletal animations, so making them into Quake-compatible keyframed vertices would be a lot of effort.
But I agree, DMC has a nice aesthetic, porting weapon models would be nice, and should be easier.

>>5989025
If the Shambler was into cock and ball torture (CBT), he would use the humbler.

Post movie quotes that could work as a boomer shooter catch phrase.
From American Psycho, after the player throws an explosive: I don't want you to look at it, I want you to eat it.

>>5989785
Working my way through it now. Really enjoyed some maps, wasn't too sure of others but still found parts of them that I liked. Also, Vore titties.

>>5989215
Stop posting the same bait every thread.
Yeah, the Build Engine is jank held together with rubber bands and gamer cum, but nice things were made with it.

>>5989607
bump

>>5989869
Its funny how the Build engine is considered janky and "held by gum" by some Doom, Quake, and Hexen trilogy fanatics, yet the Jedi Engine, which is structurally similar in at least several ways, gets a pass.

>>5989215
the marathon engine has the exact same problem for some reason

>>5989880
It's almost as if psuedo-3D engines have a problem with the third axis.

>>5989882
and? gzdoom has had perfectly smooth mouselook for years.

>>5989878
Jedi Engine doesn't even have vertical mouselook to fuck up, nor does its level geometry have a tendency to murder the player. It was also only used for one solid game (or maybe two? I only know of Dark Forces, maybe Outlaws also uses it?), while Build has a disproportionate amount of shovelware dragging down its good titles.

>>5989887
wow, a community project, supported by autists, is able to cater to things that specifically trigger them?
Color me suprised.

arena doomguy and arena visor have a lot of design similarities, I think
anyway, ripping has been going alright, although doomguy has this retarded issue I have to fix, other than that, it's been nice and tedious
next on the todo list is classic doomguy, doom3guy, and then maybe ranger

>>5989878
Nobody cares about Jedi Engine because no source code was released and next to no mods were made for it
Also it now belongs to Disney

i've never actually played hexen despite having for years, so a few minutes ago i fired it up and started playing. I got to a point in the first level and I don't know if my keyboard is fucked up or what but my character started moving around by himself like I was possessed. each time it did this was also accompanied by a spooky whispery breathing noise. is this a normal part of the game? never heard anyone mention something like this.

>>5989929
Keep up the good work, brother.

At first I thought Lo Wang was a black guy. Are there any black FPS protagonists? I know of Supafly Johnson from Daikatana and Lucio from Overwatch, but they aren't protagonists.

>>5989967
Malcom from Unreal Tournament in a few games.

>>5989962
nice creepypaste bro

Hexen's top difficulty would be the perfect way to play if only the fast monster effect also applied to the centaur's block time. So close, yet so far. Still worth trying if you found the UV equivalent boring. It's not an overly-hard joke difficulty like Nightmare, just fast monsters and 1.5x ammo. So Ettins might actually hit you and you can use your weapons more liberally.

>>5989991
I put new batteries in and the game's working fine now. I don't like this wireless shit but it's all I have for now.

>>5989402
You sure about that?

>>5990045
yeah, it doesn't have a recoil, so it's kinda neat

>>5989016
>>5989278
Nice.
Are you planning on extracting others later on? ranger model plz.

Nobody has the balls to admit that the new enemies in Eviternity are completely retarded.

>>5989864
bump

>>5989742
>>5989671
Just because a guy pays lip service to a community request doesn't mean the suits will approve of it. At best it's just "I'll say this to make them shut up about it". Bethesda only okays mod support for Fallout and TES because they have built a reputation of "better with mods", not to mention they depend on the community to actually make their games playable. None of their other games have mod support because they don't need it, and they would cut in deeply into DLC profits, and god forbid platform specific content can be easily hacked into the PC version.

I finished up my playthrough of Sigil in Scoredoom. Here's E5M8 and E5M9.
M8: https://youtu.be/bkdHNh99IDk
M9: https://youtu.be/IdkmlPlI4NI

As a bonus, I played E1M8 using Scoredoom's "Bonus Pack," which adds a ton of extra shit like new monsters, powerups, usable items, and a "boss rush" mode at the end of mapsets. It's a big R667 clusterfuck that I don't really find interesting, but the creator put a lot of work into it and I figure it's worth at least showing some of it off.
https://youtu.be/xbu50h1F2l4

Here's a playlist of the full series if you're interested in seeing it.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglDaFi44ihIft0TaKy6p87810WzRIoJ7

>>5990132
please stop referring to Bethesda the publisher and Bethesda (Game Studio) as the same entity
thanks

>>5990132
That they ditched megatextures and opted for the traditional texture streaming method is a step in the proper direction already.

Besides this is ID, not Bethesda calling the shots. ID had a close relationship with Escalation for Snapmap and it's evident their efforts didn't exactly pay off. No sense in backing down from their decision to make it a thing again all of a sudden. Who knows, maybe they're committing to some changes under the hood to accomodate it, hence the delay.

>>5989864
"Damn good coffee, and hot!" from Twin Peaks

>>5990229
Doesn't count, Ion Fury already took it... kinda.

>>5990235
god damnit, didn't even know

>>5990237
It's okay.

>>5989848
What about ports like Quakespasm? Do they support skeletal animations?

>>5989864
"It worked in the movie!"

>>5989003
Mirage barrage is good as well.

>>5988629
They're risk vs. reward. Super gives you easier kills but wastes more ammo, while regular makes kills harder but allows you to manage your ammo to a finer deegre.
Of course, this doesn't really work in practice.

>>5988629
the normal nailgun is useless if you have super. the regular shotgun is still useful for long range.

I can't stand this Spooktober

>>5990356
This is something that Metadoom does really good, there alternative attacks that cost a lot of ammo are good at blazing through ammo for easier kills

>>5988618
>old Wang is a racist stereotype
>nu Wang is not
Someone fix this shit

I'm a brainlet zoomer who wants to play some Blood because I saw Civvie play a couple of the chapters and now I'm intrigued. Where's the pastebin for that game so I don't have to figure anything out myself?

>>5990007
Yeah, too bad addon IS effectively Nightmare.
>be a mage
>do your usual pew-pew
>eventually everything is populated with fucking slaughtaurs, and every fucking ditch is choke-full of those swamp monsters
No, really, it's completely retarded.

>>5990293
I don't think so.
I did some research on this before, when I thought I would make my own Quake 1 based game, and none of the classic idtech games support skeletal animations.
Although, I should note that one of the features icefrog brought to the Source Engine (now Source 2) via DOTA2 was the same vertex-based animations that Quake used. So it kinda went full circle. Funny, huh?
desu I'm glad to see vertex animation finally getting some respect. While they can be extremely limiting for basic stuff, they allow a lot more artistic expression. Look up the comparisons to Street Fighter sprites before and after they went 3D.

>>5989864
https://youtu.be/L3vg2cTX3rQ?t=388
Bro you got it wrong, it's "Don't just stare at it, eat it."

real cultist hours

>>5990391
As another zoomer that got into Blood because of civvie, try it on Lightly Broiled, and that's when you learn to get good at it.
I played the first few levels like 10 times before I managed to learn the cadence of the game. The lower difficulties were easier, yes, but I felt like I was missing out with so fewer enemies.
Or if you want to go Peak Zoomer with Fresh Supply, just use the custom difficulty maker (lol it's called Made to Order) and do Well Done, except with the damage of Lightly Broiled.

>>5989864
"Do I have a sign in the front of my house that says dead nigger storage?"

>>5990416
doesn't matter, if one of Duke's most well-known lines is a misquote of They Live, it'll be fine.

Its so cool when literally every single fight in a map is a lock-in arena where a million monsters spawn in and you have barely any room to move. Doesn't get old in the slightest. Truly the greatest doom wad ever, better than the original Doom actually, you might as well throw that in the trash cause we have Eviternity now.

>>5990425
t. contrarian cuck

We Smash now.

>>5990435
What wad is that?

>>5990420
Thanks for the advice.
Now gimme the mega link.

>>5990435
Happy with just a Caco hat but I still wonder if this is real or an elaborate mod. Apparently Ken's Shoryuken is inconsistent in the latest version, but yeah.

>>5990438
Just download Fresh Supply if you want to be a zoomer.
Otherwise, I dont have any links, and my preferred method of play is nblood, which has a nonzero amount of setup involved.

>>5990435
What the fuck

>>5990437
>>5990446
daily reminder that smash modding is a thing

>>5990425
>literally every single fight in a map is a lock-in arena
not true

>>5990452
>what is hyperbole?

>>5990454
>what's a "literally"

>>5990479
A hyperbole.

Been having fun with help screens again

>>5990384
My asian friend said he found 2013 Wang more offensive than 1997 Wang fwiw

>>5990097
New enemies are often retarded. Doom monsters were all balanced but adding recolours with broken abilities breaks this and feels jarring. I've never seen it done well in a Doom wad.

>>5990510
Nihility does it well enough.

>>5990513
Actually I do partially take it back, Strange Aeons does it well (for the first two episodes at least. Fuck the respawning and bullet sponge shit past that)

>>5988609
Death Wish for Blood now up to version 1.6.5 as of the end of the weekend.

>>5990497
Did he say why? Nu Wang is basically just Travis Touchdown.

>>5990541
Not the person you're replying to, but didn't they make nuWang a comic book nerd and overall dork?
I can see that as hitting a more real stereotype for Asians rather than the off-the-wall stuff in the original Shadow Warrior.

>>5990549
He's a cocky self centered dork who has reason to be that way because he has a lot of money and is extremely good at killing people. I can see where you're coming from with nerdy chuuni being more down to earth offensive, but it could be the same for any race - hence the Travis Touchdown comparison. Classic Wang straight up does the "low low low yo boat" heavily accented broken English, conflating Japanese and Chinese culture, and does Mr Miyagi impressions. One just seems way more clearly steeped in old school racism against Asians.

>>5990556
The old school Disney-esque racism of Wang was clearly an homage to media the creators consumed, and I think a modern Asian could see that.

>>5990541
He didn't but I suppose I could ask him sometime.

>>5990558
I could see that perspective, in that classic Lo Wang is absolutely fucking ridiculous and impossible to take seriously, but I can see why someone would find him cringe as fuck as well.

>>5990573
nuWang is way more cringe.
Especially nuWang 2.0

>>5990574
Nu-Wang 2 was pretty terrible, but he was alright the first time around, part of the appeal was that he was an embarrassing asshole who Hoji would constantly make fun of.

>>5989929
Would love to use Quake 3 Doom Guy hands for weapon sprites

>>5989929
Thank you anon. Have you been able to get any of the additional parts/mods?

Also Quake 3 Doom guy better be in Eternal

>>5989929
Rip
out
Everything

>>5990425
I only felt that with the third chapter. Otherwise the first two were great.
Does the fourth suffer from the same problem?

>>5990356
>>5990360
You're right about the regular shotgun, it at least has some utility to it.
I finished Quake yesterday. It's a nice change of pace after all these years of Doom.
I love looking at these games from a design perspective, so thanks for sharing your two cents.

>>5988629
This along with the over reliance on explosives is why I don't care for Quake as much as I do other retro shooters.
Its still a good game, but you can tell it was rushed.

What do you think about Machinegames wanting the rights to reboot Quake after they’re done with Wolfenstein? Because I think that’s an awful idea.

>>5990634
Very cute.

>>5988608
>in the middle of editing a pk3 file
>it just straight up deleted itself while replacing a file

>>5990649
Was you using Slade? It tends to make .bak files with every edit, so everything may not yet be lost.

Guys.
I am on Arch Linux, running GZDoom on a X230 ThinkPad.
I get no sound. Why?

>>5990728
The console says 'nosound'

>>5990728
I forgot to install OpenAL: My bad.

>>5990448
except mii modding only extends to recolors, not full blown new models like a caco hat.

>>5990627
I feel like Doom II was even worse with the over reliance on the double-barrelled. At least the shambler provided some sort of variation.

>>5990728
>x230
>he is using outdated laptop, and not even getting the benefits of the glorious old keyboard, and instead gets nuChiclet keys
legitimate cringe
t. x220t and W520 owner
inb4 gbt>>>/g/

>>5990783
SSG is a perfectly good weapon which serves a different purpose than the regular sg which was the weapon of choice in Doom 1. Not to mention it's not like you start every map with all weapons unlocked and things like the pistol are made inmediately obsolete by the chaingun.

>>5990632

They can't insert identity politics into Quake so don't see anything wrong with that

>>5990732
Don't forget to tinker with the OpenAL (Soft) settings.

>>5990789
They’ll find a way to fuck it all up.

>>5990787
Except Doom II has it so most of the game you have all the weapons, you don't lose them as readily as you did in Doom 1. And the chaingun is pretty much the same issue as the nailguns.

The SSG was just very overpowered. It had the power output of a rocket launcher without splash damage, readily available ammo, and the most negatable feature was usually fixed with circle strafing.

Of course, Doom 1 set an unbalanced precedent with the BFG. I absolutely hate when that weapon is included, since it is just so highly unbalanced. You can ignore it, sure, but the problem is that it is a literal easy mode button.

>>5990435
carmack got his wish apparently.

>>5990783
This is a fair enough point actually. The super shotgun is so powerful most players go through the game using it almost exclusively.
>>5990801
The BFG is typically hidden in secret areas and can't be spammed that readily. I think its fine as a rarely used panic button or as an occasional cathartic "kill everything on the screen" moment.

>>5990801
You can say the lightning gun in Quake is OP too though.

>>5989785
I was really impressed by the eeriness of a few maps, The Worship Condensate felt pretty intense and spooky. A few neat easter eggs near the start of the level, if you look up in a vent there's a spooky face, also, in the room with the open vent and a bump, if you get enough height on a jump you get sucked up and gibbed by an unseen monster. just a few neat attention to details

Playing cryptic passage for the first time, its great so far. Great mood.

Blood reminds me a lot of Thief texturing sometimes, even if Thief textures were overall better.

I would love a Thief like game in a build or doom engine if it would be possible.

>>5989649
i hate doomguy's pistol so much in BlooM, the rest it's fine but compared to Caleb, it's almost sad

>>5990789
They'll find a way. I want whatever team made Doom 2016 making it instead, it may not have been perfect but it was a better modern Doom than I was expecting to get.

>>5990789
QuakeGuy is now a black female asexual lesbian soldier. Like half of outer worlds characters.

>>5990809
The main issue I have with the BFG is how it can kill even a spider mastermind in one-two shots if done properly. At best you will do 40 damage with a plasma gun, but the BFG can cause at least 4000. If it expended 100 units, it would make sense and be fair, but at 40 you are pretty much at a massive disadvantage if using the plasma cannon.

>>5990819
Not really. The thunderbolt causes 30 damage per second and a shambler has 600 health. That means 20 shots. The thunderbolt can't be used in water, has rare ammo, and requires accuracy. The BFG can store a lot more ammo, can be shot pretty blindly to cause a lot of damage, and has no real weaknesses. I see the thunderbolt far more akin to the plasma cannon than the BFG, meaning it is powerful but not really OP.

>>5990791
how

>>5990842
It is OP in DPS sense, but is better balanced with poor ammo economy. Inability to use in water is rarely a matter of concern.

>>5990784
no u

>>5990839
>QuakeGuy
Ranger

>>5990879
Quackguy

Contrartian opinion:

NRFTL is much better than Plutonia. Plutonia is ugly,, and it's all about screwing the playee and "making him better" (not). NRFTL isn't this entitled, it's just fun, and a somewhat cinematic and adventurous experience.

>>5990853
DPS it definitely is powerful, but you could say each weapon is OP with one or two traits. A rocket launcher is OP since it has splash damage on top of the original shot. The difference in my eyes is the amount of user interaction, the amount of overuse it has, and how much it nerfs things if at all. OP would be more if the thunderbolt instantly killed a shambler without allowing it to attack, or could kill opponents without needing to aim at them. The DPS and nature of the plasma cannon is quite similar, so I am not exactly sure what the difference between the two in your eyes is. If anything, the plasma cannon causes more damage per shot.

The thunderbolt also has range, which you would likely argue is another thing that doesn't come into concern. Use in water can be a concern depending on the opponents in or around water.

>>5990887
Also not a fan of Plutonia. It marks the point where community maps started trying to outdo each other in terms of asshole traps and basically encouraging savescumming in the less skilled players because of it.

>>5990887
Plutonia is great and rewards skill, since the "traps" are just the occasional monster closet that's easily avoidable. It's actually very easy compared to most maps released afterwards and the only actually hard map is map15.

>>5990898
Increase in map difficulty is a natural progression of mod development regardless of Plutonia's existence and this can be seen by the fact that 90s maps are a joke compared to later "hard" maps like Sunder. People have beaten Plutonia a billion times, meaning they seek bigger challenges. Not to mention even then that's not the case for the most part because most maps are just average in difficulty. Hard wads tend to stand out, not become the norm, especially with the amount and popularity of gameplay mods where these hard wads shine the most.

>finally playing through my definitive Quake run
>get to Ziggurat Vertigo
>after getting the rocket launcher, I want to make a bind to it on Q like in Quake 3
>alt tab because I am a zoomer that doesnt know bind syntax
>"vkquake has crashed"
>fuck
>make my autoexec
>make my binds
>load up ziggurat vertigo again
>hear a notification from my desktop, without thinking, I alt tab
>another crash
>fugg
>load up ziggurat vertigo AGAIN
>play it
>get to the end
>whoa, another Shambler? aight homie, lets go
>beat the level
>advanced to the next
>go to save
>for some reason, my muscle memory kicks in
>quit the game in .25 of a second
fuck this, I aint playing ziggurat vertigo again
Brutal Half-Life, here I come.

>>5990975
>vkquake
you did this to yourself

>>5990983
I WAS TOLD IT WAS QUAKESPASM BUT BETTER ;_;

>>5990985
faggot

>>5990975
>vkquake
>Brutal Half-Life
>not enjoying Ziggurat, the most fun Quake 1 map
Zoomers were a mistake.

>>5990995
Ziggurat was fun the very first time.
My first time today, it was an alright change of pace.
now I hate the concept of gravity, thanks newton you fucking incel

>>5990482
>using literally to define literally
I feel a hyperloop coming on

>>5989664
Something that i noticed about new Doom fans is how there's been less care for gameplay, when older fans were either against stuff like glory kills or welcome enough that they made these Meta/D4T like mods.
Like, there's a variety of opinions/reactions from the fanbase about these games, specially in the gameplay area as if there's actual discussion.
New fans are either worried about an ugly HUD, "cartoony designs" or microtransactions but in a way as if they just recently heard about it or are trying to overcompensate for something.
Or they are excited but make it feel like they don't see Eternal as a game as if there's nothing to talk about for gameplay, so it's all just recurring jokes and memes and "lore".
Either id is doing something right with gameplay or this new generation of fans don't see Doom as a "gameplay first" franchise like older fans do which feels so out of place and sometimes, they have surface opinions.
One thing is purists and elitist and shit but these people are in a whole different league that the closest to dedication is just corporate/consumerist shit.

>>5990998
Circular logic works because circular logic works.

>>5991002
I'm one of the older fans and I'm still worried about the rainbow HUD.
But the gameplay seems to rely even harder on the shitty brutal Doom glory kills and focuses too hard on the shitty story that feels like a 14 year olds interpretation of the series.
>Dude like the guy kills all the demons and the demons are scared of him so they trap him but he escapes and kill the demons and hes soooo badass they like worship him with statues and stuff

>>5991002
In fact, that's probably why i dislike the idea of a Slayer's Club, the idea of an "official" site for Doom "fans".
They talk about how they've made Doom "Eternal" but in that one trailer (With uncredited content) they barely represent the aspect of Wads/mods (Which might as well be the most important part) and focus more on stuff like fanart and let's plays.
Those aren't always bad but they're not on the same league as source ports and playable content for the actual games.
It's as if someone either did poor research (Like that article about the SMM model not stating the head of the spider is a replacement because the original got destroyed during development) or there's a possiblity of Bethesda trying to redefine what makes a Doom fan, by mixing unrelated things and leading to a different idea.
MCU drone style of fans is bad for Doom, not only because of the legacy and the qualities of the fanbase but also because most of these types aren't even that knowledgeable/dedicated to the series, since they're more likely to be surface, if not, secondary fans, just showing loyality to a brand.
It's why console wars suck because people who obsess over that don't even know much about the consoles/games as if they don't actually interact with those or have passion for it.
At that point, you're not a fan, you're an unpaid advertiser.

>>5991013
I think in the ice bomb footage it looked less worse.
A fear i have for gameplay is if most of the new enemies lack differentiation because id were afraid to come up with something interesting or challenging in favor of "just number changes" types while the weapon/player part has more focus because the marketing dedicated that Doomguy is about the power level, not the idea of a guy going through that.

Eh, the thing is most people who get into Doom these days only play Brutal Doom and refuse to play it any other way. This is how Doom 4 and Eternal came to be. I sucks but thats the way it is.

On the flipside, some of these new players eventually get curious and try playing the base game. From what I understand Decino was one of these guys once.

>>5989664
I've never heard anyone say that.

>>5991026
Doom 4 is great though, unlike BD.

>>5988928
>Fully MS-DOS compatible!

Bueno

>>5991026
>This is how Doom 4 and Eternal came to be.
???

Holy shit D4T is so fun.

>>5991098
Doom 4 Trash

>>5991087
You're lucky. I see retards thinking it on Youtube and Twitter all the time.

>>5991002
Quite the opposite actually. The new titles are almost exclusively focused on the gameplay, far too much for their own good in 2016's case, even. There was little emphasis put towards exploration and level design, and other elements like monster hierarchies, interesting monster mechanics and placement/balance were all kinda thrown under the bus for the most part to accommodate the arena style gameplay.
They seem to be looking to right the wrongs with Eternal and actually reinforce the map design and ways to traverse the maps for one, and they seem to have introduced monsters with more varied attacks and patterns, some allowing to be disarmed, others teleporting behind the player, all the while the pressure units push in on you.

We've actually seen far less arena lockdowns in every piece of footage thus far than we've seen in your average 2016 level so I'm not that worried. I know for a fact gunplay will be far more interesting than it was before, I'm only concerned about imaginative enemy placement and how they're going to come up with interesting ways to keep the experience from getting stale.

>>5991104
Oh yeah, Doom 4 looked like shit before they scrapped that.

>>5991123
I recall 2016 actually having monster hierarchies, but it was so complex it really didn't come into play at all. If they kept it simple like in the old games, then players would have seen more infighting outside of a few scripted sequences.

>>5989485
Are the thing numbers swapped around at all? That would dick it all up.

>>5991137
Oh yeah, it did. Their infighting system was just so elaborate and nuanced to the point where it was very hard to cause it to happen, and it was also unreliable. All you had to do was walk up to the dudes and that would break up the fight and they'd target you again.

Other times I've seen it happen all of a sudden. I figure with how chaotic shit gets, they wouldn't want ever enemy to turn on each other first notice. But that would actually make the game a lot more fun and engaging. Hope they tweak the system to make it less restrained.

>>5991137
I like that Lost Souls are hated by everything in Hell.

>>5991104
what?

>>5990975
>>5990985
Dont know what vkquake is but quakespasm handles alt-tabbing just fine.

>>5991198
vkquake is Vulkan Quake, based on Quakespasm.

>>5990372
>This is something that Metadoom does really good, there alternative attacks that cost a lot of ammo are good at blazing through ammo for easier kills
the plasma gun heat bleat doesn't seem to waste ammo but it builds off of shooting, so there's that

>>5990435
there's like a hundred 3d cacodemon models you can find and he probably used one of those

>>5990789
they can't find a way to add something good either, if eternal gets all the good ideas

I finally got around to the plutonia experiment and I know you're not supposed to play with freelook, but it's really starting to get to me for one reason and one reason alone.

You can't lead the rocket launcher if an enemy is above you. The game will only adjust your firing height if it thinks you're aiming directly at an enemy, and with the amount of times this expac throws a bunch of enemies that need to be crowd controlled ASAP on a distant cliff or something, it's starting to get under my skin just firing directly at them and praying that they won't move/doomguy actually locks on.

>>5991091
I was always a Buildfag and other late 90s fps and honestly it was also brutal doom and its pixel art gore that made me go " fuck i never explored doom mods".

I know its fashionable or wtv the fuck to hate on it here, but i am giving you how it is for me.

>>5991309
BD is only hated because a vocal chunk of its fans act like its the only Doom mod to exist, turn their nose up at vanilla and hassle modders to make all their content compatible with Mark's spaghetti abomination.

>>5991316
Fair enough.


I am not that >>5991026 anon.
But I am quite sure I am not alone.

Dont know anything about the fans acting like its the only mod to exist but sounds shitty if its true.

>>5991309
I'm in the same boat. Brutal Doom helped me find out Doom had a big modding community.
It was nice ditching BD quickly for much better mods.

>>5991336
As I said, there are people who start with BD, notice the massive amount of mods besides it and move on to try oher stuff.
I think the annoying 12 year olds who act like its the only way to play Doom are the minority.

why does the chaingunner carry a round belt when the chaingun is magazine fed

>>5991384
I'm more confused on why they kept a minigun model for what was meant to be a weak SMG.

>>5991384
Nobody knows.

>>5991389
Because miniguns are cool

>>5991309
the problem with bd is that most people don't actually point out what actually makes it bad, so most criticism feels either superficial "it's different" stuff or irrelevant drama that everyone should've moved from ages ago
there's actual stuff to point out that makes it an otherwise 6/10 mod

>>5990830
Really? I hate Caleb's pistol, takes forever to kill the weakest enemy.

>>5990418

>>5990975
Seconding Quakespasm, I alt-tabbed out to talk a bit about the level I just finished when I did a run back in May, then went back into the game.

>>5989215
Guess what. Unreal Engine 1 had this problem too. Blame it on whoever decided that angles should be an integer in the range of -32768 to 32767, probably assembly boy James, but I wouldn't put it past Sweeney-Meemey either.

>>5991384
It's a rotary M249 except the belt loader is somehow fucked with every chaingun you come across, so Doomguy is forced to only use the magazine well.

>>5990851
Make an .alsoftrc on your home folder.

Adding output-limiter=false to the [general] section is a must, and if you use HRTF and your CPU is shit, also add hrtf-mode=basic, otherwise you'll drop to single-digit FPS easily.

>>5989215
I hate these kind of posters that completely disregard games because of technical issues. Hundreds of thousands of people have enjoyed Build engine games, but noooo, the mouselook not being perfect makes it unplayable.

>>5991567
Its a shitposter.

Why does the plasma rifle sound so horrible? If there's one thing the newer Doom games do better its making the plasma sound pleasant and satisfying.

>>5991567
as said >>5989869

Is there a Dragon's Crown mod for Doom or even the id Raven games?

>>5991653
God I want to skip 10 years ahead so bad

>>5991657
What's humanity without a little(large) bit of suffering?

>>5991629
I like the sound PWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWA firing thing
It kind of represents its power

>>5991629
Plasma sounded kind of weak in 2016. It might be a bit overly obnoxious in classic, but it gave a nice sense of power.
Speaking of which, I'm not sure how to feel about the sound design in Eternal. The assault rifle sounded a bit weak.

>>5991657
Could be much worse anon.

>>5991694
All the weapons sound kinda weak in modern games. Triple A games lack the personal crazy touch.

>>5991694
Thats because the plasma WAS weak in 2016. It went from one of the best guns in classic to a weaker, more accurate assault rifle.

>>5991704
Which is odd because the HAR was pretty accurate too, but had the advantages of hitscan and longer range.
I wonder how the team of Doom Eternal will balance the triangle of plasma/HAR/chaingun, because it seems like the chaingun is just a buffed plasma rifle now, and the HAR is now a sniper of sorts.

>>5991702
At least the new Call of Duty shaped up, and made some amazing sounding weapons this time around.

>>5991704
It was a shame because it was fun to use, and so were its mods. I love the gauss cannon too, but damn I wish there were a reason to switch between the two.

>>5991653
Doomguy would never support mental illness. Especially since John Carmack, The Icon of Sin, supports it.

>>5990097
Nobody has the balls to agree with your opinion? Are you 14 dude?

>>5991702
Recently replayed Doom 2016 and Dusk and jesus fuck how does the weapon sound design in Dusk makes my nuts quiver with joy. Doom just sounds pathetic, never wanted to use the pistol cause it sounds like a goddamn whistle played in an ass.
But every single SSG sounds satisfying in every game. Haven't found one that doesn't.

>>5991764
Dusk has some cool levels, but I feel it lacks a bit of personality.

I think for these retro fps to feel right they have to be serious about the minimalistic story and characters.

>>5991714
Seems they want to turn the chaingun into a proper thing mower this time around, while also buffing up the plasma gun somewhat so it's a bit more viable. But I still would rather they boiled down the arsenal to its barest of essentials, ditch the assault rifle thing and make the chaingun the immediate choice for rapid fire, and turn the plasma gun into the big bad boy gun it was before.

I'm somewhat baffled by their decision to have not just two but three different choices for rapid fire in the game. Nobody wants a fucking rifle gun when you can have a portable minigun instead.

>>5991738
Blow it out your ass.

>>5991773
Trannies aren’t human. They’re demons that want to rape kids.

>>5991773
>Feminism includes all genders"
I recently saw a UN tweet bitching about how 19% of all killed journalists were women, like the 81% male deaths weren't really an issue to worry about.

Blow it out of YOUR ass.

>>5991773
Regardless of the intent of that picture Duke feels extremely shoehorned

>>5991769
It sorta does feel like they want to push the rifle really badly as the "precision" gun, it's just uninteresting and expected in a modern shooter. It's inferior to the chaingun and plasma rifle in Eternal in literally every way, and it's only really worth having because of the scope. The missiles are gimmicky shit.

It's 100% shoehorned in for the sake of progression, kinda like Quake's nailgun. A complete waste of a weapon slot that sees immediate replacement as soon as you get the better alternative.

>>5991790
and the scope is meaningless because ballista

>>5991768
Found it opposite, a fuckton of personality but still simple in story. All maps transitioned so smoothly into each other I suffered whiplash going from erebus reactor to e1m7.
Fuck me now I want to replay it fully again. But I just did a week ago.

>>5991784
Aren't you a little old to be owning libfems on the internet?
Or are you still 14?
Yeah, shitty feminists exist, and incels exist too, shitty people of all genders.

>>5991796
I dont know what it is trying to be. Quake Blood?
Maybe its the style that irks me, the levels are okay.

Like the melee weapons, there should be a totally fantasy game made like this. Not not Amid Evil.

>>5991384
Maybe Chaingunners and Doomguy carry some accessory device which actively feeds cartridges from magazines to a belt which feeds into the chaingun, but also continues back in a look so the belt can be continuously loaded with cartridges from inserted magazines.

Yes, I know that's a solution looking for a problem, but just imagine it for a second.

>>5991798
There is a difference between shitty feminism and the UN, tranny.

>>5991653
trannys are demons that belong in the urn

>>5991389
Basically because it looks more visually impressive.

>>5991798
Are you honestly ignoring the fact that it was an official UN group that posted it in the first place? I guess you had to ignore it so you could make your pithy little remark.

>>5991798
I don't recall seeing any UN groups making shitty incel takes on gender politics.
Plenty of ones making shitty feminist takes though, interestingly.

Unused Doomguy Helmet from Doom 2016.

>>5991773
Who's half a man, you are half a man, an estrogen packin half man
Rip and Tear
Rip and Tear your dick off your body
You are male that means you have male hormones

>>5991936
is
is that
is that the old ass song taught in like middle school
actual lyrics like "give me land, lots of land"

>>5991941
i think he's just taken the lines from the doom comic and repurposed them against the trannies

how is demon babby formed

>>5991219

>>5990736

>>5991990
You really don’t want to know

>>5991990
>>5991998

What did they mean by this?

>>5992014
>the steam versions of doom still ship with dosbox without the setup utility
what did they mean by that?

>>5992017
>doom, doom 2, and final doom don't come with a new vanilla accurate port that lumps them all into one package
>doom doom 2, and final doom aren't just FLOSS software at this point
what exactly is their line of thinking?

>>5992014
I was dumb enough to buy this before I discovered how easy it was to just get the Iwads for free.
Oh well, I still use the Iwads from that purchase for my sourceports because might as well now, right?

>>5992028
$$$

Hey guy ripping Doom Models, What program are you using to view them? also have you uploaded Quake 3 Doom Guy yet?

>>5992034
Same boat. Hurts even more since my precious money doesn't even go to the original devs.

>>5992039
I use NinjaRipper to rip them, Noesis to organize/find/export ripped models, and Blender to view and edit them.
I'm currently on Quake 3 Doomguy, but it's going to take a while until I have him in a completed state because for whatever reason, whoever modeled his leg accessories decided to put both variants of his cosmetics (pouches and thigh armor) on top of each other.
I'm now in the process of going in and manually deleting every bit of the thigh armor, and once that's done, I'll have to do it all again but by deleting the pouches instead. I'd guess it'll take about 2-4 days. Hopefully his other variants don't have anything this silly.

>>5991990
how cookie get pregant

>>5992076
Through her butt.

>>5991653
Post yfw you never made a twitter account

>>5992094
I did, but I never see posts like that because, surprise, I don't follow those types of people. Tons of Doom modders have a twitter too.

>>5992094

>>5992101
that I can accept and wouldn't mind

>>5992104
wrong image

>>5991941
>>5991945
I'll leave the answer ambiguous like the gender of a transexual to make my post seem deep and meaningful.

>>5992101
>Doom modders Twitter just rambles about politics and current social climate
>rarely actually brings up Doom or vidya at all

What if Bitterman was in Champions?

>>5992125
i think athena was supposed to be the defacto q2 rep, though bitterman with his smug ass face would've been funnier

>>5992180
It would also be nice to see what he looked like before stroggification.

>>5992118
Joke's on you, every single one of my posts have been doom, doom modding, or vidya related.

>>5992125
model man get this please

>>5992269
Don’t forget the other Quake 2 weapons.

>>5992070
Can you import the models into a better real time renderer like Unreal engine or marmoset?

>>5992014
Did you just assume that spaceship's gender?

>>5992118

>>5990801
>It had the power output of a rocket launcher without splash damage, readily available ammo, and the most negatable feature was usually fixed with circle strafing.
This comparison strikes me as odd, not just in regards to Quake. I can understand the forgiving amount of ammo, but you can't compare it solely to a rocket without considering the rate of fire. You can cause way more damage more quickly with a rocket launcher, every time. The splash is also a bit of a plus when it's not in your face, the only thing really balancing it aside from ammo drops.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the SSG's popularity is what leads to too many people circlestrafing in the open against hitscanners they can't hitstun during the reload.

>>5992269
I might just for you, if not to get my mind off of the boredom of vertex removal
>>5992309
I have no idea honestly, I have very little knowledge on this stuff, I've never even heard of marmoset before your post, but I'd reckon that there's a way to get .blend or .obj files to work with them

>>5992373
It supports obj

>>5992427
I'll export the models in the .blend files as .objs and pack them in with the .zips when I upload them then

>>5992278
Alright so I exported this, but there's a problem. It has this screen on it with moving text and other bits, but the rip didn't come with it. I don't know if it's a separate model, or if it's some special effect thingy. If it's the latter, then I don't know what to do.

>>5992448

Ive been trying to play Garrulismo https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/garrulo but the author used the SS soldiers quite frequently, and I dont really enjoy how they look. Could someone point me towards a wad to replace them, or give me a brainlet tutorial of how to replace a sprite myself?

>>5992014
That imp has a cacodemon for a head. I'm afraid of Plutonia.

>>5992070
You are doing Gods work

bump because i always come back to this thread for the links

>>5991990
see, when you play MAP20 very, very very much, a little demon pops up inside the mastermind's spawning vats!

>>5990801
This dude has it. SSG straddles the line between the standard weapons of fist through chaingun and the power weapons of rocket through BFG - it deals the damage of a rocket with no fear of splash damage and uses one of the two most prevalent ammo supplies in the game. Doom 2 should have treated it with the same restraint as the rest of the power weaps, but instead they hand it to you in level fucking 2, well before they start giving you the new enemies that it's designed to deal with. Combine that with Doom 2 not having normal episodes that would force you back to default at certain points in the campaign, it basically made the SSG the new standard gun in the eyes of almost every player sans pistol starters. It's like the loudness war in music where the broader dynamics of using everything in your arsenal get shrunken down into a narrower space where the SSG solves almost everything and you only occasionally have to switch to something that it can't fix.

Then Sigil comes out and people are pissed that they can't kill everything in 2 shots.

>>5992014
>low quality bait starter

>>5992180
>i think athena was supposed to be the defacto q2 rep,
She is, her lore outfit is a direct recreation of the Q2 female player model's armor.

>>5991843
still can't get over how they used the wrong aspect ratio probably from their shitty BFG edition port to model doom nerd's head into a fucking square

>>5991653
>>5991773
why are you brining this shit in here
do us all a favor and join the 40%

>>5991014
wasnt there a time where they did a questions thread on reddit for quakecon but only accepted members of that site?

>>5991773

Can't you just post this on reddit or something?

>>5991843
Based.

Glad doom doesn’t have any cancerous iron sights.

>>5988608
/vr/oom can you please load up your GZDoom, type vid_fps 1 in console and report back what ms you have? When in-game, not in menu. You don't have to screenshot ty.

>>5992905
1-2ms (500-700 fps) when staring at MAP01 of Doom 2 wih no mods

>>5990634
Never forget what you’re fighting for.

>>5992969
Did you take off the FPS cap yourself or was it like that by default? Are you using an older version of GZDoom? Thanks.

Fuck laptop gaming.

>>5989485
Look at the mods he mentioned are not compatible

i think he was trying to bring people to play it vanilla and nothing else.

>>5990360
Quake's single barrel shotgun is deceptively practical, it's easily on the same level as Duke Nukem's pistol in terms of being a good starting weapon.

>>5992865
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me that I need to finish the ADS for my carbine.

>>5989664
in fairness id wasn't really doing much before the buyout.

like eriously how many people still use idtech?

>>5992905
gzdoom 3.7.1, 1200fps at the start of map01

>>5992905
15ms

I don't know what it means

>>5991773
more like dick cutem

>>5990634
bun is a strange pet to keep for a space marine
he seems more of a dog/tarantula/iguana/reticulated python kind of guy
hell, a goldfish. I can see doom bloke keeping a goldfish. Why a bunny

>>5993290
I'm more amused by how petty Hell was in targeting Daisy.
They knew they couldn't touch this guy, so they kill his pet in a lame attempt at demoralizing him.
Then he just goes John Wick but harder, proving that Hell can't do anything right in the Doom setting whenever Doomguy is involved.

>>5991785
John St Jon said "trans rights now" in Dukes voice once.
I'm not sure if that's a stance the character would take, but I'm guessing its made him a minor icon to the community. I find this odd, because in game he womanises and acts like a stereotypical red blooded American, all the things these people hate with a blind fury.

>>5993304
Not to mention killing everyone in his hometown in Doom 2.

>>5993314
Duke also said "Not my babes! Not in my town!"
And then followed that up with "Looks like you’re... Fucked!" just right before his babes died.

Is there anything that you used to believe about Doom that weren't true?

I used to believe that the different colored doors had meaning, indicating the level of danger that awaited behind them. Red doors meant low danger, blue meant medium danger and yellow meant high danger.

>>5993327
Yeah, they basically goad him into a greater killing spree at every opportunity. Demonkind is too dumb to live in the setting.

>>5993328
He did the right thing.

>>5993337
I thought demons in Doom 1, 2 were aliens and when i played Doom 3 i thought wtf is this tv series witch imagery and pentagrams.

>>5993337
That the game looked super hard and unfair.
Then again this was when I was a little idiot who stood still to shoot things.

>>5992094

>>5993337
For a while I believed in the "Doom is actually 2D" meme

>>5992082
waow

>>5993405
its top down game actually.

>>5993337
I thought the Keens at the end of map32 on Doom 2 were hanged jewish kids.

I read the UAC logos as VAC.

I thought that the Soulspheres were enemies and kept shooting at them.

I thought that armor was useless because I still took damage while wearing it.

>>5993439
I thought that the shotgun was a Nintendo Zapper coated in black.

>>5993451
I used to think that the BFG was a vehicle that you could ride like a scooter.

>>5993337
That the BFG was broken and didn't work properly, because I had a habit of shooting it around corners and ducking back.
It took years to find out about the actual firing mechanism it has and how it should be treated as an OP super shotgun instead.

What do you play DRLA with?
I used to love using Oblige for the full roguelite experience but after a spell of pushing them to the side and catching up with my wad backlog I'm finding that I've completely lost the taste for soem of Oblige's "quirks". After playing so many maps with actual level design and deliberate monster placement I can't stomach anymore the cyberdemons cheesed through bars and windows, the huge flocks of cacos and revenants thrown at you when you have at most a chaingun and shotgun (even worse with the monster pack since revenants have 50% bullet resistance) and the key traps that teleport dozens of chaingunners in a minuscle room with no cover.

This took fucking forever to make.

>>5988608
I just downloaded Bloom and the performance is shit. I checked the options but nothing seems to be wrong and I don't know what's happening.
Halp

https://twitter.com/The_DBT/status/1191818976554311680
apparently a new D4T version is coming that no longer crashes on GZDoom whenever you turn into a demon.

>>5991796
Its just that I love the ambiance and music. But I think they went too low poly for no reason. Shit even Hexen 2 enemies look cooler.

which mappers have a similar style to the aaliens/valiant guy?

Holy shit Alien Eradication demo map is amazing. I want this to be a full game.

I will learn doom mapping and suck your dick if you lurk these threads.

>>5991629
I've always loved it. It sounds harsh because it's an instrument of death that fires projectiles hotter than the sun

>>5989864
"Don’t call me Junior!”

>>5988609
>>5990520
Death Wish for Blood is now up to version 1.6.7 as of today.

>>5993629
i hope it has a settings menu for options too

>>5992691
That fucking sucks.
Bethesda trying to pull a class division on Doom fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUplbOeOPI

>>5993598
Very good

The main source of inspiration behind G1ftmacher's map ad_e1m3 / The Sepulcher (not a part of Arcane Dimensions package, search for links on celephais) - that was later remade by SimonOC into famous ad_sepulcher / The Forgotten Sepulcher - was likely a 1996 adventure game, called Azrael's Tear.

>>5992613
>>5992693
no

>>5993598
I like it.

>>5993758
3D Max is an abomination

>>5993692
hotfixing hotfixes intensifies
I already started a well done playthrough of episode 1 so

Also, ironic that Bethesda markets Doom around its fanbase but refuses to learn how to make proper ports that fans wouldn't fuck up that hard.

>>5993907

What's the hot new megawad for me to playthrough right now, last one I did was evilternity

>>5993916
Doom Zero

>>5993548
DoomRPG, it's real fun. Though for some reason it likes to crash after I get to a certain point in any wad. Could never figure out why,

>>5993907
>>5993913
Both are cute.

I used to be able to get svn builds of Quake spasm is that not a thing anymore?

>>5993913
The 10's were a mistake

>>5993913
tranny

>>5993973
I dread what the new 20's will bring.

>>5993907
woman

>>5991014
They got Doom community members, mostly mod developers, to do shit for that site too.

Almost certain one of them was Shivers.

>>5993694
eh? doesn't it have one already? I recall it having its own section in the options menu.

Holy shit, BlooM is NUTS.

When's Doom: Modern Warfare?

>>5994150
It feels like a nightmare I had one time.

>>5993913
this version is my favorite

>>5990510
Scythe 2's Afrits are done well imo

>>5993598
I appreciate you

>>5993337
I thought there was a war between Barons and Cacodemons because of the corpses in E2M9. Turns out it was a hint to make them infight, something I never knew you were supposed to do in that level until someone else pointed it out.
How small it was combined with the keys at the end made me thing the level was just the mapper being lazy.

Also I think someone mentioned Mancubi being the offspring of an incubus and a succubus, something I believed but I never found the source of.

Quake 3 Doomguy is here for download and (hopefully functioning) use.
I fixed the leg nonsense and hooked up his normalmaps and bumpmaps (I think)
He comes in .blend and .obj formats, ready for converting to other file types.
I'll upload the version with all the cosmetic addons down the line.

If anyone here with actual, legitimate 3D modelling knowledge points out any stupid rookie mistakes, feel free to let me know so I can rectify them in future releases

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zxeu3m9q9mmpilx/arena.zip/file

>>5994157
Call of Doom already exists, it has "waifu" companions.

>>5993869
Just like normal Max?

>>5994316
I hate how the word waifu is so misused nowadays.

>>5994157
>>5994316
There's also RGA 2.

>>5994275
I never got why the helmet was so tiny unless they used boxy head doomguy as a base. Heads don't look like that goddammit come on

great job anon.

>>5994321
Just like how shits think that 'hentai' also encompasses badly-drawn westernshit although they're not exactly wrong actually

>>5994319
hon hon hon
max sucks a baguette

>>5992905
With Vsync on, I get ~17ms at 60fps, without vsync 5ms at 200fps

>>5993598
tasty