/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5987117
hows the 240p support with it?

>>5987117
Pretty fucking neat.

>>5987117
whats everyones favorite ps2 game to play on their non-retro ps2

>>5987181
probably this

>>5987195
good chice

>>5987195
Excellent choice. The best shmup for ps2. Gradius III and IV compilation is also nice. R-Type final is also good.

For run and guns Contra shattered soldier and Neo contra are both good games with good graphics.

Timesplitters 2 is the best multiplayer and single player FPS with a ton of content and it runs at 60fps which is rare for FPS games on PS2.

>>5987117
With performance worse than a Pi. And it’s plagued with problems. It has better hardware but no good developer support.

was hoping for a snes-core since snes station will never be updated.
But hey, picodrive ain't bad.

I remember even basic NES emulators chugging on ps2. It's a fun idea but I can't imagine it being much good.

>>5987117
Please, just let the PS2 rest in peace.

>>5987383
PS2 is not dead. It is going to see a resurgence. Collector fags will soon drive the prices up.

>>5987372
Been using FCEU and infoGB, both run games pretty well (noticed some small graphic glitches in some gbc games, still playable though).

>>5987383
>Component out from PS1 games, while maintaining near 100% accuracy, running on a real PS1 CPU and near 100% compatible with original controllers and accessories
It's still pretty damn handy for /vr/.

My PS2 fat sounds like a jet engine with an HDD installed. I barely want to use it to play PS2 games, let alone emulators.

>>5988280
What's your setup, anon? What kind of HDD and network adapter?

>>5987330

The PS2 has worse IPC clock per clock than a Raspberry Pi 1 yeah, this is an unfortunate fact. Even back in the day, the CPU was shit.

Consoles have historically always had bad CPUs, it didn't just start with Jaguar CPUs on PS4/Xbone.

>>5988280
Really? Mine doesn't, just been playing Unlimited Saga all week and had a blast

These news are great. A couple years ago I used to emulate SNES on it but it was pretty bad though

>>5988280
Some models have really noisy fans, like the 3900X. Been meaning to try swapping mine out with something quieter, and maybe add a fan controller. Not like the PS2 gets that hot anyway.

I used to stash marijuana in the hdd tray

>>5988435
I just stash disc images in there now.

>>5987117
Besides morbid curiosity, why would anyone ever bother to install RA of all things on a PS2 of all things?

>>5988453
Possibly because they want proper 240p output for a CRT, but don't have a Wii.
And even that's a stretch.

>>5987117
>>>/vg/emugen
>>>/vg/hbg

Last time I tried this, there wasn't even an option to browse my ROMs from the HDD, has it been updated recently?

>>5988943
OPL will do this fine.

>>5988453
for scientific purposes

If this had come out around even a decade ago it would have been quite cool. The PS2 homebrew scene always had so much promise and effort put into it, but the emulators in particular were abysmal, mainly due to the system just being way too slow.
When you're getting lapped by a shitty Raspberry Pi in performance it's time to give up.

>>5988364
Newer ones were quieter.

>>5987117
Does a multi-emulator even make sense on PS2? It must be a resource hog.

>>5987117
Not memeing but why the hell would anyone do this? The thing can barely run Linux on their official Linux kit so why the fuck would I want to run open source emulators on proprietary hardware and software. Some games like GBS ones have filters to simulate the original colour pallette. I doubt these have been implemented on the PS2 retroarch.

Honestly with old consoles, I just use them for their library only. Anything fifth generation and below is PC for me since it's so much easier to tweak and customise.

I just use a ModBo and burn discs. I like having a folder of burned PS1 games, makes me feel like I'm still a leet haxxor in the 90's

>>5990982
It sucks that there's still no good way to use the PS1 hardware of the PS2 without just burning discs and swap-tricking it, at which point you may as well be using a PS1 anyway. Being able to run them from an HDD without POPStarter getting in the way would be a fantastic mix of accuracy, original hardware and convenience.

>>5988280
The 50000 models have quieter fans. It's even possible to replace a 39000 fan with the quieter one.

>>5990987
Swap tricks aren't necessary with a modchip. I still have my PS1 since there's a couple games that have issues, like Gradius Gaiden

>>5991006
True, but in that case you're still talking about a hardware mod and burnt discs. Hardly ideal, especially with how many PS2 disc drives are on the way out.
The PSIO is getting there, though still not as convenient as it would be if you could access the PS1 hardware of a PS2 from within the PS2's software.

>>5991012
>many PS2 disc drives are on the way out
I often hear this used in arguments but I've never heard of it happening. Even if a laser does go out, just replace it. It seems more like you're looking for the convenience of choosing games from a menu like you would on a PC.

>>5991012
The dvd laser going out isn’t really an issue. PS1 games play just fine and the ps2 games can be played off hard drive. I don’t think people understand that it only loses the ability to read dual layer DVDs but can read single layer and CDs fine

>>5987330
at least it has soul

>>5991285
huh? people always complain about blue disks not reading which are cds right?

>>5988340
I still love how absurdly powerful the Cell was even if it was a fucking asinine financial decision.

I don't want to make a thread to ask but what's a good model HDD to slap in a PS2 for loading games.

The Genesis and Famicom were surprisingly decent

GBA was awful as expected

>>5988214
popsloader isn't that great though.

>>5991568
its odd how the cell broadband engine never really found an interesting niche even tho it did appear in a laptop or two iirc

>>5991276
PS2 fats are pretty infamous for their disc drives dying long-term. There was even a lawsuit that SCEA lost back in '05 over it. You may not have personally encountered it, but that's like saying you never had a 360 red ring. Might be true, doesn't disprove the issue.
>>5991285
Tell that to the trouble my poor current unit has identifying anything in its DVD drive. It's slightly more reliable with CDs, but I'd still hesitate to call it 'reliable'.

>>5991919
It depends on if you want to use an old IDE drive or put in the extra work to get it playing nice with a SATA drive, and if you want to be able to actually plug your PS2 into your network.
There's official and unofficial 'network adapters', with only the official ones actually supporting networks. Both offer headers for an HDD. Official ones only ever had IDE on them, but reproductions have both IDE and SATA. There's also a third route you can take which is what I did, where you buy an official one, then replace the IDE header daughterboard with a third party SATA one to get the best of both worlds.
From there, I think the vast majority of SATA HDDs are considered reliable. There's lists of verified IDE ones you can find online which might be helpful, since it tends to be pickier.\

tl;dr: you need to decide your network adapter first if you want to go for the internal HDD path. Official IDE, official modified for SATA or knockoff IDE/SATA. And of course, make sure you've got a fat PS2. There's technically ways to do it with certain models of slim, but it's way too much work.

I'm very surprised the GB and GBC games stutter so much

>>5991568

The PPU in the Cell was very bad.

It ran code worse than a Pentium 4 1.6Ghz CPU.

If you didn't want code to run as badly as a P4 at that clock rate, you had to split off code to the SPUs. And C code was unoptimized on them so most had to resort to ASM.

They really would have been better off just having a good quad core CPU design with good IPC per core. The entire '1 weak main CPU, 8 superfast vector CPUs' design was a wrong and time consuming one that ultimately was rejected in favor of the Jaguar APUs we see in the current gen consoles today.

>>5987117
Sounds like a shitty way to ruin a ps2

>>5993218
how do you exactly 'ruin' it?

>>5987117
Did you know that the 4 emulators that comes with it existed since long time ago, right?

At least this helped me know GB and GBA won't look as good as I expected on a CRT

>>5993872
Yes and it's missing the SNES one

>>5994050
You could've just used the GB Player for those, or the Super GB for just original GB games

I'm current running games on OPL via ethernet, it plays the arcade ports like a dream because of the fastest loading speed and better framerate.

>>5994142
I don't have these, that's why I was interested in knowing how they look

>>5988340
One of PS2's saving graces were the vector units. If only people learned how to properly use them in regards to emulation.

>>5994050
SNES emulation has been always shit on the PS2.

>>5995859
Better than GB, GBC and especially GBA though

NES is almost optimal, Megadrive is pretty good but stutters once every 1-2 minutes

>>5987117
I've been in this boat a long time ago. The only thing that the PS2 can emulate with decent performance is Atari 2600 and NES, everything else is hit or miss and quite frankly an annoyance to actually use. Mednafen for that machine is just a gimmick.

>>5994195
Which arcade ports? All I've been trying is neo geo stuff and the input lag is terrifying.

>>5996149
Mostly non-MVS SNK stuff (i'm better playing those on FBA anyway) and some NAOMI stuff, avoid all north american/pal releases of the neo geo stuff, they're all fucked up.

>>5995950
GB/GBC emulation is good. GBA emulation was also good with the GPSP port. Never touched mGBA, but they say that it's also good.

Megadrive emulation it's great.

>>5997856
Which GB/GBC emulator do you use? The ones provided in OP stutter a lot

Megadrive was great, played Phantasy Star IV for a couple hours. Though I don't know many good games for that console

>>5998410
not him but infoGB does a pretty solid job, be sure to rename your roms so they don't exceed the 32-character limit.

>>5998450
I will try that, thank you

>>5998450
It was really good!

Before I realized the sun was up and I was still playing a shitty 8-bit RPG on the old PS2. Man that was fun

>>5988214
PS1 cpu on ps2 isnt perfect, certain games like Crash Bash and Medievil 2 doesnt work, and Silent Hill runs on low fps.

>>5999135
Which model of PS2? It's pretty near perfect on most Fats. It's usually the Slim, specifically the early ones, where you run into real issues.

>>5987117
The PS2 is absolutely retro. It'll soon be three generations behind the coming system.

what emulators does it come with?

>>5987117
>>5999591

>The PS2 came out almost 20 years ago
>If you were to ask anyone in 2004, would they consider the first Super Mario Bros on NES retro?

The double standard with the rules happening here is blatant.

>>5999640
quicknes and picodrive are the ones that actually work (NES and MD), the other two included are terrible

there's also infoGB for GB/GBC and snes-station for SNES

the rest aren't very good. maybe the gba ones of you land the exact game that has good compatibility. wish the neo geo pocket one was good

>>5987117
Retroarch is absolute shit.

>>5994759
>properly

I have trouble imagining how they might be used in emulation. Maybe for emulating the n64 vector unit, or other DSPs in consoled, but those are rare.

>>5998450
There is a patched version that supports 32+ characters in the name.

>>5999771
is the snes one actually playable?