/vr/ - Retro Games

First four are great, then it’s a steady decline. If I had to choose one probably Casino Night just because of the music. It evokes a strange emotion in me, like of some kind of wistful escapism.

>>5977758
Same for me but with Hill Top.

But was it cool, or karp?

1, Marble
2, Chemical Plant

Also Sonic 1 is the worst of the classic games, it's not a bad game but it's the least fun.

>>5977834
Sonic 1 is the best, as evidenced by you yourself picking Marble Zone as the best Sonic zone (close, it's actually Spring Yard)

>>5977750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLHgNWfIuDY

S2>S1>SSpinball>SnK>3>CD>3DFlickie'sIsland

>>5977857
It's not action packed enough for me. And no, I don't think spindash and power ups make the subsequent games any "easier", the only difficulty I find at all in Sonic 1 is some poor level design moments, it's just that it's more fun to be able to satisfyingly be an action packed hedgehog super hero than it is to be a hedgehog Mario

>>5977878
You're retarded.

>>5978101
I'm very smart and I'm very correct. It's fun to have to choose between a lightning shield to get elevated jumps and more rings for more lives, or a fire shield to blast through enemies like a badass. It's also nice to have an aggressive attack like spindash rather than awkwardly moving back and forth like a retard to get a roll going to take out some ground enemy who's better off just being ignored and jumped over. It's also nice to have the insta shield and hone your timing to perfectly nail enemies who otherwise would damage you.

It's more fun, dodging enemies is not more fun than killing enemies.

>>5978118
-_-

>>5977773
Hill Top Zone music is really rough to me. Sounds like something you'd hear in a Western developed game, not from Sega themselves. Very shrill metallic, ear-raping highs. Only track that seems out of place on an otherwise stellar soundtrack.

>>5977750
>Sonic 1
>No spin dash
It's shit.

>>5978124
I must be on the the very few persons to love that stage: the earthquakes, the landscape, the little Loch Ness robots, and even the music. I believe Death Egg it's a much worse theme. Hill Top Zone sounds nice on real hardware, but it can be ear-piercing with bad or mediocre emulators.

>>5978158
shit opinion, it was better without it, you had to interact with the world and play with the physics more

>>5978124
but anon sonic 2 is a western developed game

>>5977750
Sonic 2 is in fact the best and the standout zone for me is Scrambled Egg Zone.

>>5977750
Only thing that irritates me about Sonic 1 is the unavoidable death when you land on those huge spikes.
Labyrinth > Star Light > Scrap Brain > Green Hill >Spring Yard > Final > Marble

>>5978298
And 2
Chemical > Casino > Flying Fortress > Hill Top > Emerald > Mystic > Oil Ocean > Aquatic > Sky Chase > Metropolis > Death Egg

>>5978239
This is dependent on the level design and is why people generally don't like CD (the only real awful stage in that game is Wacky Workshop); you can't just spindash to win. Or at least you can't without getting anticlimactically hit by something, which is how it should be. You still can go moderately fast and react fast enough by using Sonic's speed w/o spindash/peelout but if you want to go at spindash levels of speed then you need prior knowledge. It's filled with springs that are placed for use coming from other routes or to use as access points to other routes, however they also serve as momentum stoppers. Also, CD's time travel objectives requires you to slow your pace and explore more (which obviously forces you to do those two things you mentioned more) and the mechanic to access those worlds forces you to route out your paths and think about how you use this ridiculous instant speed as to retain it correctly, although it can be annoying on certain levels and I think it's arguable whether or not you should lose the ability to time-travel after slowing down more than halfway through as it doesn't really make the game more difficult just longer.

What's that zone right before oil ocean? Had great music. Boss was the easiest in the game though. You could hit him 6 times before he drilled back into the ceiling.

>>5978314
>>5978314
Mystic Cave

>>5977750
i hate sonic 2. There isnt a single good level in there. S3 was the sequel S1 deserved.

>>5977834
>>5977857
>>5977878
>>5978101
>>5978118
>>5978119
Very faggy posts, but there's truth in here. Sonic 1 just isn't nearly as gripping or flashy as any of its sequels. How can you make that argument while picking Marble Zone as your favorite though is beyond me.

>>5977750
>sonic 1 and 2 being better than 3 or CD
Lol bet you think labyrinth zone is actually good

>>5978290
>Game Gear version
holy BASED

Casino Night, Chemical Plant and Oil Ocean. Honorable mention to Hidden Palace for the music. Sonic 2 is how you do a sequel.
Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles can stay in the corner.

>>5978290
Superb taste. What the devil are you doing here?

i see castlevania shitposters are shitting up sonic threads now.

>>5977750
>aquatic ruins zone

>>5978432
Labyrinth Zone is pretty good. Only plebs can't appreciate it.

>>5978290
Sonic 2 on game gear was the worst of the early Sonic games for the system, I'd rather play 1, Chaos or triple trouble.
Always hated that fucking first boss

Launch Base Zone is my favourite. Great mix of speed and platforming, multiple routes with lots of verticality, interesting set-pieces, killer music.

>>5978298
That's because of a glitch in the original US release. No other version has it.

>>5979220
GO ketchup
GO ketchup
GO ketchup
G-G-G-GO GO

>>5978158
>welfare for speed
Lmao at this loser.

>>5978302
>people generally don't like CD
>"Wacky Workshop"
The guy with the retarded opinion couldn't even get basic details right. Who'd have guessed?

>>5977750
i wouldnt say sonic 1 is the best sonic game, as it implys that there are other good sonic games.
a more precise way of saying it would be: sonic 1 is the only good sonic game.

Nice samefagging.

>>5979528
Not everywhere is /vr/, go elsewhere and people harp on how cd has is only worth playing for the soundtrack.

Do people actually believe sonic 1 is the best out of the genesis sonics? There can’t honestly be people that enjoy Marble and Labyrinth zone and the rest of the levels are just decent. Honestly the game is incomplete without the spin dash added in 2

>>5980324
The Spindash to me slows things down. With enough speed, you don't need it, simply holding down while moving gives you that same effect and I do hate that later games require you to do the spindash though if you're good enough you still don't need it.

the second one

>>5980324
Playing the Taxman re-releases on iOS made me love Sonic 1 because of the time attack mode. There's the requirement to beat the game in under 45 minutes and you can revisit individual zones and acts to shave seconds or minutes off the total, and I ended up appreciating Marble and Labyrinth's design after perfecting my routes through them.

>>5980324
The Spin Dash is a crutch.

Sonic 1 is a game that's quick to play through when bored and leaves me feeling like I had my fill afterwards. 2 and 3&K just drags on too long.

>>5981229
You might want to check Sonic Jam on Saturn , has time trial modes for Sonic 1, 2, 3, S&K.

>>5980324
no it just contrarians.

>>5980324
>There can’t honestly be people that enjoy Marble and Labyrinth zone
What's even wrong with these zones? The whole hateboner for Marble is history revisionism at its finest, nobody ever complained about it back then, having to push 1 (one) block is nothing compared to some of the later shit on subsequent games, so don't come at me with that shit.
Labyrinth was always infamous for being so punishing, but what are you, some casual? Just be patient, don't panic, and get through the level. It feels good to do it without ever getting hit, also Starlight, just "decent"? That zone is one of the best Sonic zones, always a highlight of Sonic levels in general.
Spring Yard is just about the best Sonic zone ever if you think about it.
That leaves GHZ (absolute classic masterpiece that has been copied to death but never surpassed) and Scrap Brain (original Robotnik mecha level with tricks everywhere, classic Sonic also was copied hundreds of times but neither Metropolis nor Death Egg on S&K are better than Scrap Brain, even having into account the water section on Act 3.
Sonic 1 is really the best Sonic when you REALLY compare it to the others.
Saying it feels incomplete because you can't maintain your momentum and depend on Spindash is not really convincing.
>>5981287
>Liking Sonic 1 the best is contrarian
The things one has to read.

>>5981541
stop making these threads and kys autist.

>>5981620
Nice rebuttal, solid arguments bro. Sonic 1 sucks! waaah too hard no spinfash!

>>5981624
see>>5977878

MUH MARBLE ZONE

>>5981627
>hedgehog Mario
What did you even try to say, you stupid console warfag?
If Sonic 1 isn't action-packed enough for you, then you're playing it wrong.
>b-but bad level design
For every flaw you can name on Sonic 1 levels, I can name at least 3 on Sonic 2 or 3 levels.
Sonic 1 is still the most curated Sonic experience and no amounts of "but spindash makes it more action-packed!" sloppery slopes can change that. Also if you really want spindash so much just play it on Sonic Jam.

>>5981642
ok autist.

>>5981653
Nice rebuttal bis.

Sonic 1 is garbage.

>>5981673
now this is an actual contrarian post.
Learn, zoomers.

Oil ocean, I don't like it wheen speedrunners use glitches to bypass it

The Master System version is the best version

>>5981716
Sonic 2? Not in a million years.
Sonic 1? Better than GGS2, but still not better than Genesis Sonic 1.