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>>5957750
>story is insulting simple and trite
>yet I am confused
That just means you are dense and need to step your trolling skills up.

Why can't zoomers into Chrono? I played it just because some mail-in fan in Nintendo Power talked it up around 2002, and it became my favorite game even though I was 10 and was shit at RPGs. So easy and atmospheric (except for the final boss).

>>5957750
Is there anything specific that you're confused about?

>>5957758
/thread

>>5957927
I think what OP meant to say was it APPEARED to be really simple but at the same time has lots of nuiances and complex sidestories that build the actual lore.

TL;DR:
Lavos is some JENOVA ass alien lifeform that crashburnes into earths core.
Everyone gets baleeted.
Life forms anew with lavos sleeping there.
Some people try to harnest it for power/energy whatever.
They fail or get taken over by lavos.
Lavos kills everyone yet again in the future.

Kid stumbles into time machine to this future.
They prevent this by PRIME TARADOXing back to the past.
Things happen

They travel to the apocalypse day at some point (depends on the ending).
They fugg up Lavos.
The end.

OP got exposed instantly

>>5957750
>having two Water magicians with you for Magus's Castle instead of being prepared for three of Magus's four shields
You are unironically retarded.

>>5957750
>my first play-through
>the LP I watched
Is this unironically considered the same thing now?

>>5958019
Ask me how I know you're in your 40's

>>5958028
Delet this

>>5957750
>after my first play-through of Chrono Trigger..
>...The LP I watched kinda blasted through the text
maybe don't spoil every videogame you play with videos you actual retard

>>5958019
No, its just an obvious troll. Why do you not get this?

>>5958102
Schizoid Personality Disorder.

>>5958028
Because his moem told you while she was sukking ur dick eksdee?

>>5957938
So you're saying it's LITERALLY just Avengers: Endgame

>>5958050
I want to 100% games plus I play games for the story so videos are fine. Not OP btw.

>>5957750
You time travel to Middle ages. Minor plothole with the time travel mechanics by Marle disappearing because the devs probably didn't finish wrapping everything.

Then in the future, Lavos destroyed the planet on 1999.

Go destroy Lavos to save the future.

End up in the Place without time, which I believe was another constrain because of the gameplay mechanics. That character was supposed to playable originally, so I think we're missing an age, the modern times.

Find out that Lavos falling on Earth caused the Ice Age.

Find out that the Queen of Zeal was trying to harness Lavos power to live forever.

The team fight Lavos, Crono dies, gets substituted for a puppet, so now he lives.

Schala is lost, possibly an unfinished story line due to time constrains.

Beat the Black Omen, thus defeating the Queen of Zeal.

Beat Lavos, saving the future.

Ignore Radical Dreams and Cross because they fuck the Trigger's story.

The DS version has the Dream Eater thing, to bridge Cross with Trigger. Ignore it.

>>5958452
You make the game sound like an unfinished mess with loose ends all over the place.

Which is correct.

>>5958883
It's so unfinished that it ends in 15 different ways.

>>5958452
How did Marle get Schala's pendant?

>>5959181
Passed down from the Royal Family.

>>5957972
Ice Water combo fucking wrecked in that castle, and was cheap to cast.

>>5957750
Midgame or so the robot reveals after about 400 years of being a glorified farm tool:
Some force be it fate or god picked you and teammates to save the world from this abomination (lavos).

Mostly this has to do with the future after lavos has already obliterated everything leaving the most awesome looking post-apoc scenario that only OG Fallout bests. It all has to do with 2300 AD+. Because early on you set up the survivors to be able to rekindle society. And late game you kill off the robots who are exterminating the other survivors. Then by killing off lavos and its spawns you prevent a repeated annihilation, and prevent it from spreading to other worlds. Killing off the dark omen also kinda-sorta saves the future since they wont be a problem either.

Lavos seems to transcend time a little bit so its unclear whether killing it prior to the 1999 apocalypse would actually stop it.

In the end the world got destroyed... (A few times) but in that distant future there is a Glimmer Of Hope because of you. The people have the capability to come back from the ashes, though there is no guarantee that they brave the elements to do so. In other regards you improve the quality of life for yourselves and alot of other people, even turning some enemy factions into friends.

>>5961271
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>>5961279
In fact it sets this up by example in 12000BC during the fall of the game's pseudo-atlantis. The people are left with NOTHING and even their magic is gone and theyre in an ice age too. But thosands of years later society rises again yielding you and the pleasant life of the world Chrono grew up in.
So if they could do it back then, at 2300AD living among the ruins those people could make civilization come back too, they'll never see it, but someday it will return and the snow and black skies will subside.

This is a very bleak and sad game do you understand? Themes of finality and extinction... does life go on however simple or awful it might be, or does it simply end and become dead rust?

The guru in the future who transferred to the Nu body is a microcosm for that message. If you turn him off after hes done then he has no future, if you dont honor his request then maybe there will be more to his story.

>>5959245
But Schala disappeared.

>>5959245

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>>5958028
Ask me how I know you’re retarded.

>>5958452
Wait, what’s this about the ds linking into Cross’s story? Never heard about that.

Will I be spoilered if I haven’t played cross yet?

>>5962187
It basically says that Magus is Guile.

>>5957750
And you never will understand perfection zoomer. Go play fortnite and STAY OUT OF MY VIDEO GAMES!

>>5957750
It's retelling the bible, now go and REPENT!

>>5957750
>after my first play-through of Chrono Trigger, I feel like I don't really understand the story at all
>The LP I watched kinda blasted through the text
What's the point of this post? Did you look at /vr/ and think to yourself, "Man, I wish there was more shitposting!" or something?

>>5961417
In the original timeline, she died on the sea floor after the Ocean Palace accidentally woke up Lavos, who destroyed the Zeal civilization for annoying it and tapping it for power. The pendant then drifted out with the tide until it was eventually found by "someone" at some point and was traded, sold and gifted until the pendant ended up in the hands of the Guardia royal family.
There's thousands of years between Zeal and Guardia (12,600 if we decide to trust the translation as literal) which is plenty of time for a magic pendant to end up somewhere else.

>>5957750
You see, video games are meant to be played not watched you dumb zoomie

>>5963331
I've never seen a pendant float in my life..

They should have just stuck with Takahashi and Sora doing CT2.

>>5957972
Ice and water are two different elements in CT. Now whether Magus had a water spell I admittedly don’t remember since I haven’t played the game in 10 years and I’m too lazy to have to redo the captcha

>>5964034
>Ice and water are two different elements in CT.
Anything weak to Ice is weak to water, and vice versa. How are they not the same?

>>5957750
>my first play-through
>The LP I watched
Fuck off.

>>5961279
I think the Black Omen and the indoctrinated Queen Zeal was Lavos sort of time transcending. As for how he travels, he could very well use some sort of time portal convenience to go from tasty DNA-filled planet to planet (crashing is convenient since it destroys all threats, though he might travel through space and time... Dream Devourer is purely ethereal, so who knows Lavos could be more than a spacefaring Cronenberg-monster)
I think killing him prevents the Apocalypse since they worry about Robro, though who knows if time is ever truly erased...
As for the pendant, they all get sucked through time portals when the Black Omen activates Lavos’ almonds (or vice versa rather), Janus and Schala’s Pendant end up somewhere, the gurus end up somewhere, and Schala somehow goes missing completely outside of time getting nommed by Dream Devourer, possibly what spawns Lavos or Lavos in his nonmaterial form (I kinda like the Dream Devourer idea as it looks like the dreamstone and explains where the hell Schala went, and a way to finally find Schala. it’s sad that Magus forgets everything and seeks her still, that ending felt a tad too Chrono Cross tied. A few text boxes from schala “no u don’t understand magus i am become lavos u won but jk”. even Magus agrees and decides to forget all about it mostly. Still decent if not cathartic, I wanted to free here there and then, not play the sequel!

>>5964349
The reality is that the Schala part, that pyramid dungeon and the modern ages and the last playable character, the old man (possibly one of the three oracles) are missing from the game.

And of course, Marle's plothole, that follows a different time travel mechanic.

>>5963793
You've never seen a dreamstone pendant.

>>5957750
Fuck yourself. How about that?

Bros where did I hear about a new version of CT call 'Chrono Trigger+' or something like that? I saw it somewhere the other day and forgot to bookmark it.

>>5968523
Probably on /v/ where you came from.

>>5957750
If it makes you feel any better I was born in '86 and I wasn't even able to get past the first enemy after finally realizing you need to go back and forth talking to random people enough times to make the time travel thing happen at the village festival before getting up to that first enemy. I don't understand how anyone got the hang of that game.

>>5968523
>and forgot to bookmark it.
oh noes.