/vr/ - Retro Games

this is real by the way

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/vgm/d/homestead-used-20-color-video-broadcast/6970729410.html

>AS IS. NO RETURNS. NO REFUNDS.
>IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED, CALL US AT show contact info
WE ONLY ACCEPT PHONE CALLS ONLY. WE DO NOT ANSWER TEXT MESSAGES, OR EMAILS.
>show contact info. PHONE CALLS ONLY.
>IF WE ARE UNABLE TO ANSWER, PLEASE LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE WITH YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER (MENTION IKEGAMI MONITOR), AND WE WILL CALL YOU BACK AS SOON AS WE CAN.
Someone call and ask if they've heard of retroarch shaders

>WE BUY USED GAMES AND WE REPOST THIS EVERY 4 HOURS AND INCLUDE 4,272 VIDEO GAME RELATED TERMS SO WHEN YOU SEARCH FOR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR AD HUNDREDS OF TIMES

>>5951196
>Someone call and ask if they've heard of retroarch shaders
I called once and got him to agree to $300, he ignored me for like a week after that until I told him to just fucking tell me if wanted to sell it or not, and he told me the price is $700.

>>5951201
this so much.
Plus: their whole business is based around buying for cheap from people that "don't know what they have" and sell for the highest possible price.
because muh taxes, muh rent, muh employees, muh electricity.
Like hey, dipshit! Nobody asked you to open up a shop and make this hobby expensive, all you try to do is make profits.
Fuck resellers and fuck game shops

>win something on ebay
>almost immediately tries to resell on ebay for more than what was paid
Sure, buyer's remorse, something else came up, whatever. But what makes someone think that, even though just some weeks prior they were the person on ebay willing to pay more than anyone else on ebay, somebody else on ebay is now going to pay much more for the very same item?
>>5951354
Yeah, while I understand the argument, it also assumes that buyers should feel charitable and pay more to these shops, even though the people who run the shops are probably competing against their buyers in other avenues like craigslist and ebay. "Oh, thanks for snagging that market-rate craigslist deal the other day that I saw 10 minutes after you did, tossing it in your glass display case, and then marking it up 20% over ebay because you have to pay rent! Sure I'll pay more to support you because you're a local brick and mortar!"

>>5951383
dude, have you been to one of those shops recently?
The markup IS NOT 20%!
The shops near me want 80 Euros for a loose cartridge of Ocarina of TIme or Golden Eye. They pop up regularly for 20 or less. Those shop owners charge premium when it would be better for all customers if they didnt exist.

>>5951187
>Reseller hate
Dude, imagine hating another human being

>>5951476
>Not hating things that impact you or your hobby negatively
Spineless cuck

>>5951476
Those aren't human beings they're cockroaches.

>>5951202
I've found some of the pawn brokers are the worst at this. Ring up items $200, go into store oh sorry its $400 we totally legitlly gave you the wrong price honest.

I seen an 8" pvm with rgb super nintendo and it did look pretty fuckin good if im being honest
At my local videogame resellers place

>>5951196
I have a positive story for that. I bought an old game over ebay awhile back and when it came it came in a cute case that looked like the console with a two month return guarantee (even tho it was some small used game store run privatly) and on the guarantee there was a guide with common tricks to get old games working again. Game was in great condition tho so it was unneccesary but I thought it was really cute and he didnt list a guarantee on his page.

>>5951496
>He treats other human beings as things
Still don't hate you, my unlikable friend

>>5951510
Nah, they're just people who think differently than you do

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-PlayStation-Classic-Mini-Console/223645525701?epid=14031184296&hash=item34124fe6c5:g:t~IAAOSwkwJdKjiU

I found this seller recently and he cracks me up with his prices. I messaged him about what was so special about his £10000 ps1 mini and why I shouldn't buy one for £30 in a retail shop and he claims if its that cheap there must be something wrong with it! I don't think he sells much (and called me a cheapskate)

>>5951520
I'm not your friend buddy

>>5951187
>>I KNOW WHAT I HAVE
>NO LOWBALLS

My two favorites. And then on top of it, they think they deserve the highest of eBay BIN prices, not understanding that eBay has a return policy, the item is shipped to me rather than me driving out to bumfuck wherever to pick it up, and the item on eBay has usually been cleaned and fully tested, while I'm buying from you AS-IS.

>>5951456
$700 well spent anon

>>5951514
Because it’s small. If you want a good sharp picture OLED or high end BenQ IPS is the way to go. If you want a good CRT picture please don’t buy a PVM. They’re seriously a stupid purchase. Buy a nice smaller high end consumer set or older computer monitor that accepts S-Video or something. The commodore monitors are really nice and inexpensive for this

>>5951201
We should make threads where we post those and we can all just call them and waste their time and maybe eventually they'll quit doing that shit

It's just supply and demand. What you're really mad about is how popular your hobby is and the only reason to be so mad about it is that you yourself missed the boat on the prices by only getting into it after it had inflated

I actually feel kind of bad for "resellers" if these people actually are resellers. The profit in it is barely minimum wage. All you have to do is wait until one of them gets sick of it and buy him out for a pittance then cherry pick the inventory and "resell" everything else as a single lot to some other sporting reseller.

Something tells me the people that cry this hard about prices don't have the capital to make a move like that though.

You all sound like wannabe collectors. If you actually wanted games worth a few hundred dollars or so, you would have had them before they became collector's items. I have cds/lps that tripled+ in value because I bought them because I wanted them. Not gonna sell them until I'm an old man though. Stop bitching because you are all hipsters. Play on an emulator if you can't afford it.

>>5951738
>If you were actually a collector you would have bought games released in extremely limited quantities in another country when you were a pre-pubescent child

>>5951707
I can literally get Sony's on the street or the junk area of second hand shops for the equivalent of ten bucks, feel sorry for you guys.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Batman-Color-13inch-CRT-TV-with-DVD-Player-Collectible-Retro-TV-Set-RARE-HTF/274001570370?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D8a279d51adc24c0c9564cb2b4a769b4a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D274001570370%26itm%3D274001570370%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A7fde5b6e-f01c-11e9-9672-74dbd1800f45%7Cparentrq%3Ad4d9675816d0aad34e6c7877fffc4a8b%7Ciid%3A1

>>5951456
PVMs were worth it like 5 years ago when you could still get them locally and/or for good prices. They used to be the cheaper alternative to the framemeister. I have a few PVMs and a BVM from back in this time period that I got cheaply. But yeah, I would never pay hundreds for some fucking 13" monitor from that scalper eBay jew who always posts sonic title screen photos.

Also before someone says it, PC CRTs are also hard to come by and getting expensive now by proxy. I think the vest solution is to find a decent consumer TV in the 27-32" range with component and s-video inputs, along with an rgb transcoder box.

>>5951606
Same shit happens with shops and flea markets. Motherfucker, I'm not going to drive somewhere and rummage through tables and bins to MAYBE find something I'd want just to pay the same price I couldve gotten on ebay in 5 seconds

>>5951783
>Also before someone says it, PC CRTs are also hard to come by and getting expensive now by proxy.
Super glad I got a handful of high end ones from fellow collectors. These days if you want good CRTs and don't want to pay out the nose for them you've basically gotta get to know people in the hobby and trade or find someone who isn't a jew.

>>5951383
What pisses me off about stores that do that in my area, is technically they shouldn't need to do that, at all. They already have a brick and mortar setup, so people can just bring games to them to sell and trade with them. That's a huge benefit of having a storefront.

When they're scouring FB and craigslist for any games, that tells me A: They aren't getting enough trade in's on games because they likely offer fuck all for anything and are desperate for anything. B: Power trip/ ego thing "We're the big tough guys in the area so we gotta buy everything up all the time and at any price just to show people how big and rich we are".

>>5951783
>PVMs were worth it like 5 years ago when you could still get them locally and/or for good prices.
You still can but you have to turn over some rocks now.
Recently got a 13'' early 90s Sony PVM for $25. Is in amazing condition, and needed basically no tuning at all. Granted I picked it up from the place that got it a few hours after they received it, so it was pure luck.

>go to a retro game meetup
>people selling games at different booths
>no prices listed
"how much for this?"
>one sec bro *pops up ebay*

>>5951952
please tell me you're on the run from police for killing this man

>>5951959
I mean if they want to use ebay as their metric, fine, but do it BEFORE YOU GO. Instead of insulting me and saying "well gee the average price on ebay is $75 so thats what I'll charge you"

>>5951952
>go to retro meetup
>bring a TV and some unique game to set up for people to play
>90%+ of table space is occupied by people selling stuff
I guess it is to be expected, but part of me thought that a meetup would be more about people discussing and playing games as opposed to yet another venue for people to try to peddle their stuff.

>>5951187
I emulate everything I want lol

You make your own scarcity.

>>5951969
thats actually pretty sweet, keep doing that man

>>5951992
I mostly emulate anymore but output on a CRT and use adapters for original controllers.
IMO its the best of both worlds, since there is a shit ton of convenience with emulation.

Good God the level of cope in these threads is off the charts.
>p-p-pvms were never good!

I feel bad for you that you weren't able to get one back when they were cheap. There are other options that are perfectly fine and if you have the space a big set is nice too. They're not worth the price people want now but you can now rgb mod consumer sets.

PC monitors are also viable but if you're getting into the hobby this late and want to be cost effective may I recommend you a MISTer?

>>5952038
>positive anymore
Are you from the northwest?

>>5952043
...Yes?

>>5952046
Just making sure it hasn't spread elsewhere.

>>5952048
lol, k

>>5951187
On facebook it says this same item wasn't tested, WTF does he say good working condition?

>>5951742
OK?

>poorfag whining general
Car collectors pay tens of thousands for cars, and in many cases thousands of dollars for individual parts. Given you can actually emulate these games, the only reason to whine about the costs of retro videogame shit is "I want physical stuff but I'm too poor to afford it, FUCKING RESELLERS!"

Also, whining about the price of retro games isn't actually discussing retro games.

>>5952108
so much this.

>>5952108
Who gives a fuck about games, only a colossal retard would actually buy video games which can be played through a flashcard or emulation. The spike in CRT prices over the span of a mere year or so is the real shitty thing. It's basically been done by a handful of people too so it really doesn't feel like a natural cycle of demand and supply at all, especially when you realize that one man in huntington beach is actively hoarding a huge supply of CRTs and trickling them into the market.

you'd probably be pissed too if someone like jay leno was hoarding a literal mountain of classic cars and parts while slowly driving the price higher and higher.

>>5952620
Apparently things are even worse in the arcade community where the hoarding and gate-keeping is a million times worse.

It still drives me up a wall that people actually pay the prices of that one PVMeme scalper with the sonic pics. At the same time, I think it's hilarious that there's some fucking guy needing to hoard these heavy and space-consuming boxes trying to flip them for a couple hundred bucks here and there to a very niche audience. Imagine having to live like that to scrape by, lmao

>>5951969
>bring a TV and some unique game to set up for people to play
See if we did that over here that shit is just liable to be stolen immediately

>>5951520
>thinks differently than you
Yes, he sees a person and thinks
>wow I could make $700 off that sucker!

>>5952038
Is it hard to connect a PC to a CRT?

>>5951456
I spent $50 on my PVM.
I wouldn't recommend spending over $100 for one.

>>5952720
Wildly depends.
My PVM has VGA in so I just simply do that. With a consumer TV though, its a bit trickier.
You can use adapters like this, but I can't vouch for it's quality/latency.
https://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-HD1882-Composite-Converter-Monitors/dp/B009OMYHJU/
You can also use an older videocard that has S-video out like a Geforece Fx though 7 series. I've got a 7600GT AGP in a curious machine that can take a Core 2 Duo despite having an AGP slot (Is a ASRock 775i65g 3.0, they still sell new someplaces on the net)
There is also the option of some old Radeon cards can do SoG signals at 31hz, so you could output VGA on to component cables with those.

Far the most straight forward way is just to have a display that will accept VGA.

>>5952720
Nope. All you need is a graphics card with an analogue out (ie, VGA). From what I can tell, preferably AMD since that has better compatibility with CRT emudriver. Then you use BNC breakout cables plugged into a PVM and set it to output csync. Just follow the tutorial for crt_emudriver and you'll be golden.

>>5952742
Alright, so how's this setup for viability?
>Get a PVM which can take VGA
>Connect PC to PVM, set resolution to 640x480
>Load up emulators, set resolution options to "fullscreen, non-integer scale, stretch to screen"

>>5952108
I emulate everything, I just find it funny when people think 30 year old games are worth a fuck ton of money when you can emulate it for free. I'm never ever going to be buying original carts or hardware because that's throwing away money.

Collectorfags can still enjoy their hobby though.

>>5952770
Yup, would work totally fine doing that or even using 320x240, depending on the title.
If you dont have a VGA port you can also use one of these cheap adapters. They're an ASIC so there is next to zero latency from them. I've surprisingly never ran in to a resolution/frequency combo that one of these could not handle surprisingly.
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Mini-DisplayPort-VGA-Adapter/dp/B019D0LS4E/

>>5952737
Same. I would pick a larger component video television over a 19" PVM every single time.

I would maybe pay a few hundred dollars for a HUGE 36"+ production monitor like a Diamondtron or NEC X series just because those are sort of the "ultimate" monitor in my opinion. I have owned them in the past so I am speaking from experience.

>>5951741
Cherry picking, there are many US games worth a lot of money. Kuon and Rule of Rose off the top of my head. Maybe try and make more sense next time.

>>5951523
Lol, you are 100% correct.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/theblurayking/m.html?item=223645525701&epid=14031184296&hash=item34124fe6c5%3Ag%3At%7EIAAOSwkwJdKjiU&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

>>5952770
you don't need a VGA-capable monitor. You can set the graphics card to output 15khz RGBS at 240p

>REFURBISHED

I fix medical equipment during the week and then repair game consoles and accessories on the side in my spare time. I sell refurbished items so I don't see what's bad about that word.

>>5952895
Because while you might actually truly refurbish something, oftentimes "refurbished" just means some fag rubbed the outside shell with some isopropyl and blew some canned air into the slot.

>>5952742
sog is not component, people really need to stop saying this. also the real best solution is to either do a crt_emudriver setup with a sync processor to get composite sync or a rgbhv to ypbpr transcoder.

>>5952926
>crt_emudriver setup with a sync processor to get composite sync
emudriver can be set to output csync. No sync combiner required.

>>5952861
Not retro. kys

>>5951192
Shut up poorfag, those Ikegami monitors are extremely sought-after. Not worth $700 but you just know some redditor will come along and pay it.

>>5952941
Lol, ps2 is retro. You should take 4chan's idea of retro with a grain of salt. But if you want to split hairs, here you go: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=nes+game&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1&_udlo=35&_sop=16

Not sure why you think English games are worthless, but then again, this is 4chan.

>>5951201
Click "bundle duplicates" next time.

>resellers on Craigslist and Letgo who post screenshots of PriceCharting listings just to ensure you you're paying "fair market value"
Fuck that website, honest to god. Like has been said, why am I buying your shit and having to meet you for it when I could get a cleaner version shipped to me at the same cost?

>wants pvmeme
>complains about price
>impatient so ends up overpaying for one anyway
>post it on reddit that evening
>realize what you got is a small screen only marginally better than s-video on a consumer set.
>post set up regularly on reddit to make yourself feel better
Every time.

>>5953023
to be fair, small pvmemes are still good for desktop setups.

I understand the reseller hate ITT but I'm going to be completely honest: if you can get into the game it's worthwhile. I happened to luck into several dozen good to great condition monitors at a warehouse for $20 a pop a few years back.
>pick through them to find the one I wanted for myself
>realize I could probably make some cash selling them at even double the price so make a classified under the pretense that I own them all
>quickly flooded with responses, hard to keep up with them
>listing was mainly centered around 20M2 and 20L2 PVMs at $120 a piece
>sold three in a week
>take down listing and recreate it with a comprehensive list of models, manufacture dates, and higher yet still below typical prices
>quality of the listing has people coming from 400 miles away coughing up almost $600 at a time for weeks
>made $5000 in about 5 months before some literal e-celeb fag was at the warehouse carting out 12 monitors at once
Not a single fuck given if I "ripped people off" or anything. The fact is that these fools came running to me cash in hand to buy and I simply took them up on their business.

>>5953023
Nailed it.

>>5953054
>people coming from 400 miles away coughing up almost $600

>>5953054
I don't doubt it but it blows my mind that so many people are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a PVM.

>>5953067
I shit you not, I'm around Charlotte, and had a guy come from Orlando, another from Jacksonville and one from Nashville.

>>5953069
I wonder if they'd never seen one in person and go just by hype.

Please explain. If I'm an independent game store and I buy a 300 piece collection for ~$300 for the sake of argument, and there's a few games worth $50+, why are you mad? If I make my money back and maybe a few bucks, why are you made? In reality, the rest of the collection will takes years to sell. This is the kind of things they should teach in school, obviously whatever is going on in schools nowadays just isn't working if you can't understand basic retail. This thread should be called "independent stores hate thread".

>>5953069
I blame youtubers and their "best possible quality from X console" videos.

>seller listed pc engine 6 button controller
>sends me worthless pc fx controller as if I wouldnt notice
Fuck you

>>5952998
who the fuck are you even replying to, retard

jej

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-GDM-FW900-CRT-Monitor/383214896888

>>5953089
>4,500 dollarydoos
>local pickup only
>cash only
>4,500
>c a s h o n l y

>>5953079
This was definitely the case with some of the guys I sold to. A few didn't know how they'd hook up a console to a BNC jack and there was one guy who asked if I had the remote (kek).
But actually quite a lot of the guys were enthusiasts who brought RGB gear with them to test out the image quality before purchase and these guys were usually the ones who would leave with multiple. Most I ever sold was 4 to two dudes: a 14 incher and 3 20s for $600.

>>5953093
Forgot the real kicker. My investment on those was $85.

>>5953054
I just enjoy how $5k is some mind-blowing amount of money to people on this forum, worth transporting and storing enormous heavy metal boxes for months, researching the boxes and carefully creating online ads and dealing with strangers. All for a few thousand bucks. Jesus christ, some people just have no lives.
You would have to pay me literally $50k minimum to pick up and deal with reselling "several dozen" old televisions.

>>5953108
That's the way I feel about all of this sort of reselling shit. I couldn't imagine not having an actual income and having to rely on flipping random used shit online to make ends meet. Especially something that's just a logistical pain in the ass like big and heavy CRTs.

>>5951456
QRD on JVC ?

>>5953112
Some people just enjoy finding things and fixing them, the money is just a bonus. My best friend is always finding old road bikes and restores them and makes a decent amount of money off of it when he is done. He just likes fixing bikes.

>>5953120
I'm specifically talking about resellers/scalpers. The sort of people whose "jobs" are spamming ads on craiglist with a storage unit full of bullshit they hang around at.

>>5951470
Theres one near me un Southern California that hust straight up sells repros for beyond full collectible prices. As soon as i saw that i complained amd left and never returned

>>5953108
>I just enjoy how $5k is some mind-blowing amount of money to people on this forum,
Not mind blowing but considering the minimal effort it took me? It was incredible. At the time 5 grand was 6 months of working 40 hour weeks and I certainly only thought I would make a few hundred dollars with the venture at best. >worth transporting and storing enormous heavy metal boxes for months,
You can't read, then? My entire shtick was that I didn't have to store them or even purchase them until I was sure I had a sale closed. Misleading the buyers into thinking I owned them was just to stop them from looking for my source. And I don't know what kind of twink you must be that moving a 100 pound cube from a u-boat into a car trunk is physically taxing but you should see a doctor.
>researching the boxes
Didn't need to, since I'm not a zoomer faggot who learned about CRTs on the latest YouTube video. All the information anyone needs is on the labels.
>and carefully creating online ads
Ads which took me 20 minutes at most to make, where 90% of that was waiting for Craigslist to upload photos.
>and dealing with strangers
Pure autism. Effortless to just reply to emails or text messages every few days and I could arrange a meeting in a few messages. Sales are quick affairs, 30 minutes maximum.

The effort involved was basically the same as your average Salvation Army donation but yielded far more in return. Honestly I think you're just jealous.

>>5953138
>At the time 5 grand was 6 months of working 40 hour weeks
you were being paid 5 dollars an hour?

>>5953138
Most defensive post ever.
>5 grand was 6 months of working 40 hour weeks
Your time was worth $5 an hour? Well that does explain everything.
Sure, I'm just jealous, that's it. Really seething about it. Not laughing my ass off at you at all.

>>5953140
>>5953146
>what are taxes
Fucking zoomers.

>>5953150
you were being paid 7 dollars an hour?

>>5953150
>can't stop projecting about autism and zoomers
Ok you're right, your TV haul was le epic!

>>5953153
>what is minimum wage

>>5953171
what you were apparently making, lmao

I'm not sure what's more amusing, resellers getting pissed at people for not wanting to pay their fucktarded prices because "dey know wut dey got," or people who get assblasted at people reselling shit, or people who are so late to the party but so desperate to be hip in le retro club that they actually pay the retarded prices.

>>5951192
>https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/vgm/d/homestead-used-20-color-video-broadcast/6970729410.html

I remember seeing this a year ago for $200 and it still didnt sell lol. Fucking idiots

>>5952108
Fuck you fag, this pro monitor isn't even a 90s version. Its a ghetto 80s burned out piece of shit with rust everywhere from the Florida humidity

>>5951192
Do people pay this much for PVM/BVM tv's? Not for this particular model but for SONY ones for instance.

>>5951187
>Bandwagoner seething thread
FTFY

>>5953307
Yes.

>>5953092
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-GDM-FW900-CRT-Monitor/383214896888
And someone fucking paid it. Wtf is wrong with people.

>>5953307
Unfortunately so, and the matters haven't helped for actual Sony PVMs ever since that punchable faggot from DFRetro made a video fellating himself over how good it was to use a super expensive BVM for PS2 games, now every reseller thinks literally every single type of professional crt monitor is worth as much as what he used there.
If you didn't already get something already I'd say it's too late now, these are the new 1st party used Gamecube games and will stay like that for a good while.

>>5953542
I made a fuck ton more money with bitcoin that I never should have earned. Haters will hate, but one of the biggest lessons I've learned in life is that 90% of money that is made is done so without lifting a finger. Get in on that or don't.

>>5953307
ebay sold listings indicate yes

>>5953054
I remember getting three sought after CRTs at an auction this year for $150 total. I made my money back by selling the PVM-2530 I got from it for the price I paid for the whole lot. I kept the other two because I actually enjoy playing video games with these things more than buying and selling them.

Took me less than 5 minutes to find this. Now fight over it. I can find others.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=860&acctid=633

>>5953597
I guess for americans it can make some sense since they don't have TV's with RGB SCART while we don't have S-video TVs. Here the average price is 150€ for a BMV, the better ones are listed higher at around 250€ with the "collectors tax" firmly applied.

I guess for americans it can make some sense since they don't have TV's with RGB SCART while we don't have S-video TVs. Here the average price is 150€ for a BVM, the better ones are listed higher at around 250€ with the "collectors tax" firmly applied.

>>5952885
Most graphics cards are not capable of doing this. But some older ones are (mostly ATI cards)

>>5954051
My HD 7850 can do it no problem. AFAIK anything with analogue-out can. Just need to check the crt_emudriver page for compatibility. Most people probably have a spare GPU/PC laying around that can do it

>>5954053
>crt_emudriver
Interesting, last time I looked in to that it did not cover any Dx11 era cards. Good to know since I've got a HD5770 laying around.
Thanks for the heads up anon.

>>5954056
best of luck. It's pretty great for emulation as well as games that invoke an older style.

>>5954071
Is that on a PC monitor or CRT TV?

>>5954112
neither, bvm. And of course you could also use a CRT TV if you're either european or you use an RGB-Component transcoder.

>>5954152
Nice, really sharp and clear image.

>>5951738
>Not gonna sell them until I'm an old man
you mean until you suddenly die and your family/landlord just tosses your stuff in the trash so they can get on with their lives

>>5951695
Good idea. Send them a photo of your collection and a message like "hey my son just shipped off to the military and left this behind, all of its yours for $50 cash" and then give them an address at least 50 miles out

>>5951383
I don't sell to resellers I put em away

This is pretty much with anything on eBay

You're just going to leave it on a shelf unused until it gets given away in your estate sale, so you're worse than the reseller who is at least making it available to those who really want it.

>>5954483
devilish

>>5954497
What's the point of listings like that? Will some retarded zoomer child of a Saudi oil baron actually buy this?

>>5954660
It's fake.

>>5954536
I have to psychically kill my own brain cells to be able to see that windshield as teeth.

>>5954671
No, it's absolutely real. The seller lowered the price today though, probably after realizing nobody would even pay a fraction of the price for that. Don't underestimate the greed of people.

>>5953087
Someone can't read.

>>5954536
Keep seething, comrade.

just window shop and then load up the old Archive on your phone. Download whatever it is that they have and show it to them on your way out.

I've got 2 fw900s, should I sell one and for how much

>>5951952
Lazy on their end and an insult to the buyer. Never do business with these scumbags.

>>5951952
I guess you'd be lucky if they just priced at ebay. I wouldn't be surprised by "current highest asking (not sold) on ebay plus some upcharge."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mgiob_Svf8

tl;dw; - PVM scalper on ebay is an asshole

Are we at a point where
>most shop resellers just resell things they're buying from ebay resellers or from other local resellers who they caught "slipping" on prices
given that most people these days have probably either sold their old games or are aware that they can make more money selling on ebay than they can dumping them off at the local game store? How far are we from the market being a majority resellers buying from other resellers in a seemingly endless cycle of cash-out chicken, where slightly more optimistic resellers buy inflated price games from less optimistic resellers because they think that with in a year they can suck another $40 out of a game that already costs $300?

>>5951187
>STOCK PHOTO
^^this is inexcusable. Ebay, Amazon;et al needs to ban anyone who doesn't have a photo of the actual product because there's no excuse anymore with cameras everywhere.

>>5953130
gamedude?

>>5956256
The market peaked in 2016

if youre stupid enough to buy this shit (and you zoomer faggots of course are) then you deserve it. so fuck off.

>>5951992
Truth. Repros and Emulation both do wonders against collectorfags.

>>5952108
I agree with you completely. Those who have low standards and enable the behavior only have themselves to blame. Piracy and buying boxed versions of Repros on AliExpress (if you want to play close to the original way) is the way to go. Deflate the value of these stingy collectorfags.

>>5952637
No doubt does that make me mad as well. People need to stop accepting Boomers and thier retarded ways. They do this with the Housing Market(with no renovations), Arcades, cartridges and even try this with rare games. At least with Arcades and Cartridges there is Repros and companies trying to make them to devalue the retarded scheme.

>>5951738
so you're a fucking hoarder nerd consumer
good for you lmao
sold off all my shit years ago
you should too

>>5953597
>that punchable faggot from DFRetro
Glad I'm not alone.

>>5951783
So PVMs are to TVs what the 240SX was to rwd shitboxes?

>>5953108
Ok Jeff Bezos.

>>5953112
Ok Elon Musk.

>>5957021
E30 M3s would be a more accurate comparison. Went from going as low as $7k within five years of being discontinued to going back to costing as much as their original MSRPs due to people overvaluing them.

>>5957036
Such fat and dark scanlines on a small screen doesn't look good to me, it reminds me of old emulators and the 25% and 50% scanlines where it would run black lines horizontally.

>>5953115

Just a generic mass produced brand among many others

>>5957009
You seem to have completely missed the point. What a shocker.

>>5951192
Lol fuckin gringos

>>5952720
>zoomzoom

>>5957616
>boomboom

>>5957251
JVC is a name brand like Sony and makes excellent products. It's not generic.