/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5951018
I’m sure studios who made jrpgs certainly noticed and appreciated it, I’d imagine space limitation with carts were a big thing to have to work with, and the music and sfx guys probably liked it because now you could have better music and sounds.

>>5951018
>build MEGACD into model 2.
>offer add-on as upgrade path for model 1 owners.
>release all new games on CD
>all new Genesis/MegaDrive owners suddenly have MEGACD, marketshare is basically 80%
>developers release on CD since manufacturing and shipping costs are so much lower and they make way more per game sale
>model 1 owners all upgrade to play newer games, market share 99%
All they had to have done to make the damn thong successful.

>>5951039
the SoJ/SoA feud was already in full swing by the time the CD launched, and the arcade branch was burning money like water, unfortunately it wouldve never worked

>>5951047
Just because SEGA failed to do it doesn't mean that they shouldn't have done it

>>5951039
Wouldn't that have made the model 2 genesis twice as expensive though? I imagine many developers would have stuck to making model 1 cartridge games as a budget thing.

>>5951060
These kids think cd drives were as cheap as a knockoff discman from CVS was in 2005

>>5951039
>Make it cheaper
>Don't market it as a FMV machine, as there's plenty of great titles with actual gameplay
Done. It was literally that easy.

>>5951060
>>5951065
No?
The Model 1s were already discounted by the time model 2 came out. The Model 2 would just retain the launch price of the Model 1.
Seeing as how the CD add-on was a hundred bucks as a standalone, retail product, integrating into the model 2 would be even cheaper to manufacture since you only have to ship and stock one product. There wouldn't be any issues with profit margins on CD-enabled Model 2s.

>>5951039
You mean if they copied the PC Engine?

>>5951073
>There wouldn't be any issues with profit margins on CD-enabled Model 2s.

>Profit margins

I'm not trying to be glib here but you seem to be ignorant of the entire business model in regards to selling consoles. Trip Hawkins made that mistake

>>5951072
Making it addon-only means it's an optional product that few people will happen to bother buying.
If only a few people own it, nobody will want to make games for it.

Including it into the model 2 would have jumpstarted it's adoption.

>>5951082
>easily able to sell consoles at a profit-maxing price and still turn a healthy product
What's the downside here? They could have sold the damn thong with the CD drive enabled and still had room and flexibility to to lower cost or eat profits depending on what was needed.

>>5951092
I'd imagine it was too late at that point, what with the playstation being revealed the same year it launched in Europe.

You should re-check your history and remake this thread asking how important the PC Engine CD was.

>>5951018
PC Engine CD was arguably more seminal than the Mega CD.

>>5951073
>There wouldn't be any issues with profit margins on CD-enabled Model 2s.
What do you mean "there wouldn't be any issues with profit margins". That's like saying there wouldn't be any issues with making money if we adopted your idea. Making money is the entire thing and it matters how much money you make, you can't just disregard it and say it "wouldn't be an issue".

It's a decent idea to have it in model 2 as standard. That might well work. But don't force game makers to adopt the CD technology - what if their game is really small and would make more profits through cartridge? If the CD technology isn't attractive enough to be used by some developers then why force it? Again your only goal and the CD drive might help you to do that, your goal isn't to force something to be a success so you can say "hey look, we did that and it was a great success".

>>5951073
>There wouldn't be any issues with profit margins on CD-enabled Model 2s.
What do you mean "there wouldn't be any issues with profit margins". That's like saying there wouldn't be any issues with making money if we adopted your idea. Making money is the entire thing and it matters how much money you make, you can't just disregard it and say it "wouldn't be an issue".

It's a decent idea to have it in model 2 as standard. That might well work. But don't force game makers to adopt the CD technology - what if their game is really small and would make more profits through cartridge? If the CD technology isn't attractive enough to be used by some developers then why force it? Again your only goal is to make more money, the CD drive might help you to do that by facilitating more/better games, your goal isn't to force something to be a success so you can say "hey look, we did that and it was a great success".

Not very. It wasn't even the first CD-based console.

>>5951018
I think the better question is (good or bad)how important was the Sega 32X in video gaming history?

>>5951018
LIke I give a fuck. All I want is to play video games.

>>5951018
The Sega CD wasn't that big of a deal.

The TurboGrafx CD on the other hand was a major deal. It gave developers of some genres like RPGs and adventure games a ton of breathing room that cramped, expensive SNES cartridges couldn't hope to provide.

>>5951801
What's your fucking point exactly? Are you retarded?

>>5952063
>newer system was better than the one from 1988
It's funny because MD is still more relevant than NEC's little failure.

>>5951039
The whole point of it being an add on was to avoid alienating the install base of the Genesis with what was basically an incremental upgrade. Same as the 32X on a less retarded timeline.

>>5953016
Jesus fucking christ, stop projecting. You're the one who is retarded and who made no decent point.

I made several good points in a polite and constructive way and that's seriously your response? Holy shit. I explained in excruciating detail that even the dumbest motherfucker could understand. I even commented that having it built in model 2 was a decent idea to begin with but you need to not have your post all turn into shit after that. Sorry if I overwhelmed your brain.

Sony literally invented CDs and they were the biggest Japanese company ever back then. People were afraid they were gonna take over the world. The PlayStation brand literally only exists because Nintendo was too dumb to use CDs. I don't want to get too non-retro here, but Sony basically raped the Dreamcast so hard by just the promise alone of existing after how successful the PS1 was, and with the new innovation of DVD. Sony has always been innovators and appealing to the core and mainstream audiences, that's why they win every console cycle.

>>5953269
They raped Sega because they had 10 times their budget in a time when marketing was everything when the internet was in its infancy.

>>5953019
>NEC's little failure

Are we talking about the Turbografx-16 or its Japanese counterpart, the PC Engine CD though? The PC Engine CD did well in Japan. I'm assuming >>5952063 is referring to that on account of his mentioning of RPGs and adventure games.

>>5953016
>>5953041
samefag.

Alternatively this helps make me understand why many internet forums ban cursing, because it promotes constructive discussion and people aren't as likely to pat themselves on the back for having, what is for them, the enormous patience to temporarily indulge in it. If only we had the self-imposed discipline to avoid saying "fuck" or "retard," we were just getting somewhere.

>>5951018
PC Engine CD came out several years prior and was much more important in Japan, it just didn't do FMV nearly as well

>>5951832
Ib my opinion it destroyed Sega. Saturn was on its way, why do you need an addon to already old console not year before Saturn comes out? It really hurt Sega and is responsible for lower Dreamcast sales

>>5955142
Naive little Autistic
>>>/reddit/

>>5953030
Yeah, well makong add-ons optional is the same as saying, "you don't really need this".

You have to build it into new models for it to be the future of the platform. How is this difficult to understand?

>>5953041
No? Make a clear point. I can't understand what you're trying to say because you won't say it.

>>5951832
>let's make a shitty SEGA Saturn months before the real one
>let's sabotage the dev team on the actual Saturn
>let's make it an add-on