/vr/ - Retro Games

$0. I’m not a faggot, I don’t want an OSSC or to play on a flatscreen.

>>5945221
>480i switching still doesn't work
nah thanks I prefer the original way to play and it just fucking works

>>5945318
are you sure?
https://youtu.be/THdwptzMMpA

Will this be useful to me if my Xbox/PS2/Wii are connected over YUV? Xbox in native 1080i/720p.

>>5945707
no, deinterlacing on it is shit

>>5945221
>buy third party shit from China
I like my home not being on fire thanks

>>5945993
Where do you think the official* ones are made?

*it's an open source design, the only difference is you're not paying the middle-man's markup.

>>5946014
I don't want any of them. They're all firestarters as far as I care

>>5946021
Nice goalpost moving.

Why are you even in this thread anyway?

how good are these for retro pcs? Can they detect all the different resolutions and refresh rates correctly?

Did they ever make Chinese copies of those Retrovision HD cables?

>>5945221
Nothing. I built something similar that better fit my requirements before the OSSC was made.

>/vr/ has become completely bereft of sincere, sane human beings

And here I came into this thread out of curiosity on the actual topic. How stupid of me.

>>5945221
I use shaders.

>>5945221
Nothing. I would have bought one but heard it is shit for PS2.

I still don't understand the point of all this shit instead of just emulating on the PC you already have.

>>5946934
It's better because it's REAL hardware as opposed to that fake shit on your pc.

>>5946934
Are you confused thinking this is an emulation device?

>>5946986
I know it's not, it just seems like a lot of work and money when emulation is already so good for pre-5th gen stuff.

>>5946917
Now that the /v/irgins have let up on 6th gen shitposting, they've made themselves at home with the A/V dorks since elitism and snobbery is par, and it doesn't require playing any video games.

>>5946996
The only reason I use real hardware is the guarantee it works and is easy for normies to get (also helps I have it all and money with a large house to keep it).

Hand a casual a Dreamcast and 4 controllers and they can set it up in 5 minutes. Hand them a laptop and 4 good usb controllers and ask them to get the DC emulator going and watch them crumble into retardation. Even factoring in my DC has HDMI won't slow anyone down, and XRGB/OSSC rarely slows down setup also.

>>5947097
Who says anyone let up on that? /vr/ is an echo chamber of NES to 1999 hardware talk. Where other communities (entire fucking internet) have been including sixth gen for a few years now as retro. /vr/ =/= retro anymore. It means /vr/.

>>5945221
Link? Ill get one if its cheap enough

>>5947104
Just because it's the only thing you use it for doesn't mean that's all it is. And nobody has to "say" anything, you can observe for yourself. Or can't you.

>>5946014
There's a difference between made IN China, and made BY China.

I didn't. Bought the the official one from VGP that actually donates money to the creator because I'm not a greedy cunt that cares for a 10 to 30 dollar price difference but wants people that actually put in the effort to get something for it. To be fair, when I boughy mine, chink shit wasn't an option. But them stealing every aspect of the VGP design and even using sending chink customers to VGP is pure insectoid behaviour.

>>5946934
The real silicon isn't going to exist forever, may as well get as much use out of it as we can while it's around and working.

>>5945221
I bought mine from VGP before the Chinese sellers existed.

>>5946028
It'll detect just about anything you'd care to throw at it. Works great with 15 kHz and 24 kHz. Haven't tried 21 kHz EGA yet, but I assume it would work as well with an appropriate DAC.

>is called Open Source Scan Converted
>is not actually open source

>>5947104
Sixth gen would belong to /v2k/ (as well as all the other crap we discussed on /v/ back when 4chan is in its prime), but gookmoot only cares about adding furry boards and most disgusting ads imaginable.

>>5945985
>no, deinterlacing on it is shit

This so much. It's a fucking eyesore.

To be precise, the problem isn't that it has shit deinterlacing, it's that it does no deinterlacing whatsoever. Only this basic bob/line doubling, which makes the image constantly shaking and gives you seizures.

>>5947501
>doesn't know what open source is
>can't even spell the name of the project correctly
kek

>>5947508
To do it well would require buffering an entire field. The existing hardware can't handle that.

>>5945985
>deinterlacing on it is shit
So is there a good alternative to what this device does? Yeah I know, CRT, but I mean an actual alternative to OSSC.

>>5947563
>>5947501
It's open source but it's not free as in freedumbs.

>>5947585
Framemeister

>>5947693
Cheers.

>>5947640
How so? Looks to me like the firmware is GPLv3 and the most recent hardware revision is public domain with both on github.

>>5945234
fpbp

>>5947446
I'm talking vertical refresh rate, not the horizontal scan rate. Like 60-70, 72, 75, 85hz at 320x200-1024x768.

>>5947097
You hit the nail on the head, my friend - and as you can see moderation is clearly complicit.

>>5947747
All of those work fine.

>>5947446
>low radiation
>this is an advertisement
low poison, I swear

>>5947508
How did you ever survive CRTs? 480i is just as flickery on those.

>>5948000
so if you use a 120hz monitor with the ossc, it will correctly display higher refresh rates without stuttering?

>>5948157
Stuttering is up to your display, not the OSSC.

>>5947508
The whole point in the OSSC's implementation is that its basically lag free. If you want it to look better then just use the passthrough mode so your TV de-interlaces it itself. If you were playing on a CRT, any interlaced content is going to have a degree of flicker anyway, so it's hardly a nuisance.

>>5947501
https://github.com/marqs85/ossc

>>5948208
>just use the passthrough mode so your TV de-interlaces it itself
No point in having the OSSC then.

>>5948180
so can it do 960p for any refresh rate at 640x480 from a pc?

>>5948361
Except for, you know, all the other things the OSSC can do. Few retro games use 480i exclusively.

>>5948403
I can only test up to 85 Hz because that's as high as my monitor will sync, but it works fine. 1280x960 @ 120 Hz would be pushing the limits of the HDMI transmitter, so I don't know if that would work.

>>5948453
so does the monitor need to have a 1:1 scaling option in order to not have it scale the 960p ossc signal?

I don't really get what's the point of it other than capturing original game footage.

If I want to play on a flat screen there are plenty of first party options with HD/480p ouptut not to mention emulation and the vast majority of filters and improvements. If I want to have an authentic experience then I hook up the console to a CRT and play the way these games were designed to be displayed.

An OSSC is like $150 so if someone has that kind of money to blow on retro gaming I imagine they're already knee deep into it and are well aware of the console + CRT combo, so who the fuck buys these? Who the fuck is trying to play Nintendo 64 on a 4k TV?

>>5947640
You mean they don't give away the finished product to stupid people?

>>5948550
>Who the fuck is trying to play Nintendo 64 on a 4k TV?

>>5948550
>Who the fuck is trying to play Nintendo 64 on a 4k TV?
The majority of "retro gamers" these days. You're delusional if you think otherwise.

>>5948573
>>5948578
to be fair though, 4K is superior to 1080p when it comes to upscaling 240p because 4k is an even multiple of 240 whereas 1080p is not. However AFAIK there do not yet exist any scalers that go to 4K. Yet.

>>5948603
then just have the tv scale the ossc signal

>>5948573
Every hipster/zoomer/bandwagoner who doesn't want to/can't play on something else. There's millions of them.

>>5948603
There are scalers that do 4K and have been for many years. The 1080/240 arguments have always made me chuckle at the autism involved. Faggots who won't play on a 36" CRT because muh >9000" LCD, but if you letterbox 60 pixels REEEEEE!

>>5948627
Then you rely on the TV's scaler. Somehow you're missing the entire point.

>>5945221
>not using a Wii for retro gaming
>not using a CRT as "the filter"

>>5949040
>using outdated emulators and having more latency than original hardware

>>5949051
>having more latency than original hardware
I've proven that is untrue. I can do shit that is extremely precise and takes precision timing, so I feel secure is pronouncing you full of shit. Emulation for NES is 1:1 on 99% of the games, you know.

>>5949051
Don't get me wrong, though, nothing's faster than the original hardware, and those run-aheads are obviously cheats.

>>5946934
most people don't realize you can run emulators in software mode.
Or for the price of this scaler you could get an FPGA

>>5949150
>you can run emulators in software mode.
Not them, but why would you want to do that? Wouldn't that make things slower?

>>5949153
if your PC is shit, yeah.

>>5949161
What's the advantage?

>>5949164
digital output without needing a scaler

>>5949170
Thank you.

>>5949071
>zoomer bullshit
kek

>>5949420
I play on original hardware on emulators and if the emulation is spot on, there is no difference on most NES games, in fact, nearly all of them except the oddballs are identical. If you're experiencing latency, it's either your TV or your emulator set wrong. Even the "out of date" ones on Wii are usually superior anything else you'd find, probably because the Wii was designed to work best with CRTs-so no upscaling/lag.

>>5949420
I play on original hardware and emulators and if the emulation is spot on, there is no difference on most NES games, in fact, nearly all of them except the oddballs are identical. If you're experiencing latency, it's either your TV or your emulator set wrong. Even the "out of date" ones on Wii are usually superior anything else you'd find, probably because the Wii was designed to work best with CRTs-so no upscaling/lag.

>>5949431
>more zoomer bullshit
kek. Just because you don't notice the difference emulating EB doesn't mean there's no difference.

>>5949706
>I...I got nothing so..YER A ZOOMER
Gut gud mudderfugger

>>5948481
it needs to support 960p first, not many do

>>5950078
He's talking about a PC monitor, dumbass. 99% of them support 960p (I would say 100%, but there's probably some chink piece of shit out there that doesn't).

>>5950087
they'll support it and do a shit bilinear upscale, unless they can do 1:1, in which case, since pretty much all high refresh rate monitors are 1440p+, it will be in a tiny window.

>>5948361
I just got one last week, it offers a lot of options even if you were just going to passthrough 480i content.

For starters, on modern TVs connections like composite and especially component are on deaths door, this device allows you to hook all your composite consoles to the TV with lots of options to tweak.

480P -> 960P is pretty awesome stuff, and live 5xinf on 240P content is pretty impressive looking.

>>5948550
Believe it or not, some people like to play games on both.

I own a nice condition CRT which has its own little setup in the basement but I also have a nice 65" OLED setup in the living room with a comfy ass couch and a fireplace which is pretty appealing, especially during the winter.

Going back and fourth between the two, the games looks pretty damn nice on the OLED screen also. Just enjoy both, its okay.

>>5949823
>I...I got BTFO so..ZOOMER IRONIC PROJECTING
kek

>>5945221
I’m actually interested, I always held back from the OSSC because of the price. Where do you find the chink ones, eBay?