/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5945007
omg, zoomers and poor folk. dont be mad you can afford a BVM...and stop trying to post things with utmost minutia to point out incorrect view point.

>>5945007
sony is the worst for modern TVs you're an idiot if you buy them for retro or any gaming

There's a CRT general you retard.

Fall for the meme, you get reamed.

>>5945013
umm what dude? you have revealed yourself to be a moron.

>>5945007
Yeah, I think that shadowmask looks so much better. You don't need RGB or crazy stuff.

S-Video is enough. Component for more modern systems.

>>5945007
Right is supposed to look better, right?

>>5945007
Was it too much of a pain to state what the left and right side of the pic are? Like model, means of connection, etc? Or do you not have either and are just LARPing right down to the 'carry up stairs' schtick in every thread?

>>5945013
lmao what

do you prefer oversaturated, over contrasted shit LG and Samsung pump out? OP isn't even referring to a modern TV, but Sony is among the best options for a modern television if you're willing to pay for a good model. still make the best professional broadcast monitors, thank god for the BVM-HX310 V1.1 I have in my office.

>>5945007
Did you buy an HD CRT for retro games?

>>5945102
Yes
>>5945108
Left Trinitron obviously, are you LARPing as a non retard? Yes it would be a pain to get the model numbers for you especially after you tricked me into this shit you can fuck right off with your entitled attitude, choke on a cock.

>>5945327
Instead of seething at me and making a sputtering, stuttering mess of your posts how about you tell us what fucking tv's you are using, what cables, etc? If you just bought a tv the model number shouldn't be a total mystery to you.

I don't know what kind of busted, out of spec, 8", 250tvl Trinitron OP bought but don't believe his delusional ranting.

>>5945007
holy shit you fucking moron, it's a HD crt every one says that it's shit for retro consoles. You're a retard.

>>5945613
>>5945614
Or maybe CRTs aren’t universally amazing like you fags say and it’s all in your fookin head

>>5945623
SD video looks like shit on HD tvs

>>5945007
Right looks honestly better. Adjust the settings a bit.

>>5945679
Doesn't this depend on the scaler?

The reasons I feel memed are that on the expensive TV left Sonics shoes look less details, his pupils are rectangles instead of ovals, the colors aren't right no matter how much I adjust them, and edges of separate objects on screen aren't as defined so the entire picture looks a little more washed out.
>>5945382
For acting this childish you definitely don't get anything now
>>5945683
That's my point, right is shit TV

>paying

>>5945679
480p looks great on my HDTV.

>>5945623
I don't think anyone says all CRTs are universally amazing. It's horses for courses.

Take >>5945613 for example. It's a 450tvl consumer set (KX-14CP1) displaying what it was designed to display, SD.

OP's set, allegedly an HDCRT was never designed for SD and therefore it looks like shit, just like flat panel HDTVs do when fed a raw SD source.

Pic related is a CRT monitor designed to display at 1600x1200 being fed a 240x3840 image. Some people love this BVM-like thicc scanline look but I personally don't.

It's disingenuous to lump all CRTs together. Get one which suits the application you intend for it.

>>5945007
You overpaid for the wrong type of Trinitron. Well done.

>>5946072
>That's my point, right is shit TV
Are you sure you're not trolling? My Sony CRT has a few picture enhancers that almost look like a shitty emulator filter like in your pic. Turn them off.

>>5946141
Not trolling, left is Sony CRT with no weird settings on

>>5946581
Late era Sony CRTs had so much digital processing and image enhancers in them that they really resemble early LCDs rather than CRTs. But they take the worst of both technologies when it comes to how they handle retro games. What an eyesore.

>>5945007
>he bought an HDTV for retro games

>>5946613
Absolutely obliterated by the meme.

/v/-tier thread.

>>5946120
>Just like flat panels do when fed a raw SD source
You'd be surprised. My main display at the moment is a Bravia from about a decade ago. Being fed component PS1 games through a PS2, even my PAL copies look surprisingly great on it with no external scalers needed. Doesn't do so crash hot on a full 576i game like you'd get out of a PS2 by default but using a modded system to feed it NTSC roms instead? 480i/p looks pretty great on it too. I think I like it more than PS1/2 support over HDMI on PS3, which was my previous solution.

I'm getting sidetracked, my point is that there's HD TVs out there that do a commendable job with SD inputs.

>>5946987
It'll still see 240p as interlaced though.
Find a 60hz flicker and you'll note that it is instead two interlaced fields.
I have a really nice Panasonic 52" plasma from around 2008 that does a great job on s-video/component input except that it does this. 99% of the time it isn't noticeable.

>>5945007
dont sit 1 inch away from the screen problem solved

>>5947208
Yeah, that's the one drawback. But if you're not noticing it without actively finding a way to show it off? It's not a massive issue. The setup's not the absolute best picture you can get but it also doesn't need to be, just good enough that it doesn't trigger my picture autism.

>>5947213
I notice it when playing phantasy star 4 whenever I do any space travel.
Also whenever I take damage in Castlevania on NES or any number of other NES games.
Or when a battle starts in final fantasy 3 on NES.

>>5947226
My thing is more the early 3D era, so those kinds of effects don't come up so often in the things I'm playing.

>>5947239
OK, I can't really objectively blame you for having bad taste.

>>5947248
I would've thought the 'fed component PS1 games through a PS2' would've been a bit of a giveaway there.

>>5947264
I thought that was just an example, I didn't think you had exclusively bad taste.
Also it's noticeable sometimes in SOTN

>>5945007
Don't pay out the ass for a pvm anon just gotta hunt em. There's no rush.

>>5946987
>>5947208
Tru dat.

<Raw Scart from a megadrive into a 2008 Pioneer PDP-428xd.

Never seen a 1080p or higher one do it well though.

>>5945007
look at this retard who bought an HD CRT for 240p content that isn't even natively supported. HD CRTs have all the same scaling/lag issues for 240p as flat panels do

>brightness of image on left is overblown to the point you can't tell the difference between Sonic's eyes and cheek
>WAH IT SUCKS
Learn to calibrate your shit.

>>5945007
Which

>>5947507
That picture has the same problem. That looks like ass. It looks like an LCD with a shader.

>>5945321
This is what happened. OP is clearly an idiot

>>5945007
Sonic CD.

>>5945007
Slot mask is actually better for most games. It's why CRT-Royale defaults to it. Trinitron is a marketing meme.

>>5945007
>finally gets to play games as they were designed
>complains

>>5946110
480p is ED video

>>5945012
yea we dont take kindly to people who cant afford the best hardware here on /vr/ ... which is for retro shit thats outdated...

>>5949684
I thought shadow mask was best?

>>5949684
>>5950032
>why would people want square pixels?

>>5945613
What game has a gun toting elf in it?

>>5950168
It's Midnight Wanderers, one of the "Three Wonders"

>>5950481
Never heard of it, but it looks great. I'll check it out.

>>5945007
>TV
Neat, I'm flashing back to 2005 just remembering those used to exist.

>>5950657
Based CRT hermit.