/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5934460
>deep gameplay
I think this is what you zoomers get confused with when you try to wrap your head around Ocarina of Time being a great game. You're confusing being a great game with being the most technically complex light and sound prompted finger jab button puzzle.
You or someone like you asked in the last thread about why others haven't copied OoT, and this is why. It's all the ways the game is good that isn't a function of finger jab button puzzling. You can copy technical shit and reproduce what seems like the same formula for gameplay. But you'll be missing the most important part which is the whole cinematic experience and engaging charm that makes you actually want to play.

>>5934460
>>5934298
kys op.

>>5934530
I kind of like OP better now that I realize he was just meme-ing.

>>5934528
You also missed an important part

>>5934460
Oh it's this shit again.

>>5934528
>zoomers
>knowing what gameplay is, let alone complex gameplay
Anon, you're giving them too much credit. They just shit on OOT because it's popular and guaranteed (You)s.

>>5934546
Z-Targeting was important too, sure. Also redeads, day / night cycle, biggoron sword, Forest Temple being all mysterious with ghosts and the twisted hallway and that sick soundtrack, and the great synergy between puzzle solving and action so that you got a neat happy medium between either extreme which made full use of the new 3D environment in a way that wouldn't really work the same in prior 2D settings.
If not any of that though, come out and say what you mean, passive-aggressive pussy footing faggot.

>>5934528
/thread

>>5934546
The part where Oot is a shitty shallow game only liked by n64babbys for "muh atmosphere".

>>5934584
Not appreciating atmosphere is another way of saying autism.

>>5934586
And appreciating atmosphere too much (i.e. thinking it can carry an otherwise shitty game all on its own like ootfags) is another way of saying autism. And frankly I'm hardly impressed by the atmosphere in the game anyways, it's all very bland and cliche fantasy.

Contrarians are mentally ill.

Unthinking conformists are mentally ill.

still not argument OP.

>>5934596
>the only way to not be a conformist is to be a contrarian!

>>5934589
If you don't appreciate the atmosphere of Forest Temple you have no taste at all. And I don't mean that as some hyperbole insult. It's more like this is the equivalent to you being deaf or blind, but for abstract aesthetic perception instead of direct sensory input. I expect they might have medicine for you fifty years into the future after neuroscience is fleshed out more, which is convenient because OoT will still be great at that time.

Are you a butthurt Sonic Adventure fan, OP?>>5934530

>>5934604
>the only way to not like my babby childhood game is to be a contrarian!

>>5934618
>he titles his wojak meme files
oh zoomers.
anyway, OOT will always be more of a real game than whatever your childhood game was.

>>5934608
Lmao, fucking delusional. An Ootfag of all things has no right lecturing ANYONE on taste. Zelda in general is as basic bitch as it gets.

>>5934618
You're objectively as contrarian as is possible for video games by not liking OoT. It's not like all the praise is some nostalgia thing that came up after the fact. Go look up the reviews and ratings from the time. Multiple publications gave OoT perfect scores when they had never given out a perfect score to any game beforehand and had to break internal policies to do so for this game. Everyone freaked out over it. You can claim everyone was wrong, but you can't claim you're not being contrarian.

>>5934632
>WAAAAH YOU HAVE TO LIKE MY SHITTY GAME WAAAAAAAAAHH
Shut the fuck up you stupid brat. Grow up.

>>5934636
>mad zoomer telling people to "grow up"
This thread is cute.

stop embarrassing yourself op.

>>5934637
Cope. At 31 there's like a 50/50 chance I'm older than you as it is.

>>5934460
4 you

>>5934641
You could be lying, who cares. You act like a zoomer.

>>5934641
I beat you by two years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_G7Haf1aOI

>>5934659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEWOeiUmFgA
The OOT ost is one of the best soundtracks ever, video games or not.

>>5934648
And you act like an autistic, shit taste retard that can't think for himself.

>>5934667
It's nothing special, but it's definitely better than the rest of the game.

>>5934667
For sure. If it *were* a trash game it would still be something of note for the soundtrack alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XD4EjeXe1A

>>5934673
You're either baiting or have no soul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO_EuvlncIo

>>5934673
>>5934669
cope OP, people like OOT.
go cry about people not caring about your childhood games on /v/

>>5934685
There are so decent tracks in this shitty game (not exceptional, but decent), but this is not one of them.

>>5934692
>go cry about people not caring about your childhood games on /v/
You mean like you're doing right now? LMAO, gigacope.

>>5934460
>>5934720
Again OP?

Blessed thread.

FUCK OOT AND FUCK N64 PEOPLE

>>5934747
Hi OP. Seethe harder, OOT will still be regarded as the best video game ever made well after we're all dead.

>>5934731
You don't rank OoT songs. They each served their respective functions well.
Goron music gave you that vaguely Mario Bros. underground theme sounding quality with the rhythmic barking goofiness that characterized that race.
Forest Temple had that spooky haunted mansion overran by flora feeling to it.
Hyrule Market you got that upbeat medieval festival vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55HCouRW6nA

>>5934731
>You mean like you're doing right now?
I'm not crying, in fact you're the only one crying here, OP.
And this isn't /v/, which is why you're so mad: You can't talk about your childhood games here.

I LOVE OoT and think it’s easily among the top 5 Zeldas games. But let me play devil’s advocate for the OP for a moment since he’s not presenting any real arguments against OoT.

The quality of craftsmanship behind Ocarina of Time is something that can’t be denied. But I’ve encountered older Zelda fans who, to put it nicely, think the atmosphere of something like the Forest Temple could have been put to better use in a different game. These are fans who felt disenfranchised after Eiji Aonuma took over the series and the 3D entries became puzzle focused than the 2D entries ever were; this change could be argued to have begun with Ocarina of Time, where Aonuma was given the task of designing dungeons. Now the obvious counter to this complaint is that LttP and LA’s dungeons also featured many puzzles. The key difference is, I think in the number of enemies and obstacles as contrasted with the amount of time required to solve each puzzle. LA was the start of a trend of puzzles that required you to slow and down and circumnavigate several floors in order to solve puzzles and progress to the final boss, but the move to 3D took this to a new level.

Whereas fans who grew up with the NES and SNES Zeldas saw them as primarily action and adventure focused, with intense, enemy swarmed dungeons, and an additional focus on item upgrading, spell-learning, and discovery, all within the trappings of a high fantasy world, the very first dungeon of OoT has you searching for torches and then running around trying to light them all before they extinguish. And from there the amount of time spent stopping to observe your surroundings rather than fight off enemies only increases with each dungeon and subsequent Zelda game. Skyward Sword, with its lack of an overworld, was considered the ultimate low point of Aonuma Zelda. Breath of the Wild seems to have returned the series to its more action and exploration based roots, but some fans who grew up on Puzzelda hate it for that.

why is /vr/ so easy to bait?

>>5934751
Not me, stay seething.

>>5934753
Actually yes I do, that track just sucks is all.

>>5934756
You are dude don't lie. If you weren't seething you wouldn't care over someone not like your shitty childhood game.

>>5934760
This thread is just everyone calling OP a faggot and posting OOT music. The "troll" was hardly successful.

>>5934760
Zeldababbys are super insecure because deep down they know OoT is shit. They can't handle any dissent as they fear the whole charade will come crashing down if they allow it to continue unsuppressed.

>>5934764
>I-I'm n-not OP
OK.
Also nice reddit spacing.

>>5934770
>o-only one person could ever dislike my shitty childhood game! ;~;
lmao my god you are pathetic.

mental illness

>>5934773
You keep using the same words, OP. It's easy to tell it's you. Also IP count, also IRC channel for mods, lol. You're too new here. Lurk silently or go back to /v/, reddit, or wherever you came from.

>>5934778
Yeah yeah, keep coping you insecure fuck. The only reason you're so insecure over the game getting shit on is because you know it's shit.

i know this is bait but ive legitimately never thought OoT was very good. and fwiw i got it in 98 or early 99, played ALttP and Links Awakening before that

>>5934759
I wish I wouldn’t have spent all that time writing this. I thought it might steer the thread towards some meaningful discussion, but instead the mods are probably going to delete this thread and all the other baits by OP.

>>5934776
gets better

>>5934809
Also the SF Alpha variant and the Aladdin thread that is obviously the same person switching up his tactics.

>>5934809
Mods pls help

All shitposting aside, OoT really isn't that good.