/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[10-2] Bobby Prince suing Randy Pitchford over unpaid royalties from DN3D World Tour
https://www.pcgamer.com/duke-nukem-3d-composer-sues-randy-pitchford-gearbox-and-valve/

[10-1] Some new Hexen maps
https://www.moddb.com/games/hexen/addons/lepistus
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=65993

[9-30] Kaiser developing a ROTT source port
https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1178453896123109376

[9-29] AMC TC v3.6 released, supports OpenGL
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/downloads/the-amc-tc-episodes-1-2-and-3

[9-29] DBP17 mapping to start next month, with an Aliens or horror theme
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1567/ti-community-dbp17

[9-29] Yet another beta release for Colorful Hell
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1119980#p1119980

[9-27] Night Time Terror, 6 map demo
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109137-night-time-terror-6-map-demo-final-update-hopefully/

[9-27] Doom Delta v2.2 preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNNo_bQfIV0

[9-26] Masters of Doom television series casts Carmack and Romero
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-masters-of-doom-television-series-casts-carmack-and-romero/

[9-26] Bloodicide, 8 levels for GZDoom has updated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107960-bloodicide-~-8-levels-for-gzdoom/

[9-23] Gameplay mod Supercharge released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109107-supercharge-gzdoom-resourcegameplay-mod/

[9-23] Sigil has been updated to version 1.21
https://www.romerogames.ie/si6il

[Last Call] H.U.H.'s current public release
https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

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>>5922345
That one I despise it the most. One thing is posting it on 4chan,one thing is posting on an article or in thumbnail/video without credit.
I'm pretty damn sure they put their signature on their work, what does it cost you to look it up and give the source?

>>5922375
IT'S FAIR USE gimme ad money

>>5922301
>few new entries on YT when it comes to Retro FPS who are actually good
Who are the other ones? And who are the old entries?
I must admit I wasn't even into whole "youtube" thing until couple of years ago. I watched videos, but didn't subscribe to asnyone or monitored who exactly I watch.
I'm also not present on any social media.

>R-right here? u-uh... are- are you sure, Mr. Guy? I don't know...

>>5922283
>>5922287
Both Civvie and LGR have acquired a taste for the patreonbucks.

>>5922454
So do l assume their content is bad now or something?

CANCER MOUSE

NO

>>5922474
Becoming more and more soulless

>>5922480
>>5922474
Those who take money from patreon, tend to cater to paying customers, i.e. patreons. So what youtuber does with their channel is often decided via patreon votes, and those who pay more matter more.
Most often this is detrimental to the quality of the videos in numerous ways.

>>5922360
Gzdoom newbie here. How do you run different wads/mods at once without using ZDL? Mine stopped working few days ago.

>>5922493
And frankly this is not Civvie11 case. He managed to maintain a great quality in most of his videos.
The fact they rely on Patreon is mainly because the YT system is broken.
He's doing well so far. Can't say the same for Gmanlives.
Now I like the guy but sometimes I really question why am I even follow him.

>>5922493
Civvie11's channel being solely focused on videogames and entirely driven by own persona I don't see changing too much. Which he hasn't. His style and humor has remained untouched as far as I can tell, he's just stopped talking like his parents on the next room were asleep.

>>5922503
Select multiple files in Windows Explorer and drag'n'drop them like usual. If load order matters, select the wads in order and drag the selection by the first item.

>>5922424
answer to this, anyone?
Who else beside Civvie, SSeth, Mandalor, Decino and Marphitimus are worth watching?

>>5922362
You misspelled Greasy Bastard

>Kaiser developing a ROTT source port
YEEEEEEAH! Time to Bag A Bazooka

>>5922474
Doesn't have to be.

>>5922493
Observable, but not axiomatic.
Civvie's content seems the same as always.

>>5922512
Gaming PastTime has a professional review style.
BigMacDavis does only gameplay videos but are really comfy.
So far these only ones I can think of

>>5922512
Those are the ones I can think of, at least for vidya content.

>>5922512
Accursed Farms does old games for Game Dungeon, but it varies a lot as he does 2000s or even fairly recent games sometimes.
NakeyJakey, maybe?

>>5922512
desinc, pagb666 for unaltered gameplay footage.

>>5922516
Speaking of ROTT.
Is it better than Wolfenstein 3D?I know it uses a slightly modified version of the engine I heard the soundtrack and I thought it was awesome(on the same level as Doom).

>>5922550
Demo is awesome, full game is more of the demo.

>>5922550
Just play it, my dude.

>Not my babes! Not in my town!
>Looks like you’re... fucked!

>>5922505
>>5922506
I feel like Civvie's problem is that there's a very finite amount of boomer shooters and eurojank. He can keep the style until he runs out of anything notable, but then it's trouble.

>>5922619
>boomer shooters
who the fuck coined this term?

>>5922635
the guys who play boom aka boomers

>Watching Civvie's video about DNF
>See how they managed to fuck up so many aspects that made Duke3D great
>"They can't possibly fuck up Duke's love for women,right?"
>The Hive comes in
>MFW

It takes effort to accomplish something that bad as that level,both on a design standpoint and completely devoided of humor the series is known for.
Doesn't help that it is gross for how greasy it looks Just like Randy

>>5922643
Looks like you’re... fucked

>>5922643
You honestly haven’t seen the hive before this?

>>5922661
I've completely removed that part from my mind for how crap it was.
I didn't play DNF in years.

>>5922550
>slightly
It's pretty far removed from Wolf3D, the only real giveaways are the static ceiling height and 90 degree walls. It's much closer to Doom in practice, or even Heretic since there's a lot of jumping and flying over enemies and barriers.

e2m2 is still the best stock map ever in Doom, prove me wrong.

>>5922643
>The Hive comes in
>MFW

Man alien Armageddon is really an eye opener.
THIS is bombshell, this is what its all about, fucking fun.
Its not perfect but man.


Ion Fury seems so hopeless compared to it, its like we have game development under hostage by some dickless fags.

>>5922643
Let me throw in a hypothetical. WHAT IF Opposing Force's leveldesign sensibilities were the major source of influence for all the iterations of DNF throughout its development (and especially notable due to the penultimate, "fit it into xbox360 whatever the cost" revision of the game making it way more apparently linear than it ever was) - and WHAT IF Randy, being the actual author of Opposing Force, managed to catch on that immediately, having actually played the build pitched to him? Wouldn't that at least partly explain some of the clearly troll decisions that went into finally released version of the game?

>>5922539
Ross some times just lies about the game he reviews for shits and giggles. And without actually playing the game you can't tell what's a lie and what's not.

>>5922673
Wrong

>>5922673
I like Tricks and Traps

>>5922676

>>5922676

>>5922512
I feel like the great curator of 90s weirdness is yet to come.

I think it requires a really weird fucking guy to make entertaining vids on all the forgotten fucking crazy fucking shit of the golden age.

FAKK2, Messiah, Slave Zero, Anachronox, Outwars, Urban Assault, Giants, Wheel of Time, I guess people already talked about mdk, and stuff lgr, Ross and Civvie touched.

>>5922505
>Can't say the same for Gmanlives.
>Now I like the guy but sometimes I really question why am I even follow him.
like icarus i mostly use him more as a spotlight on if a game/mod looks interesting enough to try out for myself.

i like civvie more as a critic or walkthrough guy because he articulates himself better than those other two chucklefucks and actually has enough skill to back up what he's saying most of the time.

>>5922681
It could be but also unlikely.
3D Realms were the ones in charge for DNF until Gearbox took the rights after over a decade of development.
After acquiring it they said "Hey Half-Life is popular right? And many consider Opposing Force almost as good,right? We made that shit so let's make it inspired by it"

Also accoring to certain rumors many devs were in a really bad mood(don't blame them) while making the game,hence why that part turned out like that.

Let's also add Halo and COD were dominating at the time and you get the crappy game mechanics.

>>5922619
As long as he doesn't go back to Fallout 4...
Feels like that happened just because he got a better computer.

>>5922698
>has enough skill to back up what he's saying most of the time
Blood is a prime example of that.
He said it several times he sucks at Blood but knows everything about the game.
Gmanlives "review" was clearly done in a hurry.

>>5922679
Sorry if this has been talked about to death and I missed it, but what's wrong with Ion Fury? I haven't played it yet.

>>5922737
It's a Build game without an inventory of fun gadgets or inspired weapons.

>>5922737
Not him, but it's nothing else but an unremarkable and often annoying, overdetailed Build porn. Like Transformer movies or Rihanna's singing. Technically advanced, but lacks memorable content.

>>5922737
Nothing really. Its just forgettable. Nice couple references and nice texture and comfy build levels. But its so meh.

People talk about the weapons but for me they are functional, its more about the nobody protag, nobody enemies, and nobody antagonist.

>>5922679
ion maiden needed more poorly made fleshlight sprites and walls with cum on them

>>5922737
It's an unenthusiastic Build wanking
There's a lot of details, and its good at first until you see same details in similar places in similar configurations
The enemies aren't very fun or interesting
The weapons aren't very fun or interesting.
The game on the whole is well done, but that's it. It's an okay game.
There's also an abundance of secrets, and the game reminds you of it at the end of each level, so there's that, I guess.

Oh and there's either a meme or reference in the style "remember that thing, we remember that thing too, are we cool now?" every 20 meters, as if this game was made by Gearbox or something.

>>5922748
is that a severed foot

>>5922748
nobody paid 25 bucks for that

>>5922753
I love the big pig cop in armor that rushes you once you get his shield off, this enemy alone is better than all in Ion Fury.

>>5922748
You are not wrong.

>>5922550
It's not a lot like Wolf3D, barring the 90 degree walls. While Wolf3D had some vestigial arcade elements, and Doom deciding to shed near all of them during the beta, RoTT (spearheaded by the same Tom Hall who worked on Wolf3D and partially Doom), went the opposite direction and leans VERY heavily on arcade gameplay, with various powerup items, and even weapons being treated as powerups. It's basically a mutant between the FPS and the 'shmup'.

You can carry only one rocketlauncher in your heavy weapon slot, and you can't renew its ammo, but there's usually a dozen of them per level, so when you've used one up, you just toss it and can pick up a fresh one. They come in many flavors too, vanilla, heatseaking, swarm rockets, etc, and you're somewhat insulated from splash damage, so the game encourages you to be pretty wild with its weapons. Your bullet weapons have infinite ammo.

The game is mildly formulaic at times, but makes up for it with its crazy charm, juxtaposing photorealistic digitized graphics with balls to the wall action and absurd cartoon violence (a little like Mortal Kombat). There's nothing like blowing up an enemy trooper and seeing his severed hand flipping you the bird in defiance, or incinerating him down to the bone, watching his skeleton collapse with a series of xylophone noises.
For its limited technology, it does the most with it.

>>5922751
It is,the gore in Alien Armageddon is great.

>>5922748
I like how they changed the expansions look as well.
Without damaging the gameplay or design.
The new maps honestly are much better even if the first one was incredibly huge.

>>5922750
I liked the game,not a masterpiece but really enjoyable. That being said I rather have people remembering it for what it actually had to offer over a fucking dumb "controversy" by Twitter.

>>5922759
Sounds great. I'll absolutely pick it up.
I'm recently getting into more obscure stuff like Marathon and Blake Stone.

I heard there was even a remake made by the same devs of Dusk,years ago but aside the OST it's not that good.

>>5922717
i kinda would like to see a look at the 3D fallouts but i know that it's going to be the tired "OBSIDIAN = GOOD! BETHESDA = BAD!" kind of video.

i think new vegas is a better game mechanically than 3 & 4 but the west coast post-FO2 is such a boring setting that even one of the writers considers the canon ending of NV being that the courier causes a second nuclear holocaust and takes over new vegas.

Was doomguy bunny a female?

>>5922550
>ROTT sourceport
I hope that because of this, ROTT will get a major modding community.

>>5922790
While it's true,Obsidian is not the one it used to be.
Making a video about the first two games would be nice,because of the amount of choices and the spectacular writing.
I don't think any other game after those managed to capture the isolated,mysterious and depressing atmosphere.

>>5922769
I'm kind of sad that they didn't keep the carribean themed enemies and water pistols from duke carribean.
Frankly the best thing about AA is the gore, although everything else is good too, bombshell kind of sucks shit though, i like that she has different weapons but all her quotes are just duke quotes read by some uninterested sounding woman.
Still I can't believe it's from the same people as that godawful HRP infested 3D model shit that was duke eternity, even though eternity also has some fun maps.

>>5922795
'daisy' sounds like a girl name to me

>>5922802
i know this isn't really the right place to ask but is there an alternate start mod/save editor for 2?

one of the things that prevented me from getting into 2 was the tribal stuff in the beginning.

>>5922810
All I know is the Restoration Project and Fallout 1.5.
Other than that nothing,sorry.

What if John Carmack was a girl ?

>>5922816
There would be no doom.

>>5922804
Caught me off guard as well. Talking about an upgrade.
That being said,I didn't like Bombshell weaponry either,while some of them were more powerful,they weren't as practical or as fun to use.

Some of the new enemies are hit and miss.
The armored pig is nice even if difficult but those railgun dudes,screw them.

>>5922823
Her desert eagle is really meaty.

>>5922828
Speaking of desert eagle, the AMC TC version of bombshell has an even stronger deagle for bombshell, even if it looks the same

it's great to pop alien heads with it.

>>5922816
Maybe he is. Like that one jazz pianist they discovered was female only when they did the autopsy on her.

How the hell do I get good at slaughter maps? I thought I was decent at Doom but I'm getting my shit kicked in trying to play No Chance

How come doom 1 and 2 have been alive for so long

Is it related with Romero hair height ?

>>5922839

Herd the monsters in a big clump, then run in circles around the clump while blasting it it with your SSG/RL/BFG

>>5922840
*length

>>5922839
Try moving less. If you flail around the battlefield, you will get hit by random shit all the time.
Take it slower. Don't rush in, try to keep the crowds reasonable. Try not to get surrounded.
Encourage infights. A few cyberdemons are a great help against a horde of pretty much anything.
In general, it might help to think of a slaughtermap not as a random festival of guts and BFGs, but as a puzzle where you need the correct approach for every encounter. Also, you can go play shit like Touhou - the slaugtermap gameplay loop itself is basically a shmup viewed from first person, so experience in dodging shmup patterns will reflect there.

>Low tier enemy
>Is one of the biggest threats
How a bald man can be so based?

>>5922862
Satan knows human potential hence why it wants us dead.

>>5922862
Same for the Chaingunner.
Both of them can turn you into swiss cheese thanks to their strength in numbers.

>>5922480
>more and more "soulless"
>all the dumb "plot" shit he put into the most recent video
if your critique for something is a single /v/ buzzword then i'm just going to assume you aren't posting in good faith.

>>5922884
But it is soulless. You just admitted it when you said he put worthless story shit.

>>5922862
>>5922871
Hitscan are scary.

>>5922898
*Hitscanners

Is that George Brussard?

>>5922884
what /v/ buzzword was it anyway?

>>5922941
Soulless

Now that we're talking about Duke.
Take a look to the end screen after you finish The Birth.
Not only Randy Pitchford and George Broussard are standing next to each other but also next to Duke himself.
The two bastards who will destroy his franchise.

>>5922360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9mHJJcyasU

>>5922360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSv8J6mpKLw

>>5922643
It could've worked if Duke actually cared about the people around him more and there was a sense of urgency in the game proper I stead of it being "Duek awesum"

>>5922893
since when does worthless = soulless
and by that metric, he did not become more and more "soulless", he has always been soulless, the "plot" has always been there, since day 1; which means your original comment no longer has any merit! congratulations, you beat yourself in an argument.

either learn how to articulate your thoughts better or shut the fuck up, if you don't like something fucking say why, if you're just going to vomit buzzwords, go back to /v/.

>>5922643
Wasn't it actually written by women too? Ironic.

>>5922801
First thing I'd do is make it so bullet weapons take ammo, and enemies drop it. I never liked the infinite ammo, it makes your shots feel meaningless.

>>5922956
randy looks different

>>5922964
The thing is,Duke isn't an asshole,far from it,his manners are not the best but he cares.
In Duke3D you couldn't save the babes(unless is Duke 64) but Duke simply said "Damn" and sounded like he felt bad about it.
Here it felt like he didn't give a damn despite the fact he went on a quest to save them all in previous games.

>>5922998
He looks better with the beard,maybe because he doesn't smile,which makes him extremely punchable.

>>5922974
I looked up and yes,3 writers and 2 of them are women.
Still if it was dudes in that scene,it would've still been fucked up.
I'm playing Duke Nukem not Alien vs Predator 2.

Some Textures packs are pretty nice.

>>5922974
Turns out women can be just as bad at shit as men. Who knew.
Really it seems like a too-many-chefs problem. The games writing is constantly pulling in multiple directions, from serious, to irreverent, to satire, to dick humor. Just no cohesive direction for the it to go. You COULD get many of those beats into a story if you paced it out properly, but it's like every level is a manic bipolar episode.

I don't even hate DNF, it has some fun stuff in it. It's bland as hell gameplay wise save for a few nice things. I played on PS3, so I won't be playing it again any time soon due to LOAD TIMES.
Maybe if it goes on sale for 3 bucks so I can play the DLC. Not until then.

A new Duke game, or the 2002(?) build being released would be fantastic. Get some modders from the Unreal community to patch it up and ship it. Erase this one from the canon.

>>5923026
Where the hell do you find them

>>5922934
What duke is that?

>>5923036
A new Duke game would be awesome.
It needs competent writers who don't follow whatever modern trend to make a joke,it will become awfully dated then.
Also when it comes to dark humor,politically incorrect,put the right dose of it,not too little or much.because it would feel obnoxious or out of place.

In the end in terms of gameplay,just go for something like Doom 4 did but high level of interactivity.
What DNF did was interactive world first,gameplay later.

If they want to make a Duke game,it needs to be for the fans first and not for a wider audience or else we get another mess.

And possibly less than 10 years to make,not even Star Citizen level of development hell,just don't skip an entire gen.

>>5923051
Moddb or Zdoom Forums
If you want it,here it is:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/dark-textures-pack-low-resolution

>>5923052
Duke Nukem:Alien Armageddon.

>>5923058
It should be called "Duke Nukem Forever: Good Edition"

Or just DNF again, devs keep naming reboots after the franchise's name anyway e.g. NuDoom

>>5922804
it's got nothing to do with Duke Eternity, the only person it has related is the coder and he didn't work on DN:E, just donated some code from his other mods

>>5922750
what the fuck is 'build wanking' man; it's fundamentally different from Doom, the big appeal of all the build shooters was the effects and dynamic levels, why even try playing them if you just want static levels like Doom has

>>5923062
It was so annoying that they named Doom 4/Doom 2016/D44M just DOOM.
Doom Eternal stands out more but the former is so confusing.

If they do,they would call it DUKE.

>>5923062
>Duke Nukem Forever
>Duke Nukem Ever
>Duke Nukem Forever After

>>5922862
That's a particular thing I really like about Doom.
Some of the most fragile enemies really are quite threatening, if you think and act quick, you can be good, but they can seriously mess you up if you slip.

The best part is that Baldy and Goatee are fairly prone to start infighting, *particularly* amongst themselves, which leads to hilarious clusterfucks.

>>5923080
The fragility is what makes hitscanners fun. If they were any more healthy, it would have turned the game into a slog.

>>5923090
>BattleLords from Duke Nukem 3D

>>5922520
love bigmac. hes very frustrating to watch play something his first time through though. certainly ocd or on the spectrum, hes super finicky about completionism to where it isnt always enjoyable as a viewer

>>5923090
>>5923094
spider
master
mind

just gonna link this to you guys but doomguy's in the finals of /v/'s king tournament
vote for him if you want to :)
>>>/v/480168891

>>5923067
"build wanking" in a sence: "is it technical achievment? Yes. Looks good or serves a purpose? Nah." There's a point where abundance of details becomes a clutter, especially when its repetitive.
They also rarely even used the Build's destructability all that much. Sure, blowing up extinguishers leaves a small dent in the wall, and containers count I guess but actual meaningful destructability is exceedingly rare.

>>5923107
He's a boss so that's hardly counts.
>>5923094
You can quickly dispose of those with a shrink ray.
I usually reserve shrink ammo for commanders and Battlelords. Maybe Enforcers too if I have a stockpile of ammo.

>>5922884
/v/ doesn't own words. Nor do you. It just happens to be where I see things going. Money tends to kill soul.

>>5922520
I tried watching a few of the GamingPastime videos, and he comes off as someone who just lists everything there is in a game, as if he's reading a game manual or a mini-faq, with very, very few remarks oif his own, and then calls it a review. Not very interesting to watch.

>>5922795
Transvestite bunnies now too, huh?

>>5922437
based I guess...

>>5923076
You forgot Never.

>>5923121
I love both of them.
But I go for Armstrong he doesn't deserve to be forgotten,he's too good.

>Those two drawings of Samus from that poser on Twitter
Yup,that thread is trash already,but is /v/ so...

>>5923076
>>5923148
Duke Nukem Indeterminate infinite time.
Duke Nukem Perhaps

>>5923142
*Female Bunnies

>>5923157
That's a dude now, bro. Dude. Man.

>>5923162
tomboys are great I agree

wonder what the artist is doing these days, last time I saw her posting she dropped the picture with Sorlag holding a ranger plushie

anyone got that one?

Armor display works fully now. The right edge of the screen will display keys and suit energy data. Top will hold level data like monsters remaining.

>>5923190
>number values
Good. Hate it when I don't have those.

>>5923190
too cool

>>5923107
>>5923094
The Battle Lord actually has pretty good aim and range though, so he's a pretty serious threat, Spider Mastermind not quite so much, he's only really deadly at closer ranges.

>>5923187
From I know,the artist,now is only on Newgrounds.
It's mainly furry porn and explicit as fuck.
Makes some cute stuff though.

She made like the only good version of anthro Daisy.

>>5922980
That's part of ROTT's style though, like how you have infinite ammo in games like Contra and what not.

>>5923220
The Mastermind isn't that much of threat because you don't encounter it that often.
The Battlelord even with the shrink ray can be an issue.
Sometimes you get 3 or 2 at the same time.

>>5923223

>>5922676
As a Sex Pervert, I'm pretty into the whole monster/tentacle rape thing, but The Hive really didn't do anything but make me uncomfortable, because they're pregnant as fuck and then die violently and grotesquely, what the fuck George, what the fuck Randy
Worse is how Duke seems so indifferent and uncaring about it, which is so jarring and out of character

>>5923234
That level reminded me of that horrible scene from AVP Requiem with the Predalien:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-X0HQs51TY

>>5923234
But Duke knows it's just a game. That much is obvious.

>>5923259
But it still feels shitty and wrong. Duke is supposed to care, one of his most famous quotes is "Nobody steals our chicks, and lives!"

>>5923274
Well he never saved any chicks in 3D. Self-destruct button. Everything and everyone gets blown up.

>>5923282
Tbf they were begging him to kill them and he did it. There was nothing he could do.
Then again he didn't mock them.

>>5923291
So mod in a "Damn it." Problem solved. DNF fixed, FOREVER.

>>5923223
Adorable

What's the best, most accurate to the original Quake 2 sourceport, that allows both software and 16:9 resolution?

>>5923282
He did in the N64 version, and the feature should really have been in the original, because it would feel more in character, and it would add another element to level completion.

>>5923312
But it wasn't.

Blow it out your ass!

>>5923347
Eat die and shit

>>5923312
>level completion
Gonna have to waste those babes if you want 100% kills.

>>5923298
If I really want to fix DNF is by throwing it in the trash where it belongs

I took way more time to make this than I should have.

>>5923367
Damn it.

its my saturday
I'm absurdly tired.

>>5923069
it sucks because the "same name" naming sounds like it's trying to replace the original media
the new call of duty is even weirded because it's specifically named after like a specific game but it's not like the original mw didn't have a 4 in its name
if id wants the 2016 doom to feel as timeless or not cause any more confusin, might as well retcon the name and refer to it something like "doom: the slaying" or whatever
>>5923152
i only ever check /v/ for drawthreads and occasional hornyness-disguised-as-on-topic threads because actual discussion barely exists

>>5923402
>it sucks because the "same name" naming sounds like it's trying to replace the original media
Agreed. I always thought it was a bad idea. Especially for something as still-popular as Doom.
I thought the new modern warfare was another redux of sorts. Not really following it.

>>5923412
at least the new doom is interesting enough to have stuff that is either accepted by fans or at least talked about
dmc at least inspired some things in dmc5 and that's a much worse game

>>5923058

Sometimes I think people in vr dont really assess the situation. Its almost 2020. People are playing wtv the fuck multiplayer bilge is famous now.

Gearbox have their plastic hearts on borderlands and its absolutely indescribable bad writing.

Duke had its time, fuck the fact we got stuff from fans is enough like Armageddon, from now on it will remain niche and a memory of other times. I would have rather it stay dead but no we got DNF for no fucking reason.

The worst for me was Nu Thief that thing broke me.

>>5923418
I'm just glad the fad of putting numbers as letters is out of style. THI4F really stomped that one out.
>D44M

>>5923309
Yamagi lets you do that, you can also set it up through an autoexec to play in opengl with unfiltered textures and square particles if you want it software-esque but with colored lighting.

>>5923425
You don't like STEALTH?
Most people just straight ignore that game. It's not a thief game, just pretend it's not there. No one will ever hear you say "Do you like Thief?" and think "that 2014 stealth game?".

>>5923402
>>5923412
It's either that or they're running out of ideas/suck at naming them.

Battlefield and COD are a prime example.
COD WW2 doesn't make sense because the franchise already visited that war in the past
Battlefield V is WW2 as well but the previous entry was named Battlefield 1 which takes place in WW1.
It's just so chronologically confusing as well.
In terms of movies,the less we talk about it,the better.Halloween is a nightmare in that department

>>5923418
DmC was a different can of worms because the creator was an arrogant prick who despised the source material.
Hugo Martin on the other hand highly respects the previous games and their games.

>>5923425
Unfortunately they're constantly in denial,me included.
Watching a franchise dead and kept in captivity by a greedy greasy bastard is not easy.
It's like Metroid fans after Other M.An insult to the franchise,kept alive only through crossovers and merch.
After 7 years they finally got a good game.

Unfortunately Duke will live with the embarassment of having a game that took way too long and hyped beyond our imaginations which ultimately didn't deliver.
The modding community will keep the memory of the franchise alive but for now is dead.

Hope Doom Eternal doesn't have the same fate.

>>5923402
>>5923412
It's either that or they're running out of ideas/suck at naming them.

Battlefield and COD are a prime example.
COD WW2 doesn't make sense because the franchise already visited that war in the past
Battlefield V is WW2 as well but the previous entry was named Battlefield 1 which takes place in WW1.
It's just so chronologically confusing as well.


>>5923418
DmC was a different can of worms because the creator was an arrogant prick who despised the source material.
Hugo Martin on the other hand highly respects the previous games and their games.

>>5923425
Unfortunately they're constantly in denial,me included.
Watching a franchise dead and kept in captivity by a greedy greasy bastard is not easy.
It's like Metroid fans after Other M.An insult to the franchise,kept alive only through crossovers and merch.
After 7 years they finally got a good game.

Unfortunately Duke will live with the embarassment of having a game that took way too long and hyped beyond our imaginations which ultimately didn't deliver.
The modding community will keep the memory of the franchise alive but for now is dead.

Hope Doom Eternal doesn't have the same fate.

>>5923448
>Halloween
Aren't there 3 just named "halloween"?

What might be an interesting idea for a franchise is to release "GAMENAME" and then release the sequel as "GAMENAME" but include the first release with it... and so on.

>>5923402
>>5923412
It's either that or they're running out of ideas/suck at naming them.

Battlefield and COD are a prime example.
COD WW2 doesn't make sense because the franchise already visited that war in the past
Battlefield V is WW2 as well but the previous entry was named Battlefield 1 which takes place in WW1.
It's just so chronologically confusing as well.


>>5923418
DmC was a different can of worms because the creator was an arrogant prick who despised the source material.
Hugo Martin on the other hand highly respects the previous games and their legacy.

>>5923425
Unfortunately they're constantly in denial,me included.
Watching a franchise dead and kept in captivity by a greedy greasy bastard is not easy.
It's like Metroid fans after Other M.An insult to the franchise,kept alive only through crossovers and merch.
After 7 years they finally got a good game.

Unfortunately Duke will live with the embarassment of having a game that took way too long and hyped beyond our imaginations which ultimately didn't deliver.
The modding community will keep the memory of the franchise alive but for now is dead.

Hope Doom Eternal doesn't have the same fate.

>>5923454
I take it back. Thinking about it further it's a horrible idea.

>>5923454
It's even worse.

>Original Halloween
>Reboot Halloween
>Halloween 1 sequel named the same

The last one ignores all the sequels and is named Halloween
But then we have Halloween H20 which takes place 20 years after the first one,which makes it Halloween 2
But now we have a new movie called Halloween 2 which is a sequel to the 2018 one.

Just uuuuugh

>>5923456

Doom has another name. And its being changed as well into another thing. Not saying worse just different. I think its turning into just generic 40k starcrafty like sci fi fantasy.
A safe edgy game for the halo generation.

We are not there for almost any type of game in the west game development, except maybe some stray indie that comes and still has the spark. Like kenshi or whatever.

>>5923468
It doesn't strike me as any safer than Doom 3 or any other id game post 2002.

>>5923060
Oh, thanks, still I'm surprised how few good texture mods seems to exist for doom

>>5923456
tomb raider probably had it worse because the reboot iteration got two sequels, meaning it was dragged for longer and forced as the "definitive" tomb raider
besides the character (both design and personality) of lara croft, the game deviates way too much from the real dna of the series to became a game so gerenic, its only legacy is shitty sfm porn and people realizing they were wrong about the series, that the original character was still more than just polygon tits fapbait
as far as i see it, the new lara croft has done more damage to the character than the zero suit as done to samus
to keep this on topic, pic related would make a good quake enemy
i wonder if doom eternal would have a centaur like enemy if they will take inspiration from heretic/hexen which are also dead franchises

>>5923474
It was polygon fap bait, but it was also more. Its was proto 3d prince of persia, the fun was thinking you could make that jump? Puzzles and ex exploration with very little bombastic shit and nice ambiance.

I think Haydee is more similar to fucking original tomb raider than nu bootleg uncharted tomb raider.

>>5923472
There are many. You just don't know how and where to find them. They barely get any attention.

>>5923464
absolute nightmare

>>5923468
Honestly it's an aesthetic I really appreciate,the issue is that it doesn't really have a middle ground.
Eternal has some classic inspired designs but also ones who feel like they belong from a different franchise.

>>5923474
Ooooh that one was awful.
The games themselves are alright but there's nothing from Tomb Raider.
Lara is whiny and scared all the time but goes through those dangerous situations like nothing.
It's just inconsistent and it has no supernatural elements and fantasy creatures.
Many theorize that the creators have a sick obsession of seeing her suffering and frankly I believe them.
This version of Lara is a travesty.

About that enemy,it's really cool. Tomb Raider has so many great designs.

>>5923480
Haydee is straight up fap bait and doesn't really hide it and is somewhat recognizable,even if her game is ass(both metaphorically and literally) Nu Tomb Raider is just pretentious all around and lacks an identity.

>>5922516
Gimme Crash please

>>5923498
>Many theorize that the creators have a sick obsession of seeing her suffering and frankly I believe them.

Its just a poor attempt at making your mary sue female character donut steal.

I think every current nu male faggot on the planet at some time in their life has this perfectly male but actually female snowflake of a protag, crafted for the current zeitgeist ready to leap from the recesses of his mind. Its usually sombre stoic, leather jacket fucking hero archetype with zero magnetism because its all inflated and fake.

In videogames it gets even worse because of "narrative dissonance" as the lingo goes. Its all so tiresome.

>>5923498
I mentioned haydee not only for the fap bait, but actually quite clever platforming where you can actually fuck your jumps.

And it has puzzles. It would be an amazing platform for a new tomb raider. With survival over the shoulder shooting.

>>5923464
don't forget that halloween 2 is a direct sequel to Halloween 1, so H20 is technically a sequel to all the other sequels, innit (beyond 3 that is).

At least they "claim" that the next halloween and then the one after that will be the last ones. 13 movies is a nice number to end on, huh?

>>5923518
>next halloween and then the one after that will be the last ones
They said the same with 6 and Resurrection.
I doubt it.
They might reset the timeline all over again 10 years later.

But yeah 13 years is quite ironic of a number,given the other slasher franchise.

>>5923514
Oh,well when you put it like that yeah,it works.

>>5923509
>"I can do this, I can do this, I can do this!"
>while slaughtering goons by the hundreds like any other action hero
The narrative dissonance in reboot Tombraider was something else. I don't think I can pull up a worse case of it in vidya actually.

>this thread

>>5923535
What, the Halloween and TR discussion? It's okay for people to veer off-topic for a bit, we don't have to be robots always fixated on Doom. Post something about Doom (or another retro FPS) if you want to more on-topic discussion.

I've played Half-Life a million times but have never played any mods for it. What are some recommended mods/level packs?

>>5923554
Echoes is amazing. Wish it was longer. To me its fucking canon.

>>5923554
They Hunger is kinda cool. I don't really know many more.
>>5923560
Oh yeah. Heard of that one. Haven't played it.

>>5923554
>>5923560

Forgot to say the secrets and attention to black mesa is astounding.

Also echoes is really captures the tone of HL. Its weird horror at times, and very sparse and foreboding atmosphere. The way it begins with that sound in the parking lot just tingles my brain.

>>5923560
>>5923563
>>5923565
>>5923562
I'll give them a try, thanks anons.

>>5923434
Did the original have colored lighting?

>>5923570
>uses the "updated" models and no option to switch them off
Well this is a bit disappointing. Hopefully the gameplay is good enough to offset this.

>>5923464
>>5923497
Keep in mind Rob Zombie made a Halloween film in 2007 called Halloween that went on to have a sequel titled Halloween 2.

>>5923393
looks awesome

I hate niggers

Give Jimmy money ya cunts!

>>5923707
Why?

>>5923707
Already have, not as a patreon but I've commissioned him.

>>5923707
fuck this fat faggot

>>5923574
Yeah, the original had an opengl renderer that had colored lights, which was the intended way to play for high end users, in fact quake 2 user levels became infamous for terrible use of colored lighting. Frankly I find that combining opengl with setting up your autoexec to have square particles and unfiltered textures is a kind of best of both worlds situation, although software does have a certain charm without the colored lights.

Anyone else try this masterful version of Doom on the Microsoft Store? Looks legit af too

>>5923707
I might commission some .midis of him when I look at making an episode of maps some day, but not for now, I'm busy with other projects.

>>5923756
>or 20

>>5923756
>>5923771
Consider this:
30

>>5922679
>>5922748
Honestly, all of these forced posts on /v/, spamming and bad jokes in the screenshots posted (plus other shit) is making me not wanting to play this mod. Even I'm starting to hate it

>>5923756
>maybe more

>>5923769
I was going to commission him but I guess that won't be happening now. Also his prices are pretty fucking steep.

>>5923805
There was literally one autist who was spamming the mod who wasn't even related to its development. And cmon, bad jokes are part & parcel of playing Duke Nukem.

>>5923826
I didn't find it too bad, seeing as it's Australian money, so the US dollar goes further, though I'm not sure where you're located

>>5923826
>transcription/remakes
What, so I can't get him to like, make a recut/ripoff of Head Like A Hole as a .midi, Bobby Prince style?

What's he charge anyway?

>>5923838
Ugh.
http://jamespaddockmusic.com/midi-commissions/

how many days away tranny defender Jimmy is from breaking out of the egg

>>5922695
>Messiah
Oh yeah, that would make for a good video, with all the history behind it. Its a mediocre game, but its a mediocre game with great atmosphere, something I would definitely love of a spiritual successor of.

>>5923840
Well, I definitely couldn't afford to have him score an episode. Maybe an intro jingle or something.

>>5923857
80 bucks for something like that is still way too much.

>>5922360
Let's say I wanna make my own total conversion for something and have absolutely no experience. Should I start with one of the doom source ports or build engine?

>>5922695
>Anachronox
Legit great game. Never got it's due.

>>5923714
Nah he aight.

>>5923896
Read, learn, do.

>>5923369
Nice work, anon. I made this a couple days ago, but forgot to post it here.

>>5923509
please be patient

>>5923805
I posted the screenshot of the cum room and it's a secret room, that's where most of the bad jokes and porn shit are, the guy who made it is obviously far too horny but the gameplay is solid, it has all the 'official' duke packs, the original episodes plus a new episode of some maps that kind of fail in the same way that ion fury's maps do by just being too big and clustered. As the other guy said there was some dickhead spamming about it in ion maiden threads which also made me not want to play it, but I was recently in the mood for some Duke so I gave it a go, turned out to be worth it.

>>5923369
>>5923926

>>5923953
Why contain it?

>>5923961

I'd like a mod for (Not Brutal) Doom that lets me summon Doom Marines or something similar that will follow me around in a level and help with enemies on slaughter maps. Brothers in Arms achieves the general idea but for some reason the author put all that work into it and balanced it like dogshit. The individual units in that one are really overpowered and can practically take on an entire level by themselves.

The closest I've found to a fully featured version of this are those Deltarune characters but Undertale is cringe so I'd like something that's more lore friendly to Doom.

Really surprised I haven't been able to find more companion mods like this. Any suggestions?

>>5923756
>imagine

>>5923953
the virgin concerned thot
the CHAD mad lad

>>5923924
yeah cool but read learn and do it in what engine

can i use GZ duym to- make own gam?

>>5923953
Maybe she should try being a chad talking to him about it. Or she could be a virgin and bitch on the internet, whatever.

>>5924026
closest thing I can name is BD

>>5924034
Yis

>>5924050
hw du?

>>5924034
no you can resprite doom and copypaste the same enemies from doom 2 re-skinned to look like OCs into it and achieve critical acclaim among the retards that use this general

>>5924031
build engine is and always will be superior to the other retro options

>>5924053
use SLADE n gzdoombuildr

>>5924026
MBF port, aka Marines Best Friend.
Gives you a dog.

>>5923714
He is neither fat nor a homosexual.

>>5923867
My guess is that the pricing is based on average wage in his region of living, and time spent on the track.

o baby

I always appreciate the news and links in the OP. Cool to see new maps and what's happening in the retro FPS communities.

Thanks for doing that OP

>>5924309
why does doom lack so many wild west maps

>>5923953
It is the least funny meme I can think of and oftentimes serves people to showcase their shit taste.

>>5924309
Get me a drink, BARtender.

>>5924396
Stereotypical wild west landscape is not very conductive to an oldschool shooter level design

>>5924309
Have fun in MOOn Texas, anon

This apparently hurt some peoples' feelings.

Is this offensive to you?

>>5923058
>Duke Nukem Jive
>And the Jackson Hive

>>5924479
It hurt the feelings of one strawman for sure

>>5923926
Neat.

>>5923926
Golem lads assemble.

>>5923220
>Spider Mastermind not quite so much, he's only really deadly at closer ranges.
Isn't Spider Mastermind also really prone to flinching?

He also does that thing where he stops for like a whole second between moving and shooting

>>5923298
He already says "Sorry babe, it's better this way."

>That's one doomed space marine

>>5923274
He also says in Forever, "Not my babes! Not in my town! You alien motherfuckers are gonna pay for this!"
Then he quips, "Looks like you’re... fucked!" Before they die violently.

for all my blood playing patricians, I don't know if to recommend the way of ira or not, now that I've finished it

for one it's blood made for casuls, as anyone who've played monolith maps will immediately notice (won't go into detail on all the MERCIFUL design choices in it)
if you're a lightly broiled guy, you should play well done AND picthfork start, enemy numbers don't change much based on difficulty I don't think

the takeaway at the end of all this is TWOIRA in my opinion has only 2 good maps, map 6 dark abbey and map 8 aka the boss arena, it was just a fun boss rush type deal

MAKE MORE BLOOD MAPS (highly recommend French Meat btw)

She did it. Here's Sarge.

*eats shit and dies*

>>5924537
Mastermind's prone to being fucking dead, YEAH!

>>5923826

lol you have no idea what creative professionals charge you child

>>5924667
He's no professional.

>>5924674
He's getting paid to do what he does, has been doing it for a long time, his work's been featured in a lot wads, and Romero came to him requesting his work for Sigil's midi track.
Professional enough for me

Why is there an option to turn off snarky commentary in Ion Fury? Whatever no-fun-allowed incel that uses it shouldn't be playing this kind of game in the first place. Completely misses the point of a Duke tribute like this.

>>5924683
You can turn off Duke Talk in eduke.

Time to Kill Duke lines.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pza0rmu61ndq3uh/Duke%20Nukem%20-%20Time%20to%20Kill%20Voicelines.zip?dl=0

>>5924683
The one-liners are weak, and one-liners in general can be grating after awhile unless there's a large variety of quality ones.
Besides there's a lot of things Ion Fury misses the mark on besides the one-liners and this option to disable it.

>>5922737
level design goes balls to the wall
the rest of the game es mediocre

>>5924479
Yeah, I'd draw better and would make her even more sexy

>>5924709
Do it

>>5923867
I'd be willing to pay that for a presentation thing, if I was really proud of the episode.

>>5924683
You could shut up Duke, Caleb, and Lo Wang, in their games, so that's just following tradition.

>>5924309
i'm gonna paint the town
no, that's it. that's the whole sentsnce

>>5924054
What examples are there even of this?

>>5924309

>>5924309
Come back, Shane!

>>5924309
MEANWHILE
B A C K I N T O O O O O W N

>>5924667
I mean yeah, he's actually pretty cheap for the work he does. I'd have to think really long and hard about what I'd want though, because to me, he's still expensive.

>>5924674
How is he not? He clearly has talent, and he's doing it for money now.

>>5923152
Is that an actual mod?

>>5924818
Unfortunately no. It's not.

>>5922737
The most generic Build game. Still worth a buy, though.

>>5922679
>its like we have game development under hostage by some dickless fags
well, yeah

>>5923756
Actually, who played THIS masterful version of Doom back in the day?

>>5924723
I was planning to draw retro shooters main characters when I got time so yeah I will, gonna be the doom slayer though, not the chaingunner.

i'm 29, never got into doom back in the day, I was too young. but holy shit, I just dl'd gzdoom and quake and shit, and I am having more fun than I have in a long, long time. I swore off FPS because I hated shit like call of duty but these games are fucking awesome.

>>5924309
Looks nice.

>>5922737
I liked it. Shelly was an underdeveloped character, but has some moments. The antagonist is better. The world has a lot of character though. It's not overdetailed in it's level design, but it does have an issue with the visual details being spread evenly out. Like there isn't a single stretch that lacks some doohicky or gizmo or dirt or litter. Which makes it sorta blend a tad. It's not a big deal.
It's still quite satisfying to play.

>>5924893
enjoy
then download some maps
actually, download a lot maps
download any and every map set you can find (just delete them if they suck shit big time)

portals > bsp

>>5924974
what's the difference?

>>5924991
Main reason I switched is because portal maps are feasible to write by hand, and BSP trees are not.
Or do you want a technical explanation of the difference?

>>5924998
technical explanation if you don't mind please

>>5924991
It's kind of like the difference between your ass and your face.

>>5924974
reminds me of antichamber

>>5924998
Aren't BSP trees supposed to be generated by an algorithm anyway?

>>5925009
Yeah and I didn't feel like writing a bsp compiler

>>5925002
Sure, but it's complicated, so give me some time

>>5925040
Thanks in advance, I love reading about technical stuff like this.

>>5925002
The coder anon's gonna have to take a maddening amount of time to write that, especially that BSP is a very technical and not at all intuitive topic. IIRC The Doom Wiki has a really neat article on it that reads a bit like a technical paper.
>>5924974
Are you going to include overlapping level geometry? I reckon using portals allows for non-euclidean designs.

>>5925058
It should support overlapping geometry (including room over room) automatically

>>5924893
Enjoy them. Make sure you try out the expansions to them, also consider trying some of the more famed map packs.
Check some of the Build games as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDceR_fz64

>>5925040
What about just reusing an existing BSP compiler? Or would that not be efficient?

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-minecraft

>>5924893
Same boat, I'm 30 and only enjoying that shit now and having a blast. I was too sick to play retro shooters in my 20s without horrible headaches anyway.

>>5925242

>>5925242

>>5922673
God i hated that map
god

>>5922673
Like half of this map is areas you literally don't even need to step foot inside.

>>5925172
I didn't feel like parsing doom wads either.
Just wanted to be able to throw together decent maps in a text editor, or maybe make my own simple map editor. I won't need most of the things in a doom wad.

>>5925313
Thats good though. It adds to the sense of exploration.

>>5925319
have you abandoned textured surfaces, or just backburnered it?

i remember seeing this image as doom phobos related but what's its true source?

>>5925376
Textured walls may be possible, I'm currently losing a lot of performance from a suboptimal framebuffer layout

>>5923856
I mean yeah what other video game lets you possess a hooker and kamikaze yourself against mutants and cops.

Shiny were too good for this world.

The corruption was already there in the press actually. A typical review went "declared the title "truly repellent - I don't even like to think of the sort of sadist who would enjoy it." The review detailed that beside "a level of sexism that goes beyond the usual demeaning stereotypes" and "adolescent edginess" that "there's a general atmosphere of cruelty, of enjoying violence not for the adrenaline rush of the action or even for the fun of cartoonish bloodshed - but for the realistic pain it causes."

OOOOOOOOOHHH

>>5922862
If only you knew how bad things really are

So I was taking another look at some of the more or less horshit variety of Powerslave levels, and so far I can say this:

Levels 00+09+15: (use Marathon 1, Jason Jones' levels primarily, as an apparent point of reference, add a '"unique twist'" to it, consisting of mixture of) Legend of Kyrandia 3: Malcolm's Revenge + probably, one of the Ishar games (by the way, contrary to mobygames, they HAVE been officially ported to and published for Macs, see the "garden").

Levels 01+04+11: (McGee's levels primarily for Doom 2 and possibly Ultimate Doom +) Michael Raymond-Judy's levels for OG Heretic (he was the main mapper on the game and did like 2/3 to 3/4 of the levels there) + probably, Waxworks.

Levels 02+10+14, 03+08+13 and 05+17+19 pending, levels 06, 07, 12, 16, 18 and 20 in both versions I will eventually review separately as I don't consider them being horseshit.

>>5924479
femgunner should be thiccer

>>5924479
Pathetic

>>5924479
yes, I find chaingunners extremely offensive be they male or female

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y22JQLlZlok

>>5925442
I'd say they're more defensive really, given that they can't move while firing.

Part 1 -

Basically, a BSP tree splits up space into halves.
If you look at the attached image, you’ll see an example of how a bsp tree could split up the space in a world. Imagine the three colored shapes are sectors that are connected to each other by the arrows.

If you are inside sector 0, left of split plane 0, you know that bsp node 1 is in front of bsp node 2, which also means that you know that sector 0 is in front of sector 1 and sector 2.

Traversing the bsp tree according to which half is in front of the other half according to your POV gives you a perfect front-to-back sort order of the sectors in the game world.

In a doom engine, sectors are convex, so we know that no wall in one sector will obscure another in that same sector. So as long as we draw sectors in a front-to-back order, and never redraw to the screen, we will have a correct output image.
Basically the only clipping you have to do is between sectors.

Say we’re in sector 0 and ignore the details of bsp traversal, we’ll be drawing sector 0, then 1, then 2.
We draw all the walls in sector 0, adding to a clipping buffer for each solid wall, so we know now to draw there again. Since doom doesn’t have arbitrary 3d geometry, this type of clipping is a 1D problem and very efficient.
Then we draw sector 1's walls, clipped by the walls already draw in sector 0, then we do sector 2's walls, clipped by sector 0 and sector 1.

>>5925463
Part 2 -

For invisible walls, and walls with holes in them (basically portals) there is a complication, we need to draw the top portion of wall down from the ceiling and the bottom portion of wall up from the floor, which means we need multiple sectors being drawn to the same columns, so clipping portals is now a 2D problem. Any further walls drawn will need to be clipped by these drawn portions, which is one of the reasons why drawing isn’t as efficient as in wolf3d (for every wall we draw, we need to check vertical clipping on a per-pixel column basis. wolf3d just draws full walls from ceiling to floor every time).

A portal engine can use almost the same exact drawing algorithm, except it needs to discover the drawing order of sectors at runtime based on the player’s current sector, and any portals within that sector.
Draw all the walls in the current sector, then handle all the portals in a sector, and if they’re visible, add the sectors attached to them to a queue, and repeatedly process the sectors in the queue and so on until there are no more.

Other advantages the BSP has comes from the fact that it splits the world in half at each branch, which allows you to do efficient collision detection, and efficiently determine what sector a point is in. A portal engine needs to search all sectors to find the sector an arbitrary point is in, which is pretty bad. Collision detection is usually better since you know what sector an entity is in to start with, so you have a good starting point, and can check neighboring sectors first.

Some advantages portals have is that you can point a portal to an arbitrary sector, for various effects. You can point a portal back at the same sector it’s in for a mirror effect, have geometry that loops in on itself, etc
You can also modify a portal graph at runtime much easier than a bsp tree. In some cases culling can be more efficient at runtime, but in some cases it can be worse than a bsp tree.

Looking at this image,I was thinking if it would be possible to make a Doom wad where Doomguy and the enemies are all action figure sized in a house.
A map which is basically a bedroom but is designed to work in a FPS.

I remember some Quake 3 maps where it was basically that but as we know they work differently.

So what do you think?

>>5925481
>A map which is basically a bedroom but is designed to work in a FPS.

>>5925481

Nothing new about the concept but it would be a first in Doom as i don't recall seeing maps like that before

>>5923946
Good on ya,mate.
I feel this mod deserves more love given the amount of work put into it.
The jokes like the one game shop are funny but the raunchy stuff sometimes is just too much.
That being said I love some of the new enemies in particular that big pig cop who goes berserk after you destroy his shield.

>>5925481
It's been done, but very hard to do convincingly in Doom.

>>5925456

>>5925481
There's 'Little Big World', from Thief Gold, but that isn't exactly a FPS.
But there's this DM map from SiN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WqD7HJS27U

>>5925463
>>5925465
interesting
what about combining both portal and bsp? does it give some advantage or not?

>>5925594
Also, Airfix Dogfighter is a thing.
-another-anon

>>5925481
You're basically asking for de_rats.

>>5925594
Loved that fucking map. Even playing alone with no fucking net.

I love you Elexis.

>>5925605
You could use an auxiliary bsp to speed up some operations, but then you lose non-physical geometry and being able to modify portal geometry at runtime.

>>5922512
any doom moder/mapper that has a youtube channel?

>>5924879
Aww

>>5925170
Best soup I've ever had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZih0TnGbU0

>>5925623
Yeah but they're all shit.

>>5925623
Most of them do

>>5925406
Levels 02+10+14: (probably, OG/Turbo Journeyman Project +) System Shock 1 + LOOM.

Did you enjoy NEIS.wad?

>>5925697
It's convoluted in an uninteresting way. I mean yeah, I didn't find 2/3s of the secrets. Why exactly is it assumed I would care, again?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109042-huge-new-doom-1-map-5spiderswad-looking-for-playtesters/
Spicy

Sometimes I forget that there are actually autistic people posting here. Like, not "you're an autistic faggot", but actually barely functioning, mentaly unwell autistic. How else could you find fun in having the exact same arguments day after day, and wasting time trying to upset people instead of actually discussing things you're interested in?

>>5925705
>>5925697
Could do with way trickier enemy placement to justify the exploration, yeah. An abundance of just about everything most of the time. Still, pretty nice with pistol starts. Easy but fun.

>>5925721
Beats having them go out on shooting sprees.

are there any sprites for the doom 3 bruiser?

>Watches Civvie's video about DNF
>Notice that Duke in the campaign and DLC are different in terms of personality
>Main game Duke:sociopath,annoying,terrible one liners and references
>DLC Duke:Actually much closer to the classic Duke
>Remember that the DLC is about cloning in the first half
>Main game Duke might be a Dukebot
>MFW

That would actually explain why they're so different.
DLC is basically a part scrapped from the main game,maybe at the time 3D Realms still owned it. That Duke was the real one.

Again in the infamous Hive scene he didn't give a damn about the twins dying in front of him,same for Dillon who was bleeding to death.

In the DLC he actually seemed to care about everyone around him and he even punched a guy who was sexually harassing a woman.
Something that the actual Duke would do.

>>5922360
mancubus,net dead?

>>5926010
Every once in a while

>>5925985
>Main Duke is a clone
>DLC Duke is a clone all along
>Dr. Proton was able to get Duke clones to the moon, making it totally feasible that he got to Duke before the events of the main game, knocked him unconscious and replace him with the clone Duke
>Nobody figured this until 8 years after

Guys....


Is DNF secretly genius?

>>5925985
>Main Duke is a clone
>DLC Duke the real Duke all along
>Dr. Proton was able to get Duke clones to the moon, making it totally feasible that he got to Duke before the events of the main game, knocked him unconscious and replace him with the clone Duke
>Nobody figured this until 8 years after

Guys....


Is DNF secretly genius?

>>5926048
More of an headcanon created by a stream of mistakes in the game.But a really plausible one.

It actually makes it far more tolerable.

Hell,why is Duke so stiff when he jumps? Because he's a robot.I don't recall any part in the DLC where it has a mirror.
They even mention the twins death in there but he problably knew them before the events of DNF.

So yeah, Main Duke is arguably Dr Proton best Dukebot who problably escaped from the Area.
Hell the first part of the game is nothing but interaction.Analyzing the enviroment like....a Terminator would do.

>>5926048
But DLC Dukey knows that Dylan died... and came back. Has to be the same guy.
BYTH MUSTED

While speaking of Terminator, imagine if the plasma gun from Doom Eternal sounded more like this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQrmMSJms4

>>5926137
It would still be more fun like that though.

chompers

Speaking of Terminator before. IIRC the plasma rifle from Doom PSX uses the same sound of the Plasma Rifle from Terminator 2.
Kinda wish Eternal used that sound, because it feels kinda weak.

>>5926148
That looks like ????????????

>>5926151
Never trust pre-release footage. They'll change it.

>>5926151
That would be too good

>>5926156
They better change the regular shotgun sound while they're at it, because right now you can barely hear it

>>5925919
pretty sure doomero's ultimate super doom3 mod has bruiser sprites (or maybe it was someone else's d3 mod)

guys im famous

>>5926185
Damn, I'm famous too. Nice.

Seriously though, this theory is just too good.

>>5925384
SNES Doom Manual

>>5925481
I already asked for this and looked all over the internet, at least for doom it doesn't exist
I don't see why not when we have udmf now...

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Gavin Clayton, the DaggerfallUnity source port Dev is working with some 3dto2d Neat stuff and even posting some tutorials on his twitter page
https://twitter.com/gav_clayton/status/1179932757121626112


>>5926185
BY THE NINE...

>>5926185
You know Civvie's just some guy, right? He talks to people just like every other guy does.

>>5926224
IMPOSSIBLE

Which MIDI settings produce the best music? Which settings are more faithful to the original release of the game?

>>5926293
Roland SC-55

>>5926224
I prefer to think of him more as subhuman because of the subpar content he creates

>>5926415
Yet you still watch it. What does that make you?

Considering Kaiser is Night Dive's bitch, I'm surprised he hasn't made Eradicator EX yet.

>>5926185
Ask him if he likes /vr/ and what his favorite part of us is.
is it our hair

>>5924974
Can it generate portals dynamically?
I imagine many people would be blown away if you manage to make 3D portal-like game on Genesis of all things.

>>5926215
>>5925481
There's a wad called "Mandrill's Ass Project" (silly name I know, but it's good), and there's a segment where you are "shrunk down" and fight on top of a giant dinner table.

Best Duke Nukem 3D/Blood community maps?
I'm on a Build bender, and am thoroughly enjoying myself.

>>5926578
>Blood
Death Wish, Bloody Pulp Fiction, French Meat, and The Cult are all very nice episodes. There was a great single map released this year called "A Bloody Mess".
>Duke
Alien Armageddon has an original episode with some excellent maps. WGCity and Shaky Grounds are great. There's a mappack called "Metropolitan Mayhem", its pretty good albeit unoriginal.

>>5926596
Thanks!

>>5924552
I must be a true scrub because I enjoyed it fine on lightly broiled.
Pretty cool episode, especially for a beginner mapper. I like the moments when you get to let off steam and annihilate an entire room of cultists.
Hated the required secret switch in map02, hated fighting the stupid fucking werewolf boss for the finale.

https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1179840014705930246?s=20

https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1179901146380603393?s=20

>>5926556
it could, and it wouldn't even be hard, but I haven't added a feature to do that

>>5926610
This is as far as I go.

Was the D3 pinky inspired by the Q2 parasite?

>>5926512
during his Pro Shadow Warrior series he had blasted /vr/ for shitting on those games but I think it's because he made the fatal mistake of thinking all /vr/ posters are the same.
That being said, I think Civvie's a pretty entertaining fellow, and I give him props for staying true to his word and playing through DNF.
Now play some doom mods you goober and put them on the spotlight.

>>5924709
See: >>5924723

ahem
fuck demons

>>5926813
Why would you do that?

>>5926813

>>5926741

Don't see the similarity as while the D3 pinky is only missing its legs the parasite is only a head with the rest being cybernetics

Has there ever been a YT video about Doom 64 cut content?
Like the original cover art, development, story, themes, levels, that weapon, enemies, cancelled sequel and more.

>>5926569
in which settings a doom or quake map has not yet been made?

>>5926925

Ancient Mesopotamia

>>5926925
Russia? Ancient Rome?