/vr/ - Retro Games

>accurate
>emulation
>crt filter
Disgusting faggot.

>>5914446
>I just want most accurate experience to the original
Then get the real thing? It's one of the cheapest retro console out there.


>should I use CRT filter or not?
Hook it up to whatever display you have and see if you're satisfied with the result otherwise get your hands on a free/cheap CRT. These consoles were literally made for CRTs.

>mednafen vs retroarch
At least learn what the words mean before you use them. You can use Mednafen in Retroarch or as a standalone emulator.

If you're a brainlet I highly recommend you just go for the standalone drag and drop option, rather than setting up RA. Though with RA you have more control over tiny settings like latency.

>>5914449
dont have money to be a collectorfag and wait months for shitty cd's to arrive to my house

just tell me how to emulate it accurately you braindead consumerist collectorfaggot

>>5914453
should i use a crt filter or nah? which one?

This is really weird...just got a call from OPs mom just to tell me she sucks nigger cocks??? Wtf

>>5914454
>buy modded PS1
>buy pack of cdrs for pennies

Or even better, get a PS2 fat and run PS1 games from hard drive with the added bonus of perfect PS2 emulation.

>should i use a crt filter or nah? which one?
grab a consumer crt for free on craiglist

>>5914446
>I use anything but original hardware

>>5914463
just because you waste your wagecuck paycheques on childrens toys doesnt mean everyone else wants to

eat shit

>>5914461
or ever better not do any of that gay shit and sit here on my computer and download a few files and play the game?

why are you people so clueless i thought you'd know the best way to emulate ps1 by now.

>just because you waste your wagecuck paycheques on childrens toys doesnt mean everyone else wants to

>eat shit

>>5914476
cool memes man can you dump some more Epic memes from your 60gb Internet Culture meme Folder XD Im so Internet Cultured LOL
faggot

>cool memes man can you dump some more Epic memes from your 60gb Internet Culture meme Folder XD Im so Internet Cultured LOL
>faggot

>>5914471
There are ways to play games on the original hardware for cheap using flashcarts, burned cds, external hard drives. I'm willing to bet you spent more on shitty steam games you'll never play this week alone that it would cost you get a PS1 setup.

You said you wanted the most accurate experience, that's playing on the real hardware. If you don't like what you are told install the first istore psx emulator and fuck off.

>>5914482
thought so

>thought so

I just want to personally apologize to frogposters, you guys really aren't so bad.

>>5914483
ok retard

emulator vs CRT

looks the same to me. id rather just do this.

btw i actualy have a PS1, ps2, and ps3

but using my pc is just more efficient and i dont really care that much i just wanna play some ps1 games real quick

so anyone tell me most accurate emulation and crt filter or what?

>>5914487

If you truly believe LCD technology on your epic gamer monitor can replicate the visuals and response times of an electron gun shooting at phosphorus dots in a vaccum tube then do use your filters and fuck off nigger.

>>5914496
i really care enough to spend a month going around town looking for a crt and ordering tons of shit online and waiting weeks for it to show up and spending hundreds of dollars

yeah man i really care that much
ok cuck

>>5914459
>>5914463
>>5914476
>>5914482
>>5914485
wow this board is just /V/ now

I hacked my psx classic that i got for like 15 dollars and it runs games perfectly aside from a sound issue in diablo 1

>>5914514
>now

I use a modded PS3 for the sake of convenience.
>reads 1.5 TB HDDs
>almost the exact same controller but wireless
It isn't 100% perfect. There's better ways for sure, but it does the job pretty damn well

>>5914514
>wow this board is just /V/ now
>now

>>5914446
PS1 games were designed for CRTs with zero lag. If your screen has input lag the games will be unplayable.

Using Retroarch with some super anal CRT filter is ideal. I dunno what the best one is. The most noticeable things on LCD screens are the videos and static 2D backgrounds. The videos are supposed to look like a TV show, not youtube in potato quality. The backgrounds look good, not like low-res ass. If your filter makes the game look dark because of all the solid black scanlines that's WRONG because CRTs are bright.

>>5914559
>If your screen has input lag the games will be unplayable.
LMAO this has to be the all-time greatest CRT cope this board has ever seen. Thanks for the laugh.

>>5914559
>CRTs with zero lag.
why are you so dumb holy shit

>>5914514
In this case, oddly enough, the faggot posting the gay little pictures is actually 100 percent in the right, and the OP is a piece of shit making an /r/ thread while simultaneously insulting everyone and just asking to be spoonfed obvious information while refusing to acknowledge that CRT and original hardware is what he technically should be doing for 'accuracy'.

>>5914585
"its either completely 1% accuracy or the real thing! just spend hundreds of dollars like the rest of us! dont even bother"

>>5914446
The not retro next ps?

>>5914454
Holy shit this loser. You don't have months? PS1 has been out for 24 fucking YEARS but you need to get it and play it RIGHT NOW, CAN'T WAIT? Fuck off and play your third world emulators with 'shaders'. Also lol at people who actually buy things automatically being 'braindead consumerists' you wouldn't have your comfy little existence that allows you to be a weak loser faggot without people making and buying things you ungrateful piece of shit.
>>5914459
I wouldn't be surprised.
>>5914461
Imagine burning cd's in 2019... do you hear gunshots outside of your subsidized apartment often?
>>5914471
Here OP confirms he doesn't work and lives off of others, just like he is trying to get us to setup his gay little emulator for him. Fucking get a job.
>>5914559
>Using Retroarch
>Ideal
Lmao.

>>5914592
You can't even put together coherent sentences. Emulate a fucking book and read it, cocksucker.

>>5914446
epsxe is what I use with the best results.
Retroarch is ok but not as good.
>>5914598
>Also lol at people who actually buy things automatically being 'braindead consumerists' you wouldn't have your comfy little existence that allows you to be a weak loser faggot without people making and buying things you ungrateful piece of shit.
Imagine seething this hard cause someone doesn't want to have plastic boxes and cds littering their house.

>>5914598
$20 says this guy's living room is adorned with thousands of dollars in anime figurines.

>>5914606
some anime figures are cool

>>5914605
Imagine implying people are 'braindead consumers' is the same as simply not wanting plastic cases, rather than a kid with no money (proven by the wagecuck comment) lashing out at those that do.
>>5914606
That would be based, but no, living room is just ordinary shit and games, books, magazines etc in another.

>>5914616
Another (room).

Jesus fucking Christ

>>5914598
>>5914559
>>5914496
https://youtu.be/_qys9sdzJKI

kys

>>5914630
Notice that Retroarch is still running on a CRT. Emulation is eh pretty cool guy tbhfam but LCD is truly the worst display technology to ever be widely used.

>Someone asks a fairly straightforward question about emulating a console.
>Endless, meaningless, memeshitter screeching
Jesus fuck, what happened to /vr/?

>>5914638
>LCD is truly the worst display technology to ever be widely used
Perhaps. But scouring ebay for $1,000 PVMemes that are being price gouged to hell and back because CRT cultists are the most gullible people on Earth next to audiophiles isn't any better. Even if decent CRTs weren't the new Bitcoin, I don't feel like lugging a 150 lb. meme up a flight of stairs.

>>5914646
I mean, I don't even feel like busting your chops. You're obviously beaten already. It's sad.

>>5914645
>what's more accurate: emulator or the same emulator?
>since I care about accuracy, what's the best way to turn my LCD into a fake CRT with the magic of filterz?

>>5914652
>everyone on 4chan is the same person

>>5914645
The question was answered, and it was already explained thoroughly why OP is a shitter. Move along.
>>5914646
All well and good but the argument still remains that everybody had decades to get a decent setup to play retro games. It's like asking what the best guitar is and people saying a vintage Telecaster, and then people crying that vintage guitars are now overpriced. Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that a new Squier still sounds like shit in comparison. If you want the good shit, you have to pay to play. Otherwise, don't ask what the 'best' thing is and just settle for your third world setup because you are just now trying to get into something, and good things require an investment of time and money.

>Hey guys what's the closest accuracy to ps1 emulation besides actually getting a ps1 and heavy CRT?

>complete autistic shitfit by consumerist collectorfags ensues because they cant imagine someone enjoying what they spent hundreds of hours and dollars into for free

>>5914667
>what's more accurate: emulator or the same emulator?
That's a reasonable question if you don't know that.

>since I care about accuracy, what's the best way to turn my LCD into a fake CRT with the magic of filterz?
Also a reasonable question.

>>5914670
>The question was answered
If someone's asking about emulation, telling them to buy a bunch of hardware isn't answering the question - It's just jerking yourself off.

Download retroarch stable
Select the Beetle HW ps1 core
Leave settings at default play nativeres with black bars
Use playstation controller

Optional: Download CRT Royale and configure it

This is how to play most accurate emulated PS1


Was that so hard? You guys are total fags. Go buy some more overpriced shit on Ebay you absolute morons. Have to justify your materialistic fetish somehow eh?

Have fun OP

>>5914678
>>5914690
If you have so much contempt for the actual hardware then by extension you shouldn't care if your emulation is accurate either, you should just go for what looks best to you which will probably be Beetle with PGXP. It's great.

>>5914463
>desperately misuses a meme to self-affirm that it is in fact them, and not himself, who is a glasses-wearing hipster neckbeard basedjack
you don't do your case any favours

>>5914691
Retroarch is trash. Wouldn't expect more out of someone that cries about others having money though.
>>5914690
Is there some reason he couldn't figure this out without Google? Also did you conveniently miss the part where he started just insulting everybody while asking for info?
>>5914678
We can all clearly see that's not what OP wrote, and he wasn't 'a polite, innocent good little boy', so fuck off and go play pretend elsewhere.

>>5914714
ok idiot

>>5914446
Hey nigger the most accurate is Mednafen because it's always going to be more updated than the faggy retroarch kkkore

I'm about to put a collection together, but recently realized emulation is better than I've been led to believe for all retro consoles. Does anyone know of any masterpieces that can't be emulated at all, so I need to buy the real thing? Or is buying just for the absolute dumbest people at this point?

>>5914725
I'm about to LARP, but I recently realized holding a grudge against people online who buy things online is a bigger waste lf time anf embarrassment to myself than I have been led to believe. Does anyone have even the most basic level of knowledge to tell me the answer to fucking stupid made up questions about emulation? Or is playing pretend on the internet just for the fucking dumbest of people?

>>5914721
First of all the notion that Mednafen is "more updated" than the Beetle PSX libretro core is laughable.
Secondly the notion that "more updated" means more accurate or stable is also laughable.

So if anything, Mednafen functions without issue because it's less updated. Though the actual reality is the RA core has a software renderer option which is the the same as standalone Mednafen. The RA hardware renderer being a WIP has is a completely separate issue and a project with different aims.

the default retroarch gl video driver crashes. is there any negatives of using the d3d one?

>>5914446
Why be accurate when you can do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvr4lQtx1pM&t=0m14s

>>5914691
>Optional: Download CRT Royale and configure it
crt royale looks like shit on a 1080p monitor regardless of how you tweak it

>>5914725
There is no Laseractive emulator. Vector games look pretty dramatically different on real hardware than through emulation. Light gun games do not emulate accurately without significant effort. Second Gen consoles in general feel pretty different on real hardware because of its largely analog nature. Handheld consoles like Game Boy have distinct screen hardware.

Emulation is a great way to sample games and if you're a poorfag its fine, I even emulate more often than not just for convenience BUT if you've never played retro games on real hardware you should eventually get at least an example of your favorite platform and a consumer CRT just to experience it with 100% accuracy so you see it for yourself with your own eyes and know exactly how it's supposed to look and feel.

>>5914739
Beetle PSX HW will only function properly with the GL, GLcore or Vulkan backend renderers. Using D3D will cause it to fall back to software mode.

>the default retroarch gl video driver crashes
The GL driver that RetroArch defaults to does not cause crashing. There is something wrong with your GPU driver, OS, hardware, or configuration. But you shouldn't even be using the default GL driver. What device are you running this on anyway? Windows PC? What GPU are you using?
RA defaults to the old GL driver out-of-the-box to ensure compatibility with the ancient PCs that Brazilians use that are only capable of rendering with OpenGL 2. Use either the OGL Core driver, which is compatible with OpenGL ES 3.x and up, or Vulkan.

>>5914748
>crt royale looks like shit on a 1080p monitor regardless of how you tweak it
Yes. It's supposedly intended for 4K, or so I've read. The CRT royale xm29 preset is better suited for 1080p LCD TVs in my opinion.

>>5914760
windows 7 and 6950 graphics card which video driver should i use on retroarch? ogl core ok

>>5914750
Reasons to not emulate according to you:
>No Laseractive games
I'm sure the five or six collectorfags that paid $3K for their meme laserdisc system so they can enjoy the wonder that is on-rails FMV "games" where you move a target cursor around are very happy with their setup. No one gives a fuck about emulating that awful system.
>Vector games don't look the same
No one cares about the two vector games that are even remotely worth playing.
> Light gun games do not emulate accurately
Light gun games are immensely more accessible and fun when played with a mouse rather than squinting down some plastic sights.
>Second Gen consoles in general feel pretty different on real hardware because of its largely analog nature.
Again, no one cares about these 1970's games, grandpa. You're really stretching it here with these supposed "drawbacks" lol
>Handheld consoles like Game Boy have distinct screen hardware
webm related

>>5914813
He is answering a question as to what might not be emulatable, calm the fuck down and shut up, we get it, you're a broke loser who pirates things. You don't need to constantly screech about it.

>>5914750
>There is no Laseractive emulator. Vector games look pretty dramatically different on real hardware than through emulation
I don't play many of those games.
>Second Gen consoles in general feel pretty different on real hardware because of its largely analog nature
I'm fine with using shaders, they look almost identical now and have even better black levels.
>if you're a poorfag
No I could put 10 grand into a retro gaming setup but now I'm thinking that's just something I'll regret a month later.
>if you've never played retro games on real hardware you should eventually get at least an example of your favorite platform and a consumer CRT just to experience it with 100% accuracy so you see it for yourself with your own eyes and know exactly how it's supposed to look and feel.
I did when I was a kid but I just can't bring myself to go back to it. I was looking for a reason to but it looks like no one can give me one.

I should have specified, is there a good game from the 3rd 4th or 5th generation that can't just be emulated (and have that cool shader added to it)?

>>5914536
Unfortunately PS3 displays PS1 games with an incorrect aspect ratio. Still a solid option imo though.

>>5914867
The PS3 would be near perfect for this kind of thing if only it could do proper 240p video out over analog. As it stands though it's one of the best options for PS1 on a flatscreen display for a minimum fuss, maximum fun kind of setup.
Personally I'm all about that PS1-on-Vita life though. Add a Hori grip to the mix so you've got physical triggers for the missing ones and it's pretty majestic. Crisp pixels, nice form factor, dual analogs, good performance, all a boy could want in a portable PS1 experience.

>>5914971
Based as fuck, someone who actually knows a thing or two about emulating, and doing it in style.

>>5914974
Playing at an incorrect aspect ratio or playing PS1 on a tiny flat screen without shaders? You and him are dull..

>>5915064
He is fully aware of the issues and made his choice accordingly, and with emulation there are always going to be issues. As for screens, PSP and Vita actually have their own unique qualities, I personally actually like the way some things look on it. Besides that, Vita is portable, you bring your portable CRT with you for retro gaming brah?

>>5914974
>underage as fuck

>>5914446
PS3. Aspect ratio is fine if you use 480p output. You *do* pay for your games now that you’re an adult, right?

>>5914725
>>5914750
>Does anyone know of any masterpieces that can't be emulated at all?
>There is no Laseractive emulator.
Fucking lol'd

>>5914616
>>5914598
The Playstation was a an unreliable piece of garbage WHEN IT WAS NEW. Half of PS2's initial sales were people replacing their Playstation because Crash Bandicoot wore out the fucking parts on it.

He'd be better off getting a fucking Bleamcast, which only existed in the first place because people were so damn tired of dealing with the original hardware.

>>5915174
This is some level of delusion...
>>5915117
What are you crying about.

>>5915064
>You can't use any option other than the absolute autismal perfection

>>5914813
Holy shit lol that rationalization

>>5914860
>3rd 4th and 5th gen
The only really major thing you'll be missing out on from console games in that generation are the light gun games which it is literal cognitive dissonance to claim are better with mouse aim. There are also a few other novel accessories like ROB but those don't amount to much.

If your video card still has an analog video output on it (vga or dvi) you might want to pick up a crt monitor and good quality controller adapters like from Raphnet which WILL let you use light guns (if you configure it right) since you have plenty of money. An emulation setup like this will give you a 98% identical experience to the real thing.

>>5915202
Not 98 percent since there are way too many factors. He wont get that shit anyway, it's a troll to lure out a 'gotcha!' moment. Guarantee the guy probably has a basic bitch setup where he emulates Earthbound in between jacking off to trannys.

>>5915179
The playstation is an embarrassing piece of hardware, and an unmodded one is a horribly unreliable way to play playstation games in this age. The parts will wear out in a month if their even still working when you get it, and you'll be paying a rediculous amount of money for games that probably won't be readable anymore because a stray piece of hair grazed the surface of the disk 3 years ago.

Have fun.

>>5914496
based

I don't understand why some people are so autismal about the exact method a game is played in. 'Authenticity', if that's your intention, is a console hooked up with composite to a shitty consumer CRT. That's how the vast majority of people played and enjoyed their games. Anything up from there is good. As long as your emulator or your hardware revision or whatever isn't game-breakingly bad, there's no reason to lose your mind over people using it.

>>5915242
the answer is insecurity by people who learnt about old games from the internet

>>5915234
98% isn't an overstatement. If he went to the white of getting and configuring a 15khz rgb monitor I'd say 99%+. It's really just LCD monitors with their atrocious black levels that truly offend me about people's emulation setups but any fixed refresh rate monitor is either going to have screen tearing which really sucks on 2D games or is going to run at a slightly different speed than real hardware.

>>5915249
The thing is I even get wanting to get the absolute best out of old software and hardware. What I don't get is the hatred for people that just want to play some classics without fussing so much.

>>5914446
Retroarch + Beetle PSX. Keep it native res and a filter like Geom/Hyllian/Lottes/Royal.

>>5915270
If authentic console experiences get more and more niche it will be harder to access repair and replacement services to keep his shit maintained.

That's why there isn't nearly as much hostility when it comes to cartridge based systems because their so much easier to keep functional.

>>5914487
>>emulator vs CRT
Why not both?
I emulate and output to either of my computer CRT monitor or PVM.
Flexibility of emulation without the latency or colors of flat panels.
I don't know why it isn't done more.

>>5915242
>I don't understand why some people are so autismal about the exact method a game is played in
You just answered your own question. Because they are autistic.

>>5915381
I don't think this is some grand plan to stimulate the market... wtf... More people buying makes the market worse anyway.
>>5915345
Retroarch is shit.
>>5915270
There's nothing wrong with that, the problem is people saying 'what's the best way to play' or criticizing using real hardware then turning around and refusing or insulting people actually giving them answers and acting like they are a victim of mean 'consumerists' or some shit. By all means emulate and fun on retroshart or whatever on an iPhone, but please don't try feel the need to criticize the real thing or say that emulated and filtered mess is 'the best'.
>>5915237
I still have my PS1 and 2, and they all still work fine. I don't know what you want from me.
>>5915251
The screen, method of output, and whatever he is using to run it will all factor in, as well as whatever Yugoslavian controller will butcher it and the sound will be a far cry from how it should be, but I see what you are saying.

>>5915423
>Retroarch is shit.

>>5915423
Yeah that's a reasonable stance. I love my Vita for PS1, but I've also got a fat PS2 and network adapter on the way, since I also appreciate the real hardware life for things. I guess what really gets under my skin is the elitism that goes on when people just want to play videogames, like having fun is supposed to be hard.

>>5915423
>Affixing "shart" as a suffix to something he doesn't like
>>>/v/

>>5915428
I don't go to any board but this one. How about you take this shit to the Retroshart forums if you want to be a fanboy for a fucking emulator and get offended when someone inserts a (hilarious) quip in their name?
>>5915427
Nice. Also I think at least half of these people don't even have setups or 'configure' emulators, they just want to argue to have something to do. For PS2 I don't play online but I know some people still play SOCOM 2 and other games from that era that 'they don't make like they used to'.

>>5914446

>Retroarch Beetle PSX (software)
>640x480 resolution
>240p filter (just black lines that cut off every other line)
>CRT monitor

Very close to accuracy.

On the other hand, PGXP and HD is what I prefer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMRxBYl-8b4&t=66s

>>5915458
Well the real perk of the network adapter is that it comes with an HDD tray, and it only works with the fat model. So you can save the poor disc drive by running ISOs instead. And while the reproduction ones come with SATA out of the box, only the original Sony IDE ones actually have the damn network connector to begin with. And I'm probably never even going to use that network socket much, but not having it was going to annoy me far too much.
Not sure if I'm going to bother with online stuff, but at least I should be able to FTP games over rather than putting up with the painfully slow USB 1.1 ports.

>>5915478
Oh, that's good. My PS2 still works fine but I found one on the street on garbage day (it was laying right out there, I'm not a garbage picker), and disks would not read. I was thinking of fixing it but maybe I will do that trick, it is an original PS2.

>>5914446
yes

>>5914448
first post
>best post

>>5915179
The only ones crying here are the underage

>>5915202
Looks like there are some good USB lightguns so I'll try one of those. Besides, lightgun games are like 5% or less of games. N64 doesn't even have any. They're short, usually lame games anyways. At this point it seems like there's no real reason to have a hardware setup unless you're crazy about 1st and 2nd generation games or lightgun games (which you should go to an arcade to play anyways).

>>5914446
>Whats the most accurate way to emulate ps1?
>/vr/ goes full retard autist

retroarch > original hardware on a CRT

>>5916246
Its funny cause its true

>>5914606
>>5914610

>>5916230
>Besides, lightgun games are like 5% or less of games. N64 doesn't even have any. They're short, usually lame games anyways.
Imagine being THIS wrong.

>>5917889
Imagine bumping an absolute dumpster fire of a third world emulation thread to defend the good name of lightguns.

>>5914453
no, you can use beetle, which is now really outdated compared to mednafen

>>5915174
>Half of PS2's initial sales were people replacing their Playstation because Crash Bandicoot wore out the fucking parts on it.
holy shit I fucking knew it

>>5918508
I don't think so.