/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Current release, final unless bugs are spotted
-https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

=== NEWS ===

[9-23] Gameplay mod Supercharge released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109107-supercharge-gzdoom-resourcegameplay-mod/

[9-23] Sigil has been updated to version 1.21
https://www.romerogames.ie/si6il

[9-22] The Way of Ira for Blood is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-way-of-ira

[9-16] A new build of Slayer's Testament released
https://knockout.chat/thread/95/30#post-119111

[9-11] SgtMark's first dev diary of VietDoom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRlb3WmRJo

[9-9] ZeroMaster completed MAP07 of Plutonia on UV Pacifist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnFyHjgJgk

[9-5] Could You Would You in a Box released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh5xig7vrvobnqh/Could%20You%20Would%20You%20In%20A%20Box.zip?dl=1

[9-3] Doom4 Vanilla updated to 1.1, MS-DOS version released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-new-v11-ms-dos-edition/

[9-1] Colorful Hell update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1117225#p1117225

[9-1] Doom 4 Vanilla released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-dehacked-project/

[9-1] OTEX, a resource of textures and flats released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-%E2%80%93-update-version-10-released/

[9-1] Fraggle's 'Miniwad' released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108721-miniwadwad-a-minimalist-iwad

[8-29] Joe Rogan interviews John Carmack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlMSe5-zP8

=== PREVIOUS ===

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== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

I like Quake

>>5906906
Duke 3D but with elements from the Alien Franchise.
Heretic and/or Hexen but most of the ranged weapons are musical/music-themed.

>>5906927
>Duke 3D but with elements from the Alien Franchise.
so....uhhhh.....duke 3d?

>>5906906
Anyone got a link to the Ion Fury soundtrack?

>>5906930
By that I mean Xenomorphs, facehuggers, facehugger eggs, Engineer species and maybe also the trilobite proto-facehugger from Prometheus.

Any thoughts or input on these WIPs?

Blow it out your ass!

>>5906914
I like trains

Quake 2 Rogue expansion fucking STINKS.

It's dark as fuck, the new weapons SUCK DICK they're slow as fuck and weak as shit. The levels are boring. Fucking hell is there anything redeeming about Quake 2? The reckoning expansion is the only decent thing about those 3 turds of campaigns

>>5906906
I’M SORRY FOR NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR GAME BARATUS
PLEASE DON’T KILL ME

>>5906914
Favorite weapon?>>5906983

>>5906983
Doomguy should hold it with his left hand.

>>5906983
Maybe put a bit of shadow on the hand covered by the slide when it's racked back.

>>5906914
Favorite Episode?
Favorite Level?
Favorite Enemy?
Favorite Weapon?

>>5906914
Most people do.

The engine that literally changed gaming forever more than almost any other single software.

>>5907059
lol

>>5907062
He's right though, Quake got the ball rolling for a lot of shit.

>>5907062
There are literally thousands of games that have Quake coding in them.

You this new?

>>5907063
shit is right lol

>>5907082
LMFAO EVERYTHING IS SHIT ISN'T HIGHSCHOOL FUN GUISE I AM SO RANDUMB LOL.
What are you even doing here?

Q1 models are so incredibly fugly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9wRxQ_TPI4

>>5907050
No.

>>5907052
That's a nice idea.

The purist in me hates it but Brutal Doom has just been so much fun the past week. Also excited for Vietdoom

>>5907130
mods aren't inherently bad, bd could have just been less buggy and bloated

>>5907085
He doesn't think it's enough to annoy people irl so he has to do it here also.

Is this worth a try?

HMI Module Alpha Humana on approach to Space Station Mercury

>>5907210
those graphics look like shit

>>5907092
you try pioneering real time texture mapped animated 3D models without much support and see how well you do

>>5907210
i don't even know what this is, if it's strafe, then no, its not worth playing

>>5906906
The "get killed by opening doors" glitch in Build games still hasn't happened to me yet. I've played Duke 3D through both DOSBOX and eDUKE32, Ken's labyrinth and evil Al maps via JFbuild, and the first level of TekWar.

>>5907210
Yes, but it isn't as easy as people wanted. Bitch made idiots get all pissy the game isn't as easy as other 'sprite shooters'

Also the person that took that screenshot needs to stop falling for memes. The game looks better without the pixelated shit. More like quake.

>>5906983
The WIP on the right looks like it could be used for something meant for HACX imho.

>>5906906
Anyone want to host a coop sever on zandronum.

>>5907274
>dying to an opening door
Entry level

>"A-"
Real shit

>>5907276
Thanks I'll try it. If the game doesn't automatically give you SSS ranks like DmC then it's absolutely a good thing

Played through the updated Sigil. At least the bullshit part with barons on stairs on e5m7 was altered, and the last map got some little continuation after the cyberdemon. The new cyberdemon (also on e5m7) was nice addition. Good update.

>>5907305
I thought the game was good for about 15 hours or so. It has a lot to offer to keep you coming back if you ended up liking it.

Is it just me or is Plutonia's map 29 complete garbage that ruins the momentum the game had built up?

I'm trying to come up with a theme/element for each level for the 1024x1024 collage project. I don't know how many people are actually interested in participating in this but I'm still going to try anyways. It's fun to think up stuff for this. Some levels have themes and some are specific elements that have to be present in each section. Feel free to give your suggestions.
>Episode 1
>1. Entryway/techbase style
>2. Sewers
>3. Chaingunner mania?
>4. ?
>5. Dark dungeon theme
>6. Crusher mania
>7. Dead Simple clones
>8. Trap mania
>9. Escape the pit (each section must have an exit higher than the last section)
>10. Outdoors theme
>11. Circle themed/only curved sectors

>>5906908
>watched doom annihilation
I don't really understand what the fuck happens in hollywood and I don't know if I want to know at this point

https://youtu.be/DKAFWfXy5vU

>search quake in my folder
>is 90% porn
well darn

>>5907278
How so?

>>5907450
Do I want to ask?

>>5907016
Railgun alone changed fps forever

>>5907130
brutal doom is fun for short bursts. the problem is that people either think it's total dogshit or the most amazing thing on the planet. The reality is that it's just a mediocre mod with a ton of unnecessary features that bog down the experience in my opinion. The Hell on Earth Starter Pack is actually a really great campaign in my opinion, with some fucking awesome levels. I would love to see how VietDoom turns out, just because I think marky mark needs to be a mapper instead of a modder. Brutal Doom was fun but it's far beyond stale. He ran out of original ideas for that mod a long time ago and he's basically only continuing to be that one trick pony because people want him to.

Also, he's a bit of a racist gorehound with nothing better to do than make edgy jokes and a mediocre mod.

>>5907454
It looks like it could be used as the sprite for an energy Pistol.

>>5906983
I am like 99% certain if the slide is back you shouldn't see the pin (whatever that thing the hammer hits) closer.

>>5907580
ok but why cant you zoom with it until quake 3????? checkmate gamers /B))))

for real though that kind of peeved me with quake 2 considering its basically a sniper type weapon

>>5907062
>>5907082
I've been in /vr/doom threads since I was 16, in 2017. I turned 18 early this year. Honestly it was a great place to go as a disenfranchised teen. You guys were welcoming of opinions, and told me a lot about Doom and playing retro FPS games. I loved sharing about the different games and learning tricks on maps. Shit like that still makes me really happy. Comfy boomer vidya with a welcoming community.

My generation bullied the shit out of me. Constantly getting harassed and put down. Being a fat bastard doesn't help anything, and i painted a target on myself a lot, but still, it fucked with my head. To go from that environment to here was a great escape for me. I don't care if you think I'm just some young pussy or something, I valued my time here, and I still do.

To see a young guy, probably the age I showed up, act like this asshole I'm responding to, it makes me mad. I didn't act like this at that age, two fucking years ago. I was mentally ill, angry, and had almost no friends. I hated myself, and I still didn't act this cringeworthy.

I don't know why I felt like sharing, but I guess thanks for being bros, boomer dudes. You got me through high school by actually making me feel welcome somewhere. Doom is a big part of my life, I like sharing it with you guys here.

>>5907580
Shadow Warrior had one first.
Fuck Quake 2, fuck strogg, and fuck grey techbases.

>>5907594
I suppose. Might play around with that idea later.

>>5907595
The firing pin sits in the firing pin housing/breechface, which is 'monolithic' with the slide, if the breechface and firing pin (as well as the extractor plunger), didn't move back, the casing wouldn't go anywhere and cycling wouldn't take place.

>>5907624
>fuck strogg
Don't mind if I do

>>5907627
Better visual demonstration actually.

>>5907642
Gotta love those classic Doom engine trees.

>>5907393
>7. Dead Simple clones
Let's not, that'll first of all be bothersome to get multiple people to do one level together for, and rather few Dead Simple clones are particularly great.

Maybe we just make sure to put a couple of fatsos and spiders as normal enemy encounters in a map, and you just need to kill them to open the exit.
Or killing the fatsos opens the exit, and killing the spiders opens a secret near the end, which, I don't know, gives you a rocketlauncher and a box or two of missiles, but I guess that more than anything rewards progressive play, and does little else for pistol starters, so maybe the secret can go somewhere else, idk.

>>5907634
I dunno why but it makes me think about how fascinatingly simplistic guns are on a conceptual level. They're basically metal sticks that can throw tiny objects so fast they pierce skin. Obviously they're more complex than that but at its most basic level that's essentially a gun.

>>5907430
I'm pretty sure Universal made the movie just to hold onto the rights.

>>5906982
so duke 3d

>>5907393
Are we doing this in conjunction with the Heretic project, or are you going to wait until that's finished?

>>5907674
hold for what?

>>5907702
Dear life, apparently.

>>5907702
Good question. I have not idea. They must think it's a valuable enough property to keep, but not enough to actually attempt making an adequate adaptation with a decent budget.

>>5906908
AlandoGuns joins the ever growing list of gameplay mods that no longer work with the latest GZDoom.
When will the german madman stop?

>>5907709
Isn't AlandoGuns shit?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hexenchads WW@

>>5907695
Just whenever. I want to get the specifics down first so I don't know exactly when it would happen.

>>5907719
I used to play that mod and it was decent for its time. Hearing that is has been victim to Graf's lack of consideration for backwards compatibility is disappointing.

>>5907726

>>5907435
>yfw it's time to kick

>>5906906
Seeders for torrent when

>>5907657
Some guns can be ridiculously simple, to the point of genius.

If you look at old WW2 era and early Cold War SMGs, a lot of those are open-bolt blowback guns, meaning there's no locking system, there's no hammer, striker, or even a separate firing-pin, rather the firing-pin is a nub machined into the face of the bolt, which is basically just a solid weight, making sure the action stays closed long enough that it's safe to extract, but not so heavy that it prevents the action from opening at all.

You pull back the bolt until it catches on the sear, and it's now under spring tension, when you pull the trigger, the bolt is released, thrown forward, picks up a cartridge from the magazine, and puts it in the chamber.
Inertia makes sure the fixed firing-pin detonates the cartridge as soon as it's in the chamber, and pressure from the fired cartridge shoves back at the bolt, eventually overcoming its weight and throwing it back, the casing sticks on the face of the bolt as it travels back, hits a fixed piece of metal (the ejector), that makes it bounce out of the ejection port, and the bolt hits its rearmost point of travel.
By this point, if you had let go of the trigger after the last shot, the bolt catches on the sear and stays there until you pull the trigger again, or if you hold the trigger down, nothing stops the bolt from then being shoved forward by the recoil spring, and the bolt will continue slamming back and forth until you let go of the trigger, or your magazine is empty.

>>5907706
Because they would rather hold onto a property than risk losing the rights and then finding out someone else made a big profit out of it who wasn't them.

>>5907765
Yeah, that sounds like classic studio logic.

>>5907210
What game is it? I can't tell you if it's worth it if I don't know what it is you goober

Hey guys. Same anon looking for an old wad. One of the maps was this long snakelike map of connected straight hallways filled with every monster in order. You'd start with zombiemen, then zdoom stealthed zombiemen, then shotgun guys, then stealth shotgun guys, and so on and so forth, before the map ends with just a shitton of revenants guarding an exit. Does anyone remember a wad like this? I used to play the shit out of it and I cannot for the life of me find it. I must have gone through every notable jokewad ever and yet I still haven't found this thing somehow.

>>5907783
if you don't recognize it, then how would you know if its worth it?
anyway, I think its ultrakill

>not being over 40
Zoomers get out

I bet they weren't even alive when Yugoslavia was a correct assessment in the Animaniacs countries song

Does anyone know what happened to Project Babel? I took pleasure in playing it last year but it hasn't been updated ever since..

>>5907925
Zoomers were born in like 2000 at the earliest, people in their 30s and late 20s would be Millennials.

>>5907210
It looks like a low effort "I wanna make retro, it's suopposed to have pixels, polygons and gore isnt't it" shit.
Probably made on Unity too.
Add in procedural level generation out of uninspired prefabs and the image of the indieshit would be complete.

>>5907706
I've seen people somehow excited for this movie and i can't see it
Is it the female protagonist?
Is it just being slighty more faithfull by 1%?
I just don't see it

>>5907589
Use Beautiful Doom, Ketchup, and HD Pack.
Cool shit and and little bloat.

>>5907958
I haven't seen any hype for it at all, so hell if I know.

only barely decent thing in this movie

>>5907964
The Doom wiki twitter even showed excitement for it
Some peole on Doomworld and even SgtMark liked it

>>5907974
That's just bizarre to me. It's a cheap direct-to video movie.

>>5907384
It's just you. Map29 of Plutonia is fantastic. It is admittedly easier than the maps before it, though.

>>5907050
I always found it funny that doomguy used his left hand for fist and and pistol, but his right hand on the trigger for the shotguns and plasma rifle.

>>5907393
>Dead Simple clones
We've had more than enough of those in other wads.

>>5907931
It always irks me that modern teens keep dropping millenial memes like they're about their generation, and keep calling actual millenials boomers.

>>5907971
Why do the imps look like archviles

>>5907274
It happened to me a couple of times in Blood, and at least once in Duke. It wouldn't be a meme if it didn't happen to multiple people.

>>5908025
Ask Doom 2016 the same thing

>>5907274
Maybe it has something to do with it being an older version of the engine because I remember it happening a lot more frequently in the early shareware versions of duke.

>>5908158
do you need glasses?

>>5907274
When i was a kid I used to be terrified of walking through those rotating doors in rabid transit because more often than not i managed to get myself killed without knowing why

>>5906983
ChopBlock223, is that you?

>>5907980
Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it sucks, hell Mad Max, Bronson, Blair Witch, and Halloween were made on pretty low budgets, and were awesome films.

Not saying that DA was awesome, because it was just an average direct-to-dvd popcorn flick.

>>5908001
He’s ambidextrous.

>>5908017
>>5907931

Spotted the boomer

>>5908001
Muscles and armor too bulky. Can't reach the holster on his left thing with his right hand. Or something like that.

>>5907216
It's obviously aping Playstation limitations. Doing a good job at it too.

>>5907971
What movie is this?

>>5908436
Who?

>>5908672
I'm 27

>>5907958
personally not excited for it, but im gonna watch it for kicks.

>>5908483
>Blair Witch
Was absolute garbage. The rest were fine.
You don't need a huge budget to make a good movie, or a good anything. You just have to write and work within your means and hope it catches people right.

Did anyone actually buy the recent console ports of Doom? They got updated today and I'm curious about what actually got fixed.

>>5907971
Is she floating?

>>5908878
>Restored lighting rendering to match the original game visuals.
>Updated sound and music playback speed and tone to match the original game audio
>General game performance and user experience improvements.
>Slayers Club members can now link their Bethesda.net account to receive the Indigo DOOM Marine Skin and DOOM (1993) nameplate when DOOM Eternal launches.
Still not enough, probably
It doesn't seem to metioned the chainsaw erasing the fists or warping from Chasm to Black Tower from the Master Levels

>>5908947
I saw the patchnotes, but wanted to actually see it in action.
>chainsaw erasing the fists
That's how it was in the original.

>>5908953
I meant how you could not switch back to them

>>5908956
Yeah, that's how it was in the original. You grabbed a chainsaw, and you couldn't switch back to your fist unless you got a Berserk pack.

>>5908947
There’s also two other skins for Doom 2 and Doom 3.

>>5908971
I wonder how this is going to be handled for PC users.

>>5908971
Glad to see the Quake Champions skin for Doomguy isn’t going to waste.

>>5908971
>>5908992
It's such a nice model. If ain't broken don't fix it.
About the face, it's not that accurate but I like it.

Hope this game actually delivers aside all this content with pre-orders, Slayer Club and DLCs.

>>5909043
i noticed that from what we've seen of eternal's face, it might be different from in qc

>>5908947
>Still not enough
They should add the other expansions already.
Final Doom and No Rest For The Living are some of the best officially published levels for Doom.

>>5908953
>>5908956
>>5908963
desu wouldn't mind if they made an exception that would let you go back to the fists at will, but it's a pretty small difference, I mean you wouldn't be using the fist if you had the chainsaw, unless you picked up Berserk.

>>5909073
I believe the 360 port let you switch between them at will. It also mapped each of the weapons to a d-pad direction.

>>5908483
>Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it sucks, hell Mad Max, Bronson, Blair Witch, and Halloween were made on pretty low budgets, and were awesome films.
True. I didn't mean to knock on low budget movies. There are plenty of great ones. This just doesn't look like one of them.

what are the optimal visual settings in gzdoom for visibility? (im talking gamma, brightness, and that sorta stuff)

Why was id never hit with a lawsuit over the blatantly plagiarized songs in Doom?

>>5909141
Nope.

>>5909147
I asked "why"

>>5909149
Bobby Prince.

>>5909141
Dumb luck.

>>5909156
He's as bewildered with that outcome as anyone else.

>Quake was used as the basis for Half Life
>Both games involves aliens invading through portal technology gone wrong
When are we going to get the Doom/Quake/Half Life crossover game we've been waiting for?

when are you grandpas are going to get with the times and play quake live

>>5909193

>>5909193
> all had weird final bosses (doom 2, not 1)

>>5909193
samsara?

>>5909196
>Quake Champions

I want to see a sitcom of a bunch of 90 FPS characters sharing a house, as they order food, play video games, do sitcom stuff, and also fight evil on occasion.

Ideas for episodes.

>Duke, Caleb, and Lo-Wang have been challenged to do some errands. Hilarity ensues

>Doomguy has to somehow kick his Megasphere addiction

>The main characters go to a strip club and end up trashing the place.

>Ranger and Security Officer write a collection of short stories chronicling their adventures, and accidentally becomes too famous for their own good.

>Parias and Corvus get into a feud over who has better magic. The resulting show-off contest ends up getting out of hand

>Blazkowicz must contain himself upon hearing news of a Neo-Nazi rally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thEbQkcjUWk

>>5909193
I am still impressed by the massive overlapping of Source-Valve and Carmack ID engine games

If the focus of the board was on vidya rather than anime I wouldn't be surprised it had its own board.

https://youtu.be/OY2_53oydbM

Though I imagine 80% of it would be pajeets, brazilians and slav shitpsting about counter strike 1.6, 10% doomfags complaining about they are ruining the board, 5% other games, 3% Sven co-op and 2% a mix of carmack smug shitpost

How would you call that board?

>>5908971

>Mfw this fan art comes true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3QapKZzQqk

>>5909196
Is that real?

>>5907971
Exploitable

>>5908693
Doom Annihilation

>>5909213
Sadly, no.

Unpopular opinion:

Duke3D episode 3 is garbage. These levels look like they were made in an hour.

>>5909224
blow it out your ass

>>5909224
Your opinion is pretty shit

>>5909224
Episode 2 is the bad one. Every level looks the same.

>>5909224
Thank you. Your opinion is important to us.

My copy of quake live wont work even after re-installing

>>5909241
Isn't this cultural appropriation you cumbrain?

>>5909245
yes

>>5909241
Wow. Thats so sexy. Thanks for posting this bro. I cant wait to jack off and cum out of my dick to a stylized version of the Cacodemon from beloved FPS franchise Doom. I couldn't just go off and find porn on my own, I need porn posted in every single thread in 4chan.

>>5909252
no problem

>>5909194
When I'll eat Hunter's Juicy Amazon Ass
Basically Never

>>5909196
I really fucking wish it was real.
The model is from the Steam version of Final Fantasy XV but damn is so good.
Valve just doesn't give a damn about HL or making games for that matter and unfortunately we have to accept that.

>>5909205
Quake Champions has the potential to be awesome but mismanagement and confusing development got in the way. Too bad because the models look fantastic.

>>5909241
>Curious to see if there's more Doom lewds because of this Cacodemon
>There's more than I expected
>Sweet baby jesus, it's 90% trash

>>5909224
Episode 3 good and I prefer it over Episode 2. That one isn't bad but it drags for too long and be a little too confusing.

>>5909253
thanks op i cum on cat she hiss at penis

>>5909258
guy on the right looks like Carmack if he was in one of those "the nerd turns into the handsome suave playboy" types of movies and the guy on the left, no.

>>5909258
The guy on the right supposed to be Carmack, which is fine.
But the guy on the left? Who is he, Romero?
Romero ain't the prettiest guy in the world but that dude... Just no.

>>5909218
There is a doom movie? I mean recent?

>>5907726
Every time I want to replay HeXen I just don't for some reason.
Last time I replayed it was when I played the port on the N64 that I found for dirt cheap and it wasn't perfect but it was better than I expected.

Most of my deaths in quake 3 are because I keep falling off the stage

>>5909303
I just told you what it's called. Come on, anon.

>>5907971
no

>>5909241
>Ass freckles

>>5909262
>>Sweet baby jesus, it's 90% trash
let me guess: "themed" after doom and not about doom?

>>5908971
>gray
>orange or yellow
>red
perfect
hope they also got armors based off 64, 3 and the original praetor, plus costumization like exposed faces, backpacks with marineguys, caco hoodies or even stuff like the classic radsuit

>>5909354
Q3 mugshot

>>5909258
>pilot
wut. they want to make a tv show about this? fucking weird.

Is Bobby Prince still alive?

>>5909372
are any of us

>>5908973
They don't care about PC

I can't wait for Quake V.

>>5909354
They might add the other skins from Quake Champions, like Quake 3 Arena, Doom 3, and Doom 2016, since the three Doomguy skins are just the recolored model from Quake Champions, but with the shoulder cannon and arm blade.

>>5909401
It’s going to be made by Machinegames.

>>5909405

Just what do Quake's monsters do all day?

>>5909464
Looking pretty 'tarded

>>5909464
>Doom like
I still remember this.

>>5908025
Imps are lesser versions of summoners (archviles) doom 2016

Why are there a lot of Russians that are really into Half Life? Nothing wrong with it ofc, but why are there a lot of Russian Half Life fans in particular?

Also, is it possible to bhop/strafejump in Quake 1-3's console ports?

>>5909503
>Why are there a lot of Russians that are really into Half Life?
As a russian myself, I would assume it has something to do with (post-)soviet obsession with science and engineering. Sure, that's only one of the many factors, but also a pretty big one.

A Doom movie may never work as a good movie but i always imagine it could be good enough by "Doom standards" if done by someone that are actually passionate about Doom and somewhat professionals.
I feel like animation instead of live action could do justice, 2D or 3D, due to the nature of the series or most of the designs/aesthetics to add into a movie or a miniseries.
A lot of Doom makes it sound too crazy of a heavy metal video game concept for story to even matter but these movies don't even feel like trying to take place inside a video game.
>FPS segments
>Face segments similar to how MCU has the inside of Tony's helmet with the "HUD" next to Doomguy's face
>Narrator could be the "they are rage" voice whose dialouge also resembles the intermission texts screens, so he occasionally talks to Doomguy
>Balance between humanizing Doomguy and keeping him simple (no dialouge for example)
>Some focus on other characters just in case, like UAC scientists such as that RoE lady and D2RPG dude talking about him
>Morgan, Crash or Phobos also making appearences, maybe Betruger, Olivia, Hayden or other "lore" bullshit too
>Maybe don't restrict it to one specific portrayal of Doom if needed, specially since each game must have something interesting
>Crazy action parts (and horror too) that fit Doom thematically but not Doom's gameplay, like Doomguy throwing a barrel at some imp since that will probably never be a mechanic as far as i know
>Humor/drama done right
(count)

>>5909598
>Easter eggs/references can be neat (don't fucking reuse the scientist named Carmack bit)
>Some occasional "isolation" since this is about a one guy vs many enemies kind of series
>Maybe even come up with new weapons and enemies
>Did i mention a variety of monsters and weapons being used too?
>Actually use the designs from the games because SWAT officers as UAC marines is literally Captain N levels of faithfullness (even with the Doom 3 ones in mind)
Like it may never happen/could still be executed badly but i feel like if someone just tried, it could at least give justice even if still a bad movie.
It's probably a mix of "Doom can't work into a movie" and not putting enough effort because of taking the series at face value that one wouldn't consider even the music or demons as iconic or interesting.

What is the brutally difficult yet fair if you take the time to get better (aka "dark souls") of Doom/Doom 2 WADS?
inb4 Plutonia/Evilution.

>>5909343
Eeeeh pretty much.
You have the Cookie Demon(that Cacodemon girl) which feels more inspired and can stand on its own without associating it with Doom at all.
Then you have shit like HDoom,which is basically anime girls in Doom cosplays,that's their only selling point, they're bland and unoriginal.
Then you have those that go more to the monster girl territory but the things the artists add to make them sexier or lewd clash with the original design. It's a "Frankenstein monster" of lewdness. In other words fugly.

>>5909709
At least there's that Doom Baroness I've seen in a few pics, like where she's taking a selfie with a very concerned and confused Doomguy, I think that's a good look.

>See anons talking about the new Doom movie
>Remember how Fred Jones in the first live-action Scooby Doo movie looked like a younger Doomguy

>>5909709
>Then you have those that go more to the monster girl territory
you mean hdoom

>>5909721
I mean that they look more monstrous.
Hdoom feels more like cosplayers.

>>5909716
That one isn't too bad,It's pretty funny though.

>>5909752

>>5909752
>>5909756
What mod dnf?

>>5909752
>walk up to pig cop head
>"HEY DID YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR PREORDER DEALS?"

>>5909709
>goes to rule 34 xxx
>drawing of doomguy with his ass slapped, along with a carrot dildo and cacodemon anal beeds
we did it
we fixed doom porn
after all the doomgals and hdoom monster girls, we got actual doomguy sexualized

>>5909768
Duke Nukem 3D:Alien Armageddon

>>5909771
Nice one

>>5909776
Oh its the coop one?

Fuck I need to play this with someone someday.

>>5909778
Yes it is.
It's really fun.
You can also play it solo with just one of the characters

>>5909709

>>5909752
Did the base game of Duke 3D ever use those voxel things? I haven't played it in a long time

>>5909783
Yes, that's the joke

>>5909784
It doesn't.
But every pickup weapon sprites in the mod are voxels.

>>5909780
Trying it right now its pretty good. I dont like the weapons model swaps but hey. its more duke. Got get dnf as well.

>>5909793
That decap blood on the body. MS Paint

Reminder that Doomguy is a virgin

>>5909829
>tits-are-temporary-but-DOOM-is-ETERNAL.jpg

>>5909780
>>5909776

I just wished you could use the render from world tour in this stuff.

>>5909598
>>5909604
Who are you?
Because I want to salute you and promote your idea.

>>5909839
Just a Doom obsessed nerd i guess.
Maybe when some random fans try and make their own movie with enough effort and autism, everyone would see the potential and it could be the best adaption to Doom possible.

you guys ever use shaders for gzdoom? there's a neat one that adds scanlines

>>5909829
so, the power of nofap + noporn is real

>>5909709
I feel like this is a reason why OC's as in, someone's personal characters, exist.
When fanfiction or someone's view on media ends up going to detached from official material or creates a different version of it, you might as well make your own thing from it.
Or even just take some inspiration from an aspect of something.

>>5906908
this shit was updated today
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107960-bloodicide-~-8-levels-for-gzdoom/
the first level handed my ass good

>>5909245
seethe

>>5909252
cope

>>5909851
Native dithering + posterization

>>5909879
are you talking about these ones?
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53250
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=61569

so many mods, so little time

>>5909982
What mods are you using here?

>>5909982
>that medkit
IMMERSION RUINED

>>5909764
YES?

>>5906908
is this newsworthy?
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-masters-of-doom-television-series-casts-carmack-and-romero/
>dat romero

>>5910075
It's a pretty bad romero. Or maybe just a shit picture.

>>5910086

>>5909994
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=65966

>>5910096
ehhh

ep4 vs op4!
who wins??
based sandy or badass randy???

I have deleted the backup folder of my previous installation, in it were my doom and quake maps that I had not finished
I wanted to finish this, maybe some of you remember
https://imgur.com/a/t8tU7jb
also lost this https://imgur.com/a/a1na2qD and the goldeneye dam map

>>5910192
Models like this and the lines from Ranger just makes me so fucking mad. They could've made an actual sequel to Quake 1, with a true sequel to QuakeWorld multiplayer.

Classic as fuck, just to jar the industry with it, and make a good ass game. Fuck.

>>5910096

>>5910245
There’s still a chance that they could reuse some models for something like that. They’re already going to be reusing the Doomguy model for Doom Eternal. Maybe a future Quake game could do the same with Ranger, and the weapons.
I also really liked what they did with some of the weapons from Quake 2, 3, and 4. Especially the Quake 2 Super Shotgun.

>>5910075
>>5910096
That hair looks more girly than metal

>>5910262

I love seeing revvies around corners

>>5910262

All this QC image dumping makes me mad that I was too retarded to fully figure out how to use NinjaRipper to rip models and textures and get them into blender or some other program
I have a feeling that one day QC will get axed due to low popularity and we'll never get to see that glorious Ranger model again

>>5910262

>>5909231
>>5909237
>>5909240
>>5909242
>>5909262
>people like it more because "muh city levals". The quality of episode 2 is much higher.

>>5910302
Yeah, it does make me sad. Instead of admitting they mismanaged the game, suits will just go "There's no market for Quake any more."

>>5910307
I’m disappointed that the Gladiator skin isn’t available anymore.

>>5909224
I like Episode 3. But I do think its overrated.

>>5910262
how do you even overdesign like this?
I can't even model a low poly slingshot

>>5910331
Time and money

>>5909354
>>5909404
I would love if they added the 2016 Praetor suit to Eternal. One of the best armor designs of the decade.

>>5910323
I think there’s still a chance for Quake,

>>5910338
I cant believe anon fucking died before he could finish typing his thoughts
Many thanks to his relatives for clicking "submit" on his final post
RIP

If you could go back in time and change or add something to Quake 1's singleplayer, what would it be?

>>5910334
It’s definitely possible.

>>5910346
Replace medkits with regenerating health

>>5910353
t. arcane dimensions mapper

>>5909224
>>5909240
Gay opinions, all three original episodes are solid as hell.

>>5910346
Actual bosses and/or a berserk pack for the axe.

>>5910334
It's a little busy, but overall p good.

>>5907054
>Favorite
The Elder World
Palace of Hatred
Shambler
Thunderbolt

>>5910096
>>5910075
Romero isn't exactly Fabio or anything, but Jesus Christ could they have found an uglier fucking guy to play him?
It looks like they deliberately picked an ugly guy.

>>5910357
You know, if sock was to make his own game, I doubt he would have fared better at it than Romero. In fact, Daikatana is at the vety least still remembered. AD: The Game, without Quake backing it up to leech from, would be out of picture in two months.

>>5906914
Me too.

>>5907054
>Favorite Episode?
Episode 3: The Nether World

>Favorite Level?
E4M7: Azure Agony

>Favorite Enemy?
The zombie. I really love all of them though.

>Favorite Weapon?
Tossup between the Super Nailgun and the Rocket Launcher.
They feel just so GOOD to use.

>>5910295

>>5910075
They got this guy for Tom Hall?

>>5910346
Bosses

>>5910392
They better have someone good for Sandy.

>>5910353

>>5910406
Who could play 1993 era Sandy?

>>5910414
Jim Carrey?

>>5909598
>>5909604
"Doom movie" can work out just fine... In the hands of a director that fucking knows the target audience and what he is doing.
The problem so far is that they try to make it more "movie" than "Doom", i.e. add stupid ass plot that goes nowhere, trying to extablish and at least somewhat develop characters (and failing at it, but it still tries), and so many other unnecessary things that are expected from a "movie", but bog down the "Doom" part of it.
In the end we are left with a shitty hlafbaked movie with only bare relation to Doom and some references sprinkled on top.

They don't realise that Doom movie does not need a lot of plot or any characters besides Doomguy and maybe one or two side characters to provide some breathers/exposition between/during action. And the plot could be very basic, like "Hellgates open on streets of a city, Demons are killing everyone, military tries to interfere but fails, and among all the carnage walks Doomguy, killing all the demons that stand in his way, while he goes on to close the hellgate." A regular routine day for Doomguy, a disaster/action movie for the audience.

Another way it can be done is following the "Hardcore Henry" example, when the whole movie is shot in first person from perspective of one guy, with as little cuts as possible.

>>5909780
IS there a way to disable AI companion they seem to straddle yourself with?
I haven't tried it yet since all reviews Ive heard were talking about a companion that follows you.

>>5910435
>"Hardcore Henry"
>with as little cuts as possible.
Lolwut? Have you even seen it? There is like a cut every two seconds.

>>5910437
shouldve put it with "but as little cuts as possible", but I think the meaning is conveyed right anyway.

I guess intentionally pretending to "not getting the idea" for the sake of argument is a longstanding internet tradition.

>>5909598
A Doom movie could always work but not in the hands of shitters squatting on the license.

>>5910386
https://youtu.be/95FKKKz2USk

>>5910446
I guess expecting others to be telepaths just KNOWING what you have REALLY meant is another one.

>>5910449

>>5908971
>not Doom 3 marine
Lame.

pro quake when civvie

>>5910509
anon, i...

Hexen II is based
still looks great too

>>5910295
>>5910386
>>5910449

Why marine from Doom 3 had different armor from everyone else?

>>5910518
Yep, great game. Very nice models/animation for the time. Good combat too. It's a shame some of the puzzles are so frustrating.

>>5910075
Well that looks all kinds of wrong, obviously.

>>5910075
>>5910096
"carmack" looks absolutely atrocious
Instead of "smug rockstar" feel, he gives off a "girly hipster" one.

>>5910295
>>5910386
>>5910449
>>5910458
>>5910532

>>5910557
>We couldn't find a smug 20-something actor

>>5909946
Just retroshader. GZDoom handles dithering. Can look at bit messy at times but I don't mind.

>>5910559

>>5909850
Because what you’d said, looks like this.

>>5910538

>>5910565

>>5910581

>>5910505
That helmet has dunning-krueger syndrome or some shit

>>5910307
A shame any of the modern id games can be lost in time when longivety and preservation are part of their DNA
They will probably never release any source code again

>>5910559
>the arch-vile

>>5910596

>>5906949
Anyone?

>>5910616

>>5910075
>>5910096
I don't feel so good

>>5910331
It's easy to get carried away in mechanical design. People tend to pile on details to drown the onlooker in visual noise. Form should always follow function. Busy areas need an equal number of 'calm' areas to rest your eyes.

t. CAD monkey (I only design engine parts but you get the idea)

>>5910620
It's on Youtube

>>5910620
Just extract the fookin files m8

>>5907059
>>5907063
If John Carmarck hadn't been so into the Hacker Ethic / open source solutions, he'd easily be a billionaire Steve Jobs type today.

The whole concept of 3d models was pioneered by Carmarck and his ideas for rendering them forms the basis of virtually all 3d game engines stem from the ideas found within the Quake engine - if not the direct code.

>>5910538

He just arrived and never got to change his attire before shit went down

>>5910651
he has 50 million dollars in his pocket

>>5910651
Yes, because 1980 Battlezone wasn't at all polygon-based. Uh-huh. There weren't Virtua Fighter and Daytona, there wasn't Fade to Black, a shitton of flat-shaded 3d games in general. Same year as Quake didn't have fully 3D Azrael's Tear developed completely independently from Quake. And Sweeney was developing Unreal's engine for 3 years already, two years to go. And Tomb Raider had its own engine, cross playform, no less. But yees, all hail holy Carmack.

>>5910651
>The whole concept of 3d models was pioneered by Carmarck
strictly false.

For all of the Carmacks genius, he didn't invent anything, only used what had been done bofore him in a more efficient manner.

Polygons were used in games long before him in arcades from as soon as late 80's (Winning Run)
Ultima Underworld ('92) used polygons for some decorations like tables, chairs, ankhs and so on, and in fact its press release demo was direct inspiration behind Wolf3D, Doom and eventually Quake.

Descent ('95) already used textured polygons for both the enemies and environment.

There's quite a few polygonal PSX games released in 94-95, that had full texturing, even if it was wobbly.

All that was before Carmack even began working on the Quake engine.

>>5910656
50 million dollars is cool, but he'd surely have at least double that if he'd patented some of his techniques.

It's hard to overstate how ground breaking some of his ideas were. I remember everyone else at the time talking about voxels as the next step.

>>5910668
One rich guy getting even more rich < Teach the world how you do things

>>5910651
>The whole concept of 3d models was pioneered by Carmarck
Wrong.

>>5910662
>For all of the Carmacks genius, he didn't invent anything
This. He tied a lot of pre existing techniques together in very, very efficient ways, but it builds upon the work of many different people,

>>5910651
Remember when it took Steve dying for people to admit he wasn't that cool?
Also 3d models were already a concept before id was even made

>>5910652
But he got his armor from armory. And the armor you find looks the same.

>>5910651
>If John Carmarck hadn't been so into the Hacker Ethic / open source solutions, he'd easily be a billionaire Steve Jobs type today.
He already has many millions of dollars, more than he knows what to really do with.

>The whole concept of 3d models was pioneered by Carmarck and his ideas for rendering them forms the basis of virtually all 3d game engines stem from the ideas found within the Quake engine - if not the direct code.
No, you're getting this all wrong, what was revolutionary was applying the concept of Binary Space Partitioning (a concept predating his own birth by a year), in a mass market consumer product, as the means of having a fast and detailed (pretty much) three dimensional world for a game in 1993, the only way to actually do such a thing at that time.
Applying it again in 1996, Quake, this time in actual full software 3D (which wasn't an easy task in itself), using the necessary optimization of BSP trees, allowing it to run on consumer grade hardware, once again the only realistic way to make such a game at that exact time.

John Carmack doesn't really have anything to do with "the concept of 3D models", you're a fucking retard.

>>5910705
3d models first appeared thanks to guy from SLC who founded Pixar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5seU-5U0ms

>>5910707
Standard issue and special ops or something like that.

>>5910668
>but he'd surely have at least double that if he'd patented some of his techniques
Which goes against his beliefs, and he's already incredibly wealthy, he outright had his cake and ate it because of his intellect and his principles.

>>5910698
>He tied a lot of pre existing techniques together in very, very efficient ways, but it builds upon the work of many different people
Which is part of his philosophy, that nothing should stop you from being able to improve on a concept if you're able to, because it's more fun and serves everyone's interests.

>>5910712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9sytPC1l0o
Apparently the first feature film to use CGI.

>>5910742
>Resurrection of Evil above Doom 3
>Despite having 3 new weapons is so damn easy
>Implying that Doom 3 is the best Doom game

Nice try

>>5910748
Hmm I think it's ironic just me though

>>5910748
> above
its clearly below it
what are you talking about

>>5910307
>TFW only Doomguy, BJ and Sorlag are available.

That just sucks, QC has so many amazing models but because the devs didn't know what the target audience is, it became a failure.
At this point I better wait for a single player Quake game, maybe Gothic possibly.
But if it is made by Machine Games then screw that.

>>5910764
Monstrous Doom Kleptomania

>>5910764

>>5910769
Why you're disgusted,anon?

>>5910767
Monstrous Doom Katastrophe sounds better

>>5910791
I'm too autistic too enjoy crossovers. I also disprove of men prancing around in gimp suits.

how would an arena shooter featuring all the iconic 90s FPS characters work? like if there is a shotgun pickup does the player get the shotgun of the character they are playing (so duke would get the pump shotgun but if you were caleb you would get the double barrel shotgun) or would it work based on the current map so if you are in black messa everyone just picks up the spas12? same with the powerups, would they be placed around the map or QC style abilities? i guess you could just make it so the server choses how the game is played.

>>5910803
This isn't strictly for your question, but I've always liked the idea of each episode having its own weapon set.

>>5910803
Something something Samsara

I find it odd how the chaingun and plasma in Doom Eternal seem to have their DPS and firerate swapped around. One would be led to believe fucking overheated plasmoids would hit harder than any high power round.

>>5910816
I find it odd how the HMG fires slow projectiles now. It seems redundant.

>>5907054
>Episode
The Elder World. Episode 1 is decent, but the weaker roster of course hurts it, as well as the easier gameplay due to being the shareware episode. Episode 3 has nice lighting, but I find the levels far too short and simple, I found myself reaching the end and thinking "that was it?". Episode 2 was novel for its vertical nature, but that also inhibited it, you feel like you make less progress and the levels feel more like a slog.

The Elder World has a few big strengths. One, it is the one with barely any ogres, you spend the game fighting this overly common enemy and finally get a break from them. I also love the open design, stuff like E4M4 features some of the most nonlinear gameplay in vanilla Quake. The increased level of challenge is welcoming, plus I also am crazy enough to love the spawn in all its painful glory. The abstract design also worked great for Quake, it was taking the Lovecraftian mindset to its logical conclusion.

>Favorite Level
Palace of Hate. Mobs of Shamblers, open design.

>Favorite enemy
The spawn. There should have been more in Quake. Any mods to increase spawn output so that there are 20x the amount of spawns where one is located?

>Favorite Weapon
Grenade Launcher. Just is a lot more satisfying than point and shoot. Even more fun when combined with spawns in E4M6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHG-SPmoTS8

>>5910843
Those models look like shit.

>>5910828
It's even weirder because they made the new chaingun extremely reliable and they even did away with the annoying prefire windup from 2016, so it just flatout outclasses the AR now. Accuracy isn't even a detriment because most of the combat won't take place at distances 10 feet and beyond. Which is good because fuck cowadoody ARs.

I actually hate how Doom 3 had to screw over the concept of the chaingun. It already was a low-end machinegun equivalent in the classic games, except it was cooler by virtue of it being a handheld minigun.
What do we need a fucking rifle in a futuristic setting for?

Oh that's right, we're talking the same company that couldn't produce a shotgun that could hit the broad side of a barn, or grenades that didn't bounce all over like rubber marbles.

Best way to play blood? Anytime I try to search for anything blood related I get medical shit

>>5910710
the BSP isn't magic you dumbass. the reason Carmack decided to use a BSP was because he needed the game to run faster in june 1993 and it was the only way. BSPs aren't inherently the best at anything and they are certainly not the superior choice for a FPS given that they require a lengthy precompilation and can't be changed at all during runtime.

>>5910435
The movie should be done sort of like the Doom comics. Cheesy, over the top, with as little focus on plot as possible. Plot is like porn. Let's get Doomguy with a trash can chasing down a baby from hell and murdering it. Jump cut to 10 tit women from Mars who Doomguy blows apart because he is not easily swayed like Duke. We need more shit you can buy from Home Depot for him to murder things with, perhaps a lawn mower. Yes, we can have a first person perspective of Doomguy chasing down the demons that may or may not exist with a lawn mower while saying nothing but the occasional obscenity in a high pitched insane voice.

>>5910843
Don't link to this trashheap of a channel please.

>>5910843
A healthy S O Y Injection

let's face it; nu Doom was shit

>>5910075
>Can read easily available book designed as documentary
>Ignores it to watch a television show focusing on drama

>>5907763
>Greasegun
Now I want a FPS where you use a glue gun to suffocate enemies to death.

>>5910869
Fuck off.

>>5910843
>"unedging" models to lowest
>talking about how he wanted to call it "Quake Eternal" because it fits
>talking about how it can't be "Quake Eternal" because lore and and other arguments
>i.e. making up his own bullshit argument, admitting its bullshit, then dismantling your own bullshit with more bullshit
what in the flying fuck is even...

I actually watched the whole vid because Im at work and has nothing better to do.
Holy shit this guy is cancer incarnate.

>>5910874
Nice try, NuDoomer/Zoomer. We're all here forever.

>>5910885
This anon speaks the truth.

>>5910705
Carmack and jobs aren't even close to being comparable.

>>5910863
It was the superior choice at the time. What other algorithm would you have applied to make a game like this run smoothly on a 486 computer in 1993, and ok on a 386 computer?

>>5910853
The models look like they were put at the lowest settings. I wish the modder could make their own.
In terms of gameplay is impressive.

>>5910843
>>5910867
>>5910884
>Midnight

Oh god,this guy is one of the worst things to happen in Doom community in recent years.
I gave him a chance,I seriously hoped he wasn't one of those cancerous channels but I was wrong,dead wrong.
The fact he makes sure all his videos are slightly above 10 minutes in order to get that dosh and also fills them with a shit ton of ads (he's one of the reasons I use adblock),I know YT system is shit but this is being greedy as fuck.

He also spreads misinformation regarding Doom lore and other franchises,this is wikipedia levels of research. He drags so much and most of the time his videos are filled with nothing particularly interesting regarding the subject matter. It's stale as hell.

The modding parts are not even worth it:meme shit,mods that everyone who spent at least a year know about them with the addition of clickbait titles.
Sometimes he can't even play them right.
I remember when he made a video regarding the whole "mortally challenged controversy" like 6 months after everyone else in the community forgot about it
It's like watching a newbie acting like an expert,what a trainwreck.

>>5909780
it's also extremely horny
>>5910436
yes, he even said that in the post you're replying to

Which one do you prefer in Alien Armageddon in terms of weapons?
Duke or Bombshell?

>>5909776
Ah yes, Juggernaut the second best remembered monster after dopefish in the commander keen series

any tips or tricks for creating my own 2.5D FPS?

Can we all agree that episode 1 and 5 of Doom are great, and everything in between are shit?

>>5911009
Nah.

Out of all OG Quake content, "Tim Willits" levels (henceforth, TW-levels) interest me now by far the most.

The general idea "every mappers makes his own version of Quake, uses same tools to his ends, thus self-expressing" - okay, got it.

Petersen like walled himself into his corner and was doing his own thing, which is 7 of his released levels plus beta ending - okay, also understandable.

What interests me most in TW-levels is that they represent like the polar opposite to the Petersen's levels from the viewpoint of the general idea of "each mapper makes his own Quake essentially". Petersen, out of four is the one who adhered to this the most precisely. It's literally 7 consecutive levels, some of which are absolutely not intended for shotgunstart + beta end, that was meant to follow immediately after.

TW-levels represent polar opposite in that they sort of dabble in every pie, so to speak. There is techbase level (E4M1), there are two levels of their own with unique gimmick, flying stones (E1M2, E1M3), there is a collaboration with McGee (E3M6), a Romero-like level, I guess (E2M7), dunno how to classify E1M4 yet, E1M5 could be maybe viewed as Petersen-esque a bit? maybe not - and, finally, there are Wind Tunnels, which are like, what the fuck that even is.

Out of those levels, the last one to fall into place was either Underearth or Wind Tunnels. Underearth contains credits secret (TW&TC, raven.wad) and is the only level that's missing from the early level listing Romero once shared, if not mistaken? While Wind Tunnels, in beta3, doesn't have any enemies making it obvious they were last month's addition. By the way, there being no enemies or pickups makes it apparent the Wind Tubes hurt you on landings in the way very similar to how Petersen did it in E4M2 and some other levels, so it might be a sort of dab on Petersen after all.

Anyway, what I mean to say, is that TW-levels comprise a sort of vertical slice of the game, they somewhat dab in(cont)

>>5911009
episode 1 is a snoozefest on anything below nightmare difficulty, but then again so are episodes 2 and 3
e4m1, e4m2, and sigil are nice though

>>5910858
Fresh supply

>>5910858
gdx or nblood, fresh supply is still broken and will never get updated

>>5911027
got a link to nblood?

>>5907763
fun fact about the m3, it only cost 3 dollars to manufacture, whereas the thompson cost 25 dollars to make. as a result most american soldiers in ww2 that had a .45 smg were carrying an m3, not a thompson.

>>5911030
http://nukeykt.retrohost.net/ for nblood
personally i prefer gdx, so i'll link to that too:
http://m210.duke4.net/

>>5911023
(cont-d) - or seemingly somewhat dab in every major thing in their own ways. Like, obviously, E4M1 differs from other techbase levels, same could be said about other sort of dabs as well. What I am leading to, is that TW-levels could sort of form some sort of commentary on Quake taken as a whole (E1M4 could be even imagined as a commentary upon E1M2 or E1M3, although this is simply a wild guess).

Anyhow, I haven't replayed them lately, well, did E1M2 and took some other levels for quick spins. What do I have to say. First, E1M2 at least is meant strictly for shotgunstart. You get nailgun ammo there, but there isn't a nailgun, and that nailgun ammo is instead hinting upon where optional stuff is. E1M3-E1M5 are also perfectly shotgunstartable. Second, E1M2 changes geometry a bit in between difficulty levels: there is a different number of nail-shooting things in that trap corridor. Moreover, third, E1M3 on normal has shambler at the end of the level as the big reveal. However, on hard it like throws two shamblers onto you immediately (provided you take upper route - which is the incorrect one although you have no way of knowing that beforehand on a blind play), which completely spoils the buildup and the reveal. Which hints upon you being meant to already know shamblers are a thing in this game - which you can't on your first play, provided you didn't dabble in other episodes first. Meaning, the level was likely MEANT to be replayed, first easy, then normal, then hard - with differences, progressively introduced, being meant to MAKE some sort of SENSE in the process. So, what if that concerns every other TW-level? Being shotgunstartable, meant to be first played on easy, then normal, then hard, keeping on a lookout for added stuff? Purely as a working hypothesis, that is? I am really interested in sort of knowing what this is all about, especially since E1M2 and, much moreover E1M3 play such an important role in establishing the overall look and feel(cont)

>>5911036
(cont-d) for Quake, E1M3 being not only the level where Shits Suddenly Gets Real, but one the most iconic levels in the game.

So anyway, I was just summing up my thoughts on the matter of trying to determine the best angle of attack on this. I guess, there is no moral or message there, as of yet, but I am really genuinely excited, as of now, I have at least some form of a working hypothesis (stated above) as to how to approach all this stuff.

Over and out.

>>5911026
lol no

>>5911053
What's wrong with it?

>>5911059
It's still unfinished and the publisher/dev has pulled the plug

>>5911023
I think E1M4 being quite vertical and having lots of swimming could rather be another spin on Romero? Like, when you say "water" in Quake's context, I immediately recall cage trap from E2M5, that sort of sense. Anyway, I'll see further along the way, I guess?

Also, I'll try playing mainly beta3 versions of levels discussed.

>>5911059
Developmental rights for Blood had to be given back to Atari.
Kaiser confirmed he's not working on updates anymore.
This leaves Fresh Supply with a whole bunch of bugs and inconsistencies nBlood and GDX do not have, and it's not gonna be fixed.

>>5910254
the models are truly great. probably the best thing about QC is the appearance, which is sad.

lmao do you retards really believe half life copied fade to black and goldeneye?

>>5907054

>Favorite Episode?
4
>Favorite Level?
Door to Cthon
>Favorite Enemy?
Ogres
>Favorite Weapon?
Grenade Launcher

>>5910346

>What I would change about Quake
I would add more bosses, an extra mini boss to occasionally replace the shambler, I would make the shotguns do double the damage, and I would make the vores missles travel way slower. I would also make the axe do literally 4 times the damage it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGaRsvq_VtM

>>5911119
That's cool.
I've never played REKKR wad. Is it good?

>>5911104
There was no time to copy Goldeneye in any significant capacity, only superficial stuff. For Fade to Black there was plenty of time.

What interests me much more is what Prospero put a spin upon. I doubt we'll ever know though.

>>5911143
ok schizo

Every fps is just a watered down feature and skill wise quake.
Blood, Duke, Unreal, Half life, Doom all garbage compared to Quake.

>>5911174
Every FPS is garbage compared to Hovertank 3D

>>5910843
>midnight
dude's a fucking poser

>>5907657
Guns are not complex, they are as you say platforms. But the cartridges themselves are and have all tech.

That is why you develop the gun only after getting the cartridge.

>>5910816
it feels like the new chaingun might as well replaced the plasma gun since it's faster, stronger and the wind up after firing it is almost an unintentional callback to the original plasma gun recoil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZih0TnGbU0

>>5911247
That was amazing, I didn't even know Turok 1 had a modding community

>>5911260
The remake for 1 came with a map maker.

Hi frens, I posted a demo for my upcoming project a few days ago, forgot to post it here sooner. Check it out if you want.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109137-night-time-terror-6-map-demo-final-update-hopefully/

>>5911104
One guy here believes this, and we generally regard him as the village idiot.

>>5911207
I mean, some guns can be complex, like Gatling cannons and stuff.