/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Current release, final unless bugs are spotted
-https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

=== NEWS ===

[9-16] A new build of Slayer's Testament released
https://knockout.chat/thread/95/30#post-119111

[9-11] SgtMark's first dev diary of VietDoom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRlb3WmRJo

[9-9] ZeroMaster completed MAP07 of Plutonia on UV Pacifist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnFyHjgJgk

[9-5] Could You Would You in a Box released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh5xig7vrvobnqh/Could%20You%20Would%20You%20In%20A%20Box.zip?dl=1

[9-3] Doom4 Vanilla updated to 1.1, MS-DOS version released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-new-v11-ms-dos-edition/

[9-1] Colorful Hell update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1117225#p1117225

[9-1] Doom 4 Vanilla released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-dehacked-project/

[9-1] OTEX, a resource of textures and flats released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-%E2%80%93-update-version-10-released/

[9-1] Fraggle's 'Miniwad' released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108721-miniwadwad-a-minimalist-iwad

[8-29] Joe Rogan interviews John Carmack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlMSe5-zP8

[8-27] Anon releases his unfinished project, free for cannibalizing
https://gofile.io/?c=7iv0Zp

[8-26] Ion Fury devs claim upcoming patch is not censoring content
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1616150570017627014

[8-25] Final Doomer 3.1 releases with Hellbound, Alien Vendetta, and Whitemare-themed weapon sets
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

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This runs like ass

>>5899998
Looks like something from either Oblivion or Skyrim.

Post caco

>>5900010
Is that Switch port of Duke Nukem 3D based on Eduke32, xDuke, or is it made from scratch from the ground up?

>>5900017

>>5900010
I saw this was released for Vita too but haven't tried it yet. If it runs bad on switch I'd say it would on Vita too :(

How big is your guys wad folder? I am thinking of deleting some because my folder is around 7-8 gb.

>>5900017

>>5900017

>>5900017

I love the fact that Lt. Typhon mod started somewhat seriously then it became more silly and over the top.
Which is a good thing, I love it.

>>5900017
Caco Pedo

>>5900017

>>5900024
Vita has different CPU than Switch

>>5900020
pretty sure it's not even a duke engine but samsara on back to saturn x

>>5900005
Sigil 1.2 is apparently out

is it me or can you see a part of his back through his mouth?
doesn't he have the rest of his neck?

I will pay a 100$ for someone to port me Oregon Trail in doom.

>>5900092
I guess you can do some kind of themed remix of Oregon Trail.
Organ Trail was pretty good, put a goofy zombie spin on the original concept, but with more depth of gameplay.

>>5900095
This is exactly what I want, encounters would require you to shoot stuff. Thing is, I code like a toilet. I have a vague Idea how to it, but I know i will be lost once I start coding supply management.

>>5900020
that's samsara

>>5900182
>2019
>people still don't have a program that handles transparency

>>5900187
transparency is complicated :/

Replayed Sigil with recent updates and the two levels Romero made in 2016.

I'm sorry guys, but Romero is still better than (((You))) and your shitty, overrated wads with boring layouts, repititive combats, zero progressions but muh revenants, muh chaingunners, muh magenta colours, muh Unreal type buildings.

Learn to map friends.

>>5900235
ok john

Blow it out your ass!

>>5900092
Why do you want Doomguy to get dysentery?

Should I use Ugly as sin for Hideous?

>>5900260
You should probably try various things and make your own choices.

>>5900235
show me on the doomguy doll where ancient aliens hurt you

>>5900276
Damn. Those alien bastards are gonna pay for touching my spaghet!

Finished Whispers of Satan.
Was good.

>>5900020
eDuke32 on Switch actually runs ok
This is GZDoom, even at 640x400 it runs like that and I wasn't even looking at a crowded or complex scene
The lowest I've seen it go is 25fps

>>5898752
Sorry for the absence. I've just super duper busy the last couple of months. Will pick all the projects up as soon as I have enough spare time!

>>5900313
With vulkan?

You see this fucker?

Imagine Doomguy, but if his life sucked way more than it already did.

>>5900364
Fuck off, marathon sucks

Finished this area today

>>5900027
Is there really a point to hoarding wads when you can download anything you wanna play from /idgames in a matter of seconds?

>>5900407
If your internet goes down you can still play the game.

>>5900407
Nothing bad about having a collection. 10 gigs really isn't much these days.

>>5900383
Nah.

>try to shotgun start quake
>e1 is pretty normal, e2 gets is too but m5 is a bit fucky
>get to m6
holy fucking shit, has anyone ever managed to beat it? I just cant

>>5900383
Pleb

>>5900364
He was surprisingly interesting despite the fact he didn't say a word.
I wish Bungie just drops Destiny one day and focuses on making a Marathon 4.
Marathon lore was so much better than the Destiny one.
Seriously the way the latter is structured and presented is a mess

>>5900436
How was he interesting to you? Personally, I just felt incredibly bad for him.

>>5900318
Yeah, it's almost the same performance regardless
The base games run well though, over 60fps most of the time, but everything else you want to play slows it down

>>5900071
Say what? What changes?

VietDoom looks fucking amazing.

BTW, was there supposed to be any additional... additions to Brutal Doom v21? I read something on here about a "campaign version".

>>5900438
I meant the lore. It made me feel bad for him. They did more than the usual, soldier in a bad situation go forth and kills the baddies.

I've played the N64 mod for Duke Nukem 3D. And I was pleasantly surprised on how good the new weapon sprites look. Some of them I prefer them over the originals.

Some of the changes are interesting too.
The Lo Wang graffiti is cool in E1M1 and then you had those censored parts which kinda suck.
Plus no music, which is a sin.
I also prefer the final battle against the Cycloid Emperor. It actually looks like a Stadium and he is in 3D because.... I don't know.

So, how far along is the Heretic project atm?

>>5900442
Looks fine. More polish and less feature creep and will be good.

>>5900449
can't speak for anyone else, but I've got something around half a map done
the idea is to have a release candidate out by october 31

>>5900443
Wait, how did it make you feel bad for him? I just want to check if you feel the same way I do

>>5900448
That picture made me laugh more than it had any right to.

>>5900407
what do you do, delete them the second you're done playing?

>>5900537
Nah, I just meant that if you have so many wads it's taking significant space on your HD I don't see a point keeping them.

>>5900552
>8gb
>significant
it hasnt been 2008 for 11 years anon

Windy weather ahead

https://pastebin.com/JTXfxZ8v
To this day i still don't know where
>Revenant's beeping noise for his missiles
>Summoner's alert scream
>Beholder's sounds
Really come from in MetaDoom.

>>5900197
even paint.net has transparency and it takes two seconds to do

>>5900575

>>5899998
>still no seeds for the torrent
Grumble

>>5900596
are you one of those retards that only downloads through torrents because you think it's safer than direct downloads for whatever reason?

there are multiple megalinks, dude; pick one.
what do you even fucking need.

Is E2M2 the greatest stock map ever made?
Awesome and creepy song.
No zombies.
Berserk powerup and Lost Soul debut.
Comfy box maze.
Unsettling clash of tech base and hellish theme.
Non linear progression.

>>5900396
what mod and wad

>>5900575
Revenant's rocket sounds were from Doom 3

>>5900643
It's the crusher debut too.

>>5900626
To put it on my seedbox so I can get it easily whenever I want when I travel.

>>5900436
I know its supposed to be an ass on the right, but this is what I always imagine first when this image gets posted.

Holy shit AMC TC is fucking nuts. Why didn't I try this sooner?
A fucking gunman chronicles ship.

What tone shift from ion fury.

>>5900694
and besides being a lazy piece of shit what is preventing you from downloading everything listed in the torrent individually and putting it onto the data storage device of your choice?

>>5900643
There aren't any Lost Souls in E1? I feel like a retard for never noticing that before.

>>5900717
Because I travel light and it's piss easy to access my FTP server wherever I go.

How about the Heretic project be called HUMP?

>>5900731
Afraid that's been done already.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Heretic_Upstart_Mapping_Project

>>5900731
how about HAMPlanet (Heretic Anonymous Mapping... Planet)

>>5899998
Why does it look like an ingame render and not a post-production render for movies? It legit looks like it's from the engine Quake Champions runs on.

>>5900569
thicc

>>5900283
Heh, a classic.

>>5900080
engines just render the face normals to increase performance unless you apply a 2-sided material on it

>>5900707
It’s pretty good.

>>5900441
https://pastebin.com/NBmJwPty

>>5900856
I heard he's blocking skips that ZMaster used in his speedruns. lol.

>>5900017

>>5900071
>>5900856
Looks like Sigil isn't as unforgiving when it comes to weapons/ammo anymore.

>>5900643
It's definitely my favorite Doom 1 map.

Oh my god. What the fuck was wrong with Xatrix. Kingpin is just retarded. They made the combat so ridiculously difficult & unfair that you're forced into playing stealth... in a game with zero stealth mechanics. Guy you're supposed to sneak past is unalerted and walking in the opposite direction, instantly turns 180 and kills me with a shotgun. This piece of shit makes Redneck Rampage look well-designed in comparison.

>>5900010
Does it play like bubblegum?

>>5900092
>>5900095
>>5900259

Making System Shock Doors, How to do it?

>>5900856
Wow, Romero added a chaingun and islands below the cyberdemons in e5m5.
He listened to this guy:
https://youtu.be/zMrC3aWhMOE

>>5900187
That's not the kind of poster who would put effort into anything, I'd imagine.

>>5900924
How does Rages 2 Riches affect the game? Does it work with the widescreen patch?

Do we have an upload for SIGIL 1.2, or is it even needed? Will it work with the music and everything that's already out there?

>>5900039
hey that's the artist whomst draws huge titties

>>5900005
The Way Of Ira for Blood is out.

There are 110 enemies in the first fucking level of this thing. I can't even imagine what the other levels are going to be like.

You also have to see the story of this for yourself. It's... uh...

>>5901064
It’s what?

>Brutal Doom on Purist mode
>Doom 2 in Doom 1
>HD Pack
Nothing quite like grabbing a berserk pack and kicking an imp across the room into one of his friends while dodging chain gun fire all in high definition

>>5899998
>>5900080
>nu-archivile smile

>>5901173
That's an arch-vile?

Do you say "arCH vile" or "ark vile"
I know it's probably the former but I say the latter

>>5901175
Imp

>>5901196
The latter is correct

>>5901209
Well I'll be

>>5901209
I say it arCH

Idea for a Cyberdemon attack: he stomps the floor and it forms shockwaves that can stun the player if he doesn't avoid it

Idea for a Cyberdemon attack: he pisses

>>5901253
> stun
just cut the middle man and make it do rocket damage

Has the NRFTL guy updated his map to non-BD compatible?

>>5900643
No, E4M6 beats it.

>>5900643
That isn't Industrial Zone

>>5900643
It's not bad but I like zombies. And there's not enough heigh variation so it feels kinda flat.
Needs more windows, too. Windows are cool.

>>5900643
Its one of the better Tom Hall maps. But I personally don't like most of Tom Halls maps.

>>5899998
Do you guys ever have dreams of playing doom maps that don't exist?

>>5901372
Yes. Sometimes this is inspiring, other times this is the opposite of inspiring.

>>5901365
Huh, can't say I agree, Tom's misaimed drive for realism turned on its head by Sandy's wacky abstract kinds of hells I think is a really good combination and contrast, like a chocolate bar with salty nachos in it.

>>5901372
Once. Just some startan amalgamation. Nothing special. Nowhere near lucid so I don't remember much.

>>5900703
Doomguy! Your aspect ratio...

>>5900880
Just to make things work better for nightmare and pistol start players.

>>5901262
With what?

>>5900596
Torrent was removed from OP for just that reason.

>>5901542
With a pinus

>>5901563
Sounds like you'll be doing some sprite work today then.

The BFG feels kinda weak compared to The Redeemer from Unreal Tournament and The Nuke from Turok 2.
It's still cool and all but the others feel much more satisfying

>>5901590
Still a lot of oompf for 40 cells. Tactical stuff. Better than the regular plasma spitter when you need to clean shit up quick.

>>5900726
Just get a cheapo 16GB flash drive you can put on your keychain or something. Even a 128GB one costs like 20 dollars.

>>5901603
Just copy to a HDD before playing to keep things speedy. Good to go.

>>5900880
At least Map07 will be even harder now that it has a Cyberdemon.

Hey, I'm trying to find an old wad (possibly jokewad?) I used to play a shitton back in the day, like 2010-2016. The first map started off as a generic techbase that ends with a subway station, and the second map was this weird brown box kind of level that, when you reached the switch to the exit, just had several baron of hells in a straight line.

Does anyone remember it? I might be able to recreate the second level somewhat within doom builder or something.

Looks like sigil 1.2 broke e1m8. Rip full five episode playthrough.

>>5901727
Good thing Romero's name is first on the credits list. Now we get to blame him.

Sup, guys? I've got a nice idea for those, who prefer playing vanilla at 320x200/35fps on CRT monitor. I guess most of you use the mode 640x400_70Hz, because relatively modern monitors and GPUs do not support lower. Looks good, but not perfect yet, as the scanlines are duplicated. There's an even better way. In DOSBox config set the scaler scan2x instead of normal2x. Now you've got only a single visible scanline per source image row at odd positions and a black one at even positions. Now turn one of the focus adjusters on the line output transformer until you get a nice thick fucking ray so that non-black scanlines occupy most of the area on the screen and play some fucking DooM the way it is meant to played!

>>5901727
But does it break E1M8b?

>>5901727
more like all boss death triggers

>>5899998
I tried using V5 of Ketchup Doom with GZDOOM 3.5.0 and pic related happened.

>>5901782
Use Bolognese

>>5901783
Hmm... maybe or I could switch to droplets!

>>5901782
Do you have to use 3.5.0 specifically?

>>5901782
Alt+PrintScreen will copy just the active window to your clipboard.

>>5901727
Thats because the dehacked disables boss triggers, so that the final level doesnt end prematurely after the spiderdemon dies.

>>5901805
Accidentally ran into the exit the first time I played that piece of shit map

>>5901805
That explains why Sigil ended for me when I killed the Spiderdemon.

>>5901805
Well that's a shame. Being able to do a full five episode run with 1.1 was really nice. Is there no better way of doing it especially in the non-compat version?
This is going to cause issues for crispy doom since it autoloads sigil as the fifth episode if it finds the wad.

>>5900235
>muh Unreal type buildings
these autistic rants are getting ever more incoherent

>>5900643
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/April_Agitation

>>5900235
How do I map a friend? I've already lost one when I pancaked him with a steam roller to make a map of him, and I don't think that's the proper way. Is there any tutorial on how to learn to map friends?

>>5901386
What's up with this Tom Hall realism myth? His maps are Wolf 3D tier mess, and his game, ROTT ended up being a horse shit.

>>5901883
>>5901386
>>5901365
TOM IS THE KING

>>5901727
>>5901805
>>5901826
Apparently only the compat version was supposed to have that. It was accidentally left to sigil.wad too.

>>5899998
Heretic but its remade as an Oblivion mod.
Blake Stone but its remade as a Quake mod. Duke Nukem forever but its remade into a Duke3D Build Engine mod.

The ultimate redpill is realizing Knee Deep in the Dead is the only episode worth playing in Ultimate Doom.

>>5901558
It's still in OP, idiot.

>>5902023
>Duke Nukem forever but its remade into a Duke3D Build Engine mod

Was already done and its easily better than DNF

>>5902041
God, that mod is awesome.
As long you keep Duke3D gameplay will always be better.
Come to think of it, I don't recall anything from DNF being better than Duke3D.

>>5902097
Still have to try it seems awesome.

This cover still makes me laugh to this day

>>5902097
name of the mod?

>>5900569
Would have preferred Hdoom to have models like these instead of monster demon girls.

With more clear pixels, doom would actually be the best h game ever wtf.

>>5901782
Use ketchup V4

I still think Bruce Willis would have made a great Doomguy. Still could honestly

>>5902143
Duke Nukem Forever 2013 mod + DLC Pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXeJP6G38KQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq1CuMn1AYQ

>>5902143
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-forever

>>5902157
Funny you're saying this because Doomguy on the PSX Cover reminds me of John McClane

>>5902161
>>5902163
Holy shit, hahaha
thx guys

>>5902167
Thats the reason I chose Bruce, although I was going by the comic

>>5902161
If DNF had released as planned in late 2001 then people would remember it fondly now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhYQq7LYrhg

Of course the timeline shift occurred in 2001, changing everything.

I miss when my uncle had the Barney and Beavis and Butthead mods on his doom. A lot of laughs for a while.

>>5902176
Definitely. If it was Duke3D but with 3D graphics and more options it would have been considered one of the best.
They should've released it at the time Halo/Serious Sam/Metroid Prime and Return to Castle Wolfenstein came out just to compete with them.

Nightmare Underworld (E5M7 Sigil) is the best map ever made.

>>5902176
Even if it was jank like SIN, it would still have been a great game if made back then.

I want some low poly tits damn it.

>>5902202

I'm replaying Doom 16 and trying to finish it this time and is it just me being crazy or did the last patch seriously ramp up the difficulty? There's no way it was so hard before, I have a Nightmare save pretty deep into the campaign and I played that with my PS3 controller (!) back then.
Now with the v666 patch with kb+m controls, I have serious trouble in the earlier level on UV??

>>5902229
>low poly tits
I'll take them over the uncanny models from Forever.
I know they supposed to turn you on but damn those faces are creepy

>>5902267
>I know they supposed to turn you on

Are they really? They are fucking gross. Almost postal level.

>>5902272
At least Postal 2 fits with the wacky and disgusting tone it has.
The girls in DNF look greasy as hell and reach the uncanny valley.

>>5902229
Fuck you, SiN was great. Good LAN mode too.

>>5902454
>NuWang

>>5902454
Why isn't Caleb drinking blood

>>5901372
i dreamed of a few including a map 29 spiritual successor that ends with a cyberdemon being fucked to death by a futa carmelita fox with 2 dicks

>>5902454
>nu-wang doing the soi face
I just finished SW2013 the other day and it's actually quite good though. Not really similar to the original beyond the name & theme, but quite fun. Lots of crazy sword & sorcery action. Only big issue is that the last hour or so really drags on.
>>5901372
Last night I dreamt of playing a Hexen wad with some weird custom weapons set in a spiral castle.

If everything goes well we should see HUH on Quaddicted in a couple of days, I already submitted it for release. I honestly forgot

I'm a tad busy with life stuff but I still check the project gmail from time to time just in case.

>>5902305
Id dint say it was bad just janky, feels heavy to play.
But I really loved its comic book levity and sexy bitch antagonist.
Alien World Order is quite fun, fuck after all these years, Duke is still the most fun to play alongside Blood.

This render is quite nice in world tour, wish you could use it for blood.
Makes classic duke levels even more comfy with the lighting.

>>5901372
I dreamt of playing some games but its all fuzzy dreams like mapping thief.


There is only one game I remember vividly dreaming multiple times and it's Homeworld, I guess Homeworld struck me in a right time in my brain, and despite being one of my favorites games its not like I am mad about it. Strange but its never about homeworld ships or story itself, its always about the feeling of being alone in space surrounded by vast emptiness and stars, the ships are always strange polygon creations of my brain to the point I drawed them roughly just to invoke the dream. And I had a very peculiar feeling of my brain realizing something important but forgetting. How daunting they felt.

As with dreams its always a fools errand to try to explain to others how it felt.

Can anyone comment on the World Tour edition of Duke Nukem 3D? Trying to get my nephew into shooters and all they have at that house is a PS4. I know the Megaton edition is the GOAT but it's not an option for him. Are the re-recorded lines optional? I want him to have as authentic an experience as possible.

>>5901372
One time I dreamed a H.R Giger styled map.
It was very confusing. The walls were constantly moving like it was alive.
The enemies were also weird given how low poly they were but not even regular Doom enemies and kinda blend with the enviroment.

Overall it was like 10 seconds but it was trip.

>>5902581
Get him the Atomic Edition first.
http://dk.toastednet.org/FPS_Legends/dn3d.html

World Tour is good but the audio is a mess.
Some sounds are compressed and the new lines are kinda crappy.
The new episode is cool but the final boss is just bad,

>>5902581
I think its fine, as I said in the post above the render is really nice.
The sound does not bother me that much.

>>5902590
I would just give him the GOG version of Megaton I have backed up, but they don't have a PC in the house. That's why I asked about Megaton. Regarding sound issues, I read they were patched, no? All I'm really concerned about is whether or not the first four episodes are faithful to the original. Don't really care about the new content yet.

Would you fuck an Iron Maiden ?

is there a way to convert quake demo files to whatever you can upload to youtube? I'm trying to shotgun start the extended version of e2m6 and I almost always manage to clear the first room,
this is the extended version I'm talking about
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/e2m10.html

>>5902598
yes

>>5902597
They're faithful but Megaton is still the best.
World Tour doesn't have the expansions.

>>5902024
>"Sonic Was Never Good": Doom Edition
Is this what happens when the r/Doom secondaries play the games?

>>5902602
you need a source port which can output a movie file when you are replaying demo file
alternative is to use screen recorder software like OBS

>>5902024
Sure thing,fella.

>>5902604
Yeah, not having the packs is disappointing but I knew about that. Do you know if the re-recorded voice is optional?

>>5902610
From what I remember(didn't play it for a while),you can't.

>>5902610
Yeah there is a legacy duke voice option.

I understand the hate boner people have for it but fuck I really really like the lighting job they did.
Its around stuff you would expect light to bathe.

>>5902606
I guess qspasm should do it, also this map is a fucking pain in the ass, you gotta maximize your resources and always try to make infighting
I wonder if e3 and e4 are worse

>>5902617
For example you can see it here.

I really fucking wish blood got that treatment.

>>5901883
Because for Doom, Tom had been told to go study military bases and shit to use as inspiration for maps, only it turned out real life military bases are very boring, boxy, and unexciting, not much better than Wolfenstein 3D.
All of Tom's maps were either scrapped or shelved, and he was later fired.
Sandy would use a few of his old maps and retool them.

For Rise Of The Triad (which rules, go fuck yourself, I hope your mom dies in her sleep tonight), he evidently decided realism had been the wrong way to go for these kinds of game, and instead made the game as exaggerated and arcade-like as he could, the latter in contrast to how Wolfenstein 3D had only some remnant arcade elements, and Doom ditching them almost completely during development.

>>5899998
Pick your poison: janky, disappointing game sequel edition.

>>5902617
Cool. How's the audio? I read on the Steam forum they fixed it in a patch but I can't find it mentioned in official notes.

>>5902640
I think I hate sequels

I have an idea for a medium-small map. Starts out as a dark tech base. You activate the generator/medium lights and every [certain texture] turns more hellish. You end up doing something else and textures turn fireblu and thing get really crazy. Not slaughter but enough of a challenge to make you go OH SHIT!

>>5902681
Sounds cool.

>>5900670
In what version of Doom 3 did they beeped?
Because i won't be surprised if it was something out of Trent Raznor like the Commando lines.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109143-new-doom-eternal-stream/
doom eternal stream tomorrow from french bethesda
hopefully, we get a new location this time and not the same mars core demo

>>5902620
World Tour sucks, Randy Bobandy Bitchford can go lick a toilet bowl.

>>5902695
It will probably just be the E3 demo again. I can't imagine them making an exclusive reveal for the French.

>>5899998
BRING BACK MEGATON EDITION!

>>5902490
The 2013 game is real fun.
Also I like that incarnation of Lo Wang.

I just remembered someone made this edit to show the problem with 2016's color palette but at the same time, it doesn't feel that representative of what Hell looked like in Doom originally except for maybe E3M2
Like, there's colors and then there's the actual textures and decoration
Everyone knows Hell is a major aspect of the series but it's treated like Doom never had its own intrepertation of Hell besides just the demons that live in it

>>5900436
>>5900443
Well, why doe one feel bad for this goober, anyways?

>>5902718
Then you have the sequel and you wonder what the hell happened.

>>5902705
Megaton wasn't actually that great, beyond offering the Sunstorm expansions.

>>5900017
IMP STUCK
IMP STUCK
PLEASE
I BEG YOU

>>5902747
Better than World Tour.

>>5902719
>old hell: hr giger and hp lovecraft fuck up hell in front of satan and he gets scared but also aroused, somehow
>new hell: beksinski is allowed to fuck up hell too but he wasn't given enough time, so the whole thing felt unfinished

>>5902747
At least it didn't run like shit.

>>5902747
Fuck off Bitchfork.

>>5902819
It's glitchy as fuck, dude, this isn't me saying to buy World Tour, rather, you should pirate it.

oh fugg
https://rarbggo.org/torrent/hcs4yd1

>>5902741
Trying to turn it into fucking borderlands (except even worse due to the randomized levels) is what happened. It's such a shame, I still enjoyed the shooting and swords were better than ever, the levels looked great and the gore system was satisfying as fuck, then they decided players would rather be comparing stats on weapon augments for hours and running around infinite maps getting swarmed by repetitive enemies.

>>5901372
I dreamt about playing Doom Eternal a few nights after I saw that first bit of gameplay footage they showed off. The floors and walls of some areas were covered in a purple-pink tentacle substance and otherwise just stone floor. I had a supershotgun and I was running from a cyberdemon because I was really low on health. It got surprisingly scary.

>>5902802
>>5902719
Even weirder is if they only bring back some aspects of old Hell because it "fits" the new, kind of streamlined version but then they use this stone portrait of a design that isn't really used
Would be funnier if they used the Archvile one, as a contrast to the Eternal design lacking the tubes
Unless they go the "Tyrant" route of naming the OG Baron something else

>>5902026
Show me where

>>5902947
>Archvile one
I just call that one Bane

>>5902951
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM/view

>Doom.Annihilation.2019.1080p.BluRay.x264-ROVERS
it's time

>>5902981
is anyone going to make a quick rundown on how bad it is?

>>5902981
Someone should stream it.

>>5902986
I'd watch it.

Did they patch the audio in World Tour?

That's incredible how awesome Duke Nukem Alien Armageddon is.
Sure it kinda breaks the balance of the original maps.
But there's such a high level of polish and love put into it.
The new maps are great,maybe too big and drag too much at times.

But overall I love this mod.

>>5902981
>Anni
also rarbg
my body is ready...
tomorrow

>>5902643
>>5902997
Interested in this too.

>>5900005
SIGIL looks to be up to version 1.21 now.

>>5902969
>nobody cared who I was until I appeared in the sequel

>>5902969
I always remember the first time I saw the archvile on Doom 2, my brain almost exploded when I saw him resurrecting shit. One of the best gaming moments of my life.

>>5899998
Duke Nukem 3D but you can dual wield pistols and pipe bombs.

Sigil finally has some original textures.

>>5903097
He really is an excellent addition to the bestiary.

This was suggested a while ago but the idea of a doom mapping project where everyone has a 1000x1000 cube to work in to form a "collage" of sorts would be great. I think themes would have to be set for each level or else everything would just be a crazy mishmash of rooms (though one pure chaos level with no theme would be fun). Perhaps they could be based off each doom 2 level they replace. First level is entryway/techbase themed, 7th level has to be dead simple related, etc. To keep the project moving everyone would start on a different level and rotate through them once their section for that level was completed.

>>5903124
So like a 1024x1024 mapping project only it's on one map and the squares are like quilted together?
I admit that could be pretty interesting.

>>5903120
That's metal as fuck

>>5903132
Similar to that, but everyone has a square to map in for each level. 500x500 might be a bit easier to manage though if it's going to be for all levels. Also you don't have to keep your square on the grid just as long as your portion is no bigger than the required size and is connected to an existing section.

I can beat Doom and even Ultimate Doom. Doom II. Both Final Dooms. Went through Romero's two "replacement" Doom levels with not much difficulty even though they were challenging in places.
But Sigil is bullshit. Unfair bullshit design created to be artificially hard and full of goddamn shit. And Romero knows it. He knows he created a masochistic pile of shit beyond any fair and sane design where at all times you can be aware and maneuver around danger with skill and map awareness. Sigil is designed to destroy all of that and make the game just infuriatingly stupidly unfair, much like other level "designers" who create a lot of these fucking stupid megaWADs you see every goddamn where.
I've played fucking Doom since the goddamn Doom shareware back in the early 90s and fuck this. It's garbage, Romero, and you fucking know it, you goddamn hack.

>>5903147
GIT GUD

Do wads with jumping in mind even exist?

>>5903149
Oh look, the same pathetic war cry of the child with no actual communication skills. I wonder how the fuck you kids actually go to /vr/ if you're still a child mentally.

>>5903151
Holy fuck, I hope not. Doomguy doesn't jump, he just lets his momentum carry him wherever it needs to.

>>5903164
Why don't you suck it up, and git gud? Are you that much of a baby that you have to complain about the difficulty of a FPS?

>>5902454
>e2m2 in the background
Is that iconic.

>>5903169
How abotu Heretic and Hexen WADs?

>>5903171
Let me know when you can actually read what I wrote, child. Oh, right, you haven't grown up yet and you can only read every few words and you just make up the rest.

>>5903147
Please explain to the class what "artificial difficulty" is and what qualities differentiates it from "real difficulty".

>>5903147
Did you start on UV to begin with? This is not a mapset meant to be played on UV to start with. Swallow your pride, learn the map, then come back with more experience.

>>5900005
Gameplay mod Supercharge released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109107-supercharge-gzdoom-resourcegameplay-mod/

>>5903164
>>5903189
go back to /reddit/

>>>/tv/121450251

>>5903189
Your original post is constantly pointing out "artificial difficulty" and "unfairness", common phrases and buzzwords to complain about the difficulty of a video game without providing valid reasoning to why the game is difficult. What do you even mean by the term "artificial difficulty"? I understand that there are games that feature trial-and-error situations where you are punished unfairly by an event you could not react to in time, but Sigil does not feature any actual unfair moments whatsoever. You are clearly bad at the game, and you need to git gud.

When is Decino going to do another run through the iwads, but this time with multiplayer monsters enabled?

>>5903143
>500x500
That's really tiny as shit, my man.
Like, 1024x1024 projects exist, and that's maps where the playable space must be constrained to those kinds of dimensions, those maps are small, that's less than half the size of Dead Simple, a 512x512 space would be pretty difficult for most people to do something interesting with.

>>5901167
got a link for this "Doom 2 in Doom 1"?

>>5903247
Gotcha, the more space the better.

>>5903261
I think we could make do with 1024x1024 each.

>>5903279
1024x1024 will be fine, especially if we get 32 people or more. That's 32 sections per level which will make each one decently sized. Now the next goal would be choosing the theme for each level. Like said earlier you don't want each level to be made up of completely random sections. Would a sewer theme be good for map02?

Has anyone seen the new movie yet?

>>5903254
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7ar84ct8yd8cjtv/Doom_II_In_Doom.zip/file
Basically it makes it so any zombie has the chance to be a chaingunner, any icaco a panin elemental, etc etc. Also any shotgun has a chance of being a SSG

>>5903290
I think that could work.
I think we wouldn't strictly need to get 32 people either (we're lucky if we get half of that), or that each space would strictly have to be or fit in a 1024x1024 square, perhaps it could be a long 512x1536 hallway.
I think also in the interest of not making things too linear, we might allow multiple exits on some rooms, for detours and what not.

Are we doing Boom format, and are we allowed to add some minor out of bounds stuff for detail and for teleporting in monsters? A typical rule for a normal 1024x1024 project is that the map can be just about anything, as long as the only space the player can move on adds up to 1024x1024 map units.
Now, given that this will be a massive quilting process, we can't have people go TOO nuts with auxiliary additions like that (because we might get in the way of each other otherwise), but I think it would be ok for people to do some.

>>5903307
Boom formatting would be fine
Unlimited space for out of bounds stuff like monster teleporters, but obviously don't go crazy with this
I like the idea of each player section being having the same area of a 1024x1024 square so that would be fine
Keep it simple and only allow up to 4 "entrances/exits" to a sector. A Sector can be a dead end but only if there are other sectors with open exits. More sectors can always be added on in case we forget some openings.

>>5903303
based, thanks

>>5903329
In the worst case, if an exit to a room is left unused, we could ask if the original author is around to wall it off, optionally the project lead does it as smoothly as they can.

>>5903005
I was playing this earlier, it's pretty good and it's a shame that duke eternal, which I think is from some of the same modders, has godawful HRP 3d model shit as standard and if you turn it off it just breaks everything.
Also, I have a feeling the guys behind DNAA are extremely horny.

>>5903346
>HRP 3d model shit as standard

>>5903351
It's even worse, it literally doesn't function without it. It's a shame since the maps for it are pretty fun, it's kind of like one of those russian stalker mods where they throw literally every fucking possible thing in without caring if it works or not, except duke.
This is Duke Eternal i'm talking about though, not Alien Armageddon, that just has a few voxels.

Anyone know of any places to get Daikatana for free? Not sure if I want to spend 7 dollars for this damn thing, just want to try it out with the 1.3 patch.

>>5903358
Fuck, it's called duke eternity, the whole doom eternal thing has contaminated my brain.
To make up for it, here is a screenshot of this monstrosity.
As an added bonus that can't be conveyed by screenshots, for some reason it uses the fucking quake 2 soundtrack on the original maps.

>>5903346
The main artist also makes porno stuff.

>>5903385
link

>>5903391
No, Duke Nukem

>>5903370
i’m gonna puke

>>5903346
>those artifacts around the fleshlight

>>5902640
Blood 2. I fucking love that game in a way. You know how a mother loves a handicapped child even with his or her problems? It's kinda like that for me with Blood 2. I still love and respect the soul that went into making it even if it came out so awfully and I enjoy it for that reason. Same reason I fucking love Daikatana. You just don't see games like it anymore. Maybe with the resurgence of retro shooters we'll get something to properly live up to Blood 2's hype and style, and if we're so lucky, Shogo too.

We've got DUSK but that's about it as far as Blood style goes.

>>5903103
>>5903107
>>5903109
What combination of wads? Especially that dual super shotgun one.

>>5903370
This looks like it's on a weird half baked Quake 3. I fucking love it, not at all gonna lie.

>>5903147
Did you play 1.2? That made UV easier.

>>5903147
>much like other level "designers" who create a lot of these fucking stupid megaWADs you see every goddamn where.
Yeah, no.

Cs and half life suck>>5903305

>>5903425
It's kind of charming in its own way, i mean, you can eat that burger for instance, the mighty boot has fear-style inputs for different kicks, the new weapons are pretty fun, it has sidekick characters and the maps are good, there's even a bike.
But, it runs like shit and looks like shit, and I don't think there's a version without the 3D hrp shit.

>>5902747
For real though. The 'HD' or whatever texture filter they had for it looked like dogshit, and there was awful mouse acceleration which made it basically unplayable imo. The only reason it got a pass was the $10 price tag, it being the only commercial release of the 3 third party expansions since the intial retail, and using the original grp files so you could still use eDuke32.

World Tour, however, can suck my nuts.

OK how do I got about some Doom co-op
Can Zandro chooch with smooth doom or does it have to be beautiful doom?

Why is barely anybody hosting Sunlust or BTSX? No eviternity?

/vr/ approved co-op serbians?

>>5899998
LOL

>That one Doom wad where the demons don't' invade Phobos and its just Doomguy patrolling the base while the scientists do their work
II made it up but I still think it would be a neat wad

>>5903147
>>5903164
>I'm gonna start the game on the highest diffiuclty
>then I'm gonna complain about it being too difficult while calling others imature children

>>5903540
Doomguy was a Janitor on Phobos.

>>5903151
They do, but they're rare because mappers nowadays tend to lean towards vanilla and boom compatibility.

>>5903536
KEK

>>5903540
>doomguy stops by scientist bored out of his mind
>"Heeeeyyyy science dude, whatchya lookin at under that uhhhhh scope there?"
>"Uh, I'm studying this bacterial life form that was found resonating in some of the rocks on Phobos."
>"Oh! Cool, cool..........."
>looks off into the other side of the room
>"Psssshhhhhhhhh sooooooo..... That's a big fuckin' gun you got there, huh?"
>"Flynn, for the hundredth time, don't touch that."

what they mean by this?

>>5903147
>>5903164

>>5903552
Doomguy does it for free?

the fuck is this?

>>5903626
Thought it was a shoggoth or interdimensional shambler at first. Can't say I dislike it, I think that's an alright design.

>>5903626

>>5903634
she did it. good job.

>>5903147
>I can beat....Both Final Dooms
Sigil is easier than Plutonia, though.

>>5900860
I hope not. That would be quite the "no fun allowed" dick move.

>>5902003
Yeah, looks like the 1.21 hotfix they released fixed it

>>5902985
really, almost unwatchable

Do you ever think about the fact that Duke blew through all of Duke Nukem 2 just before 3D happened?
Those alien bastards.

Duke's a cool guy.

>>5903756
Did 3D ever get any 1 and 2 remake map packs, I wonder...

Found a ton of Duke shovelware.
https://archive.org/details/@tavern_bard?&sort=-publicdate&page=1

>>5900315
It's ok dude. Please just finish the minimap and the healthbars some time this decade. The PRBoom-style floating healthbars are much nicer than the HUD ones, and the proper minimap has been asked for and "NOPE"d by GZDoom dev for nearly as long as GZDoom existed.

>>5903421
1) Xim Star Wars + Dark Forces Textures + Brutal Doom monsters
2)Duke Nukem weapons and monsters (the SS is replaced with xenomorphs for some reason)
3) Enhanced Quake Stuff + Lor Res Dark Textures + Hard Doom monsters

>>5903536
>>5903558
>>5903568
holy shit this looks awful
like a low budget Babylon 5 episode

>>5903568
A case of "I'm not even gonna pirate this crap."

>>5903558
>>5903626
Why is doomguy a woman? And not even blonde?

>>5903626
Something with bad design

>>5902598
Might as well put a pillow on a lathe or something.

>>5903823
Imagine having such a fragile masculinity and/or heterosexuality that you HAVE to tell everyone that only men can kill demons.

The real problem here is that out of two female marines they showed they chose the least marine-looking one to be the protag.

>>5903872
>Imagine having such a fragile masculinity and/or heterosexuality that you HAVE to tell everyone that only men can kill demons.

did we read the same post?
>Why is doomguy a woman? And not even blonde?

>>5903878
Yes, we did. Why else would he complain about female doomguy? Especially since it's just a gal with a gun. Just like the other doom movie had a guy with a gun and not a doomguy.
Inb4 "but its in the name"

>>5903872
I literally mod doom so the PC is female though, lmao. Learn to read. I have my own reasons to make doomguy a girl in my modded game, I'm asking what's their reasoning for Doom movie.

>>5903872
you make a fair point, however you forgot to DILATE

>>5903881
It's just another shit movie. Doesn't matter who's in it.

>>5903881
The argument works both ways. Anyone could point out them making Doomguy a female is a utterly pointless character design choice, but that same point could be also employed to support the idea that Doomguy is a blank slate of a character and therefore wouldn't strictly call for a male to fill his role.

Thing is, anyone with half a brain could perfectly pick up on the fact that they're banking on the whole 'who needs Doomguy ECKSDEE' drama just to garner attention from outragefags. It's a last ditch publicity stunt for a movie nobody cares about.

>>5903536
"Dude, this Doom movie we're making should have Power Rangers-tier monsters. Yeah!"

>>5903536
What's with the framerate

>Doom Annihilation
>character is named Joan Dark
>Joan(na) Dark

>>5903364
Start on Shogun, godmode/healthcheat through episode 1, don't level up, don't ever use daikatana weapon, good shit starts in Greece, episode 2, play the game normally from that point onward.

>>5903419
Dude, psst, dude I know the perfect game for you, a meta-kusoge, so to speak. A game so horrendously broken it just loops back to being playable just to see what happens next. It is called

Descent to Undermountain. Yes, that dungeon crawling immersive sim-like RPG on an engine from a shooter game about flying robots.

It's like the greatest pile of "What ISN'T broken here gawd DAMN" ever created throughout the entire history of videogames.

Weirdest thing, there are glimpses of genuine goodness there too, it's not JUST a shitpile.

>>5903041
Ok, I can't find out what was fixed. Where's the changelog even published?

>>5903979
CHNGLG in the wad
https://pastebin.com/YJqSWATa

>>5903978
>A game so horrendously broken it just loops back to being playable again just to see what happens next.
In fact I suspect, that from a certain point in the development (where it became perfectly clear that with this engine the end result could only be a shitpile), what I wrote about actually became the core, intentional, concept behind the game. To hook the player through "Jeez, what else HAVEN'T I seen here just YET?", making the game just barely completeable - but otherwise, w-h-elllllllllllllll
In other words, I don't think this game's title is still, 22 years later, somewhat recognized purely through chance. I think, from a certain point on, it was DESIGNED to be extremely memorable in an highly infamous way.

Just making lemonade from those lemons.

>>5903986
Have to say, the changes in 1.2 and 1.21 have made this wad feel a lot more balanced on UV pistol-start, now. Not as easy to run out of ammo anymore, and the chaingun being added to the later maps removes a lot of the tedium.

>>5903939
Now I want a Perfect Dark wad. There's one of Goldeneye, it's not fair PD got nothing.

>>5903996
You sure about that?
https://www.turokforums.com/index.php?topic=602.0

>>5903986
>Change specifically to fuck over speedrunners
Hahaha

>>5904004
Holy fuck thank you

Are there any doom mods that add bot behavior to an enemy?
Also, are there any mods that makes bosses more complex?

>>5903978
That is EXACTLY the kind of fucking game I want man. I'll check it out. Thanks bro.

>>5903626
It's done by people who have no connection to the source material

How do I enable multiplayer monsters in single player? GZDoom, PrBoom, doesn't matter where. When my brainlet ass attempted it, I got loads of DM weapons plastered all around the levels, which obviously breaks all gameplay.

>>5901706
Any updates? If it helps, the wad had kind of an internet theme in the style of Deathzor Online.

>>5904051
Babel makes enemies much smarter, gives them ability to flee in fear or coordinate attacks, and so on.

>>5903351
>>5903346
I contributed to the "official" DN3D HRP over the course of several years. I am sorry. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but feels like it's all kinda pointless now.

>>5901706
>>5904078
That description with the barons reminded me of some terrywad with a prison rape sequence where you were running in a tight line between loads of barons and then a crusher killed them all. I can't remember what wad it was, but I think it was featured on some old like before 2015 old version of the "so you want to play some doom" picture. Maybe that helps.

>>5903812
Don't talk nonsense.

>>5904070
In PrBoom+, -solo-net command is needed.

>>5903568
they just repeated that fucking "easter egg" from the first movie

>>5903346
>Also, I have a feeling the guys behind DNAA are extremely horny.
Really? I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't think they totally used a cropped porn video animation of Felicia from DarkStalkers and put it in DNAA.
Btw is futa SFM porn and it's terrible(like 80% SFM porn),you didn't miss anything

>>5903790
Nice

>>5903540
>>5903552
So Doomguy is like Kurt Hectic from MDK,now? Cool

>>5903626
>>5903634
>making hell an even more generic rocky landscape than doom 4

>>5904138
I didn't mind hell in Doom 4 but It wasn't creepy or threatning,just forgettable. Save a couple of scenarios which looked pretty cool.

I still feel that Hell in Doom 3 and Doom 64 still looked much better. More atmospheric and hopeless.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Blood Cultists.
On one hand they can be hard as fuck to deal with when they are in groups.And pray they don't go in the water.

On the other hand they're also really fun to fight too. They're challenging but never bullshit hard. The way they scream and talk is hilarious.

I feel they're some of the most iconic enemies in a FPS game

>>5903132
>So like a 1024x1024 mapping project only it's on one map and the squares are like quilted together?

this has literally been done https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/excorpse

>>5901064
This is fucking intense

The only people still making maps for Blood are crazy fuckers who know it inside and out, so they're usually good, but tuned for madmen who've been playing it since it came out.

>>5900017
so fucking close you faggot

Bolognese dooms blood looks like absolute shit. Is there any other gore/effect mod out there?

>>5903872
>>5903881
if you cared about female protagonists, you should know there's a problem when one is really shitty and they don't even use kira morgan or crash but at the same them, they weren't ruined in this shitshow
doomguy is also a character in some degree, even if he looks unfinished

>>5904184
>>5901064

Twice now I've been able to bypass chunks of levels by jumping on enemy heads or crouch jumping through spaces to get to the exit. I'm using nBlood, so I can't tell if these are intended skips, engine bugs, or the mapper fucking up in these places.

>>5903672
I'm playing through Plutonia on UV right now (map 27), after playing UV Sigil.
While Plutonia has some unfair traps and heavily abuses chaingunners, archies and revenants it doesn't make me sweat nearly as much as Sigil did, due to weapon/ammo scarcity in 1.1

>>5904156
I agree. Like, I did like hell enough in 4, it was like a modern take on E3M2, which I like a lot, but I also would have liked much more than just rocky wastelands. Parts of it felt like 3's hell, with a lot of the old brickwork stuff, which was nice, but it could have had more variation in color.
Hell had more than one single aesthetic in the classic games.

>>5904179
Then we have a previous proof of concept to reference I guess.

>>5902598
Ofcourse.

>>5903552
oh yeah, that was a concept in the doom bible
>Dies At Conclusion Of The Episode = Dacote as his last name

>>5902643
>>5903026

Audio is fine at least for me.

>>5904216
I honestly didn't even find the ammo scarcity that bad in the older version of Sigil, personally. Only thing that was a bit much for me was having to resort to using pistol on enemies in the later levels due to the chaingun being absent, and being tripped up by the cyberdemon in map9. But I still found it far less challenging than Plutonia on average.

>>5902598
sauce?

>>5899998
I can't find a version of Duke Nukem 3D that has a GRP file. GAME.CON file yes, but not GRP file. I can run Duke3D on DOSBOX as well as eDuke32 well enough, but not BuildGDX.

>>5904174
I know, I love them too, first I was frustrated back in the day later I learned how to actually play and get some quick reactions and crouching jumping game.

Fun as fuck to shotgun them or stunlock.

I need a new thread!

A thread about rooty tooty point-n-shooty & merry fizzlebombs!

>>5904303
>below 400 posts

Bethesda France stream is on

>>5904370
No it isn't.

>>5903903
>they're banking on the whole 'who needs Doomguy ECKSDEE' drama just to garner attention from outragefags
They're not tho, it's a direct-to-dvd movie. You can't really hype up a dtd movie.

>>5904370
It's just another playthrough of the E3 demo.

>>5904238
Guy Dacote

>>5903790
I found some of my first DN3D maps (that I uploaded to different BBS) on shovelware CDs like that. These collections are time capsules.

>>5904416
Once upon a time in a forgotten millennia. Me too, anon.

>>5902620
>1996
Classic shareware port. Gun has glints off of it, showing levels of detail. Darkness in background add to grittiness, combined with a rug floor where it is easy to see each individual fabric. Walls are made of old rotting metal, showcasing a dystopia world.

>2013
Duke now is blurred to the point where you wonder if you have bad eyesight. The gun lost a lot of its detail and the lighting is now pretty flat. Metal looks far more bland and uninteresting.

>2016
Bloom everywhere! A broken skylight is now shining light for some reason, shining upon the shiny metal surface to add to the mess of images. Duke still looks the same, but the background has more HD textures, resulting in a sort of disconnect between the levels of detail the two provide.

1996 looks the best here anon. Software mode was better than the blurry shit that GL brought or the bloom lights in modern games.

>>5904370
they now deleted the twitter with the new enemy glory kill

>>5899998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwarhzl76D8
I really wanna see a Quake map based on the Eyewitness intro, because Quake really reminds me of old 90s cgi with the surreal buildings and looking out the window and just seeing sky

>>5904463
There is no bloom, just light sources now making more sense. Work really well in most levels and makes the level design in duke even better.

I like the work they did on it, dont give a fuck about meme randy.

>>5902617
desu the lighting in the OpenGL renderer is one of the better parts, and with no linear smear filter on.
Duke Nukem 3D's old low res sprites and textures look fucking phenomenal with normalmapping and dynamic lights, the latter is one of those features which would be really nice to have for GzDoom some day.

>>5904463
>Bloom everywhere!
There is no bloom.

>A broken skylight is now shining light for some reason,
That's a lamp.

>but the background has more HD textures, resulting in a sort of disconnect between the levels of detail the two provide.
Those aren't HD textures, those are the same textures as in the original.

>>5904483
Yeah that is what I mean, its not perfect but its the same thing they did for most of Ion Fury. Makes the build engine very fucking nice.

Works a bit like shit in some parts, but for most of it, its really cool some of the grey bland areas in the original game looks better. Its not like I understand people prefereing vanilla, I fucking paly Thief in the most vanilla way possible and fuck textures mods, but even in Thief redefining the lighting did some wonders in vanilla maps.

>>5904480
patrician taste

>>5904479
>Nu-Male Wojak

>>5904463
It's not a skylight and they're bathroom tiles not metal.

>>5904536
That’s a so(y)jack

>>5903790
>>5904416
>>5904426
I wondered if I was the only person who even enjoyed shovelware CDs. Feels like a lot of them have gone lost to history, trying to find almost anything on some of them is nigh impossible.

One big problem with pretty much everything not retro is the whole lack of shovelware CDs. A new Doom map comes out today, it likely won't be on a CD and thus will likely be lost to history. Sure, the more popular stuff will rise, but what about those of us who want to keep everything?

I look at modern games with a lot of mods. That brings me to checking out Skyrim and Minecraft. Note that both aren't even a decade old, but have enough to have a history. You go to Nexus to download a mod, only to realize it is incompatible with the most recent version. In an older game, that is no problem, just use the unpatched CD. But in a world with patches coming through Steam, now it is all force updated, which means now stuff breaks without a care. We have things to prolong patches, but nothing to revert to older versions. Can we even play the first, unpatched, version of Skyrim? At best there might be a torrent for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were dead due to most people just supporting the latest version of a game.

Minecraft is wonderful for having the ability to play past versions. Even for the ones not in the launcher, you can easily get the old .JARs and experience them. You can get plenty of mods, sure, and there is even a Minecraft archive project going on.

See, shovelware was a time capsule, it kept all it could. This archive project mostly is made up of links where it isn't archiving anything; I found more on my own through old Mediafire links. That isn't promising. Nor is the fact that most archived links are for more modern versions; 2010 stuff may have started then, but we are getting more modern versions from 2014 which require a shitload of other garbage you didn't want to mess with and broke the balance of the older versions.

>>5904540
What's the difference?
At this point all the Wojaks are used for the same things these days.

>>5904514
>Russian words
What is this? A fan wad or the new maps for World Tour?

>>5904549
World Tour had maps set around the world, one in Russia. It's one of the weaker maps, but there's some decent and even great ones in there too.

>>5904463
I dont think WT has HD textures, it has bumpmaps or whatever applied to the original textures so they can be dynamically lit.
And I dont know where the fuck you see a skylight.