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>N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, emualtion is still bad and will never get any better

>> No.5869680
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>>5869631
>N64
Okay far enough.
>Saturn, Dreamcast
Nigger what are you doing?

>> No.5869690

>>5869631
hella gay, just get the consoles

>> No.5869701

>>5869690
Heh, what a fucking summwrfag.
Why bother getting a consile like some hoarder when you can just make a Retropi™ that can have all the libraries of Nintendo, Sega, Sony, and even NeoGeo games all on one small, easy to install kit?

You know, as a video game preservationist myself, i feel like we need to just get rid of all this physi al media garbage and have a taste of the pie; RETROPI™

>> No.5869706

>>5869631
zoomers baiting zoomers baiting zoomers

>> No.5869718

>>5869701
you'll never have every game emulated, and they all play best with their original controller. fuck off with your garbage digital fake ass bullshit

>> No.5869719

>n64
mupen64plus with angrylion plugin

>saturn
mednafen or ssf

>dc
demul or redream

>> No.5869725

>>5869719
>mupen64plus with angrylion plugin
That's retarded. Project64 has better performance with Angrylion.

>> No.5869743

>>5869718
Heh, what a fucking summwrfag.
Why bother getting a consile like some hoarder when you can just make a Retropi™ that can have ALL the libraries of Nintendo, Sega, Sony, and even NeoGeo games (that matter) all on one small, easy to install kit?

You know, as a video game preservationist myself, i feel like we need to just get rid of all this physi al media garbage and have a taste of the pie; RETROPI™

>> No.5869747

>>5869701
This but unironically. It's kind of amazing that a $25 mini computer is my entire retro gaming setup, and this is coming from someone who's owned N64s, PS1s, etc. It does just enough to where it was worth the life change from having an autistic shrine in my living room of video game consoles, to now a normie friendly frontend with enough accuracy for me. I understand other people wanting all the equipment and old gear but for me it was time to grow up and become a better version of myself in all areas of life.

>> No.5869752

>>5869725
pj64 is malware.

>> No.5869759

>>5869631
>t. a retard who can't compile mupen or configure software

>> No.5869760

>>5869747
You're still putting importance over 100s of roms you'll never have time to play and enjoy. I know that this whole "retropi is the normie option", but most regular people would be even more put off by someone pointing to a retropi with pride. To then, you literally bought a tiny computer to have a bunch of games you've never played before and put it in your living room like its a reasonable talking point.

>> No.5869763

>>5869719
YabaSanshiro on Android for Saturn as well. Can't find issues with it. (recently they did fuck something up with scaling and shaders, but it was fixed and caused by them.)

>> No.5869764

>>5869760
>but most regular people would be even more put off by someone pointing to a retropi with pride
they'd be even more put off if you show them actual N64/Saturn etc, because they'd think you are a manchild forever stuck in the bygone times.

>> No.5869775

>>5869764
They'd equally think the same of someone who bought a computer to do so as well;.

The container doesn't matter; it's the fact that you're still proud of playing video games from your childhood that's off putting.

>> No.5869792

>>5869775
>The container doesn't matter; it's the fact that you're still proud of playing video games from your childhood that's off putting.
Is this some kind of bullshit ruse? So-called normies lost their minds over the Mini line for that very reason.

>> No.5869794

>>5869760
I organized them with only "best of" games. So multiplayer has Mario Kart 64, Mario Party, etc.
>>5869775
No they think it's pretty cool, a lot of people have their own memories with the games after all. One girl asked me about how to get one and after she got it in the mail I set it up for her and put her childhood favorite game on it, Zelda on SNES.

>> No.5869819

>>5869631
Learn how to spell, buddy.

>> No.5870459

>>5869775
Why do you care? Who do you have in your home that you want to hide the fact that you like games from? I like playing old games I've never played, and occasionally old games I have, I have a modded SNES classic on my TV stand and anybody who comes over and has ever mentioned it has either said it was cool or asked to play. I'm not having people in my home who might judge me, and if they would fuck em anyway.

>> No.5870467

>>5869752
>pj64 is malware.
There's no malware in latest build. There's even a buildbot now, so you don't even need to install project64.

>>5869759
>thinking mupen is actually good
That's retarded.

>> No.5870487

>>5869631
>N64
Softmod a Wii (very simple) and download VC WADs of N64 ROMs. There's a limited selection of N64 releases from the VC era, but there's some pretty good coverage. And Nintendo's emulator works well enough.

>Saturn
Cassini isn't half-bad.

>Dreamcast
Real hardware is cheap, and loading backups is a breeze. In fact, the ease of DC piracy is one of the reasons the DC didn't survive long outside of Japan.

>> No.5870607

>>5869631
:I

>> No.5871376

>>5870459
>the one other incel who ever came over was as much a looser as me
Sounds about right. Not the anon you're trying to justify your so called life to BTW.

>> No.5871483

>Saturn
>Bad
OP too retarded to use mednafen I see

>> No.5871494

>>5871483

Stop trying to viral your shit emulator. It's like this is literally all you with your free time. This place is shitty enough without unconstructive advertising being forced into every thread.

>> No.5871504

>>5871494
Or maybe you are clueless retard, who doesn't know shit about emulation(like the OP).

>> No.5871508
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5871508

PS1 and SNES are the only retro consoles that matter, and their emulation is fine so whatever.

>> No.5871615

a Saturn flashcart is in development and going to be great

>> No.5871640

Most of you in this thread are autistic. Who cares what you play on if at the end of the day you’re playing the games you want to play.

>> No.5871661

>>5871508
Based!

>> No.5871673

>>5871483
>OP too retarded to use mednafen I see

Saturn Mednafen is full of hacks, and very early in development. It'll take a few years to be good.

>> No.5871685

rpgtranny

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5871907

Can someone fucking tell me why I can't configure my controller correctly in Mupen64Plus QT? I map the buttons according to what the windows button check tells me but my buttons are way off.

>> No.5871919

>>5869631
Whatever. I'm just glad I lived to see cycle accurate emulation of 16 bit consoles.

>> No.5871925

>>5869631
This, unfortunately.
Even third party developers had problems understanding the way the Saturn and Dreamcast worked.

>> No.5871932
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5871932

>>5869725
>that’s retarded just download PC aids instead

>> No.5871938

>>5869701
Where can you buy one at? Or should I teach myself Raspberry?

>> No.5871945

>>5871508
No Pokemon?

>> No.5871962

>>5869764
>>5869792
>>5869794
>>5870459
>having the original console and playing old games is evident of being a manchild
>but here's my epic Super Nintendo Entertainment System Classic and my raspberry pi in my shitty 3d printed case with all the retro video games from my childhood I need haha I am such an adult r-right guys?
You're playing video games that lost their relevancy over 20 years ago, you're just as much of a manchild as the next guy. Sure maybe normies will think "woah dude so retro!!!" when you show them your genesis mini, but after 5 minutes of sonic the hedgehog they're going to want to go back to playing the hottest new game.

>> No.5872451

Why do white people post this face?

>> No.5873043

>>5871615
rhea/phoebe are available (once every blue moon)

>> No.5873054

>>5871962
>You're playing video games that lost their relevancy over 20 years ago, you're just as much of a manchild as the next guy.
Using the word "relevancy" that way is stupid. A game is relevant to the person who is playing it. Your idea of "relevancy" being something that the mainstream endorses, and claiming that is better than someone who chooses games to play that they actually prefer to play even if they can't talk to others about them as much, good joke.

>> No.5873059

>>5871508
This, but replace PS1 and SNES with Genesis and NES.

>> No.5873061

>>5869631
>>Saturn, Dreamcast, emualtion is still bad
FTFY
N64 emulation is pretty fucking good if you know where to look and what to do.

>> No.5873063

>>5871932
No, they're right, Project 64 new and old kicks ass.

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>>5872451
She's a very lame person who posted her face and told people to get a life on rk9 a couple months back.

>> No.5873082

>>5871962
Why are you on a retro games board if you think this way? You must be think you're a closeted fan of "old games for kid's" I guess then, but you're here to begin with so we all see it.

>> No.5873091

>>5869631
Dig into the hardware and improve it.

>> No.5873103

>>5871640
You're absolutely correct, but you're forgetting where you are. People here love to hate who they are and others like them, and shit on people for enjoying themselves because they're not doing it in the "correct" elitist manner.

>>5869775
>>5870459
>>5871962

>> No.5873125

SHUT THE FUCK UP!
IT WORKS 100%
1 0 0 %

Except for Indiana Jones, or Super Robot Wars Alpha (DC), or all those other games that don't work, the emulation is perfect! P E R F E C T!

It works on 100% of the 5 games I know, so it's perfect.

>> No.5873126

>>5873125
NullDC sucks. So many messing textures in Sonic Adventures

>> No.5873261

>>5869743
>>5869747
I agree with you, but I was bothered that retropi could not run cycle accurate emulators.
So I've built a core i9-9900k, RTX 2070, 16GB RAM, 1TB Samsing NVME mini-ITX desktop.
Now I can play retro games using the most accurate profiles for emulation without the risk of frameskipping or desync between the actual hardware chips, since the emulator core is running way over 2 times the highest frequency of the emulated machines, thus being rendered Nyquist compliant using the accurate code.
I also use Arch Linux since it has has such a fine grained control of what is installed and what is running on the background, also using the most acurate OpenGL and Vulcan drivers, so the emulator processes can be bare metal as possible.

>> No.5873273

>>5873125
You didn't hear? https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64/wiki/The-masterpiece-graphic-microcode-behind--the-Nintendo-64-version-of--Indiana-Jones-and-the-Infernal-Machine-and-Star-Wars-Episode-I:-Battle-for-Naboo
Are you new?

>> No.5873561

That's exactly what got me into game collecting. I used to be satisfied with playing Mega Man on an emulator and occassionally downloading games on virtual console, because I was a faggot you see. But Banjo-Kazooie being unplayable on my computer and unavailable on Wii because of licensing, I spent my Christmas money that year on an N64, and just like that, emulation was dead to me, and only decayed further and further the more retro consoles I added to the collection

>> No.5873912

>>5869631
So they suck on modern hardware. too? I just figured they ran like shit for me because I'm using a laptop from over a decade ago.

>> No.5874021

>>5869725
>pj64
Windows only proprietary malware aids
>>5870467
>latest build has no malware, therefore no official builds have malware
>thinking we shouldn't support the development of an ethically superior emulator which supports more platforms
>>5871907
Probably need to use SDL keycodes.
>windows
No one to blame for that but yourself.
There's also a libretro core btw.
>>5873063
PJ 64 was the first emulator I ever used. I am now a computer scientist and I can tell you that PJ64 is a piece of shit unless you're running on a Pentium 4.
>>5873091
Exactly, but if you think people who waste time here will do that you're kidding yourself
>>5873912
It's not the speed, it's the inaccuracy and bugs.

>> No.5874040

>>5869701
Mmm. Sensei Kondo-chan showed me the light and I've sold all of my useless plastic and cardboard. Now all I need is a slice of that hot RetroPi™

>> No.5874041

>>5874021
>I am now a computer scientist
I don't believe you.

>which supports more platforms
That's nice and all, but as long as your platform is supported, why care if other platforms are supported? I'm not going to use crappy software just because it's cross platform..

>>5871907
>using Mupen64Minus
Don't waste your time on that garbage emulator.

>> No.5874043

>>5874041
I don't either because I actually call myself a programmer. Computer science is just the phrase I use around normies.
>as long as your platform is supported, why care if other platforms are supported?
Well, my platform isn't supported, so there's that.
Also fuck you and that "I've got mine" mindset.

>> No.5874367

m64p is pretty good.
Mednafen Saturn and SSF are good and getting better all the time.
Flycast and DEmul are good.

>> No.5874379

>>5874043
>I don't either because I actually call myself a programmer. Computer science is just the phrase I use around normies.
I never call anything cringe but I'll make an exception for this.

>> No.5874385

>>5874043
What "platform" do you force yourself to use? You can't blame anyone but yourself for using a shit setup, ok there "programmer"

I DON'T USE WINDOWS! AFTER 2 YEARS OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE CODING CLASSES I KNOW BETTER NOW!.

>> No.5874441

>>5874367
>m64p
>is pretty good.
pick 1

>>5874043
>Also fuck you and that "I've got mine" mindset.
You act like most people aren't self-interested. Do you care whether or not a product supports toasters? I doubt it, judging by your previous post..

>> No.5874442

>>5869701
shit bait, mentions summer when the kids are already back in school

>> No.5874503

>we will never have xbox emulation

>> No.5874971

>>5869631
>and will never get any better
this is where you lost me. They are improving, it's just slow.

>> No.5874982

>>5874385
After spending years studying computer science he gets to use gimped operating systems where the best software is a poor imitation of windows/mac and it takes a half an hour to install anything because he has to compile everything himself and then he has to figure out why it's not working and what's broken in it if he can get it running at all.

>> No.5874984

>>5871376
>>5871962
>>5873103
My major point isn't that the SNES Mini is the right way to play old games, just that it's the way I choose to play and it makes itself obvious by being a miniature replica of a SNES. If you like to play on your PC, or Raspberry Pi, or original console, that's cool too, you don't need to justify your life or your habits, and you don't need to feel bad about what you actually like.

>> No.5875756

>>5869631
>saturn
https://joecapo.itch.io/k95

>> No.5875802

>>5869631
Do something about it? Learn to code, study electric engendering, research what makes the hardware and software tick.

>> No.5875962

>>5874021
>PJ 64 was the first emulator I ever used.
Cool.

>I am now a computer scientist and I can tell you that PJ64 is a piece of shit unless you're running on a Pentium 4.
I doubt you are a computer scientist.

>> No.5875976

>>5869743
HOW DO I GET MY SAVE DATA FROM MY CONSOLES, SHITLORD?

>> No.5875979

>>5875802
One day, I want to make an FPGA-based emulator which perfectly recreates the hardware.

>> No.5876204

>>5869631
Are there more pics of this qt?

>> No.5876381

>>5874984
based

>> No.5877469

>>5875756
how did he make the game?

>> No.5877507

>>5871508
Based Chrono poster. Feels good to find a person of culture in this board.

>> No.5877589

>>5869631
>n64
isn't angrylion like cycle-accurate now? gliden64 seems pretty accurate too even on more intense games like mario tennis
>>5869759
mupen64plus-gui just werks

>> No.5877715

>>5877589
>mupen64plus-gui just werks
You mean the gui that's behind a paywall?

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anyone know how to fix this? it only does this for this rom

>> No.5878147

>>5869680
alright wise guy how can I play Virtual On
every time I've tried it just crashes

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5878340

>>5869631
Brother and sister confirmed?

>> No.5878343

>>5877715
Please answer, are you a zoomer who's never seen a command line or a boomer who doesn't understand how computers work at all? I wonder when I see desperate "Please I need a GUI!" posts

>> No.5878975

>>5872451
>brown eyes
>white people

>> No.5879061

>>5869631
I haven't tried redream or demul, but the DC plugin on retroarch works really well with CvS2 and MvC2, which is all i really play with friends over.

>> No.5879075

>>5877589
>mupen64plus-gui
>a retard who can't compile mupen or configure software

>> No.5879206

>>5878343
Command line is terrible when you have to deal with tons of different per-game settings. I'm a millenial. Gosh all these terms sound cringey lol.

>> No.5879264

>>5879061

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXGlK-fGe4&t=30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5j_fvcwzWk

>> No.5880654

>>5879264

LOL

RA looks great for N64, and DC emulation in test vids. Real world? Not so much.

>> No.5881783

more like retro SHIT

>> No.5881796

>>5873059
Patrician taste

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>>5874021
>I’m a computer scientist

>> No.5882871

>>5878147
Play the PC version on your retro pc

>> No.5882959

>>5881783
Yo mama's a retro shit

>> No.5883548

>>5873261
what games do you play

>> No.5883583

Itt
> poor zoomies who can't afford to buy retro so they get a cheap knock
If I'm a man child at least I'm one with money. Stay poor zoomers

>> No.5883608

>>5874021
>I am now a computer scientist
Literally everyone on this board has a CS degree.

>> No.5884796

>>5881783
LOL

>> No.5884818

>>5869760
>entire wall shelves of yellowing toys
vs
>a 1×3×4 inch box
Look, I'm jealous of guys with sperg basement man caves full of consoles and games that just don't care, but don't act like it's comparable. You'd have to actively bring up the latter, and it's unlikely you would or you'd just have the wall of shame.

>> No.5884827

>>5869775
It's a $35 computer. You can spend more on a short night out. I doubt most people care about judging you that much.

>> No.5884838

All 3 main Saturn emulators had big updates this month.

>> No.5884846

>>5884838
>ssf
>updating

>> No.5884925

>>5884827
>caring about what other people think of you and what you do with your money

>> No.5884945

>>5870487
Oh yeah, it was so easy to download 1 GB Dreamcast games on a 56k modem in 1999

>> No.5884948

>>5871508
Based incel.

>> No.5884952

>>5871925
Dreamcast is the easiest console ever to develop games for, you retard

>> No.5884960

>>5873059
*Genesis and Turbografx

>> No.5884979

>>5884846
https://twitter.com/FessX/status/1170853300826034176 You lose.

>> No.5884984

>>5884925
That was my point.

>> No.5885039

>>5884945
No, but it was easy to buy it off some bootlegger for 2 bucks a game.

>> No.5885046

>>5871483
There's still several games that don't run well on mednafen. But yeah with the newest versions of mednafen and SSF Saturn emulation is now "good" in the sense that you'll probably be able to play just about any game you want and it will run fine.

>> No.5885069

>>5885039
Dreamcast died because Okawa seized the reigns at Sega and didn’t want to compete with Micro$hit in the console market, you dumbfuck zoomer.

>> No.5885070

>>5885046
What was holding them up all this time?

>> No.5885179

>>5871508
Pathetic and limited basehead

>> No.5886016 [DELETED] 

Nigga I played SM64 on a laptop like 8 years ago with no problems. Have sex.

>> No.5886026

Are people who shill for Retropie and other forms of emulation just so shit at games that they don’t notice the input lag?

>> No.5886091

>>5886016

>Nintoddler admitting N64 has no games worth playing other than M64

>> No.5886106 [DELETED] 

>>5886091
You're a nintoddler bitch. I'll kill you.

>> No.5888152

>>5886026
Using Retropie 4.4 on a Raspberry Pi 3B, Super Metroid has exactly 2.2 frames or 36.7 MS of latency. Proof https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vIIryG5qWiL4FiWjwNMgxI58vLiEy8do/view This is less than original hardware.

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>>5869719
>>5869719
Here is what you do if you don't want pixel perfect n64 barf vision:
To play Goldeneye and Perfect Dark (raw mouse input!), you use this:
https://archive.org/details/1964GEPD
>why?
Over 100 reasons why: http://www.shootersforever.com/forums_message_boards/viewtopic.php?t=7045
Other bonus shit:
Mouse Quake 64: http://www.shootersforever.com/forums_message_boards/viewtopic.php?t=7430
Ocarina of Time ModLoader, and Online Multi that works. Don't screen share, can go anywhere in the game without the other players. Items and world state sync.
https://github.com/hylian-modding/OotModLoader
They're working on Banjo Kazooie Online right now as well. Pic related.
Super Mario 64 Online via: https://net64-mod.github.io/

Otherwise, get this pack I made here: https:// mega. nz/#!hw1UFCIb!XkHdpSKvXXwPzII5-j-yR21k8QuYBdmKYhJ-PWzZLqs

If you use Projec64, after first time running exe, go into Config folder, open Project64.cfg, and change this line to:
[Support Project64]
Run Count=-1
In order to stop the fucking nag screen, fuck you zilmar, and fuck you twice for using shitty plugins. Set up the plugins as follows for Project64:
GLideN64 latest gitbuild
Default Audio Plugin, Azimer is you have issues.
HLE Graphics box is ticked
HLE Audio *IF* you're using Azimer's Audio Plugin.

Setup Mupen64plus with GLideN64 as well.

What's inside:

Emulator:
https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-core/releases/tag/2.5.9
https://mupen64plus.org/docs/

Frontend GUI:
https://github.com/dh4/mupen64plus-qt or https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-ui-python

LatestGLideN64 video plugin build (he just added ReShade support):
https://github.com/gonetz/GLideN64/issues/2037#issuecomment-525800910
Read what gonetz says on how to use that new feature.

Optional for Project64, if you have audio issues, use this (last?) latest build of Azimer's Audio plugin:
https://github.com/Azimer/AziAudio/releases
Donkey Kong 64 works better with Azimer's Audio, and fuck with the timing.

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>>5888306
cont.
GLideN64 good compatibility settings. Can be demanding, not for shite old PCs.

>> No.5888412

>>5888152
If it's less, then you're relying on hiding emulation lag inside native game lag. That's fine for the games that have baked in input lag, but doesn't help you for the hundreds upon hundreds of classics that don't.
Just like everything in this thread. It works for the things it works for and not a jot more.

>> No.5888426

>>5869631
Why do threads like this stick around for so long? It is wrong information and you all know it. Stop replying to retard autistic bait and it will go away.

This is the current spam of "muh sega system" and "is this chink clone any good....(that they help promote/astroturf)"

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5888621

>>5869631
Why are the FPGAfags wasting their time with FPGA clones for consoles that emulate easily like NES/SNES/MD when the BEST application for such devices would be making hardware clones of systems with complicated architecture like N64 and Saturn.

>> No.5888629

>>5888306
>>5888324
based

>> No.5888630

>>5873059
jarpig fans are truly insufferable

>> No.5888634

>>5872451
>white

>>5873043
no point. Just get a modchip or pseudosaturn and a stack of CD-Rs. Fuck that faggot who develops those ODEs. I wouldn't buy shit from him even if they were only a dollar.

>> No.5888643

Go buy the real thing and get yourself a flash cart or mod it.

>> No.5888647

>>5888621
Because the 4th gen hardware is easy to understand while the N64 is a very strange beast.

>> No.5888656

>>5888621
>emulate easily like NES/SNES/MD
Software emulation sucks. FPGAs are a massive upgrade, though overall still not as good as original hardware

>> No.5889000

>>5888412
Wrong.

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How the fuck do you get SSF to work? It just pops up in a really small window and gives me this error