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5865556 No.5865556 [Reply] [Original]

I didn't start this thread as a pure shitpost, I am genuinely asking if many of you think BLOOD is the epitome of what an FPS should be, I personally think Blood, FEAR and DOOM (1-64) are the holy trinity of good FPS games as far as pure game design and aesthetic go, I mean can you really think of another game that is as cozy as blood but matches the chaotic nature of the entire game?

>> No.5865557

Oh no, not at all. The levels are far too inconsistent in quality, the enemies take far too much damage to be fun to fight. I think Blood is vastly overrated and if you're putting it on a pedestal, it's time to step back and play another game.

>> No.5865563

>>5865557
I have played Shadow Warrior, Duke and Ion Maiden. So far with everything made on that engine it stands out to me as being the most creative in its enemies and its weapon design. And I don't think the enemies are too spongy I think the game is something that should be played on Broiled and then again on Extra Crispy since you will have an understanding of the games mechanics secretes and enemy placement.

>> No.5865614

I used to believe this, but then after playing it again and some of its mods several times, I realized I loved its aesthetic/presentation more than the gameplay. A major flaw with this game is the enemies, besides the cultists, none of the other non-boss enemies pose that much of a threat to you. You're so agile that not only can you jump over enemy heads, but you can bounce on them to propel yourself higher. Not many have a projectile attack, and for those that do (Butcher, Gargoyle) its easily dodgeable. This is especially noticeable when playing a map where there are no cultists, the game is a cakewalk, which is no fun, but then again, neither are hitscan enemies with a less than 1 second windup. Ion Fury has its own problems, but I believe it is the best build engine game.

>> No.5865703

>>5865614
>>5865614
That is pretty reasonable and I do suppose I never really compared the enemy roster line up and it's lack of diversity when it came to attack strategies, ION fury does have on thing I love and that is the headshots, my god is it satisfying to get those

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>>5865556
of course it is the best

>> No.5865790

>>5865781
See like literally all of those enemies are distinguishable by their silhouette alone, very good character design imo

>> No.5865993

Death Wish is better and more fun than base Blood.
The levels are great, a lot more interesting than vanilla episodes, great design both for gameplay and looks. Encounter design is also a lot better than the vanilla game, using extension enemies and mixing the complete roster in very interesting encounters.
Also it looks so fucking great.
I had more fun playing and replaying Death Wish than Blood, and I had more fun with Blood than any other build engine game. So I'd say Death Wish is the true single best build engine game. I'm kinda sad this will forever be a mod and thus never get the actual recognition it deserves. But it is a great fucking game.

>> No.5866040

>>5865556
It's pretty close to the best ever.

>>5865557
I've played hundreds of FPSes and I'd put Blood in the top 3 or so.

>> No.5866103

>>5865556
I think Blood is super overrated by people who think difficulty and aesthetics are the only good things in games and I would rather play Doom or Duke 3D any fucking day of the week over it.

Sorry but I don't like my FPS to be treated like Resident Evil where I'm running out of ammo all the fucking time and basically HAVE to look at a walkthrough to find secrets otherwise you run out and have to pitchfork everything. Not a fun or well designed game.

>> No.5866225

>>5865557
fpbp

>> No.5866297

>>5865781
only 2 of those 11 (not counting caleb) enemies are ever going to kill you.

>> No.5866301
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>>5866103
>where I'm running out of ammo all the fucking time and basically HAVE to look at a walkthrough to find secrets otherwise you run out and have to pitchfork everything.
You could've at least tried to hide the fact that you're a shitter.

>> No.5866586

>>5865557
>the enemies take far too much damage to be fun to fight
Anything that doesn't die in one good double shotgun blast is meant to be taken out with one of the many stronger weapons

>> No.5866640

>>5866040
My GOG library is composed of pretty much any and all FPS games I get my hands on form the early 90s to the mid 2000s and Blood is still the one I come back to the most, that and FEAR, Far Cry 2 and Crisis are also pretty good shooters but not in the same way blood and fear are

>> No.5866641

>>5865993
I feel as though Shadow Warrior is the weakest of the bunch since it really is just kind of a chore to play IMO, Ion Fury is very rewarding though and its headshot system is really nice and satisfying. I wish blood would get a sequel made in the Build Engine with the full Ion Maiden treatment of new sprites and reworked lighting

>> No.5866645

The next person to post in this thread is a huge faggot.

>> No.5866751

>use weapon called "life leech"
>just fires magic projectiles like a typical weapon

Should've called it the Skull Totem, since you can stand it up and use it like a turret

>> No.5866784

>>5866751
huge faggot.

>> No.5866792

>>5866784
If I'm a huge faggot, how about you suck my fucking HUGE, FAGGOT, DICK? HAHA! YOU LIKE THAT?

>> No.5866795

>>5866792
Nah, thats pretty gay... faggot.

>> No.5866796

>>5866795
Gay what? Gay like this?
*bends over and spreads ass cheeks*
Gay like that? You wanna fuck my big faggot ass?
*rubs asshole*
That's gay, bro? Think that's fucking gay?

>> No.5866803

Played it for the first time back in May and I hated it. So no.

>> No.5866815

>>5866796
Well... yea.

>> No.5866918

>>5866796
Holy Shit, Anon. You're flaming homosex.

>> No.5866984

>>5865556
No.

>> No.5866995

>>5865556
I don't know. I don't play games by and for edgy children.

>> No.5867009

>>5866796
Nazi were fairly happy.

>> No.5867106

I still maintain that Douk has the best level design

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>>5865557
>the enemies take far too much damage to be fun to fight
>>5866103
>running out of ammo
Are you two aware that this aint doom, enemies have weaknesses and resistances to certain damage types and that you arent supposed to fire all your flares into Hellhounds?

>> No.5868175

>>5865556
Nah you need to play hexen and heretic.

>> No.5868209

>>5868175
>heretic

I liked Hexen but Heretic is a chore. Every enemy is a sponge and the weapons don't feel good to use. Level layout becomes obvious too when every little room will clearly have enemies in it and every button or key pickup opens walls with more enemies.

>> No.5868230

>>5866103
Based

>> No.5868231

>>5866751
How about you shove that totem up your ass

>> No.5868235

>>5867106
After replaying doom/doom2/heretic/hexen and Duke/sw/blood/redneckrampage, I am inclined to agree with you. Especially episode 3.

>> No.5868236

>>5868209
>Level layout becomes obvious too when every little room will clearly have enemies in it and every button or key pickup opens walls with more enemies.
Literally doom2

>> No.5868239

>>5868236
Yeah but Doom 2 let's me mow everything down in seconds if I'm inclined to waste the ammo. In Heretic you'd need a power book to get even close to that efficiency.

>> No.5868252

DOOM XD!

>> No.5868267

I like how the people who usually say that Blood is their favorite out of the Build engine trinity, say so because Duke and Shadow Warrior stereotypes offends them.

>> No.5868269

>>5865556
>DOOM (1-64)

>> No.5868274

>>5868269
like did they seriously make that many? jfc

>> No.5868591

>>5868269
Lmao I mean't DOOM 1 and 2 and doom 64, I don't like DOOM 3 its fucking aids and NUDOOM is good but its not retro

>> No.5868595 [DELETED] 

>>5868267
Lmao I hate trannies and niggers bro those games don't offend me I just don't like their gameplay as much, Shadow warrior has dope melee though

>> No.5868603

>>5868267
Nigger.

>> No.5869542

>>5866796
Oh shit, I'm sorry.

>> No.5869569

>>5868591
>NUDOOM