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Sort of a meta thread. 30 yo boomer here, I somehow managed to preserve a good collection of retro games and consoles for many years and I regularly check their condition. I don't know why I am inflicting myself constant pain due to keeping a collection that reminds me of my happy childhood times.

What I am wondering is, will retro shit die with us or is there a population, let's say on /vr/, that was born after '99 and somehow has passion for retro games? Or is it just boomers like us are obsessive with retro games due to nostalgia goggles?

>> No.5817549

there's no new people getting into retro games because you hoard decent games for extraorbitant prices and tell them pirating roms is immoral

>> No.5817576

Yeah, zoomers love older games, not all of them, but many do, more than you think. Youtube is a huge factor.
My 14 year old cousin knows more about /vr/ shit than my early 20s cousins. he was excited when I showed him my /vr/ stuff, but we played some Vampire Savior, I wrecked his ass, and he didn't want to keep playing.

>> No.5817583

Zoomer will never catch on

>> No.5817629

>>5817549
correct post

>> No.5817642

>>5817549
/thread

>> No.5817664

>>5817543
>Sort of a meta thread. 30 yo boomer here, I somehow managed to preserve a good collection of retro games and consoles for many years and I regularly check their condition. I don't know why I am inflicting myself constant pain due to keeping a collection that reminds me of my happy childhood times.
That took a weird turn all of a sudden. You may be more suited to /adv/, /r9k/ or even /incel/.

>> No.5817723

>>5817543
My kids who are both under 10 love old games. I have my Genesis, NES, and PS1 hooked up to an old tv in a spare room and I can’t keep them out of there. Sonic 2, Street Fighter II Special Championship, Super Mario Bros 3, Pac-Man (Namco Museum), TMNT Hyperstone Heist, and Duck Hunt are some of their favorites (I like em too.)

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>>5817723
Ya did good, chad anon.

>> No.5817737

>>5817543
I hope not. I hope my kids arent gamers it's a terrible disability

>> No.5817750

>>5817543
did you ever consider self-improvement and becoming healthy and reliable and economically secure so that you can care for a mate and procreate some kids to play games with and give all your stuff to

most zoomers only hate this shit because there parents/uncle/whatever actually tried that but were also assholes

>> No.5817754

>>5817549
>waaaaaaaa I’m entitled to your video games

>> No.5817768

19 year old zoomer here, I have been getting into retro games, and I just started emulating Shadow Squadron and Snatcher.

>> No.5817840

>>5817543
Do you collect games and stuff from before your childhood, like Atari, Odyssey or Telstar? I'm guessing no, of course you don't. No one cares about old trash unless they have nostalgia for it in some way.

>> No.5817892

>>5817840
No, but I collect for consoles that I never knew existed as a child, like PC-FX and AES. How do you explain that?

>> No.5817905

>>5817543
There are zoomer mechanics who like classic cars that were made before they were born, zoomer musicians who listen to tunes that were recorded before they were born and zoomer movie goers who like old movies.

As long as the hobby is popular there will always be a hardcore subset that's not only interested in the present but also in the history of their hobby.

>> No.5817948

>>5817768
go fuck yourself

>> No.5817956

>>5817543
We're always gonna have poor people who are forced to play old N64 their parents bought them for 20 bucks at a garage sale. I was born in 2000 but I grew up playing PS1 and N64 in 2008 because my parents wouldn't buy me a present worth more than 50 bucks on my birthday or christmas.

>> No.5817965

>>5817543
There will always be some. Just never as many as now since our generations grew up with this stuff.

>> No.5817972

>>5817956
Youre probably the only kid of your time who actually played E rated and T rated games.

>> No.5818062

>>5817840
Haha

>> No.5818118

>>5817543
Boomer here, I don't care if they care.

>> No.5818135

>>5817543
I sure hope so because this may be the worst vidya generation ever. They're growing up when microtransactions, SJW politics, streaming (as in Stadia god I hope that fails) are the norm. You know it's fucked when every kid wants to be a dumbshit youtuber like Pewdiepie instead of an astronaut.

>> No.5818136

My little brother is about 11 years younger than me and was really into collecting retro games a while back, but it was more of a phase where he liked the idea having a collection more than the games themselves. He was playing Mario RPG and I had to help him beat some bosses and we're talking about babby's first JRPG and he was 20 at the time. I think retro games will be like black and white movies. Academics/kids in a hipster phase will keep their memory alive, but eventually they'll cease to have any cultural weight.

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>>5818135
That last sentence fucked me up.

>> No.5818182

>>5818135
>You know it's fucked when every kid wants to be a dumbshit youtuber like Pewdiepie instead of an astronaut.
Every generation has gone "i want to be a celebrity!" instead of everybody saying that they want to be an astronaut. I want to be an actor, I want to be a rock star, etc. You're only just mad over it now because it's the newfangled thing that the kids are into the same way old people think that video games are stupid. It's also fairly grounded compared to trying to be an astronaut which even most kids would admit is something that only a tiny amount of people can achieve.

>> No.5818184

>>5817543
It's actually incredibly common, and there's a lot of exposure to old games because of Youtube. Turns out the idea that a newer generation won't like the same thing as the old one is an idea mostly propped up by people who want to feel special and that kids these days are stupid and don't appreciate good things, just like every single generation before them has said. The ratio is about the same as it's always been.

>> No.5818221

>>5817723
>>5817725
Update on this- I showed them Fire Shark tonight and they were jumping up and down screaming “Use the bomb use the bomb!” Parenthood rules.

>> No.5818235

>>5818184
It's not common idiot

>> No.5818237

>>5818235
Telling yourself that won't make you special.

>> No.5818254

>>5818237
No
It literally isn't
in 500 people 18 and under maybe 1 will like /vr/

>> No.5818260

Statistically you are not a boomer.

>> No.5818274

>>5817543
Why wouldn't they? You have access to a larger library of games than most people will play in their life time that can be played on basically any device today, all while taking up little space. Unless someone has a complete aversion to 2D games, there's no reason not to like the 16 bit era at least.

>> No.5818292

>>5817543
A lot of third world zoomers grew up with clone consoles (mostly famiclones and genesis clones), so I guess there's a bit of hope.

>> No.5818365

i take care of some nieces and nephews, they had a wii so i pumped it full of emulators and they love it.
one of the girls loves harvest moon and can play that shit for hours

>> No.5818373

i see a lot of kids playing older stuff.
in lower income families, they might get one of those bootlegs that has a crapton of old games or they'll just get a modded wii or something.
or just those mini sega/nintendo consoles

>> No.5818374

>>5818182
When you think about it, astronauts were the celebrities of the 60s.

>> No.5818391

/v/-tier thread .

>> No.5818527

21 and I do, but I grew up in a poor ass country and had to play DOS games in the early-mid 2000s

>> No.5818819

>>5817543
What's with all the feels shitposting recenty? Is your containment board down?

>> No.5818835

>>5817750
I want to have a family soon, seriously I don't mind having kids and teaching them shit. But I don't trust my health nor I do have an economically stable life although I am working at one of the best companies. The one thing current system took from newer generations is stability and future-proofing your life. Real boomers were always able to buy a house, car, able to afford health care and have a good pension no matter their job while newer generations are basically left in the wild, not to mention the industries that fucked up the world so bad that people get cancer just as they get flu. We just don't feel safe enough to reproduce.

>> No.5818852

>>5817543
Yes. People definitely not born in the fucking 20s still watch films produced in the 20s, same with literally ever generation prior. Games are not the exception, and neither are you.

>> No.5818915

As long as there are people who can only afford toaster-tier devices, the spirit will remain alive.

>> No.5818986
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>>5817543
Turned 18 a couple of months ago and have played nothing but retro stuff since I was 14, I believe.

My interest snowballed after I bought a Gamecube to relive some of my childhood memories. I have bought all sorts of old consoles and games across the years, good stuff.
Right now I'm trying to beat the Thief games, but my arachnophobia won't let me. These are not stealth games, they are horror games.

anyway here's the answer you are looking for, OP
>>5818184

>> No.5819021

>>5817629
>>5817642
Except he's retarded.

>> No.5819031

>>5817549
If zoomers are too stupid to do something people tell them not to due to "moral reasons" they don't deserve to play them anyway. I think anyone who wanders onto this board should be given a care package of all the best roms and emulators as a welcome gift and a fuck you to collector fags.

>> No.5819037

>>5817840
Consoles before the NES were shit, so of course no one is collecting that stuff. Arcade games from back then are great, though.

>> No.5819038

>>5818986
>my arachnophobia won't let me

What are you, a girl?

At least you have good taste, though.

>> No.5819058

>>5819038
I can't help it, everything about them is unpleasant, particularly their noises. The sound design is really well done, I guess.

There's actually a mod that removes them entirely from the games, but I'm not going to that extreme.

>> No.5819087

Most of them do not much like every generation. Overheard a cousin earlier this year say to a friend "I only own things from this decade" in response to a question about if he still owned a N64 or not. People drop popular games very quickly, retro or not.

>> No.5819243

>>5818986
There's actually a patch to remove all the spiders:

https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148791

>> No.5819814

>>5817543
In 15yrs retro games will be fortnite. Don't worry

>> No.5819851

>>5818986
I remember when the spider ladies made me instantly quit Castlevania 64 when I was a kid. And when I was looking through a magazine for RE2 and saw there were spiders, I decided to never play it. At least I'm playing them now. I'm pretty much right there with you, Anon. I still can't play Legend of Grimrock because those fuckers jump right at your fucking face to attack.

>> No.5819996

>>5817543
My co-worker is 22 and playing through every major SNES, Genesis, and PS1 RPG on his Android phone. I recommended him SaGa Frontier and got to spend my shift watching him play and ignoring phone calls.

They're out there OP.

>> No.5820029

>>5817543
I'd say about 80% of my students between 9 and 14 are interested in retro games to some notable extent, compared to about 10% of my peers who actually grew up with those same games. Kids mostly watch "reviews" and let's-plays rather than actually playing those Contras and Sonics, but the interest is real (mostly due to popular Youtuber coverage of retro gaming).
In other words, an average 12 year old seems more interested in Contra and Castlevania than an average 32 year old, for whatever that's worth.

>> No.5820038

18 year old newfag here.

From my personal experience and from what I know of my friends. We only really like gens 3-5 in terms of retro. We respect gen 3 but don't play many of the games, only the ones that are still considered fun by many people today.

This is also where the push to make gen 6 considered retro comes from as our nostalgia lies with gens 4-6. The way me and my friends see it at least is this, gens 1-3 are essentially becoming classical, some are fun but the majority is too old or clunky. And retro is evolving to gens 4-6, stuff that the majority of gamers grew up with. In 10 or so years I'd imagine an 18 year old that grew up with gen 7 will call that retro and so on and so forth.

In short, it'll slowly change demographics from people who are nostalgic, to people who just like old things, all within your lifetime.

>> No.5820048

"Retro" is a sliding scale you morons. They'll be into THEIR Retro games, they'll not be into OUR retro games.

Another term will be coined for games that have fallen out the other side of the Retro window, mark my words.

>> No.5820053

>>5820048
I'm personally find of the term classical gaming for older retro

>> No.5820062

>>5817840
I fucking love Adventure & Thin Ice, thank you very much.

>> No.5820069

>>5817840
I like pinball. I don't own a machine due to cost and technical knowledge, but I love PinballFX3's Williams tables and have a few hundred hours clocked.

>> No.5820072

>>5820038
Little late on this one. Everyone on the fucking internet thinks Gen6 has been retro for a few years now.

>> No.5820073

>>5820072
This board doesn't.

>> No.5820091

>>5820073
I don't understand why, 1999 for the cut off seems arbitrary, and that decision was made by at least 2014. It's been 5 years since, they fall under the category by this point.

>> No.5820107

>>5820091
It wasn't arbitrary back then I'm guessing, but now this board is so locked in.

Why isn't there a vote or something?

>> No.5820110

>>5820091
No. No. And No.

You're retarded.

The End.

>> No.5820117

>>5820091
Yeah, my personal criteria is if it's 15 years old it became retro. That's long enough for people to become nostalgic. But I know many people would disagree and say something else just as arbitrary as my definition.

The main thing with people on this board is that they aren't talking about how old something is, rather how the game feels. At least, that's what I'm told by people here.

>> No.5820119

>>5820091
Theoretically, yes. But as you can see, there's a pushback. It'd work better for Gen6/7 to get a separate board.

>> No.5820125

>>5820119
>separate board

/nuvr/

>> No.5820137

>>5820119
Yeah, there definitely needs to be a new board. But that's not gonna happen because apparently that would be too many boards about videogames or something. Idk.

>> No.5820219

>>5820110
>>5820119
I love to see you real deal oldfags, there are tons of you on this board. There's a generation of people who are about to be adults whose earliest gaming experience is a fuzzy memory of Wii Sports. The PS2 is almost 20. If we can have threads about the PS1, the Saturn, or the Dreamcast, we can definitely fold in PS2 threads.

Anyone on any board asking for a containment board is an absolute brainlet shitter.

>> No.5820234

>>5820219
6th gen consoles outside of the GBA (because hardware limitations and premature death in 2005 because of the DS) saw major change in game design. Most modern games are still very similar to 6th gen games. The changes have mostly been graphical improvements that are not as large as they used to be.

>> No.5820245

>>5820234
Play some Gen 6 games, they are not. Some of them hold up great!--unlike Gen 5, but virtually none of them could ever be construed as modern games. You can move the goalposts forever on this shit. I guess I don't understand what the negative effects of having a few Gen 6 threads in the catalog would be. This board isn't quite a slow board, but it could be better.

I love the culture of this board. You don't really get meme posters here, a lot of the replies are thoughtful and well-written. But the zoomers aren't going to barrel in when we're suddenly allowed to discuss Mister Mosquito.

>> No.5820257

Anyone feel kind of sorry for zoomers?

Like for millennials you can always emulate most things. Sure some multiplayer game experiences are not possible to, especially if they weren't popular.

But for zoomers like every game they play depends on an online connection. 15, 20 years from now they won't be able to play any of those games despite their nostalgia hitting full force.

>> No.5820264

>>5820257
Games are social now in a way they have never been before. Fortnite, sans buddies, has way less appeal. Rocket League, sans buddies, has way less appeal. But you're still right, these games will become unavailable in an entirely different way.

>> No.5820272

>>5820257
I already know that feeling. Launch Star Wars Galaxies and City of Heroes are gone forever.

Kids will have it bad

>> No.5820273

>>5817840
I dont collect much but i like cpc and speccy games and i was born in the 90s.

>> No.5820275

>>5820257
Kind of, yeah, though it makes me sick to my stomach that kids 20 years from now will be nostalgic for fortnite. It is sad though that companies like Epic will kill off anything that's not their current cash cow. And there's a chance streaming video games is the future, which I don't believe they'll have any chance to archive their games.

>> No.5820276

>>5820234
1st and 2nd generation consoles are very different from 3, 4, and 5. Should they be on separate boards? 5th gen pioneered genres that 6th gen and later gens improved upon, so should that be left off this board?

>> No.5820286

>>5820125
How new are you? Its always been called /v2k/

>> No.5820304

>>5820276
It could be that way, I mean those things make some sense. However the decision was taken to have it this way, that this was the most sensible way to have it. What is your mental difficulty with this? You could say that about anything. You could say why does elementary school last five years. You could say why not four or six years and try to argue that. Or if the speed limit was 30 mph in a particular area, you could try to claim it's an arbitrary speed limit. You wouldn't say why isn't it 20 mph and point out that a kid could run across the road, so why isn't it 20 mph. The matter was decided and it's a good decision. Why are you trying to change it? It wasn't "arbitrary" at all, it was the exact opposite of "arbtirary". It was carefully thought over that this would be a good period to consider retro.

>> No.5820309

>>5820219
>>5820119
>>5820091
The choice of the cutoff year is 100% arbitrary, and there's no other way around it. "Retro" means different things to different people. To people in their 30s like me PS2 is not retro and will never, ever be, period. Elsewhere, GameCube was retro when PS3 was new. My nephew says iPhones are retro. It's entirely subjective. As long as people of my age make decisions on this board, Gears of War will not be considered retro and that's just it; there can be no arguments and no time frames, because it's not retro forever for us folks.

>> No.5820317

>>5817840
If I had space, I'd buy a 7800 and Pong
You can usually get giant bins of Atari games for like $10 lol

>> No.5820318

>>5820304
A decision made 5 years ago, about a metaphorical arbitrary line in the sand. Times are changing, people are growing older, getting nostalgic over different things.

>> No.5820326

>>5820245
Gen 6 layed the groundwork for the games we have today. Here is s good video that sheds a bit of light on the issue.
https://youtu.be/jCmmYF4rOwo

I also think the 6th generation alone could have its own board. There is so much inbetween /vr/ and the stuff /v/ talks about and it mostly falls into the 6th gen. We dont need all that extra traffic here. A solution would be to go to /vg/ and start ps2 general, but that would end up being a shit show. /V2k/ is a good idea.

>> No.5820329

>>5820309
I'm surprised 5th gen is retro.
The old argument was that it was the start of 3D so it wasn't retro.
Who really cares

>> No.5820331

>>5820318
Again nobody said /vr/ was meant to be for nostalgia.purposes. You just apparently assumed that.

>> No.5820334

>>5820326
>we don't need all that traffic here
Honestly, I wouldn't mind /vr/ being a smidge faster.

>> No.5820338

>>5820326
Everyone agrees /v2k/ is a good idea, but it won't happen because that's too many /v/ boards apparently

>> No.5820347

>>5820318
>people are growing older, getting nostalgic over different things.
I'm nostalgic for Dark Souls, so what?

>> No.5820348

>>5820347
>nostalgic for Dark Souls
>when it's been rereleased like 3 times
Fucking how?

>> No.5820349

>>5820318
>>metaphorical arbitrary
Alright now I'm upset by your terminology lmao
>>5820329
>>5820326
Color me intrigued

>> No.5820370

>>5820334
Yeah, but not that fast. Youre talking gta, kingdom hearts, halo, resident evil 4, metal gear solid 3, katamari damacy, garys mod, etc... It would be madness.

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>>5820329

>> No.5820374

>>5820331
Oh please, most people on this board are people who grew up playing games.

People come back to older generations to either a) re live their childhood. b) experience what they missed in their childhood. Or c) talk tech and what tricks devs used to make games possible.

Literally look on this board and that's all you see besides trolls and the few odd miscellaneous threads.

>> No.5820381

>>5817543
why do you care?

>> No.5820391

>>5820348
I'm nostalgic for my own personal first playthrough, not release dates. I heard somewhere randomly, "leave... on pilgrmigame, to the land of ancient lords... Lordran" and got goosebumps something fierce. I'm 34 years old, mind.

>> No.5820392

>>5820370
Yeah and some of those posts are happening on v but not really and people who post on v aren't going to pack it to when the rules change. You're worried that people are going to trample you on their way to make threads about Katamari, Halo 2, and and Vice City? Those people are late boomers by v standards.

>> No.5820394

>>5820374
The trolls, they are just bait machines.
From the mgs is overrated to the nintoddlers and final fantasy shits. Im not sure whats worse the ff6 cultists or the ff8 delusionals.

>> No.5820395

>>5820276
The first 5 gens made signifcant leaps in graphics and game design every time, new genres were created, games did things that were previously not possible and controls/controllers were altered. They made radical changes, the same can't be said for everything after the 5th because the games did not make significant changes in design since the 6th gen, most genres control and play the same as they did in the 6th generation.

>> No.5820403

>>5820370
It would probably feel ridiculous for a while, but you make it sound like typical threads before it would have no place, and I doubt that. It's just the ability to talk about a whole generation of games we haven't been able to would create a rush of activity for a while. And honestly, I wouldn't mind it, I enjoy that generation as much as I enjoy the others. But I also agree with your previous point that if we keep moving what we say is retro, before long we really will be talking about Dark Souls and Gears of War and I won't be enjoying that.

>> No.5820408

>>5820395
This is an absolute boomer opinion. Six Gen games are a word apart from their 8th Gen counterparts. I get the gatekeeping from 4th to 5th Gen but your argument about games having been "practically the same" for 2 years doesn't hold a drop of water.

>> No.5820413

>>5820392
I was 9 when ps2 came out and i played dos and ps2 and nes. Ps2 is legit retro for anybody born in the 90s. With that being said, /vr/ should be limited. Look at /v/ its a dumpster fire. If we let gen /6/ in it will become a shit show. There is enough to talk about here without becoming to fast of a board. Nobody here wants a fast board. Life was slower back then, it fits the paradigm.

>> No.5820414

>>5820372
I'm 18. When I was 6 years old, I was playing the PS3. The PS3 is my childhood. But I don't think it or the PS2 are retro, because they don't look that different from current consoles. It's hard to describe but they're just isn't a big jump in graphics. I have a feeling that fellow zoomers feel the same way, and these PS2 guys are just trolling.

>> No.5820415

>>5820391
I didn't really mean to imply you were underage as much as I was surprised you could be nostalgic for something that's been given a second and third chance of life, the third one being...relatively recent.

>> No.5820426

>>5820374
Rubbish. People play generations 1-5 for many reasons but mostly because they have a lot of good fucking games. "experience what they missed in their childhood" - yeah only in the sense if they haven't played something in their childhood they have missed it, that goes for zoomers and everyone else included.

I think you should go away and not come back here if that's what you really think of older generation games. We don't need or want your sort and it's pretty unhealthy if you are in the minority that only plays the games "to relive childhood".

>> No.5820431

>>5820426
and I forgot to mention that plenty of zoomers come to /vr/, conduct themselves well, make good contributions and are indistinguishable at times from people who grew up with third gen as kids. There is literally no reason why a younger person would not want to play fourth gen onwards other than how it's not current.

>> No.5820435

>>5820415
That's my point: you can be nostalgic for things that are quite recent. The game dates from 2012, though. Rereleases don't count, though. What does it matter if Sonic 2 came out on Steam just a few years ago? I played it back in 1992, which is the only thing that counts.

>> No.5820438

>>5820119
That is the way foward. 6/7 gen is so radically different than 3/4/5 it just wont work. I know we allow 1/2 gen and pinball but really the fundamentals of the games aren’t that distant from the core 3/4/5 discussion we typically have. 6/7 is another animal, no matter how old it is.

>> No.5820439

>>5820413
>200 active threads right now
>less than 3 that are even related to anything below 7th gen

good shit, retard!

>> No.5820446

>>5820435
I understand your point a bit better now, but we'd really be moving the goal post around if we treated /vr/ like that. We might as well just be /v/ at that point, because what if someone was nostalgic for Minecraft? or Stardew Valley? I get you want to talk about them, but they don't really feel old enough to be retro.

>> No.5820452

>>5820446
And obviously that's absurd. But now that you're in this mindset, wouldn't it seem appropriate to allow discussion of a console generation that began over 20 years ago?

>> No.5820457

>>5820395
Graphically gen 6 to 7 is a big leap (with the exception of Nintendo) the introduction of HD graphics, to over saturation of the realistic, gritty, brown and gray aesthetic, (it existed beforehand but never to that extent)

Controllerwise, I can see what you mean. Controllers have very few changes (again with the exception of Nintendo) for Xbox the change from 6 to 7 was pretty much the same as NES to SNES in how the controller changed outwardly, whereas until gen 8 Sony never made any major changes to the feel of the dualshock.

In terms of genres, there are plenty of genres that changed between gen 6 and 7, and some genres have stayed the same or haven't changed much since they began. The only genres I can think of that are completely the same or are more like a comparison SNES RPGs to PlayStation RPGs are 3d fighting games, first person shooters, and character action games, are there more? Sure, probaby in some genres I don't play. But that's simply because gen 6 either perfected or nearly perfected those genres, just like gen 3 nearly perfected the 2d platformer only for gen 4 to perfect it, or for a genre to be made based on two series on separate console generations and not change since, or how top down shooters have been perfected forever.

>> No.5820458

>>5820452
Honestly, I've been dying to talk about 6th gen games here. I just feel like if we started, it would be no time at all before we started talking about 7th, which just feels too new to me.

>> No.5820459

>>5820446
I'm the one saying that nostalgia as well as retro 100% subjective, so we decide whose definition we're using and run with it. Since mods are using the 30+ guys' definition of "PS2 is not fucking retro", that's just it and there's nothing to discuss. When or if we have younger mods, we're very likely to get gen 6 accepted on /vr/ just like so.

There's nothing to fucking argue. God of War doesn't FEEL like retro to us thirty-somethings and never will. It doesn't matter how much time has passed. As long as we're a majority among the mods, PS2 stays a /v/ topic.

>> No.5820461

>>5820459
>>>/reddit/

>> No.5820463

>>5820439
Because its pointless to try. The thread will die a quick death. Do you think before you post? How new are you? Its always been the argument for gen 6 to come to /vr/ because you cant really have threads on /v/ about older games. That place is basically /b/. You are a legit dipshit.

>> No.5820465

>>5820461
Go back to bed, junior.

>> No.5820467

>>5820465
Generation/age wars belong on the appropriate subreddits/Facebook pages, not here.

>> No.5820471

>>5820467
That's exactly what I said, yes. Are you udner the impression that you're contradicting me? Did you even read my post?

>> No.5820474

Um...what exactly does the year of your birth have anything to do with whether or not a console is considered retro. This is a pretty objective, carved in stone thing and not subjective.

>> No.5820475

>>5818135
Nope. 2006-2011 was far worse than this generation. Brown and bloom everywhere, terribly optomized console ports with even worse DRM than what is in games today. After the PC FPS boom of 2000-2004 everything really went to shit. Nowdays there are some decent games. Hitman 2 was a better stealth game than ANYTHING that came out in that period (yes including blood money sue me.)

Now that 'Blockbuster games' are dying things are getting a lot better, albeit slowly and still with a lot of shit-piles being released.

>> No.5820479

>>5820458
Well we waited 20 years for 6th Gen, why wouldn't we wait 20 for 7th?

>> No.5820481

>>5820475
Even brown and bloom weren't as horrid as mascot platformers, Doom clones and throw-away point-and-clicks of the 90s.

>> No.5820483

>>5820463
>if we let 6th Gen on vr, all the v retards will invade the board!
>there is literally NO ONE discussing 6th Gen on v anyway!

wow you guys turn to muck-brains when you're mad.

>> No.5820486

To be honest I'm sure Atari shit was considered retro by the early 90s and that was only ten years past its heyday.

>> No.5820492

>>5820483
Because we used to try. Its been done and it doesnt work. How fucking stupid are you? Its not the lack of people that want to talk about 6th gen, its that there is no good place to do it. We've been down this road before, shit for brains.

>> No.5820496

>>5820486
Retro on this board is not a moving window of time.
Retro on this board refers to gaming from before the internet was ubiquitous, and the predominant design philosophies found in games from that era.
This isn't hard.

>> No.5820497

>>5820492
It's sad because it really would fit well around here. A Silent Hill 2 thread about 4 days ago lasted about 30 posts before dying, and 8 of them were just bump posts about articles on Team Silent.

>> No.5820501

>>5820492
wow what if we had a fucking retro game board to do it?

>> No.5820502

>>5820479
Yeah, the way I figure it is that if 6th gen gets in people won't want to talk about 7th gen here until the end of 9th gen and they can't find a place to talk about their stuff like 6th gen is now. And then they'll have to fight people here for a few years as well. And that's not even being generous, since 7th gen lived well into the 8th gen lifetime it could be the middle of the 10th generation of consoles that people begin calling 7th gen retro.

>> No.5820504

>>5820474
Me, I'm 31. I've never liked the games from my childhood (5th gen etc) or considered them truly retro in the sense that 8-bit stuff (my favorite era of gaming) is. But that doesn't mean they can't ever be discussed here because even if it's not my cup of tea, it's someone else's and I wouldn't want to selfishly deny them that. And I do feel after almost 20 years that PS2 games may eventually be allowed.

>> No.5820507

>>5820496
That does not answer my question. Why was Atari stuff considered retro at only 10 years old? I'm fairly sure I remember NES being considered retro by the PS2 era.

>> No.5820510

>>5820504
Ok, that's nice and all but you're a leborninthewronggeneration fag from Reddit who disdains your childhood games (the ones you should care about) for an era you didn't experience. That's even worse.

>> No.5820513
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5820513

How many of you guys don't get the problem with 6th gen discussion? If we do that, then all the 12 year old and dudebro Gaylo fans will come here. Do you want that? Because I don't.

>> No.5820516

I'm not sure threads about much older systems engender quality discussion here. For example try and make a thread about the Amiga and see how fast it devolves into screeching shitposting.

>> No.5820518

>>5820474
>what exactly does the year of your birth have anything to do with whether or not a console is considered retro. This is a pretty objective, carved in stone thing and not subjective.
What, the notion of "retro" is carved in stone? Are you retarded? It's as subjective as it gets.

>> No.5820520

>>5820496
The sticky directly references a console launch as a measuring stick for "new" old consoles being discussed. You're a manchild.

>> No.5820521

>>5820507
Most likely because in 1993 video games were only a bit under 20 years old. It was sensible to consider the Atari 2600 retro back then because there wasn't anything much older than it.

>> No.5820526

>games like KH2 and P4 were discussed on /v/ 10 years ago
PS2 will never be /vr/

>> No.5820527

>>5820459
The mods didn't make the board rules, our dear former "leader" did prior to his cutting and running from the website he founded. He didn't give a shit about vidya and basically just pulled an arbitrary date from a hat.

>> No.5820530

>>5820513
If it means I can talk about Silent Hill 2/3, Ape Escape 2/3, Star Ocean 3, Wild Arms 3, Disgaea, Devil May Cry, Samurai Western, and God Hand, I think it would be worth it.

>> No.5820531

>>5820501
It would just make /vr/ worse. We already have enough to talk about. Changing /vr/s name to /ver/ videogames early eras and /v2k/ which would be gen 6 and 7 ( which have huge catalogs). That would fix everything until the 10th gen. Then guess what? You have to change things to keep things running smoothly.

>> No.5820532

>>5820513
I discuss Devil May Cry and Resident Evil 4 on /v/ just fine. Dipshits tyring to bring their /v/ content here because nobody on /v/ wants to see their awful thread are just imbeciles.

More importantly, there is no metric of what "retro" means. We've decided that "retro" is "before the year 2000" and that's how it's going to stay until we get new mods who are younger.

>> No.5820537

>>5820513
Do you honestly still think this is 2003? Those people don't exist anymore.

>> No.5820538

>>5820507
Not him but I'll answer for him, and everyone else that ignored your question the first time because it's so dumb that it feels dirty to answer it.

Because you dunce, atari shit was substantially and fundamentally different to fourth gen and even third gen most of the time. That's why it was considered retro at the time. Sixth gen is often quite similar to even games now in many different respects, so it's not included. It's not a moving time frame.

And furthermore, even if modern shit was substantially different to sixth gen, that doesn't automatically mean sixth gen should be included, you could put it in nuretro or retro2k something like that.

>> No.5820541

>>5820527
Almost everyone on /v/ agreed with the rules, dipshit. There was a series of humongous discussions about what is and isn't retro. Finally GBC and Dreamcast were allowed while PS2 wasn't because most of us felt that was right. As long as we stay, the rule stays. When we leave or die off or shitty generals drive us away, this will not change.
What I'm basically saying is tha tyou need a coup not an argument. Arguments are worthless because of how subjective the topic is.

>> No.5820542

>>5820532
>>5820459
man at least hide your samefagging better

>> No.5820545

>>5820538
Not really. The kinds of games that were popular in the early 2000s and the way they were played was pretty different from now. That was a long time ago after all.

>> No.5820546

>>5820531
Yeah, change this board then dimwit. The answer is very, very rarely "this needs a new board!"

4Chan isn't growing.

>> No.5820547

>>5820541
>generals taking over /vr/
kek, the only one that ever survives is Doom, and that's just because of the new games, and constant new mods.

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>>5820542
It's called participation in a continuous fucking discussion, you barely-pubescent retard.

>> No.5820549

>>5820516
Nobody cares about the Amiga or 80s home computers except in the context of starting a US vs Europe war.

>> No.5820550

>>5820532
Be real, you dont have any good discussions about anything on /v/.

>> No.5820553

>>5820542
Is it me or do anons not even know what samefagging is anymore.

>> No.5820554

>>5820550
I have more good discussions on /v/ than on /vr/ because of you idiots.

>> No.5820556

>>5820549
Which is why we dont need more pointless wars like ps2 vs xbox. No fucking thank you!

>> No.5820557

>>5820504
Though if it were about what anon finds nostalgic, someone who is 30 probably had a PS2 as a kid, in fact a whole lot of people did.

>> No.5820561

>>5820556
That wouldn't be much of a contest anyway since the PS2 rather lopsidedly dominated its generation of consoles. There are few cases where it was a very close, competitive race outside SNES vs Genesis.

>> No.5820563
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>>5820554
Sure you do

>> No.5820565

>>5820557
I am 34 and I had a NES as a kid. I had a PS2 as a twenty-fucking-year old. When I played Devil May Cry 3, I was a family man. For me, that shit is not retro and will never be, and, for as long as I represent the majority on /vr/, PS2 will be off-limits.

>> No.5820569

>>5820561
Yet that doesnt stop people here from shilling the saturn 24/7.

>> No.5820574

Im a zoomer and wish i could play these retro games

>> No.5820576

>>5820563
Are you under the impression that /vr/ is somehow better than /v/ or something? This stopped being the case less than half a year after /vr/ was established. Nowadays /vr/ is a dumber shithole with more formulaic memeposting than /v/ by quite a margin.

>> No.5820579

>>5820574
Why cant you?

>> No.5820583

>>5820579
Because he's a zoomer. Can't you read?

>> No.5820585

>>5820576
>/v/ crossposters are the reason why /vr/ is shit
>but /v/ is somehow better than /vr/
Now you're just obviously trolling

>> No.5820586

>>5820565
This shit is the worst. Retro has nothing to do with your age or your "childhood" or any of that nonsense. It has to do with them being different types of games.

>> No.5820589

>>5820585
Who the fuck are you quoting?

>> No.5820594

>>5820589
Did you already forget you said you have better conversations on /v/? Dude, fuck off.

>> No.5820597

>>5820589
Wtf are you talking about? Its a common way of summing up posts. Thats how i know youre not from here.

>> No.5820598

>>5820594
Yes, I said that, but who were you quoting in the previous fucking line? The one that supposedly proves I'm trolling?

Are you feeling alright?

>> No.5820602

>>5820586
Otherwise you become your uncle Stu who said that music died in 1983 and just plays the same REO Speedwagon Greatest Hits album in the car every time he goes out for a drive.

>> No.5820608

>>5820598
Green arrows aren't used for only quoting. Are you new here?

>> No.5820609

>>5820597
He's not summing up my posts. He's just inventing stwarmen, and the standard response to that on 4chan is the one I made. Yous ad fucking newfag.

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>>5820598
You have to go back

>> No.5820617

>>5820561
Amiga vs Atari ST

Spectrum vs Amstrad

>> No.5820619

>>5820610
Unfortunately, the one who will have to go back is you. PS2 is off-limits on /vr/ and that's just it. I think this topic is on the verge of becoming bannable too.

>> No.5820623

>>5820586
Then why the fuck are you guys stopping gen 6 when it feels nothing like modern games unless the series originated from gen 6? 2d Mario feels like 2d Mario, 2d Zelda feels like 2d Zelda, so of course games from gen 6 that got sequels will feel like those games. You know what doesn't feel like a gen 6 game? Borderlands, Fortnite, red dead, literally all the god damn walking simulators out there on gen 7 and 8. And even with series that began on gen 6, they're now so unrecognizable with today's business practices that if those original titles were repainted and rebranded everyone would call them unique games that play like a classic (insert series here) game. Something that people say about indie games with 8 bit or 16 bit aesthetics.

>> No.5820624

>>5820619
You already ousted yourself, rebbit. Go home.

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>>5820609
Yes, he is. Youre not foolin anybody, guy

>> No.5820627

>>5820623
That's what I tried to tell them. 6th gen games aren't at all what recent vidya is like. I don't think anon realizes how long ago the early 2000s was.

>> No.5820637

>>5820617
No one cares about your irrelevant Zniggy computers though.

>> No.5820642

>>5820623
Literally every TPS these days is like RE4

>> No.5820645

>The only one who's been vehemently against 6th gen threads has been a rebbit troll
Nice. Hopefully we can talk about them soonish.

>> No.5820650

>>5820617
A while ago I was given an Atari ST and a box of about 30 disks. Almost all of the games were trash.

>> No.5820652

>>5820645
Although you're clearly an idiot, I kinda envy your youth, to be honest.

>> No.5820658

>>5820617
Those threads would just be arguing over which system had the worse port of Street Fighter 2 and Outrun.

>> No.5820660

>>5820623
Because the tranny jannies. Even 39 year old boomers think the rest of 6th gen and GBA should be invited to the party.

Seriously, PS2 has way more in common with PS1 than with PS3 or PS4. Gamecube feels like a more polished N64 and I have no idea about Xbox, only used it for an emulation machine.

>> No.5820662

>>5820637
The fact that zniggy is a thing, proves you wrong.

>> No.5820663

>>5820623
Because the 5th gen was the very first foray into 3d gaming, after the 6th it all got very different. So this is the space to discuss 5th gen and earlier. If you don't like it, you can leave. Can you even imagine all of the gamecube vs xbox vs ps2 stuff that would fill the board if they were allowed? Why is it so hard for you to understand that people just like this board the way it is and not flooded with later content?

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>>5820660
>Even 39 year old boomers think the rest of 6th gen and GBA should be invited to the party.
No, we clearly don't. That's your whole point of fucking contentions itt. Are you drifting off into some sort of denial now?

>> No.5820670

>>5820660
You could call it transitional in a way in that it was the last generation of consoles primarily designed to be used with a 480i CRT TV. HD support was still pretty rudimentary and most people didn't use it.

>> No.5820671

>>5820642
The fuck? How on Earth are modern third person shooters anything like RE4? RE4 has tank controls, no modern third person shooter uses tank controls. RE4 didn't have a fixed camera, that's it.

>> No.5820679

>>5820652
You're still pretty young new"friend." You also don't have to aggressively shit talk to fit in.

>> No.5820681

>>5817543
I do. I'm 22.

>> No.5820684

IDK but I will say if you limit the range of topics to 20th century vidya, you run out of stuff to discuss pretty quickly which I think is a definite problem with the board.

>> No.5820691

>>5820684
I kind of see your point, still, there's thousands and thousands of games in existence even with discussion limited to 1975-2000. I guarantee /vr/ has only discussed maybe 20% of all vidya released in that 25 year period.

>> No.5820694

>>5820520
>You're a manchild
And you still can't talk about 6th gen on /vr/ lol

>> No.5820701

>>5820684
It's impossible that the entire board runs out of topics to discuss. And if one personally doesn't have anything retro-related to discuss anymore, they just go to /v/.

>> No.5820702

>>5820694
lyl u still mad bro? XD

>> No.5820710

>>5820510
If you like the games you grew up with
>you're just blinded by nostalgia!
If you like games you didn't grow up eith
>you're just a poser!
???????????

>> No.5820717 [DELETED] 

>>5820684
There are single games made before 2000 that still have things being discussed about them dumbass. You never run out of things to discuss. The board may/will slow down over time - who cares? Getting flooded with sixth gen is only going to kill the pre-sixth gen part of /vr/ sooner.

>> No.5820719 [DELETED] 

>>5820691
That sounds nice on paper, in practice no since anyone who's been here at least a week knows 85% of /vr/ doesn't know or care about about but AAA Japanese console games.

>> No.5820724

>>5820684
There are single games made before 2000 that have active boards with things being discussed about them dumbass. You can never run out of things to discuss. The board may/will slow down over time - who cares? Getting flooded with sixth gen is only going to kill the pre-sixth gen part of /vr/ sooner.

>> No.5820729

>>5820719
Butthurt Euro detected.

>why won't you guys discuss James Pond and Dizzy why do you only care about that Nintenyearold weeb shit so unfair

>> No.5820734

I thought the main reason people didn't like 6th gen games was because the last PS2 games were out in 2014, thus allowing it would mean we have games under 10 years old here.

>> No.5820741

>>5820719
That's just blatantly not true. Unless games like Garou and the Madou Monogatari series and PC-98 visual novels are all "AAA".
If you're talking about western PC shit then no, no one cares about that shit, and rightly so.

>> No.5820742

>>5820691
That sounds nice on paper, in practice no since anyone who's been here at least a week knows 85% of /vr/ doesn't know or care about anything but AAA Japanese console games. Maybe Doom on occasion but that's about it.

>> No.5820753

>>5820734
That's a fair reason to dislike the idea, but those were released well after we all considered the PS2 dead. I mean the Wii still gets new games to this day and we all call it dead.

>> No.5820754

>>5820734
Yeah but nobody on here is trying to discuss FIFA 14.

>> No.5820757

Lots of zoomers grew up with handed down consoles or classic game collections on xbox360.

>> No.5820768

>>5820671
No, no it doesnt.

>> No.5820773

>>5820729
Us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPP_RcMdqW4

Them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-vq1MpCaIE

'Nuff said.

>> No.5820784

>>5820768
Yes, yes it does. Have you ever played RE4? The only thing modern third person shooters borrow from it is the camera.

>> No.5820786

>>5818986
Fuck off lmao

>> No.5820787

>>5820773
The SNES SF2 was brilliant for the time, still, you can play the arcade on MAME now.

>> No.5820798

>>5820773
That's sad considering especially how revolutionary that SF2's controls were for the time. There had never been a 1v1 fighter before it that wasn't incredibly stiff.

>> No.5820801

>>5818986
I can't stand people with arachnophobia, it's not even a real anxiety you're a demented fool.
>>5819814
Without servers and player base fortnite wont even be fortnite in 15 years >>5820257
>>5820053
Gaming Classics has a nice ring to it
>>5820264
Watching the battle royale game mode evolve into a full blow genre was interesting to say the least
>>5820275
There's at least going to be an evolution of their video game always emerging
>>5820561
The Xbox was a better console even though ps2 had a ridiculous amount of games and packed dvd playback out of the box.
>>5820660
Xbox feels like dreamcast's segacd or its spiritual successor.

>> No.5820807

>>5820773
A moment of silence for all the children whose birthdays and Christmases were ruined by US Gold.

>> No.5820809

>>5820741
>>>/a/
>>>/out/

>> No.5820818

You can try and discuss PS2 games on /v/. Good luck with it.

>> No.5820840

>>5819031
I think sarcasm and irony escapes you anon.

>> No.5820867

>>5820667
Anon, let me remind you that there are different opinions, not just yours. I don't discuss non vr here but the hard cutoff with only part of 6th Gen is retarded. All or no 6th is fine, let's get rid of DC or let in the rest. Right we can't because tyranny jannies.

>> No.5820876

>>5820275
>Kind of, yeah, though it makes me sick to my stomach that kids 20 years from now will be nostalgic for fortnite.
20 years ago, people were saying the same about Pokemon. It's the way of the world, anon. My nostalgia is always for things that are objectively great, younger kids' nostalgia is always for things that are objectively terrible.

>> No.5820884

>>5820876
Hence why so many actual boomers hate gaming right?

>> No.5820929

>>5818184
This is exactly why I'm 30 years old and people younger than me adore 80s bands. If it's good people will cone to it whenever.

>> No.5820940

>>5817543
I know plenty of kids who like older games.

>>5817549
They emulate or buy ports. Obsessive collecting is just for dedicated autists.

>> No.5820946

>>5818184
This is exactly it.

>>5818235
>>5818254
You're not special.

>> No.5820950

>>5817840
I used my dad's Atari 2600 he got when he was young in college. Combat is top tier multiplayer.
He broke me on the wheel with that game, and now I can dominate anyone else. Even invisible tanks with bounce. Well, ten years ago before it broke. I should challenge him again now that the field is leveled, but I need to fix the console first, though, and I'm not even sure if I know where it is now.

>> No.5820956

I'm 19 and grew up on Xbox 360. I support the jannies, fuck the zoomer trolls and the original Xbox should never be retro.

>> No.5820967

>>5820876
No, that's not it at all. That's just nonsense made up by people who think want to feel smarter than everyone else. Pokemon was good back then and it's good now. CS was casual crap back in 2000 and it's casual crap now. I really don't know how casual or not Fortnite is but considering Battle Royale which is a glorified free-for-all is the number one game mode the skill level can't e too high. Another thing is that Ninja was supposed to be the best Fortnite player ever yet he didn't even qualify for the fornite world cup. That doesn't happen with a game of skill, that happens with games that are very high in chance or where the players who play the most (and sometimes pay the most) get ahead. So stop with the bs.

>> No.5820968

>>5820530
Monkeys paw, anon. Better to just push the envelope yourself and accept the risks.
I say this as a guy that fell absolutely in love with Halo sp and mp and bought an Xbox and 360 as a result. OG Xbox is actually pretty based, to be honest.

>> No.5820969

>>5820742
PC games are a meme before about 1994.

>> No.5820974

>>5820967
Go watch Chinpokomon. You talking about fortnite is like listening to an adult express their outsider's perspective on pokemania.

>> No.5820975

>>5820969
They are a meme for burgers anyway since it was all just CGA bleeper trash back then.

>> No.5820976

>>5820968
It had JSRF, it can't be that bad of a console.
>We will never have UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND threads

>> No.5820978

>>5820975
See >>5820637

>> No.5820990

>>5820801
Don't try to publicly judge anyone ever again, you schizophrenic narcissist.

>> No.5820992

>>5820990
When did schizo take over sociopath in lefty mean-mean words?

>> No.5821001

>>5820992
I'm a right winger that ignores or stomps barefooted on spiders on the reg. Assaulting a basal instinct as "demented fool" behavior is retarded. On the level of saying the scientifically proven revulsion to seeing men kiss that heterosexuals experience just means they want to fuck men.
Then one looks at your post to seal the deal.

>> No.5821007

>>5820974
ok, I can see you have your narrative spun out for what gives you a nice feeling but objectively not the reality. The early Pokemon games on GB/GBA/DS have always been considered very high quality by journalists and others that are obviously not fooled by hype. Also I was almost an adult myself when Pokemon was in its heyday. On the other hand shittons after shittons of people who have played Fortnite a lot say that it's really hot casual garbage and journalists are writing about how casual it is. A lot of people call Overwatch casual but I defend its merit, so your silly larping doesn't work at all .

>> No.5821009

>>5820974
>literal boomers who don't play video games
Pokemon is a good game, they hardly even talk about the real series in the episode(the video games) and mostly parody the anime and merchindise.

>> No.5821013

>>5821001
So here recently, kay.

>> No.5821017

>>5821013
What a comeback. I'd tell you the year I'd arrived, but it'd be like hieroglyphics to your ass. Not to mention only newfaggots try to pull seniority for authority.

>> No.5821028

>>5817543
Yeah, I wonder how people born after 2000 look at games like Half-Life 1, Need For Speed 1-5, Baldur's Gate 1/2, Age of Empires 2, Diablo II or Heroes 3.

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mfw it’s the future and our brown overlords have banned retro video games because they don’t meet the quota for POC characters

>> No.5821032

>>5821030
>>>/pol/

>> No.5821034

>>5821030
>implying
When the spicoids take over with (((help))) there will be Sega consoles everywhere and bootleg ps2 games that let you stance your car and listen to salsa inspired reggaeton as Spiderman.

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Whoever strongly disagreed a few hours ago that /vr/ is legitimately worse than /v/ in terms of off-topic crap, memes and trolling these days better read this fucking thread and understand that I was right.

>> No.5821036

>>5821030
This is actually what I like the most about retro. There's no outcry that can change retro, it's all set in stone. They can rerelease retro games with PC edits, but the originals will always be around.

>> No.5821037
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>>5821035
>mfw late to the party heshe can't cope with the game over screen

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Here's the current top of /v/ for comparison. Somebody's posting screenshots of PC98 adventure games and is asking for recommendations, and in the thread above they're discussing fighting games.
Meanwhile, on /vr/ THIS shit is at the top, and the next thread is some child asking about the latest and greatest youtubers.

>> No.5821049

>>5821040
2 reddit threads and 2 doom threads at the top for me. Mixed bag. Maybe we just missed the deployment message for our detachment.

>> No.5821052

>>5821028
I can tell you that I don't particularly care for half life or the need for speed games, but I just recently tried baldurs gate and I'm enjoying myself so far. Bit slow at the start but I'm enjoying my time.

>> No.5821069

>>5821052
That shit is so much better with a friend. Unless that friend is a prick that tries to pick up all the loot and leave you with nothing.

>> No.5821071

>>5821069
What, Baldur's Gate? With a friend? Multiplayer existed as a joke feature in that, man.

>> No.5821075

>>5821071
On ps2 dark alliance 1 and 2 is probably what he is talking about.

>> No.5821084

So, I help with a retro gaming convention here in NY. Over 5k attendees this year, most of which were kids having a ton of fun.

So yeah, the interest is there.

>> No.5821085

>>5821075
I somehow think he's talking about the rpgs.

>> No.5821090

>>5821032
/vr/ is a redpilled board.

>> No.5821093

>>5820990
Fuck you dipshit
>>5820992
Whenever captain dipshit got to call the shots
>>5821001
>>Assaulting a basal instinct as "demented fool" behavior is retarded. On the level of saying the scientifically proven revulsion to seeing men kiss that heterosexuals experience just means they want to fuck men.
Yea, for future reference you're the fucking retard. >>5821017

>>5821069
Ah Diablo 2 all over again lol
>>5821075
>In b4 not retro
Splitscreen co op was the shit in the hayday before online was the norm
>>5821085
hasta be

>> No.5821280

>>5817723
>TMNT Hyperstone Heist

Why would you subject them to the worst version of Turtles in Time?

>> No.5821304

I would guess a lot of people still appreciate SNES and Genesis era games because there are a shit ton of indie games that try to be just like them. On emulator of course.

>> No.5821319

>>5821280
Cause its what I have

>> No.5821324

>>5821319
You're a terrible father.

>> No.5821331

>>5820532
>I discuss Devil May Cry and Resident Evil 4 on /v/ just fine.
devil may cry and resident evil are mainstream franchises with big fanbases on /v/. in contrast, most other 6th gen games would just get buried under the avalanche of 20+ smash threads.

>> No.5821359

>>5820475
>terribly optomized console ports with even worse DRM

To be completely fair, all game publishers prioritize consoles since consoles bring in bigger money. PC versions are more or less just charities where the publisher could squeeze a couple of extra dimes, unless the games are arbitrarily delayed ala Rockstar/Japanese games since they give their games a sense of mystique and prestige.

>> No.5821459

>>5817543
Nah, I'm a zoomer myself and I started to fall through the rabbit hole with Skies of Arcadia (wonderful fucking game, couldn't recommend it enough). Now I have a SEGA CD where I plan to play more RPGs.

>> No.5821546

Zoomer here to confirm it's not just nostalgia, games were better back then

I've played through these games recently
>Deus ex
>Croni-trigger
>Baldurs Gate

Literally the best games I have ever played by far, you can't beat great design.

>> No.5824126

I think that, in general, we're moving toward smaller, fragmented subcultures based around niche interests rather than one grand, unified "pop culture" (although I don't think that's going to disappear altogether). So I really wouldn't expect interest in retro gaming to just disappear, especially considering many of those games are just legitimately well-designed, fun to play, and have interesting aesthetics to them. You might have some reason to worry if the internet didn't exist, but it gives like-minded individuals some extremely valuable tools for getting in touch and forming communities around their odd interests as well as for preserving whatever it is that they happen to be into.

And if the enthusiasm dies down for a bit, there's no saying it won't come back. I mean, look at the new wave of traditional heavy metal for instance. The genre had been fairly dormant for a while, but it saw a resurgence partway through this decade. And that's just one genre of music, as opposed to the much wider net of "video games made before 2000".

>> No.5824142

>>5820513
halo is an ongoing series and has a general on /vg/.

>> No.5824145

>>5820438
In which ways do you think are gen 5 and 6 so "different"? Because 5 is MUCH closer to 6 than it is to 3 and 4.

>> No.5824148

I'm only 20 years old but I kinda want a SMS for some reason

>> No.5824163

My little brothers like to play old fighting games with me, but that’s about it. They fucking love SF2 and Samurai Showdown. I’ve tried to get them into the classic MM and Umihara Kawase games, but they aren’t too interested in old platformers.
>>5817549
If only everyone had a hacked vita and all the retro vidya on there, the world would be a better place.

>> No.5824189

>Ctrl+F
>boomer
>14 results
>zoomer
>22 results
Just euthanize /vr/ already, this board has forfeited its right to live.

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>>5820556

>> No.5824224

>>5817543
I wasn't born after '99 but I was born in 97 which is pretty close. I play a lot of retro games. I think people will at least always be emulating older games

>> No.5824297

Just the classics, e.g. Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Metal Gear Solid. I've seen lots of interesting titles on /vr/ lately though, so once my handheld backlog is finished, I'll only be playing retro games on my Vita.

>> No.5824302

https://youtu.be/KbEMU7sgkrQ


Could make a really good remake

>> No.5824316

>>5817543
>30 yo boomer here
thread immediately dismissed/hidden

>> No.5824320

We're basically the second generation where gaming became a thing.The obvious seperation being the crash before the NES. People will always be intrested in going back to Super Mario and seeing where it all began. The gameplay is rather timeless, and low commitment. I'd say it's more the XBOX and up that you should worry about getting lost in the slur. What we talk about is the birth of a new form of interactive media. New genre's were made left and right as technology allowed. Zoomers and whatever follows them will always give retro-games some sort of following. Especially with the internet now making it so easy to get your hands on older media, and form communities around them.

>> No.5824324

>>5817768
wow. im twice your age

>> No.5824360

>>5817543
Yep, I don’t have any of the consoles cause that shits expensive, but i play super Metroid at least once a week.
My rom library is getting to a gigabyte

>> No.5824393

>>5820374
Kys

>> No.5824457

>>5820091
Last millennium? Then it's retro.

>> No.5824461

>>5820091
>I don't understand why, 1999 for the cut off seems arbitrary, and that decision was made by at least 2014
Moot pulled the date out of a hat. He doesn't really have any interest in vidya and it was 100% arbitrary.

>> No.5824462

>>5820414
Based zoomer. You get it.

>> No.5824496

/v2k/ when?

>> No.5825056

>>5817543
in general I don't think they do, but I'm 27 and my 17 year old gf likes super metroid and old mario bros games after I introduced her to them (I play super metroid and hacks like 12 hours a day during summer)

>> No.5825120

>>5818986
>Right now I'm trying to beat the Thief games, but my arachnophobia won't let me. These are not stealth games, they are horror games.

i feel you anon. im slowly playing throught theif and i dont have phobia or anything but for some reason those spiders make my skin crawl.

>> No.5825121

>>5824316
Thanks for the bump, chump.

>> No.5825123

>>5817543
Who gives a fuck if they care. If fact i hope zoomers dont care because ebay prices will keep going up if they start collecting old games.

>> No.5825125

>>5820561
Therre were only two generations where the winner of the console race didn't win by a large margin, those being 4th gen (SNES vs MD) and 7th gen (PS3 vs 360). The victors of those generations were decided explicitly by which console dominated Japan, one of the largest game producing countries that historically only supports one platform.

>> No.5825324

I like old games but I was born in 97. It's a niche interest but especially if someone is really into a current series and wants more than what's on offer on more modern systems they'll turn to older stuff. That's how I got into the early Megami Tensei games and from there into dungeon crawlers in general. Similarly I've been really into Caves of Qud and it's making me want to take a look at other, more classic roguelikes.

>>5817549
Disagree. Collectors are cancer without a doubt but no one cares about pirating old games. I think with a lot of people they barely even realize it's piracy.

>> No.5825340

>>5817549
Who is doing that? Don't go conflating corporate interests with hoarding behavior of limited goods.
Piracy is the way to go in order to preserve the vidia heritage for future generations. Pay for current goodness where it is, and pirate it anyway. Pirate everything in all cases. Share the history, and screw the big studios trying to capitalize on retro feelings as well as on the work of talented people reverse engineering old consoles and games.

>> No.5825359

>>5817956
I was born in 1999 and mainly played NES and PS1 before getting into more modern consoles like the gamecube and gba

>> No.5825367

>>5817956
>born in 87
>played nes in ps1 era
>played play and n64 during ps2 era
>etc
I've always been at least one generation late, lol

>> No.5825397

>>5817543
What is the passion for retro games? People like good games and dislike bad games. There are retro games that are good, great, and some of the best of all time even.

Some people will definitely be passionate about "retro games" as a whole because there will always be people like that, just like how some love music made decades before their time, beyond classic hits. But others simply care about good games, and thus whether a game is from 2015 or 1995 is a pointless distinction to them.

>> No.5825442

>>5824496
Just male your own general in /vg/. But you won’t. This is all passionate protesting for the sake of protesting. Maybe if it was exclusively calling for GBA to be included in /vr/ then it would be a worthy argument.

>> No.5825496

>>5825442
Someone did make a 6th gen general once but it got deleted by jannies. It was actually kind of cool for a bit.

>> No.5825580

>>5825442
GBA when ?

>> No.5825932

>>5825580
Try and ask when 9th gen comes out, DC was allowed when the 8th did

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20 year old zoomer here
my first console was a ps1 :3
but i love most console gwnerations including nes and all of segas systems :)

>> No.5826048

>>5820475
>>5818135
I agree with both posts here. But I also notice history is repeating itself over and over again. Does anybody remember when there was Moralists on the right wing when it came to Death Trap in the 90's and Boomer Senators basically used this moralism as a ploy to look good? Or how they accused everything of being a sin? I mean it's reversed on the Democrats now and it being about virtue signal moralism to get rid of things because of "mah feels" and "inclusiveness". My point being that moralism is not one party but it comes back one way or the other. And it's no different than the Salem Witch trials.

Also as for 2006-2011 I do agree that there were positives such as the hugest leap in graphics that can not be replicated again and simplified control schemes. But the main issue I found was that everything was a FPS due to the COD craze hardly was there any unique titles and everyone chasing popularity was the start of the shit we would see in the PS4 era. With DLC's, another generic shooter, multiplayer games becoming the norm than single player story driven narratives etc. It was the gateway to it.

>> No.5826081

>>5826048
>>>/pol/

>> No.5826136

I want to say the 6th gen should eventually be allowed, but still I'm nervous about the prospect of allowing late period PS2 games from 2010-14 here.

>> No.5826201

>>5826081
/vr/ is a redpilled and conservative board.

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>>5826081
>He does not agree with my worldview that the left does nothing wrong and is always correct
>I have zero arguments against this balanced viewpoint
>Better redirect back to /pol/
LMAO. You should go on there Anon. Maybe you would not be so racist and closed minded if you learned about other cultures outside of your own.

>> No.5826275

>>5826136
I would say to give it another 5-7 years. Late in the PS5's cycle. Trust me we will be hearing about GameCube, PS2 and all the cool retro stuff from back then. Millennials will also be mature enough to shitpost the place.

>> No.5826280

>>5826275
*To NOT shitpost on this place.

>> No.5826294

>>5826136
>this meme again
The last "real" PS2 games were out in 2007. The only stuff made after that was EA sports updates.

>> No.5826318

>>5826201
how? its just a place to discuss retro games not politics

>> No.5826330

>>5826136
I'm 22 but only ever really played 5th/6th gen stuff. My family couldn't afford any console made after 2005 aside from the DS, and by the time they could I was past the peak period of my childhood where I had to have the newest things

To me, 6th gen belongs in the same breath as what came before it, rather than what came after it

The 7th gen coincided with the rise of stuff like smartphones and Youtube, whereas the 6th gen represents a simpler era before all that existed

>> No.5826363

I go to a retro event with people in their 40s-70s. They bring their kids who are like 8-13 and those kids enjoy retro games because daddy plays them. it's like discovering old records from your father and getting into 60s music.
that wasn't the case for me because my father never listened to music and doesn't have a single album but for some reason I was interested in old music all by myself and didn't need my parents to get into it like so many other people, so I believe there will be kids who are curious about games just as I was curious about music.

>> No.5826416

>>5826318
Precisely. We don’t inject politics or agendas such as homosexuality/trans mental illness when there is no reason to.

>> No.5826481

>>5817543
My 10-year old little brother is playing a bunch of retro games since I gave him my old Wii with a bunch of emulators and roms still on it. Granted, he's only interested in Nintendo IP's but he's clearly enjoying the games, no nostalgia involved.
I think you have other problems than retro games though, OP.

>> No.5826946

>>5826318
>its just a place to discuss retro games not politics
But it's a historical lesson about how politics effected retro games when they were new not how you should vote or what you should vote for. A person that learns through history tends to see patterns and like all things it repeats itself and takes on new forms because society never learns from its mistakes. That is all I said. It's not even political to be honest just a historical lesson if anything.

>> No.5826965

>>5825932
Well, that'll be within the next 3 or so years then, maybe by then there'll be some younger mods as well.

>> No.5826979

>>5826330
I feel the same man, 7th gen was the biggest culture shift in gaming since the crash.

>> No.5826989

>>5817768
38 year old zoomer here.
ive been emulating since before you were born.

>> No.5826997

>>5820372
I'm 34. I have tons of nostalgia for PS2, those were my teenage years. In fact, I have more nostalgia for it than any other system. Doesn't mean its my favorite system; I never stopped playing SNES, while I did stop playing PS2 regularly.

I'm also fine with no PS2 discussion here. I just hate losers who get triggered by it because they aren't actually into video games and only like old games because that's what they played when they were 10.

>> No.5827004

>>5826416
wtf? thats exactly what im talking about. keep your kooky third world pol politics off in /pol/

>> No.5827157

>>5825442
Honestly I feel like the GBA should be included due to its rather vintage games, however there's the pink elephant where it was released 1 year after the PS2, a console that changed the face of gaming forever.

>> No.5827161

>>5817543
There will always be a few hipster zoomers who will find an interest in retro games, but in 10-years from now most people won't give a shit about the SNES or n64 anymore. Nostalgia created the retro game fad, just like nostalgia created other collecting fads like baseball cards, vintage toys, comics and other attends for then boomers to recapture their youth. Except some kid born in 2004 has zero nostalgia for Chrono Trigger or Gunstar Heroes, and likely never will. Meanwhile, some guy born in 1985 who beat Chrono Trigger when he was 10 back in 1995 creams his pants at the simple mention of Lavos. However the nostalgic allure of these games is fading fast.

Fewer and fewer new collectors are entering the hobby, and eventually barely any will. Meanwhile a lot of long time collectors have been leaving creating more supply than demand. Prices are dropping; simply going on Price charting and seeing how most retro games are plateauing or trending downwards is proof of this, and it will probably on get worse.

>> No.5827164

>>5826997
>I'm also fine with no PS2 discussion here. I just hate losers who get triggered by it because they aren't actually into video games and only like old games because that's what they played when they were 10.
I am nearing 30 anon and i can actually agree with you on this. It kind of makes me want to play more older games on PC like Wizadry, and appreciate the PS1 and Saturn games i never had the chance to play because i was barely a teenager at the time. I always like hearing the older people talk here and give insight to what the times were like. It forces me to understand that there was more than just PS2 stuff, or even SNES. There were classics on Amiga, NES etc.

>> No.5827224

>>5827157
Can't be anymore egregious than having dreamcast but not the rest of the ensemble that killed it.

>> No.5827226

To an extent yes. I've seen zoomers on Twitter who are really into retro games and their aesthetic.

I've also seen a lot of Zoomers getting into classic simpsons recently and remixing scenes. Perhaps they got into it due to the steamed hams memes, but it's still cool they're into it, when for years I remember people kept saying that "Those born after 1990 won't like/get classic simpsons, it's too dated for them"

>> No.5827246

>>5826280
I think part of the "No 6th gen is not retro" feeling comes from older anons here being over 10 when 6th gen came out and it not being part of their childhood. I've noticed that for most people, the culture that came out when you were 5-10 is "the best"; anything before you were 5 is outdated/overrated, and everything after you were 10 is shit.

The same goes for people who are like "Well 6th gen feel retro since it was still muh childhood, but not 7th gen no way never."

>> No.5827516

>>5817543
2 years old babie here, love retro shit

>> No.5827709

>>5827161
>Nostalgia created the retro game fad, just like nostalgia created other collecting fads like baseball cards, vintage toys, comics and other attends for then boomers to recapture their youth.
Dumbass collectorfag. You can actually play games. Basketball was invented in 1891. Ass. football (soccer) was standardized in the 19th century. Stratego was published in 1947 and based on a game from 1910, and is still played today.
Much better analogies are music or movies, where there are always kids who will discover music from decades past and enjoy it.

>> No.5827721

>>5827226
Blame Argentineans for that, in latinamerica in general but argentina in particular rerunning old simpsons episodes was a cheap way to fill airtime so every kid up to 15 years old can recite you the first 15 seasons from memory.

>> No.5827734

>people still arguing about PS2
If Dreamcast was added to /vr/ when the 8th console generation started, then we can safely assume that the other 6th generation consoles will be added once the 9th generation starts.

>> No.5827750

>>5827246
It's more that 6th gen unambiguously on the modern side of the major turning-point in 3D vs 2D game design. The 6th gen was the first generation where 3D graphics was the standard for all new/popular games, and the most popular game of the generation was the open-world Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. (In Nintendo world you had Smash Bros. Melee)

Prior to 6th gen, hardware improvements had always been a driving force in changing paradigms of game design. While it would be an overstatement to claim that technical limitations were gone by 6th gen, improvements since then have been more incremental and innovation has been less driven by hardware improvements.

>> No.5827781

>>5827750
>unambiguously
lol
PS1 is unambiguously a 3D console. Its 2D graphics are unambiguously rendered with a 3D pipeline and not a traditional 2D pipeline. I don't need to say anything for the N64, and the Saturn was a failure.
GBA on the other hand was unambiguously traditional 2D hardware, but it's not allowed because.
The only reason the cutoff is placed at 1999 is that the number is 1999. There is no other reason. You people have turboautism and you place emotional and historical significance on numbers.
If baby jesus was born 6 years earlier, and the PS1's jp release date was the year of our lord number 2000, you would exclude it as obviously not retro.

>> No.5827787

>>5827750
>the most popular game of the generation was the open-world Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Well, I guess that and World of Warcraft. But that just reinforces the point. World of Warcraft is an open-world theme park MMO released on a stable and largely jank-free 3D engine. Blizzard was able to maintain mainstream popularity for WoW for many years without any major graphical overhauls or upgrades, just minor incremental improvements. And sure it looks a bit dated, but it doesn't look bad and mechanically it's got everything it needs. Even if you were to do a graphical overhaul to WoW it would still be the same game. Changes to the game have not been driven by the advance of technology.

>> No.5827818

>>5827246
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that many games on PS2 are still discussed on /v/ at times. Silent Hill 3, 2 Metal Gear Solid 2 and subsistence also let us not forget Ico and Shadow of the collusus, Billy Hatcher and Ape Escape are usually well known and would cause millennials to come here. Many millennials did grow up with PS2 and still can talk about it to this day including remakes etc. But I hardly think now is the time to rise it up. It's obvious what damage it will cause. Especially because it's still not retro.
>>5827781
>The only reason the cutoff is placed at 1999 is that the number is 1999. There is no other reason.
To gatekeep faggots who should hang themselves and drink Bleach like you.

>> No.5827827

>>5827787
Both games were popular but I would argue EverQuest started a lot of the MMO interest in the first place due to its popularity a long with second life. It kind of proved that games with a social atmosphere can become a thing.

>> No.5827831

>>5827818
>gatekeep
/vr/ is the dumbest, zoomiest old games community on the internet. Who are you keeping the gates from?
just look at this fucking thread. over 300 fucking posts, all about zoomers.

>> No.5827838

>>5827831
T. /v/tard.

>> No.5827846

>>5827838
that's what's so funny about you dipshits. you think this place is respectable because your point of comparison is /v/.
anybody who calls you out for being retarded? they're obviously from /v/.
so you circlejerk over your ridiculous undeserved sense of superiority because you're better than the shittiest *conventional* video game board on the internet

and you'll stay stupid forever because you respond to criticism with retard fury and keyboard diarrhea
it's been like that on this board since the start
'gatekeeping'
like a hoarder gatekeeping his cockroach infested pile of trash
what a fucking joke

>> No.5827854

>>5827781
(a) Cutting off 5th gen would be fine, frankly. I certainly wouldn't miss the vast majority of Playstation and N64 threads. But you have to be a complete imbecile to not recognize substantial differences between the early 3D for typical Playstation games vs the mature 3D for the average PS2 game.

(b) The 5th gen consoles are 3D consoles but they are mostly shit at it. It was the first generation with real 3D capabilities and It's all low-poly garbage. Even the smoothest and most aesthetically sensible games like Ocarina of Time look like garbage now unless you're nostalgia-blind, and many games are awkward as shit with weird camera controls like Xenogears, or fixed. The only 5th gen console to ship with an analog stick at release was the N64, and it only came with one. Playstation didn't introduce what would become the standard dual analog sticks until 1997-1998. Meanwhile 6th gen 3D games only look bad if the art style was bad in the first place, and all consoles shipped with dual analog sticks from the beginning.

Early and mid-90s 3D games on PC were still experimenting with control schemes and limitations. You still had new games using strictly 2D engines including Dungeon Keeper, Fallout, Baldur's Gate, and Starcraft. 3D games like Everquest that came out right at the end (literally in 1999) are very awkward and do not hold up well at all mechanically or graphically. Note how, by 2003, Blizzard was using a 3D engine for Warcraft III despite the mostly 2D gameplay style.

>The only reason the cutoff is placed at 1999 is that the number is 1999
The line has to be drawn somewhere for autists who can't handle the concept of a blurry boundary.

>> No.5827883

>>5817549
Based truth poster

>> No.5827895

>>5825941
You're 20 years old? Get out of here and get laid.

>> No.5827913

>>5827827
It absolutely did. It was an extremely successful game and one of the few old-school MMOs still alive today. But it's also a jank-ass old 3D game that no one in their right mind would want to imitate technically and mechanically (except maybe the server code). EQ has some good lessons as far as fostering a community but the conditions under which it succeeded probably couldn't be replicated today as there are dozens of other options for social gaming. Look at gameplay footage of modern EQ and it's going to be a garish mess of low-poly 1999 character models with more modern options, inconsistent environments, effects, and enemy models, and bolted-on UI elements.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but if you watch recent gameplay footage of World of Warcraft from the most recent expansion, it looks and plays very much like it did in 2004, at least on a basic mechanical level. Obviously there are many features and gameplay tweaks added over the years and the experience of playing modern WoW is vastly different, but those changes aren't a result of technical innovation. Meanwhile, if you play Everquest you could see dramatic graphical and mechanical improvements in the first few expansions alone. The difference between classic Everquest(1999) and the Planes of Power expansion (2002) is dramatic.

>> No.5827915

>>5827846
anon are you ok

>> No.5827924

>>5827781
>The only reason the cutoff is placed at 1999 is that the number is 1999. There is no other reason. You people have turboautism and you place emotional and historical significance on numbers.
You are stupid. The line is being drawn for many other reasons, maybe the year 1999 was chosen over say 1998 due to being a nice round number, who gives a shit. Yes round numbers are sometimes nice, we're human. Only someone turboautistic in the extreme to the point where all logic gets blacked out would say something like "There is no other reason.".... no other reason, really. .

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>>5817543
I am 22 years old now. I started collecting when I was 12 so the year would have been 2009. I have always been a huge gamer playing EVERYTHING retro to modern. In my teens I started to focus primarily on retro, no nostalgia, nothing. I found the games to be more appealing in every way. Music, graphics, colors, gameplay, less-linear, more difficult etc. I own consoles from every generation at this point and quite a few rarities as well. I was actually playing Terra Diver (Soukyugurentai) on my Sega Saturn last night with S-Video on my beautiful JVC television with component support as well! As a gamer that has played just about everything I think these older games are the heart and soul of gaming, even without nostalgia. My two brothers are big gamers but stick to the modern stuff and they always joke about how silly I am for playing old shit. Occasionally they will pick up a classic but never delve deep. The game that truly caught my attention as a young teen was Thief. Ever since retro gaming has been my hobby. Hell I didn't even grow up with Arcades but when I was 20 I built my own cabinet and loaded it with a few thousand games! I love everything about retro gaming and have almost no nostalgia for it!

TLDR: I am only 22 and my hobby is retro gaming. No nostalgia here.

>> No.5828375

>>5820818
OG xbox threads tend to go extremely well.

>> No.5828450

>>5817543
>cars (2006) duvet
The person in that picture is a zoomer

>> No.5828515

>>5817543
>Only someone turboautistic in the extreme to the point where all logic gets blacked out would say something like "There is no other reason.".... no other reason, really. .
I don't hate you for being autistic

>> No.5828618

anyone else just hoarding boatload of roms and never actually playing them? I like the idea of preservation but I find it hard to get into retro gaming
t. 25yo

>> No.5828629

>>5827946
Thanks for the good post. I'm 34 and OP is an isolated whiny embarrassment to our generation.

>> No.5828642

>>5817543
Retro can mean a lot of things.

For a lot of 18 year olds retro would mean PS2, XBOX360, etc.

How old do you guys go? Oldest game I play regularly is probably 1979 Galaxian, then a bunch of early 1980's games like 1984 Star Fleet I: The Battle Begins. Star Fleet I: The Battle Begins is a hugely expanded version of the ancient 1971 game 'Star Trek', which was passed around in every single BASIC programming magazine in the country back then, probably the very first "hit video game", everyone with a computer ran it back then. Star Trek 1971 is still a fun time for a few minutes, definitely worth checking out for historical reasons.

For a lot of "retro gamers" games only go back to the NES. Anything earlier is some weird abstract pixel art they don't understand.

>> No.5828654

>>5828642
>>How old do you guys go?
NES, Genesis, not Atari and not Atari

>> No.5828695

>>5820245
>But the zoomers aren't going to barrel in when we're suddenly allowed to discuss Mister Mosquito.
That's not the (only) point. The point is what has been explained but you're summarily rejecting it mostly with an appeal to an "every generation feels the same about their games" fallacy.

Look at a PS2 game like Final Fantasy XII. Now look at a recent JRPG like Xenoblade Chronicles 2. They both have similar mechanical foundations. Both games involve running around a 3D environment and engaging in real-time battles with abilities on cooldown timers and AI rules for party members (the technical details of each system are arbitrary and have nothing at all to do with technological progress). In 1999, a game like FF12 would have been extremely unlikely to have been viable at all even with downscaled graphics. In 1995 it would have been impossible.

Souls games, for another example. You could hypothetically downscale those games to the PS2, but for PS1 you'd be really pushing it and beyond that it's impossible. It would require dual analog sticks (not guaranteed for PS1). Ocarina of Time on N64 is the closest to a Souls game mechanically and it's still a bit janky given that the N64 had only one analog stick. Prince of Persia 3D, Quake 2, Bushido Blade... those games all have very flat, boxy environments and obvious mechanical limitations compared to Souls games.

>> No.5828741

>>5828695
y'all missin out

>> No.5828760

>>5827161
>Reddit pasta.

>> No.5828768

>>5828654
You are missing out. There are a lot of Atari 2600 games that are absolutely addictive and amazing. You need to expand your horizons.

The best way to "click" with Atari 2600 games and other potato graphic arcade games is to log your scores. The first time you play these games your score will be garbage. But if you keep trying to beat your score, then all of a sudden you'll notice that your new score is 10x your first score. As you get better and better the games get more and more fun and eventually it becomes a real challenge to try to beat your highest score. It's heaps of fun.

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>>5817723
>>5818221
Goddamnit, this is all I want in life.

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>>5828642
I would say n64 and ps1 is the cutoff of retro.
Retro games work around the low fidelity and hardware limitations, often leaving the user’s imagination to fill in the gaps. Games like silent hill’s fog to hide render distance for example.
N64 had botchy hardware that is absolutely frustrating to emulate, which I think qualifies it for retro quirkiness. Although games like OoT or DK64 were able to be quite expressive and visual with their worlds.
Modern consoles are luxurious for developers now, most probably don’t need to understand the hardware since they have APIs and engines for that.

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>>5820276
1st and 2nd gen consoles get very little attention at all beyond historical curiosity. Some of the games are still good but are extremely primitive by modern standards, far moreso than even 8-bit consoles which at least had viable platformers and shoot em ups.

Notice how before 1997 or so, you have massive shifts. You have the huge shift from arcade to consoles. you have the surge in platformers during the 80s and 90s followed by one for fighting games. You see text adventure games disappear almost entirely. But then after the late 90s, you mostly have gradual trends with just a little noise, until an increase in puzzle games around 2007 (probably on handhelds and mobile. The 1st gen iPhone was 2007)

Pre-2000, those changes are closely related to technological innovation. Post-2000, those changes are more about demographics and changing trends. And honestly this graph probably uses some terms that make the progression through the 80s and 90s into the 2000s more homogeneous than it really is. "Eye of the Beholder" and "Ultima Underworld" are probably both classified as "RPGs" despite the latter signaling the death knell of the former.

>> No.5828831

>>5828741
No I think it's just that due to the nature of discussion and the sheer number of games we're talking about, generalizations are necessary.

And of course the point is you have to draw the line somewhere. It's not like I haven't played 6th gen games I'm just fine talking about them on /v/ or on /vr/ when they are specifically relevant to a discussion about some other retro game.

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>>5817543
I was born in '96 and adore classic RPGs.
Not pictured: amiga 500, famicom, genesis, sms, more.

>> No.5828897

>>5828896
oh and an atari 2600
But the only game I really love on it is river raid. Missile command is also kind of fun.

>> No.5828902

>>5828801
Daily reminder that the 2600 is an 8 bit system utilizing a reduced 6502.

>> No.5828904

>>5828642
10 years has always been my standard, as it was the standard among my community when I was playing games in the late 80s & 90s.

>> No.5828959

>>5828768
They should be remade if they're so good. Atari is still in business, their latest play seems to be a remastered Ghost Busters..
>>5828831
I hate taboo

>> No.5829139

>>5828618
Literally every emufag on the board

>> No.5829198

>>5829139
The only reason people have huge collections of roms is that it's been the only reliable way to get them for awhile now. Plus it's cool to see someone talk about a game here that you've never heard of before and be able try it immediately. Someone brings up say, Tower of Druaga in a thread about Legend of Zelda and I can just fire up MAME and be playing it in minutes.

>> No.5829234

>>5827946
I live retro. Volvo 240, Roland d-50/mt-32 synths, the works.
>>5828768
river raid is the only addictive 2600 game
>>5828959
>atari is still in business
in name only.

>> No.5829256

>>5828904
It's interesting to look at "actual retro" games. For a new game to be "retro" it has to be able to convincingly imitate the older fashion. Shovel Knight and Mega Man 9 are retro games. You can look at either one of those games and immediately recognize the era they evoke (8-bit NES). Meanwhile, how would you convincingly evoke the style of games made 10 years ago? How would you imitate the era of Grand Theft Auto IV, Afro Samurai, and Final Fantasy XIII?

It's much harder to pinpoint videogame fashion now, which is necessary in order to really have a concept of "retro." 10 years is usually easy in clothing fashion because women are always changing fashions every couple of years (although some things just become the new normal, like Yoga pants). In 1990 wearing bell bottom jeans would be retro. In 1999 wearing teased-up hair with bangs would be retro.

10 years used to be easy in videogame terms because hardware advanced so rapidly. Now, it only works with specific games you might have played in your past. Dark Souls or God of War III might be nostalgia for you and thus feel retro. But that is just your personal experience with those two specific games. It's not like a clothing fashion that was everywhere for 2-3 years then vanishes overnight as soon as a new fad comes along.

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what gets me most about retro games is that the current generation of gamers haven't played what was considered 10/10 at the time.
like no one knows about super metroid and the only ones that played oot were on 3ds.
this is about to be the minecraft and fortnite generation.

>> No.5829290

>>5829198
It really is great when you hear about a good game and get to play it within minutes. My collection is small but damn good because trying on actual hardware let's you only buy your favorites instead of random crap that you might not like. Also you don't feel like you have to buy ridiculous priced games since you can just play them.

>> No.5829298

>>5824324
wow

>> No.5829308

>>5829268
38 year old and believe me, minecraft is the fucking bees knees, especially on a good multi-player server. It captures the feel of team fortress or counterstrike back in dial up days. You can lose yourself in this shit and make some cool online friends. I have friends from every continent besides Africa and Antarctica that I takk to weekly even after not playing it for a few years. Just bask in the community of some random multi-player server and its 1997 internet wonder again.

>> No.5829318

>>5829308
Eventually there will be unofficial private fortnite servers.. *sniffle

>> No.5829378

>>5829198
Well I know that's not true because I've had huge collections of ROMs for a long time, but thanks for playing

>> No.5829389

>>5829234
For a twenty two year old I live pretty retro myself. I drive a 97 Pontiac Grand AM coupe, my favorite music is all 80's synths (New wave, goth) and we could go on about the great movies; most of them. I just got a MIDI cable for my Yamaha and i'm very excited to start messing with some synths!

>> No.5829404

>>5817549
based, redpilled

>> No.5829550

>>5829256
My community when growing up in the 90s never considered Retro to be just a certain style, but of a time period. Because we always saw that it was a moving window. Back to the Future for example is a movie trying to invoke retro, American Graffiti, hell Star Wars. Even recently with a movie like Captain Marvel trying to invoke retro.

So yes, eventually GTAIV, Afro Samurai, & FFXIII will be retro and will have their styles invoked.

>> No.5829559

>>5829550
>Star Wars
You had me until this righ har

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>>5829559
it does invoke retro

>> No.5829654

>>5829649
You do realize that when it was made, and the theme and all that, evokes a futuristic sense, right?

>> No.5829681

>>5829654
And you realize while Flash Gordon was evoking the future, Star Wars was invoking Flash? A retro thing?

>> No.5829692

>>5817723
Same here. My wants to see/play the games I played as a kid. He likes Double Dragon 2, Sonic 2, Fire & Ice, Mega Man and Turtles in Time on SNES.

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>>5829681
>invoking

>> No.5829987

>>5820609
Anyone referring to fallacies by name is an absolute fool not worth engaging.
"That's a strawman!" "That's a something-or-the-other fallacy!"
Congratulations you correctly (or not) identified the debate club 101 buzzword, what does it add to the actual debate? Nothing. You have to do it to pad your post because otherwise it basically boils down to "NO U".
There's absolutely no merit in recognizing and pointing out those fallacies anyway since they are the most elementary, so it only makes you sound like a smartass and adds absolutely nothing to your post.
And the typos make it look like you angrily typed that, to boot. Reeks of Twitter.

>> No.5829996

So far, no one explained why 6th gen is so different from 5th gen that it doesn't warrant being called "retro", despite being much closer to it than 5th is to 4th gen.

Differences between 4th and 5th gen
>2d vs 3d
>sprites vs polygonal graphics
>whole new game genres were created, others faded into obscurity
>online gaming (PC only)

Differences between 5th and 6th gen
>better graphics
>online is no longer exclusive to PC

Similarities between 5th and 6th gen
>Physical media based
>Played at CRTs, in standard resolution
>Pure gaming devices, no virtual stores or other things to make consoles budget computers
>Gaming dominated by single-player and local multiplayer. Online games are a niche.

>> No.5830174

>>5829996
Few more differences:
>hardware differences between consoles were much more distinct during 5th gen
>resolution was limited to 480i in 5th gen, while 6th gen could support 480p up to 1080i in rare cases which was intended for more modern displays
>arcade hardware was no longer significantly superior during/after 6th gen

Personally I don't feel too strongly about the 6th gen issue. Then again, I'm one of those who prefers the pre-/vr/ retro threads /v/ used to have over current /vr/. I can see how 6th gen threads have a hard time surviving /v/'s high traffic though.

>> No.5830193

>>5817549
TRUTH

>> No.5830198

>>5830174
>resolution was limited to 480i in 5th gen
Only in very few N64 games. 240p was the standard resolution.

>while 6th gen could support 480p up to 1080i
Support for anything over 480p was extremely rare, and non-existent on the PS2.

>> No.5830202

>>5817768
>>5817543
>makes a thread asking eachother if zoomers like retro games
>immediately shit on and chastise a zoomer for showing interest in such things
You all are a bunch of cretins

>> No.5830316

>>5829996
>So far, no one explained why 6th gen is so different
Jesus fuck everything in that post has already been addressed. Stop being so fucking dense.
(a) Allowing 5th gen might have been a mistake.
(b) The standard dual-analog controllers for 3D console games were only just introduced in 5th gen, most games weren't designed for them and are thus substantially different from 6th gen and onward. 5th gen is early 3D. 6th gen is mature 3D.
(c) CDs to DVDs. It's a big leap. 2GB Games like Final Fantasy VII were exceptional during 5th gen, and FF7 doesn't even use pre-rendered audio. Most games fit on a single CD.
(d) SD to HD graphics (from 6th to 7th) is entirely an issue of fidelity. Yes HD games look much crisper and clearer than SD games, but this has basically no gameplay implications.

5th generation was the turning point for 3D. At the beginning of 5th gen (~1996), 3D games were fairly rare, limited to specific genres and usually featuring substantial limitations in the 3D environments possible to render and control schemes. 5th gen 3D games tend to feature lots of flat surfaces and geometric shapes, primitive combat systems, tank controls, and awkward camerawork.

5th gen still had prominent 2D games like Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Mega Man 8, X4 and X5. Many games relied heavily on 2D style and game design such as Wild Arms. Final Fantasy VII uses pre-rendered backgrounds and a single 3D model in place of a sprite, which can be scaled up and down to appear as if it's moving in 3D on the pre-rendered image. You rarely see anything like this in 6th gen. It's all just straight 3D. I can't find a single 2D platform game for the PS2. They are ALL 3D games.

Mega Man went on hiatus for 6th gen, returning during 7th gen in retro NES style. Castlevania went to handelds and 3D. Mario and Zelda remained in 3D for Gamecube. Metroid went First Person.
>So far, no one explained why 6th gen is so different
2D was dead.

>> No.5830349

>>5820486
Technology and game design was advancing far more rapidly making it easier to distinguish the age of a game. A standard atari game was a static/single-screen score attack game with extremely primitive, blocky graphics and bloopy sound. Look at these games from different eras, each released 6 years apart:

Pitfall! (1982) vs Super Mario Brothers 3 (1988)
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion (2006) vs Dragon's Dogma (2012).

>> No.5830353

>>5830316
2D was massively downplayed during 5th gen, derided as old and obsolete. Everyone only cared about 3D. There were devs that wanted to make 2D games that were forced to switch to 3D due to publisher/consumer pressure. As the gen marched on, 2D games became rarer and rarer, 6th gen just continued the trend.

>> No.5830382

>>5829996
>>Gaming dominated by single-player and local multiplayer. Online games are a niche.
World of Warcraft is a 6th gen (era) game. Calling that a "niche" is a bit of a stretch.
But yes, the biggest technological shifts between 6th and 7th gen was the maturity of online gaming for consoles. 6th gen online games is somewhat akin to the 3D games during 5th gen. Consoles had online (3D) capabilities and popular online (3D) games like WoW (Quake) existed, but it wasn't until the next generation that it would become the standard for all games.

It's not quite the same though, because online multiplayer is a relatively minor change compared to the massive fundamental design differences between 2D and 3D games. The current Battle Royale trends with games like PUBG and Fortnite are fads not revolutions. The most influential/revolutionary game in the last 10 years is probably Minecraft, which is almost entirely a creative/intellectual advancement not a technological one. (Some technological advancement was probably required to enable the scope of building in an online multiplayer game like Fortnite but that is an incremental change)

>> No.5830393

>>5825367
Yo recién tuve una play 1 a los 18 años jajajaja

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>>5830353
So? The games were still made in 5th gen, but not in the 6th gen. You seem completely unable to grasp the rather simple concept of a turning point and why someone might choose to draw the line after the turning point and not at the start of it.

>> No.5830437

>>5829308
Kill yourself. There's nothing exciting about the combat that a million of FPS games or exploration games don't do better. There is nothing in its creative mode that is remotely impressive or innovative either. You like it because people are there. Go to a chat room, faggot. Minecraft is for autistic children

>> No.5830528

>>5829987
>tfw babys mad because he was too retarded for the debate club

>> No.5830537

>>5830528
Just look at how people use it on forums on twitter nowadays, man. They always get them wrong, or at the most basic level, and keep naming them like if they were using fucking Yugioh cards. "Aha! You activated my ad hominem trap card!"
It's not the concepts it's how people use them.

>> No.5830547

>>5817549
get a load of this marxist faggot

>> No.5830563

>Holy shit!!! There are so many zoomers here! They keep talking about games that came out before they were born! This place is fucked!!!!

...

>Zoomers don't play retro games right?

>> No.5831886

>>5818135
I streamed bioshock to a nvidia shield the other day just to test it.
Surprisingly it worked really well.
I would rather just fucking have the game though.

>> No.5831960

>>5831886
Streaming throughout your house seems cool doe

>> No.5831982

18 yr old zoomer here. It depends on the game really. I can always appreciate something with basic mechanics and solid gameplay like Flicky or Streets of Rage for instance, but if the game is complicated enough that I'm gonna have a hard time getting into it unless I have a manual or a walkthrough, I tend to not play it.

>> No.5832017

>>5830537
>reddit and twitter are stoopid so every word they use is wrong
lel
>Yugioh cards.
Found yer problem
>It's not the millennia old common sense it's how people use them
To show how your adhominems ans strawmen are retarded? I'm trying to be as nice as I can right now. You sound like either a very young or very low IQ person. Probably both. Either way. Best go back to chatting with grandma on facebook.

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>>5817543
19 Year Old Zoomer here. I've been playing retro games since as long as I can really remember. I remember the main games I played as a kid was Kingsley's Adventure, Mario Land 2 and Bugs Bunny Lost in Time. The main reason behind that was I lived in a semi-eastern/Central European country (Czechia) where a lot of tech was kinda backwards by like 2-4 years, so a lot more people used VHS than DVD players and whatnot. I pretty much grew up on VHS tapes and PS1 games. Unfortunately my Mom got rid of all my brother's N64 games before I was even born because she thought vidya would be a toy fad that would pass away and to this day is still surprised at the mainstream success it got. Either way, I actually did play a few N64 games when I was a kid because I downloaded Projekt 64 on my parent's computer.
Really I'd argue a lot of kids that lived in poorer countries are experiencing retro vidya to this day. It's true that in richer countries most kids are just playing newer stuff, honestly it really depends with how people's families are raised. More spoiled kids are more likely to act like retarded zoomers honestly. In my eyes, Retro will never die. No matter how much time passes, as long as games are accessible, everyone will play older games and enjoy them.

Weirdly enough my older brother loathes retro games and always goes for the "newer" looking games, especially Ubishit related stuff like Assassin's Creed and whatnot.

Also with regards to the debate about Retro PS2 vidya, just make a /v2k/ board. I feel that's the easiest solution.

>>5820475
I disagree, 2006-2009 had some okay vidya. 2010-2011 was pretty bad though.

>>5818986
Aren't you that Arachnophobia anon from that one /doom/ thread?

>> No.5832794

>>5832772
Arachnophobia isn't a real anxiety, fuck off my spiders or you'll be the next thing webbed up and eaten for weeks.

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>>5832794
I like Spiders tho, you're quite honestly barking at the wrong tree.

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>>5820801
>>5818986
>>5820801
>>5832794
>Muh anxiety

>> No.5832832

>>5829308
>It captures the feel of team fortress or counterstrike back in dial up days

ah yes minecraft good game brings me back to the good old times when I whacked blocky trees for half a hour to build a shitty hut *sip* they don't make games like that anymore

>> No.5832837

I was attacked by a dog when I was 4 and i've hated them ever since but I still managed to beat RE1. Spidertards have no excuses

>> No.5832850

>>5830437
There are a lot of people here who would have had their mind fucking blown if they had played Minecraft and Skyrim around the same age they played OOT or ALTTP

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>>5832837
>I was attacked by a dog when I was 4 and i've hated them ever since but I still managed to beat RE1
Kinda a shit reason to hate dogs brav.

>> No.5832859

>>5832837
Imagine being so pussy that you dont even take advantage of being in a video game to get back at your own fears. I used to go to town on the dogs in Ultima 7 all the time

>> No.5833410

>>5832850
You can understand the unamusment be had by those trying those games for the first time now

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I'm growing increasingly sick over this "muh noughties" nostalgia. The 2000s were just the 90s but doused in cynicism past 9/11.

>> No.5833570

>>5817723
This is the correct answer. If you want kids to like old games, have children. Genetics are a thing and your kids usually like shit you do.

>> No.5833646

20yo here, I'm more of a story/atmosphere fag so I enjoy Saturn and PS1 games, don't really like modern games besides shit like Stalker and Demon's Souls. The 5th gen graphics, minus N64, is the most aesthetic looking gen imo.

I'd like to try some older gens too, SMB3 and ALTTP have been semi fun so far, but I cannot beat shit like Mega Man and Castlevania without using save states as extra checkpoints. They're mostly fun though, but wouldn't put them in my favorites

>> No.5833681

>>5833646
Here's a friendly tip: you might develop the skills to get better at games if you stopped using savestates all the time

>> No.5833687

>>5832837
>>5832859
People who hate dogs are either autists or sociopaths

>> No.5833694

>>5833681
I don't care about getting good though

>> No.5833716

This thread is emblematic of how shit /vr/ has become and how shit even 30 year olds are nowadays, supposed to be at an age where they finally have a grasp of what life is and coming up with this detritus.

>> No.5833782

>>5817543
I got into retro gaming as a kid because my GameCube's disc reader broke and all I had to play on was a shitty PC running Fedora Core 3. I played the classics on ZSNES with a keyboard. Also, Doom.

>> No.5833789

>>5833782
Also, I used to work at an arcade back in 2014. Kids still love Donkey Kong and Mortal Kombat II. I got to be the guy that knew all the secrets and fatalities, it was fun.

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>>5831982
Master of Magic is worth it.
But you do have to realize that in the 80s we weren't inundated with videogame options and couldn't play all the time anyway. We also didn't have an internet full of porn and wikis for every game imaginable a 3 second search away. If a game had a thick manual I'd just read it for fun, especially if it was something like a D&D game where they'd include descriptions of spells and monsters and leveling charts for character classes and such. It would really inspire my imagination and I'd do shit like draw up my own dungeons on graph paper.

If I was a kid today I'm not sure I'd have the same urge to read that kind of thing either and if I had creative urges there are probably games like minecraft to scratch that itch.

>> No.5833970

>>5833646
>I cannot beat shit like Mega Man and Castlevania without using save states as extra checkpoints.
For Mega Man start with the second game. It's much easier than the first, or at least has a gentler and more consistent learning curve.

>> No.5833973

>>5833716
>vague generalization about a 420 post thread
You're the problem.

>> No.5834324

>>5833687
>People who hate dogs are either jelly because they can't lick their own balls or don't want to be licked by a tongue of something that just licked it's own balls. After eating it's own shit.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/03/woman-undergoes-quadruple-amputation-licked-pet-dog/
They're such nice animals but filthy as fuck

>> No.5834347

>>5817543
Depending on the game
Usually if it's relevant to newer shit they will.
Like smash ultimate and rereleases get slightly younger crowd playing castlevania for example. Or someone might go back and see what all the fuss was about with quake 1 or 3 when they try quake champions and don't completely hate it.

It is rare but it does happen.

>> No.5834351

>>5834324
>extremely rare, affecting one in a million
Who cares. Also, there's nothing wrong with licking balls.

And I mean, you eat shit already yourself.

>> No.5834352

>>5834324
Imagine having such a shitty immune system that you die from getting licked by a dog.

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>>5817549
>extraorbitant

>> No.5834585

>>5834352
I hope nothing bad befalls you

>> No.5834675

>>5834351
>Who cares
The chick who got her shit cut off?
There's plenty wrong with licking balls. If that's your fetish then knock yourself out but that doesn't change the facts.
And you're projecting pretty hard there about eating shit sport. Obviously a scrotophile such as yourself gets his fair share of fecal matter doing is work down there. But I eat good healthy shit. Figuratively. Like when colored folk say "dat shit be da shit". Not literally. Like when you say "oooh honey you've got a dingleberry let me try to catch it in my mouth."

>> No.5834683

19 here. I like Vidya and have started very very small collection of Gameboy, advance, and GameCube games and hardware and looking into getting into n64 as soon as my local place has a decent deal on one. Eventually I wanna get into NES and Sega stuff too but I don't know much about them.

>> No.5834814

>>5834352
>>5834585
Dogs actually help improve your immune system by means of exposure to slight amounts of pathogens similar to how vaccines work and their saliva heals wounds faster. The backlash against dogs is a meme, some people are just very miserable in their souls and also it makes people click on articles.

>> No.5834931

>>5834683
So basically what you're saying is we need to bump the age limit up to 20 so the retarded kids who can't read the rules will be breaking two rules when posting about their GCN shit instead of just one?
Great suggestion

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5834945

>>5834352
And apparently her own dog. That has probably licked her literally millions of times. So there's something else involved here. Don't want to go all tinfoil hat here but she probably got a vaccination before her trip to that 3rd world shithole and ironically didn't die from any shit there but from a simple dog lick when she got home. Offer me a better explanation.

>> No.5835113

Zoomer here, everything's fucked, the zoomers are gonna machinate faux nostalgia and churn the ps2, gamecube and xbox prices to infinity.
As they all leave school and start youtube channels and get jobs, you can bet your ass that ALL the old equipment and shit's gonna be bought up by 'hip' zoomers who want to feature their collections in their videos and talk about how much they know all about it, it's all hopeless, it's affecting audiofags too on a lesser scale.

>> No.5835127

>>5834945
Not tinfoil hat at all, sounds like the usual nonsense of trying to make the theory fit the evidence to make it seem like they have a fucking clue what happened.
>open wounds
>severely immunocompromised patients
>like three cases on record
>40% of cases came from "no identifiable risk factor.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criid/2019/3537507/
I'm no forensic pathologist but surely it's common knowledge that any open wound in an immunocompromised person can be lethal. I have first hand knowledge of my aunt who scratched herself on a piece of broken glass and nearly died and she wasn't even immunocompromised or an alcoholic.

I'm also no medical detective but if 40% of cases don't have an "identifiable risk factor"... aren't 40% of people about the same amount of people who don't have any pets? So it doesn't matter if you have them or not. With that high a percentage it seems ridiculous to say "do you have a dog?" and then if they do to conclude it was the dog.

>> No.5835193

i doubt they do OP much like i could care less about any consoles prior to the NES/SNES

>> No.5835202

>>5835113
PS2 classics will never be exorbitantly expensive.

Sega CD games and Japanese only Megadrive games were actually manufactured in small numbers.

PS2 was the most popular console of all time (and for all time, since there probably won't be too many more future traditional consoles). Games were manufactured in enormous quantities.

>> No.5835674

>>5817543
I don't know about passion, but some kids aren't allowed to own consoles, so they play retro shit on they phones. I have seen kids going through Pokémon and Zelda on their phones and really enjoying them. It's more of a casual approach.

>> No.5836501

>>5835674
This, most kids these days don't have consoles becauses their parents are buying them tablets or phones and that's what they consume all their media on.

>> No.5836510

>>5835674
Having enough dedication to beat Zelda while putting up with phone controls is a thousand times more hardcore than the average loser collector who plays an hour of WWF No Mercy on the ol' PVM when the kids are in bed early

>> No.5836512

>>5836501
Android tablet with bluetooth controller + emulators is the way to go. My sons tablet only cost 40$ i think

>> No.5836517

>>5836512
Basically this. It's not hard as it use to be in fact it's even easier.

>> No.5836681

>>5817754
Cope harder you fat nigger

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>>5817543
21 year old late millenial/early zoomer here
I've always kinda had a love for old technology, video games specifically, but I love looking at old computers such as the IBM personal machines from the 80s, etc.
I've been collecting retro systems and games since I was ten, but started gaining interest in retro systems at around 8 or 9 after seeing videos of mario 64 on early 2006/7 youtube.
I think a lot of newer generation people like the idea of retro systems and playing on genuine hardware, a few of my friends in middle school/high school collected retro systems, mainly nintendo but my best friend collected genesis.
I've never really grown up on any of the systems I collect, besides from some slight nostalgia from mario kart 64 and starfox 64, but the gameplay really holds up nowadays ya know? I'm actually currently try to get my hands on a sega saturn, as I've always loved arcade style games, and sega has some great arcade ports on there. Plus, ya know, nights and panzer dragoon.
I've recently also really got into the restoration scene, going out and finding more beat up or dirty consoles and making them shine like new. I feel like retro isn't going to die with this generation. When people play re-released classics on iPhone or the big 3 consoles/steam, they'll get an interest as to what it was like to play on genuine hardware, thus the cycle continues that way.

>> No.5837194

>>5836681
>seething

>> No.5837267

>>5834931
>B-but my cherry picking and reading comprehension senpai
>Gameboy release date -1989
>N64 release date - 1996
> NES release date 1985
Did you even read the comment fully or did you just see Gameboy advanced and GameCube and smash that autism button?

>> No.5837279

>Wont someone please think of the children

>> No.5838135

>>5837267
Yeah, I "cherry picked" the only stuff you actually own. Get fucked kid.

>> No.5838269

I'm sure they do, especially with so many retro games being given the shovelware treatment with mobile remakes and Steam. But there's nothing wrong with people enjoying new games. It's a lot easier to get immersed in newer generations of gaming because there's just so much dynamic content. Whereas retro games were usually released as a stand-alone packages with no content updates (aside from the occasional expansion pack for computer games) modern games usually receive regular content patches, including optional DLC. This ensures that games released even within the last decade can continue to enjoy mainstream success for a very long time.

Retro games occasionally receive the same kind of treatment these days, such as modern remakes of retro games that go on to receive regular content updates. And these remakes sometimes do enjoy similar degrees of success and mainstream appeal when compared to more recently released games. It's all about keeping things fresh.

>> No.5838897

>>5820660
>>5820660
I'm 44 and a Game Boy Advance is pretty much a portable Snes.

>> No.5838971

>>5828768

To truly appreciate the Atari 2600, you have to play the third party games like Reactor, Tac Scan and post 1984 games.

>> No.5838990

>>5828897
Then try Seaquest and megamania.

>> No.5839013

>>5817543
My brother was born in 2001 and not only does he have no interest in retro gaming but he doesn't even know what retro gaming is. When ever I try explaining to him a game or console from before 2006 he just acts like I'm speaking a dead language to him.

>>5817549
Also this, the barrier of entry is far to large. Not just in terms of money but the knowledge as well. Most zoomers don't know what a CRT is and will be confused by the input lag from their LCD TV. Do you really think they are going to spend hours researching things like modding old consoles and upscalers?

>> No.5839037

>>5818184
>Turns out the idea that a newer generation won't like the same thing as the old one is an idea mostly propped up by people who want to feel special and that kids these days are stupid and don't appreciate good things, just like every single generation before them has said.
This is zoomer cope. I grew up loving things that my parents grew up loving when they were kids; scooby-doo, flintstones, jetsons, peanuts, different strokes, etc. When I was a kid I had to listen to the oldies radio station where I was exposed to 60s & 70s music, but zoomers grew up with personal CD players and iPods so they never got that exposure. Zoomers have no connection with anything from before their time. Things aren't just like how they have always, only zoomers blinded by normalcy bias think otherwise.

>> No.5839480

>>5839037
If your parents grew up watching different strokes they're in their 50's and you're probably a zoomer yourself. Or even worse, tail end millennial.

>> No.5839612

>>5838135
Ok so let me spell this out for you, because you apparently really do have a the reading comprehension of my 8 year old brothers.

OP asks
>Do newer generations care about retro games at all?
and elaborates that he wonders if there are people born after '99 who have a passion for retro games.

I then respond that I am 19 and love video games, and that I am specifically collecting for Gameboy (again a pre '99 console), GBA, and Gamecube. The inclusion of GBA and Gamecube is unnecessary but it is definitley still more on topic than the discussion of someones balls getting licked by a dog. I then go on to elaborate that I am interested in the NES and Nintendo 64 (again both predate 1999), both details of which demonstrate that I am interested in, dare I fucking say, "passionate" about retro gaming.

If your brainlet ass would relax for two seconds and consider the post in the context of OP you may have actually realized that your epic pwning of some punk ass kid was actually just making you look like a massive retard.

>> No.5839640

>>5839612
But you're making fun of someone whose mentally handicapped.. so...

>> No.5839774

>>5839612
>when you're such a zoomer you have to kidsplain. twice
You really have no idea how pathetic you look coming here looking for validation in some "secret old boys club" and getting violently triggered when someone laughs at you because you "passion" is mostly about things not allowed here. Do you not understand what cringe is?

>> No.5839892

>>5835202
Zoomers are also the most manufactured generation of all time.

>> No.5839913

>>5839612
Based zoomer, whats your favourite gb/gbc game?

>> No.5839917

>>5839913
Pokemon pinball is one of my faves but I've sadly never owned a physical copy. Right now I'm playing dragon warrior 1 on the 1 and 2 combo cart.

>> No.5839927

>>5817543

>will retro shit die with us

Nothing you have ever seen on the web will die until a massive cataclysm wipes life out of this sector of space

>> No.5839984

>>5839774
I think you look pathetic, not him. His posts were all perfectly valid.

Also, why does it matter how someone "looks"? If you think someone is pathetic, say they're pathetic. Caring about how you "look" to a crowd, especially on a site like /vr/ is for vanity or at least not what people should be concerned about. You should be concerned about being right, that's the goal, not being popular. Such a zoomer-like thing to focus on. What's more, you're speaking for others, you're acting like you know what we think. This idea of talking about how someone "looks" to others has come in a while back and is so dumb. If you're going to shittalk someone at least do it properly.
>Do you not understand what cringe is?
yeah you sure exhude major boomer cred coming up with lines like that.

>> No.5839986

>>5839983
>>5839984
Cringe

>> No.5840090

>>5839984
Cringe

>> No.5840180

Jesus Christ, I thought this thread was dead. anyways, just to make what I said a while ago shortened and more concise. Zoomers see gens 3-5 as comfy, and usually don't care about anything before the NES in my experience.

>> No.5840193

>>5839612
Just relax dude that guy is clearly fucked in the head.
But IMO the handhelds kind of suck unless you really like them for portable gaming. Console game equivalents are almost always better.

>> No.5840214

>>5840193
Yeah, handheld ports of games didn't get good until we basically had a portable SNES. But the games made just for GB and GBC are incredibly comfy.

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>>5840180
>usually don't care about anything before the NES in my experience.
Hardly anyone does.

>> No.5840219

>>5840214
I think GBA ports mostly suck, too. I'd say DS and PSP were the first good handhelds.

Although yes there are some good games made directly for the handhelds (eg Link's Awakening).

>> No.5840234

>>5840219
Not saying GBA ports aren't inferior, just that they were the first ones that were actually playable.

>> No.5840569

>>5839984
>Also, why does it matter how someone "looks"?...Caring about how you "look" to a crowd, especially on a site like /vr/ is for vanity or at least not what people should be concerned about...This idea of talking about how someone "looks" to others has come in a while back and is so dumb...
Now this is a head scratcher
>If you're going to shittalk someone at least do it properly.

>>5840219
>>I'd say DS and PSP were the first good handhelds.
Then you'd be saying something incorrect and stupido

>> No.5840580

Depends. I got my little cousins into Parappa the Rapper and Katamari Damachi, and a few GC games. I know the last two aren't retro by vr standards, but still.

They showed interest in a few NES games on Animal Crossing. Excitebike, for example

>> No.5840584

>>5840569
GBA ports are consistently shit and not worth playing unless you can't get anything better in a handheld.

>> No.5840593

>>5840584
Playing old games ported over to gba is your first problem. That's not where older retro games belong at all! lol. Gba has great classics that will eventually be considered retro though. In fact one might utilize the Psp in order to emulate them on the go.

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>>5817543
im 22 and at some point i picked an entrypoint(first person perspective) and decided to try all the greatest games in it. at the time being into halo reach i ended up trying marathon and then doom on xbox arcade. i learned about emulation on our family facebook machine and got an interest in computers and older games in general. i played a lot more older fps too just to try them, from quake to blood to rebel moon to corridor 7 to quiver, cybermage, necrodome and mods and sequels. i just gave everything a shot while i was creating that megatorrent of older fps (i dont know if its still seeded)
>https://www.thepiratebay.org/torrent/8557820/Retro_First_Person_Shooter_Compilation
while i was exposed to quake 2 multiplayer and redneck rampage growing up, i think people know what they like and will explore older games in that genre looking for an experience to capture that magic even if it isn't familiar to them. and thankfully with that boomer meme quake is in the limelight for a little while longer, i guarantee people are getting exposed to the series because of it which is great

>> No.5840856

>>5840180
Yeah pre-NES is pretty much a cool history lesson to me, can't find any interest to actually play anything let alone own anything.

>>5840193
I'd agree that most console games are better on paper, but I really like the pick up and play aspect of portable gaming. Things like tetris, pokemon, pinball, etc, work better on handhelds than consoles.

>> No.5841092

Honest to God how many of you guys genuinely care about what others play? Honest opinions

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>>5817549

If you just want to play the game then downloading roms and playing them on a emulator is the best option. Immoral? How? It i not like buying a used copy would help the original devs in anyway.

>> No.5842102

>>5817543
Born in '99. Grew up playing N64, GC and PC games and would internet search for the games I was playing all the time, and would find out about the older games in the series and would bug my dad/brother to help me set them up. A large part of my adolescence was making SMW ROM hacks and sifting through ROM sites for new shit to play.
There will always be a market for retro, they just won't be boomers with nostalgia for specific generations or hardware.

>> No.5842168

>>5841092
Obviously a buttload. All I care about is embarrassing underage faggots in hopes is scares them back to their containment board

>> No.5842195

>>5841092
I hope everyone gets to try the good ole 'gems

>> No.5842791

>>5817956
this is the reason i was born in 88 and am more familiar with the original nes and gameboy then snes and genesis.

>> No.5842814

>>5820309
post-2000 video games:
3d is standard.
bigger international markets
the rise of open world games
fps get slower, more cinematic games

There's plenty to discuss there but it does not belong here. we're way overdue for /v2k/ but it will probably be shit for a few years because it's going to be people talking about how gta SA was the greatest game every made and ESL retards claiming shovel ware games created by their shit countries are awesome

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>>5817543
Thanks to the Wii Virtual Console, I became a retro gamer. I was born in 2000 and still play a lot of Sega Genesis games on my PC or in real hardware. Brought a GBA when I was 14 and brought a SNES when I was 9. I still have my original PS1 and have my PS2. The only modern console I have is the Switch.

I help take care of this 13 year old kid from one of my mom's friend and he loves the SNES and Gameboy. He got a whole library of GB games from just going into a bunch of retro stores or from hand-me-downs. I prefer emulation while he likes original hardware, which I can understand.

I still have my 2002 Trinitron in my room to play Wii and SNES. I use my Wii as an emulation machine and as a GameCube. Been playing Sonic Adventure 2 recently and can't put it down.

>> No.5842873

>>5835113
the mod scene for gen 6-7 is just as, if not more active than retro consoles. xbox/ps2 are piss easy/free to mod and the game cube takes and $5 mod chip to play anything. collectors are always gonna be faggots but it's not going to be hard to play those games.

>> No.5842918

>>5842814
>it's going to be people talking about how gta SA was the greatest game every made and ESL retards claiming shovel ware games created by their shit countries are awesome
It's not a huge step down from nostalgia for N64 wrestling games and yuropoors talking about the Amiga

>> No.5843250

>>5817543
19yo zoomer here. I mostly play retro shit and my favourite game is Chrono Trigger