/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Ended, pretty much waiting for a final release
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

Ion Fury
-Tourists: there is already a backup of the original release
-Read the OP

=== NEWS ===

[8-20] Anon releases his commercial shovelware compilation, all extracted
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17fEEr969NzxgqPBVl0M0stXZxTjegRbZ

[8-18] Hell-Forged released
https://twitter.com/AmuscariaArts/status/1162968692357025792

[8-17] Oni gameplay mod Naku Naru 1.1 relesed
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65276

[8-15] 'Out for Blood', an episode of Blood maps
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=episodes&id=612

[8-15] Anon map release: Bloody Pulp.wad
https://mega.nz/#!Nsx1XCjL!o1qx7szJl0dVCguEITpWLudg9gZ-Dj3AsBWFEj01Sto

[8-14] Anon map release, he wants feedback
https://www.mediafire.com/file/dzwap1o46z2uf87/testmap.wad/file

[8-13] Anon shares more Doom books
https://pastebin.com/tHE6PCUr

[8-12] Legion of Bones, a spooky monster pack balanced around vanilla
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65583

[8-12] Anon makes a Linux CLI launcher script for GZDoom
https://pastebin.com/kQVs46z3

[8-12] System Shock 2 Enhanced Edition by Nightdive announced
https://twitter.com/NightdiveStudio/status/1160740078685057025

[8-11] Dial-up for Murder releases some Doom-inspired MIDIs, for free use in projects
https://dialupformurder.bandcamp.com/album/midi-nightmares

[8-7] Blood: Fresh Supply updates effectively discontinued
https://imgur.com/Eexiyzi

[8-7] A recent list of old websites hosted by Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107986-dws-old-hosted-sites/

[8-5] DBP14: After the Fall RC3/final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107872-dbp14-after-the-fall/

[8-5] Anon Doom map release: Lumber Lordosis
https://archive.org/details/lumberlordosis

=== PREVIOUS ===

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== PROTIP ==

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I love the aesthetics of duke nukem 3D.
I wondered whether there was a name for it, and how the devs did it. Is it pixel art? Pixelated painting?

Can we start a Build / Ion Fury mapping project next?

>>5824775
Indexed colors

>>5824775
Mix of digitized photos, hand drawn graphics, and pre-rendered 3D models.

>>5824780
Build mapping is a bitch, have fun with that.

Steam communities never end up good, but holy shit Ion Fury's getting absolutely spitroasted by both side's undesirables.

>[8-20] Anon releases his commercial shovelware compilation, all extracted
Anon, if you'll be updating it, please add in Readme which folders are new.

>>5824790
Troll got what he wanted. Imagine that.

>Build Engine FPS gets it's title changed because of Iron Maiden
Even the legal issues are a reference

Ion Fury 1.0 needs standalone data file dls, namely of the following three files:

fury.grp
fury.def
fury.grpinfo

Makes it easy to decensor, or to use with a eduke32, instead of reinstalling.

>>5824780
>less than an hour played
>negative review so I can join the hivemind
Oh boy

>>5824796
No one is going to see the link if I posted that shit, so I won't. People would still be asking for it over and over. You do you.

just put it with the other files in the folder

>>5824791

I'll release a v2 with the handful of releases missing and update the text file.

I've also bought all of the doom editing books - https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_books - and I'll be scanning those and will post links when done.

>>5824807
I love you so much, anon, thank you for this!

That badass videogame developer moment when you bend the knee to Iron Maiden boomers and then you bend the knee again to some irrelevant forum some troll baited

>>5824807
I never noticed before, but is that supposed to be an Alien next to the cybie? The fuck is that?

>>5824808

Np, these books need to be preserved.

>>5824810

its from the original aliens wad

>>5824796
Also post checksums and distribute those widely

>>5824796
>decensor
What?

>>5824775
Yeah, shit!

I want you guys to list your favorite 10 Build Engine levels. I'll start

In no particular order:
Dark Side
The Overlooked Hotel
Death Row
Red Light District
Hollywood Holocaust
Phantom Train
L.A. Rumble
Dark Carnival
The Haunting
Shop-n-Bag

Plan on making a torrent of the mega soon. Any last requests for version 1.0? I'm kind of spooked about it getting yoinked by a copyright claim. Links to GoG installers would be appreciated, especially for stuff with ports to different operating systems, I've realized I've been slacking off on my linux bros.
Of course, keep it retro.

>>5824796
I'll upload a copy to the mega, as well as the checksums of all 3 files separately in the morning when I wake up.

Any Shelly porn of her getting railed by Duke yet?

Or her being fat from all the junk food? Or her taking massive shits?

>>5824783

>>5824814
>>5824807
Any links to this?

>>5824846
Only in your fucked up head

>>5824846
>Any Shelly porn of her getting railed by Duke yet?
That'd be...

>Or her being fat from all the junk food? Or her taking massive shits?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>5824851
That sparks some deep memory that I can't tell is real or not. I remember a video tutorial on mapping made by Wizardworks and I think it came with the Kill-A-Ton collection. I can't find it on Youtube so I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it.

>>5824851
Only in the most obvious place possible. Learn to look for things, slug.

>>5824853
Haha imagine how smelly her farts would be from all the cock, tacos and pizza haha

Ion Fury mapping website. Dev said that he will be adding more stuff later.

https://furymap.lerppu.net/

>>5824864
>that palette list

>>5824846
what if it was Ion Furry? haha

When I try to use mega links it doesn't load and then gives me this error message.

Anyone have any idea what could be causing this or how to fix it?

>>5824796
What does this mean? I seriously don't understand a single fucking word of this post. Can someone explain this for the non-technically inclined?

>>5824836
>Links to GoG installers would be appreciated

Are you asking for download links for the Ion Fury GOG installer? Or... ?

>>5824889
What browser? Do you have some noscript extensions running?

>>5824889
Ctrl + F5

>>5824862
Is this for Build? It's a lifesaver if so; I can't figure out those controls at all.

>>5824908
It's for the Ion Fury version of Mapster32.

>>5824890
>what is a file extension?
You... might be on wrong board.

the Ion Fury release is one hell of a trainwreck

>>5824923
Who cares? Play the game.

What's wrong with Brutal Doom?

>>5824928
See >>5824924

Anybody working on wiki pages for the Ion Fury levels? would be nice to have a break down of them as well as maybe photos of the maps.

>>5824928
literary everything

>>5824928
Try again later, we're still talking about Ion Fury and the controversy surrounding it, Marky mark and the Brutal Bunch are taking a back seat to this.

>>5824935
What is that controversy? I've been out of the Internet for 3.64 picoseconds.

>>5824937
Nontroversy that involves a bunch of crazy people hating the game after devs apologized to another bunch of crazy people that were hating the game.

>>5824928
Nothing. Its just people who don't like say "Its a military shooter and does not feel like Doom"

>>5824893
>Do you have some noscript extensions running?

Not that I'm aware of. Is there any way to check?

>>5824928
u look kute

>>5824937
TerminX (eDuke32 and Ion Maiden dev) said on discord that faggot parents shouldnt mutilate children with pre-teen gender alteration
ResetEra cried "TRANSPHOBIA", banned everyone who disagreed, ran around the internets spreading their shit around
Kotaku published a hitpiece about how all developers of Ion Fury are literally hitlers
3DRealms did a stupid thing, cave in to crybabies, and paid 10 grand to some faggot charity.
Also sent TerminX to reeducation camp

>>5824954
Just use a different browser.

>>5824902
All this does is refresh, which does nothing.

>>5824941
>it's a military shooter

>>5824913
But what do they fucking DO? What are they for and where do you even get them in the first place? Wouldn't any files for the game just be in the GOG installer?

>>5824959
That's not an option. I'm on a shared computer and can't fuck with it.

>>5824964
Use a different computer then. Heck, you could even use your phone.

>>5824958
>Also sent TerminX to reeducation camp

BTW, this poster isn't joking or exaggerating. They literally sent him to a china style fascist "reeducation" thing.

>>5824964
Well maybe your shared computer doesn't allow for extended browser features like mega.

>>5824924
I would love to, but every larger space or boss drops below 30fps.

>>5824969
You sound bitter. That's a negative emotion. Very problematic. Off to sensitivity training you go.

>>5824968
Don't have access to a different computer. Why is irrelevant.

Instead of answering questions that I didn't ask ("should I use a different computer? hurr durr") it'd be more productive to answer the actual question that was actually fucking posted ("how do I fix this shit?"). Even if that answer is just "dunno nigga lol".

>>5824974
Yeah, Square's a good game.

>>5824928
Nothing.

>>5824973
r_maxfps 0
Vsync off
You get tearing but at least it runs at a decent speed. Unless your rig is shit.

>>5824961

>>5824987
It's not a great rig, but I shouldn't need more than a Ryzen 3 to play a fucking Build game. None of the suggested solutions help.

>>5824928
Trannies hate the dev of brutal doom

>>5825013
are you running in classic or opengl renderer?

Classic will run like shit unless you use a much lower res or use upscaling

>>5825013
Well then you're fucked until they improve performance. Probably won't happen.
Everything is shit.

>>5824928
Community drama, dragged out longer than it ever should have lasted by the people who "hate" drama.

>>5825023
OpenGL
>>5825024
Basically. I suspect it's some sort of bottleneck because neither my CPU nor GPU get anywhere close to maxed out while dropping frames.

>>5825024
It's standard modern source port developer logic now, have absolute shit optimization and yell at your users that they need better hardware.

>>5825027
Ryzen has shit single core performance so that doesn't help. I have an i5 running at 5 GHz but there's still a buch of jank every now and then. Boss arenas run fine at least.
But yeah. Optimization is not something these port boys worry about too much or at all.

>>5825028
>>5825013
>works fine on my PC ©

>>5824928
Absolutely nothing, it's just a bloated and silly 'all style no substance' mod. I liked dead zombies leaning on the walls.
It's the concerning amount of people who think it's the definitive way to play, without question, that scare me.

>>5825030
I figured it had something to do with the engine itself not supporting multi-threading. Loading up the final boss arena with every enemy dead, I was getting a rock-solid 12fps at 40% CPU usage & ~20% GPU usage.

>>5825031
Found the obligatory WORKS FOR ME post.

>>5825013
>>5825024
I heard on their discord the upcoming patch will fix a glitch with hitscan that can make performance drop during big fights

>>5825046
Bigger problems than that going on but I guess they can't figure that stuff out.

>>5825050
I'm willing to chalk it up to the dev and/or QA team not having access to AMD hardware to properly test.

>>5825052
Doubt is.

>>5824964
why you are on shared computer? too poor to afford own? or are you underage?

>>5825058
The system requirements don't even list anything specific, just "Intel i5 or AMD equivalent".

>>5825060
lazy bum is probably browsing at work

5456456456

>>5825061
Engine's got problems they can't solve. Build was never meant for high resolutions to begin with. The higher res VESA shit chugged like a motherfucker way back when.

>>5825073
I know it's not the best example because it can also run like shit, but GZDoom can pull off higher resolutions just fine. What is so fundamentally different between the Doom and Build engines?

Deepfake technology is near us anons, the recent fake voice stuff with Rogan and JBP is not quite there compared to the real thing yet, it's merely a novelty for now, but the possibilities are endless

Imagine making levels for build games and getting some AI generated voice lines for Duke or Caleb that sound close to the real thing, or playing Thief Fan missions without having to hear french dudes trying to sound like Garret
What a time to be alive

>>5825078
What a good time for people to blindly trust what's on the internet.
That tech's been around for a long time now.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1EVvevGkSXT

>>5825078
I wouldn't mind some deepfake voices of Gordon Freeman

>>5825084
haha

Yo, Linux anons.
How is Ion Fury on your end? Jittery bullshit or smooth as butter?

>>5825091
I'm really disappointed I couldn't get the damn thing to say HUH properly

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1lNNOjW9w2Y

>>5825084
What the fuck? I listened to it and now my screen's full of fucking dolphins... fucking dolphins! Back to the mental hospital I go.

>>5825103
>he fell for it

>>5825092
Smooth for me. The trick for me was setting max FPS to 120 in the menu, even though my actual monitor's max is 60 FPS.

Take this with a grain of salt though, becauSe I haven't reached the final boss yet (who apparently makes Windows players' computers hang)

>>5825102
Japanese Quake

>>5825106
Now it's an animated short about dolphins "attacking" people! WHAT THE FUCK?

>>5824928
Because it’s shit.

>>5825084
Navy Seal pasta is mandatory

>>5824928
The balance, the performances, some sprites and some of the features are bad idea. It's still ok, but it's no PBrutality

>>5825084
>>5825102
What is this anon

>>5825158
https://www.notjordanpeterson.com/

time to voice your hot Doom opinions

>>5825164
Aaaaand it's overloaded. DEAD

>>5825078
I wonder if it'll be illegal to Deepfake someone's voice without their permission in the future.

>>5825174
Probably already is.

>>5825174
oh shit, the copyright fuckery is only going to get worse isn't it
fuck

Thank you, not-Peter.
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1WADE1rbpSU

>>5824928

So, Ion Fury doesn't run well on toasters? This is one of the things that I hate the most. Remasters/re-releases of old games, and new "retro" games using ancient engines that somehow have the system requirements of a modern game. Despite looking the same as the original games from decades ago, they require far more powerful hardware to run for some reason (not to mention 40MB games somehow becoming 1GB on the rerelease) Why is this allowed?

>>5825181
>knee held against zombieman back
>jumping on one leg

>>5825185
Make a better port. I dare you.

>>5825185
It doesn't run on the old engine. It runs on a source rewrite of the old engine.

>>5825175
Is it illegal to use a recording of someone's voice without their permission currently? For non-profit reasons, of course.
>>5825176
There's a lot of shit this can do.
I wonder if it'll turn into people selling the rights for people to use their Deepvoice'd voice. You no longer need to actually speak lines your self. Though that might end with voice actors breaking down mentally now that they're no longer actually do the work they love, kind of like what happened to McKellen when he was filmed alone on greenscreen sets in The Hobbit.
Also, would it be illegal to have a voice similar to a copyrighted voice? That would be pretty fucked up.

Get fucked

>>5825185
old engines are CPU bound and aren't very compatible with the "1080p" standard of these days

also Ion Fury is like, 3 times more detailed than Duke Nukem 3D, at the very least.

Lazy, boy.

>>5825206
What is that, an Arch-Vile for ants? An Ant-Vile?

>>5825234
SHUT UP

>>5824928
use the archives like warosu or desuarchive

>>5825243
Still tiny. A magnifying glass won't help.

>>5825249
DIEE

>>5825261

>>5825181
>Brutal Doom
>151 fps
Doubt

>>5825315
Screenshot doesn't actually look that busy, there's like what, one enemy present and he's currently stuck to the player?

Of course, BD will like to drop frames a lot in general.

Does EDuke32 have an Android port and if not, then why not?

>>5825336
Randy

To the mod that issued a ban warning for requesting fetish and scat pornography fan art of Shelly I would like to apologize.

I will refrain from breaking the rules further and I will stick to posting on topic discussion from here on out. I do not wish to receive a ban as I enjoy participating in this thread regularly.

Again, my apologies.

>>5824974
can't wait for ep 3

i hate quake and it's shitty fanbase.

What are some subtle brightmaps that would work with SmoothDoom? And was it updated to fix an issue when some triggers didn't activate properly because they should've been triggered on monster death.

>>5825206
>>5825243
>>5825261

>>5825356
kill yourself

>>5825416
What's wrong with them? Func looks like a fairly normal forum for example

>>5824891
no. it's on the mega, I'm just making last rounds for a torrent if there is any interest.

>>5825445
it's just one faggot that wants to stir shit up, report and ignore as soon as he starts sperging out again

>>5825416
its*
I*
neck self*

>>5824969
They didn't send him anywhere. He's going to have to watch (or not) half a dozen humorous videos and click on a multiple choice answer list until he gets it right. That's literally it. It'll take 5 minutes if he skips the videos (but he shouldn't they're actually funny as hell).
BUT. He shouldn't have to at all. Shit was fucking retarded.
The game though, is very good. The world has a lot of character, and a great style. Shelly isn't quite as good a character as Duke or whoever. She's about on par with Leonard. No one special, just someone in the right place at the right time. Which is fine.
I'd give the game an 8/10
SPOILER fagbag LAAWRAAH!!

>>5824775
I don't, it's the ugliest build game by far. When it's not dull and grey it's snot green. Sound design is also pretty terrible, poor John St. John has had his voice compressed into 8 kHz sample rate I swear.

>>5824974
∆ This very much ∆

>>5824928
The mod itself? Feature creep, it's also been stale since 2013.
Even fags on /vr/ can't deny it brought about 10 million zoom zooms into the doom community though.

I don't even hate Mark, he's an asshole, but who isn't these days

Ehehe. So I was watching me some Ion Fury videos.

Now I already have suspected back from the preview campaign, essentially, this game is a spin on Eradicator. There were several points of similarity to corroborate that version. Well, two, really.

First one, Eradicator gave you several protagonists to choose from, but being the game with which obviously featured a lot of platforming, the only sensible choice was the fastest of the protagonists, to give you more of leeway on jumps, should you jump using first-person view. Said protagonist was sort of an assassin catgirl, called Eleena. Now, Eradicator was one of the first FPS games with voiced (with more than grunts, that is) protagonists. Sure, Dark Forces contained a couple of lines. Duke, I think, was released earlier than Eradicator as well. Anyway, point is, Eleena was voiced. The personality was essentially no-bullshit one, very similar to Shelly, the latter being more crass.

Second point was all the enemies were either robots or mutants, and the ranged weapons the enemies used were fast projectiles. Which incidentally is also the case with Ion Maiden. In fact Ion Maiden contains several direct quotes on Eradicator's bestiary as well.

So, in essence, Ion Maiden, as per preview campaign, was no-bullshit woman gunning down robots trying to gun down her. Simple enough, distinctive enough to remember I've seen something like that somewhere before.

Now, Eradicator had some peculiarity. In many respects it was a Doom-like shooter. Mouse aiming was obligatory though, due to no auto-aim (mouse implementation was pretty fucking godlike for 2.5D game as well!). And combat dynamic, due to projectiles being fast and Eleena moving like chipmunk on illegal substances, was more Unreal-esque in dynamics (Unreal was not to be released for two more years though). It sort of tried to freshen things up. The levels sort of contained hard-coded gimmicks in them (so hardcoded, I read, they weren't even offered in Eradicator's...

>>5825474
>it's the ugliest build game by far
I mean I know this is an abject shitpost, but I can't imagine someone saying this when games like Witchaven, Extreme Paintbrawl, and TekWar was made on the Build Engine.

>>5824762
>ctrl + f
>No mention of SM200

SM200 Released!

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61762

>>5825074
John Carmack was the difference.

>>5825339
i wonder what'll happen to gearbox and duke in general if/when randy goes to jail?

they found CP on his company drive it's only a matter of time.

>>5825489
nobody plays those anymore

>>5824836
this fucking gif, noice

>>5824923
How so?

quakeniggers are fucking cancer.

>>5825507
It wasn't CP, it was just a video of some camgirl

>>5825487
... official mapping tool. Meaning, custom levels created using only it - there are no other mapping tools for Eradicator to this day - would never feature anything alike what the campaign levels themselves were sporting. There were all sorts of wonderful bullshits levels introduced to further entertain the player. Herein lies the peculiarity. You see, from a certain point onward (basically the end of episode 1), Eradicator's levels began to blur into each other. Like literally, you were like playing (the combat being some of the best in 90s FPS games, I frankly prefer this game combat-wise to any classic Build game), and you caught yourself thinking you have difficulty remembering what even an episode it is supposed to be. Like, without consulting google, I wouldn't be able to say even whether this game had three episodes, or was it four. It was wasn't connected with audiovisuals, the visuals changed changed enough so that the levels were still distinguishable in principle. It wasn't that the levels played out the same, they played the opposite of the same in fact. It's just that the game made it perfectly clear those per-level gimmicks had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with each other, they were superficial variations on the exact same concept. What that concept was, was made clear through wholly different means altogether. You see, the game had some usable powerups, ridiculous roster of weapons half of which you didn't ever use, that sort of thing. One of the things, two actually, were sort of hovering drones you could find and activate, what I meant was, you could activate two at once. A drone fired each time you fired. So if you chose melee weapon, and swung, the drone would fire, saving you thus ammo (drones had infinite ammo charge). If you fired machine gun, two drones would turn that into three machine guns. Things were ridiculously useful. One caveat: any shot that should've hit you, would hit a drone and likely kill it, if not, the subsequent shot...

>>5825487
>So I was watching me some Ion Fury videos.
Opinion discarded, no need to write another wall of text.

What is your favourite IF zone?

>>5824814
A guy I became bros with at a flea market gave me this book for free one day. I cherish it. It's in perfect shape too.

>>5824829
1. Mall of the dead
2. Cradle to grave
3. Duke burger
4. The Dungeon (E6M7)
5. Hollywood Holocaust
6. Phantom Express
7. Death Row
8. Overlooked hotel
9. Raw Meat
10. insert your favourite shadow warrior level here so we can pretend it has good levels

>>5825078
German version of Thief has really nice voice actors.

>>5825524
...definitely would, these things were effectively glass. So using drones meant playing without getting hit WHICH THE GAME ALLOWED barring some instances were you had to trudge through some toxic sludge for a couple of seconds. I thing there was some item you could use to forego the damage, but the drones still got affected.

Anyway, the core concept I was talking about was the evasion of damage, and the gimmicks the levels introduced had one, and only one, thing in common: they didn't have jack shit to do with the evasion of damage. Thus they were fluff, they didn't train you to get better with the core game, they were there purely to waste your time.

That this point was intentional was made apparent through the very subdued, monotonous art direction, ambient-like droll soundtrack. Even the technical limitations worked for it: Eradicator was VGA-only, so in order for the res being only 320x200 in 1996, they tried to mask it by making the whole game smooth-like with gradient-like textures, nothing much sticking out to produce jarring aliasing of shimmering which would make low res obvious. It was a nice looking game, actually, very good framerate too.

ANyway. Backtrack a bit, the motif of levels smudging together, until you cease being able to tell them apart. THE EXACT SAME THING happens, judging from what I watched (pagb666's ultra-viscera, all secrets, 19 out of 29 videos so far), in Ion Fury. The means differ however. Ion Fury makes level blur by means of being overdesigned sprawling in random directions parrot-colored mess with "requiring oh so much a finesse" secrets splurged all over without any rhyme or reason. In other words, the emphasis is onto overloading you with quantity...

>>5825528
I will and you know it.

>>5825576
You do you, man. Have a good day.

>>5825549
finally somebody did it. Nice to see I'm not the only one that likes the first level in Blood. But it's pure contrarianism not having Hollywood Holocaust on there too.

>>5825601
check your eyesight my nigga

>>5825603
fuck me.

Did ion maiden get patched yet?

>>5825576
And here is the most interesting thing. This blur wasn't there just because Eradicator did it through largely different means. There was apparent meaning connected to it, which was entirely absent in the preview campaign, as far as I am aware, and which I think became a part of the game due to a specific person which, I think, is very likely to read this wall of text right here.

The subtext of the aforementioned overload was as such. Whatever you think is depicted is literally sectors with some effects and other wonderfull bullshit. Wherever you think you move or progress, you are just seeing differently colored, textured and effected sectors. That's literally all there is to it. There is no meaning to be conveyed by any of this, level-design is simply a job, and we are much better at this job than you are and you will ever be, whoever you are. Whatever you've seen somewhere in some map or other, we have done it, numerous times, you maybe didn't see it performed by us, but only due to us voluntarily choosing to show you something else instead. We've been there and done it all, and there is nothing there except mindless entertainment, and never was.

NOW, this is obviously a fallacious argument in itself. That English alphabet only has 26 letters doesn't at all contradict that you here now are probably reading now quite what you've expected to.

And your sector cornucopia will either be ignored or, best case, scenario, will lead to emergence of ultra-minimalistic mapping styles with every singled goddamn sector and effect having as much direct gameplay significance as at all possible, just to spite you.

All of that isn't even a point. My point is that your point is that neither sectors nor effects have any inherent meaning to them.

This is literally what OG Quake's campaign was built to convey.

Nigga, were you trying to impress someone with an argument shoplifted from fucking QUAKE, of all games? Not only shoplifted, badly misunderstood at that?

>>5825609
My position is that a parrot (parroting a 1996 game, no less) isn't in any position to fucking lecture anyone on the questions on what meaning is, what meaning isn't, and where it is or is not to be found.

And that is all, I am gonna say, for now, in regard to you and your game.

>>5824976
here's MY answer: some websites for me work better when on incognito mode for some reason
i use firefox

>Still bitter about nonsense and I have no better cathartic release than Doom

Okay let's see:
-Pillow mods are powerful but not visceral enough
-BD annoys me with little details like imp leaping
What should I play when I'm platinum mad anons

>>5824829
1. Golden Carnage
2. Dark Side
3. LA Rumble
4. Derelict
5. The Abyss
6. Sewers Below
7. Fusion Station
8. Mirage Barrage
9. Death Row
10. Freeway or Hollywood Holocaust

Sorry guys, landslide win for Duke.

>>5825649
Turn your internet off.

that one baron/hk lion sprite monster makes me wish there was an egyptian cat and oni variants

>>5825507
Loli shit or the real deal?

>>5825653
Golden Carnage was definitely a great map. I love how it is yet another high concept level, but also one that has the visual clarity of classic dude levels, it is not sacrificing clarity for a bunch of little details everywhere. I disliked a lot of the episode 5 levels for that reason, felt like they went overboard.
Mirage Barrage is also real solid.
Good taste for having LA Rumble that high, has to be LevelLords best one.
>Derelict
Sorry, can't back you on this. Shit level.

>>5825653
havent played world tour yet
fuck you Randy
and fuck you Anon, Blood has better levels than Douk

>>5825549
>10. insert your favourite shadow warrior level here so we can pretend it has good levels
i liked that house level in one of the expasions, where you can get every main weapon in the first level

>>5825681
Playing World Tour when you have eduke available is pure torture. I just wish I could play those new levels in eduke. World Tour feels like complete shit playing, it's like you're dealing with 200ms of input lag

>>5825196
Impersonating someone won't end well for you.
Well, unless you play the LOL IT'S A PARODY card. But that needs to be clear as day.

>>5825519
Get out, Alf

>>5825649
gmota is fun

>>5825680
I'm fucking fed up with Derelict hate. It's one of the most amazing level layout wise with a wonderful use of SOS, a great concept, and classic design unlike most levels in The Birth and Alien World Order. Basically I think every level other than Duke Burger, Derelict, Mirage Barrage and Golden Carnage is shit in the two expansion episodes... Well, maybe Going Postal is ok, but unremarkable.

Also, I miss this kind of style in Ion Fury. The levels are cool on their own right, but this conceptual grandness, telltale graphics instead of all-in details is a sore miss.

Oh, and I forgot to tell my favourite non-Duke:
Blood: the dual punch of Overlooked Hotel and The Haunting is clearly the best, but Dark Carnival is fun as well.

SW: Master Leep's Temple and Dark Wood in the shareware episode... Bath House, then the Derelict part two in Floating Fortress and Water Torture (this one looked like a Duke 3D level).

>>5825710
I must have said this already, but I would give my testicles for a Deus Ex, Strife type of game with the looks and levels of Ion Fury.

>>5824761
Jedi Engine sourceport WHEN!?

>>5825717
Literally, Cybermage?

>>5825717
Deus Ex has plenty of mods, m'dude. High detail maps probably exist, even without the castration.

>>5825720
just play jedi outcast again and then the multiplayer
yeah yeah not /vr/ but still the best star wars game

>>5825726
Not that many.
I was just saying it would be cool for a 2d type game trying to be an even better strife.
But then again maybe it would lack all the cool elements games like DX have,stealth etc.

I would be content with another Hexen type game in a cool interconnected hub world, with more focus on melee weapons.

wish gzdoom could do time rewinding and slowing
and doing it selectively

i have this idea where savescumming is basically an intentional part of the gameplay by rewinding time whenever you die
but it would ofcourse run on energy, and the energy used for rewinding wont be refunded, but rewinding over other energy using abilities would
then just have more traditional checkpoints for when you die and are out of energy to rewind

>>5825741
people do pistol start plutonia with -fast and no deaths, how about you git gud

>>5825741
You'd have to track and log everything, and while the RNG Doom uses isn't really RNG (even less so than most RNG nowadays), it would still be a pain.

There are time slowing mods, the most popular is a bit hacky but it's functional.

>>5825710
I forgot to say that Golden Carnage's greatest feat was throwing me back to 1996 with its oldschool design. It's a level with a vintage Duke look, unlike most levels in AWO, which went in the modern overdetailed style instead of conceptual grandness. Even the grey-ish colors in that level looked so classic episode 1-3 Duke. Surprised by the anon who said Derelict sucks, because it was episode 4's classic looking conceptually grand map, and has many similarities with GC.

Mirage Barrage is not flawless, the early maze part looks meh, and it's a bit less vintage in look overall (except for the space part), yet, it was so fun adventure, everything runs so smoothly, loved the map despite its flaws.

Levelord on the other hand clearly tanked in episode 5. Take a look at Red Ruckus. Moscow alone is a prone of great design concepts from the Kremlin to the Stalin seven sisters, not to mention the soviet metro stations, yet, it was just a flat Shop-n-Bag map with some irrelevant extras and a muh Overlord, you can say it can be a simple LA/The Birth map without the cheap skyboxes and posters.

And France is the same, except it at least reused some of Sewer's abandoned locations, yet, I still love Sewer's stylish classic look more. Again, where is the Arc de Triomphe, Louvre, the famous Paris landmarks? Cheap to say the least.

>>5824761
DOOM or Heretic or Hexen but its a D&D or Everway-type RPG.

>>5825741
Rewinding necessitates keeping a savestate every tic, something out of the field of Doom mods

remember when Tchernobog did 9/11

why is sarais spamming /trash/?

>>5825181
Post the imp

>>5825776
anyone got the one about the sneaking cultist leaving marinara sauce?

>>5825710
Personally I like Shop-n-bag from Episode 4 a lot, not sure I'd call it an absolute classic, but it is good. So is Duke Burger.
Derelict to me is just a big map with a whole bunch of nothing to it, it's visually repetitive to the point where it gets stale, it feels like you're just going through the motions. I do not like it at all.

The Overlooked Hotel is maybe my absolute favorite Build engine level.
>>5825748
Derelict isn't really classic in that sense, what made Duke levels memorable is that they were high concept and relatable settings, so I'd classify Duke Burger as a "classic" duke concept. Derelict to me is bad, but it's way worse when you put it up against a level like Dark Side, which does everything it does but about 400 times better.

Obviously since I already wrote about Golden Carnage I'll repeat again that I love it. I wanna play it in eduke32, fantastic level. Aside from Mirage Barrage, the other levels in E5 felt cluttered to shit and didn't end up being evocative of anything at all really.

>>5825821

>>5825826
>do you work for Tchernobog?
every time

https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1163887166642167809

Also this out for blood meme is looking distinctly amateurish and poorly designed
it being this dark migth be on bloodGDX, I can try nBlood

>>5825847
>calender
i recognize those boobs...

>>5825826

>>5825847
Honestly gdx does not look that bad. I augment the contrast a bit and thats it.

I fucking love Elvira.

>>5825891
>>5825861
I know I'm hot shit, finding a secret tesla gun and everything, but cerbrus on the first level is a bit odd
also I missed a skull key somewhere because of this le ebin level design and have to replay the level now

Also to that anon asking for the life leech alt fire is for: cheesing bosses

>>5825617
P.S. Loved the moon mega-secret.

>>5825847
it wouldn't be that bad if every level there is a questionnable level design decision that makes the player stuck; hiding progression related elements more than actual secrets.

>>5825927
play french meat or hostile takeover instead
if you haven't played eviction/retail therapy already

death wish is skub, I kinda like it, some people think there's too many zealots

I am playing Ion Fury right now.
The levels are labyrinthic, I run in circles until I find where to go, and the enemy respawning is annoying, as they have only two lines of dialogue.
But it is pretty.

>>5825937
>and the enemy respawning is annoying
Huh?

>>5824851

Check this - https://archive.org/details/DukeNukem3DKillATonCollectionUSA

The handbook might be on disc 2 as a pdf, I haven't checked.

>>5824857

Disc 2 has an 'interactive guide' so maybe it's real ;o

>>5825937
Fat shaming, disgusting.

Id really lost it's soul after Romero left, didn't they? They were never able to release a truly groundbreaking title again, after releasing 4 in a row (Commander Keen, Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake).

>>5825825
Okay, you hate Derelict, I got it. But I and many others love it for the reasons I mentioned (3D style use of SOS, original theme and atmosphere, classic look etc.). Don't be so mad at me for having an opinion different to yours. I remember an anon here which spent lots of drivel about how bad Mirage Barrage is.

And not to mention some anons' negative comments about Sigil, which IMHO is a masterpiece with some minor flaws.

These are all divisive maps/episodes, some hate them, others love them. For me, Shop and Bag for example is a total shit. Exteriors are ugly, gameplay is total nonsense with weird turrets and button puzzles everywhere, the map doesn't have the scale of a supermarket mall at all. George Broussard glued an unfinished Levelord map, that's all. But feel free to enjoy.

As for Dark Side, I agree with you it being the best map in the game. It's better than Derelict, Golden Carnage etc., because it has a dreamy flow, and the places you visit looked stunning.

>>5825937
There is no enemy respawning, but new scripted enemies may appear in previous places when you hit some level trigger.

Guys important question:

Graphics or Gameplay?

Because my friends think that doom 1 and 2 are complete shit because they have so "Shitty" Graphics meanwhile im sitting there enjoying the lovely retro experience

Also whats your favorite mod?
Mine is Brutal Doom

>>5825937
>I am playing Ion Fury right now.
Dilate.

>>5825937
>fat earth
UH-OH TO THE GULAG WITH THEM

>>5825965
nice bait

>>5824924
I might as well start buying makeup and cut my dick off. You should avoid supporting tranny's and tranny enablers at every available turn. Get woke go broke.

>>5824807
What's that blue monster in front of the cyberdemon?

>>5825937
The levels clearly lack tightness and focus. They are just sprawling, and the whole game is a chore after a few hours of playing. This game badly needed a talent like Allen Blum or Romero.

>>5824862
jesus what a nightmare

>>5825956
>Don't be so mad at me for having an opinion different to yours
I apologize anon, didn't mean to rant AT you for liking it, just got caught up going into detail over why I don't.
>Shop and Bag for example is a total shit. Exteriors are ugly, gameplay is total nonsense with weird turrets and button puzzles everywhere, the map doesn't have the scale of a supermarket mall at all. George Broussard glued an unfinished Levelord map, that's all.
Hah, to be fair, I pretty much just like it for the superficial reason that I find it kind of comfy that it is set in a supermarket, even if the scale is all wrong. I wouldn't call it a great level, but it is one of my favorites from E4 at least, which I guess isn't saying a lot since E4 is very mediocre.

>>5825974
Wat do you mean nice bait?me no understand ples help

>>5825517
trannies get their panties in a twist, at least 5 (!) negative reviews are posted on steam, devs are forced to apologize and lobotomize their level designer for comitting wrongthink
naturally every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so now anyone with /pol/ leaning is refunding the game (even though if you played less than 2 hours you weren't that interested anyway) and crying about it too

in other words, just another day at the office

>>5825478
begone triangle

>>5825185
Hm, it's almost as if the maps are a brazilian times more detailed than maps made for build in the 90s

>>5825978
>OP mega
You dolt.

>>5825996
>so now anyone with /pol/ leaning
It's more than that. Virtually everyone on the Steam forums is pissed off at the devs.

>>5826008
I never said /fash/ wasn't the new black
I'll check the steam forums, seems like a good time

You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>5825847
I started that one and wasn't feeling it. The progression is too cryptic. "The Cult" episode from a couple months ago was way better.

>>5826008
>OH YEAH FUCK VOIDPOINT
Yeah, fuck the people who kept it real.
No, 3DRealms made them do this shit. You really can't see that? Yeah, you're one of them. I fucking know it.

>>5826021
Huh?

>>5826021
still waiting for that citation anon
if you work at voidpoint post some proofs

>>5826031
Go ask them yourself, anonymous.

>>5825996
>at least 5 (!)
!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH NO

CALLING ALL JANITORS

>>5826008
>Virtually everyone on the Steam forums is pissed off at the devs.
And virtually everyone on the Steam forums are lacking a functioning frontal lobe. They're just there to look for excuses to be angry at clouds because it's the current hip thing to do.

hmm perhaps one could say voidpoint was HOIST BY THEIR OWN BROUSSARD?!?

>>5826073
Nah, the devs deserve the shit they're getting, especially considering their response.

>>5826073
>They're just there to look for excuses to be angry at clouds because it's the current hip thing to do
and 4chan is different how?
actually no, the whole internet

>>5826115
I should be madder at more productive things, this whole Ion Maiden shit is depressing

like how the new C96 from Sekiya Asami only got scanned in fucking chinese
that's the fucking crime here, where are the RAWs?
translation when?

Wow Alien World order is actually pretty okay.
Had more fun than in Ion.

>>5826041
now they're getting at least 50 negative reviews with the following sentiment: fuck resetERA and fuck voidpoint

>>5826128
Lee Jackson does the soundtrack again, and aside from dude weed lmao level it's all pretty good
now why can't it be played in eDuke?

>>5826140
I was smirking like a jackass at the dude weed lmao because it was perfect cringe out of the fucking 90s and postal as shit. It actually seemed made back then.

>>5826040
that would require me to boot up discord and then barge in somewhere I don't belong
and then either screech inarticulately until I get the boot (my natural state of being) or get a grip on my 'tism and present fake gaming blog credemtials asking for a statement
or you can stop spreading misinformation or at least SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS which I would prefer honestly

>>5824761
>Americans wake up
>thread goes to shit
What? Every time.

>>5826149

gang gang

>>5826151
Europe is fucked as well but twitter is one hell of a drug.

I have no idea why it exploded so much in America, nobody really gives a shit about it. It become for some fucking diaries. Something that should be private.

>>5825507
he's rich, and not as popular to make an "example case" out of him, so nothing will happen, even if it was real CP.

>>5826151
and mods do nothing
probably taken sides

>>5826168
mods did take sides ever since the gaymergay debacle
lugagge lad moot 2.0 aka sigourney unironically fired every mod who disagreed with his politics

>>5826168
More like mass sudoku

>>5826169
*moot 1.0

considering the doom slayer background, i wonder if there could ever be another doom reboot with a different background
like doomguy being a prisoner in some jail that was innocent and said jail was owned by uac
he's one of the few prisoners that servers the demon rampage that occurs in it or something

>>5826175
>zoom slayer
>lorefags
>>>/out/

>>5826175
Wolfendoom isn't much of an interesting idea

>>5825710
Derelict is one of the best Duke levels.

>>5826175

I would love Doom to go full REAL hell with heavy religious and satanic undertones.

It's fine people like the the Sue big bad ass zeitgeist Doomslayer, but I would much more prefer a lonely fragile but human Soldier suffering and doing the impossible to fight off the invasion.

Cringe grimdark kinda like 40k does all the time. The Imperial Guard game that was never actually tried.

Are there any multi game server browsers + chat rooms like Kali, Gamespy Arcade etc that are still used for retro FPS or other retro games?

>>5826173
He was desperate to bend over to the same xoxofest asshats who were funding shit like canv.as, says a lot that he fucked off to be Google's bitch.

>>5826192
People use Discord for just about everything these days.

Thoughts on Ion Fury now that I beaten it.
Good:
>soundtrack that fits the game
>nice open level design that looks gorgeous
>all the weapons feel great to use
>the game can be challenging in a few places
>plenty of replayability with all the secrets
>most boss encounters are challenging and are fun to fight against
Bad
>the flying enemies can be rather annoying
>smg seems to be tailored made for the flying enemies
>the amount of spider enemies get annoying after awhile
>Shelly isn't as funny as Lo Wang or Duke
>final boss fight isn't that great
>no explosive weapon that explodes on contact except for the mine
>weapons could be more creative given the cyberpunk setting
If I were to rank the game I would give it a 4/5. Despite the issues mentioned, the good outweigh the bad and I would like to see an expansion that adds a few more enemies and weapons.
Also do I play Blood or Silent Hill next?

>>5826175
>doom slayer background
is never stated anywhere
Him being Betrayer, or initial leader of night Sentinels etc. are false and claimed by people who didn't pay attention to what exactly is being said (I'm sure that such vagueness was deliberate on id's part).

He's still just some guy that ended up in hell killing demons because he's really angry about them for undisclosed reason.

>>5825861
>>5825891
I love her custom goth convertible.
Also that she's a pinball enthusiast and has copies of her own Elvira pinball tables.

>>5826212
>smg seems to be tailored made for the flying enemies
Play on MF. Dualies suddenly make sense.

>>5826215
I just like her tits and innuendo.

>>5825809

>>5826205

I was hoping to have an integrated server browser so I could see what people were playing. It'd make it a lot easier to jump in and play random games.

>Even Mark IV is shitting on the IF devs in the steam forums now
I mean, that's gotta sting.

>>5826187
>I would love Doom to go full REAL hell with heavy religious and satanic undertones.
It's always a massive disappointment when the demons turn out to aliums. Even 2016's demons were a let down.

>>5826264
who?

>>5826271
He worked on Half Life, I think.

>>5826283
oh you mean the game about the ninja chinaman, the one with a nuke launcher?
good to know

>>5826215
she looked better without the stupid hair and the makeup, but it was the 80s, and nobody likes a ginge

Thank you, generous secret.
Smells like movie night in here.

>>5826307
>blonde shelly
Nice. How is progress on the mod that restores the old logo?

>>5826307
hardware is such a shit film

>>5826313
How should I know? I just play video games.

>>5826307
super sayan when above 100 health?

>>5826314
Spooky robots work just fine for me.

Seeing the whole Ion Fury thing, I'll allow myself to say I won't fuck up like 3D Realms did.

>>5826323
Nobody cares, tranny. Fuck off, nazi. There, now no matter what your opinion is, you can fuck off and stop shitting up this thread with edrama.

Updated my doom map a bit. This is my very first map so rip and tear it apart. Made for UV and run it in something like GZDoom. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gm8dya0ksnr65b9/crateimportsalpha2.wad?dl=0

So much for participating in that server.

>>5826340
No no anon, you don't get it, it can't end with a single post, we need to obsess over this stupid bullshit for another eight threads

>>5826341
Give that angry imp his pistol back, you THIEF!

>>5826346
TAFFER

>>5826341
>Running from Evil
Oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>5826348
I haven't updated any of the mapinfo stuff like mapname or music. Any suggestions would be great.

>>5826307
>>5826313
She looks better blonde already.

>>5826205
Then there's Mixer, TeamSpeak, and Skype.

Hehehe

>>5826372
>Mixer
lol
>TeamSpeak
It's not 2012
>Skype
I'm not MSNBC, I have no reason to use Skype

>>5826378
This game is too based.
I feel like the clock is ticking, they're going to remove all the actually funny jokes from it cause people will be upset.

>>5826385
At least Wrath is being designed with a straight face.

>>5826385
See >>5826338

>>5826391
I know they haven't censored the game. But I'm saying with all the eyes on them, people will probably start getting mad over the most banal shit.

I mean people are mad about ogay for fucks sake.

>>5826385
wasn't there a trump reference where he's refered as tramp?
that's technically both a political joke and a gay one

>>5826398
Personal problems. People need and will learn to live with those.
That's the lesson here. 3DRealms folded. Not Voidpoint.

>TNT: Evilution
>The Plutonia Experiment
I never played those and I'm gonna fix this, which one do I go for first?

>>5826410
TNT feels amateurish by comparison.

>>5826410
TNT is easy. Plutonia is hard.

>>5826410
TNT first, then Plutonia.

>>5826410
>quick small maps filled with chaingunners, arch-viles and bonerhead bastards
>large open maps filled with chaingunners or gimmick maps, but uses custom midis
pick your posion

>>5826338
Removing the little gay jokes is just slightly annoying. But the devs lying and saying that isn't censorship actually pisses me off.

>>5826428
I'll believe it when I see it.
Game journos can't be trusted. That is the world of today.

>>5826427
uhh, it's the other way around, Plutonia is the first line, TNT is the 2nd

>>5826398
people are not mad about ogay
people are mad because devs cave in for the trannies

>>5826437
I'm mad because you won't fucking go away.

>>5826415
>>5826419
thanks.

>>5826413
>>5826427
Well damn.
Also I forgot about SIGIL, I assume this is last and I hope it's good.

Is Mapster bad, really, or are you just too lazy to learn it?

>>5826445
i was here before you, faggot

>>5826427
get plutmidi, and it's quick small maps filled with chaingunners, boneheads, martians, and sick tunes

NEW THREAD. MIGRATE:

>>5824578
>>5824578
>>5824578

>>5826465
No

>>5826465

>>5826465

>>5826458
And it's time for you to leave

>>5826342
They're probably concerned about grifters and shit after what happened.

Can we make our own Build Engine General now?

>>5826465
You fucked up.

>>5826487
It's time for you to dilate.

>>5826341
Ha.
I think you forgot to put in a way out of this secret, though.

>>5826496
Yeah, we've had them before. Just make one.

>>5826496
>we
You do it. How's that?

>>5826505
Did you jump in there? You weren't supposed to.

>>5826503
Will you leave after my eye exam?

How often am I allowed to save

If I replay a room until every save slot is full trying to save ammo and take no damage is that overkill or thoroughness

I just finished the first Quake expansion and the boss immediately struck me as being very much in the style of Quake 2. It's the only hybrid/mechanized enemy in Quake (as far as I'm aware). I wonder if id took inspiration from hipnotic in the design for Quake 2?

>>5826349
Literally whatever from Doom 1 or the middle or later levels of Doom 2.
Alternatively, you could put in a track from Rise Of The Triad, those are really good.

>>5826510
I just use this one along with idclever for pistol starts
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59889

>>5826508
Better turn it into a death pit. And put a secret + teleporter down there too.

>>5826510
Save as many times as you feel comfortable with. This is not a competition.

>>5826510

That's savescumming and should be avoided. If you don't learn how to play or adjust to low health you won't improve. You're just bruteforcing RNG until it goes your way.

Saving after each big encounter is fine but I wouldn't reload if you're low on ammo or health. That also gives you a reason to look for secrets.

>>5826508
You can straferun from the boxes on top of the right walkway, I assumed that was the intent.

>>5826510
That's savescumming by the book but play however the hell you want.

>>5826510
Only at the start of levels.

>>5826528
>>5826521
Nah that's a really obscure secret that has a trigger/switch to lower the bars. I'm going to change it to be a bit more easier to figure out.

>>5826512
Plausibly Hipnotic might have taken inspiration from iD, perhaps seeing some very early development on Quake 2.

>>5826510
When you're done playing. When you die, restart the level with just a pistol.

>>5826519
>>5826349
I Choose the Stairs would probably fit well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SALwVjEZ0Q8

>>5826465

>>5826545
how the fuck is that soundtrack still so good

>>5826545
Neat, anyone have a guide on how I add custom music like this?

Interesting bit of history

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/anaconda.html

>>5826561

Add a midi to your wad using Slade and call it D_RUNNIN

>>5826562
where can i play it

>>5825037
Nice Image.

>>5826575
Dude, literally link

>>5826581
you can't fool me, hitscanners can't fire through eachother's hitbox like that, not without infighting

>>5826574
Oh shit. They're swingers.[/spoilers]

First IF run is here.

>>5826574
Great, but does anyone have the midi on hand? Or at least a trusty link to it, I'm not too sure on some of these sites.

>>5826593
Any crap site will do. Here's one. https://midiarchive.co.uk/midi/Games/Rise%20of%20the%20Triads

>>5826590
wow ending spoilers

>>5826559
Lee Jackson was real talented. Shame he's retired now.

>>5826510
That'd be pretty textbook savescumming.
I used to do it like, a fucking lot, but I've trained myself to do it less and it makes the game more fun.

Consider trying to aim for saving before or after grabbing a key, for instance.

>>5826596
Thanks doombro

just learned that the spawn cube from IOS doesn't have any angles, just a spinning animation

I found one with all 3.

>>5826593
If you want to be a cool kid, you can also use tracker/module music. Same method applies.
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_random

I'M DOING IT

>>5826638
Mapster is so much more obtuse than making shit for Doom. Good luck.

>>5826638
Go for it, anon. That guide is very well made.

>>5826341
Got the ROTT music working fine so I'll be sure to include that in the next update. I would really like feedback for the final room as that's the one I've had most trouble with balancing. Tell me if it's too easy, too hard, whatever you think about it.

>>5826456
A win32 version of a dos program is bad compared to the modern mapping tools we have for Quake and Doom, yes. Powerful of course, but a bitch.

>>5826638
I wish you good luck, it'll be hard, but if you put in the effort you can make something pretty good.

Are there any good coop mods nowadays? It feels like there's no point in playing regular doom coop-- everyone just sprints off and plays the map separately and there's no real incentive on cooperation.

My TV has lots of input lag. Had it for 2 years and it's been ok for anything but online FPS is near unplayable. But I logged in for the daily rewards in QC and I jump into one match for the daily quests even though the Response times are shit. No settings changed at all. The things smoother than I've ever seen. I'm hitting rail shots incredibly easy which was next to impossible on this TV before. No clue what's happening.

Anyone any ideas?

>>5826638
Here, you'll need this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIq4ymJ1YLw

Fuck, there was a obscure retro FPS torrent that I was seeding for years but I've lost the torrent and the files. Does anyone happen to have it? It had FPS games sorted by 'wave' and had shit like Roger Ramrod etc.

>>5826670
Hideous Destructor

>>5826670

You could play 1 life survival and use the coop exit pk3. I don't have it on hand but wadseeker will find it easily.

That hidden loss meme in Ion Fury is pretty great.

How bad is Dromed to use? I am absolutely in love with this series. Now I understand the following. It's going to be hard to have another game that merges such an interesting setting and style with great gameplay.

>Slayers Club writing articles about what Doom modders need
Yeah sure, let the PR marketing fellas with poor research giving tips on how to do Doom modding
Also, isn't ZDL dead?
Last time i downloaded it, i had to go to a link in ZDoom wiki

>>5826694
Wow, how dare they. This is so damaging to our precious doom modding community.

>>5826694

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't recommend Doom Launcher over ZDL ;/

>>5826697
They made an article about how the model used for the Spider Mastermind is still at id to this day, even thought Gregor Punchatz confirmed it was a replacement because the original one was ruined
The trailer for the shit ports this year even switched Doom 1/2 footage and put up an SSG over D1 footage of the regular shottie in use

>>5826694
>>5826698
>not launching your game with -file parameter listing all the wads and pk3s you wanna load and in what order
pathetic

>>5826694
ZDL still works fine for me.
What's wrong with it?

>>5826694
They gave this one shot. I don't think it's coming back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kNBwiWU36k

>>5826719

>having all of your wads in one folder
disgusting

>>5826694
Somebody's developing ZDL again, has been doing for a while now.
>>5826729
Fucking this.

>>5826670
do you think a slower movement speed (somewhere between walk and run) with ability to sprint (at SR50, but without ability to shoot) would help the issue of everyone in co-op running away?

>>5826719
>>5826729
>not dumping all of your WADs into one chaotic mess of a folder and then make windows associate .pk3s and WADs with a specific version of GZDoom so you break a bunch of shit and have to go into the registry editor to fix your dumbass mistake

Haha, yeah I'm the real smart one here.

>>5826729
just drop them in when needed you dumbass
I also have different versions of zdoom, gzdoom and memeboom+

>>5826739
>associating pk3 with anything other than 7zip
wew

>>5826740

Sounds a lot easier than having organized folders and frontend that pulls metadata from textfiles.

I also have more than port.

Just saw a girl on a walk wearing a doom shirt
I will probably never meet her

>>5826762

"Nice shirt, Doom rules"

ezpz

>>5826762
>he didn't UNF her

>>5826670
A good coop mod would be an I visible tether. The further away you get from a player the slower and slower you move, so eventually you're at a turtle crawl.
You can also teleport to other players so you can't get stuck.
Just a thought.

>>5826694
what are you doing Bethesda? just link them to the video guide! what silliness is this?

and while you are at it please shill my Patreon at
https://www.patreon.com/hampture

Thank you Todd, best regards

-Video Gay

>>5826767
I was driving, I didn't have a chance

>>5826774