/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Ended, pretty much waiting for a final release
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[8-17] Oni gameplay mod Naku Naru 1.1 relesed
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65276

[8-15] 'Out for Blood', an episode of Blood maps
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=episodes&id=612

[8-15] Anon map release: Bloody Pulp.wad
https://mega.nz/#!Nsx1XCjL!o1qx7szJl0dVCguEITpWLudg9gZ-Dj3AsBWFEj01Sto

[8-14] Anon map release, he wants feedback
https://www.mediafire.com/file/dzwap1o46z2uf87/testmap.wad/file

[8-13] Anon shares more Doom books
https://pastebin.com/tHE6PCUr

[8-12] Legion of Bones, a spooky monster pack balanced around vanilla
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65583

[8-12] Anon makes a Linux CLI launcher script for GZDoom
https://pastebin.com/kQVs46z3

[8-12] System Shock 2 Enhanced Edition by Nightdive announced
https://twitter.com/NightdiveStudio/status/1160740078685057025

[8-11] Dial-up for Murder releases some Doom-inspired MIDIs, for free use in projects
https://dialupformurder.bandcamp.com/album/midi-nightmares

[8-7] Blood: Fresh Supply updates effectively discontinued
https://imgur.com/Eexiyzi

[8-7] A recent list of old websites hosted by Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107986-dws-old-hosted-sites/

[8-5] DBP14: After the Fall RC3/final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107872-dbp14-after-the-fall/

[8-5] Anon Doom map release: Lumber Lordosis
https://archive.org/details/lumberlordosis

[8-3] Assets from id's mobile games exported
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101479-sprites-and-textures-extracted-from-id-mobile-games-now-with-orcs-elves-2-and-doom2-rpg-brew-resources/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2013695


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== PROTIP ==

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Has Ion Fury inspired anyone to learn Build Engine?

>>5816934
Holy shit anon I said from the very beginning of this argument that you can give your characters any fucking skimpy ass bikini or speedo you want, just don't make it metal or a heavy-ass material. Why are you acting like it's some sort of concession I've made until now

We've deviated so far off from the original contention point that I really see no reason to continue with this line of inquiry though.

>>5816948
Call me when an actual good EDUKE32 map maker comes out

>>5816949
>We've deviated so far off from the original contention point that I really see no reason to continue with this line of inquiry though.
which is why you immediately dragged it into another thread

>>5816879
I have solved the disgusting, sexist inequality in that image.

>>5816948
No. But it does inspire me to resume my GZDoom projects.

>>5816948
Maybe if it allowed for some Strife type of game.

>>5816963
well played

>>5816973
How, might I ask

Where THE FUCK, am I supposed to find one of these?

What do you wanna is in an Ion Fury expansion?

as an aside the OP image got posted on /co/ some time ago, somebody floated the idea of "what if Doomguy was Cream's dad/foster father"
at which point someone produced pic related
she looks more like a chaingunner though

>>5816984
More enemy variety

An actual reason to stop using the Loverboy's alt-fire as the best solution for everything

>>5816984
a traditional rocket launcher that shoots in a straight line

>>5816984
Desert level.

>tfw ion fury has ruined the art of all other build games for me
Douk looks so murky and stretched now. Doom looks better and more consistent
Maybe I need to play at a non-stretched resolution or something, but is there any good Duke GRAFX mods out there? Not shit like Polymer or HRP

>>5817015
maybe try playing in non widescreen resolutions?

How did you people manage to beat Ion Fury? The final boss is running between 17 and 24fps for me no matter what settings I use. It's literally unplayable.

>>5816984
>fix the weapon balance/variety
>increase enemy variety. There's a distinct lack of low individual threat projectile throwers.

>>5816987
>An actual reason to stop using the Loverboy's alt-fire as the best solution for everything

Seriously.

There's almost no reason to use anything else for most situations. It's absolutely broken.

Am I the only one who hates this whole zoomer neo-Doom/Doomslayer shit?

>>5817028
>Am I the only one
Stop
For the most part this general like '16 but no, you're not alone

>>5816948
>has ion fury inspired anyone to make a new build editor?
ftfy

>>5817028
Yes. Any more questions?

>>5816984
Better gameplay

>>5817028
no, you're not
his name is DOOMGUY, and doom 16 is already forgotten (snapmap is a joke, no mods, no lasting appeal)

>>5817020
Hopefully there'll be a patch. I just beat map 3 and the large outdoor areas played like shit because the framerate shat itself. This game is fantastic but its optimisation is balls.

>>5817028
I hate it too, I also hate how this general had turned into a meeting hub of bitter modders who can't create anything decent.

>>5816963
12/10

>>5816985
furfags pls go

>>5816936
I don't like this image.

>>5817047
I hate everything, (You) most of all. Now shut up and play more quake/blood/doom/flavor of the week iron maiden build engine game

>>5817028
The games are ok, but seeing the parodic/joke doomguy in comics turning into a more accepted version of doomguy as it has been endorsed by BD and Doom '16 does actually suck.

>>5817028
in the end it turns out that
(you) were the memes all along

>>5816985
pretty sure there were some crossover drawings on /v/ 2 years ago
probably related to a ship between solid snake and cammy white or "spikat"

>>5817028
I actually really like nuDoom's style and art but they're already starting to ruin it with Eternal. The increased color saturation and that HUDs are awful.
I never liked the glory kill shit from a gameplay standpoint (it's better balanced in some Doom mods) and both games are a bit too slow though.

>>5816936
For the love of fuck, someone please tell me which maps from Master Levels for Doom 2 are the good ones.

I'm pulling my hair out, so many of these are complete garbage. They have a bad habit of overstaying their welcome by a long long long margin by having you engage in le ebin switch hunting, I'm hating them

>>5817043
Does Voidpoint have anyone who actually made eDuke32 on their team? Because it's likely the engine not playing nicely with newer hardware.

>>5817041
>DOOMGUY
that's a fanmade nickname because he was always nameless

>>5817015
God imagine a modern Duke game by Voidpoint on the Build Engine

>>5817062
Why even bother? Just play any other wad.

>>5817064
The lead dev is the creator of eDuke isn't he?

>>5817076
>Why even bother?
Autistic completionism of the retail releases

>>5817062
just skip to NRFT if you dislike it that much
it's not like you are missing out that much

>>5817065
Doom's not the kind of game you worry about story or canon in. He's a guy, he's in doom, his only motivation is to shoot demons for fun, because it's fun for the player, he is the player.

>>5817062
none of them

>>5817084
I already played No Rest For the Living

The first techbase levels were a snooze, but I thought it was okay after Vivisection. Nothing to write home about mostly, except maybe the last map (MAP09). That was a neat bit with the hordes of imps in the darkness and the cyberdemon labyrinth

>>5816936
I like this image.

>>5817086
i know but when it comes to being interested in a thing i like, i'm usually for caring about even the most pointless shit because of what it's related too
but also because doom as a series has so many prespectives and points of view, along with the fact that it's often taken at surface value, that people easily make stuff up about it
whether or not the game was made with mouse is an example
people either make up rumors to fuck with someone else or they just gave the series a complex case of mandela effect

>>5817062
i thought bloodsea keep was okay

>>5817097
nobody cares, nerd

>>5816948
I randomly looked at Ion Fury's "mapping help" discord channel and one of the devs told someone it can be impossible to delete objects in the void. Thats the kind of thing that scares people away, why the fuck would simply deleting something be an issue? It's too bad their modern editor is still similarly buggy and arcane to the orginals.

>>5817041
>doom 16 is already forgotten
no active discussion doesn't mean it's forgotten. same goes for doom 3, just to cite an example.

looking on a variaty of boorus for shit to put on my folder
most of it is outright terrible but I like digging

>>5817125
sorry Todd, everything you touch turns to shite

>>5817028
The gameplay is good but the whole "badass power fantasy" marketing makes me cringe. I thought we played games because they were fun, not to self-insert as the protagonist.

>>5817110
neither do the people that treat gzdoom as a definitive source port for someone's first playthrough and use the doom fandom wiki

>>5817028
No, you're not the only guy on /vr/ with a shitty contrarian opinion, isn't that why you come to this board? To feel validated in unconditionally hating something because it's new?

>>5817128
nothing wrong with tracing a judge dredd panel

>>5817137
that one is neat tho thats why I saved it

>>5817130
>no no no please no please hate nu doom please god I just wish everyone hated it why can't everyone be like me no no no

>>5817130
nice shitpost!

>>5817140
have sex

>>5817132
Doomguy was a self insert but one that is "doomed" hence the name
He was supposed to be an unlucky marine that makes it out of the trouble despite the shit he goes through
It's why i'm glad Doomslayer or whoever you call him does pain grunts again
A hero needs flaws and challenges to overcame, specially for a series associated with action and difficulty

>>5817141
thanks, didn't even need Todd's help to shit that one out

>>5817147
Do you need help to shit?

>>5817143
>grrr me HATE zoomer game!
>but me LOVE zoomer meme!
Is this the part where I tell you to dilate or?

>>5817135
nobody cares what source port and mod you play, nerd

>>5817154
no that's where you call me a cumbrain, keep up!

what is the secondary fire for the life leech for again?

kurashiki always brings a smile to my face

>>5817159
depends on the version of the game, plasma pak/one unit is turret

>>5817154
Don't engage and move on.

>>5816963
ENOUGH ALREADY

>>5817169
is that why trannies are review bombing the game?

>>5817159
>>5817167
oh what it's FOR you ask? Deals a shitload of Arcane damage, so you can see the alt zombie/butcher death animation. Can fuck up a monster closet if you know one's coming. It's also fun to spam in co-op.

>>5817169
I hope that's real. Whatever gets those psychos screaming and crying the hardest is alright in my books.

>>5816979
eBay

>>5817186
I wish. I just replaced the texture with a shoddy edited one.

>>5816963
Oh look a western developer.

Fuck me RTCW is fun

>>5817169
>>5817186
>>5817194
Can't tell if this is just general edgelord shitposting or people seething over John Romero not being the boomer /pol/tard you guys hoped he was.

>>5817169
Kek

>>5817130
It technically had a big impact on gameplay mods

>>5817198
except for that one time stealth isn't optional

>>5817207
I think I hit a nerve

Love the Strange Journey crossovers

>>5817216
You can just blaze through those if you know where everything is

>>5817207
I don't like John ever since that time he made me his bitch. It was quite embarassing.

>>5817207
what does it even have to do with Romero

>>5817232
I'm more mad at the fact he associated himself with a rather fishy charity by accident
If I recall correctly one teen died because they fucked up his prescriptions

>>5817238
wasn't hbomberguy related to it?
doesn't that guy has some fishy story on him as well?

>>5817241
I think he was part of some oldass trolling forum, think KiwiFarms but for ye olde days
not sure if I'm mixing websites up, apparently Jim and ZQ came from the same place as well

It's quite an unfortunate side-effect of Doom being an old boomercore title that it attracts people to the general who like to spout their hot opinions at each other as if they were in the nursing home

What's so wrong with live and let live

>>5817254
This is 4chan.
But I like your attitude anon, I wish more people felt that way these days.

The AI in Ion Fury is terrible

>>5817254
Some people won't leave us and our domain alone, so we naturally react passive aggressive. We step back, they further encroach on us. We apologize, they say it's not enough. We complain, they destroy our careers and social standing.

You see, we didn't start this horrible mess, but we will end it sooner or later.

>>5817265
Why are you like this

>>5817262
I'm more annoyed by the performance. A build engine game with a terrible frame rate and screen tearing in 2019? Are they kidding?
Its great when its running well though.

>>5817204
we really need an SMT mod.

>>5817278
there is one at least, it's just not very good
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58310

>>5817271
I just want to be left alone, playing video games. That is all.

>>5817238
>>5817241
This will be long and retarded.

Basically an unfunny SJW enormous asshat comedian called Graham Lineham or some shit shat all over a transgender children charity called Mermaids, said charity is fucking suspect as all hell and had just lost some funding or something hbomberguy decided to virtue signal for it by doing streams and raising money for them, journalists, celebrities and ecelebs decided to virtue signal off the back of that virtue signaling, and that's where Romero comes in, and then that "thank you Romero" project goes one step further and virtue signals off of his virtue signaling.

tl;dr SJW asshat broken clock is right once, doesn't matter, other fuckwits start doing shit to support and virtue signal for a deeply suspicious charity.

>>5817283
Why do you pretend there is someone out to get you and take your games away

>>5817285
Graham Linehan is great. "I hear you're a racist now Father!"

>>5817285
one of the reasons I would never associate myself with woke types, if there is something fucked up going on they'd rather go full catholic mode and circle the wagons instead of addressing the problem, just look at the whole JY shitshow, oh god I'd rather not get into that its not even Doom related

>>5817272
Try using adaptative sync. You really shouldn't be getting framedrops, it's a bug.
But yes the shooting isn't interesting, the AI is bad, the weapons are boring and I'm not impressed by the level design when the AI works so badly with them (hitscan in big maps, great) I don't understand what they're trying to do with this game

>>5817291
Turns out he was entirely projecting with that and a lot of his other shit.

>>5817286
You can't be this naive or blind.

>>5817262
So? It's still challenging because of the way the enemies are pitted against you in combinations. Just like the old FPS.

>>5817302
I am, none of the fixes work for me. I have a shit machine but it still can play things more demanding than this without any issue. I guess all I can hope for is a patch.

>>5817314
You say you want to be left alone, playing videogames. Who is knocking on your door and taking away your videogames?

>>5817328
So called "journalists", opportunistic politicians, people who entered this field solely for their BS agendas.

>>5817335
You're telling me journalists and politicians are knocking on your door and taking away your Quake CD?

>>5817339
Yes, im sure thats exactly what he literally meant to convey. Reductive dumb fuck.

>>5817321
Its not as challenging or as fun as it could be considering enemies will just stand their like retards half the time.

>>5817262
the AI in Doom is virtually nonexistent.
It consists of the DopeFish like instructions (swim-swim-hungry)
In Doom's case it's "wander randomly -look for player -attack if sees player"

>>5817350
Dude. You're in /vr/. We dont know anything better. Enemies randomly crouching is hyper-advanced AI to us.

>>5817327
You need a bit of performance overhead for adaptative sync to work correctly, maybe turn down the resolution?

>>5817354
Fuck Barney.

>>5817348
I asked a straight forward question, he responded with a straight forward answer. If you have an objection with the question, you can say it. Save me the trouble and tell me what he actually means to say. Who is going to take anon's ability to be left alone and play videogames away?

>>5816984
Good levels by competent designers.

>>5816984
- More weapons. Go wild in best BUILD tradition.
- A post apocalyptic wasteland & desert zone, complete with a forgotten and destroyed city overrun by Raiders and mutants
- A separate quick attack, like Dukes boot

>>5816984
More weapons and more enemies.

Maybe a valentine's/Halloween theme to go with dukes summer/winter theme.

Basically IF is a good base but it absolutely needs more enemies and weapons.

>>5817362
Not that anon, but even on minimum resolution the game was still a slideshow. Certain computers just seem to run like shit no matter what.

>>5817385
>A post apocalyptic wasteland & desert zone
Holy shit please. Go full Dredd/Cursed Earth, its perfect for Build engine

>>5817367
what

>>5817047
I'm not bitter. But I sure don't like how dumb and shitflingy the threads have become.

Are there any charismatic levels in IF, like Hollywood Holocaust, Death Row, Abyss, Dark Side, Hotel Hell, Duke Burger, Derelict, Golden Carnage etc? Or is everything just random Build porn?

>>5817220
I think John did.

>>5817236
He's pro-trans rights.

What are some good Quake techbase maps? I feel like storming the facility.

>>5817265
>>5817335
None of that has ever happened to you, stop living vicariously through rich celebrities and media controversy. If columbine didn't take down Doom nothing will.

>>5817426
There was a couple of good ones in the /vr/ map pack. Have you played it?

>>5817426
AD has a few

>>5817254
Drop the bomb. Exterminate them all.

>>5817463
Oh shit that's out?
>>5817464
Yeah I really liked the AD techbase maps. Terror Fuma and Crucial Error were my favorites.

How did voidpoint manage to get him for the enemy voice lines in Ion Fury?

>>5817469
How about we just kill you instead

>>5817481
I'ts not the final version, and it needs some fine tuning but you can play it right now if you dont want to wait anymore
https://mega.nz/#!62pigC5Q!cD1OpRFwAtJG2IeXu8jWk1yrDr01Pd2_LwG8x4xbeyA

I wonder: How easy was it to put up the /vr/ stuff's downloads with Mega?

>>5817371
>Who is going to take anon's ability to be left alone and play videogames away?
If the news lately means anything, the Trump administration, apparently. I'm not sure how that fits into the anti-SJW narrative though

>>5817497
hhhhmmm, I wonder who was bitching about violence in videogames back when Doom 2016 was announced?

I 'member
Its almost like pundits and gaming publications alike change their tune when its politically convenient

>>5817504
>Its almost like pundits and gaming publications alike change their tune when its politically convenient
what about "the other side" when that and the mortally challenged joke happened?
it really feels like a fucking weird ass tennis game

>>5817497
>>5817504
Midway got scolded for their advertisement by the board that approves games for their ratings or whatever. Told them not to ever do that shit again when they had an ultra violent Mortal Kombat skit.
>Oh and fuck Donald Trump

>>5817494
Is it a good site for hosting personal stuff or anything?

>>5817509
>it really feels like a fucking weird ass tennis game
Oh I'll grant you that, it IS a fucking weir ass tennis game

This whole culture war shit is nonsense and deep down I hate it despite falling for it from time to time

>>5817539
>deep down I hate it despite falling for it from time to time
Same. Mostly because a) I know I'm not ever going to do anything to change it and b) Time spent getting mad and posting about it would be better spent playing, or at least talking about things I like.

>>5817539
>>5817548
On the plus side, nothing lasts for ever, especially politics. This insane culture war will just be a bad memory some day in the near future, and another annoying thing will take its place. I have no idea how this will finally end with all these crazy indoctrinated people on both sides though. I hope it'll be peaceful regardless

>all this talk about anti-video game violence
Guys, it's not just one side.
There is a type of person who exists in all parts of the world at all ages, who wants to have control over other people and feel morally righteous while doing it. They bitched about everything from rock 'n' roll to Dungeons & Dragons to dice and playing cards. Whenever a person like that obtains power, they will always go after what's popular, and the only reason they would go against that crusade to try and amass more power (i.e. if your political opponent is already going after it and you want the votes of people who enjoy that popular thing). Jack Thompson and Anita Sarkesian are the same archetype with the same goal, they just use different arguments on why we should pursue that goal because they're on opposite sides. This type of person is apolitical.

>>5817568
This is all true, apart from how Anita whats her face doesn't have any opinion of her own, she's just a paid figurehead for some whiny dude.

>Mass shooting, good time to attempt to tax video game companies!

>>5817578
Governments have been trying, but they keep getting shut down by lawsuits pointing out that vidya is a form of protected expression, and taxing it violates the First Amendment.

>>5817302
>I don't understand what they're trying to do with this game

Build porn. Everybody is saying it.


Slight tweak in game design and it would be 10\10. Better Shelly, quick melee, not even asking for more quirky weapons like duke but at least a rocket launcher.
That said it's a fine game I wish we had more. Hoping Wrath is more than just Quake 1.

>>5817484
Seriously. Tell me im not the only one who hears Will Ferrell screaming when the enemies say "OVER HERE" and other lines

So here's my feedback for anons "testmap.wad"

For starters, the map is incredibly small. I was able to beat it in under 30 seconds with all kills. I know its just a test, but damn that's short. I liked the texturing and lighting, but the architecture is a bit bland. All the sectors consist of 90 degree angles, which makes all of the rooms to look the same. The gameplay was fine, but there
was very little in this version of the map. Overall, you did pretty good. Keep posting new revisions of this map, I'm interested to see what you do with it.

>>5817618
I don't really see it.
I find the voices annoying too, I actually preferred the enemy voices in Dusk if we're comparing throwback shooters. There was something creepy and menacing about the enemy chatter in that game.

>>5817635
>HERETIC
>BLOOD

>>5817672
I was thinking more of the muffled voices of the gasmask soldiers, but yeah, the cultists were creepy too.

We need more Wild West games.

>buy Fresh Supply after plaing Ion Maiden
>turns out all the renderers are hardware based
Well just fucking kill me then
Between nBlood and BloodGDX what should I be using if I don't have a dedicated graphics card and need to play in Software mode?

>>5817163
is there any other state of mind re: kurashiki?

>>5817694
BloodGDX. 300+ fps on an intel Athom tablet.

>>5817719
Her states of mind are "knees" and "squish".

>>5817408
He loves you, and you love him.

>>5817539
Clearly don't hate it enough to make a Doom general about it for two straight threads.

>>5817354
And it's still better than the mostly static Ion Fury AI. They barely give chase and this is only worsened by how build handles alerting enemies by sound.

Finally got to work on monster placement.

>>5817635
I don't mind the voices that much, since it really helps to find where the non-hitscanners are before they gank me form behind, but a little more variety would have been nice, maybe color-specific voice lines too? That way I wouldn't have to hear the bow charging to know I need to get the fuck out of there ASAP on MF

>>5817731
Awesome, thanks anon. What's the version with JRE?

>>5817130
The only thing he touched was your mom, and there wasn't much left to ruin.

>>5817254
>implying these people are older than 20 at most

>>5817278
>>5817282
Are there any SMT games that would've had sprites that would work well in Doom? Failing that, have Persona 5's demon models been ripped?

>>5817783
>chase
Doom enemies basically just do some wall hugging and direction changing

>Die constantly to the wave survival section at the end of episode one of Ion Fury on UV
>Eventually luck out and manage to kill everything using all my portable health kits
>secret hunt
>Discover infinite bowling bombs in the nearby dumpster
This kind of thing always happens in these games.

>>5816984
A tropic vacation themed episode ala Duke Caribbean : Life's A Beach, where everyone is dressed up for it, sunglasses, sunhats, hawaii shirts, shorts and bikinis, etc.

Shelly in daisy dukes, sandals, sunhat, sunglasses, tanktop/bikini top, sunscreen on her nose, with a big powerful super soaker that can fire a freezing shot as an alt, and explosive pineapples or coconuts for bombs.
Don't even have to be substantial changes, just reskin most things to be a vacation theme, with a couple of new things here and there, and make some vacation themed levels with some cheery and festive music.
They'll pay for crashing her vacation.

Any decent doom level editors for linux? Thinking of finagling Doombuilder 2 to work via wine.

>>5817837
>Shelly in daisy dukes
Banned from the gaming industry just for this.

>>5817837
I'd rather start with something that lets me reuse a lot of the already existing assets, because redrawing everything into a vacation theme is a shit ton of work.

>>5817868
Just put some tropical hats on the monsters.
There aren't a lot of themes that let you reuse the assets I imagine. Something like... a Mars base... space station... Like its all very techy, ya know?

>>5817837
What's Duke shooting at?
My guess is people who listen to Jimmy Buffet.

Spiders. Spiders everywhere.

>>5817881
>1024
I see what they did there.

>>5817875
>just put a hat on every monster
>game has 2000+ single frames for character sprites

yeah, you do it. have fun.

>>5817881
Schpyders. I hate them.

>>5817881
The flying shits are far worse.

>>5817783
I dont know about ai, but in all build engine games the ai just seems to have one command and that is to follow the player once he finds it.

The only game I think they work better is blood, the cultists sometimes , probably on accident, do what looks like some side strafing shots from behind corners.

>>5817902
Loverboys alt fire is overpowered against these. Actually against all but the biggest enemies.

>>5817907
I really like the fucking gun, and they seem to know its OP, since the panzer dragoon like markers only stay like for a second.
But still it just ruins corridors filled with enemies.

>>5817904
You know what BUILD games severely lack? Monster infighting. Of course just among different classes, not between soldiers.

>>5817907
Its OP against the spiders too, but at least those are stuck on the ground and can't silently creep up on you while you're busy.

>>5817914
Yeah the more time passes the more I realize those are the fun parts in classic fps, alongside poor attempts at platforming. It makes you feel on an adventure.

How many times i reloaded saves just for fun, to see if the soldiers in half life won or lost against the aliens. I love those soldiers.

>>5817914
Funny enough, Witchaven of all games actually has infighting and makes a point of showing it off right on the first level with the different-skinned goblins killing each other.

>>5817894
Not that dude but small edits to 2k worth of frames is doable, mostly you're changing the base rotations and then applying those changes with minor edits to the rest of the frames.

>>5817921
That's goblin racism.

>>5817932
Yeah I know, still not doing it.

>>5817868
Aren't they pre-rendered? You could edit the models and do new frames, right? Not immediate but faster than touching them up by hand.

What about wildly grown jungles?

>remember the last three rows of missions on Thief 2
who thought it was a good idea to recycle the same mission right before the end?
I mean you could at least space it out

Is the Build Engine the sweet spot between early FPSes' simplicity and the (sometimes unnecessary) complexity of later FPSes (even by the late 90s)?

Seriously, it seems like the perfect middle ground. Not saying the Build Engine games are necessarily THE BEST FPSes EVER. Just that it was the first time that it felt like "the sky was the limit" in the FPS genre and that the potential seemed limitless (or at least as high as it NEEDED to be). And also that the style of those games (both in terms of gameplay and content) felt pretty much ideal for what FPS games should be.

>>5817881
The real annoyance is the fucking drones. For one thing, they don't make a sound when they fire. And for another thing, it seems like the loverboy altfire is the ONLY way to deal with them reliably. With a shotgun you'll miss most pellets and take like 3 shots. The crossbow also takes 3 hits to kill and it's possible to miss. But using the loverboy alt slows you down, making you vulnerable. They're just annoying to fight.

>>5817947
Enemy sprites are prerendered, but colorized and heavily touched up afterwards in photoshop. It's time consuming, no matter how you do it.

As for new wall/floor/decoration textures for mapping; that's easier, but making a complete new set keeps you busy for a while.

>>5817894
I've done similar shit.

>>5817953
Well, it certainly is better than that fucking quake engine and its offspring. Sprites + voxels look objectively more aesthetic.

>>5817950
I agree it should be spaced out, but for whatever reason it didn't bother me when playing.

>>5817953
It is.
Duke Nukem at least some levels like the legendary first feel amazing. It´s interactive fluid, but not labyrinthine.
The last games of a generation are usually better than the new ones of a new one. It applies to everything like cars etc.
I think only Deus Ex reached the same quality in terms of interactive level if that makes some sense.

The first full 3D games that made me feel the future was going to be amazing was of course Thief and Unreal.

>>5817894
Modders would do it for fun for free so why can't Devs do it for paying costumers

>>5817969
>Quake Monster Models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprx6nKZmbU

>>5817973
>made me feel the future was going to be amazing
And boy, were you wrong.

>>5817978
Honestly Quake 1 models dont bother me so much like Quake 2 or Thief and System Sock 2 horrible triangle people.
The only thing in Thief that I really disliked back then, the guards always with their swords in hand.

Quake models are really well done.

>>5817980
Yeah, looking back at it, I dont even blame Halo, it was an okay game.

>>5817975
Ask them. Devs have limited budgets and time for a project(and for DLC), forcing them to move on or cut support after some time. With modders it's often a labor of love. They might spend many months or even years working and iterating on a project.

What's your best original weapon idea? The one you've been saving for your masterpiece game.

>>5817992
I really hope Wrath: Aeon of Ruin turns out great since it seems like the dude's passion project.

>>5817894
It's tedious, but not a monumental task.

>>5818010
Great, knock yourself out and make a mod with cyborgs in Sombreros or something.

>>5817426
Rubicon Rumble is AD tier and will absolutely give you your fix.

>>5817426
Travail starts with some really big and cool base maps

>>5817894
I mean, Sunstorm did it to Duke back in the 90s.

You know what...the shotgun in Ion Fury is a lot more realistic than what most (even modern) games show. Real shotguns are not notoriously inaccurate with a comical wide spread.

>>5818036
Fucking this.
It's like these people never went trap shooting before.

>>5818036
The fire effect still shows a big spread but its pretty accurate yeah.

Btw don't you guys feel there is something weird with those gunfire trail effects, they dont seem to align well with the guns firing animation, only those two the fuccboy and the shotgun.

>>5818051
I think it's almost a required trope/meme at this point that shotguns in games can't hit anything beyond 30 ft.

>>5818036
Doom, Quake and Duke 3D did this too.

>>5818064
It's kind of depressing how badly represented shotguns are in most vidya.

>>5817894
I haven't done it on that scale, but I have done it.

Are there any mods for GzDoom that add colored text to the classic hud a la Crispy Doom / PrBoom?

What seems to be the UV equivalent for Ion Fury, would it be the similarly named Ultra Viscera, or is Maximum Fury not as hard as it's being portrayed as?

>>5818217
Viscera = more enemies. Maximum = same as viscera but faster enemies.

>>5818228
Don't they also drop less stuff?

This was a neat secret. Also wasn't expecting a Gug as the boss of the level.

>>5818213
Yes. Fullscreen Status Bar can give you Boom colors on the HUD.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863

>>5818217
>>5818228
Maximum Fury has more enemies than Ultra Viscera, and a lot tougher enemies as well, a lot more bow cultists in the first few levels, the scorpion missile drone thing shows up in the third map, et cetera.

I don't think anyone is going to say that UV isn't a "real" difficulty like sub-UV Doom difficulties, but MF isn't totally impossible, and I'd put it around Well Done in Blood.

>>5818230
I haven't noticed a difference myself, if anything I got more grenades in MF than UV.

>>5818242
>et cetera
*exetera

Do all boss fights in Ion Fury have a hidden double damage powerup hidden somewhere?

I want Shelly to step on me

As someone who's found it hard to go back to playing Doom after Quake, will I like Ion Maiden and Build Engine games in general?

>>5818267
Have you not played Duke 3D before? Ion Fury is very much like Duke 3D.

>>5818276
The only time I played Duke 3D was when a friend had the trial on his Xbox 360 back in 2011. It's one of those things where I've been meaning to play to see what it's like, but then I went to Quake from Doom, and I've found it hard to go back to games that have limited level design.

>>5818256
I want her to scarf a bunch of health-restoring Chinese takeout and belch in my face.

To the people who have already finished Ion Fury on UV or MF:

Do you ever need to switch off the Loverboy alt-fire? Because seriously not kidding, it seems like the best solution 9 times out of 10. The pucks seem extremely underpowered even with their alt-explosion. Crossbow only seems decent for the BFG alt-fire room clearing. Other options seem underwhelming in comparison to the trusty Loverboy alt-fire and ocassional locked in bowling balls.

>>5818298
>Do you ever need to switch off the Loverboy alt-fire?
Sometimes enemies are too far to be killed by the alt fire. Can't also be used for the shooting range minigame.

>>5818252
Seems that way. I'm glad for it though, that wave survival battle in episode one was a shit. Figures I'd find it AFTER the fight, but I hear most people did.

>>5818298
I'm not that far in, but I find it too easy to abuse and like to switch up the weapons. The alt fire is too damn good, and makes the more hectic arena battle style sections easier to deal with.

>>5818298
If you have good aim the shotgun is really good too. Just aim for the head and the enemy drop like flies.

>>5818298
Depends how good you are at head shots. Make sure to fully disable auto aim in the setting, it's super easy with the bow and shotgun

>>5818256
>>5818290
i want her to shoot you two

>>5818232
Map Jam 9 was fucking great.

>>5818326
That is also okay.

>>5818316
Exploding guys with perfect shotgun headshot is such a pleasure, missed that thing since FEAR.

>>5818283
Duke 3D does about the most you can with 2.5D, the level design is not very limited at all.

>>5818339
Alright, I'll pick up Ion Maiden once my paycheck comes in.

What's the difference between Hard and Nightmare in Quake 1? What's considered to be the standard difficulty maps are balanced around?

>>5818353
Play Hard. Nightmare is a meme difficulty like in every id game aside from Doom 4.

>>5818353
Nightmare is sorta like Doom's UVFast; max enemy count and will almost always be attacking.

>>5818298
The lockon for the Loverboy was very finicky for me; it hardly ever worked.
The crossbow is a straight upgrade to the shotgun, aim for the head and it gibs all of the smaller enemies. For how I played, the game seemed to reward me using the entire arsenal depending on what enemies I was fighting.

>>5818362
No.

>>5818368
Same here. Lockon takes more time than just manual headshotting, which is crucial in case of hitscanners. Still invaluable against spiders/drones though.

>>5818378
I never had an issue with the spiders. In smaller groups I just whack them with my stick, in larger numbers I use an explosive. I always saved my SMGs for drones, since it shreds them more quickly than any other weapon. I used the lockon most in the darker tunnel levels where I normally couldn't see enemies on my own.

>>5818378
>>5818368
The other issue is that you can't run while using it, which leaves you open to getting shot at unless the enemies are at longish range.

>>5818382
Lockon is just consistent in that case, with baton you can miss since they jump a lot.
Heard about SMG being super effective against airborne enemies, haven't tried myself.

life's a beach

>>5818240
This is nice, but it's a shame that it doesn't seem to "squish" the screen downwards like the regular status bar. Feels a bit awkward in comparison.

>>5818240
>>5818487
Pic related, comparison.

>>5816948
Personally I'm a bit more interested in Quake II mapping. Under the right hands, it can be pretty damn cool. Besides, I'm a sucker for sci-fi.

https://youtu.be/LQBhZHZGIeM

>>5817238

So I found out that the revolver can take regular pistol ammo after going through all the .355 and have been playing around a bit in the firing range.

Is there any difference to using 9mm in it? The accuracy is more or less the same, but is it a bit weaker in damage than using the ammo the revolver was meant for?

>>5818327
Yeah, I just found the secret map, this shit is super cool. I love maps that go for the eldritch stuff hard. The last arena though was fucking mean though.

How many zones/episodes are there in Ion Fury?

>>5817247
He was from Metokur.
Hbomberguy did some pretty unsavory things back then, his entire shtick these days is troll's remorse and it's just tiresome given how much of a pos he is. Any and every male that evangelizes the way he does has skeletons in their closet which is why you always get this slimy feeling when you see and hear them do it.

>>5818497
left is the proper aspect ratio though

>>5816942
Hellforge released.

https://twitter.com/AmuscariaArts/status/1162968692357025792

>>5818698
Sick

>>5818682
That's the point. The only thing I changed between these images is the presence of the mod. The mod's status bar, as the name implies, forces a "true" fullscreen without the squished ratio-- and there's no way to disable it.

>>5818487
>>5818497
That bothers me too and is why I basically always use the split statusbar option of that mod.

Hey guyze

I'm trying to mod Ion Fury (yeah, I know, not retro, but it's a build game after all!) and I hit a wall.

The game grp file won't be opened by grp file studio or other duke3d tested utils, instead, it will open as a zip.

The thing is while I can extract the .CON files and .MAP, etc, when I try to replace it inside the original file, it just won't boot anymore. My guess is that I'm screwing the repack.

Any ideas?

>>5816936
Are there any books about Doom mapping like there are about Duke 3D mapping?

>>5818760
None.
Learn from mapping, or watching other mapping.
Or just by playing bad maps and thinking how you could do better!

>>5818614
Was Ion Fury designed to be on a full campaign now?
They're going to step back and do a episodes thing?
To be honest, I don't care, just curious how this turns out.

>>5818497
>>5818240
To be quite honest I don't care about the HUD. I also think that it's designed very well and doesn't have the need to be changed...

Daily reminder that JackTheMaster101 was the person who helped to kickstarted terrywadding in 2011 underneath the alias Joey/JoeyDoomer. Also went by the aliases henryk johnny where he made AVGNDOOM and the first terrywad for strife.

>>5818782
>JACKA0
Poor child...

>>5818778
Colored numbers is a nice way of allowing you an idea of your strength just with peripheral vision.

>>5818787
Maybe, but I've never needed it.
I like minimalism.

>>5818783

>>5818790
Horse teeth.

>>5818792
How could you

Found this secret ion Ion Fury, level 2.

What is this referencing?

>>5818838
I think it's a reference to Marathon

>>5817837
I just finished life's a beach yesterday.
it's my favourite official expansion by far, tho as always in duke, the boss fight was a snooze fest

>>5818757
Someone on a /v/ thread said that you need to download gfs31.zip from this site to recompress (?) the package. I have not used it myself.
http://dukeworld.duke4.net/classic%20dukeworld/other/build/&s=n&o=d

>>5816936
Marathon has been remastered with high resolution textures and released for free a while back:
https://alephone.lhowon.org/

When do you think we'll try our next quake mapping project?
Its the only game i know how to map for.

>>5818698
Holy shit that weapon with the face freaks me out

>>5818862
>high resolution textures
usually that's the moment when I put the thing in the trash and forget about it

How important are sprites really for a mod? If I got cool ideas but the sprites aren't anything other than copies from other games, is that ok? Or are we sick of seeing the Duke Rocket Launcher at this point?

>>5818870
It says it's specifically the textures from the xbox live arcade version, for free.

>>5817978
quake is the best looking out of all early 3D games

>>5818870
you can disable them

>>5818875
>>5818880
I see, I'll def check it out then

>>5818871
you could go complete ripoff mode if you get the concepts to work (as in have them be good and cool and fun), then replace the assets later down the line
or be term and just have artists handed to you

>>5818871
>>5818882
or do what Netronian chaos guy did and draw basic boxy/circly shapes in Paint in an approximate form of what you want and call it a day.

>>5818862
yeah aleph one came out 8 years ago, it's not news

>>5818882
>or be term and just have artists handed to you
he can't keep getting away with it

>>5818879
Nah

>>5818908
Yah. The only 90s 3D game that looks better than quake is System Shock 2 (very very well done lighting), and paradoxically its character models are worse than quake!

>>5818914
Quake's 3d character models and animations have aged like milk. Sprite-based games have a timeless comic book look. Hand-painted lighting like in Ion Fury is far more aesthetic when done correctly compared to Quake's shitty lightmaps.

>>5818920
That's not exactly a fair comparison as Ion Fury is running on a souped up source port.

>>5818908
Nah

>>5818914
Q1 models looked like dogshit when it came out, in motion and especially in screenshots.

>>5818914
Unreal is best looking 90's 3D game

>>5818946
Unreal looks ugly as shit.

>>5818950
yo mom is ugly as shit

>>5818936
No!

>>5818946
It has good lighting, awesome weapons and probably the best soundtrack ever put into a game, but noooo. Mismatched resolution filtered textures, even with the secondary texture it looks bad.

>>5818864
I mean you could make your own minisode at your own pace, I'd play it.

>>5818920
quake made the best use of it's limitation, every enemy has a distinct silouette and telegraphs its attacks clearly
sprite based games like Shadow Warrior and Ion Fury have only the colors of the enemy's pants distinguishing what type of enemy it is, wew lad

>>5817953
I hate the item system.
This is the only reason I can't love Build games as much as I wanted to

>>5818969
That's gone. Only medkits and radars now. Two hotkeys ain't so bad, right?

>>5818838
Hmm... that's one doomed space marine.

>>5818950
Nibba you gay

>>5818965

shut up sperglord

>>5818969
cry more

>>5818965
Yes

>>5818982
>>5818972
That's really neat. I can live with that.

>>5818979
>>5818983
First of all you're wrong, second of all you're gay and your shit all retarded and lastly, what's the last thing you enjoyed except the taste of semen?

You know, come to think of it, Blum's classic leveldesigns are essentially Myst.

Think about it. High contrast, spacious, low detail (on everything that isn't meant to catch attention) terrain with A E S T H E T I C S. Imposing unmoving buildings, architectural details and machinery. Giant cogs stuck in a loop, moving platforms and crushers. The desolate vibe of the level being basically like a snapshot, stuck outside of time or something. Constant subtle mindfuckery.

Even the random codelocks could be seen as a pun on Myst in which those codelocks did have solutions you were meant to discover, whereas here you are just bruteforcing and rolling past.

Is it Myst? It seems quite Myst honestly.

Also, the Blum levels for the Alien World Order doesn't really have it. Some of the classic ones don't either, but most of them do.

>>5818757
>Ion Fury (yeah, I know, not retro, but it's a build game after all!)
Is retro, it's a build game.

Total noob to Build Engine in general, what movement techs does it have? Straferunning SEEMS to be a bit faster, and I swear I only managed a jump with the SR50 input. Are they not actually present, are there others?

>>5818991
buttblasted tranny

>>5818997
is quadrilateral cowboy retro? It's running on an unmodified quake 2 engine

>>5819003
damage boosting is common to all build engine games, also door clipping
the rest really depends on the game

>>5819019
Since the engine is from 97, it arguably is retro.

>>5819019
You mean Quake 4. So no.

>>5819036
nah it's quake 2's engine not doom 3's
there's no quake 4 engine unless you count that time Carmack was into megatextures but hasn't seen Mad Max yet

>>5819049
it uses idTech4
Doom 3 engine.

>>5819049
idTech 4. Doom 3. Quake 4.
You're imagining things.

>>5819003
In Blood you slide really weirdly on other solid entities (monsters, obstacles, etc), thought arguably that might be speedtech rather than your usual movement tech
There's a bridge in the Death Wish mod that has railings made of short poles, grinding on those railings makes you go into plaid

>>5818838
I was wondering this too. End of Videodrome maybe but it's a stretch.

>>5817238
>crossdressing doomguy
imagine a zero suit doomguy haha

Mapster32 is so awful. Why hasn't there been any better alternatives made?

>>5819091
Probably due to lack of interest compared to Doom and Quake mapping

>>5819094
I am the only one that does Quake 2 singleplayer mapping yet somehow kduske added support for it in Trenchbroom...

slightly off topic, but how can one obtain the duke nukem megaton edition? or is eduke32 just as good?

>>5819115
Megaton was only good for steam netplay
now it's dead thanks to pitchford and DWT.

use eDuke.

>>5819115
Just download the regular game and expansions from here. Megaton edition is not worth it.
https://mega.nz/#F!U6wl0RgA!qsuYTh9QCSKTAF7EoXCUQg

>>5818923
The "souped up" source port has nothing to do with the lighting or any graphical proficiency barring Polymost, all that is 100% base Build.

Not to bring politics bullshit to yet another fucking thread but the Ion Fury Devs are getting "canceled"

Seems like the trash fire started in Resetera is spreading to twitter and now journos are jumping in as well, textbook dog piling we have seen a thousand times by now.
If you can tell the devs they are not literally nazis and send them encouraging words to counteract the mob please do so.
That's it.

>>5819160
>the Ion Fury Devs are getting "canceled"
Oh yeah?

>>5819160
>>5819162
They're getting what now? Aren't they a private company?

>>5819162
>>5819170
It's crazy people lingo for when a person or company commits a perceived grievance against a protected group.
No matter how small or flimsy, the initial claim will snowball out of control and a mob of even crazier people will start dissecting every little word and action of the chosen target. This mob will then try to pummel the target into submission with a coordinated social media firestorm.
It will not stop until the person or company apologizes, but in fact I am lying because apologizing usually makes things worse.


In this case one of the Ion Fury devs said rather innocuous shit on discord, crazy people ran with it and now you got a Daily Dot writer accusing the devs of being against transhumanism and....following the GOG twitter account?
I DON'T FUCKING GET IT EITHER.
I'm rather disappointed people in the "community" like Jimmy are jumping in as well.
It's all so fucking dumb and tiresome holy shit.

>>5819179
Nobody cares

>>5819179
>accusing the devs of being against transhumanism
Well you do spend 10-16 hours blowing up humans with cybernetic enhancements.

>>5819179
>I'm rather disappointed people in the "community" like Jimmy are jumping in as well.
I'm not, there's an awful lot of nastiness going around with the community these days.

Who the hell is Jimmy

>>5819179
I hope the devs keep their integrity, those people will never be satiated.

>>5819054
>>5819056
well their previous games used quake 2's engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVu2yTUYSD4

>>5819189
Jimmy Wales ofc

>>5819189
Jimmy Paddock

>>5819189
Composer for a lot of music shit, Adventures of Square guy, A Boy and His Barrel guy.

>>5819189
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/James_Paddock_(Jimmy)

Fuck Alien eradication looks really good. It's been ages since I felt so at home in an Alien game.

Love those alien trilogy sprites. And what a great 1st level.

>>5816936
What do you folks think about this?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107104-screem-the-palette/?tab=comments#comment-2001259

It's intended to make Doom on LCD screens look more like it used to look on CRT's, with deeper reds.

>>5818914
I agree with the textures. The more sci fi textures on the dark engine look amazing, and Ion Fury reminded me a lot of SS2.
An SS2 type game on the build engine would be my wet dream.

On Thief 1\2 the more steampunk medieval textures they used also look good, but for some reason they look cleaner on SS2.

>>5819191
Yeah, best thing to do is bunker down and weather the storm until they find easier prey.

>>5819231
This is fuck boi shit that soon guy would kill you for. Go KYS

>>5819259
what?
>Fuck boi shit
huh?
>Soon guy
who?
>KYS
why?

>>5816936
Newbie on doomwads here. Ive downloaded the latest version of beautiful doom. Where the fuck is pk3 file? Theres one enormous zip file and thats it.

>>5819282
pk3 is just zip by another name so that people don't get confused and unpack it for no reason
If this zip file has the usual lumps and directories inside (DECORATE, sprites/, textures/, etc), then it is the pk3 file you're looking for.

>>5819282
That zip is your pk3. PK3's are just zips.
Load it as any other file.

>>5819160
rip voidpoint.

Just tried Beautiful Doom since I hadn't heard of it until anon above mentioned it. It seems kinda tacky tee bee haich.

I prefer smaller modular improvements than a big ol' overhaul that has a bunch of bad looking mods mixed in with a couple good ones. To each their own though, I guess

>>5819160
>>5819179
Their fault for letting their inner /pol/tard out

>>5819360
oof

>>5819360
>>5819363
wow it's fucking nothing

>>5819252
Or alternatively you could shit up this thread with /pol/shit nonstop

>>5819360
That's not a /pol/ opinion, that's a rational opinion.
Voidpoint did literally nothing wrong.

>>5819365

>>5819373

>>5819374
>>5819379

>>5819369
>/pol/shit
You mean voidpoint? Yeah they're /pol/ alright.

>>5819385
>it doesn't offend me so it shouldn't offend anyone!

>>5819386
>>5819387
can't you go back to bitching about Half Life

>>5819379
What's your point? They have an opinion, and they're still right. SRS is mutilation.

>>5819386
>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER DILATE DILATE DILATE for the past 24 hours nonstop
Yeah there's no off-topic toxic shit in this thread at all.

>>5819390
I've never bitched about Half Life though?

>>5819360
>>5819363
>>5819374
>>5819379
>>5819386
These people are clearly not media trained. You're not really supposed to be showering everyone in your hot takes nowadays if you're a game dev, specially when your livelihood depends upon people not taking screenshots of your takes and starting witch hunts on you. Gamedev makes you a public figure and your discord server, in one way or the other, becomes your presentation card.

>>5819387
>it offends a tiny vocal minority, so it must offend everyone!
Look I can be a dipshit too!

>>5819391
Going by your logic it's ok to show everyone statistics to make black people look bad because hey, it's factual so it's ok right? Dumbass.
>>5819398
Nice strawman.

>>5819391
Heart surgery is mutilation.

>>5819401
>it's ok to show everyone statistics to make black people look bad because hey, it's factual so it's ok right?
well yes

>>5819393
>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER DILATE DILATE DILATE for the past 24 hours nonstop
Where?
>>5819391
Statistics prove that SRS reduces suicide in people with gender dysphoria.

video games

>>5819413
[No]

>>5819393

>>5819396
I know right? Maybe he was slightly drunk or high. I dont blame old gen Xs or actual boomers for being retarded on the internet and twitter. Even smart people if their ego lead them there, post the most retarded personal stream of consciousness of that moment opinions like it's nothing on the web.
And it's just opinions sure, but the zeitgeist is full of pathological hyenas that will devour you.
I knew a few "friends " that would cover me in pitch and set me on fire for having some opinions.
Granted you should have that right, but people forget the internet is not your diary or group of small friends.

But ever since the beginning of the internet I knew that unless anonymity is guaranteed you should not go on rants unless you know what you are doing. Its the basics of hiding your power level.

Granted western culture is fucking rotting from the inside right now. But even to fight it you need to be clever.

I apologize for this rant, I fucking hate twitter and discord. Thank God twitter never took off here.

>>5819396
This.

>>5819402
Not even close to the same thing. Mutilation is causing physical damage. A trans vagina is damage. It doesn't function on par with either set of normal genetalia.

>>5819396
while I agree that these guys need someone to do PR and the stated opinions could alienate a certain amount of people it just goes to show that the so called Overton Window is completely fucked

the wording may be tactless in places but none of these hot takes are all that damming, even when you take them in conjunction, if you ask normies outside of twitter they would probably agree with most of it
Why am I feeding this one retard that plays both sides of the issue anyways, it's not Doom

>>5819231
truecolor > trueboomer

>>5819427
You cause physical damage to a heart and the surrounding tissue when you perform open heart surgery, you are mutilating the chest, and it usually leaves a permanent scar.

>>5819413
sick fuck

>>5819405
>Statistics prove that SRS reduces suicide in people with gender dysphoria.
Not the statistics I've seen, and irrelevant because it's not the point I was making.

>>5819428
>but none of these hot takes are all that damming, even when you take them in conjunction, if you ask normies outside of twitter they would probably agree with most of it
you've been on 4chan too much, my dude. most people aren't as mysoginistic and transphobic as these people.

blaming " da ess jay double-us" is so childish it can only come from /pol/ nowadays.

please just report and ignore

>>5819396
Anyone who was interested in buying ion fury already bought it. Maybe half that number is waiting for a steam/gog sale. Trannies don't buy games, their livelyhood is not depending on anything here, they can do whatever the fuck they want. Now if Ion Fury sold poorly I feel for them, but ain't nothing they can do, pandering to or offending certain nutjobs will not make a blind bit of difference.

Same goes for big devs. Marketing budget >>> real or manufactured outrage.

>>5819436
Except it is the point because they're saying that srs is bad.

For those having problems with Ion Fury being "dark" - console variable r_ambientlight controls the radius after which all lighting dims to black.
Set it to something like 2-3 and you'll have no problem with excessively darkened areas.

The sector lighting and deliberately dark areas are not affected by it, only areas that are dimmed down due to distance.

>>5819439
>most people aren't as mysoginistic and transphobic as these people
Misogynistic, probably not. Transphobic? Unfortunately, be it social progress moving slowly or propaganda doing its trick, most people outside of these young essjaydubyas believe stuff that ranges from "mildly bigoted but not incredibly harmful" to outright hatred and dehumanization of trans people.

>>5819432
And in the end you've fixed the heart. A net gain.
This conversation is retarded. I'm done shitting up this thread arguing with idiots.
A final note: Why aren't we looking for better solutions to gender dysphoria? Everyone dove deep on this one proposed solution that seems to have any benefit other than normalizing the mental illness, and forcing the rest of society to walk on eggshells lest they offend someone into suicide.
Find a real solution.

>>5819432
But you have a functioning heart afterwards and arent still a depressed sad sack whose life entirely revolves around what label theyvare wearing that day.

>>5819449
I'm trans and I bought the game day 1.

>>5819432
I actually think trans people should never do surgery.

It's a feminine penis. Fuck, gender is so 1990s. And once the ego mellows out with age, as it always does, they realize hey I am glad I have an organ that works well to pee.

>>5819462
>A final note: Why aren't we looking for better solutions to gender dysphoria?

You cant cure narcissism.

>>5819458
People find it dark? I think it looks okay by default, maybe its my monitor settings.

>>5819459
Maybe they should start acting like people instead of trans nightmare monsters that cant let literally one word out of their mouth without talking about sex.

>>5819459
Maybe in Alabama where they're so sensitive and right wing that they straight up ban things like Arthur's gay episode. Either way trans people are becoming so normalized that the WHO doesn't even register it as a mental illness anymore.
>>5819462
>Everyone dove deep on this one proposed solution that seems to have any benefit other than normalizing the mental illness
See above, it's not a mental illness.

>>5819462
>>5819463
You also need a heart to function, you don't need a dick or a pussy to live day to day, whereas in the end, gender confirming surgery can help leave a person with a better functioning mind.

Is the "You've got to keep them separated" thing a reference to Ghostbusters or something else?

Also has anyone figured out how to reduce enemy bark frequency?

>>5819396
Holy shit these devs are more retarded than I thought. Their fucking public twitter is following accounts like these.

>>5819472
Because every single trans person acts like that, right? It's totally not an incredibly fringe section that's deliberately highlighted and signal boosted by bad actors who want to smear the community at large to help dehumanize them, right?

>>5819458
another comparison

>>5819472
Good job proving the other side right, idiot.

>>5819481
Every trans person I notice yes. They arent normal functioning people because if they were normal functioning people I couldn't tell they were trans now could i?