/vr/ - Retro Games

I heard Wipeout was pretty bad for the Saturn because of input lag.

>>578542
I heard your mama is so fat...
ha ha just joking

>>578551
She was until she did the insanity work out.

Puyo puyo games
Magical Drop games
Puzzle bobble games

Mega man 8

>>578525
All inferior port save for SFAlpha and maybe MMX4

>Castlevania SOTN
No, just no. Doing it wrong.

>Fighters
Now we're talking. Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men vs. SF, Capcom fighters in general.

>>581178
>Metal Slug
>Powerslave
>inferior on Saturn

WTF am I reading?

>>581192
What the fuck am I reading myself.

Metal Slug's PS version has new modes and expanded gameplay, the Saturn version is just a port of the Neo Geo version.

Meanwhile, if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.

>>581228
Saturn version is much more accurate a port, and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.

You should probably set up context before making such claims.

>>581228
And Saturn SOTN has more features than the PS version. That doesn't make it a superior port.

>>581287
>Saturn version is much more accurate a port
The Playstation version is superior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Slug
>In 1997, Sega Saturn and PlayStation versions were released, but only in Japan. The Saturn version was available in two different versions; 1.002 and 1.005, which included some minor bug fixes. The PlayStation version is currently distributed by SNK Playmore as a re-release version. Both ports feature the Combat School from the AES version, while the PlayStation version also features a new game mode dubbed "Another Story", which consists of a series of plot-based mini-games.

Anthology version > Arcade version > Neo Geo CD version > Playstation version (missing animation frames, has extra modes and gameplay) > Saturn version (REQUIRES memory expansion card, no extra modes, requires a jp or modded Saturn, but MUH FRAMES, also the original AES version costs up to $3000 nowadays)


>Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.
>PS
>Meanwhile, if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.
>PC version
>PC

By the way, learn to fucking read.

>>581329
The Saturn version is a more accurate port. More features don't make it a more accurate port. It just means it's a less accurate port with more features.

See
>>581314

>By the way, learn to fucking read.

This is rather ironic, considering I told you to set up context BEFORE making the judgment, and you apparently didn't read that.

I said it destroys the PS version, and you forgot to read that part.

Stop being a retard.

>>578564
bro i did that shit for a day. it goes hard

>>581359
>more accurate
Stop backpedaling. I never claimed the PS version to be more accurate, I claimed it to be superior, which it is.

Version with more actual fucking content >>> Version with extra frames and less loading times, anyday

>>581359
>I said it destroys the PS version
Stop being a child and admit your nonsensical mistakes. THIS:

>>581287
>Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.
is not a coherent reply to this:
>>581228
>Meanwhile, if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.
The Saturn version is being compared to the PC version, you child. The quality of the PS version is not being discussed.

>>581381
>Saturn PowerSlave > PC PowerSlave
Now that's just wrong.

>>581329
>>581359

Alright you two, his is /vr/, let's get along. If you can't do that, then go ahead and make your wa to >>>/v/

That being said;

Saturn PowerSlave > PS and PC PowerSlave
Saturn Metal Slug < PS Metal Slug

>>581329
>Saturn version (REQUIRES memory expansion card, no extra modes)
>Both ports feature the Combat School from the AES version

This was a mode added from the arcade version, so it has a mode added that wasn't in the arcade. You are also misinformed by saying you need a modded or jp Saturn, when all you need is a 4-in-1 cart. You also neglect to mention that you need either a converter or a mod chip to play MS on PS.

Your debate is clearly one-sided and cherry-picked as far as the facts go.

>>581387
I'd say the PC version is more "hardcore" and unforgiving, not to mention that there used to be a small mod community back then. the Saturn version is more polished, but easier.

>>581378
I only claimed it was more accurate, then you went off and are twisting the argument.

Powerslave on Saturn IS much better than the PS version.

Also, I only made the comparison between the Saturn and PS versions of Powerslave. YOU interjected the PC version, which was moving the goalpost. I never commented on the PC version,

>>581391
It bears explicit mentioning that the 4 in 1 cart not only chucks region-checking to the curb, but also provides sweet RAM for sexy frames of animation.

sonic 3d blast

PowerSlave General?

Why was this game so overlooked

>>581378
>The Saturn version is being compared to the PC version, you child. The quality of the PS version is not being discussed.

>and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version

Yeah...no mention of Powerslave on PS here DURRRRRRRRRRRRR

Keep up with the conversation.

>>581391
>You also neglect to mention that you need either a converter or a mod chip to play MS on PS.
Not that anon but you're being as hypocritical and dishonest as you accuse him.

Playstations were never region locked, anyone can play the japanese version.

>>581417
You're a special kind of retard.

>anon says the PC version is better than the Saturn version
>LOL U IDIOT THE SATURN VERSION DESTROYS THE PS VERSION
... which is irrelevant to the conversation and you're the only one to bring it up for reasons only your autism knows.

Rayman's best version is on Saturn, as it has improved colors compared to the PSX/DOS versions, probably due to the Saturn's 2D capabilities.

This game runs well on all of them though.

>>581421
>Playstations were never region locked

What planet are you from? You either needed to use the version 1 swap trick, the dongle-style action replay, or a mod chip to play imports on a PS1.

>>581431
If you're going to choose to ignore the explicit mention of the PS version vs. the Saturn version, then that's your choice, but to say it was never discussed is just stupid.

Do as you will.

>>581436
No one mentioned the PS version but you.

PC version (the one actually being discussed) is better than the Saturn.

>>581436
see >>581228
first post of this discussion
no PS reference
you're an idiot

>>581439
I never mentioned the PC version I specifically compared the PS and Saturn versions, yet you're wandering off like nobody mentioned the PS version at all, and are interjecting "HURR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PC" when we weren't.

WTF are you smoking?

>>581448
No PC reference either. Speaking of idiots...

>>581448
>no PS reference

>Metal Slug's PS version has new modes and expanded gameplay

Lay off the drugs man. That's a clear PS reference, you twat.

>>581457
>No PC reference

>>581228
>Meanwhile, if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.
>if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.
>Powerslave you should play the PC version.
>you should play the PC version.
>play the PC version.
>PC version.
>PC

>>581464
Powerslave, not Metal Slug. Reading comprehension isn't your forte, eh.

>>581467
I'm not talking about Pwoerslave. I'm referring to Metla Slug, you dipshit. Pwoerslave didn't have an arcade or AES release.

JESUS, you people are retards.

See >>581464

>>581453
8/10 you will ruse many others but not me.

>>581473
see
>>581473
>Reading comprehension isn't your forte, eh.

Right back at you.

>>581485
Nice quoting. Take your own advice, retard.

>>581480
>I'm not talking about Pwoerslave.
>>581287
>and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.

Nice backpedaling. Nice spelling as well.

>>581493
If you are over the age of 12, I feel very sad for you and your poor parents.

I' sure the PC version of Powerslave is better, as the PC is a more diverse platform, but I never brought up PC Powerslave. I only mentioned Saturn vs. PS1 ports, both with Powerslave and Metal Slug.

If you somehow think I compared the PC version, you should try tracking the thread back to see I never did outside of mentioning your own references.

>>578525
Thunder Force 5 on the saturn verison is graphically superior to the PS version, but WD included extra content in the port.

X-Men vs Street Fighter was better too, but required the ram cartridge

mom dad please dont fight

I don't know what the fuck is going on in here but I just want to say that the PC version and console versions of Powerslave are so different they both warrant playing.

As for which of the console versions are better, I have no idea.

>>581408
>modchip can't into region-free
>AR can't into pirate
Why must we suffer?

>>581508
> you should try tracking the thread back
Why let's

>>581228
>Meanwhile, if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version.
My post and the first post on this matter.

>>581287
>and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.
Your nonsensical reply.

>>581502
>Saturn version is much more accurate a port, and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.

Note the word "and" makes the Powerslave reference an annotation to Metal Slug, which was the main part of the topic.

Also, track back the reply where I was responding to Metal LSug on Saturn vs. PS.

You know what? I give up. You people are either too stupid to get the point, or are just toddlers doing a good job of trolling

I never compared PC ports of anything. I only state that Metal Slug was a more accurate port on PS, and that Powerslave on Saturn was better than the PS version, so please, go on entertaining yourselves with HURR DURR, since logical discussion isn't part of your repertoire.

Pretty sure the Parodius ports are more faithful to the arcade versions compared to the Playstation ports, same with a lot of Saturn shmups apparently. There is some exclusive stuff for the Saturn Parodius games like new stages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHsFVAGB2rI

>>581528
Show me where I brought up PC Powerslave. Your interjection doesn't negate mine.

I only said the Saturn version beat the PS version.

>>581523
You think that's bad? My mod chip only works if I pop the lid open then close it again from the CD player screen that now appears when I play ANY game, legit or burned. I CAN'T use the 4 in 1 cart unless I use my other Saturn, or yank the mod chip out.

At least I can region-hax Saturn disc images and skip the NEED for the cart for anything but RAM PLZ games.

>>581536
*less accurate port on PS

>>581536
No one ever established this thread as a pit of Saturn vs. Playstation ports, it's a thread about ports, PERIOD. All platforms included. It's irrelevant, off-topic and nonsensical to mention a PS port without even being prompted, when the discussion is about which has the best version and the PC version is referred to in comparison to the Saturn.

>>581550
I specified the ports I was comparing. I never sad "Powerslave is best on PC". I said it was better on Saturn. I'm pretty sure the PC version is the best port of the game, but that wasn't in the context of my reply.

>>581378
>Version with more actual fucking content >>> Version with extra frames and less loading times, anyday
>Extra content over the game actually playing like it should

Casual as fuck; the only time accuracy should be opted against is for like bugs and design decisions, like SNES TMNT IV removing the clay monster boss in favor of Slash, or fixing TEMP and the like in Final Fantasy so they actually fucking work.

Here you're just opting for the game running shittier in exchange for what amounts to bells and whistles.

capcha: theycntr perfections

>>581558
*better on Saturn than PS

>>581550
>when the discussion is about which has the best version
The discussion is about
>Good Multiplatform Games that can be played on Saturn

Read the topic

>>581558
There was no reason whatsoever for you to post a reply about the inferiority PS version in a derogatory tone to the post that compared the PC version of the game to the Saturn's.

On the other hand, it's plain as fucking day that what you did was read the "PC" in the original post as "PS", rushed to post a butthurt response without reading things the post you were replying to properly and now what you're doing istrying to to save face by backpedaling and stringing along nonsensical arguments about why you did this or that instead of just owning up to your reading mistake. It is in this that you're truly a manchild.

>>581572
Not OP's discussion, this discussion
>>581178
>>581192
>>581228
... the one speficially comparing which port is the best. Not that I can expect a manchild like you to actually take the time to read things properly.

>>581586
I never talked about a PC comparison aside from here
>>581558
Where I mentioned the PC version probably is the best version.

I was comparing how the Saturn Pwoerslave was better than the PS version. I wasn't trying to "save face". You simply can't pay the fuck attention.

God damn moron

>>581592
This has been clarified over and over. Your refusal to acknowledge that shows how stupid you are.

>Not that I can expect a manchild like you to actually take the time to read things properly.

Oh, irony...

>>581593
Nobody cares about what you mentioned or didn't if you're not on topic and making sense. Your reply about the PS version isn't a coherent reply to a comparison between the Saturn and the PC version.

>>581598
It never was a comparison, so you should have never thought it was, ESPECIALLY after it's been clarified for you numerous times.

>Nobody cares about what you mentioned

Yeah. That's why people like you are replying. You don't care so much that you have to throw a bitch fit. Seriosuly?

>>581598
>Your reply about the PS version isn't a coherent reply to a comparison between the Saturn and the PC version.

The first comment about the Powerslave port was a Saturn vs. PS reference, actually. The PC version was mentioned later. Try to keep up.

>>581178
Symphony is not that bad. It has some slow down and transparency issues but the extra content makes up for it. Just a shame they did not take advantage of the 2D power for the Saturn.

>>581608
>It never was a comparison,
Now that's just embarassing. Lying through your teeth and trying to save face.

>>581228
>if you want to play Powerslave you should play the PC version (and not the Saturn)
>>581287
>and Powerslave DESTROYS the PS version.

Both comparisons, you big fucking babby.

>>581638
>>581656
LOL...you can't even post porperly

>>581638
The Poweslave reference as a superior p[ort on Satrun was mentioned before the PC version was. I apparently have to once again clarify that I was referring to the PS ports of both Metal Slug and Powerslave in comparison to the Saturn.

You can call me names all you want. It doesn't change the fact I wasn't comparing the PC port, and it only shows how little you pay attention.

>>581618
>The first comment about the Powerslave port was a Saturn vs. PS reference,
Another lie.

>>581178
>All inferior ports
First comment, no PS refersence.
>>581192
Second comment, no PS reference.
>>581228
Third comment, beginning of present discussion, PC/Saturn reference.

>>581664
>>581659
Says the guy who can't even write or read properly. Formatting is no shame, typing and reading like an idiot is.

>>581635
If by 'extra content', you mean playing as Maria, I'll give you that; her aside, the added zones were pretty shallow and something about the enemies seemed... Off, as though they weren't quite finished. A certain lacking in polish, if you will.

While I would probably go out of my way for a Saturn SotN because there's enough titles to have a Saturn around for anyway, I wouldn't play as anyone but Maria on it; actual SotN play is better suited to PSX or XBLA

>>581665
>I don't realize those comments were from different people.

I only compared the Saturn vs. PS ports, and already stated the PC version of Powerslave is most likely superior. What reason do I have to lie again?

OH THAT'S RIGHT. I'm not lying. You just can't interpret context.

>>581672
>typing and reading like an idiot is.

The first letter of a sentence is capitalized.

>>581635
It was just a lazy port. They tried to straight port the PS1 version instead of building it to cater towards the Saturn.

>>581678
>I only compared the Saturn vs. PS ports
Nowhere in >>581192 are PS vs Saturn comparisons specified. There is no "context" of PS vs. Saturn ports in this post, there are only "ports", period.

Idiots and autists are the ones who assume everyone knows what they mean without actually making themselves clear.

>>581697
I clarified that later, repeatedly. Try tracing the thread. I'm clarifying it now, once again. How thick is your skull?

>>581687
Commas do not start sentences.

But I want to laugh at you some more, so please rewrite my statement >>581672 appropriately for me, with the capitalization you judge correct, will you?

>>581704
You didn't clarify, you backpedaled after throwing a shitfit and making an embarassing reading mistake.

>>581687
>>581713
>>581672
>>581664
We just went full Youtube comment sections.

>>581738
Rewrite it.

>>581713
Use a period instead of a comma. Also, don't start a sentence with a conjunction.

>>581726
>You didn't clarify

Fuck you and every other idiot who can't read. Jesus Christ. This is a new low.

I honestly don't see how people like you can even eat without a bib. Fucking toddlers.

>>581329
How can the Anthology version be better than the arcade version. They can take their source code and stuff it. Final Burn can rip that shit up.

What emulators are good for Saturn? A mysterious Japanee is said to have created SSF or whatever and it is said to be good. 9 years to get to version 0.10.

What games did only Japan get? What of these were of quality? Europe?

>>581742
>Formatting is no shame. Typing and reading like an idiot is.

I'm waiting for your idiotic retort.

>>581738
Alas, because I'm curious, which one is the conjunction starting a sentence >>581672 ?

Do amuse me.

>>581763
I'm assuming it includes the remixed music from MS CD.

I know FF Real Bout 2 was best on the collection, as it had the full animation of the cart version, and the (optional) remixed music of the Neo CD.

>>581329
>Requires a JP or modded Saturn

But that is wrong. You can play import games with an Action Replay cart that also serves as a memory expansion card. The only use modding a Saturn has is to play CD-Rs.

>>581771
The word "but" is a conjunction. It's supposed to bridge two sentences into one at the mid point, unless you support it with an adverb.

>>581763
If you have even a small amount of interest in shmups then Dezaemon is essential, imo. It's a creation kit that allows you to make your own shmups, and it's easy and relatively powerful. There is a massive database full of great games made by the community, a good amount of them with excellent level design and beautiful artwork. You can pour hundreds of hours into this.

>>581790
This was already mentioned.

>>581786
Said word wasn't used, but it's nice that you resorted to grammar nitpicking. The sad part is that my writing isn't an incorrect usage.

>>581805
see
>>581713
>but it's nice that you resorted to grammar nitpicking
see
>>581672

You are beyond stupid.

>>581539
I would just remove your mod chip if that issue is going on. Would rather have a Saturn that works perfect with actual copies than one that works half assed to play burnt ones.

>>581805
Status = told

>>581805
>>581819
Will you guys stop fighting over grammar and actually discuss video games?

>>581797
>>581790
>make 6-cpu 32 bit console that is impossible to program but at least you can't pirate the software for it
>make 128 bit console that takes "GD-ROMs", ignore copy protection; forget that buffer can be removed
>go out of the console business

>>581836
The fault of that was the faggot who got the broadband adapter to mix with the dev toolkit and hacked the shit out of the system.

>>581819
A post referring to your lack of reading comprehension, poor formatting and rushed typing is somehow relating to grammar? Nice try, but you just reinforce the aforementioned faults.

>>581825
>>581819
Also let's not samefag.

>>581849
The genius. Blame Guimond Cloutier for selling burned copies online for cheap.

>>581738
Wut? There's nothing wrong with that sentence.

also NOT VIDYA

No one has said megaman 8? It was better than the ps1 version because of the extra options where you can listen to the songs, they also took out either wood man or cut man on the ps1 version.

>>581850
>backpeddling

Also, you needed a comma between "formatting" and "and".

Grammar is involved with sentence composition, btw.

>>581876
>Also, you needed a comma between "formatting" and "and".

>A post referring to your lack of reading comprehension, poor formatting, and rushed typing is somehow relating to grammar?
No, that would be incorrect.
>, and

THAT would be wrong, and you are an idiot.

>>581876
>Also, you needed a comma between "formatting" and "and".
What?

WHAT THE FUCK am I reading?

>>581885
This is what they are teaching you kids nowadays? No wonder you're all idiots.

>>581876
No.

>>581876
>>581885
>>581893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

It's optional. I tend to use it.

>>578525

So no X-Men: Children of the Atom, huh. Fuck this shit, I'm leaving.

OP here
This derrailed so bad...
This is not about what is the best version.
This is about making a list of GOOD multiplatform games for the saturn.
There is no reason to be upset.

So we got so far...
Head worm jim 2
Resident Evil
Rayman
Megaman X4
Power Slave
Metal Slug
Street Fighter Alpha
Tomb Raider
Wipeout 2097
Puyo puyo games
Magical Drop games
Puzzle bobble games
Thunder Force 5
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Parodious
X-Men: Children of the Atom