/vr/ - Retro Games

guess you might have had to play it back when it came out. That shit was amazing then (and I find it to still be)

You completely overlooked the musical genius and the fact that the song was done so wonderfully with the hardware limitations of the time.

>>580718

and what he said

>FF6
lol
Is that what it says at the title screen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpIWD39Ngw

>>580727
Actually it's more like they used the music chip for it.
You want to see song play tales of phantasia!
FF6 used the sound board to emulate singing.
Instead of putting an ACTUL song on a snes cart.

FF6 invented vocaloid

I thought it was a bit silly really. Nice attempt, but it just fell flat on its face

>>580739
Go be retarded somewhere else.

>COMPLAINING ABOUT ULTROS

>>580761
Actually we have a fix for this now.
Play the GBA version with the sound patch.

>>580787
Still my favorite FF6 boss to this day

Most embarrassing 16bit game scene ever

>>580792
I actually hated that change on the patch.
It sounds so out of place.

You're not alone, OP. I played it back when it came out (mail-ordered it since the shithole town I live in didn't sell console games at the time) and even then I thought that scene was a bit silly.

>>580792
Wait so someone fixed the sound on the GBA for FF6.
Hmm Or well explain?

I don't like it either. I hate playing through FF6 and reaching it.

Guess I'm 2pleb4opera

>>580798
Or is the the most beautiful?

I loved it.

>>580813
I beg to differ
http://youtu.be/KGkfRJF4u5Y?t=2m32s<wbr>

>>580694

Pretty lackluster, even for the time. You weren't really missing anything.

Did it take some time and skill? I would imagine so... but so would making an inhabitable tower out of buttermilk and paper clips.

>did a replay recently
>got past this and forgot to save at some point
>had to play through the opera scene again
>mfw

>>580860
You just have to use your imaaaaaginaaaationnnnnn.

>>580813
I've never played through FF6, I probably should, but an opera scene in a FF game just sounds awkward and that pic makes it look so as well

I fucking hate musical numbers in the middle of a game. It happened with IX too (save the awesome "impress the nobles" part) and with Chrono Cross, during that awful, unskipable, rock opera sequence.

>>580860
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>580694
I played through this game for the first time on my SNES not too long ago. I guess it was a cool little cinematic, but I didn't know fans jizzed their pants when this opera stuff went down.

I didn't think much of it, so I guess you ain't missing anything.

>>580875
I'm not sure what's so funny

>>580860
FF9's was cool

>>580901
oh, ok, you are just trolling then, nice to know

>>580890
Let me rephrase

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

This is still worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt21kfF06A8

>>580901

The kiss scene at the lake is even worse.

I played FFVI on an emulator years ago and I gotta say that the Opera scene is kinda overrated. There are more powerful and beautiful moments in gaming, even during it's era.

>>580906
Apparently you don't know your Final Fantasy.

>>580912

FF9 was so terrible, I couldn't even get into it

>>580912
this is actually pretty awesome

>>580912
Screw you, that was cool.

>>580920
Just remember that Kimahri was there watching them the entire time and it's a lot more enjoyable.

>>580924
9 seems to be a love or hate thing, even more so than 7

>>580931
it's been ages since I played any of them so I've most likely forgotten a lot, and I'm not the type that sits down and memorizes lines/scenes anyhow

>>580940
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc

>>580912
I FORGOT THAT PART.

I FUCKING HATE THAT PART.

>>580940
It's THE scene in FFX that is universally hated.

Well almost universally. I don't mind it, and Teedus' voice actor does a good job actually, it's just Yuna's that can't emote for shit.

>>580876
It's really one of those things that was much cooler at the time. Playing it nowadays, I wouldn't expect anyone to really be impressed.

wasn't this about celes facing up to herself for all the shit she'd gone through? Also setting up the cliff scene a bit...

>>580956
I never got far in FFX, I didn't like it much

>>580960
oh god, I think I remember this now, this was pretty early on in the game huh? that was so pathetic

>>580986

Yep. Before the chocobo snatcher, or whatever the fuck it was.

>>580997
That two tongued nigga?

The babby one in X-2 was cute.

>>580997
yeah, I think that very scene with them laughing is where I thought "this game is lame and mostly cut scenes, I'm done", lol

Why do people keep posting the Celes bit? The Wedding is the defining scene. That shit was revolutionary in terms of narrative. Plus it had these two tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SmdOPYekYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkFR7Z2SG2M

>>581012
>"this game is lame and mostly cut scenes, I'm done", lol

>>581024
but it IS mostly cut scenes... and yes, I know ever FF game from 7 up until 12 is like that, if you like that, that's your thing, I don't, learn that different people have different tastes

>>581037
before some troll has a tantrum
games*

I rarely into RPG's but when that shit came out, I was mesmerized by the tech. FF3 was the only rpg game I was encapsulated into enough to finish it. Also one of the first games I bought with my own money and damn well worth busting my ass off in the summer doing pleb work.

>>581037
It's like you've never played a Final Fantasy game in your life.

>>581046
have you played a FF game before 7? I'm guessing you haven't, they didn't used to be *walk walk* *FMV* *almost automated fight* *repeat forever*

>>581037
I think you're confusing dialogue with cut scenes. Every Final Fantasy from IV and on is like that.

>>581037
mostly? so there are more cutsscenes than my average 30 - 40 gameplay hours?
ha ha fag

>>580813
The most beautiful scene in a 16-bit game belongs solely to the ending sequence of Lufia II. Nothing else compares, although Terranigma's ending comes the closest.

>>581059
Again, you have clearly never played a 3D FF if you honestly believe that.

>>581056
no I'm not, I'm talking about the games inbetween 7 and 12, not incluing 11 for obvious reasons, those games were all pretty much FMVs the games

>>581073
If you aren't trolling I genuinely pity you.

>>581059
You either have no idea what FMVs actually are or you're a fucking moron.

>>581073
You literally have no fucking idea what you're talking about. As much as you accuse other people of not playing the games before 7, it's painfully obvious you've never played any beyond 6.

>>581096
I don't think you do, yes, it was CGI produced, but he game wasn't rendering, therefor it's still FMV

>>580694

At the time it was very moving, it is still very moving to me, you could feel the love between Celes and Locke during it

It was a minigame AND a cutscene combined. annoyed the fuck out of me.

>>580912
>freya with different clothes

>>581149
>your greatest fear is being forgotten
>the game writers forget about you once Disk 1 is over

Being Freya is suffering.

>>581091
actually, maybe I should go back and replay them, maybe what happened is the first PS era FF game I played was 8, and it soured me to the rest of them at the time and I just assumed they were all like that

>>580694
I actually understand op. I was finding the opera scene cool, but not the wonderful masterpiece that people spoke about.

then they had to put ultros and I said "ok, fuck it"

seriously, I even like japan LOL RANDOM humor, but that was retarded

>>580694

For the opera scene you have to be really into the characters, maybe even imagining interactions behind the game's dialogue that is presented to the player.

As someone said, it requires quite a bit of imagination to make an actual opera experience out of a ridiculously old game. But for me, it did happen.

I imagined Celes with her problems, and the story up until that point, with her correlations to the opera story, singing that actual song. And it moved me.

I didn't see Ultros coming. A let down, but masterful in that it put you right back into the actual game, showing you that the opera was just what it was.

An interlude in the fight and struggle of the main characters against the inevitable.

... captcha: another Cpsite

>>580956
>>580956
>Teedus' voice actor does a good job actually
>>580960
>>580960
It's not Teedus. You mean Baboon's voice actor.

>>580805
There's a sound patch for all three SNES ports now, and a color patch for VI. Each one has a live orchestra track, and for VI it's the opera.

So if you really hate how the voices were done, now you have live ones.

I thought it was a little silly, but I liked it.

If you don't consider the opera scene in FF6 to be beautiful and poignant, then what the fuck SNES game scenes DO you find beautiful?

If you can't think of any then congratulations you're incapable of finding beauty in 16-bit games move along, nothing for you here.

>>581584
gaems are art.

>>581584
Is Metal Slug 16-bit? That series is the pinnacle of beautiful.

>>581606
You can't compare arcade hardware to home 16 bit hardware.

>>581584
>Like if you agree

>>581584
le upboat lel le le le le

Final Fantasy VI's soundtrack was very impressive for 1994. Can you think of any other 16-bit cartridge games that have twenty minute songs?

>>581667
>>581649
>>581591
That's your rebuttal? "I don't have anything to prove him wrong so I'll just shitpost at him."

Brilliant. You sure showed me.

>>580758
this

>>581794
Don't get butthurt when people think games should just be games, something you play and eventually "win". Only older game that somewhat touched me was a Gameboy game at its ending sequence. The opera scene in FFVI really wasn't special.

>>581584
DQ5 papas death

This thread is full of FF7 fags anyway.

>>581794
>rebuttal
There was nothing to rebut. You didn't have an argument, you just fawned over the opera scene.

>>580912
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt21kfF06A8
The fuck is this shit, River Dance?
God, I never want to play FF9 after watching this shit, and I got a new copy on my shelf...

>>581794
Chill out bro, I just remembered a facebook post that looked exactly like that.

Is Ultros supposed to be like a creepy pedophile or something? I don't really get what they're going for with his personality.

>>581870
It's Ted at the translation, you're not supposed to.

>>581584
>Anon doesn't know about Terranigma's ending.

>yfw you realize the opera scene has parallels with Celery's attempted suicide
>and Rachel

>>581884
What's he like in Japanese?

>>581827
Ohh well my apologies that you're an autistic who shrieks and runs away from emotions. I assure you that if I ever go into game development I will keep all emotions and attempts at beauty out of them so as not to make you uncomfortable.

>>581830
Ahh that was a pretty good scene, yeah. However it was really just two monsters launching attacks at him. It was well written though and I agree it was poignant. I wouldn't call it beautiful though, more like tragic, though tragedy can often be beautiful too.

>>580694
No OP, that's exactly what I got out of it. To the point that when I saw it, I thought it was a sort of prelude to a real Opera Scene that would occur later in the game. Boy was I disappointed...

Honestly FF6 disappointed me greatly. Bad pacing, muddy graphics if you don't have a CRT (I admit this is my fault), unlikable characters, and a shallow story that replaced the great job system of the previous game. Felt like all style no substance.

>>580718
>the song was done so wonderfully with the hardware limitations of the time.

Nowhere near as impressive as anything in Jurassic Park.

>>580932
I thought IX was generally well received among the PS1-PS2 entries.

>>581912
Who ever said I was uncomfortable with it? Are you emotionally stunted because it doesn't seem like you've been outside before.

Locke's performance always made the Opera for me.

it was the birthplace of the cutscenes that we all know and love today

at the time it was soooo cool (i remember, i played it on the snes), it was touching and the song is funny, although today it sounds like farts.

>>580694
It's pretty lame shit, yeah. Not as overplayed as Aeris dying, though.

>>581924
>no u

Haha.

>>581912
Sorry, but if you think it was "poignant and beautiful" you have terminally low standards and probably zero exposure to culture that isn't mass-market entertainment.

>>581978
Don't expect serious responses when you don't do so sperglord.

Guys you're overthinking it.

The whole point of the opera scene was to show how badass Seltzer is, and it served that purpose well.

>>581974
>if you don't agree with me you aren't as cultured and refined as I am

You forgot to throw in buzzwords like plebeian and quote Nietzsche. Is this your first time making a pretentious pseudo-intellectual post?

>>581998
seltzer

>>581998
It was also development for the Celes and Locke subplot, as well as foreshadowing for her attempted suicide. And fun time with Ultros.

I wouldn't say it's the best or most touching scene in the game, but its definitely an important and memorable one. Had a good mix of humor and heart with nice music.

>>581995
>using "sperglord" unironically

hahahaha.

Well okay then. I planned on giving my negative opinions of FF6 in here but apparently there are a bunch of fanboy /v/-tards flipping their shit in here and acting like children.

Nevermind. I guess we can't have nice things.

>>582026
I know what you mean, I hate having to share my opinions when there's a small chance someone might disagree with them.

>>582036
>it's okay to fuck up a whole board with shiposting because I disagree!

>>582036
Or shitpost like a little baby.

Or attention whore like a tripfag.