/vr/ - Retro Games

Imagine actually playing vanilla when glorious, well balanced mods like this exist.

>>5811052
Play Path of Diablo

>>5811176
what in the name of fuck is this
>>5811182
this mod was boring and lame

anyone have any experience doing a single pass full clear run with an assassin? I'm going to do one next, but with a martial arts sin (traps seems too easy). untwinked i'm guessing using dragon tail would be better than talon for the splash damage?

>>5811272
An obscure mod called Alchemy. Worth playing only if you want a quick laugh. You can easily plow through all three difficulties in a few hours.

>>5811052
Every time I want to start a D2 run I always pick Paladin.
Literally every time.
HELP

>>5811358
>virgin paladin
>chad necromancer

>>5811364
This.

>>5811358
This but Necro

>>5811364
Really it's
>virgin barb
>chad literally every other class

path of diablo is based

Post some good drops bros. How you all doin

>>5812315
>dungo and ga on a hammerdin
Go run LK and get you an enigma, jesus christ.

>>5812325
i haven't found mesh yet believe it or not, despite two dungos. i have an enigma on my necro but i've just been hotkeying vigor for a change of pace

>>5812347
>hotkeying vigor for a change of pace
I KEK'd, I really did

>>5811176
>Not Median XL

>>5811182
>Not Median XL

>>5812315
Don't you like charms or something?

>>5811052
My pc couldnt handle poe so when I found out this was basically better I got so hyped.

>>5812315
Checked this crap off my list.

>>5813076
>not resetting mercs until you find a defensive one with a GOOD NAME
Not based.

>>5813093
I thought only I did that.

How tf do I kill Duriel guys Im lvl 20 necro using teeth/bone spear I keep dying fml.

>>5813106
Iron Maiden, maybe respec to a summoner so he doesn't aggro you.

>>5813106
Thawing potions if he starts chasing you, Iron Maiden, Clay Golem.

>>5813106
>spam bone walls
>kill him
>spam clay golems
>kill him
>chug thawing potions for 85% resistance and tank his damage
>kill him
>force feed thawing potions to your mercenary for 85% resistance and have him tank the damage for you
>kill him
>mix in all four together or in other combinations
>kill him

Plenty of options out there, kiddo.

>>5813107

>>5813109
Thanks. I'll respecc with plugY no problem :))

>>5813118
Use a wand with +skills, retard.

>>5813119
I already have one, +2teeth, the skill I was using, retard.

Is there anywhere I can get saves with hell finished?
Only thing I found was from plebbit...

>>5813118
Awe, don't use the plugy reset, use a legit anya respec.

>>5813184
No.

>>5813076
lucky bastard.
i literaly never get uniques from Diablo and if I get a set item it's always an Isengards piece

>>5813106
lv1 clay golem and lv1 iron maiden. cheeses every boss in the game.

>>5813093
All act 2 mercs have retarded names, you can't find a good one.

>>5813223
>not re-rolling until you get azrael
You're no fren of mine.

>>5812649
yeah man i'm not going to pretend it's not unusual, but after 10+ years playing this game on and off it's strange what kinda stuff makes it feel different

>>5813229
Durga is the best.

>>5813312
This, but I tend to like most of the Arabic sounding names. Once I hired Emilio and that guy was somehow even dumber than the others.

>>5813229
>Not Emilio
Look at this pleb

Is a melee necro build with maxed out curses viable?

>>5813363
melee necros are viable and actually have a ton of options, but i wouldn't max out any curses since all you get primarily is increased radius. i think there are exceptions for dim vision and decrepify, which can be pumped a bit to have helpful duration (especially the former - since the necro is so squishy you could easily get murdered trying to get to melee range against a group of ranged enemies). plus skills will take most of your curses to where they need to be. instead i'd focus on pumping stuff that can buffer your melee capability:
a golem to tank (clay/iron)/ mastery / summon resist
corpse explosion (only a few points but this one is a given)
poison dagger is a good option for elemental damage for physical immunes, will absolutely nuke them in conjunction with lower resist. i don't see most people recommend this though, probably because to really get a lot out of poison dagger you need to dedicate some points to synergies, but the meleemancer has a ton of spare skill points

>>5813412
oh, and if it wasn't obvious / in case it was tempting, don't use passion and try to make a zealmancer the way sorcs do - the "hit blinds target" mod casts dim vision, which will override your curses. it's pretty lame.

>>5813281
i wasn't laughing at your strategy but the (now apparently unwitting) wordplay

>>5813441
i almost said no pun intended but i generally just assume a tone of hostility here

What's the build that requires less user input?
I just want to fucking walk around and kill shit.

>>5813767
Hammerdin.
>hammer left conc right
>walk around and hold mouse1 on enemy while watching netflix
>hammers kill everything on-screen
>repeat

>>5811052
Whats the build that requires the least user input possible?
I just want to walk around and have shit dying around me.

>>5813794
>>5813767
Sorry guys motherfucking mimi wouldn't update I thought it wasn't posted.

>>5811292
go for a hybrid kicksin. it's way more fun and flexible, and i guess you can basically tweak the difficulty by just not laying a lot of traps if you don't want to. super easy to get good cb, ar, and ias, though it's all single target damage. this was all single pass full clear with p8 and max mf in norm and nm. quite lucky, but you make your own luck if you're autistic enough to play like this.

>least user input possible
skelemancer normally
auradin possibly

>>5813363
definitely but kinda gimping yourself if you dont use Poison Dagger.
main issue is without using corpse explosion or poison nova you dont really have a good aoe skill to kill multiple enemies at once, so individually stabbing each mob once with Poison Dagger and waiting a few seconds gets really old.

Personally I'd do something like a combo of >Poison Dagger & Bone Spear/Poison Nova
>Poison Dagger & corpse explosion
>Poison Dagger & summoning skills
You can combine with Act 1, Act 2 or Act 5 Mercs with runewords for some cool buffs of effects. Infinity merc doesnt do anything for a Necro and Insight isn't such a big deal, so you can experiment and come up with a lot of interesting builds.
I like using a Bow or Crossbow on Necro and pew pew stuff from behind my skeletons, with an Act 2 Might aura merc.

>>5813767
>What's the build that requires less user input?
Summonmancer is by far the least key presses.
Once you have your wall of skeletons you can just move to area, afk with bone wall up, wait for everything to die, repeat your way through the game.
I call it the Netflixmancer and honestly have trouble playing almost any other build now.

>>5815528
Auradin works well up until Hell, then you need some crazy expensive gear to make it less shit (the holy shock, holy freeze, holy fire runewords and infinity for merc)

>>5815978
Not true. Necro needs to cast his curses and Corpse Ex pretty often cuz Merc levels shit pretty fast. I don't remember ever taking a break more than a second or two.

>>5811052
>Last semi active D1 community
>http://tristr.am
Yeah about that, OP

>>5811176
>>5811182
>>5812821
mods are just fine but they can't resolve d2's main problem wich is lack of content and dynamic gameplay. it becomes boring and repetitive way too fast.

>>5815993
eh it's not that bad.
the only times I have to do any sort of work is when there are ghosts or gloams around, and even then it's only to cast Amplify Damage to remove their physical immunity.
it's far from being the fastest way to play diablo 2 but i like it.

What's the easiest and fastest way to beat Diablo I? What class, stats, and equipment would I need to get and how much experience would I need?
Can a Necromancer in D2 beat everything just with summons on normal mode?

>>5816137
Only problem for Necro is Duriel on Normal if you don't lvl to 24 and get Decrep.

>>5813312
>>5813328
These are the reddit names though.

>>5816137
>sorcerer
>put all stats into magic
>win
The game is over in 3-4 hours if you have any experience with the genre.

>>5813203
>lv1 clay golem and lv1 iron maiden. cheeses every boss in the game.
I wouldn't call that cheesing, considering it is way more difficult than any other tactic in the game. You'd be doing that for hours against any boss past normal.

https://diablo.rivsoft.net/
>Diablo 1 Web Port

>be me
>be retarded
>play summoner
>know it be good to get skullder's ire for mf
>drop it
>it's ethereal
>fuck
>ponder whether to charsi food it or wear it until it breaks
>decide to wear it and replace once i find solid one
>necro rarely gets hit but still check durability after each game
>36 out of 36 *great and not terrible*
>continue playing for days
>wonder why it doesn't lose durability
>think eth items lose durability slower than normal or maybe I didn't even get hit to even lose 1 durab
>google for answer
>nothing
>check out d2 wiki page of skullder's ire
>eth skullder is superior since it has repair mod
>mfw

found my GMB in chaos sanctuary after a few hours of hammerdin runs bros. i actually found 2 before that but the first was only +1 skills and that was too low for me to handle and the second one was superior +2 but already had one socket. rolling through hell with a hybrid FA / LF zon and it's a really fucking fun character. i'd recommend it as fuck

>>5819190
Jesus fuck.

>>5816061
people keep pulling OPs out of the desu archive without proofreading so this news arrives, anew, thread

Our thoughts and prayers go out to tristr.am
Not Retro
Jet fuel can't
Despite being only
>etc.

>>5820143
Running tombs like that looks really fun

>>5811052
>not modding d2 to your liking
It's even more fun than actually playing

>>5818953
hehe nice.
but yeah if you're using your weapon just to cast spells it'll basically never lose durability, so it's not a big deal.

>>5821269
You got a link for your mod?

>>5821269
cringe

so /vr/ what's your favorite d2 class and if you were to make a mod, how would you buff it to balance it with the strongest class (let's say paladin for the sake of argument).

i like assassins, especially melee ones, and it always seemed funny to me that dual wielding ones aren't particularly viable compared to weapon-shield assassins since every other class generally goes weapon-shield. I think weapon block could be buffed such that it works not just when completely stationary and if it got a synergy from claw mastery so you could come closer to the 75% block rate of other classes. I'd also make it so dual wielding weapons improved your attacks/second by more than they currently do, especially with martial arts skills so you could build charges up more quickly. I've never really noticed any significant increase in attacks/second with two claws which makes no sense to me flavor wise.

>>5822141
I agree there should be more incentive to dual wield weapons and use 2H weapons for that matter.

My favourite class is the necro. The only things I would give him would be some sort of movement skill, like teleport, and the ability to command my minions to attack a certain target.

>>5822141
I love druids and the only thing I would ever ask for is for the spirit AI to be smarter and more reliable. Otherwise they're just well-rounded enough with a number of viable melee playstyles and a pretty solid caster, the animals give them good defenses, and they support other players nicely.

>>5822173
>spirit AI
i cannot remember a skill/summon that looked great on paper and disappointed me more than the spirits. i really like the concept of druids other than their dogshit vitality / mana per point (but that's probably because of werewolf and werebear buffing life so i guess it makes sense) but i could not keep those things alive for anything. it was so frustrating.

>>5822216
oh look its another druidcuck meltdown

>>5822336
i'm actually the guy who was talking about assassins and was just agreeing that spirits suck, but I'd like to join what i imagine has to be a long line of people to ask you to put on a trip so i can filter you

>>5822341
cope

>>5822336
>meltdown
>that post
I see Nightmare Lower Kurast is not kind to you today

I wonder what aussiebro is doing these days.

>>5822680

>>5822141
Necro. Give it more flexibility than "always use corpse explosion and only ever the same 2 curses"
The class is plenty strong as it there's really only variations on 1 build.

>>5823319
>only ever the same 2 curses
I use Amplify Damage, Decrepify, Lower Resist, Dim Vision, Iron Maiden, Attract and Confuse.

>>5821269
Not going to lie, it would be grand to have 8 Misakas. But to build one from scratch in 3dsmax and take 200 ragdoll screenshots, shit son

>>5822141
I have no experience with MA sins, but there is a kicker build well regarded for slaying the ubers (the real ones)- no dual claws or any of the chargeups, though?

>>5823328
i've been playing since the game came out. I've only ever used Amplify Damage 95% of the time and Iron Maiden for bosses. Only just started using Decrepify but often I dont use it because of how many skillpoints it takes to unlock it.
Attract Confuse and Dim Vision are basically useless but I can see Lower Resist being useful for Poison Nova build.

I'll stand by my point though in that every Necro build is "Corpse Explosion featuring whatever you want to do to get first kill".

Diablo 2 gets pretty tedious, but the graphics and sound are just flat out better than anything else, 20 years on.

Compare to PoE. PoE has way more content, but it looks like ass compared to Diablo 2 and the setting is just flat out less interesting.

>>5824381
pretty much this, nothing has ever come close to it.

One step closer

>>5824734
I got blinkbats today too. Coincidence?

>>5824370
Attract and Dim Vision help survivability though because you get to abuse the AI or shut down ranged characters
in very poor builds having crowd control of this sort is a boon

>>5824734
damn dude this is the only normal unique left on my grail i think. nice.

Why is it called farming? Fishing is a more accurate analogy.

>>5824742
Unless you believe Venus and Mars had another marital fight last night and a bunch of low TCs around the map got up'd while Fortuna was getting hate fucked, I'd say it was probably a coincidence.

>>5825070
Sucks that you drop items for Normal Act I in Hell after months of farming, and items are shit and probably obsolete in first hour of playing.

What were Blizztard North thinking?

>>5825569
The highest drop rates for the low uniques are all (properly) in Act1 Norm, it's just that people don't seem to spend a whole lot of hours farming there
>What were Blizztard North thinking?
I can accept these feelings in general, but this part probably works as designed... that rare, 'oh shit' occasion of a unique drop in the beginning of the game. Maybe it's TOO rare?

how do i use (((gheed's))) two warranty lads

>>5825635
I found Axe of Fechmar in the Den of Evil when playing a barbarian once. I was able to use it all the way into hell because of how powerful the +3 freezes targets was.

>>5824381
how does Titan Quest compare?
I only ever got up to the Desert area in it, never got very far. Been thinking of going back to play it again but not sure whether it's as good mid/late game as Diablo 2, or if anything like a holy grail exists for it

thoughts on FLARE: Empyrean Campaign?

>>5826517
I checked it on youtube and my honest thoughts are why would I play it when I can just play D2?

>>5826376
This is why I have a soft spot for Bonesnap and Steeldriver, too.

>get eth armor
>wanna ebug it
>afraid i'll get bad sockets
>oh wait i play sp
>save & exit
>copy save file
>return
>ebug armor
>get 2 sockets
>i predicted this
>save & exit
>delete file
>paste old one
>ebug again
>4 sockets
>nice now I have base for my merc fortitude

>>5827535
Imagine being this retarded and unimaginative that you need to swap save files to do this.

Sorry, I'm a newbie, but I have to ask:

What's up with those build guides? Every single one is like this:
> put 20 points in lv30 skill
> put 20 points in four other lv12-24 skills
> put 5 points in strength, rest in dexterity
> get equipment that's only equippable by a lv80 character
> get a bunch of zod runes
> get three annihilus charms

What are you supposed to do for the 79 levels before you hit level 80?
Or do you all just start your character at level 85?

>>5827702
Read a different guide, idiot.

>>5827702
You can pretty much do whatever you want (within the bounds of common sense) with whatever gear you find up through the end of nightmare, ~75. The gap between nm and hell is big and the builds and guides suddenly get very relevant. The ones on jsp are more for endgame pvm, some are pvp as well, and mostly assume you can trade for shit on the realms.

>>5827707
> read a different guide

But every single one is the same!

>>5827702
Just bee urself and save one of your easy akara respecs when you're high enough level to jump to a build.

>>5827702
don't worry too much about guides. you can do pretty much whatever you want until some point in nightmare - when you find a skill you like, pump points in it. do some occasional boss runs for better gear (mephisto or baal). you can make it this way for a long while - you'll notice when the difficulty ramps up and you may need to specialize a little more. when you do, respec and look at a guide if you want.

>>5827735
What did people do before the patch that introduced Akara respecs?

>>5827535
Personally I would wait for the eth armor I would just cube it and then edit the sockets, faster and easier.

>>5827765
>pre-1.10
Synergies still aren't a thing, so for most builds you'd want to be rushed and then leech experience until you could start putting points into the skills that you were going to use on the high-end.
>1.10
Synergies! Monsters are also made much harder, but Sorc leveling in particular got way easier since you can put points in low level spells to use along the way, and they'll buff your endgame shit.
>1.11
Uber event. Still no respecs.
>1.12
No gameplay changes.
>1.13
Respecs, baby. One per Den of Evil quest (3), but infinite respecs by farming and cubing the 4 boss essences.

>>5827765
you gimped your character by misclicking

>>5827765
You'd start again. How you built your character on the journey to your end game build used to be very important. I miss that.

>>5827535
cheater cheater pumpkin eater

>>5827765
very carefully

>>5827791
Didn't really matter before synergies, since every character except for the sorceress had way too many skill points to spend. You could easily max out all your best abilities and still put some points in a bunch of trash.

well what do we have here

>>5828774
my dick in your mouth

>>5828774
two off the grail in one night boys

>>5829276
How fast can that ice meme build clear chaos?

>>5826392
Pretty stock Diablo 2 clone. Kind of boring and doesn't add anything to the formula.

>>5829323
>>5829276
and how does it compare to Faith?

>>5829432
well i generally am on the off hand which is up'd titans / isted monarch, lightning fury is definitely my go to in chaos unless i run into storm casters. it is a bit slower in my experience than a properly built faith MS/strafezon was back when i tried that, especially since you rarely see physical immunes in CS. i just think hybrid builds keep things more interesting.

Can anyone upload the files required for freeablo? I'm yet to find them.

>>5827765
You wouldn't believe how much characters i have started because i fucked 1 point.

>>5827765
desu i got so used to no respec that i always plan my guys way ahead because of this, never respecced here unless i misclick kek

>>5827765
1.13 masterrace reporting in, don't remember sanctuary before no respec and shitty rune drop rates XD

Haven't played this shit in a while guys. I'm going to get PlugY running in this bitch. I really miss playing trapsin.

who is best sister and why is it qt charsi

>>5830749
For me, it's Fara.

>>5830749
I love how she adores the barbarian.

>>5830776
BARBARIANED.com

>>5831128
Whirlwind's Charsi on his dick.

>no goth loli in town pouring a steady stream of sly, risqué obloquy on the Nec
will game designers ever get these subplots right?

>>5831356
get the fuck out of here you dumb retard, don't weeb up diablo as well

>start game as barbarian
>do ok
>have a sick axe
>start having to grind
>slowly, so slowly clear the Hive
>keep dying
>finally make it to the end
>this fucking thing makes Ubers look like a cake walk.

>>5831524
>keep my ancient mughal scrollwork forum pure
no lol

>>5831568
>30000 hitpoints
What the fuck, that is half a Hell Andariel and I thought Diablo attacks did piddly damage relative to Diablo 2.

Played a pirated version of D2 a bunch when I was younger, looking to pick up an official copy to play online after all these years. Are most of the keys included with eBay copies banned from Battle.net? Seem to recall that was a problem with used Warcraft 3 disks a while back.

>>5831792
Item stores sell cd keys, the reason I mention it is because most will give you alternative ones if you send back a screencap showing the key(s) are in use or banned.

A legit pair from Blizzard is just $20 though.

>be necro
>kill a giant spoidah
>spawn a fucking SKELETON from it
wtf

>>5831854
>kill a human sized skeleton
>a human sized skeleton violently explodes into gore that it doesn't have, pulling out the skeleton from within the skeleton
Necromancers don't give a damn. They'll find your skeleton and they'll make it fight. It doesn't matter if you are a giant, a midget or even a ghost, they'll compress your ectoplasm into bones.

>>5831834
$20 for a digital copy of a two decade old game seems a bit much. I got the boxed copy half a dozen years back.

It's probably just my second Horizon's...

>>5832157
Oh guess not.

Thank you random skull pile, but I need Ber.

>>5811052
Is it still impossible to play singleplayer at uncapped framerate? As far as I know you can only do this by making a LAN game but you can't save the map. Before anyone says animations doesn't affected by the framerate, the mouse movement would be a lot smoother.

>>5832193
Use the basemod plugin. Even allows quick clicking items between inventories.

>>5831740
Looks like one of The Hell mods, which are exceedingly difficult. Diablo 1 was already harder than D2 by a solid margin.

Cool stuff in those mods, but you really have to play the monster AI once you get deep enough. It has the Hive and Crypt coming after Hell I think, instead of concurrently, so it's 24 levels a difficulty.

I think Hell difficulty Diablo topped out at 13k life.

>>5831949
Well there's plenty of demand for credentials since the company still maintains the realms and does ladder resets and updates. No one will know or give a shit if you yarr it for SP though.

>>5817001
>Put all stats into magic
>Have 40hp
>Mana shield doesn't drop till end of the Cats or in the Caves.
>Literally die to the first volley of arrows from any goat packs or acid spitters in one hit.

Maybe it you're using dupped gear in multiplayer. You can't min max that hard.

>>5832505
Except I did. Just load the game if you die like every other character would. Not like you should die anyways, the game gives you a virtually unlimited supply of 100% healing. Acid spitters aren't a threat, their projectiles have shitty travel distance. Goat clans are annoying, but still won't one hit you as long as you play carefully, which did admittedly kill me a few times before I learned how to fight them.

>>5832567
>Reach caves as warrior with no elemental resistances.
>Lightning demons and Lava Lords tear me a new asshole
>Find a shield of +25% all resistance
>Find Lachdanan's helmet
>Have max resist on all elements by the time I'm fighting mages and succubi. Can literally tank entire rooms full of them without any health pots.

>>5832160
Lucky. That's godly for a kicksin.

What’s the best single minded build for a Barb? What I mean is 20 skill points for all stats that affect each other?

where to get original diablo 1 and how to play it?

>>5833289
https://freegogpcgames.com/3227/diablo/

>>5832160
>>5832169
Damn anon.

>>5832160
god this is like my favorite item that i haven't found

How easy it is for a trapsin to clear hell?

>>5833320
Torrent, bah!
>>5833289
There's a web port now that lets you play through the shareware version and even the full game if you've the files. Google it, I'm sure everything you need will be available.

>>5833498
pretty easy thanks to death sentry exploding corpses for you. i'd go so far as to say it's the easiest sin to clear hell with.

>>5833289
Steal or $10 on gog.com.

Gog version has the Hellfire expansion, which is hard to find elsewhere. It also comes with higher resolutions.

Beezelbub and The Hell are great mods. The Hell particularly has a feature to run while in combat. However, I'd highly recommend you play the base game first. Unfortunately, these are the only two really good complete modern mods for D1. They are great, especially The Hell 2. They are also hard as fuck.

Basic is a quick game. Great atmosphere. Better than D2 lore and pacing. A bit harder, expect to die more, but not super hard.

Should I enable Linear Magic Find Drop Rates? Is it overpowered?

>>5833507
Every assassin should use death sentry. It isn't like you have that many skills you want to dump a bunch of points into anyways except for the trapsin who upgrades it anyways for the synergy.

>>5832207
Finally got working
>high resolution
>EAX 3D sound
>singleplayer uncapped fps
>gold autopick up
I'M COMING HOME LADS

>>5834643
Oh boy, probably doesn't work with PlugY right?

>>5834649
It's all running through PlugY. Extended stash, skill point unassignment and all.
>DllToLoad=BaseMod.dll|D2MultiRes_113c.dll

>>5834656
Well fuck me, I have to get this running.

>>5834643
Can you see the mobs at the edge of the screen standing there before you get close enough for them to agro?

>been playing yearly since the game came out
>introduced many friends to it and taught them how to combine multires with plugy
>have posters in my room
>just now heard of basemod

How is this possible?
Also, with uncapped FPS, does your cursor glove spazz out and do shrine texts disappear to quickly? That's my one issue with TCP/IP games.

>>5834823
>How is this possible?
Virtually no one visits the D2mods forum. It is practically dead in terms of discussion, yet top tier content is still produced en masse.

Oh boy, another Vortex after 4 months of playing!

>>5835030
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>5835034
>damage affix
>low tier affix
>3 sockets
>ethereal with 3 sockets
>middle of the road defense roll
Adorably terrible.

>>5835034
It's worth some (You)s though.

>>5835085
I have this one to comfort me tho...

>>5834808
I'm not far enough into the game to test this with high level mobs but this is the best I can show

>>5835283
He's asking because you're not supposed to do that. The reason it happens is because of the way the AI is scripted; they don't see you yet, because they normally have a vision range about as large as yours. Since your vision has been artificially extended but theirs hasn't been altered, you can sneak by them like that when you can't in the base game. It could be called cheating, but it's so minor that I don't know if I can agree. You're the one playing it, so you'd know how busted it is.

What is Animated items in inventory? I haven't seen any animations

I've been lurking these threads for months without even opening the game. ;_;

>>5835435
It allows for modders to add in animated items. Basemod was designed to be a basic functionality plugin for mods that would build on top of it, hence its name. Many of the features are completely irrelevant to you.

>>5835510
Okay so this is one of those options meant to be enabled for other mods through PlugY like increased levels and additional music which doesn't concern Diablo 2

fuck me mad i'm trying to make infinity and i cannot for the life of me find an ethereal elite polearm. how did i find the runes before the base?

>>5835862
Don't search for it and it will drop.

Is there a proper way to pirate D2 to play its mods? Last time i tried to pirate diablo 2 it was very bugged on windows 10

>>5835862
I got the runes before the base too, but then I started resetting LK maps for a thresher rack, and now we did it.

>>5835862
just get an eth exceptional polearm and cube it up.

>>5835435
Thanks anon, that's exactly what I meant. Now if you could mod the game further to extend the range monsters can see to as far as you can then that would be cool. Would make for some pretty crazy battles.

What's the consensus on the Playstation version of Diablo? I'm aware it is missing the lighting effects and some animations, but on the other hand, controller support instead of carpal tunnel.

Going to replay D1 in the near future.

Enigma was a mistake

>>5835926
where's a good resource to find weapon/armor rack info?

>>5836240
Just pretend it doesn't exist.

>kill the literal Lord of Destruction, Baal
>Tyrael opens a portal
>I come back to the beginning where I actually didn't do anything at all yet
what did he mean by this

>>5836539
nightmare, HELL

Is there a mod that adds another difficulty after hell? Raise the level cap, add a higher tier of items etc?

>>5836623
medianXL adds new stuff

>>5836539
>heaven and hell constantly battle over worldstone
>worldstone can be used to create worlds
>every world they create is shit and fails
>worldstone gets stolen by some fags
>fags use it to create sanctuary ("earth") and beings that would eventually become humans
>worldstone is then hidden in a mountain
>lots of gay lore shit happens
>baal wants to corrupt the worldstone
>corrupting the worldstone would turn all humans into demons
>some based dudes kill baal
>too late, worldstone is corrupted
>tyrael teleports heroes to safety and destroys worldstone
>everything is fucked
>20 years later diablo 3 begins
The ending was the cinematic of tyrael destroying the worldstone, the 'going back to the beginning' thing is just ng+.

>>5836631
Median is a mess. I just want the same game with another difficulty, more points to spend and harder mobs.

>>5836276
Youtube.

>>5836737
I never bothered to read any of the Lord of Destruction story. That's some serious nu-Blizzard retardation.

Jesus Christ, I forgot how brutal this game gets in Hell. Nowhere to funnel enemies, and I just got a floor with nothing but Storm Demons, Spitters, and Succubi. Truly Hell.

I'm still waiting.

>>5837134
>Rogue
You've got nothing to complain about if you're not playing Warrior

>>5815528
>>5815983
javazon

On the final level. This game is very exciting. Taking a break for now, but I'll see if I can beat Diablo this evening.

I played this game back in the 90s as a kid, but I only beat it in multiplayer. With duped items and using the Apoc cheese strat if I remember.

I just beat hell ancients with a meme shadow disciplines assassin. Don't @ me.

Literally impossible if you get this combo.

>>5837853
How many times did you reset them to get workable mods before you killed them?

>>5837768
>>5837864
It's funny, I've got thousands of hours in D2, but I don't think I've ever actually completed D1.

EZ.

Died twice. Once in the caves. Went down the stairs and was met by an enclosed horde of spitters, with roaming horned demons on either side. Absolute bullshit. Once in Hell, started in the wrong direction and pulled a horde of Azure Drakes with nowhere to kite.

Diablo himself is...not as hard as I remembered. I stunlocked him with my basic attack.

>>5837895
Diablo 2 has much more content, and thus replayability. But it is kind of tedious. Diablo 1 is a very tense, almost horror experience. Diablo 2 is pretty mindless. On the other hand Diablo 1 only has 3 characters, who differ in mechanics, not skills, and limited builds. So it isn't something you're gonna play for hundreds of hours.

>>5837895
like 4 times, and I didn't even read the mods, just started fighting, and reset if it was too hard.

>>5837931
>differ in mechanics
Huh? They all have the same mechanics, just with different animation frames. And really they all play the same, because you might as well just magic your way through the late game even as a warrior.

>>5837917
The music and atmosphere of D1 and 2 are unparalleled in todays gaming.

The ultimate Diablo would take the survival/dungeon crawler aspect of Diablo 1, the graphics and build variety of 2, and I don't know what it would take from 3. I guess the parallax backgrounds are kind of cool.

>>5838989
Hate to be cliche, but I there's a reason the Souls games were popular. Being dark and gritty while also having an actual style isn't easy.

>>5836237
It have additional effects like birds in town or reflections in water. So something for something. Game play is different. You cant easily do some things, you can do on mouse. Its perfectly playable on pad and in my opinion better version for single-player and co-op. Oh and camera is better.

>>5839471
Honestly, as boring as it is, Diablo 3's controller support is so good and I wish I could play Diablo 2 that way.

I already replayed Diablo on PC, and by the caves I needed to take a break. Mouse is objectively more precise, sure, but it also is objectively more stressful on the wrist.

Next time I replay it'll be on the Playstation just to see the differences. It is a game I picked up for cheap, but only played around for 15 minutes or so. Graphics are definitely worse, but not as bad as I thought they'd be. Its mainly that it looks flat.

>>5839001
From 3 it should take qol changes. Gold pickup, filtering, gem stacking, etc...

>>5839001
It needs splitscreen co op on pc if you want to utilize it, and an in game way to advertise and trade your drops with one another. Never does it need a real money auction house again.
>>5839569

>>5837864
>Lava maws immune to fire
>Succubi too
>Councilors immune to everything

I'd just reroll such a shitty map. Even with max magic you're going to sprint through potions taking all that damage and have to stone curse everything.

Rare case where a warrior can clear Hell/Hell quicker.

>>5812315
Found this earlier today.
Then a perfect (15% 3 ar) superior ethereal 4 socket Balrog blade drops.
Then I stick Oath in it for fun and end up with basically perfect stats.
Then a fucking 15% ed eth Colossus Blade drops.
One socket quest later, "Well, there's really only one thing this rune is good for."
>415% ED
Okay game I can take the hint, you want me to make a WW Barb. Anyone good a great / god tier WW Barb build that uses a BOTD Colossus Blade?

>>5836631
>MedianXL

I wouldn't suggest that mod to someone that just wants a "Vanilla+" experience, the mod changes/adds a lot of core features on top of remaking all the skills. Go for Path Of Diablo if you want vanilla with QoL additions/changes and more endgame quests.

>>5837134
D1 is most enjoyable as a rougelike.

Just never go back to town.

It's fun in a team. Don't expect to win, like 90% of the time you'll die.

You can also do visits to town once every 4 levels. Multiplayer rouge/warrior team works best. Mage isn't that useful because without the store you rely on book drops.

Some people do a mage and just don't let them get much exp. Pump magic and get firewall. Firewall's damage is dungeon level based so killing D is way easier with a firewall and warrior tanking.

Stone curse can be usefull too in emergencies but it costs too much mana. Basically a wizard has to sit back and use heal other and fire walls and staff charge spells or using scrolls. You don't get enough potions to waste mana. Mana in rougelike mode is for casting healing.

>fire wall is best spell I have
>spam it
>get trapped
>try to run
>forget Diablo I has friendly fire on at all times
>burn myself to death

>>5841436
wow, lmao

>>5841436
Lava Lords and Acid Spitters are such a pain in the ass when you get to the caves. The Lightning demons are pretty easy it seems.

Post drops

>>5842273
i'm away from my house so i can't post it, but most exciting drop for me so far was actually not grail related - doing single pass full clear with my assassin and i found fucking death's guard AND death's hand. no idea how small the odds on that are but the two together are really fucking useful. still in act 1 at the moment, sitting around level 16 and i've decided to stick with traps unless i find some really nice melee stuff. once i get some potentially good weapons i'm thinking about going trap / dtalon hybrid like someone here suggested.

>He hires mercenaries

>>5842327
Death's stuff are a set so it is Grail related. Set and Unique Sash are actually top tier Grail item since they're TC3.

>>5842426
i already have those two in my grail from other characters though. only low uniques / sets i can think of offhand that i'm missing are cow king boots, tancred gloves and blinkbat's and i'm definitely not holding my breath for any of those on this character

>>5842273
I will when I get one, bitch.

>>5840704
>Anyone good a great / god tier WW Barb build that uses a BOTD Colossus Blade
Still looking. I made a WW Barb ages ago, but most likely an incredibly inefficient one so I'd rather not rely on those rusty memories to do it and all I can find are budget builds.

>>5842906
I really didn't understand the question. How complicated can it be to make a WW barb; max WW, orders, mastery, and wear the stuff you have on your gear slots? Since the sword is already taken care of get the resists up and check tables to verify the IAS breakpoints.

>>5842947
>IAS breakpoints
>whirlwind

>>5842947
The skills bit sure yeah easy enough, I'm asking about equipment as that's what I usually fuck up.

>>5836237
unique thing about ps1 version of diablo is that it has a speed setting, you can set it to fast and it plays much more fluid than diablo on the pc but of course controls on the pad are not nearly as good as on pc

Which class uses BOTD and in which weapon?

>>5843337
I remember buying it from some site for a friends werewolf druid on his birthday, it was supposed to be the best weapon for that build. In some eth elite maul.

>>5842951
OK faggot, here is pasta regarding reaching the 4 frame breakpoint for WW:

>1 handed weapons all hit the last break point for whirlwind at -34.

>2 handed swords being used as a 2 handed weapon hit the last breakpoint at -51. But when used as a 1 handed they hit at the same as a 1 handed weapon.

>All 2 handed weapons other then swords hit at -59.

>To find out what your weapon hits at is simple. Take the base speed then subtract that number with how much increased attack speed you have on the weapon itself. Then that number is what your weapons speed really is.


One thing seems apparent from discussions and that is with whirlwind, you cannot use IAS mods that come from outside the weapon. 60 from botd seems prodigious but based on this information it appears the CB (speed +5) only gets down to -55 and would need -59?

>>5843957
hmmm it looks like he might be in the clear because 2h swords have an exception.

>>5843341
From shitposts I narrowed it down to

>berserk axe
>thunder maul
>war pike
>great poleaxe

>>5844349
Thunder maul, that's the one.

>>5843957
Consider the context, you stupid dummy. We are talking about a colossus blade BOTD, and thus it makes no sense to talk about IAS breakpoints since the WIAS is fixed, therefore the post has to be referring to non-weapon IAS, which does not apply to whirlwind.

>>5834643
The mouse almost feels too smooth now, lmao. Can't wait to get used to it, it's great.

>>5844349
I also heard about Archon Staffs?

>>5843957
>>5844576
Am still looking for any advice desu, If I remember my old shitfit clownsuit it was something like:
>BOTD Colossus blade / sword
>Stornshield with either an Um or Ber rune
>Chains of Honor archon plate
>String of ears belt
>Waterwalk boots
>Arreat's face
I don't remember the amulet, rings or gloves, but I'm assuming that the amulet was Highlords.

I'm sure this could be done far less shitly but I don't know the best way to go about it. All I am sure of is I want max resists and damage reduction in Hell, even if I can to use charms for the last bit of resists.

>first magic item dropped is a rare
>it's not a katar
>it's actually kinda neat

>>5813106
My first Dio2 character was a necro with all points put into Teeth (for some reason). Didn't get pass Duriel.

>>5813767
Coldress: Max out Blizzard/Frozen Orb and put a book on W and M2.
Bonus style points from dying to a single ice immune mob.

First unique drop, from a sarcophagus, five minutes before killing Andariel.

>>5845108
nice. i've gotten two uniques and two sets just in act 1 on my single pass full clear assassin. thanks to players 8 and to my first unique being a gull, lel

>>5845169
I remember my last playthrough, before I formatted the HDD. Normal A3 and only two set items found.
Right now I just got the cube but already have two uniques and three set items

>>5844992
thats ok friend
my first character was a melee sorc with points into Blaze, Enchant and Chain Lightning.
I never got past Act 3.

>>5844576
No, the rate at which whirlwind makes attacks is not fixed, at least not according to the shitposts I found. It tops out at 4 frames per attack, which is 6 attacks per second; the peculiarity with WW discussed in them is that only IAS mods on the weapon(s), plus or minus its intrinsic modifier, matter at all (i.e., can't get whirlwind IAS from a glove).

>>5844839
if you insist on wielding BOTD one handed I think an ethereal dimensional blade is the highest possible damage there. I think you sacrifice too much damage going 1 handed, good enough stuff in the other slots and you will not need stormshield.

Apart from that decision here is my advice on gear: go to your stash, look through the pages, choose the best barbarian items you have for each gear slot, and put them on the barbarian.

>>5845682
>if you insist on wielding BOTD one handed
I don't "insist" on anything, other than using a Colossus Blade since I've already shoved my Zod rune into one.

One handed with a shield, two handed, two swords with one in each hand, whatever. As long as it works best. That list I said is just the shit I used to wear a decade ago which prob had too much of some things and not enough of others.

>>5845727
since you already made the CB, go ahead and 2-hand it, I would say. Draculs will help address any concerns about dying.

First time playing a Bonemancer after years of only ever being a Summonmancer.
Finally around lv45 doing 1k per Bone Spear and walling off groups of enemies with Bone Prison.
Just fucking raped Duriel with that combo.
Holy fuck Bone Prison is so fucking overpowered.

Now trying to decide what merc I want to go for. I have an Act 2 Defiance/Insight merc right now but wondering what other ideas you guys had. Holy Freeze Act 2 merc? Act 5 Barb with the Sanctuary aura sword? Act 1 Rogue with Harmony?

>>5845682
>>5846495
>ethereal Dimensional Blade is the highest possible damage
>36 damage average with ethereal
>Colossus Blade - 45 damage average (1 handed, before ethereal, 68 with it)

Thanks Travincal, but I need a Ber.

>>5846684
Thanks Lower Kurast, but I need a BER.

Reminder that BoTD is almost worthless if you are a barbarian. Dual wielding griefs will deal significantly more damage with anything that isn't single weapon only (i.e. berserk). So at best, BoTD should be on some fat weapon like a thunder maul and only for weapon swapping to kill physical immunes.

>>5845682
>ethereal dimensional blade
bro dimensional blades aren't even an elite weapon and the elite version, phase blades, can't be ethereal

>>5846860
ok nigger

>>5846697
At least one item closer to Holy Grail!

>>5846942
>>5846590
eth dimensional blade does more damage than a phase blade. Normally there is no use for this oddity because no one makes a one handed botd when there is grief.

>>5847074
Why the fuck would you use a dimensional blade over a colossal blade or a berserker axe or basically any elite 1 handed weapon that supports 6 sockets? Who cares if it does more damage than a phase blade, using phase blades or dimensional blades is retarded for BoTD.

A FUCKING LEAF

>>5847589
>not making it on a +3 fireball base
Disgusting waste of such valuable runes.

One of the better feelings in the game.

>>5847601
No need to worry, it was put into a stalagmite so it was obsolete well before the level requirement.

Is BOTD even the best weapon?

Couldn't a rare get grandmasters and cruel for up to 600% ED and then have +skills, dual leach, and + damage, and 40% IAS.

Then you can socket it with IAS/ED jewls.

>>5847813
BOTD is not the best weapon by any perspective except from that of a druid or a druid impersonator. You can't get grandmaster's on a rare, but you can get master's which loses only 50% ED. It also doesn't help that the chance of getting a rare weapon of your preferred type with master's, cruel and everything else is 1 in a trillion, and if it isn't also ethereal then it will basically be equivalent to BOTD. Regardless, they are both dumpster fodder in comparison to Grief.

>>5847813
It can, but I bet you'll get 3-5 zod drops before you get a rare with those mods

>>5847813
hasnt been for a long time though it has some niche uses.
it was mostly the "look at me I found a zod" back in the day when rune drops were way more rare

>>5847813
A rare cannot spawn grandmasters and cruel, no. In fact I don't think a rare can spawn either one.

>>5848215
Half right. A rare can spawn cruel, but it cannot spawn cruel. It might sound like I am saying the same thing twice, but there are in fact two different cruel affixes. One is cruel-51, which has a required level of 51 and a frequency of 5 and can only spawn on magics, whereas cruel-56 has a required level of 56, a frequency of 1 and can spawn on both magics and rares (but of course cruel-51 and cruel-56 are mutually exclusive). This ultimately means that cruel is much, much more common on magics than rares, since frequency determines the odds, with the given frequency divided by the sum of all possible affixes.

>>5847813
It's the best looking weapon.

With a BOTD Colossus Blade you get a 7 foot translucent dick with loads of big numbers, with a Grief Phaseblade you get a 3 inch ugly blue micropenis that looks like it only does 31 to 35 damage with nothing especially cool looking about the modifiers at first glance.

It's why back in the day when it was fairly new I was obsessed with it. 'It uses the rarest rune, that has to make it the best, right?'

Can some mechanicsfag explain to me why grief so heavily outclasses other weapons? I know it has +400 damage which it's average damage higher than botd. Is that it? Or is there something else that makes it even better?

>>5848448
>only kind of damage that adds onto smite
>highest damaging one-handed weapon even if you exclude all the other bonuses
>20% deadly strike is a huge damage boost
>185% enhanced damage against demons is a huge damage boost
>excellent attack speed bonus
The only thing it doesn't have is crushing blow, but you can get that on your other slots.

A lordly gift, or is it?

>>5848534
Hard cheese.

noice

Yay, it dropped...

>>5848637
>>5848719
Literally no drops?

man took me like a week to get a Ber from LK farming,although i did waste a Lo to make grief and a Vex to make hoto,but fuck me i don't think i can stomach this trash anymore

>>5848817
Do you have a good map and how much does it take you to complete a run?

>>5848840
well uhh i had a shittier one but i got this one now >>5848637
a run takes like 30 seconds,im gonna make it bros...imma get my infinity...

>>5848857
I LITERALLY do NOT see a drop in that image, and that map also has only two chests. 30 seconds is also slow.

>>5848868
wut,it got 4 chests,I was just showing off my perfect map

>>5848889
Daamn boi, you can auto reveal the map with the MH. And I'm not sure how it takes you 30 with a perfect map like that.

>>5848903
i just use the maphack for the loot filter,i aint no cheater

>>5848936
Using the MH to reveal the map isn't cheating when you have teleport and a permanent map. It's pretty autistic revealing the map yourself.

>>5848949
>maphacking isn't cheating
Why exactly do you use it then if it isn't giving you any undeserved benefits? Filthy cheater.

>>5848967
Because I'm not autistic. I only use the filter and the map reveal.

>>5848534
>>5848537
Now we're talking. 9 skeletons, 3 mages, 5 revives. The mouse is smooth, revives teleport to you every few meters, auto gold pickup, I'm in heaven right now.

>>5848813
The first one is perfect LK map and second is Gnasher, which is TC3 so rare drop.
>>5848817
Move to Travincal.

>>5849242
enigma time