/vr/ - Retro Games

It's probably harder for the young generations to appreciate short arcade games you play for the score since Sony entered on the market and claimed all games must have a big story and be super long. They really killed the japanese industry.

Its a 1cc by definition, what is this question? An easy 1cc doesnt stop being a 1cc, and a 1cc in a pvp oriented game is also still a 1cc. Waste of time though imo

>>5784235
>do you give a fuck about faggots larping about 1cc shit
no

You can get a 1cc on literally any game. Whether or not it's fun is a different question.

Street Fighter 2 gives you 1 point for every time you continue, which is the only way to score less than 100 points specifically so you can tell how many times someone has continued based on their score but that's more for rewarding players who run train on fools and take the time when finally defeated (or allowed to finish) and enter their initials more than to demonstrate 1cc runs vs the cpu

>>5784235
what the fuck is a 1cc for fighting games? who on earth has lost in arcade mode in this world?? what the fuck am i even reading holy shit

>>5784343
are you going to pretend like you've beaten Mortal Kombat 3 every time you played or are you going to understand what you said was stupid?

Anyone that plays fighting games for 1cc don't know anything about the genre

No, but managing to clear the survival mode on the Saturn version of SFA2 is an accomplishment.

>>5784343
sure nigga, try beating COTA or alpha 3 in 1 credit

>>5784527
At least in the ps1 alpha 3 you can loop several characters with ryu. Hop kick into sweep my nigga. Still hard as fuck though.

>Hop kick into sweep
>Yeah bro I know advanced SF techniques

>>5784343
>who on earth has lost in arcade mode
lmao boy do you not know about ST's arcade AI or what. Also you seem to be having a breakdown, should I call someone

>>5784538
Yeah, no one said that. Does the prospect of a 1cc in a fighting game being considered its own legitimate skill threaten you because you need fighting games to feel like a big man? Because you can will yourself into the sensation of beating someone up in display of dominance and still eat tacos all day?

Holy shit 5784883 is actually insane, /vr/ is a wild board

>>5784885
Yeah you better go back to your home board or I'm gonna get you, oooOOOOoooooooOOoo

Uh oh, watch out, I think I'm feeling another dangerous post about video games coming on!

Holy shit he's actually delusional.
Ignoring the schizophrenic poster, 1cc in fighting games mean nothing, it's amazing this is even a discussion

>>5784918
yeah dude holy shit what the fuck bro ...But really. If your idea of contesting this notion that you're a sad man using the topic of this discussion as a crutch for some air of dominance, writing off the other as a total invalid for introducing the idea is...kiiind of all the more credence to the point. I feel bad for your social handicaps.

>>5784938
You clearly have no interest in being sane or coherent or discussing the OP question, why are you even here?

>>5784527
I've beaten SFA3 on 1 credit, it's one of my favorite games and I've probably devoted at least two years of my life to it. My favorite character is Gen.

It's a show of skill for sure but given AI ranges in fighting games from 'doesn't even fight back' to 'koko desu ka koko desu ka lol fuck SNK' even beating some shows you're godly. Fighting games don't have 'extends' and don't reward playing insanely well against the CPU bar a few that have special 'new challengers' appear for certain criteria.

While we're here, brief SNK Fucks rogues gallery:
Geese/Krauser in early Fatal Fury
Most Rugals, the aforementioned Krizalid (KOF)
Johann (Rage of the Dragons, anyone actually beaten him?)
Sissy (Matrimelee, getting behind her is the only way you're gonna win this)
Whoever was the Breakers boss (did this but only a few times, he was unmemorable, hence why idk)
Any motherfucker in Galaxy Fight/Gowkaizer

I hear the actual hardest fighting game boss is from a 90s Taito fighter called Kaiser Knuckle/Dan Ku Ga. He's this general/dictator guy who just actively cheats and does shit a player cannot do. Japanese arcades threw special challenges for people to try and beat the motherfucker on max difficulty a while back - am sure I've seen it on YT. This kind of shit is how you 'play well' at vs fighters solo.

>>5785628
>actively cheats and does shit a player cannot do
It's hard to think of a fighting game with quarter-eater AI that doesn't do this. SF2 Guile is infamous for his walk-forward>flash kick. The AI in MK2 plays like it has a different goddamn engine being able to do things like OTG throws after sweep.

>>5784235
Play roguelikes. Or do a "nuzlocke challenge" of whatever game. Pokefans even made webcomics of them.
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/NuzlockeComics

>>5784265
>Muh young peeps these days amirite?
>Sony entered on the market and claimed all games must have a big story and be super long. They really killed the japanese industry.
Half the Ultima games were pretty long. Dragon Quests literally ripped off early Ultima games. Final Fantasys were long games before Sony Playstation entered the market.

Are you like 13?

>>5784235
No, because fighting games are substantially shorter, and AI can be spammed with cheap tricks. I can 1cc Tekken 3 as every character on any difficulty level, but that's not as impressive as someone 1cc'ing something like Contra. Not by a mile, IMO.

>>5785746
1 cc'ing Contra is a joke. It's difficulty is highly exaggerated. You get a ton of extra lives just by playing. I can't even beat Tekken with even one character and a ton of continues, so to me that is infinitely harder. Fighting games that I can 1cc I can count on one hand.

>>5785746
Go 1cc Karnov's Revenge on hardest difficulty.
It's gonna take a lot of practice and frustration.


>I can clear Tekken 3 easily
people can clear the popular fighting games because they've put hundreds of hours into them...Go try a fresh new fighting game you aren't familiar with. Your perspective might change.

>>5785628
>Johann (Rage of the Dragons, anyone actually beaten him?)
It was on Level 4 (default) difficulty, but I've been able to beat ROTD on one credit as Pepe and Pupa

Fighting games are a genre built on social gaming vs other real people. Interestingly, this is absolutely against developer wishes, who are faggots and can be safely ignored in favor of the actual gamer consensus. People playing fighting games vs each other built up the genre and defined it in ways developers would fail to understand for years after the fact.

And it doesn't have anything to do with beating arcade mode. Fighting games are good based on whether they provide a dynamic competitive environment that keeps bringing people in for more, nothing more and nothing less. The genre would be less if you somehow added more to it than that.

>Fighting other people is against dev wishes in fighting games
This board is fucking retarded

>>5786605
I'm pretty sure it's just one or two people who keep repeating stuff like that. It's like the Zelda is an RPG thing, once they find bait that gets responses it gets spammed as much as possible.

>>5786605
I guess that's why you stick around?

As someone else said, it isn't AS impressive to 1cc a fighting game as something else, since most such runs rely on following a script with your gameplay, and fighters are so short that there isn't that same battle of attrition to keep up with it. That said, I think non-TAS speedruns of arcade mode would be cool and take some genuine skill. Would be interesting to see what kind of compromise is necessary to save time and still keep control of the round.

>>5784416
Literally no one fucking person on the earth plays fighting games for 1cc

>>5787984
Some idiots here do it seems

>>5787984
>>5788473
I've played fighting games seriously and placed in tournaments, beasted in meets, and I remember when people would worship the ground walked on by people who were able to beat M. Bison, at all, in SF2 when it was brand new. Not to burst your fart-bubble in the middle of you smelling it or anything, but many--most--people couldn't give less of a fuck about being good at fighting games in a competitive sphere but still have an interest in the genre to whatever extent they care to delve in. And they're free to. Some assholes saying it's not the "right" way isn't a magic word that makes them realize you're so, so right, and that all the fun they thought they were having playing games however they feel like was just an illusion. Now go do what all the other "real" fighting game players on this site do, go to /fgg/ and post about panties.

>>5788484
>Capcomnigger
Stopped reading right there

I don't take pride in playing videogames.

>>5784352
no because mortal kombat is a steaming pile of horseshit of a fighting game.
>>5784527
cota and alpha 3 are easy..
>>5784883
i sure do, have never lost against an AI in my life.

>>5788918

>>5788943
What is this post supposed to mean?

>>5784317
>Getting a 1cc on games without credits
u wut m8
A no death run =/= a 1cc game

>>5787984
I do. I like to say I've beaten a game. With fighting games all you can really do is go up the single player arcade ladder. Infinite continues makes it a joke anyone could do, so the only other plausible option is 1cc.

>>5789126
Then you don't know anything about fighting games

>>5789131
Probably not, but I'm also not trying out for EVO either. On a non-online console like the SNES you played single player when no one else was around. It wasn't frowned upon and shunned like it is today where "only online matters" is the prevailing mindset of the FGC.

>>5789203
You don't know anything, this post is a joke

>>5788978
>epic fail
top kek kid

No because I don't give a single fuck if someone 1cc'd a game or not. Only losers care about trying to impress other losers with 1ccs.

>>5789203
It's not that anyone looks down playing single player, it's that most people who play fighters more than casually only use single player as training practice. And that getting good at cheesing AI isn't a terribly useful skill, so no one really cares about trying for 1ccs.

This was true in the old days too. I played probably hundreds of hours of single player MK2 on Genesis, and though it was fun the reason I kept playing so much was in large part for when me and friends were playing together.

>>5789998
God I wish that were me

>>5784312
Is LARP the new hot meme?

>>5790007
Mileena is the purest love

Beating arcade in a fighting game isn't much of anything. You do it in your first few hours playing a game, often even before you even learn to do special moves. HardMode bosses usally boil to having a high auto-block rate, and hoping they don't use their unblockable OP move. But it doesn't really matter because it becomes obvious the ai is horribly exploitable. Weather it's they can't handle projectiles, don't reconize super armor, or whatever. So beating them down won't teach you how to play the game beyound a basic level, and will actually build a number of bad habits.

>>5784527
Alpha 3 may be the easiest SF AI of all time. Especially Bison, considering how hard you can bait him by just tapping jab.

>>5790169
Okay yeah just go beat MK3 on SNES in a couple hours. 1cc remember, no cheating. See how far you get.

>>5790181
ports dont count sweetie, only arcade original

>>5790281
Lol as if anyone cares either way. It's still AI.

>MK 3 is a good game
>You should 1cc fighting games
Fucking hell this board

>>5790169
The point isn't whether or not it opens the door to playing the game competitively. It's just whether there's a merit to beating the single-player. You can say that getting good at beating the AI doesn't actually make you "good" at a fighting game (and you'd be right) but saying that all it is is recognizing what's exploitable, how to poke holes in and take advantage of loopholes in the patterns--you can say that about any single-player game, at all.

>>5787286
I don't see the differences between 1cc a shmup or a fighting game.
And I love cave's shmups

>>5790970
Lol that's not surprising.

>>5790970
>Cavefag
>Retarded
Sounds right

>>5790318
I agree with the fact that fighting games 1cc's are meaningless because of the AI, but saying they are easy its just exposing you as a drooling retard that plays them on consoles, because on the arcade they were designed to steal as much quarters from you as possible

>>5791168
"Artificial Difficulty" the post.

>>5791145
Frustrated Cavecel.

>>5791168
Try reading the thread chain. Some guy pointed out Alpha 3 was easy and then there was a super lame troll comment about the arcade version. Sure the arcade version is probably harder, bit it doesn't matter. It's not that fighting games can't be hard in single player, its that they're boring and beating them isn't a good indicator of overall skill.

>>5791509
True story. I watched an arcade run of Mortal Kombat 1 and all the guy did was jump kick 90% of the time. Wow, so skilled!
Why would anyone consider single player performance a good measurement of skill in a fighting game? Because the players are spamming block or fireball? lmao

>>5791514
Even truer story, that other 10% was a waste and he was probably only doing it to look a little less scrubby. Fighting games single player are a pretty terrible genre.

>>5791509
I dont give a shit about the developer intentions or this whole retarded discussion
I saw someone saying that arcade modes are easy and how no one is supposed to lose on them, and I called him out of his bullshit because he clearly doesn't play the original (arcade) version
End of the story

>>5792606
Those people come in three varieties

1) only played newer FGs like SF4 onward where the AI is total dogshit even on Hardest and will do things like random fullscreen ultra and never block
2) will lose and just go "pff whatever, singleplayer doesn't matter anyway"
3) the third and most likely option, only know how to play fighting games from watching or reading, and would say it's easy because they looked up the exploits online

>>5792606
Congrats on not being able to read then.

COTA is total rng whether magneto will let you win by putting the barrier down or not.
Some games like martial masters and rumble fish 2 let you fight true last bosses if you don't continue and I think SF EX too.
Ehh to me it's like 1cc'ing mahjong gamblers, sure it's possible but not really intended.

Geese in Aof2, General in Kaiser Knuckle, Goodman from Battle Coliseum
And how could we forget Order Sol.

The king of single player fightans will forever be sd hiryuu no ken densetsu. I mean, Tobal 2 Quest Mode.

I always thought it was interesting how in Astra Superstars the MvC Onslaught style hueg boss gets treated as a bonus round (since some characters have trouble hitting him) and the actual last boss is a joke stickman figure called test kun.
Probably the only fighting game character approved by the FGC right there, test-kun, it's a stick figure with shotoclone moves.

>>5789205
Cope seething dilate

>>5793353
Reminder this is the level of discussion people who 1cc fighting games are on

>>5793353
Lol literally no one anywhere is seething over losers playing fighting games in single player mode.

>>5793354
Let's all agree everyone looks like a retard here. Videogame skill has no useful application in real life, no one cares either way.

>>5793554
What a copout holy shit

>>5793554
We're sorry that no one cares about your single player fighting game skills lol. No one is being elitist, it's just surreal. It's like watching some kid bouncing tennis balls off a wall for hours on end and when you say "hey want to play a game of tennis?" he refuses and gets mad because you weren't admiring how good he is at playing by himself.

>>5794882
No one cares about your tourneyfag skill either. It's just a game with no real life application.

>>5796319
>missing the point this badly

Lol

>>5796514
I get it. The point is that you troll young kids to make them feel inadequate about their gaymer skillz. But that doesn't get to me because I'm a retired hardcore gaymer and let me tell you, nobody cares about your mad skillz irl.
Just enjoy yourself, there are no rules.

>>5797881
As a matter of fact this applies to real life too. Social media (yes 4chan is a social network) trick you into the illusion that everybody is judging you all the time. It's bullshit.
If you have fun killing Order Sol over and over with instakills, so be it.

>>5797881
>The point is that you troll young kids to make them feel inadequate about their gaymer skillz.

I haven't done that at all though.

>>5797909
I don't believe you even play fighting games.
I have played with the twitch community from my shithole country and they've been extremely friendly and welcoming. It's only on 4chan that tourneyfags have a dick up their ass. I'm saying that I don't buy your "skillz", it's all a bluff to troll newfriends.

>>5797930
/ggg/ is great though

>>5797938
Don't care.

>>5797930
You're either mixing me up with another anon or misunderstanding. I'm pretty good mostly just because I've been into fighters for so long, but that doesn't mean anything. I do think they get more fun the more skilled you are, but even then one of I think the greatest things about the genre is if the person you're playing with is around your same skill level they're incredibly fun all the way from novice to tourney fag tier.

I am very vocal that I think its a pretty awful genre as a single player game and usually I'm objective about it. But there's that one guy in particular who keeps bringing up single player and wanting people to care, usually getting very deffensive and jerkish and at this point it's just become fun to poke him. But make no mistake, it has nothing to do with his or my relative skill levels.

>>5784265
Literally nothing to do with OP but still based.

>>5798279
I didn't say that, but you're correct that even in my prime I wasn't a very good player, I was always pretty lackluster but it was good enough to play with muh highschool friends. Not everybody cares about winning EVO or being a videogame savant.

>>5799248
>Not everybody cares about winning EVO or being a videogame savant.

Never meant to imply they should be

>>5784265
>Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>WAHHHHHHH
>WAH
Wow, baby, shhh. Stop being a fag.

>>5799421
>such great art
>such breathtaking music
>those charming little interwoven stories
>such incentive to replay with such a deep and complex crafting system
>utter dogshit controls and broken, boring combat

Gee, thanks Squeenix

>>5787134
>tries to sneak in his own bait of Zelda isn't an rpg under the guise of calling out people baiting
You can fuck off too

>>5799469
Not him but I've often wondered if a bunch of the bait memes here were all the same guy they're so similar.

>>5784235
1cc is how you beat an arcade game
if you want to beat a fighting game you 1cc it.

is it an accomplishment to beat an arcade game? Depends what your goal is. That's all

>>5799486
There is a difference though between a game that's designed primarily as a single player challenge and one primarily as a multiplayer challenge though, which is what OP was asking.

Single player focused games like a shmup have to be precisely designed so that getting a good score while not dying is a satisfying gameplay experience and the heart of the challenge. Where as in competitive games the design focus goes into multiplayer leaving the single player mode less finely tuned as a satisfying challenge.

With fighting games in particular and old ones even moreso, because the computer can't strategize the way a human can, the only way they had to make them a challenge is to have it cheat in various ways. So when the whole design of the game is around a level playing field, for the player to win they almost have to cheat as well by exploiting whatever the computer is worst at over abd over to win.

That's why 1ccing something like Gradius is usually seem as more "legitimate" than Street Fighter.

>>5799523
I see they spent precious development time and resources adding Quest Mode to Tobal 2 because you're meant to hotseat co-op with a friend by passing controllers.
Thanks 4chan I will stop having enjoying games the incorrect way from now on.

>>5799523
I see they spent precious development time and resources adding Quest Mode to Tobal 2 because you're meant to hotseat co-op with a friend by passing controllers.
Thanks 4chan I will stop enjoying games the incorrect way from now on.

>>5800538
I would really like to see the FGC tourneytards try their hand on the 100 floor post-game dungeon in this. I thin it would make for a great youtube clickbait as they cry of unfair input reads.

>>5799523
This is pure cope.
Single player modes are specifically designed in fighters because developers know you won't always have someone to play against. And some players would deny challenges and want to play against the AI for whatever reason.

>muh input reading
Doesn't matter, you can practice to out play the AI and get a 1cc. It's still a challenge for new players. Beat em Off bosses also suffer from input reading and being susceptible to gimmicks...

>shmups
Shmups also have stupid shit like enemies coming from behind , rng suicide bullets, and sense patterns you have to memorize because they are too fast to react to.

>>5800769
Dense* patterns

>>5784235
They're legit, but just not really that hard. The enemy A.I. is very easy to exploit and there is massive room for error. It's nothing like trying to 1cc a shmup.

>>5784343
I'd like to see you sit down and 1cc KOF 96 on the hardest difficulty right now without any practice.

>>5800791
There's tons of easy shmups to 1cc. And shmups are more designed around score (even the bad ones), 1cc is an artificial challenge for scrubs, since it mostly ignores the real heart of the game and mechanics, score.

>>5800802
>There's tons of easy shmups to 1cc.
If we're including console shmups, maybe.

>>5800802
The easiest 1cc shmup is harder to 1cc than any capcom or snk fighting game.

>>5800828
>[batsugun special] is harder to 1cc than any... snk fighting game
alright lets back up a little m8

>>5800802
What sort of shooter doesn't reset your score when you continue?

They way I see it, and the way I've always experienced it, is that single player is good for starting with the game, see if there's any story or lore to pick up and delve into the game world a bit more, and try out all the characters.
Fighting the CPU is never as good as fighting a human (well, it depends, we're talking about another human who at least knows the game's basics), but if you want to screw a bit and play the game alone, I don't see why not. I get it though, nowadays there's online so there's "no excuse". Well, I assume for toruneyfags, that's understandable, but sometimes you just want to relax and play a few fights, just to enjoy the gameplay, visuals and music, you know? Without lobbies or messages with other people cluttering the experience.
Then again, modern games are a bit soulless, and the amount of loading times and long cutscenes there might be on single player mode might ruin that old experience of blasting through some older fighting game.
But anyway, this is /vr/, so back in the day, single player is what you played it nobody else around wanted to play, some games also had training mode, or other kind of SP modes, especially console ports.

You see anon, when I say that it's just a game and you should chill, I'm not trolling, trying to destroy your culture or ruin your fun. I'm just stating an observable fact.
It's pretty clear that you've all taken what was supposed to be a relaxing leisure activity way too far and now you have sunken cost fallacy. This is why you're constantly attacking invisible invaders. You forgot what was most important, to have fun, learn more about yourself and use what you've learned from vidya in real life.

>>5800538
Sure there are a few, but that you had to go to Tobal 2 for an example kinda makes my point.

>>5800769
What am I supposed to be coping with? I'm just laying out the way the games are made and what the fans of them tend to focus on.

>Doesn't matter, you can practice to out play the AI and get a 1cc. It's still a challenge for new players.

This is generally true, it is decent as a training mode but since single and multiplayer are so different it's not great beyond basic training. Personally I don't care if someone only ever wants to play in singleplayer mode, it's their game. But most who play fighters aren't and too much AI training builds bad habits and I've seen many people new to multiplayer get annoyed when they keep losing because they play like they're fighting a computer. Even if they've been doing something very challenging like 1ccing '98 with the sports team and never getting down to Brian or HeavyD

Anyways as said, they're games. They exist for us to have fun with and if however someone plays it is fun for them that's all that matters. But as for the question of the thread relates to outside perceptions. Go into a shmup board and they'll be talking about scoring, and loops on 1 credit. Because that's what the most people into shmups are into. Go to a fighting board and they're all talking about matchups, frame data, combos etc. Overwhelmingly none of them talk or care about single player mode and completing challenges in it. That's not me trolling or coping, that's just answering the question legitimately.

>>5801616
People who play arcade games and care about 1cc runs don't look down upon fighting game 1ccs or think they are illegitimate.

>but the modern FGC doesn't care about singleplayer modes
they also don't care about "1cc" in general. It's two different communities with different goals.
The FGC wants to win tournaments and crush real players. The arcade crowd is more into single or co-op play, doing no-death runs, getting high scores, survival runs, and finding new strats to crush the AI.

Someone in the FGC who plays online won't care about your 1cc in any game. So what? I care, and there are other people who care but they aren't in the FGC,, they are in the arcade community.

Like these dudes, Scoop who is amazing at beat em ups, Vludi and Emuser who are super good at shmups...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZ-AXtc5eA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJN3Ne1moQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZVBk1PW2H4

>>5801649
>People who play arcade games and care about 1cc runs don't look down upon fighting game 1ccs or think they are illegitimate.


Maybe that's a community I haven't interacted with a ton. I have been into fighting games a long long time and love them but wouldn't really call myself a member of the "fighting games community" likewise I enjoy some shmups but don't really get into the scene the way fans do.

I'm just giving what I know from the communities I've interacted with. If there are general arcade fans who go for 1ccs of all sorts of things, that's cool and they like playing fighters like that then I say rock on. I've never really heard of them though.

So then what was the point of this whole thread?

>>5801585
Who are you talking to?

>>5804026
I'm quoting my dead grandfather. How dare you reply to me.

>>5801682
These "communities" are pretty shitty circlejerks and I have my doubts they actually even play games. Seems to me like they are more addicted to cultivating a shitposter persona than honing their skills in games.

>>5785746
>AI can be spammed with cheap tricks
And shmups have safe spots, games like Ghosts and Goblins have enemy despawns, beat em ups can have stun locks, etc. Most games have some sort of exploit or a number of exploits that are employed to regularly 1CC, that's just the nature of figuring out how to beat 1 player games.

>>5801616
Flash Hiders/Battle Tycoon and Super Chinese Fighter had a focus on single player progression modes.
Far East of Eden Kabuki (PCE), Fighter's History Mizoguchi, Osu! Karatebu had extensive story modes but it's useless if can't read runes.
BlazBlue and Guilty Gear always had really well made single player content I could spent hours talking about them.
The way I see it single player is more like a diversion for when you get tired of all the "serious" (lol) fighting and want to take a break. The CPU never gets tired or rejects a fight, doesn't matter if it's 4 AM and you're drunk or if it's been 30 years since the game release.

>>5804619
>And shmups have safe spots
SOME shmups in SOME areas have safe spots.

>>5804647
The ones that matter on console does. Arcade trash shouldn't even reply.

>>5804686

>>5804692
Bait is leftist nuspeak for telling the truth.

>>5804619
>that's just the nature of figuring out how to beat 1 player games.

Yes but it's worse with fighters because 1 player isn't the focus the way it is with other genres. So even though they can make it hard by reading inputs, ignoring charge times and giving bosses infinites, it doesn't make it interesting or build good skills for the main game so most don't really care about it. It's different with single player focused games where that's all there is.

>>5804708
Not him but are you seriously trying to imply that console shmups are better and more respected than arcade?

>>5804709
I have yet to see a single boss do a legit infinite. Most I've seen was probably around 70%

>>5804708
I share your hatred of libcucks, but console shmups are not better anon.

>>5804713
Respected by whom, the imaginary friends in your head? There's never been a community in the west and the mere mention of arcade games is enough to make every vagina in the radius of 3000 miles immediately dry.

>>5804713
See >>>>5804604
You don't really care about games, you want to be part of a group identity.

>>5804739
I don't associate with any of those groups and I'm not a huge fan of shmups. But I'm familiar enough to know you're making a generally riddiculous claim.

>>5804753
Of course now you hide behind anonymity. Just like when I challenge you to a fightcade you mysteriously go silent.

>>5800795
kof is fucking garbage why are you even proposing something so dumb holy shit

>>5804814
>uuuuuuuuhhhhrr but I dun like dat game :)))
could you miss the point any harder

>>5804801
I mean I'm not a fan of shmups but even I can tell that saying consoles are more enamoured than arcade smells like BS. Am I actually off on that? K honestly don't know or care.

And yeah I have a toaster and don't use fightcade so sorry. I never played fighters on PC much. I'm on XBL I guess but that probably doesn't count for you.

>>5804716
Yeah true infinites might be rare but when the AI can 50/50 into two 70% combos it almost might as well be.

>>5804825
>wojak posting
don't let the door hit you on the way out

>>5804876
>oh shit I got btfo, how do I reply?
>I-I know! I'll redirect the attention to wojak!
pathetic.

>>5804832
Let me explain why that's wrong, what you're saying only applies to 5th gen, after that the console ports are perfectly identical to the arcade minus loading times and some missing graphical effects like background layers.
Inb4 the psx version of dodonpachi doesn't give you +1 hit when you collect the bee.

>>5804879
>console ports
>ports

>>5804848
So concurrently 1cc'ing is a casual fruitless endeavor for casuals but they also mind read and do infinite combos that are impossibly hard to clear. So which is it? They can't both be right.
I'm garbage at tourneys but I never had trouble beating Order Sol, Goodman, General or Omega Rugal. What you don't seem to realize is that the Boss is an informal Time Over informing the player that they've played too long for one credit and it's time to step away from the goddamn machine.

>>5804878
you have issues

>>5804889
you have a small wiener

>>5804891
>projecting
kek, you lost. gg m8, was fun i guess.

>>5804882
Strikers 1945 on PSX, a severely underpowered console, is arcade perfect minus loading times.
Gunbird 2 on Dreamcast is arcade perfect with extras.

The only thing preventing these games on PSX from being perfect is Tate (90º rotated screen) mode.

>>5804893
meant for >>5804889

>>5804894
A PSX could have easily handled an arcade perfect Ketsui port, they only didn't do it for marketing reasons.

>>5804894
That's not the issue you literal mouthbreathing retard, they're still ports of arcade games. When people disparage console shmups relative to arcade shmups, they're talking about made-for-console shmups, not fucking arcade ports. Holy hell, do you have even 1 working neuron in that tiny brain of yours? Jesus FUCKING christ.

>>5804904
Because they are not designed to steal your quarters. So your point is that console exclusives are better balanced.

>>5804907
Still a retarded thing to say, but it's an upgrade from what you were just posting so I'll let it pass.

>>5804910
Glad we both agree arcade shooters are inferior trash.

>>5804914
We most certainly do not agree, you're just a scrub.

>>5804910
Glad we both agreed arcade shooters are inferior trash to console exclusives.

>>5804907
Showing the player with extra lives/resources all the time isn't good balance, it's sloppy balance and shows that the developers had no understanding of what difficulty they wanted.

>>5804917
I bet the women really wet after your chad 2All in Daioujou.

>>5804924

>>5804923
I agree to that, Console exclusives are designed for successful sexually fulfilled Chads with booming social lives while Arcade cancer is made for Twitch trannies who spend 16 hours a day practicing for a world record no one gives a shit about.

>>5804934
Too bad the people who play them end up being soi collector dads

>>5804938
Only idiots and money launders collect PCBs. Now back to sitting in a dark room practicing your score route while your muscles are atrophying from lack of vitamin D.

>>5804948
>Only idiots and money launders collect
Could have stopped there. And that just about covers all console shmup "players"

>>5804887
>So concurrently 1cc'ing is a casual fruitless endeavor for casuals but they also mind read and do infinite combos that are impossibly hard to clear. So which is it?

It's both. If you were actually trying to understand instead of just shitposting defensively you'd understand that. Fighters are based around balance, strategy and skill. It's an inherently multiplayer genre and so the inevitable focus of anyone who is really into them is to test that strategy and skill out on other players. Not for bragging rights or to be an "FFC elitist" or any other crap like that, but because by far that's where the games are most fun.

But of course there's not always other people around to play with and sometimes you want to just practice so a single player mode exists. And since computers can't really think, to make it a challenge they let it cheat and make bosses that are crazy powerful compared to the player characters.

Likewise since they don't play fair, the only way to beat them is to also not play fair. That's not to say it's easy per se, but is is boringnand shallow compared to the kinds of strategies you need to develop to excel at multiplayer matches. So yes, I'm sorry if this upsets you, but someone who puts their primary efforts in a fighting game towards cheesing the AI rather than getting good at multiplayer will always be seen by most players as a casual shitter. Sorry not sorry :/

>>5804896
keep refreshin' soiboi

>>5804961
>keep refreshin' soiboi

Console Chads vs the emaciated Arcade soibitch.

>>5804968
:)

>>5804971
The butthurt is palpable.

>>5804969
meanwhile, in the REAL world...

>>5804976
your time in life is limited, go have a glass of water, rest up, and come back when you're feeling competent anon.

>>5804958
>Sorry not sorry
OOF dat passive aggression.
But ultimately I agree with, no one gives a shit how many games you've beaten. All that matters is how much pussy you've laid and in that category tourneytrannies have it beaten by casual chads.

>>5804982
This poster speaks the truth. We all should fuck off from imaginary support groups on 4chan and play more games. We both agree Fighters are a social genre, go have fun playing with real life friends, stop playing Porto Riccan kids with auto macros on Fightcade.

>>5804979
Dilate

>>5804994
>tfw none of your real life friends stand a slither of a chance in any fighting game against you

>>5804998
Why is a gay-elf tranny telling someone else to dilate???

>>5805004
this

>>5805006
I'm stating the truth that only an effeminate tranny would waste a 1000 hours on a videogame. Does that hurt your feelings?

>>5784265
Except that was Nintendo with SNES though.

>>5805015
Oh I see, you were talking about yourself. Had me going for a second!

>>5805016
baste.

>>5805017
Chads wouldn't hold videogame world records since they already have real life accomplishments to derive personal fulfillment from. Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>5805024
Cope.

>>5805015
not him but i have over 1000 hrs logged on a certain fighting game on fightcade that ive won money in. im stating the universal truth that you're feelings are actually hurt and you're projecting on 4chan because you're a lonely, lonely person. i suggest you contact a therapist and try to setup an appointment, but hey; its your life man.

>>5805015
How is he wasting them though? There's nothing else to do.

>>5804952
MAME is inaccurate and thus illegitimate

>>5805026
I see you're a r/AsianMasculinity poster. No 1ccs will make you grow taller.

>>5805040
You are really reaching for anything at this point, aren't you?

>>5805040
>redd*t
man just leave. this place isn't for you, go vote on shit faggot

>>5805030
Not to be nihilistic but everything is a waste, you and everyone who knew you will be forgotten 3 generations after death. Do whatever you want just make sure you keto diet, get sun exposure and lift weights.

>>5805045
Funnily enough I'm only aware of the asian masculinity stereotype because of 4chan. For someone who hates leddit you sure think about them a lot.

>>5805054
>i dont have an arguement, yes i use redd*t
*yawn
come back later when your brain cells are working kiddo.

>>5805027
Unironically cool. That money you've made could have been earned in a fraction of that time if you held a minimum wage job though.

>>5805058
Hello pot calling the kettle. Who started the name calling again? I'm sorry my insults were more damaging that yours.

>>5805059
retired at 32, try again next time.

>>5805065
Only Asian Masculinity would think a videogame makes them more masculine.

>>5805076
Only trannies like gay elf.

>>5805081
I don't hate tourneyfags, I'm only rightfully calling you out because you started with the insults yourself. It's not very fun when we're on the receiving end of trolling, right?

>>5805085
???? I don't know who hurt your feelings but it wasn't me, I don't even play fighting games.

ITT: trannies

>>5805087
If that wasn't you then ignore my insults.
Look it's not that hard, just sleep properly, cut down on carbs and lift weights 4 times a week.
4chan has this clinically insane definition of manliness where you need a perfectly chiselled team and be over 6 tall to be a real man. This only hurts weak men while further elevating chads.

>>5805096
>*perfectly chiselle chin
>*over 6 feet tall
I"m a fucking retard.

>>5805096
LET'S HURT THE WEAK WHILE HELPING THE STRONG WHO DON'T NEED
This isn't even right wing mentality, a right winger would say the weak can become strong through diligence and hard work.

>>5805034
Coping collector tranny

>>5804986
Of course you latch onto the flippant bit at the end. You shouldn't be caring what people you don't give a fuck about might think about how you like games. That should be the take away and why this thread is such a catastrophe.

>>5805030
You're supposed to have a family and have a normal life outside of games

>>5784235
If you think of them as something like Punch-Out!! it can be fun.

>>5805096
man, and i thought i was a brainlet

>>5804901
arika tried to port ketsui on ps2 but they had issues with part where the background is going backwards on stage 5. no way this game could run on a ps1.

>>5806908
Pretty sure that was sarcasm anon.

>>5784235
1cc's themselves don't matter at all.
t. have dozens of htem

>>5805378
No one ever holding a 1ALL on DOJ has one.

>>5805360
Not much else to discuss anyway, I've pretty much dominated the narrative. Remember, Chads always laugh last.

>>5808361
What's your dominant narrative been? Lol

>>5805016
>nintendo
>story

arcade gaming died exactly when Sony entered on the consoles market

>>5808832
That's a pretty retarded statement.

>>5809115
Lol

>>5805378
I know this was made as a joke, but focusing only on games is a great way to ruin both your life abd games as well.