/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Pretty much waiting for a final release
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[8-3] Assets from id's mobile games exported
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101479-sprites-and-textures-extracted-from-id-mobile-games-now-with-orcs-elves-2-and-doom2-rpg-brew-resources/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2013695

[8-3] Golden Souls 3 demo released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=65056
https://youtu.be/QfJAGY--giA

[7-31]After the Fall - DBP14 RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107872-dbp14-after-the-fall/

[7-31] Daggerfall Unity public alpha release
https://www.dfworkshop.net/projects/daggerfall-unity/live-builds/

[7-27] AMC TC v3.5 released, receives a massive art overhaul.
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc

[7-26] Doom 1, 2 (Including Master Levels), & 3 now available on Nintendo Switch, Playstation 4, & Xbox One.
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/1154788818970714112

[7-21] Mapping contest with $250 prize: make a Prey 1996-themed map within one of numerous games
http://talonbrave.info/?p=1801

[7-20] Quake SM199 - five maps made by teams of two mappers
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61754

[7-19] Tim Willits leaves id Software, after being at the company for 24 years
https://twitter.com/TimWillits/status/1151870022421241857

[7-18] Aleph One may be getting better mouse support
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20190331

[7-17] Copper Quake updates to 1.05
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[7-17] Mapwinch RC1 released - 30 mappers randomly paired with each other to make 15 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107249-come-eat-the-mapwich-a-collaborative-community-project-rc1-available/

=== PREVIOUS ===

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== PROTIP ==

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>>5786498
any Doom mods themed around survival? As in resource gathering and ammo conservation.

>>5786507
Shut up and bleed, and Hideous Destructor

Any texture artists in these parts?

I'm looking to have a few custom wall textures in a level, they wouldn't be repeating patterns but rather details to expand the "story" of the level such as info on computer terminals or a facade on a temple.

Fistful of Doom and High Noon Drifter is a match made in fucking heaven
Fistful's really short though
Are there any other good western mapsets?

>>5786614
No

>>5786614
There were one or two in development shortly after HND came out but who knows what came of them.

How many sideways walking enemies are there in the old shooters?

>>5786625
I think Descent had strafing enemies but they weren't exactly walking.

to any mapper here

if you're one of those subhumans that like putting arch-viles behind a wall of monsters, I hope your whole family get tied and dragged behind a truck until each are two rocket launchers short of being a revenant

Fuck the giant OP file.

What are some highly recommended WADs for use with Complex doom?

>>5786642
arch-viles were a mistake
most doom ii monsters were actually
i guess hell knights are good, and revenants aren't too bad

>>5786645
>arch-viles were a mistake
Those uncanny fellows do exactly what they're supposed to do, it's bad mappers who use them in shit ways.

>>5786645
I hate revenants more than any other monster, even archviles. Archviles might resurrect other monsters and flame you, but once you hide behind cover, you don't have to worry about a stray tracer rocket hitting you from behind. And they don't have those annoying fucking sounds like revenants do.

>>5785707
Doom 2's maps are a mixed bag, it has some weak maps and most of them are around the middle. There's enough good and decent maps though that it's worth playing still.
Give Doom 2 The Way Id Did a try if you want a somewhat more competent take on Doom 2.

>>5785536
Because they don't own the rights to the Sunstorm expansions, also the port isn't actually that great in itself.

>>5786498
>Doom gets a reboot in the form of Nudoom and the soon to be released Doom:Eternal
Few people scream like angry chimps
>SS1 gets that treatment as well, along with a switch from Unity to Unreal Engine
AAAAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ASSBLEED!
WTF!?

>>5786675
>nobody

where to find proper Quake1 pak files ? for the music and expansion paks

>>5785707
>Why do people say Doom II has bad levels?
Dumb zoomers have a bad taste and play without pistolstart.

I know what to do
I know what it takes...

>>5786686
>removing doomguy's face
Why?

>GZDoom keeps all my settings for Reelism
>Except Autoaim: Off
How fucking hard is it to save every setting holy shit

>>5786675
SS1 isn't a reboot, it's a remake, and they've taken a hatchet to the story, the one thing the game really had going for it.

>>5786691
It's DRLA, none of the characters are straight up Doomguy.

>>5786684

>>5786709
oh ya thanks

>>5786707
>hatchet to the story
where have you heard that?

>>5786716
From the backer stuff (yeah, I was that stupid) and from having played the demo they posted, the same demo they held up during their existential crisis as the true faithful representation of SS1 which they strayed away from and are going back to as their path of now and forever.

A version of Jupiter Hell EA (which is what happened to Doom Roguelike after it got DMCAd by Bethesda) got leaked to pretty much all major warez sites.

>>5786736
Jupiter Hell? More like development hell.

>>5786736
Uh-huh. Not like the crowdfunding builds have been floating around forever or anything.

>>5786685
It does have a couple of bad levels, even though I think there's more than enough good levels to redeem it.

>>5786691
Each class has its own HUDface I think.

>>5786645

>>5786727
I think they did more re-writes than outright removal of of story points. Also, most of the sounds are fitting at the very least. Oh, and the graphics on the enemies are good, though medical deck definitely looks wet in too many places.

>>5786771
So a crowdfunded project burned a lot of their budget on a bunch of shitty nonsense. What a surprise.

>>5786775
That's the risk with investing.

>>5786771
It is mostly rewrites, yeah, but they omit a lot of the original plot for something that just seems worse.

Even at the start of what they showed, Rebecca isn't specifically trying to contact the Hacker, she's just trying to contact anybody, and from that they omit her knowing what the Hacker did and the deal she offers him.

>>5786775
>Sounds that fit
>shitty nonsense
Though I agree on the part about Medical deck

Marathon is so goddamn janky.

>>5786736
Plays fine but the surroundings are super meh. Gave up after getting to Io or whatever, it's one generic scifi base after another with few caves mixed in.

>>5786798
[carpenter brut intensifies]

>>5786798
Unlike most of Medical deck, I don't have as many gripes with their take on reasearch level.Not everything has to be a 1:1 cookiecutter copy.

>>5786798
I dunno why adding stairs to the slope pleases me so much. Little heavy handed on the colored lighting, though.

>>5786831
Details like that make the station more lived in or lived in till recently / more for use by human beings.

So long that they're not overdone, that is.

>>5786798
But the future IS neon, anon.

So is Doom 64 EX any good?

>>5786645
Strongly disagree. They just need to be used properly.

How would you like some...
BENT PIXELS

>>5786927
>that hand
THANKS DOC

There's this switch in Doom E3M7 (it's at 6:07 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eTGH7SdGNo)) [Embed] that I always used to miss but you can run across the area it makes a bridge for if you get the position EXACTLY right and for years I thought that was just how you complete the level. I'm not sure if many other people even know this.

Finished Doom E4 Thy Flesh Consumed on Ultra-Violence. This was actually way better than E2 or E3, and I like E3.

>>5786927
>John has seen that FOV slider
>And then, John was a Zombie

>>5786804
Yeah I tried it for like 10 minutes and bailed. Shit's not "Doom for the Mac" at all it's just retro shit.

>>5786927
>>5786935
>>5786930
>magic hand weapon has a COD-style recoil... That takes half a minute to return to normal after shooting 3 times.

>>5786937
So you're in the wrong thread. Got it.

>brand new game "based on 90s shooters like Hexen and Doom!"
>requires 2019-tier dedicated graphics cards
why the fuck do developers do this

bros. i NEED a crash gf

>>5786942
This shit chugs on 1080ti in simple scenes.
This is the power of UNITY.

>>5786952
I was thinking of Amid Evil actually but yeah I'm getting tired of this shit. There's a ton of "games like Doom!" like this.

Not an fps (mostly why I'm reluctant) but is Heretic 2 worth playing? Corvus is pretty based as far as elves go and I kinda wanna know what happened to him without having to wikiscum.

>>5786942
>>5786952
They just don't give a shit, the faux retro thing is just an excuse to put out something that looks like ass and try to capitalize on nostalgia for something that never really existed.

Proteus is a really fucking egregious one right now, nothing ever looked that way, especially not in the fucking 90s.

>>5786961
I tried it out for like 2 hours. It's genuinely fun so I'm gonna say yes. It's very, very easy but it was kind of fun and looks really good for its time.

>>5786936
I'm on level 6. I'm honestly thinking of just stopping and reading the terminals on a website.

>>5786961
It's a strange game but it's worth a playthrough just to see how it differs from Heretic.

It's also the one where Corvus gets named, he didn't have that in the original.

>>5786971
Last time I asked about that game here someone said I should just play Marathon 2 on Xbox 360 (where it apparently runs at 60fps instead of 30fps on the PC) instead. Apparently as a console game it's actually really fun. But yeah I bailed on Marathon 1 around the third level.

>>5786965
I don't mind many of these recent indie shooters, but Prodeus is easily the worst of them all. Don't use shitty textures and models if you're also going to mix it with modern graphical effects and lighting; it makes it all look that much more jarring. Same with Doom, dynamic lights look terrible in GZDoom.

>>5786736
It pains me to say it: as of now you are better off playing DoomRL

Its a fucking early access game, wait until it gets some more fucking time in the oven unless you really want to help fund the development

>>5786974
That would just make it worse. The low framerate is the least of my problems. Weird mouse acceleration and the fact that I can't look properly up and down annoy me even more. Going for analog stick aiming will not improve this.
Marathon 1 also has some pretty crazy difficuly spikes like the five compilers just spawning in on your ass in the second level or the room that you need to grenade jump out of in the third.

>>5786961
It's good for 1 playthrough.
Longstory short: D'Sparil cursed him to walk outerworlds for eternity, (So basically he was like Doomguy/Doomslayer, and all the PWADS are canon) after countless dimensions/slain enemies his Tome of Power starts talking in female voice. Apparently there's fake tomes and real ones. Real ones have Guardians in it, and he got a real one from D'Sparil, then awakened it by feeding it energy.
Guardian of his tome opens a portal back home.
Corvus returns home, but shit's fucked, and everyone has a plague that corrupts their minds and makes them go mad. The Seraph that was supposed to keep things in check performed a ritual of Ascension to Godhood, but he had to use 7 tomes of power for that. Since you took a real one, he used 1 fake one (that he thought was real).
Corvus fights through numerous places, gets infected, tries to find a cure, but finds none, confronts Seraph. Has to complete the ritual with his real tome.
Main badguy gets out of jail free, gets immortality and godhood as a "punishment". Leaves Corvus to deal with the aftermath of all the shit he caused.
Literally worst ending in a videogame I've seen. Even worse than ME3 IMO.


>>5786972
He was named in the manuals IIRC. In old games 98% of the plot and names were contained in the manuals only, never to be seen in the game itself.

>>5786936
>>5786804
>>5786974
Marathon 1 is a generic Doomclone of the time, that just like other Doomclones (sans Heretic) failed to understand what made Doom great - a coherent level design with landmarks and memorable places/encounters.
Marathon 1 has shit level design with clashing textures, samey corridors and rooms, and story that is pretty much completely disconnected from the gameplay and would've had exactly same value if being told in a manual.

>>5786936
>>5786804
>>5786974
>>5786997
Marathon 2 improves the level design a bit, but not much. Some color choices for textures are terrible.
Marathon 3 is something approaching Doom 1 in terms of leveldesign quality.
It has some additional "cool" tricks like gravity and non-euclidean space via lineportals, but coupled with shitty leveldesign those work more to the games detriment than otherwise.

>>5786975
I guess I just find how most of them are made, marketed and sold to be pretty fucking insulting.

Most of them have a library list of games they're supposed to hearken back to as a selling point, usually without making the slightest bit of effort to lean from the positive aspects of those games.

As for Proteus, they use those terrible textures and models, and then pile on effects to make them look more pixelated and shit, because that's what "retro" looks like, instead of working under similar restrictions to old games to promote creativity.

>>5786997
>He was named in the manuals IIRC. In old games 98% of the plot and names were contained in the manuals only, never to be seen in the game itself.
As it so happens, I've got my copy of Heretic and it's manual sat on my desk, no mention of the name Corvus, it's all in a perspective talking about you as the player character.

Can I not play Quake 1.5 on Quakespasm?

is the quake 1 gog easy to setup for online coop

>>5787023
No. Any Quake mod that uses HD textures in any capacity will require Darkplaces. Also look for the 2017 build of Darkplaces, not the 2014 one that looks like it's the most recent build on their website. You'll have to search around a bit in other locations but there's a more recent one out there and there are actually a few mods that require the 2017 one.

>>5787028
Shit's still getting updates, m'dude.
https://github.com/xonotic/darkplaces

>>5787028
>Any Quake mod that uses HD textures in any capacity will require Darkplaces.
"no"

Some kind of loading bay area with a control room on the right looking over it. I'll probably put an Archvile in there.

>>5787061
That center area with the stairs would be a good place to fight one, particularly if you're being chased by a couple of pinkies during.

>>5787061
for me that's where the arch-vile shines the most. He's a fast monster whose attack is properly telegraphed but you never know where he is attacking from. Those tight spaces with plenty room for the player and it to run and hide invokes that feeling of a monster in a slasher movie chasing its victim. It's great

Why the fuck does neither GZDoom nor Zandronum save whether you want autoaim off? They save EVERY other option, just not that one.

Am I not autistic enough for Sunder or is it just shitty?

>>5787085
>>5787089
What I was thinking was putting him in this separate room that's overlooking the center area. You could still shoot him if you want or juke him out until you finally gain access to the area he's in. I'll probably put a bunch of pinkies in there like one of you said to chase the player around.

>>5787101
I'm the pinky forgot the image.

>>5787098
slaughter gameplay is for a very specific kind of player
I'd suggest you load an overpowered mod and admire the pretty scenery

that cyan map is just unreal

>>5787097
It saves it for me.

>>5787103
That's also a good idea.
Maybe put a chaingunner in another window if you REALLY wanna be a dick.

>>5787097
Also I found an autoaim slider in the Player Settings menu, but it fucking reverts every time I back out of it

>>5787106
bery helbful

>>5787108
Good idea

>>5787109
What else do you want me to tell you? Yeah, it works on my machine, send in a bug report if you have a problem I guess, or try updating.

>>5787108
or the arch-ville behind the chaingunner in a manner it's out of reach and keeps respawning the chaingunner

>>5787118
Actually I got it to work on Zandronum but not GZDoom
So half-victory I guess

>>5786645
you should try heretic because the most non boss enemies put me to fucking sleep and beg for an hitscanner to show up

>>5787097
put it in your autoexec.cfg just to be safe

>>5787123
You could do that, but mind that's likely to piss a lot of people off (not necessarily bad, mind). This was a mapping trope which was done occasionally in the 90s, but then people just stopped doing it.

I think a more fresh take on it would be if it were a couple of shotgunners up on some pillar, and there's a hidden vile in the core of the pillar that keeps rezzing them. Then the only way to get 100% kills is to reach a certain point which will activate a crusher in there and turn the vile into paste.
They're more fragile, and likely to hit each other, also not maintaining constant full-auto fire, but the vile makes sure they stays a threat until you say so.

>>5786304
so you admit hl is inferior to system shock?
ok

>>5786804
Yep its pretty bad. Besides what everyone else has mentioned, the mouse controls are really fucking weird. It's hard to describe exactly what is so wrong with the way the mouse feels.

At least marathon is better than movie life and casual strike.

>>5787228
Get a lobotomy.

>>5786927
What game is this?
Those hand textures actually look significantly lower-res than Quake's weapon textures.
>>5786961
If you do play it, the music doesnt work right on modern OS's, so use a program called _inmm238 to patch Quake2.dll.

>>5787109
Edit your fuggin ini file

rogged loncher :DDDD

>>5787278
guad damge :::D

I need some crossover fanart
anything goes

SUBER SHODGUN XDDD

>>5787267
Exodemon. Played it a little and it's kinda boring.

anyone want to play blood co-op? using nBlood. is there a place to go to play etc?

>>5786787
An investment is (or at least should be) an informed decision that will make you more money in the future.
Crowdfunding is when you blindly throw money into the air and pray to [DEITY] that you didn't just pay for someone's cocaine habit.

>>5787283
Sober Shot-kun
3====>

>>5787334
Your dividend from a kickstarter product are finished product+backer rewards.

>>5786642
>he doesn't put his archviles in a cage surrounded by mancubi in an open field with no cover

How do I git gud at Quake 3?

>>5787217
>You could do that, but mind that's likely to piss a lot of people off
of course it will, I wish I could strangle all the mappers that did that through the internet

I remember playing a map a long time ago where it's kind of a rendition of omaha beach, with hitscanner and rocket launchers from across the fucking realm blasting you so you had to keep going from cover to cover. It was basically running on nukage from the start of the map till the end, except typing idbeholdr wouldn't help me

>>5787281
>Doomguy has zero interest in Vanilla sexually
>stays so Cream has a proper father figure
Man, Doomguy would kick the shit out of Eggman.

>>5787334
So be careful about who you fund.

>>5787369
Fight the bots on nightmare. That last guy Xareo is a bastard

>>5787380
OG Doom is already a Troid.
>Level is a place.
>But you only have access to ~10-20% of the place.
>Need to explore to find a thing that gives you access to more parts of the place
>have to revisit areas you've been sometimes because new things can be accessed in old areas as you progress
>eventually unlock whole place to explore

A good Doom level and Metroidvania map are essentially the same in structure, but Doom level is much more condensed, and keys/switches to open new areas do not give you new abilities.

An interesting take on that would be a Shooter that took the approach literally and substituted key/switch hunting with actual metroid-like abilities (that player has to find anew in each level)

>>5787023
Bloodshot said he was working on it but he's also working on Wrath and that Doom Slayer Quake mod

>>5787408
>An interesting take on that would be a Shooter that took the approach literally and substituted key/switch hunting with actual metroid-like abilities (that player has to find anew in each level)

I've thought about this. A good way to do this as a gameplay mod would simply be to make keys give players interesting abilities. Like the red skull gives hurtfloor immunity and the blue key gives a permanent blue armor effect for the rest of the level

>>5787345
Rarely works out that way.

>>5787369
Watch the superior show.

>>5787380
>>stays so Cream has a proper father figure
That is so needlessly sappy, I like it.

>>5787408
Supposedly Wrath is like that

How does Quakespasm run on a CPU?

will aleph one ever manage to run at 60 fps?

>>5787420
To make it actually work, would need to have maps designed around it.

>>5787453
I don't understand your question. How does it run on a central processing unit? How does it run on a computer?

It runs fine on my laptop.

Marathon is a good game

>>5787408
>>5787420
Isn't that what Powerslave / Exhumed was? Haven't played it myself but from what I've seen it's kinda exactly like that.

>>5787408
Shut the fuck up. You stupid goddamn idiot. That is the most fucking basic form of progression in a video game possible. What is with these people thinking Metroidvania means "you have to do something somewhere to unlock another area". Wikipedia literally says fucking Dark Souls is Metroidvania-inspired. A Metroidvania is an action-adventure game in which you explore a non-linear, interconnected world and gain new abilities which can be used to reach new areas in old places.

Marathon is better than crap life.

>>5787476
strong disagree.

>>5786501
So here’s a map I made, I think it's pretty fun and you might like it too. I call it “Lumber Lordosis”, It's map inspired by Blood and back problems. You should play it with a gameplay mod that improves Doom’s jumping controls, such as high noon drifter or z movement.

The map has custom music and textures (from Blood), its made in UDMF so run it in gzdoom or zandronum.

https://archive.org/details/lumberlordosis

>>5787505
It has all the components of a good game.

>>5787481
Exhumed hasa this, but the metroid-like ability unlocks are "get this thing, to access place in another level", while I'm talking about the progression within a level itself.


>>5787492
chill the fuck up, retard.
>That is the most fucking basic form of progression in a video game possible
Except it's not. Most games use completely different style of progression.

In shooters:
Pre-doom shooters - level a maze, find an exit, or kill x things to unlock exit
True Oldschool shooters (Doom, Duke, Blood, Quake etc) - level is a place, but parts are locked, unlock them and exit (aka Metroid style progression)
Modern (linear) shooters - level is a sequence of setpieces/scenes
OpenWorld-post-Ubishit-homogenization shooters - no levels, its a fuckhuge open landscape full of fucking nothing with scatered blips of "things to do", but those things are same copypasted shit over and over again.
Pseudo-Oldschool-SmashTV - level is a sequence of arenas you get locked into until you kill all monsters (SS, Painkiller, nuDoom), rarely combined with some other form.

>>5787525
Except levels.
And guns.
And Enemies.
And anything fun.

>>5787537
>but parts are locked, unlock them and exit (aka Metroid style progression)
Metroid doesn't progress through keys, it progresses through moves and resources.

>>5787506
I really dont understand the point of making an entire actually solid level and then just ending it with some Terry nonsense.

>>5787550
i know that. The progression is similar otherwise, except for that.

>>5787568
you fell for the pain elemental trap, didn't you?

>>5787573
I just walked into a normal-looking teleporter and was transported to this.

half life and counter strike killed old school fps.

>>5787576
Welkommen in der BONEN ZONEN

>>5787576
working as intended! go through the hedge maze in front of you and enter the lordosis room, a exciting place where wonderful things happen.

>>5787576
I can't believe it's 2019 and people are still making shit like this. Thanks for the heads up.

>>5787578
*saved a stale genre

>>5787585
you do realize the rest of the map is normal right? I just threw some goofy shit together for the ending.

>>5787589
But there were still monsters alive and locked key doors. It didnt feel like a goofy ending as much as a terry trap (considering the only way out is death).

>>5787586
kys casual.

>>5787591
fair enough. My intention wasn't to make a dickish terry trap, I just wanted to make something surreal and weird. The level does end once you die though, since there is no way to end level on crush, I had to scroll a barrel across an end game line, which may not trip until you've been dead for a few seconds.

I hope you enjoyed the rest of the level at least.

Recommend me some good megawads/packs I've already played just about everything in pic related

>>5787610
Evilternity.

>>5787585
>>5787576
>>5787591
>>5787506
I just updated the archive to include a version without the lordosis room, It just ends the map once you reach the teleporter. The files called "Lumber Lordosis No Goofs".

>>5787616
Cool. Like I said, solid map. Good use of ZDoom 3D stuff. Only real annoyance was unmarked key doors. Andt the filesize is way too big. Theres no need to include mods or GZDoom. Just have a text file explaining what engine is required and what mods are recommended. I played it vanilla personally.

any real reason to use crispydoom over gzdoom?

>>5787610
moonblood, 300 mins of /vr/, the rebirth

>>5787640
Better optimized.

>>5787634
I'll keep that stuff in mind, thanks for playing through my map man.

hl and cs killed fps games.

>>5787640
Keeping the experience close to vanilla without having to worry about disabling tons of unnecessary features that creeped their way into GZDoom.

>>5787471
As in no dedicated GPU

>>5787660
good

>want to download a HL mod
>it's an .exe installer
Almost all HL mods have this and I don't get why.
Is it because HL was a normalfag game back in the day and so modders made easy installers for people?
It's easy as shit to just unpack a folder, move it into the HL directory and then starting it either through the game menu in the WON version or from steam in the steam version.

>>5787685
kys.

>>5787689
Kind of was the same for Unreal/UT too.

>>5787678
Quakespasm works fine on my integrated graphics card. But you may want to look into Mark V if you don't even have that, because it has a software renderer.

>>5787689
watcha playin
They Hunger?
you should play they hunger.

>>5787708
who decided it was a good idea to include that headcrab sound

>>5787708
I already played through all three, it was pretty good though it really jumped the shark at 3, with the mecha scientist and helicopter sheriff bossfight, I always ran out of health and ammo because you don't ever restock on ammo and medkit charges again.
I still don't understand how the zombies came about, was it a virus, was it voodoo, was it the frankenstein experiments?
I was the same guy that talked about Cry of Fear, managed to force myself through my ammo drought and finished the game with the worst ending, gotta try Afraid of Monsters sometime.

>>5787689
An .exe was how they've done it for as far as I remember.

>>5787689
Some GoldSrc mods come in zips, others are exes. Never figured out why. Maybe it's how the directories are? Not too knowledgeable on the subject.

hl ruined gaming. stop playing shitty mods.

I have to be honest I'm playing Quake for the first time right now and it fucking sucks

Best key bindings for complex doom? There's a lot of shit there.

>>5787762
fuck off csbaby.

>>5787752
I think something changed with the SteamPipe update, but still.
How HL mods work is that there's a base directory for a mod that is loaded, and all missing files are loaded from the basic "valve" folder, the HL folder.
That's how the HD pack works, it's a mod that just contains new models and animations, and everything else is taken from the stock HL folder.
All the .exe installer does is move a folder into your HL directory and put an uninstall pointer into your registry so that you can uninstall the mod through your control panel, it does nothing special you couldn't do yourself by dragging and dropping or pressing the delete key on your keyboard.

>>5787767
What the fuck does CS have to do with Quake's single player? The level design is so fucking shit it's unbelievable.

>>5787769
hltranny

>>5787770
Well now you're just refusing to accept criticism. But if you must now, I do think Half-Life is a better game than Quake.

How could you tell?

>>5787775
>that ponytail
Amazing image, fukken saved.

>>5787703
Awesome, thanks anon

I'm trying to get DoomRPG+DoomRLA to run on my system. I'm using GZDoom 2.1.1, and it's not giving me a chance. I get this error during the loading process.
Execution could not continue.

Unable to load shader shieldwarp:
Init Shader 'shieldwarp':
Fragment shader:
Fragment shader failed to compile with the following errors:
ERROR: 0:410: error(#133) Reserved word: input
ERROR: 0:410: error(#132) Syntax error: "input" parse error
ERROR: error(#273) 2 compilation errors. No code generated


Linking:
Fragment shader(s) were not successfully compiled before glLinkProgram() was called. Link failed.

I'm using an AMD R9 390. I hope the graphics card isn't the issue.

After HUH we should make an HL mapping project
We shall call it "Refute this"

>>5787806
Why indulge him?
How long did HUH even last? HL is my favourite game but I don't know shit about mapping for it.

>>5787809
after we voted for two extensions it lasted a month total, it should come out by the end of next week assuming things don't go pear shaped

no fucking clue how easy WorldCraf is compared to TrenchBroom, I assume is not as user friendly but I dunno

>>5787815
>WorldCraft
Thank you for your service, sir veteran, but these days you use Hammer or J.A.C.K. for GoldSrc mapping.

>>5787768
Steampipe broke so much fucking shit.

>>5787283

>>5787775
Half Life is a wannabe Marathon

Pretty sad hlcucks and csbabies can't defend their games.

>>5787842
Based. Hlfags will deny this.

>>5787842
this statement is probably more true than you know

Marathon > hl.

>>5787835
you should add an archie about to end his blast pose

Hlfags still deny that their game ripped off marathon.

>>5787809
GoldSrc is just a really modified version of the Quake engine, hell, I'm pretty sure you could even load early versions of HL onto Quake. I've never done HL mapping, but it could be a nice learning experience.
Picking a game to map for almost seems harder than mapping itself. This general has already done Doom and Quake, so it seems like the next logical step would be for the next id game, Quake II, but barely anyone likes it, and Quake III is multiplayer only.
Or, you could just sidestep and go back to the Doom engine for Heretic/Hexen, but I don't know if /vr/ projects have already been done for them or not.
Strife's main draw is the story and NPC interaction, but I don't think anyone here has the time or resources to make a fleshed out story or do voice acting.
We could hop over to Build games but I've heard that their editors are about as old as the games themselves.
Some anons were suggesting Thief, but that's a stealth game, and I don't know if its ever really been discussed here.
choices, choices

>>5787889
Strife is a nightmare to make content for because everything is so fucking hardcoded and peculiar.
Like there's a few dozen peasant NPCs of various colors, and what ID they are will affect just which NPC they actually are on each map slot, likewise for acolytes.

>>5787889
>it seems like the next logical step would be for the next id game, Quake II, but barely anyone likes it, and Quake III is multiplayer only.
i can't map for quake 3 because i'd spend the entire allotted time masturbating to hunter

>>5787889
I wish there were more/more popular mods for HL and HL2 that played with the movement somehow. That and tweaked the weapons' damage output values, make some significantly higher. The shooting would prolly be more fun that way IMO.

>>5787889
>Build
We'd get maybe two submissions at most.

>>5787889
>Or, you could just sidestep and go back to the Doom engine for Heretic/Hexen, but I don't know if /vr/ projects have already been done for them or not.
I want this. A /vr/ Heretic project would be fun as fuck.

please not goldsource threads. hl is not retro and it's a shitty game.>>5787880
>>5787860
>>5787842

>>5787931
It released at the tail end of 1998 so it's barely retro, good enough for the mods.

>>5787889
If we've already done some Quake, we could probably do some Half-Life as well. Doesn't have to be anything advanced, just some levels.

>>5787940
I haven't played many HL1 mods, but I'd like to see what someone who's main preferences lie with more "arcadey" FPS games could do with the game. No escorting scientists and having them get stuck on doors, no teleporting AGrunts in your face, no major dialogue. Just a neat level or two with the stylings of games that came before.

Might as well gauge some interest:

https://strawpoll.com/b8ed9fsz
https://strawpoll.com/b8ed9fsz
https://strawpoll.com/b8ed9fsz


We would need someone new to organize any such attempts, I have clearly shown that I'm a mess

What is your favorite Doom mod? For me, it's Paranoid.

>>5787923
Dat Elf Gets Pissed intermission screen.

>>5787978
Dakka, it's comfy as fuck.

>>5787978
MetaDoom is cool.

>>5787537
>level is a place, but parts are locked, unlock them and exit (aka Metroid style progression)
Except Metroidvanias are a large, interconnected series of one map or non-linear series of maps, not a linear progression of individual maps. The key is how the map or maps are INTERCONNECTED and areas previously explored open up further as your skills and arsenal expand. The key here is repetitive, iterative map exploration, in Metroivanias you are always EXPLORING.

>>5787842
Marathons a book that wants to be a game.
Half Life's a movie that wants to be a game
Get your shit straight

>>5787537
>>5787550
>game has backtracking
...THIS is metroidvania
t. Average YouTuber

half life is a movie game it will never be as good as doom or quake.

>>5787775
FUCK OFF to /v/, hl was the halo/cod of it's time.

half life is a movie game it will never be as good as doom or quake or marathon.

Regardless of what you think of HL, i always thought 2 had some comfy water
What retro FPS do you think has the best looking/feeling water?

>>5788076
HL

keep deflecting and pretending your movie game will be respected here.

>>5788076
Shadow Warrior probably has the smoothest-animated water of any 2.5D FPS.
Blood's water also stands out because its translucent in some cases, unlike the opaque water in other Build games.

>>5787978
Final Doomer and Samsara

any mods like this where I can have multiple weapon classes

Half-Life is legitimately very good. I don't understand why you guys hate it. Are you incapable of liking more than one thing?

>>5788091
I love half life. The people who dont like it cite some good reasons, but retro FPS is far from dead. HL1 and 2 did not kill the FPS genre, nor did anything else.

>>5786804
You can get used to it, but still, the story is the main reason to play Marathon

>>5788091
cope

>>5788091
It's literally one autist spamming again and again. How do you not notice?

Does anyone have a .ogg of the Doom 1 level end screen music recorded with an SC-55? It's the only track missing from my music pack for some reason

Marathon still better than half life.

ok so basically i'm a massive chump and i bought the steam versions of all the doom games on sale like 4 years ago
anyway, disregard that, all i wanna know is why after i replace dosbox with crispy doom in the steam folder for final doom, it will only ever launch plutonia even when i select TNT

Shooting in Quake feels so bad. Movement is top notch but shooting yuck very bad.

>>5788131
dilate valvetranny.

>>5788091

What >>5788113 said, it's just one retard trying to shoehorn/validate their shitty opinion about a videogame, most people here enjoy old FPS games without having a /v/-tier temper tantrum.

>>5788139
It's pretty much the exact same in Half-Life too though.

>>5788143
except people who enjoy retro fps don't like hl.

best way to play shadow warrior?

Holy fuck if mods don't do something about the hl shitposter his posts will end up taking up a half of those threads

>>5788130
or alternatively, maybe it's just named wrong? what should the filename for the intermission song be?

>>5788130
>>5788168
and the track IS in the music pack, named "d_e2m3.ogg"
maybe there needs to be a second version with a different name?

>>5786798
you're right, they are overdoing it a bit with the neon. sometimes less is more.

>>5787640
A better question is: Any real reason to use CrispyDoom over PRBoom+? And the answer is no. Crispy can't even play Boom shit which is the most popular format.

>>5788189
default settings?
like for example. prboom+ has different gamma and automap colors

wow did gmota's kustam sprites?
because they look so fucking good

>>5788152
I enjoy retro FPS. I also like Half-Life and understand why it's superior to previous FPS titles.

>>5787369
First you watch the pro's play, then you watch the tutorials and then you sink in thousands of hours gitting guud.

>>5788204
DrPySpy, same guy behind Doom Delta.

>>5788209
what projects is he up to now?

I didn't think Tricks and Traps was that bad
I mean, it's called Tricks and Traps. You know what to expect. It's like complaining about Sen's Fortress except if Sen's Fortress was called The Fortress of Trickery
And a lot of other Doom levels up to this point had the same type of traps. You get a key, a room of enemies opens. Standard shit.
The only really bullshit part was the meatball demons coming out if you shoot those switches

>>5788152

Who gives? I've seen a fair share of people that play quake and hl (myself included), you can play whatever games you want and not get butthurt about it, if you can't hold yourself from going postal on a doom thread it says more about you than about how bad HL is.

>>5788212
Tomb Fetus, more Doom Delta stuff, and the Space Pirate

Keep defending normalfag fps like cs and hl.

>>5788110
>SCURP A DE DERP COPE
Nice try, fucktard. I have played Marathon 1 and 3 years ago.
>>5788084
>t.rpgcodex elitst tard.

>>5788215
Tricks and Traps is annoying to max from pistol start due to the limited ammo which forces you to route the map and play it in the optimal order. It's a fun map if you're not being a pistol start tryhard.

>>5788232
This is you, dear crackkid.
>>5788234

there is nothing wrong with rpgcodex and elitism, pleb.

>>5788242
Found the crackkid who thinks he's smarter by going to RPGcodex.

>>5788160
>best way to play shadow warrior?
bump

is there really no good source port?

>>5788265
There's Redux or whatever it was called, it's got a few issues like landmines not rendering properly and I don't think you can turn off the HD HUD, but that's about all you're going to get.

>>5788265
The classic redux is good.

>>5786625
PESTIS CRUENTO

>>5788253
ttlg forums hated your shitty game too.

>>5788274
just tried it, felt like shit

also
>no console
>fov slider (can't even see the number)
>can't change HUD

Why did Half-Life/GoldSrc have a bigger modding community than Quake? Aren't they basically the same engine? What made GoldSrc more appealing?

I love how jannies are quick to remove discussion of recent retro-style FPS but dont seem to be doing anything about the schizo who's been spamming and ruining the thread for days.

>>5788282
TTLG is not one person. If you hate Half-life so much make your own damn thread about how its bad in your opinion.

I'm not the HL poster, I'm genuinly curious why GoldSrc had a huge modding community but Quake didn't.

>>5788307
he must be banned from /v/, not going to lie his anti-cs pro-quake threads on there are pretty funny and based

>>5788318
so you agree with cs being garbage?

>he doesn't pistol start

>>5787963
Yeah, I think that'd work, Half-Life levels with more of an arcade focus.
Make sure to put in some of the fun weapons too, like the Gauss Gun and the Rocket Launcher, and give you decent amounts of ammo for them so you can enjoy them a bunch.

>>5788323
yes

>>5788332
yet you like half life.

Why everyone plays Megaman Wads on on-line Multiplayer?

>>5788318
If your mom drank while pregnant, maybe.

>>5788215
I think it's one of Doom 2's more fun maps because it picks a gimmick and goes all the way with it.

>>5788307
I'm assuming mods/jannies just aren't fucking here right now.
You could fraudulently report it as illegal content, that'd put some fire in their ass and make them actually have to do their job, but the kicker is that you'll get banned for that too, so I'm not recommending that.

>>5788335
hl1 is a single player game it being casual doesn't matter as much and hldm is much more skillful than cs anyway

>>5788316
Valve supported it longer, and also bought the rights to a few mods and had them published properly, like Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic (which was a Quake mod to start with) and Day Of Defeat.
These were good games which held people's attention for a long while, and there was a lot of other good mods too, like The Specialists and Sven-Coop. It was kind of an amazing age of modding and a lot of really cool stuff was made on GoldSource.

It was also a more advanced engine, letting people do more, and things like skeletal animation made a lot of things MUCH easier as compared to the headaches of vertex animation.
Most people if they were looking at the Quake engine at that time, they were probably looking at playing just Quake and Quake maps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nOKMPyRGCs

closer to quake than cs

>>5788328
>pistol start
i'm so glad that i'm not that level of autism

>>5788393
your loss, really

Guys, I just realized something the other day after rewatching the Doom Eternal speedrun from Quakecon.

The guy on the left at the beginning states some rules for the run. He mentions some basic stuff, get all kills, get certain secrets, but he also mentions specifically, "no gauss jumps, no rocket jumps."

https://youtu.be/mNh_rnos1yE?t=87

I think rocket jumping was accidentally confirmed for Eternal.

inb4 >not retro

>>5788413
keep the zoomer shit on /v/

>>5788413
nice

>>5788413
Neat. Hope there's upgrades to enable it.

>>5788425
So what are you doing here then?

Do you think wads like SUNDER are a monument to the hubris of man and a big ol' masturbatory meme, or are you bad enough dudes to actually finish them on Ultra-Violence?

At least for me, speaking as a scrub who can't into slaughter and is having trouble with the second half of Ancient Aliens UV, it feels like they're mapsets made for an elite club of top-tier doomers and no one else. But maybe I'm overestimating the skill required to beat them?

cs still is garbage.

>>5788447
Slaughter is a very certain kind of flavor, you either like it or you don't. Just like a normal map can be good or bad, there's good slaughter, and bad slaughter.

>Ancient Aliens UV
Skillsaw likes cranking up the monsters a lot, consider HMP.

>>5788453
What are some examples of good vs bad slaughter?

>he got a key
>uncage ze revenants

hldm and cs are garbage.

>>5788462
12 hours a day, every day
get medicated already

>>5788457
The New Gothic Movement wads had one or two maps which felt pretty weak and slapdash, along with some pretty damn good ones.

marathon> crap-life.

>>5788491
based

Based jannies for hiding the truth about cs and hl.

Daily reminder that you should report, hide and ignore the resident hl shitposter's posts.
His post had been deleted and I hope he got banned, but probably he'll return.
Don't feed the trolls.

>>5788529
Ebic meme my fellow hl redditor. You really show him.

What's a good megawad to explore and finish along with my bud on co-op. Not a slaughter mod, something with hallways and tunnels, and less open spaces full of hundreds of sprites ripping and tearing each other.
I'd guess something maze-like as if out of Oblige, but not bland procedural stuff.

>>5788597
This one is Misri Halek, map20 from Alien Vendetta.

Hl casualized fps. You can't ban forever jannies.

>>5788023
>i'm retarded, can't understand correlations, and able to interpret them only as direct equivalence
ok, retard

>>5788009
I did not compare them directly, so that argument is not really valid. You argue about that it's not "literally same", and I agree - I never said that they are exactly same.
However the process of exploration of the opened areas, then returning to the old areas because what you did in the new one unlocked something in the old one is similar enough to draw a comparison on that basis.
The general structure is similar. The gameplay loop goes according to a significantly similar algorithm.
And if you say "all games do that", think again and try to remember any modern FPS that follows similar structure.

>>5788604
I've heard there were 2 versions of AV, with some maps replaced. Where do I get which and what's the difference?

>>5788647
Yes, first version is from 2001, was revamped into the 2002 version because of speedrunning.
Alien Vendetta Black Label from 2016 is kind of a patch only, you still need the alien vendetta 2002, just load the black label one after it. Black Label just replaces MAP01 and MAP02 up to more modern standards.
The 2002 versions changed a lot, from the doomwiki:
>The second release, made in 2002 when it was selected for usage on Compet-n, made various changes to almost all of the levels; the biggest change is the replacement of MAP25: Valley of Echoes with another map, MAP24: Clandestine Complex, as well as the relocation of the former MAP24: Demonic Hordes to MAP25.

All versions can be downloaded from the official alien vendetta page at http://doom2.net/av/get.html

>>5788316
HL made it easy. Quake made it hard. Simple.

>>5788204
Pyspy makes models and turns them into sprites. It's good stuff.

>>5788328
>he gives a shit how other people play sp

>>5788687
Some kind of hivemind deal, I bet.

Man DarkDoomZ is good stuff. The red filter flashlight makes everything more terrifying. It's like Doom 3 with fast Doom gameplay. And you have to be careful where you put your feet!

>>5788597
Also check Memento Mori 1 & 2.
Great classic maps.

>>5788721
I want a cute anime girl to put her feet on my face

>>5788721
Ah, I see you you are a man of culture as well.
Yes, DarkDoomZ.pk3 is great. If you liked the DarkDoomZ tweakeable fog settings, you should also look at "Fog_effects.pk3".
It gives you even more control over the fog settings, like a more subtle density slider, RGB color, and color randomizer.
PIC RELATED

Brother lets keep 4+4chan ALIVE.

#CONQUER4chan

>>5788739
God damn it.

Can anyone recommend a port for Chasm?

>>5788738
Looks nice, I shall try it. Reminds of the fog on Doom Legacy, that was the port I used for many years.

>>5786501

DBP14: After the Fall RC3/final release

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107872-dbp14-after-the-fall/

>>5788759
Google can. There isn't much to choose from.

>>5786498
anyone interested in an oldschool netquake/qw dm server? Thinking about running one but I dunno if it's worth the trouble. No mods stock with maybe a few extra maps

Blood Fresh Supply is now abandoned. This was fast.

>>5786498
Also anyone have a mod or the quakec code to enable deathmatch 2 mode in netquake? Weapons stay mode

>>5788759
PanzerChasm

>>5787453
It runs well in software mode, if that's what you mean. It's the same engine as regular winquake with a few things added

>>5787689
I'm a mod developer. People always complained about how to install the mod until I finally provided an installer with automatic folder detection. Putting files into folders is hacker territory for most people.

>>5788764
Fuck captive IPs.
Fuck corporations.

>>5788771
Geek hobbies got invaded by normies.
Back in the day you had to know about memory modes and how make a custom autoexec.bat then reboot or shit like that to run a super popular DOS game like DOOM or Duke.

Talking about 90's super popular games, do the Descent mod scene died? I remember the source code became open sourced.

>>5788764
So, it is now forever a buggy slightly-off reinterpretation instead of a proper port.
Fuck Atari.

>>5788761
>DBP14: After the Fall RC3/final release
Looking sweet, glen.

>>5788775
It has 2 sourceports and a few level packs IIRC.

>>5788781
Good to know, I'll give it a try.

>>5788778
And it will stay as the "definitive" version for nomalfags.

>>5788764
Piece of shit cash grab, huh?
Leak the code.

>>5788796
I've had people who should fucking know better trying to rationalize it as the best port because it takes a little less time to install and set up.

>>5788803
Makes me sad that modern PC people can't be arsed to set up the most basic of things.

>>5788807
Steam made things too easy. Back then you had to go on the dev/publisher website, download the patches and install them manually etc. Which actually wasn't that different from modding in some aspects.

>>5788771
Fucking hell. Disgusting.

>>5788812
"I payed over a thousand bucks for this entertainment rig. Things should just work! I don't need to know things!"
I've seen variations of this statement over the years. It somehow keeps getting worse.

>>5788771
Oh man, that's not something I miss dealing with, getting users to lift a finger for anything is a fucking pain.

Keybinds, settings, versions, not updating shit in a dumb way, it's a thankless support task that takes over your development time if you let it.

>>5788821
Yet here we are, in this thread, just waiting for another know-nothing to pop in with some basic question. Options? Console? INI FILES?! DIFFERENT VERSIONS?!? WHAT THE FUCK? I DON'T GET IT!
These things COULD be bothersome back in the day but at least we solved that shit. And when we did, we sure as hell got more enjoyment out of whatever game we had trouble running.

Pick what you think is the worst from here and say something nice about it.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Shovelware_cover_art


I'll start with PIC RELATED:
>Those are some good asterisks there man.

>>5788828
Thanks for reminding me to refuel my old floppies.

>>5788827
Most people's first option weren't to go to somebody else and ask for shit to be done for them.

It's kinda sad, the amount of five second edits you see being asked for in this community, because it's too much work for them.

>>5788835
Suppose Internet 2.0 really did manage to dumb people down. Or maybe something else did. I really have no idea what happened anymore. Even using the wiki seems to be too much work these days. Search engines? NOPE. Reading the OP? Absolutely not! NEVER!
Still, people manage to find these threads. Somehow. Weird.

Been working on something for that mapping contest, anons?

>>5788828

This has some 90s psychedelic charm

>>5788764
You have to be kidding me

>>5788828
Lol this is awful stuff yet it fuels my nostalgia for those years. Back in the day having one of those sure was an awesome thing.

>>5788828
>>5788832
>>5788848
Nostalgia as fuck.
I remember buying those kind of CD-ROMs at the magazine stand when kid.

>>5788828
Wow, a ISBN, radical!

>>5788857
>>5788853
I feel you both.

>>5788189
PrBoom+ mouse control feels really bad to me for some reason, and you can't get chunky pixels, unless there are settings I don't know about

>>5788857
Funny how people in their 30s or 40s have become the new breed of grumpy old men. I sometimes laugh to myself thinking that the 20-somethings of today will one day get a kick in the back of their heads when they realize that they've gotten old and outdated too. But, some claim that the rise in tech and innovation has reached a kind of plateau. Nowhere to go for a while and no new bust-through-the-ceiling ideas. Could be a decade. Could be a week.
I just want the comfort to taper off some. Put those brains to use and all that.

>>5788828
10/10

>>5788864
I can play crispy on my potato toaster really-really old linux little note-craptop and with excellent FPS.
It's the kind of thing many linux repositories fetishize, legacy but still maintained code.
Also, Chocolate Doom.

>>5788759
PortableChasm (or literally just DOSBox) is probably the best way to play it, considering the state of PanzerChasm, Chasm-Reverse and OpenChasm.

>>5788728
i want to be a cute anime girl

>>5788876
Chasm-Reverse is a hill isn't it?

https://archive.org/details/bookofid

does Zero Master have autism, i cant believe that motherfucker did Plutonia on nightmare

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Strategy_and_editing_guidebooks#Final_Doom

Anyone know if these have been scanned?

>>5788902
He has an interest. Call it autism if you must.

So because of that mass shooting, is 4chan going to get shut down now?

I don't want to go back to regular forums, fuck that noise.

>>5788928
why are you asking this in a Doom thread?

>>5788937
Probably a 8fag because Doom threads are common over there. Either way, it's off-topic and he's a fag.

>>5788902
>>5788921
passion and autism are interchangable words for some people it seems

>>5788937
>>5788945
Because I like our hobby circle here but we're not in a vacuum, we're sharing a website with people who get us all in trouble.
So that we can continue the train of thought we're on I wanted to know where people will be if that happens.
I didn't know there was even a doom community over there, I remember arguing with anons years ago to not go and form one there as it splits the community.

>>5788954
i mean yeah, we are just a thread on a board that's all contained within a larger website, it's just that this thread would get more legitimate responses on somewhere like /b/.
If you really wanna know what i think, i think that the site will remain online like it always has, but we will see more stuff like the 4channel shit in the future, that will purposefully try to hide the more "spicy" boards. Or hey, maybe we will all live to see the day where 4chan no longer represents freedom of speech and is heavily moderated.
In the end, if 4chan goes down for the count, most people will just migrate over to other chin sites and bring their culture with them.

>>5787762
>playing Quake for the first time right now and it fucking sucks
I thought the same until I played the second time. It was much better because when I played it for the first time it was right after Doom. Which was a mistake.

>>5788962
*this post

>>5788954
Deleting a website won't remove assholes from the world. Not like we can do anything about it anyway. Whatever happens happens.

>>5788928
It's useless shutting down even a board, let alone an entire site. The posters will just migrate elsewhere. The only thing that could work is the police tracking the IP of some of the most violent posters and paying them a visit, showing them that they aren't as anonymous as they think. But that would be a waste of money and time going after people that technically haven't committed any crime while there's more serious job to do.

>>5788928
We'd have to migrate to double-chan I guess
No other place.
Except maybe russian 2ch
We have Doom generals there as well.

But if they go that route why not ban Twitter, Facebook and Tumblr at the same time, those manifestos been posted there before.

>>5788984
They don't want to ban Facebook and Twitter and such because they're the members of the elite, why would they go after their primary means of social engineering?
4chan is never going to get banned anyway because it's still relatively tame, 2^3 has been accused of hosting child pornography, bringing 3 mass shooters about and being a harbor for GG, and they managed to find a new host after 48h.
Unless Hiro develops a stronger thirst for advertisers, 4chan will remain.
Sage for politics.

>>5788928
8ch is already up and running, calm down.

>>5788995
>and being a harbor for GG
Is that still the internet bogeyman because some game journalists got caught with their pants down and overcompensated?

>>5789035
Yes

>>5788950
I know a retired psychologist who once said something akin to "anyone who has a strong interest in something could get an autism diagnosis." That was a long time ago. He was joking to some degree but I guess the internet had the same idea and just ran with it. Kinda silly.

>>5789035
At this point it's ridiculed for being a dead horse on the site. Only weirdos on twitter keep GG relevant and as a result make the threads active again.

>>5789042
everything is a fucking mental disorder

>>5789064
I scratch my ass when it itches. Must be childhood trauma coupled with OCD.

>>5788950
I do think the two can be related to a degree. Obviously being really passionate about something doesn't always equate to autism, but I've autistically tried to pair different level WADs to WADs that make it so you can move like Quake/Dusk, and be slightly frustrated when I find out the level WADs I use have jumping disabled.

There's definitely more severe cases of it, but I really just wanna bhop and strafejump in Doom, damnit.

>>5789072
It's not hard to force jumping on, it's even easier to edit out the line to disable jumping.

>>5789076
I'm gonna sound like an idiot but how? sv_jump doesn't work so I assume you have to go into doombuilder or w/e to do so.

>>5789072
>search for option
>jump
>allow jumping: yes
Anon, please.

>>5789083
Allow jumping IS turned on for me you dip. It works on every other wad that allows it but sometimes I think it's just hardwired.

>>5789086
Scratch that, it was set to "Default" which I assumed meant jumping's on by default but oops me stupid

>>5789086
sv_allowjump or make a MAPINFO patch

>>5788189
Now the real question is: Ist there any reason to use PrBoom+ over Doom Retro or Eternity?

>>5789090
Use this wiki for engine shit next time. Not completely up to date but certainly good enough.
https://zdoom.org/wiki/

>>5789064
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2e3-c_0WJgo

>>5789090
"default" means "on unless the MAPINFO says off"
sv_jump 2 means "always on"

>>5788870
>that school-shooter outfit
Uh oh.

>>5788928
Are you a fucking idiot?

>>5788902
He's what we call a master, appropriately.
Maybe it's autism, maybe it isn't and the guy is just crazy good anyway.

The Plutonia Nightmare speedrun is pretty fucking crazy to look at, at any rate.
Sometimes when I'm cooking dinner, I'll put that on and occasionally give it glances between chopping vegetables and stirring pots, just marvelling at some of the wildest SP footage ever captured of Doom.
I'd love to see him do Alien Vendetta on Nightmare sometime, if anyone could do it, it'd be him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIrTwZjxcQ8

>>5788887

>>5789035
Yes. Literally only people desperate to stay relevant still bring it up. Everyone else moved on.

>>5789082
If a Doom level has jumping or freelook disabled, and you can't toggle it off in-game, then it's been defined in the level's MAPINFO file, in which case you can just open the .wad in Slade3 and go and go erase those lines.

Mind that sometimes things like that are disabled for very particular reasons.

>>5789216
>If a Doom level has jumping or freelook disabled, and you can't toggle it off in-game, then it's been defined in the level's MAPINFO file, in which case you can just open the .wad in Slade3 and go and go erase those lines.
what? no, sv_allowjump, sv_jump 2, and sv_allowfreelook all override MAPINFO

>Plutonia Nightmare
The decino guest star man might pull that out of his ass if you ask nicely. Commentary and all.

Well, here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVyMsAja5z8

>>5787492
John romero and JohnC said once that most of DOOM was also inspired by the OG metroid and Return of Samus
Even Doomguy's helmet and Design were inspired by it because they loved the atmosphere and exploration.
Learn your history about doom zoomerfag.

>>5789305
>said once that most of DOOM was also inspired by the OG metroid and Return of Samus
[citation needed]
The influences they've cited have been Aliens, Evil Dead 2, and Dungeons & Dragons

>Pulled the expansions for Quake 1 from the OP links because I never got around to them
>You need a command line or a modified shortcut to the sourceport to run them
>Once they are running the music and atmosphere feels more like a crossover with Quake 2.
I wasn't expecting any of this, but its still more Quake I guess. The laser rifle is fun.

>>5789317
Even secret hunting as from Wolf3D.

>>5789064
Ego is one hell of a disorder. And it will always be.

Why does Crispy Doom require you to confirm a load from an IWAD in any folder that's not its own?

>>5789394
Probably just overcautious security stuff.

>>5789402
Is there any way to disable it? It's very annoying.

>>5789321
>You need a command line or a modified shortcut to the sourceport to run them
That's exactly how you did it back in the day, too. You could have also just typed 'game hipnotic' in the console. Please don't tell me you think making a shortcut is too complex to play a mod.

marathon and goldeneye>half life.

>>5789406
Not at all, I'm just used to the easy way its done these days that's all. Creating seperate shortcuts for both expansions and episode 5 was really simple.

>>5789413
>I'm just used to the easy way its done these days that's all.
How much fucking easier can it get? Jesus wept.

>>5787902
>Like there's a few dozen peasant NPCs of various colors, and what ID they are will affect just which NPC they actually are on each map slot, likewise for acolytes.
That's how they work in the existing game maps, the actual peasants and acolytes are duplicate templates that can be then be made unique using custom dialogue for each one. The various QuestItems used to mimic the game progression flags and the weird line actions for comm unit messages aren't needed to be used when you have ACS available.

>>5789265
Well, here something else is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-wwayULLg

Is Peterson responsible for archvile?