/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5789040
How do you get the original Civ 2 (not MGE) running on a 64-bit system?

>>5789054
... why don't you want MGE?
And you can literally google the patch for that

>>5789040
Slightly prefer III just because of how it looks and sounds and those samurai scenarios are awesome, but I'd say it's close between the two of them

Post Civ music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqTPqVRoBk

>>5789421
>civ3
NOT RETROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5789421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGnGdAfVASk
Civ 3 had the best music in the entire series, period.

>>5789361
It has fucked up AI that resets to max hostility at the start of every round. I know that there's a fan-made patch for that, but just wondering if there's a way to run the original on 64-bit systems.

>>5789657
>I want to play this game
>Have you tried the patch?
>No, fuck that shit, I just want to play it

>>5789724
So you don't know how to get the original Civ 2 running on a 64-bit system. Okay. Bye bitch.

>>5789740
The original supported Win3.x, so it runs fine in DOSBox + Win3.x
MGE is 32-bit only, so it must be patched to run on a 64-bit OS, but I could never get the videos to work (Intel Indeo codec). So I run MGE with PCem + Win98SE. Of course the original would work with PCem + Win9x, also.

>>5789740
The original release won't run on 64-bit Windows you will need an old machine. Civ2 Gold will work.

>>5789527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2b7TQpyQY8
Conquests might add bunch of shit into gameplay, but the music was spot-on.

>>5789740
You literally can't, you complete moron, unless DOSBox counts. But given how dense you are, I expect something in tune "but I wan't to run it, not emulate it"

>>5789040
>would play the PS1 version on a comfy setup all the time since its release on successive console gens
>dad saw me playing it the exact time it went to the throne room screen to replace some shitty jpg of the cave walls with cheering sfx
>he got mad at me instantly for playing a shitty game for some reason
>he now always mocks me when I'm playing a retro game
>I always get anxiety attacks when someone sees me playing anything that's not current gen
Hey I wonder why I'm embarassed to expose my tastes to people IRL and never got into any kind of music because of it, I'm gonna pay $20000 for some therapy sessions to find out.
tl;dr: the ps1 port is cool.

Hardest difficulty.
Spam cities until you meet ai.
Steamroll ai or protect against them.
If you feel like it, trigger We love the president day until all cities max out on population.
Win.
Engrossing gameplay.

>>5789740
He told you to patch the game. That's the way of running it on 64bit.

>>5789993
Don't worry about what anyone else thinks about you.

How does it feel to be wrong?

>>5790159
>Not even Civilization by the title
Yeah, tell us how it feels to be wrong

>>5790015
The "solved" nature of Civ2 is why I generally prefer Civ4, but every game in the series is pretty good. Though I'd rather play SMAC than Civ2 now.

>>5789040
Dumb question. What's the difference between this and Test of Time? I have original ToT lying somewhere on the shelf.
From what I understand those are two completely seperate versions?

>>5791426
>those are two completely seperate versions
Yup, pretty much.
The game was MicroProse (under Hasbro's management) attempt to say "fuck you" to Meier and Reynolds for quitting, forming Firaxis Games and making SMAC.
So they've scrapped together everyone they still have in the studio and ordered them to update Civ 2 and re-pack it as a new game. Ultimately this means newer, better graphics and option to "colonize" Alpha Centauri rather than just sending ship to it (new map with shitty techs and nope, it's nowhere near as good as SMAC).
All in all, it failed financially and has signs of being a hack job all over the place. Not bad game on its own, but it's the Civ equivalent of Skyrim's bullshit "re-launch" just few years after it premiered on upgraded graphics.

>>5789740
Based retard

>>5789993
Sorry to say, but your dad's retarded. Civilization is one of the few games that can be educational if used right.

>>5789993
>>5791948
Meanwhile back in the day, my father was always making sure what kind of games I'm playing and/or getting. Which meant the moment he learned about Civ 2, it was pretty much a sure-fire buy. We spend ages playing this together in the late afternoons.
Civ games, city builders and trading games were pretty much all I've played up until age of 12 or so. I regret nothing. Ironically, most of those games either were from premiere or ended up on my country's Ministry of Education list of games suggested as educational tools.

>>5789040
A fantastic game

>>5790743
Bro, they lost the license. Everything but the name

>>5792438
They never had one to begin with. And CtP never really understood what made Civ good to begin with, it was just a drab clone trying to reinvent the wheel and failing at that.
It's not like the Civ main series peaked with 4 anyway, but still, CtP is a dead-end direction.

>>5789040
5 was better

>>5793629
>Even the dev team admits they've fucked up completely with 5
>B-better
Sup, newfag. I bet you only ever played the hex-trash version of Civ. This is one of those rare situations where I feel it's fully justified to slam on the new guys for not playing older games, because Civ 5 is a hot, steaming pile of shit for anyone with ANY Civ experience... and a fine, engaging game for newfags that just started out.
And it has the exact irreversable effect on brain function as playing 3.X and higher editions of D&D has on fa/tg/uys - it makes you incapable of playing anything else or even trying doing so.

tl;dr your taste is shit and so are you

>>5789527
Civ 4 had the best music but that's only because almost none of it is original

>>5793672
Civ 4 music gets shit once you get to Industrial tech.

>>5793771
the modern era is the shit music era.

>>5794107
Civ 3 had the best music in modern era.
Civ 4 had the worst music in modern era (and mods keep that).
What the fuck?!

>>5794604
>Civ 4 had the worst music in modern era (and mods keep that).
Introduced me to some kewl Bach cello suites, so there's that.

>>5796865
I just mute it at Industrial and play Civ3 music instead.
C2C is probably the biggest disappointment, thou. Such fuck-huge collection of music... and it too starts to suck at Industrial and gets plain unlistenable by futuristic techs

>>5789054
>>5789896

CIV2 and both expansions running under win 3.11 installed on top of latest dosbox svn

https://mega.nz/#!GGoVkQxJ!x3Zifd1yUtZ7u4EJ3veaIlSb-2hRDr7BaxuFGz9VU8A

(beware: scanline shaders )

>>5790159
that cover is rad

>>5797452
thanks!

>>5789740
just play it on snes

Does this differ from freeciv at all?