/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: You already missed it
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[7-31]After the Fall - DBP14 RC1 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107872-dbp14-after-the-fall/

[7-32] Daggerfall Unity public alpha release
https://www.dfworkshop.net/projects/daggerfall-unity/live-builds/

[7-27] AMC TC v3.5 released, receives a massive art overhaul.
https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc

[7-26] Doom 1, 2 (Including Master Levels), & 3 now available on Nintendo Switch, Playstation 4, & Xbox One.
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/1154788818970714112

[7-21] Mapping contest with $250 prize: make a Prey 1996-themed map within one of numerous games
http://talonbrave.info/?p=1801

[7-20] Quake SM199 - five maps made by teams of two mappers
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61754

[7-19] Tim Willits leaves id Software, after being at the company for 24 years
https://twitter.com/TimWillits/status/1151870022421241857

[7-18] Aleph One may be getting better mouse support
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20190331

[7-17] Copper Quake updates to 1.05
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[7-17] Mapwinch RC1 released - 30 mappers randomly paired with each other to make 15 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107249-come-eat-the-mapwich-a-collaborative-community-project-rc1-available/

[7-12] Ion Maiden deflowered into Ion Fury
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1619524466602443850

[7-8] New beta release for La Tailor Girl
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=390#p1110538

[7-4] Alien Bastards! a new Doomer Boards mapset inspired by Alien Carnage
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1541/dbp13-alien

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

first for A_CPosAttack

Hello. I haven't played Doom since that skulltag vs zandronum drama. Was it like 5-7 years ago?
I have sudden urge to play Doom again. I mostly played multiplayer modes. Can you enlighten me on current situation of "how's alive the community"?
I used to run Zombie Escape and "Who dun it" maps a lot.
Is there a populated servers that still run those wads?
Also what should i use as my source port now? Is Zandronum still the king of MP?
What about server browser? I remember there was some shitty russian programm, IDE or something like that?
Is there any alternatives or big game changers in those categories nowadays?

Also really shitty question, don't get mad plz How do i make steam overlay work with zandronum+server browser? I know i can add it as a separate exe but steam won't count my play time if i do, i could also do chain .bat file, replacing dosbox in steam version with server browser exe, it will count playtime this way but no overlay then

i dont know how to put this into words exactly but does the problem of picking up green armor when you have blue armor in doom exist in quake 1?

>>5780912
Yes...?

>>5780912
kinda, but not in the same way. instead of a straight "does this raise your armor count" check, it factors in the effectiveness of the armor - each point of green armor is worth 0.3 points, each point of yellow armor is worth 0.6 points, and each point of red armor is worth 0.8 points. once that's factored in, then it does the "new armor points > old armor points" check.

so if you have yellow armor, you can walk over green armor without accidentally replacing it until you fall under 50 yellow armor (0.6 * 50 == 0.3 * 100).
if you have red armor, your thresholds are 37 armor for green armor (37 * 0.8 < 100 * 0.3) and 112 armor for yellow armor (112 * 0.8 < 150 * 0.6).

it took until quake 2 for the issue to truly go away.

>>5780890
>[7-32] Daggerfall Unity public alpha release
>[7-32]

>>5780940
I fell asleep

Is zandronum dead? The last stable version is from 2017. No vulkan support, i guess?
Sorry for dumb question, i haven't played doom in a long time so i'm don't know the news.

Does anyone know what the technophobia and armageddon difficulties actually do in DoomRLA?

>>5780909
The community is somewhat alive, Zandro is really the only MP port with a decent sized playerbase
There are servers with those gamemodes I think, but I don't know if anyone plays them anymore, it's all about Complex and MM8BDM
Zandro is the recommended MP port, but for SP you'd want Chocolate, Crispy, PR+ or GZD
Zandro comes bundled with Doomseeker, a pretty nifty browser
as for Steam, I don't know, I didn't even realize you could do that

>>5780959
don't they say what they do when it asks to confirm selection

>>5780968
Technophobia says that only cybernetic enemies spawn and armageddon says 'welcome to armageddon, fool'.

>>5780936
and thinking about it, quake 2 didn't solve the issue; it just replaced it with the "wow that jacket armor only gave me 9 points of armor" issue.

what quake 2 does is this:
>endProtectRatio = max(currentProtectRatio, pickupProtectRatio)
>endArmorPoints = (currentArmorPoints * (currentProtectRatio / endProtectRatio)) + (pickupArmorPoints * (pickupProtectRatio / endProtectRatio))

so if you picked up jacket armor while unarmored, it'd absorb 25 points of damage over its lifetime. if you picked it up while wearing combat armor, it'd get scaled down and only add 12 armor points to your combat armor. if you had body armor, you'd only get 9 points of armor. I think the benefits outweigh the downsides, but it is still strange when you think about it.

then unreal just had armor types layer on top of each other, and it was better off for it

>>5780964
>Complex and MM8BDM
Fucking hell. I dunno what Complex is but i hated those dumb megaman wads. They do look nice, i admit it.
But i fucking hated boring gameplay.
WhoDunIt was DA BOMB. Man, to think that game with 30 years old graphics could scare the shit out of me. A multiplayer game at that. Amazing wad...

>>5780973
a mod where you can wear both green and blue armor at the same time
> 80dmg revenant rocket, 100 green, 200 blue, 100 health
> 80 * 0.335 = (100 - 27 ) = 73 green left, 53 goes through
> 53 * 0.5 = (200 - 27) = 173 blue left, 26 goes through
> 100 - 26 = 74 health left
thats pretty good

>>5780954
looks like nobody had made any new source code edit in the last 2 years

Got to admit, Project Brutality 3.0 is what I was looking for.

>>5780974
Complex, and all the super legendary ultimate god emperor of mankind laser demon king dildo mods of it, are what the autistic types went for before Hideous Destructor became popular.

>>5780948
did you dream of huh

Holy fuck Golden Souls 2 is amazing.

>>5781032
whats new?

i want to start doom weapon modding.
What are some examples i can play.

>>5781104
over 2.03?
ledge grabbing
new weapons
new weapon upgrades
new power ups
new monster variants

also runs way smoother IMO

refute this

>>>/v/472617002

>>5781154
Why didn't you git gud?

>>5781167
not an argument

Here is your every few thread reminder that you need to play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II

>>5781180
What about Mysteries Of The Sith?

>>5781154
This is true, Blood overrated, NAM better.

>>5781191
It’s not as good, but is also more interesting at the same time. Noghri enemies, more force powers, etc are great, but the bad sound, some terrible levels, etc are bad.

>>5781201
The additional weapons are mostly good too, some becoming series staples.

It's also probably the least shit use of Mara Jade, which is saying something because she's a fucking awful character.

Are there any texture artists here?

>>5781205
I’d say she was good in the Zahn books, especially the late ones like Allegiance and The Choices of One, but that doesn’t fix the issues that surround her thanks to other authors and writers.

>>5781174
But why didn't you tho?

>trying lt. typhon
>die to a chaingunner tucked away in a far away building
>her fucking ghost pops out and rushes the entire distance
>see the chaingunner's corpse get thrown out the window and then get treated to various distant blood splatters and gibs from every other enemy in there getting slaughtered
first time i've ever laughed this hard playing something doom related

>>5781316
Typhon is full of neat details like that that are so simple in their execution it's kinda brilliant. No Zscript bullshit, just clever usage of DECORATE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zkJuR88bfg

Starting off a map with 2 deaf Revenants in close quarters, a shotgun, and just enough shells to kill both if you don't miss. Good idea?

Sigil was great

>>5781338
this reminds me of classic gachimuchi edits.

>the fucking panda is back

Should I play Babel or D4T to celebrate?

>>5781027
on the bright side it doesn't have 2 years worth of mod breaking changes courtesy of Graf

I really wanted to play PSX's doom with some gameplay mods but nothing is working.
Well, I tried.

Does Hexen/Heretic not work on GZDoom or am I just retarded?

What a majestic lad.

>>5781475
You're definitely the retarded one.

>>5781485
Well I mean it worked but controls were all fucked.

>>5781487
Each game's setup is unique, even though you bound shit in Doom it's not gonna be bound in Hexen.

>>5781396
Flip of a coin.
Rejoice, friends!

>>5781489
Oh alright that makes sense, thanks

tfw too stupid to make wads

>>5781510
tfw to intelligent to make paks

>>5780890
First demo of Doom:Golden Souls 3 is out
https://youtu.be/QfJAGY--giA
Https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=65056

>>5781484
What is that your playing my good sir?

If I want to play Quake should I play vanilla or use a source port?

>>5781452
This, I installed zandronum in an old toaster potato linux laptop yesterday. It ran the opengl renderer at 200 fps on freedoom. It has some delicious low resolutions that newer gzdoom don't have anymore (fuck Graf) I'll try some many mods on it today, to see what it can run and what are its limits, then I'll have a local co-op land party fuck yeah. The server will be a faster windows machine.

>>5781551
A source port.

>>5781551
Quakespasm

>>5781551
Quake 1.5

>>5780889
Where can I find Quake 1 soundtrack so I can put it in Quakespasm?

>>5781581
Are you retarded or can't you read? OP POST PASTEBIN YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

I like my AM Rifle

>>5781484
Queencodemon

>>5781602
Oh, you did it. PASS is the best shit. Fuck those revenants.

What's the best setting for "Sector light mode"?

>>5781606
yass queencodemon

I want to make a Doom RPG. Sort of like Daggerfall, but Doom.

>>5781634
So do it.

>>5781641
I don't know how. The idea just sounds cool to me.

So, is this list of the 10 most influential FPS of all time accurate?
>Wolfenstein 3D
>Doom
>System Shock
>Duke Nukem 3D
>Quake
>Goldeneye 007
>Unreal
>Half Life
>Medal of Honor
>Halo

>>5781645
Well have you played the mobile RPGs?
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/8/3/118337251/id_mobile_games_collection.rar

>>5781624
Doom

>>5781648
I'd say so yeah. Call of Duty however, for better or worse, does deserve to be on that list even thought it'd make the list 11.

inb4 >not retro

>>5781648
System Shock? I don't know about that.

>>5781661
CoD is Medal of Honor meets Halo.

>>5781668
SS1 is a FPS through and through, just a ultra complex one with weird controls and primarily focused on immersion. SS2 is more RPGish.

>>5781484
Apparently, cacodemons can swim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMmbzGgKAfo
Minute 14.

>>5781602
I remember assembling Gauss Rifle in this mod. Felt like I've won the game afterwards, destroying bosses in 2-3 hits and one-shotting everything else.

>>5781624
'Vanilla' is considered to be the closest to original, although it's actually darker, you can notice it by switching renderer back & forth. 'Software', on the other hand, is a little brighter, and that's what I use.

>>5781671
SS1 was definitely a big deal with a lot of the stuff it did, both with storytelling and RPG mechanics in an FPS.

Also had a hell of a good variable difficulty setting menu, one that hasn't really been tried since, which is a shame.

>>5781682
Vanilla isn't original, it's vanilla zdoom or boom or some shit.

Does anyone have any advice for someone with programming experience, but never worked on a game to start working on a custom quake engine project?

I pulled the engine from github and saw its GPL so I wanted to try and make my own kinda overhaul custom models and whatnot, but beyond knowning C I don't really know where else to start.

>>5781690
Well, not my conclusion, that's what was said on some 'Make your GZDoom vanilla' thread on DW and is also used in Vanilla Essence. What is Software then?

What source port nowadays is the best for new wads?
I wanted to try hdoom, but i've heard on /v/ that it's bugged on old ports.
Is that true? I use zandronum, is that good enough for hdoom?

>>5781723
What's the map? The skybox made me think of TNT2, but it's not actually the one. Damn, I want TNT2 so much :(

>>5781735
It's my map pack that I currently working on. Don't worry anon, they going to finish TNT2 soon

Haven't played doom for a few months. What new mods do you recommend lads?

>>5781726
Use GZDoom for all singleplayer content, Zandronum is for multiplayer.

>>5781754
DoomRL Arsenal

I forgot how slaughter the backhalf of Scythe 2 gets

>>5781751
I'm a sucker for space skies, loving this one here too. Spotted one issue - it doesn't seem to properly wrap onto itself. Barely noticeable though.

>>5781671
I mean was it really that influential? Pretty sure it flew under the radar for most people.

Does GZDoom still squish models on the Z axis? Does JDoom do this?

>>5781510
It's actually pretty easy.

>>5781770
God damn it, I love DRLA. Even seeing screenshots makes me happy.

>>5781551
Sourceports work. Quakespasm is a decent one.

What's the deal with crispy doom's sound being all fucked up in the new version while it's fine in 5.5.2?

>>5781810
Maybe it's a temporary nod to the shitty Bethesda ports

Oh hey. On this episode of Things You Probably Already Knew: Crispy comes with some neat extras.

>>5780889
I read the Pastebin/FAQ. It says nothing about how to properly install the soundtrack for Quake1 into Quakespasm. Perhaps I should try my luck with eitherthepiratebay, isohunt, or Kickass torrents.

>>5781836
It has a lot of cool extra options.

Is Golden Souls 2 the most soulful wad ever made?

>>5781852
What about that megaWAD with all the Soul Spheres?

>>5781847
Why would any of those sites have a readme for Quakespasm? Don't be silly, anon.

FUCK HALF LIFE

>>5781862
See >>5781648

>>5781862
FUCK OFF, OBSESSED LUNATIC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28

Reminder hl was hated.
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62064

hl was so influencial that it killed the fps genre.

>>5781868
>>5781878
Story can be good. Your opinion is not fact, dipshit.

>>5781879
>>5781868
>>5781862
Reminder that you are hated. Right now! Relevant content!

Next you will say cs, halo and cod are good fps games.

>>5781879
>>5781882
No it didn't fucking sperg tard. Oh, and the ttlg forums are not the end-all for facts. Your opinion does not magically become fact just because a bunch of people on ttlg forums and rpgcodex agree with you.

>>5781142
Did you use the github version? I wouldn't recommend it right now because they're implementing their own version of Zmovement and right now it's not finished at all

>>5781890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28
shut up, Debbie downer. Your opinions IS NOT FACT! Cut it out!

I love the quad shotgun

My bumber sticker is "Make my SHOTTY a QUADDY"

PSA: Kiwifags are raiding 4chan of late

>>5781892
hl is inferior to deus ex, ss2 and thief.
ttlg know your game was mediocre back then.
MUH GAME OF THE YEAR AWARDS.

>>5781902
Would you stop talking to yourself already, please? Internal dialogue. Try that.

mad because LGS fans didn't like your game.

>>5781902
>MUH opinion is the correct one!
Yeah, because its impossible to like both games from LGS and Valve. Sod off, Crackwhore spawn.

>>5781914
So what if LGS forums tend not to like Half-life and counterstrike? They are not divine beings.

>>5781923
>wojakposting
that anon may be talking bullshit but have some dignity and use better memes anon

>>5781923
>you can't like both shit and gold xd
imagine liking the game that took credit for things that system shock did.

>>5781927
they know about good games unlike the pleb masses.

>>5781902
>looking up to TTLG and RPGCodex
how embarrassing

>>5781934
better than doomworld or quakeworld less biased too.

>>5781898
Try "as of its inception"

This is where they recruit

>>5781930
You can have your Ire all you want, dude. It won't make everyone agree with you.
>>5781937
How so? Because you say so? Yeah, because bias is something that can't happen to you and your friends! BS!

you will never understand lgs games like thief or system shock. what makes them better than pleb games like doom or quake.

>>5781950
at this rate just report him for flaming, since its obvious.

>>5781954
I have played both DOOM and SS1, as well as both Quake 1 and Quake2.
>HEHE you're not intelligent enough to like the games I like!

>>5781959
cope hl ripped off system shock and stole the spotlight.

the best 1998 game was thief not crap-life or unreal or mgs or zelda.

Is Doom Exp the only gameplay mod with leveling? I'm searching for something that has level/xp mechanics to use for ultragiga wads

whats the best wad to run with high noon drifter?

>>5781970
Dakka?

>>5781975
Ancient Aliens is a good choice

>>5781847
Did you read the infographic?

>>5781963
>cope
I still don't agree with you, madlad.
>>5781969
I agree with you on MGS1, its a tad overrated imho. You are still an irritable hipster.

imagine thinking hl was more influential that thief or system shock.

>>5781970
Heretical Doom and Lithium have leveling.

Half-Life, without question, is the greatest and most incredible videogame to ever be created on this planet we call Earth. The influence its had on our culture, nay, on humankind itself, is unfathomably large. To think that man was capable of creating something so perfect, it simply boggles the mind. If aliens do really exist, and if they were to come visit our world, and if they were to ask us to present to them our most grand and important artistic achievement, I would undoubtedly present unto them a copy of Half-Life, the 1998 PC masterpiece developed by Valve.

>>5781997
kys and play system shock.

>>5780890
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101479-sprites-and-textures-extracted-from-id-mobile-games-now-with-orcs-elves-2-and-doom2-rpg-brew-resources/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2013695

>>5781997
How could one game be so perfect and pristine?
It brings tears to my eyes, lesser software is incapable of competition.
Oh, the sheer Ecstasy.

>>5781796
I said most INFLUENTIAL FPS, not most POPULAR. Most people might not have played, or even know the existence of System Shock, but they certainly played games that were directly influenced by it.

>>5781862
Now compare it with Turok 2, another 1998 game.

>>5782020
yeah turok 2 is better than movie life.

>>5781648
Take shit life, moh, goldeneye and halo out.
Shit games that only retards like.

>>5782027
Thief and Deus Ex, among many other games ripped off Goldeneye, so it belongs there. Reminder that it's a list of influential games, not quality or popularity.

>>5782034
lmao.

>>5782027
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE OR ELSE YOU ARE A RETARD!
KYS Hipster punk

>>5782027
if anything should be taken out its you, anon

MOVIE LIFE GETS MORE CREDIT AND ITS MORE PRAISED THAN MASTERPIECES LKE SYSTEM SHOCK AND THIEF.

>>5782005
OUT OF MY WAY YOU FUCKS, IM SHITTING MYSELF HERE!

>>5781996
>>5781979
Thanks. I'm gonna go with this because damn I was already going for Synthdoom ost for the megawad compilations and this has a new version of it included, and even has a modified version of my favorite hud too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRyy5Z1ezM

I hate this fucking general.

>>5782053
Its just one guy being a nigger. Report and ignore.

tell me why hl is more influential than system shock again.

>>5782056
It's not, it's simply more popular. You're just retarded.

>>5782059
and inferior too.

>>5782051
really, what was on id's mind when they did this walking animation, is that hard to redraw over the original ones?.

Where in the FUCK is the red skull palace in Golden Souls 2?

>>5781551
Don't listen to these coprophiles. God gave you Moore's law, so you can perfectly emulate 20 years old hardware. Grab DOSBox and get used to orthodoxal resolution/framerate. Otherwise, your soul is fucked.

REFUTE THIS

>>5782065
I assume you wouldn't get a good look at it because it would be on a tiny 2000's mobile screen.

>>5782075
Playing Quake in dosbox is retarded, Carmack made GLQuake for a reason, and you have good ports of that today.

so when is Carmack going on Rogan?

>>5782075
based retard

>>5782075
This is some obvious Kiwifarms bait

>>5782086
Is nearest-neighbor filtering option present in GLQuake? Smoothed textures suck, no discuss.

>>5782103
whats up with the kiwifarms accusations as of late? did chris chan die or something?

see>>5782083

>>5782109
Lots of shit happening
Including anti porn wojak memes, flooding /co/ with garbage, edgy trolling towards the kyoani arson threads at /a/, and they involved on the Almost death of Sadpanda's website, since they sent reports.
Also they are the ones creating the low IQ bait posts here on /vr/ bashing ports and such.

the SJW kool aid went over their heads, /v/ mods are banning every single thread made by them atm with the garbage meme that they had been flooding since earlier this week.

>>5782103
I have no idea, what are talking about. I'm from 2ch, гoвнoeды. No trolling, I just have a sense of aesthetics, unlike you.

>>5782116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLijt3R8jeQ

even doomworld knows hl was not innovative .

>>5782118
I was wondering where this "cum brain" shit was coming from, I just assumed it was /v/ kids making another feels edit. Good thing I browse slower boards where these things aren't as likely to happen.

>>5782140
at this point wojacks should be banned across the site

>>5782131
hey, buddy.. i heard, you like hitscaners?

>>5781997
This
>>5782003
Get BTFO

>>5782142
You're right but that will never happen

>>5782118
how did the panda come back?

>>5781997
Black level on CRT cannot go lower when powered on. HL sucks, case is closed.

ttlg, doomworld, rpgcodex. i can post more websites hating on hl.

I found this cacodemon pondering his life choices

>>5782191
my thumbs hurt just by looking at it

>>5782196
it hurt to play yeah. must be what it's like to play vidya without your frontal lobe

>>5781316
My favorite part was finding a Gondola with a Doomguy helmet just walking around and minding its own business.

>>5782073
pls respond

>>5781529
Golden Souls. A mod that makes Doom more like Mario 64.

>>5781464
consolation prize?

>>5782051

>>5782108
Use QuakeSpasm, turn off bilinear filtering and presto, no smudging!
You can also turn off smudging in ports like GzDoom (it's on by default because Graf hates crispy pixels).

>Try Dead Marine
>satisfying weapon feedback
>completely nuts enemy replacements like a flying imp that revives enemies, flies around sanic fast and chucks fireballs like a motherfucker
>also featuring hitscanners with the punch of a small nuke
Not so sure about this one really.

hl is mediocre.
https://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/threads/half-life-the-most-overrated-game-series-of-all-time.28195/

>>5781707
I dont know exactly what you mean but if all you want to do is replace models, you dont need to change the engine, the game is moddable. Including a C-like scripting language called QuakeC that you can research.

hlfags will never recover.

>>5782168
They set up a server in Moldova. Almost considered China, but thank fuck they didn't.
I know a guy involved with the place and he says one of their plans is to set up servers in multiple countries to make it less vulnerable to attacks and takedowns, as well as an undisclosed contingency measure.

>>5781464
You want the Consolation Prize version.

>>5782142
They should have been banned many, many years ago. They were cancer upon their inception.

>>5782267
wasn't tendonman going to throw the towel? or did the sudden surge in donations change his mind?

>>5782235
What now? The version of Dead Marine Ive been using for some months have only changes the weapons and adds some environmental effects. If he added new monsters, you should check if you can find a monsterless version or older version.

>>5782267
>You want the Consolation Prize version.
Holy shit, thank you
And, that's good news for the panda

>>5782220
Thanks you, I was looking for 64 as well so this is perfect.

What do you guys think of Eternal Doom? No not the new game, the ancient Doom wad. I've tried to play it a few times over the years but the progression is SO fucking cryptic, way moreso than Hexen, I constantly get stuck.

>>5781893
Is there another way to get a working PB 3.0 copy besides the repository one?

>>5782267
>Consolation price
What's in a name

>>5782298
Zoomers with short attention spans shouldn't play wads like these. Patience, son, you need it.

>>5782298
It's a pretty slow and dry .wad, and it has a certain reputation for a reason.
Worth noting is that it was originally a project by one team, and then the project was absorbed by TeamTNT, who did a lot of changes, the original map authors have also stated that the maps are intended to be played from pistol start, that progressive play ruins it.

Alexander S. 'Eternal' loves this .wad, to the point that his online handle is Eternal. He took a lot of inspiration from it when making Epic 2, emulating its style of progression, however he does a substantially better job at it, and he gives it far more fun combat. It's essentially Eternal Doom done the proper way, it looks beautiful, it's huge and atmospheric, it feels like a long journey, and it's full with great and intense combat. The progression is occasionally somewhat unclear, but not even close to the point of Eternal Doom.

>>5782234
Not the other anon, but how do I turn off the filtering in QuakeSpasm? I don't see an option for it.

2 FUCKING WEEKS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5782352
Nice.

>>5782351
>go to id1
>create a file called autoexec.cfg
>put this into it
gl_texturemode 1
r_particles 2
r_wateralpha 1
r_slimealpha 1
r_lerpmodels 0
r_lerpmove 0
r_shadows 1
cl_rollangle 1
v_idlescale 0.5
v_gunkick 2
gl_texture_anisotropy 16
fov 110
cl_bob 0.01
r_scale 2
r_viewmodel_quake 1
scr_sbaralpha 0.9
gamma 1.4
contrast 1.6
r_sky_quality 32
r_slimealpha 0.6
r_telealpha 1
r_waterquality 32
scr_conspeed 9999
scr_conalpha 1
scr_conscale 2
scr_menuscale 3
scr_sbarscale 2
sv_aim 1
>now your quake looks a bit more like dos quake

>>5782310
Probably through their dis*ord but I never managed to get access to it

>>5782360

hlbabies can't prove me wrong.

>>5782352

Is Linguica from Doomworld a sane human being or just an insecure bitch? Every post I've read from him so far seems like this weird little man has serious issues.

>>5782372
Neat. Thanks.

>>5782319
I thought it was dull back in its day.

>>5782372
I'll give Quakespasm some critique for not having all the options available in the options menu.

>>5782373
new Radys Doom never ever

>>5782389
Well I'll be fucked, I never even noticed that the Ion Fury art was a reference to that.

>>5782372
Why is fov 110 always suggested when this is brought up? Not complaining, just seems to be a common value.

>>5782372
isn't this that one config that has hilariously stretched weapon models

>>5782423
to better see your surroundings
>>5782427
no, it looks like this

>>5782413
Gotta be referencing something old at every fucking turn with modern "retro" games.

>>5782440
ngl that FOV would just strain my eyes, it's fucking weird to look at just as a still

Guys I think brutal Doom looks kinda fun but I don't want to be a pleb what do I do??

>>5782460
just lower it to 100 or 90, I like using 110 fov in all games I can

>>5782462
you can enjoy things not approved by some or most of your peers anon
what are we going to do about it? go to your house and fuck you in the ass for playing BD?

>>5782449
To be fair, if they don't do shit like this, people start whining and complaining that it's "nothing like the old games waah waaah"

>>5782440
I usually enjoy 110-120 FOV in FPS but the weapon models look so bad like that in Quake, they clearly werent made for it.

>>5782462
If you’re interested, then play it.

>>5782472
I'd rather they find meaningful ways to learn from older games than have shallow references as proof they're totally retro. That takes effort though, it's much easier to do a Strafe.

prove me wrong hlcucks.

>>5782462
Give it a try, have an open mind, but be critical too.

>>5782258
Cool thanks for the tip I'll start looking into QuakeC along with some guides.

I meant something more of trying to use the engine for a new game entirely, however I think I should probably start with just modifying to get a feel for it and game logic in general most of my experience is embedded software.

>>5782496
Why don't you go bother your parents for attention?

Why does the Half-Life shittalker always spam his shit completely unprovoked?
I mean, I would understand him if there was a resident obnoxious HL-fanboy that constantly talks about how much better HL is than anything else and shat on all the other games being discussed here, but that just isn't the case.
This thread is almost exclusively about "2.5D" FPS, primarily Doom and the Build games, with some Quack thrown in the mix, the only time HL is mentioned is when someone randomly feels like making a single post, or when the HL spammer wants to shit up this thread again.
I'm pretty much the only person posting in these threads that can be considered a HL-fanboy to some extent, but I usually just express my love for the game in a positive way or post webms/screens.
There is literally no reason for conflict to exist.

>>5782514
That's like asking why schizophrenics think everyone's out to get them. There is no logic behind it. He's just an autistic retard.

>>5782250
Stop it. Get some help, dammit!

>>5782496
based. keep posting in every single thread, this is my motivation to you

>>5782514
I like Half-Life, it's one of my favorites, but people don't talk about it a lot around here.
I don't consider the current pest people, mind.

>>5782514
Yeah it's probably a good idea to be making this post. Good thinking.

>>5782406
he's too busy translating Strife to Japanese.

>>5782520
Hey, I'm here, so might as well.
I recently started playing Cry of Fear, and despite the jumpscares and the teenage edge, the mod is mechanically extremely competent.
One problem I encountered is that I quasi-softlocked my game by running out of ammo on chapter 4 after getting the fuse from the apartments, starting my first playthrough on difficult might've been a mistake, and the enemies are so fast and spongy that I waste a lot of ammo.
Should I restart the game on normal or something?

>>5782083
But what about ONI though?

>>5782560
Wait nvm. Brain fart. ONI released 2001 :P

>>5782537
I'd say start on normal. Hard is for if you have things memorized and feel more comfortable.
I started base HL on Hard and got my shit kicked in.
Years of playing Doom made me accustomed to UV, and by extension, I thought that I could waltz through any FPS on the harder difficulties, even if the playing styles were totally different. Half Life and its mods especially. I wasn't used to HECU grunts taking MP5 magdumps to the face, and learned to use heavier ordinance on them.

>>5782390
some doomworld frontrunners have a habit concern trolling in these threads, no sane human does that then again no sane human browses these threads either though

Heretic fucking rules lads

>>5782587
I'll try bashing my head against a wall for a while to try for a last shotgun ammo box spawn I remember, but if that fails I'll have to scrap my whole progress and go through that shitty intro jumpscare again.

Yeah, with the grunts you quickly learn to love the shotgun alt-fire, the grenades and the revolver, just popping and dropping them, the MP5 is best used for ammo conservation by spamming it into distracted enemies or low-tier ayys like houndeyes and slaves.

Okay, lads, I'm sold on Doomsday. How do I start making maps for it? Seems like there's very little documentation.

How's the mapping going, fellas?

>>5782390
He's an SA goon so take a guess

Any of you play Doom on a gamepad? I'm going to try coop with a friend who owns a Switch so I thought I'd try getting used to such controls first.
Goddamn this makes everything feel hard

When's the last time anyone's gotten hit by a Pinky?

>>5782657
Assuming all goes well, HUH will finally come out by the end of next week.
Haven't received any maps from stragglers in the meantime, which is unfortunate but not completely unexpected.

>>5782657
It's not. I'm trying to figure out how in the world to make maps for JDoom the the current year + 4. Seems like most editors have zero support for it.
>inb4 just make for GZDoom
I want to at least give it a go.

>>5782676
today because I was trying to clear NERVE.wad on delta touch using gyro aiming and touch controls

>>5782271
nevermind, twas the redux version

>>5782673
Doom on a gamepad isn't so bad. You can only aim horizontally.

>>5782693
>another week for HUH
someone kill me

>>5782475
QS actually defaults to 107 FoV. It uses hor+ scaling off the actual FOV so the default 90 widens to about 107 when playing at 16:9.

>>5781494
what happened to that wario land mod?

>>5782372
Now that's crisp, thanks anon!

>>5782782
>crisp
>literally running at 50% of your display resolution
>crisp

>>5782785
Sooo? What's wrong with that?

>>5782673
It actually works pretty well, it's not as good as keyboard + mouse, but it's a lot better than keyboard only.

I would recommend against the Switch ports of Doom and Doom 2 however, they're quite crude and poorly put together, if you're gonna play it on Switch consider a homebrew port.

>>5782781
Treasure Tech? Still in development.

>>5782793
It's fucking retarded, as are half the other options in that list.

>>5782781
There's a Wario mod?

I'm playing Quake for the first time right now and I just wanna say it's fun as hell

>>5782801
Wario inspired yeah, the dev's dealing with all kinds of life shit at the moment but hopefully he can get back to it and finish it up soon, it's pretty close to being ready.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-pqdUYgxpM

>>5782823
This looks pretty good. I look forward to throwing Lost Souls at everything.

>>5782818
Same with Quake 1.5
The only Quake I played before was 2 a long time ago and I thought it was shit. This is way better

GZDoom 413 seems to break pain elementals
I was playing DTWID 2 and the meatballs wont spawn lost souls, only happens on 412 or lower for some reason

>>5782462
Its alot of fun, theres this weapon testing map where you can mess around and spawn monsters and see how the guns work. Its really not that bad as a gameplay mod, sure its piss easy but if you just want to kill a few minutes its ideal

>>5782496

>>5782798
why?

>>5781339
give the player a box of shells instead of counting it out, it's a good idea.

>>5782083
Unreal and Half Life are both not boring imo, I love the atmosphere and music of those games. Goldeneye has shitty controls and awful framerate, you can barely see anything either. Unreal and Half Life wipe the fucking floor with Goldeneye in terms of gameplay.

>>5781339
when in doubt, add a berserk pack somewhere to give the player a fighting chance if you get too stingy with the ammo

>>5782893
GoldenEye is still a lot of fun with the Mouse and Keyboard patch (which also has an option to fix the framerate.)

>>5780889
There is STILL no working Sourceport for Shadow Warrior better than JFShadowWarrior

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH ZDL
NOW DOOM RUNNER IS MY BEST FRIEND

>tfw no Perfect Dark HD port to PC

>Mod makes radsuit an inventory item

>vanilla Dead Marine
oooooh so good
That SSG is getting into my top 3 along with the one in Babel

>>5782959
The advantage is that you get to keep it and use it for other areas, the downside is that you have to fiddle around in your inventory looking for it while standing on a hurtfloor.

>>5783014
At least in something like Trailblazer, you can turn it off and on at times.
The Edge of Time had it when if you press it, it starts kicking the effect for a while like the original item worked.
Doesn't help that when i'm out of radsuits, they don't even show up in the inventory with a (0) just so i know where they're placed.

should I pirate the original Doom 3 or is are there any good mods I can use to fix the BFG edition?

what if doom eternal referenced the rpg games?

Fistful of Doom is really cool but
>Key doors aren't colored
>Keys aren't displayed in your HUD
fucking why

Hippity hoppity
Doomguy turned into a monstrosity

>>5783065

>>5783058

Are there any other super-arcadey FPS games like Reelism?

anyone got the full res of this image?

Only on episode 1 or heretic. It fucking rules.

The amount of items is cool. I love how you kill the "imp" enemies and they fucking gib and their soul slips out. Anyone got a gif of that?

The level design is great. The levels wrap around in such smart ways. You'll have to return to lots of areas you've already been to but they're designed in such a way it's free flowing and isn't a chore. You will open a door and return to a previous area but with a new path. It isn't a chore where you need to trek back. And they throw enemies at you. I'm really liking this.

What do you guys think of Heretic?

>>5783089
>5 seconds in google

>>5783101
somebody upload that on the booru, the downsized version got uploaded instead

>>5783096
I've got nothing better to do, I'll crack open the WAD and make a gif

How do I run Quake 1.5 on windows 10. I've been able to launch it successfully and I can see the demo gameplay just fine but when I start a new game the screen is just black.

>>5783058
What wad?

>>5783125
you broke something lol

>>5783096
turns out the body and soul are separate sprites, and I couldn't get the exact timing, so I made this webm
Heretic is pretty neat, it's got some issues of its own, but it's a nice change of pace from Doom

>>5783117
Based and wad pilled

>>5783135
Golden souls 3 demo

>>5783143
It is cool just how carbon copy it is from Doom yet also carves slight tweaks to make it unique.

Like the weapons are direct copies of doom like there the obvious chainsaw/gloves, staff/pistol, shotgun/crossbow, chaingun/dragon claw etc but yet it also has unique qualities at the same time.

>>5783150
Cool thanks it looks neat

>>5783154
The most awesome thing I liked about it was that gun that when used in conjunction with the tome of power conjured an area of red rain. And of course the bouncing steel balls.

Is there a table breaking down each and every release of Doom across consoles and builds and breaks down the changes? I want to know the level changes in the Android/Iphone versions.

>>5781180
Oh shit I only just realized I had all of the Jedi Knight games plus the original Dark Forces. What're the optimal ways to play them if there are any source ports or the like?

For some reason Golden Souls 2 lags and frameskips like crazy for me. Any idea why? I have a decent PC and this has never happened with any other mod.

>>5783218
I was just playing that on the latest version of GZDoom
GTX 750Ti and i3 4160
What's your specs and GZDoom version?

goldeneye is more influential than movie life. Prove me wrong hlcucks.

>>5783226
Version 4.1.2

Ryzen 1600 and GTX 1060

It's weird I have never had this problem before but it's literally unplayable

Post your Quakespasm controls don't know if I'm doing this right

>>5783234
i'm on version 4.1.3 so try that i guess

It always weirds me out how Half-Life gets credited with introducing scripted set pieces when GoldenEye is chock full of them. The entire showdown against 006 is a scripted sequence complete with banter. The game literally recreates the bottling room scene from the room complete with:
"One half of everything is luck..."
"And the other half?"
*Alarms blare*
"Fate."
Then the Russians storm the room and Alec is surrounded. He surrenders and they "execute" him after a countdown. This is accompanied by dialogue between the characters.

All HL really did was do the "seamless transition" thing that Quake II did a year earlier.

Hlbabies will deny this.

>>5783176
I'd lick those soles and suck those toes

>>5783297
Or how about the part where you meet 006 again alive and have to meet him unarmed in that weird night level with all the big art sculptures everywhere.

>>5782917
SWGDX soon hopefully

zoomers still think hl is more influential than goldeneye, sad.
Hl only casualized fps gaming.

>System Shock
Aged like shit, awful to play nowadays
>Goldeneye 64
Aged like shit, awful to play nowadays
>Half Life
Aged like wine, still plays great

There you go shitposter.

>System Shock
>Aged like shit, awful to play nowadays
ok brainlet.
Both goldeneye and ss1 were more innovative than shit life.

Name one innovative and positive thing hl brought to gaming.

>>5783326
okay but Half Life is 100x more fun to play than both of those games lmao you lose faggot

>>5783318
I declare that this general is now property of us HL Chads

>>5783154
The Firemace is nowhere remotely near being comparable to the BFG though.

>linear cinematic game
>fun
kys.

>>5783302
same tee bee aitch

>>5783331
I mean I don't think Half-Life is the best game ever but come on.

the reason why hl was hated.

>>5783340
I thought HL was neat but this ad is a bit exaggerated.
>run, stop, hear soldiers flanking you
wait and listen to HECU soldiers randomly shout at each other and toss nades, or just bumrush them and fuck them up
>lead scientist to retinal scanner
more like, run to the scanner and watch as the scientist slowly walks up to the door
>loot enemy corpse
what? you mean picking up their weapon? like in almost every other FPS?
cut power lines
don't remember this
>turn on flashlight
WOW!
>sneak past four-story alien
tentacle encounters were boring
>break through window
WOW!
>surprise squad of soldiers
ok

I haven't been here in months and now the threads look like this?

These are mean to be focused DOOM threads, instead it's this disorganized jumble with no direction. I can see making them ID shooter threads but all the other "retro FPS" should just have their own threads, this board has room for them.

As you can see>>5783347
hl was considered mediocre by gaming enthusiasts even back then.

>>5783357
lol fuck off, this is the retro FPS general, it's on you if you can't handle people discussing things

>>5783302
Yeah man honestly I wouldn't mind her feet in my mouth

>>5783357
It's mostly shitposters trying to bring down everything, but one or two really persistent HL posters.

>>5783357
If you want to talk about Doom, then talk about Doom.

>>5783357
Its just one faggot who hates HL and is extremely autistic about it

Report and ignore.

>>5783368
Why can’t they just go back to /v/? That’s where they belong.

Why you can't admit hl is mediocre and that it did nothing new?
Why you hate masterpieces like ss1?

>>5783371
Reported a bunch and mods did shit

Next you will say doom 3 was a good game.

GZDoom 4.1.3
Why does the level select for Reelism cut off at the bottom, unless you go into windowed mode or go into windowed mode back into fullscreen

This plasma replacement in Strain looks like something right out of looney tunes.

>>5783393
nigga why you playin as a skeleton

>>5783430
put the only bathroom behind it

Get a load of PIC RELATED

>>5783392
>Why does the level select for Reelism c
Because Graf Zahl is a primma donna son of a bitch piece of shit coder that "fixes" what's not broken, hence breaking it. (He fucked up the resolution thing because he hates crisp pixels, anything has to be super fucking aliased to please his chicken shit brain.)

Go back to the 3.x versions, they are still arround.

>>5783442
>Incels like 3D games and injecting heroin into their penises

>>5783442
>2010
>JFK Reloaded it's his 3D best example

Fuck off my hl posts were serious.

>>5783417
that's the modified hud for Strain, its kinda neat but I think many things about this aren't running correctly in gz. In a compendium wad I have it had none of the weapon replacements but downloading and running the strainfix.wad itself broke the animations that the faster imps had. decided on playing it with its alternative arsenal cause it changes the shotgun, bfg, and plasma but it limits you to 100 cells and the plasma has a terrible windup time. Fun enough for 1998 or whenever the fuck it was when this thing came out though I guess.

>>5783459
It's hard to take a clown seriously.

>>5783450
>Hating Graf Zahl this much
There seems to be a growing dislike for him. What I don't understand is why people don't go to something comparable, like Doomsday, which has far superior particle systems, for instance. There is no reason Doomsday couldn't support essential things like Decorate, UDMF, or ZScript in the future, especially with the addition of a talented new coder or two.

>>5783442
I love reading stupid shit like this. tickles the retard side of my sense of humor just right.

Valve games are stolen mods.

>>5783468
welcome to a large community where if someone thinks they can do better, they just try to make a brand spanking new source port that doesn't contribute shit to the community at large and ultimately wastes valuable talent

>>5783468
Doomsday, Risen3D, JDoom and ports like them have a bad rep because of those horrific 3D models and "modern" effects. More people should start looking into 3DGE or Eternity.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5783459
I'm Gabe Newell, you should buy and play HL1 and HL2 and shut the fuck up! Angry boy.

>>5783492
See>>5783471

> hl anon 24/7

>>5783516
Keep seething and coping, angry autist boy.
I'm profiting and you don't.
Fucking poorfag mentally ill angry loser.

>>5783518
Guys, don't tease HL-anon that much.
HL-anon is like the Barisaku-kun incel arsonist guy that killed those 35 people in kyoto japan.
He'll stop only after somebody will taking him seriously. You all know what I mean.

PIC RELATED

I really fucking hate the rapid response times of the Kriegsland 1&2 enemies, but they work surprisingly well with CoD weapons and a little slow Custom Doom health regen. Pure carnage as most enemies deal chip damage but will tear your health to shreds if you're exposed long enough and/or lose your armor.

anyone else lagging like it's going out of style on the Golden Souls 3 demo

>>5783534
what's your source port?

>>5783536
latest GZDOOM

>>5783534
This post just made me go and download the first Golden Souls, never played it. Should I play with jumping on and freelook or is it fine to play it classically?

>>5783547
>wad is inspired by Mario
>should I play with jumping
Nigga.

>>5783547
you definitely want freelook and jumping. the platforming only gets better in the second one too. you're in for a treat my man

>>5783548
>>5783553
yea dumb question, I got to the mansion in the first level and had to jump to get in hurr

>>5783554
what mod is this gondola from

>>5783561
no idea I found it on the booru

>>5783563
ah, it would've been neat to have one of those companion mods but with a little gondola with hops around with you

What is your guys favorite weapon? Can be from any game of mod. Mines probably the double barreled shotty from High Noon Drifter.

>>5783492
can you count to 3?

>>5783450
>>5783468
>>5783472
So what.....is GZDoom not being made anymore?

>>5783571
Smaller caliber? The Dakka pistols.
Big guns? Project brutality's BFG.
Throwable? UAC survival pack's grenades.

>>5783065
>digitigrade

>>5783561
Lt. Typhon

>>5783580
It's still getting updates. The problem is that a number of people are disgruntled with the all-over-the-place inconsistency of what's updated, combined with removals and changes that happen arbitrarily and fuck with people's projects without any warning.

>>5783572
Can you count up to billions?

>>5783580
That picture is from a bitch fit Graf Zahl had back in 2010.
This tale is old as fuck, man.

Valve would be dead if Digipen closed or decided to exert IP ownership over their students projects

>>5783602
>Valve would be dead
Well, it's not and will not be in a long time.
Keep crying us a river until then, hl-anon.

I hate hlfags and hl so fucking much.

>>5783580
It's old drama from 2010.
Feature creep and breaking fixed things, mixed with that attitude from the users, like GZDoom and Graf are irreplaceable is what keeps feeding it.

>>5783615
>I hate hlfags and hl so fucking much.
And that's why we call you "hl-anon".
Because you hate yourself that much too.
So keep having Half-Life living rent-free in your mind 24/7, sperglord.

Valve is the Dunning Kruger game studio

the gaben trip gimmick is not funny

>>5782514
>Why does the Half-Life shittalker always spam his shit completely unprovoked?
Because of a mental illness.
Monomania is a symptom only.

Thank you, non doom posters, for your quality contributions to this thread. It was not a mistake at all for the prosperity and generosity of the doom community that you were let in here.

>>5783649
It's funny because triggers you so easy. You're a mentally ill schizo masochist, OCD bitching about a decades old video game that mostly nobody talks about in these generals.

HL-anon writes 8 words average, obsessed with a single theme.
My guess is this guy hadn't taken his crazy-pills lately. Probably a schizo with big holes in his brain tissue by now, his only memories being when boomers bitched about Half-life back then.

If you don't like it, keep reporting his posts, and if you use IRC, tell a jannie about this loco.

P.S. For the record I even haven't played Half-Life, neither 1 nor 2, and I'm not planning on playing it in the near future. I couldn't care less.

>>5783615
have you considered that:
your incessant spam about it has led to a surge of discussion on the topic, thus giving it more popularity

>>5783687
>have you considered
Probably he has not.
I never see half-life mentioned in the retro fps generals, hah, and this guy gives it free publicity all the time.
Probably he's a Valve paid shill, doing reverse psychology marketing.

>B-but guys, you had to admit hl is mediocre and hated everywhere, and killed the fps genre, and steals IP and rapes babies.
I have never played it, how could I give my opinion on something I don't even know.

>>5783674
oh im not the spammer, your schtick is just equally as annoying

>>5783719
>feeding the trolls
Just report and ignore, retard.
Don't contribute to the quality lowering by feeding their in-fight, shitposter.

>>5783719
Stay annoyed, mein fren.

Doomerinos. What are some good gameplay for Zandronum 3?
I'm planning on having a Zandronum LAN party with a bud, and something that would be sprinkled over vanilla would be great. So far I have tried Brutal Lite Z edition, and Demonsteele 0.9.

>>5783058
walter

so uhhh... what happens if you accidentally load a save from a different mod in gzdoon