/vr/ - Retro Games

What other things should I run on these tiny b&w monitors? other than atari 2600

>>5761407
Game Boy and other monochrome handhelds.

<---- me thinking about the thousands of amazing HD CRT televisions being thrown in the dump because hyper-autists on the internet told everyone that 2 frames of lag is the end of the fucking world

<---- me thinking about the thousands of great HD CRT televisions being thrown in the dump because hyper-autists on the internet told everyone that 2 frames of lag is the end of the fucking world

How much have you anons spent for your CRT collection? What’s the most you paid for a CRT?

>>5761515
Total of $280 for a Toshiba 36A60 circa 2007. Bought it from a surplus option, turned out to be broken, and had to pay for repairs. Worth every cent.

>>5761468
Can you sell me on HD CRTs? What advantages does it have over modern screens? The input lag is a bummer, I remember trying to play shadow hearts on one and hitting the sweet spot timings was impossible

>>5761515
probably around $300 but i have over 15 of them.

>>5761515
Never paid, own 4 CRTs

>>5761668
Every advantage people talk about re: CRTs is represented the strongest in them other than lag and rendition of 240p scanlines.

So color, contrast, black level, "3d effect", response time, etc are all exceedingly good. With tweaking via service menu this is further magnified from factory settings.

There is even an effect called "micro contrast" that is my own form of lunacy that possibly gives the image the je ne sais quoi that is not seen with other technology.

Lag is worse when they are fed a non-native signal, as it would likely have been with Shadow Hearts (a 480i game).

Amateur NTSC calibration 101
Requirements: a way to display SMPTE color bars (i.e. 240p test suite), blue only mode/ability to turn off individual color guns on set, or blue gel filter

Color/chroma: enter blue only mode and adjust first and last color bars (grey and blue) until the grey and blue evenly blend together

Tint/hue: again in blue only mode, adjust cyan/magenta bars until they evenly blend with the above/below colors

Black level/brightness: lower brightness till three strips of black in lower right (PLUGE) all fade to black. Turn up brightness until the far right bar becomes visible

White level/contrast: lower brightness all the way and turn up until white box warps/blooms/distorts

As a beginner looking to buy a PVM, is there any way I can familiarize myself with it before I make my first purchase? Also, would $100 be ideal for a 20 incher? Thanks in advance for the help.

>>5761451
I can't think of too many beyond that one anon but your assistance is appreciated.

>>5761908
At that price you'd better be patient and diligent, or live in socal. Wouldn't hurt to brush up on soldering. "broken" ones are usually a pretty easy fix.

>>5761908
In my opinion a 20" CRT is just not big enough.

>>5761924
>>5761919
I'm currently using a slightly delineated 9 inch RF only CRT that I paid for $100 because I was a fucking idiot who didn't know much about market values for used CRT's. Anything is an upgrade for me at this point.

>>5762008
You could just try calling up studios and seeing what they are willing to give away. I've had pleanty of luck and am trying to at least ensure these things don't get recycled.
If you don't care for the professional aspect just go on craigslist or fb market place. people give away crts on there all the time.

>>5762072
I'll try that anon, although I don't think they carry them anymore. My hopes of finding a PVM in good condition out in the concrete wild is slimming by the day.

>>5761924
You sit closer to it. 27 and above are more likely to have more issues. The types that make retro games look like wavy shit.

Had to have this shipped after an event I did. UPS clearly dropped it more than a few times. Anyone know directly what is wrong with this. UPS is probably going to cover it for insurance, but I really don't want to replace a few hundred dollar monitor.

It is a 21 inch viewsonic P8 series pc monitor. Picture was perfect but now it clearly has this strange color issue going on. Although I have worked on some CRTs, usually it was nothing looking like this.


It is hard to see because of the photo, but the purple bar on top right is the most obvious. The rest of the screen is also sort of tinted in random spots (the ones on the left are icons under the transparent UI) but even on the left it is discolored.

Thanks homies.

>>5762669
Oh, lol, of course I tried all of the settings for degaus and shit. I also tried to leave it unplugged for a while and both dsub/bnc and several computers and devices provide the same looking color issues.

>>5762669
It sounds silly but you might just have to fix it by degaussing it regularly. I got a TV a while back with some funky rainbow-shit going on in the corner and it eventually fixed just by degaussing every time it turned on. Don't give up dawg.

These were going for less than 10 burger cents a piece on Tao Bao.

>>5761407
sauce on those tiddies

>>5762990
Monster Musume

What is it with boomers thinking composite CRT’s are worth 100 bucks on ebay?

>>5763124
>Ask for a ridiculous price
>Idiot offers 50% of the price
>Accept
>Idiot thinks he's got a good deal

>Don't offer a ridiculous price
>Idiot still offers 50% anyway
>Decline

>>5763124
not really idiot boomers selling at a high price, more of idiot zoomers paying at a high price. Also, shipping a CRT is somewhere in the 50-80 dollar range due to there weight, so that justifies the price.

Just got myself a PVM-14L5. I am enjoying it immensely.

Wondering how I should sell off the PVM-14M4 that I no longer need.

>>5762669
shadow mask might be deformed mate, it's game over

>>5761391
comfy

>>5761204
The talentless art fags who take all these monitors and burn them in to hell for the sake of producing nothing of value bring me so much nostalgic joy.

>>5761468
Are you the guy from the other thread who kept trying to convince OP that he scored a real gem when he picked up that hulking 36" of near-useless 60ms-of-lag-producing 15khz-less behemoth? You prince.

>>5762654
>27 and above are more likely to have more issues
This is FUD. Just an exaggeration of opinions posted over the years by users who have owned several CRTs and say "large CRTs generally have worse geometry". That got twisted over the years into some notion that this meant to avoid large CRTs.

When people say large CRTs have worse geometry that means on a grid pattern you will see what warping exists more easily due to the size, and there is a significant increase in some cases. What this does not mean is that the large CRTs are broke or useless or whatever. Turn off the grid pattern and actually go to watching or playing content and you never notice.

There's also some FUD that large units are more likely to have broken solder joints and circuit boards. While this would have to be true from a physical point of view due to the cross-sectional strength of the materials involved, there no reason to think any large unit is a ticking bomb ready to quit on you. Especially if it is a professional grade CRT. Those were built to be moved often. If I found a big CRT that I liked I wouldn't even think about this notion that they are less reliable.

>>5763124
A good CVM is worth $100 imo.

>>5763509
>Wondering how I should sell off the PVM-14M4 that I no longer need.
Anon...how much are you planning on selling it for?

>>5763924
Yeah but the majority of these are composhit portables meant for kitchens and backyard parties. I suppose it's like >>5763163 and >>5763258 said, one boomer's trash is another zoomer's treasure.

BVMs are cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8koROb2o72I

>>5764606
>composhit
Stop

>>5764634
Stop what? The truth?

>>5763906
If you were old enough you would have experienced the issue with large sets out of the box. Even more you would have seen how much worse large sets ages. Stop pushing lies.

"Pro crt"... "Large"

Fucking comical.

>>5764730
quit larping and quit acting like you know anything.

>>5764652
Stop using cringe-worthy terms like composhit.

>>5764730
>If you were old enough
If a post starts with this sentence you can safely disregard the rest.

>>5763906
>Turn off the grid pattern and actually go to watching or playing content and you never notice.
Or notice every time the screen scrolls and wish you had gone with a smaller rounder tube.

>>5765152
That does not happen.

Anyone here have any experience with sony trinitron kv-t25sz8?
I'm considering picking one up today. Bummer that there's no RGB but I would like to know if it's nice anyway.

why are you niggers buying high end CRT when the games were designed for shitty tvs in average households?

>>5765407
It just depends on how much you're paying for it, and what you plan to do with it. If it's in excellent condition it would be worth about $50.

>>5765479
I'm giving around 200 SEK (around 20 dollars). All I plan to do is play SNES, gamecube and PS2.

>>5765585
It certainly is worth that unless it's in bad condition, it's a nice tube. Shame about it only having composite but I'd pick it up for that, better than some tiny PVM.

>>5765519
what model is this? looks good.

>>5765519
We are approaching unheard of levels of SOUL.

Is it possible at all to get s video from a pal wii?

>>5765468
Because it looks better. You would say the same if you compared the two.
>inb4 but muh developers intended

>>5763801
These were 'sonictron' aperture grille monitors.

I just replaced a power cord to a 32 inch Toshiba. 2002 or 2003 model. Not a flat screen.

It has the slightest darkening mid left and right. Noticeable on white screens easily, harder on other colors but still there. This isn't something degaussing would fix, is it? I don't even know where my coil is anymore, lol.

Forgot to take picture earlier when I had it on.

>>5765468
For the same reason Ferrari, Audi, Porsche, Merc, etc sell cars for 100k+. They are better.

For the same reason you can get a $5000 headphone setup. It is better.

For the same reason we pay $3.50 for your mom, but $4.20 for your sister. Sis is better.

>>5765810
No. If you have a pal wii, why would you NOT use scart/rgb? Or at least component?

>>5765723
>muh soul
Opinion discarded.
>>>/v/

>>5765585
It's my understanding good CRTs are harder to find in Sweden, so I would not pass this up.

you want soul?
How about this 40" Sony RPTV?

>>5766486
>Bose
bro...

>>5766176
>implying one should care how your opinions are received on a tibetan singing bowl forum.

Whew lad.

Dont' fall for the SCART meme.

>>5766543
This post is hilarious,

You are like the retard banging the drum that comes back every 4-8 minutes in a movie. The first 7-800 times no one laughs, but damn did I laugh at you this time.

>>5766523
bose is soul

>>5766153
My tv only has s video unfortunately

thinking about picking this one up, is it any good?
sony KV-32LS60E
i dont think its a hdcrt because it only has scart

>>5766486
>Rear projection
bro...

>>5766486
>Bose
>VHS
>No LaserDisc
All that shit better be hooked up through RF to keep the 'soul' thing consistent.

>>5766785
No? What's the point of a widescreen TV for retro games anyway?

>>5766486
almost want

>>5766858
widescreen games? 6th gen had tons of them and a crt is still the best way to play that generation.

>>5766785
I think that is a 100hz EDTV.

Good? Well... that depends on your goal. Do you want this for the standard /vr/ 240p original hardware gaming? If so there are better choices.

>>5766858
Outside of /vr/ rule-fagging the PS2 is becoming considered retro.

What's a good source of RGB BNC cables?

>>5766917
ebay

Most overrated CRT?
Most underrated?

>>5766932
fw900, d32/d24, or 14l5/20l5

high pitch tridot monitors

>>5766858
You know widescreen sets can also do 4:3 just fine, right? I personally like my bigger sets to be widescreen, so I can use them both for playing games and watching films.
>>5766785
Depends on the price. And beware: You'll need someone else to pick that monster up. There's no way a single person can lift one of those. Not because of the weight, but because of its distribution.
>>5766932
>Most overrated CRT?
GDM-FW900. It started getting memed on /g/ a long time ago because it was a really nice display for the price (free), then Reddit picked it up and overhyped the fuck out of it.
>Most underrated?
Anything with a DiamondTron tube, especially the LaCie ElectronBlue series. Some models absolutely wipe the floor with Trinitron tubes.

>>5766983
>Anything with a DiamondTron tube, especially the LaCie ElectronBlue series. Some models absolutely wipe the floor with Trinitron tubes.
lol, the good diamondtrons are already starting to get hyped up. they're anything but underrated, especially the 2070sb.

>>5767002
Well fuck me sideways then. I've been out of the loop for quite a while. Didn't think bugmen would notice those, I thought they went after Trinitrons only.

>>5766932
>Underrated
-NEC, JVC, Ikegami, and Mitsubishi monitors of all kinds.
-Color Video monitors with only s-video and composite inputs.
-RCA Colortrak, Dimensia, Lyceum and other 80s composite video televisions.

>Overrated
-any CRT under 13". Especially 9" PVMs. People buy them as fashion accessories to make social media posts.
-PVM 2530 and 2730. The obscene ebay rate is ridiculous because they do nothing a consumer trinitron with component/RGB SCART can't do 99% as well.
-BVM series, only because they occasionally get called "the ultimate" CRT. Ultimate is a matter of taste and I think the super thick razor sharp scanline look is highly overrated.

How can I easily convert s-video to component ypbpr in a way that preserves 240p?

Pardon the ignorance, but should I not overlook getting a CRT computer monitor? I've only been focusing on CRT television monitors.

>>5767130
Why do you want to do this?

>>5767176
>I've only been focusing on CRT television monitors.
What lead you in this direction?

>>5767213
I have a TV with component input but not s-video input. I'd like to use it for PSX, SNES, and N64.

>>5767226
lmao, lemme guess, sony? Kramer FC-404 is the only device i know of which does this conversion, but extron or key digital might have made something in the past.

>>5767239
>lmao, lemme guess, sony?
Samsung actually.
Apparently some samsungs are easy to RGB mod but I'm hesitant to try on my only CRT.

>>5766983
>GDM-FW900.
Best PC Crt ever made. Hands down. Anyone who says otherwise is a poorfag who is buttfrustrated that they didn't get one while the getting was good. I got mine in 2001, and have been enjoying 120hz+ gaming since then. Be frustrated, but at least admit it is because you are impotent, and it has nothing to do with a CRT.

>>5767260
Here's your (You)

>>5767340
he is right

>>5767216
the PVMemes mostly

>>5767340
>(You)
>>5767356
>he is right
pic related.

>>5767260
>121Khz
>best PC CRT

i pray that everyone keeps riding the sony baloney pony so that mitsubishis, eizos and nokias stay cheap

>>5767393
>stay cheap
It's already too late for high-KHz sets in general.

>>5767392
>vertical monitor for le koding fridays
>intellimeme
>uses a mushy as fuck rubberdome board just because it has bright colors and has an IBM logo
>smoker
You need to go back.

>>5767392
based

>>5767412
I thank you for your jealousy, and enjoy the salty taste of your tears.

>>5767423
>Can't buy a decent camera
>Buys a pass

>>5767252
>RGB modding a TV with component input

>>5767260
The only thing that separates it from a dozen other units is the 16:10 aspect ratio.

>>5767404
except it's not? normies only care about WEGAs and people who think they're "in the know" only care about sony.

>>5767372
Are you interest in playing games, or in having a set-piece to photograph for your i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶g̶r̶a̶m̶ battlestation thread?

>>5767436
There are more retro consoles that output RGB than YPbPr

>>5767439
>normies only care about WEGAs
Normies think WEGAs suck because 'intendo gaems don't look gud on them

>>5767446
The point is RGB can be near loss-lessly converted to component so just buy an external converter box and leave the TV in peace.

>>5767439
Sorry, buddy, but times have changed. Reddit found out and is bringing a swift death to cheap high-end monitors.

>>5767424
>Irrelevant argument is irrelevant
Please, continue.

>>5767437
>The only thing that separates it from a dozen other units is the 16:10 aspect ratio.
And its an amazing upsell that most people cannot afford.

>>5767450
whatever you say pal. go find an e-waste facility and tell me again how rare and expensive they are.

>>5767493
why not sell it and use the proceeds on a 2070sb, a vastly superior monitor, if value is the only redeeming factor you can come up with?

>>5767496
>why not sell it and use the proceeds on a 2070sb

Why would I want to give up the godly viewing ratio?

>dude my monitor cost a lot of money lmao
stop

>>5767513
>muh 16:10
was somehow hoping you had more to bank on
enjoy your 121khz and G2 drift

>>5767529
>enjoy your 121khz and G2 drift
Its a joy you cannot even begin to know. I used windas years ago with a calibration kit, and it still looks amazing. 1280x800@ 120hz is almost nauseating at how smooth things look. Sorry you are missing out.

>>5767553
ok friend, sure am crying over here with 1024x768@160hz and 1600x1200@100hz

>>5767571
>ok friend, sure am crying over here with 1024x768@160hz and 1600x1200@100hz
That sounds really beautyful as well. I had an IBM 22" trinitron years ago that I loved, and like a fool put it out to the garbage when I got the GDM. I do recall similar frequency from it as well. It sounds amazing. As for the GDM, it does hit 140hz @ 1280x800, but I had one game (non-retro/60hz) that just didn't seem to run correctly that way, and found 120hz more than acceptable, so I never changed from it. I would guess that both my monitor and yours are very similar in quality, but mine has a slightly lower frequency due to the larger real estate. Take it easy, and don't get so frustrated. I don't know what it is about my old desktop photo, but man it drives /vr/ crazy. They always go after the exact same things also. It is somewhat funny to me, so I just keep dropping it. Thanks for the laughs!

>>5767493
>most people cannot afford.
Guess how we know you're a broke-ass college student or NEET?

>>5767623
>Guess how we know you're a broke-ass college student or NEET?
That would be a typical and total misrepresentation of the truth, and 4chan is great at doing it. Please continue. Tell me all about it.

>>5767571
When I had a CRT projector I played some racing games on it in 1280x960@100hz. On a 80" screen.
It was nice but wasn't nearly the mind-blowing experience I wanted it to be.

I have an old workstation monitor that will do 1024x768@100hz. Would probably do 1280x800 if I tried (with incorrect ratio or squeezed raster "letterboxing"). It is indeed very smooth playing new games like Doom on that.

FW900 sure is a nice monitor and I'd love to have one, but what it can do for me vs what say... a 34XBR960 could do for me is a pretty big difference. I've owned one in the past and really miss it. Miss it more than the GDM-5410 I used to own (it developed g2 drift and was damaged in storage).

>>5767626
The last two that sold on ebay were $80 and $350. For people who are working jobs that pay better than minimum wage this is a cheap toy.

In other hobbies $1000 isn't even enough to get your foot in the door. In CRTs it's enough to get you "god-tier" performance.

For me it's Mitsubishi ™

>>5767641
>The last two that sold on ebay were $80 and $350
Plus shipping. I had my second GDM shipped to me. I payed well over 150 for shipping....and it still didn't arrive in one piece. I picked up this one in 2001 at a going out of business sale of an architectural firm an hour from my house. For $100 I got one, and my friend got one. He has since lost his, but that is how life goes. They were dirt cheap back then, and the owner appreciated the cash. In 2019, I would never consider buying one. Not at the prices they want, knowing how many hours are on it. Getting a good one will cost you over $600+ shipping easily, and there is no guarantee of the usage. I know Uncle Vito sometimes comes across new ones, but he has people that get them first. He is the only person in the USA I would trust when looking for one. You will pay a premium, but you will get exactly what you paid for.

>>5767649
I've been trying to find one of these for years but every time I get a line on one the guy decides to keep it.

>>5767663
If I wanted one all I would do is put up a thread on Neo-geo, shmups, or BYOAC and make a generous offer. The sellers on there know what they have and would pack it properly.

>>5767676
>If I wanted one all I would do is put up a thread on Neo-geo, shmups, or BYOAC and make a generous offer.
My concern at this point is the age & usage, not the physical appearance. One thing that is certain is that these monitors specifically fail. It really takes a special person to maintain them with windas and a color calibration kit. The best of their years are long behind them, and in a way if you didn't have the opportunity to enjoy it over the last 20 years, it is pretty much too late to start. IF I was shopping for a high quality CRT today, I would take the best one I could find, and I would make a list of a few models, none of which would be a sony unless I could totally verify that it was truly taken care of more than just dusted off occasionally. Uncle Vito is a regular over at [H]ard OC, and I don't know what he did for a living, but he always has these in stock, and usually has parts. The internet is blowing its collective load on PVMs right now, so PC monitors are last years meme.

>>5767694
You're overstating this issue. I have owned several Sony PC monitors the last few years and they were all fine other than the brightness problem, which is correctable. And some of them never had it at all.
The existing FW900s will continue to work for years to come.
>I could totally verify that it was truly taken care of more than just dusted off occasionally.
This is literally you have to do. Other than keep the monitor out of the elements. Will color drift out of perfect reference levels over time? Yes. But then you can just put them right back.

>>5767742
You are more of a risk taker than I am....but by the same token, if I saw a nice looking CRT monitor at a local sale, I would buy it if the price was right, but I wouldn't be spending more than what I would for a parts monitor. I would love to find a 22" that was in decent shape, but they are getting more and more rare to see at yardsales and auctions. Another minor issue is that we are getting to the point where contemporary gpus need an external DAC. I don't know when ATI did away with it, but I have a GTX980ti just to tide me over for the next decade. The external DACs seem to be hit or miss on high refresh rates. Some work, and some don't work as well, and it can vary from product to product and even individual runs of the same item.

>>5761204
BUY A FLAT SCREEN YOU OLD NIGGERS

>>5766149
if you wanted it to look "better" then why not use a newer LCD or plasma screen?

>>5767994

>>5767994
>BUY A FLAT SCREEN YOU OLD NIGGERS
I have a Samsung TX-R2035, and it looks really good. Crisp, and clean.

>>5767393
The only sets that stay cheap are shit. Anything worth itself isn't going cheap.

>>5766764
Ouch. If you live in an area with NTSC standards, maybe import a NTSC wii.

>>5768016
That is where the 'opinion' comes in. Not everyone thinks my A8L is the best full sized luxury sedan. Some go with Merc or BMW even when the alternatives are lacking features or slower or uglier. Sometimes it is indoctrinated beliefs and sometimes it is fact. Sometimes it is even the price.

My car new off the lot is $119,000 sticker price (in-service date price)

I paid $74,000 when it was 2 years old with 5k miles. Not a single car comes close to as loaded for that price or with such an insane warranty. Even my fiancees Model S is not nearly as nice. Resell is still well above where my principle+interest would be if I didn't buy outright.

>>5765407

lol, where is the scart socket?

>reply to craigslist add the day it goes up
>seller doesn't respond to me for three days despite my continued messaging
>fourth day he finally responds and tells me he sold it
FUCK where am I going to find a 16:9 HDMI capable CRT now??

>>5765810
yes, change the region through homebrew.

>>5767994
I have and it’s awful.

>>5767443
Playing games and watching movies. So is are computer monitors worth looking into or not?

>>5768497
If you plan on watching movies and playing games with a PC, then it's a good choice. Otherwise, even a nice consumer set might suit your needs better.

>>5768183
Disregard HDMI, it's really not that useful on an HD CRT, just use component. (Or DVI is fine too)

>>5768502
The problem I have with consumer sets is that the chassis is usually worn out or kept in bad condition while also being overpriced despite being composite only. I know cosmetics shouldn’t be an issue, but for me it is if it’s going to be displayed 24/7.

>>5768513
>The problem I have with consumer sets is that the chassis is usually worn out or kept in bad condition while also being overpriced despite being composite only.
Well you may be happy to know that there's a considerable portion of consumer sets that don't fall into those categories. Try visiting thrift stores and limiting online listings by price to find a good deal.

>>5761515
A 27" consumer Trinitron for $10. Got it because it had inputs for all the standard North American analog video formats. I just got an older 19" Zenith TV for free. Has s-video and composite inputs and outputs.

S-video on a consumer trinitron is all you need

>>5768597
Yup, I agree with this.

>>5761515
0€

>>5761515
Zippo, found a KV-20FS100 Trinitron on the side of the road walking to a bday party, dropped all plans and lugged the thing back home and service menu'd it to perfection

Funny thing is I came to find out a couple of weeks later that the middleaged fellow that works graveyard at the corner store down the block put it out since he got a PS4 and it didn't have HDMI. His loss.

>>5761924
I've got a 20" and honestly I think it's the perfect combination of not puny but not so big I might hurt myself moving it up and down the stairs if I want to have game night in the livingroom.

any way to convert component to RGB SCART?

>>5768591
cute chubby cat

>>5768135
sounds like commie relativism trying to legitamize something that is objectively dumb.

>>5768515
Thanks, I’ll try my luck there and see if something good pops up. I guess I need to be more patient.

Anyone know how to adjust this convergence problem? Green is shifted to the left on the right side of the screen. H-STAT, V-STAT, convergence rings?

>>5769085
fucking pic rotated but you get the idea

Dumb question but if I already have a Analogue Super NT there's no real point in using a CRT right?

Pic unrelated

>>5768135
Lmoa dude, you got issues.

>>5769112
That's correct

>>5768597
This is actually true.

>>5768183
Just keep looking. One will turn up again on craigslist soon enough. Have patience, my friend.

>>5768508
These are still fairly common and cheap, so anon can afford to be picky. Just wait until a unit shows up with both the Super Fine Pitch tube and HDMI output (XBR960 and XS955 iirc).

But don't waste too much time either. I believe the opinion is changing on these CRTs and the good ol' days of scoring premium units for nothing won't last a lot longer. Maybe year or two before sixth gen nostalgia really starts to kick up.

>>5768513
>The problem I have with consumer sets is that the chassis is usually worn out or kept in bad condition while also being overpriced despite being composite only.
No, your problem is you hold this belief which is not true. Just find a component TV in a vendor mall or thrift store. The idea that the chassis will be worn out/bad condition is balderdash. Don't worry about it beyond taking an extension cord with you and testing it before buying.

>>5768597
>>5768608
>>5769137
Cope harder, amerilards.

There's someone selling a PVM 1340 for $125 but it's a 2 hour drive from where I live. Should I go for it?

>>5769193
50Hz

Do eurofags think PVM’s with RGB inputs are a rarity in the US?

>>5769497
I personally wouldn't bother unless you don't have a CRT and this is the only one that has been put up for sale in your area in the past few years.

>>5769513
>>5769518
Do ameritards not know that practically ALL European CRTs that aren't black and white have RGB inputs AND do 60 hz? A lot of the later sets will do composite NTSC and s-video as well.
The coping is off the charts here.

>>5769520
So is it like a lower end model which lacks things that other models have? I plan on pretty much just using it for my JP Saturn

>>5769528
It is, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. It is old though.
Add gas money to the price and you're not exactly looking at a bargain.. If it's in good shape, then maybe get it if you really want something small.

>>5769558
My family is going down to that area soon so I was thinking of tagging along with them just to save a bit on gas to get the monitor. It does seem to be in good shape, but I guess I'll see how I really feel about it before they leave

>>5769193
Make your point in plain English.

Anyone know of a place to get plugs for these little bastards? Need to adapt it to DB9.

>>5770102
I think you should be able to use a VTR cable flipped upside down, which you can then splice into and hack into your RGB cable.

>>5770136
It's the same connector, so yeah, I'm sure that would work. I just haven't had any luck finding a source for the damn things.

>>5769527
No they didn’t. And even so, the games were formatted for 50Hz.

>>5768597
>S-video on a consumer trinitron is all you need
Max comfy! S-video master race reporting! I currently have 5 systems plugged in via s-video, and I know somewhere a European is screaming and angry because of it.

>>5770149
I haven't either.

However, these connectors are nothing fancy. You can find a small piece of plastic, drill holes, and then glue in some pins to create a connector if you really have to.

Or do I what I would do: stick the wires directly into the holes until they make a good connection and then hot glue them in place with female BNC connectors on the other end.

Or take off the back and solder wires straight to the pins...

>>5770339
>Or take off the back and solder wires straight to the pins...
That's probably what I'm going to end up doing. I might even remove the EIAJ connector entirely and try to mount a DB9 in its place.

fuck yes dude.

24" KV-24FV300 for a good price and condition, is it any good?

>>5770153
>No they didn’t.
No they didn't what? Everything in that post is true. On top of that, a modded PAL SNES is the only console that will play the full SNES library.
>>5770205
My three PAL consumer sets and my PVM do RGB and S-video through SCART. And yes, I only play games in 60 hz except for PAL exclusives.

>>5770465
Should be fine, assuming the geometry isn't completely fucked. And if by good price you mean $20 tops and you don't have to drive far to get it.

>>5768597
picrel is my comfy ass S-video 27 inch Trinitron KV-27S42

>>5770417
Why DB9?

>>5770423

shouldna shown the location bud

>>5770702
dont worry i live there too

>>5766785
The LS line is very good anon. No 100hz, good menu etc and a very sharp tube. If you don't mind playing 4:3 games with borders it's a very respectable choice.

>>5770702
>>5770705
Fuck you guys, it's mine.

>>5770697
Because it's what both of my RGBI computers use, and it's easy to adapt to whatever else I might need in the future.

Maybe more /crt/ related than /vr/, but what are some good shows in 4:3 aspect ratio that are available on streaming sites? Pic related seems to be the only one on Netflix that fits the geometry of my CRT perfectly. Most old shows on streaming apps all end up looking letterboxed for 16:9 displays.

Which is better: composite or components?

>>5771208
Composite for 240p, component for not-/vr/ consoles because 480p is significantly better than 480i

KV 13M20

Composite looks great, but for a fun project anyway I could mod it for RGB?

>>5771185
Star Trek

>>5771185
my only recommendation is to source from DVDs, as they'll most likely be 4:3, streaming might be too difficult as they use "lowest common denominator" for a lot of things to make easier to stream for a larger audience

>>5771249
If you're stuck with 480i, then which one is the best?

>>5771292
Why would you be stuck with 480i? Wii can do 480p

>>5771296
I think it only shows the 480p option if it's connected through component. Pic related is what it should look like but the option for 480p is always greyed out since I'm only using composite.

>>5771185
Something is wrong on your end. 4:3 shows on something like an ipad fill the whole screen with both Netflix and Youtube, for two examples. Somewhere along your setup, Netflix or whatever, thinks you are using a 16:9 set and you should be able to figure it out.

Try an old episode of Trailer Park Boys on Netflix. Something 100% in 480i.

>>5771208
Always component. Is this bait?

>>5771261
Thanks, I forgot about ST.

>>5771332
I'm using the Roku model that supports 4:3 and composite inputs. After testing Trailer Park Boys, Star Trek, Cheers, and Twin Peaks, I think Netflix has all the 4:3 shows perfectly ratioed for CRT's. But when I go to the NBC app for Miami Vice, it's displaying widescreen bars along with some hueg as fuck sidebars, which ends up looking like a letterbox on a 4:3 CRT. >>5771263 is right, it seems to be an issue with appeasing the lowest common denominator.

>>5771392
I would guess, even with ipads and new phones ratios included, 1% of the population is using these apps with something other than 16:9.

How hard is it to find a decently priced PVM?

Well boys, wish me luck.

>>5771896
now buy a dreamcast

>>5771619
Not hard at all.

The best stuff is overpriced, even with consumer sets and pc crt. The best PVMs are the same.


As for the shitty stuff? All of it is reasonable in pricing or it never sells until it goes to reasonable prices. Or it is free.

So did the technology reach its peak or could it have continued to be developed and get even better? If some rich person wanted to start funding the development of new CRTs would they be able match the currently sold flat screens in terms of displaying modern kinos and games?
I know the only reason they were done away with is because LCDs and LEDs are easier to make, smaller, and the savings aren't passed on to the customer.
SED TVs was never sold because of a lawsuit.

Looking for a good component cable switch box with at least 4 inputs (pic related is a cheap variant). Anyone have any suggestions or experience with a particular model?

>>5772067
The only thing i want is less input lag. Imagine playing a shmup with 18ms of lag (maybe more), what a nightmare.

Is it safe to stack heavy monitors? I have 2 pvms im thinking about stacking. They seem pretty industrial and sturdy but i dont really want to risk either of them getting fucked up. One is a PVM-2030 and the other a N5u i think.

>>5772312
you run the risk of harmonic dissonance of the yokes if you do this, so i wouldn't.

>>5772316
thanks, i wont

>>5772232
Very good taste

How noticeable would the difference be between S Video and Pal RGB if I want to use my Gameboy player?

>>5772387
PAL gamecube doesn't support s-video. But there is difference, rgb scart is as sharp as it gets, but s-video isnt that bad. It really depends if you want sharp picture or noisy, but soulful picture.

Fixed up a 31kHz monitor I got from an old workplace and aside from a slight purple tinge that color adjustment just doesn't seem to nail, I'm pretty happy with it.

Wasn't able to find much info on the thing, it's an NCD NC1782AA. It has two channels and interestingly one is 5 BNCs for RGBHV on separate lines, which is handy. I'm concerned it isn't going to last long (or I don't understand CRTs) because there is an ever noticeable buzz coming from where the neckboard joins the tube, and the inside of that portion of the tube visibly glows when it's on.

>>5772452
>inside of that portion of the tube visibly glows when it's on.
this is the heater for the electron guns as they aren't emissive at lower temperatures. perfectly normal.

>>5772470
Good to know. This thing has been sitting around for a while, I'm glad I took another crack at it.

2 CRTs

>>5772678
I saw a free one on the road the other day, but I don't have the room for it.

>>5772678
>>5772680
>Listed over a week ago
rip

>>5772086
That's 3 inputs and one output.
Anyway, I got pic related and it's good enough for me. Been using it for about a year now and I haven't had any issues with it.

>>5772978
>That's 3 inputs and one output.
count again
but thanks, ill check it out

>>5773370
I stand corrected, and you're welcome.

Can anyone help me with the monitor that I just bought? (>>5771896) almost all colors seem to "smear" to the right. Anyone know a fix for this?

>>5773393
Put a magnet against the side of the TV for 30 seconds.
really don't, i would feel like a real cunt if you took that seriously

>>5773393
Bad cable or in need of degaussing. Loads of people were asking about this issue a while back and it was never confirmed if bad capacitors could be the issue, but in my experience it's always been a bad cable.

>>5773470
I've done it before, but I wanna see what other Anons think. Either way, its gonna have to wait because I have a broken collarbone at the moment and that 50lb beast is too heavy to lug around.

>>5773508
If that's the wire you're using it's almost certainly the wire. Get a heavy, well shielded wire and try that instead.

>>5773508
get a 20 buck VGA cable or a VGA box i think thats gonna solve all your problems

>>5773669
>>5773674
Different wire, different monitor. Sorry for making a confusing post. The monitor is actually the first post in This thread.

How do i fix geometry bros

Can someone post the picture of the bomberman saturn thin crt, I forgot if it's a jvc or panasonic.

>>5774297
NO DONT FUCKING DO IT. that monitor is too fucking nice and ruins me for at least a week every time i see it. FUCK, why do i come in here? i have enough monitors
its a panasonic

b-bomberman!?

>>5772678
Man, I want that pretty bad.

>>5774260
Read the service manual

What’s the absolute most I should pay for a 20 inch PVM in good condition? I don’t want to get ripped off.

>>5775570
$250 is what I would consider the upper limit for a PVM with a decent TVL count, RGB/Component, and S-Video.

>>5775570
My personal limit is $250, but that's probably not gonna cut it for most sellers anymore.

>>5775602
>>5775605
This one is at $350. I guess I should hold off, but it looks so clean that it makes me drool just looking at it. Fucking hell, I need to snap out of this.

>>5775662
Pics

>>5775681
It's a local flea market. He's not selling it online. I'll bring back pics when I see the owner again.

>>5774524
but anon.... It's free. Just go pick it up.

What is /crt/'s preferred method of watching movies and TV? Is it VHS? Betamax? DVD?

>>5776117
wtf is betamax?

>>5776120
You know what VHS is? Well take that and make the quality ten times better. That's what betamax was.

>>5776117
The only VHS player I own doesn't work, so I use WiiMC for SD stuff and a PC via VGA for hi-res stuff, which looks absolutely incredible on CRTs.

>>5776138
That's right, I forgot about the Wii. It's a shame they dropped support for netflix. You got any pics of your setup, anon? I'd love to see how it looks.

>>5776117
whatever format i own it on, which is usually none. but i have a sizeable collection of vhs, betamax, ced, and dvds. been working on collection star wars on all available analog formats.

>>5776148
Pic related was my main setup until my PVM-1954Q's caps gave out. I'll probably set it back up again, but I recently got a Mitsubishi AM-2752A and want to focus on making that my primary setup for watching video since it's a big monitor with RGB/multiformat support.

>>5776117
VHS though s-video on an SVHS player

>>5774297
>bomberman saturn thin crt


what?

>>5776202
supposedly all this does is pass the video through a comb filter then output the result as s-video. you should check the manual for your unit to see what type of comb filter it uses and if the one in your display is a better one.

Should i bother using the "color" emulation in higan if I'm playing on a crt. Can't find i find what exactly it's "emulating" any where online

>>5776457
I would try with it on and off. But I guess if you are using a CRT I would turn the emulation stuff off for that.

It most likely emulates how gamma and color reproduction are done on a CRT, but for a more current display. Approximation of the differences for a more authentic feel. I would guess that some options like that are required to stay on if you use an LCD though.

Similar options exist for some old Genesis emulators to do transparency while still keeping the emulation crisp elsewhere

>>5776117
None of the above. Whatever is the highest quality available, usually 4k blu ray or 4k web-dl. 1080p blu ray or web-dl if 4k not available.

Anyone here know how to repair a CRT Trinitron? Just picked up a free KV-36fs17 but it's very frizy around on all sides but not the center. Not sure if I have to recalibrate it and/or swap out the convergence strips.

>>5776572
Convergence strips will only adjust convergence on the small portion of corners. Try adjusting focus and see if it changes anything.

I got a 27" Trinitron for free on Facebook. It's one of the silver versions. Can I use a universal remote to access the service menu?

>>5777160
all you really need is the display/info button to work. I've had good luck with a couple different universal remotes being able to work for this.

>>5776117
The highest quality version. In rare cases the content is changed, that sucks. However the 2160p versions of movies are about the quality the initial directing expected. Color accuracy is top notch too.

>>5761204
If you can't read that art as text using your knowledge of CRT NTSC and SMPTE fidelity then you don't know it was worth it.

>>5777163
Thanks, I'll check my buying options.

Yo, where do i'm supposed to connect the remaining two cables?

>>5777278
?

You mean the red/white RCA for audio? Usually into the audio of another input. One of your inputs is a dual video and will swap to the active video.

>>5776527
>>5777171
How do you get the right aspect ratio on 4K bluray? Does it fit the screen or does it get cut off on the sides? I'm assuming widescreen must look terrible, but I could be wrong.

>>5777293
You use your content on a capable display. Projector, OLED, LED, etc.

>>5777297
Ah I see. I thought we were still talking about CRT's.

>>5768591
anything with woodgrain is instantly bumped up a few points in my book. I just got a this crazy setup done the other day, and my brother decided to use it for a photography class. Everything is hooked up in one long string of RF cables and splitters, and the static buildup is actually kinda scary when they're all turned on at the same time.

>>5777324
As much as I like CRT, they really can't keep up in this regard. Content you can only find in lower quality would be great on a HD crt at least. Like use a retrotink and run it into a smallerish crt.

>>5776847
thanks, I will.

>>5776117
LaserDisc on a 32" 16:9 Panasonic Quintrix.

>>5770102
Following up on this, I ended up just soldering a DB9 cable to the back of the connector and running it through a hole in the chassis. Not the most elegant solution, but at least I can finally hook up my turbo XT and C128 to an RGB monitor.

>>5778232
Looking good anon.
Aesthetic af.

Debunk this please.

Debunk all of this please.

>>5778626
Debunk what?

>>5778626
Misunderstands what people mean by input lag and display lag if I understood that correctly

>>5778626
>resetera

>>5779113
duke looks so silly in the original game.

>>5767649
you just know

>>5778626
only true if the "industry standard definition of input lag" they mean is time between the top of the frame being sent and the middle of the frame being displayed.

>>5778626
Well, you could start with the fact that there is no industry standard for measuring input lag. Then you could move on to the fact that all these LCD panels are tested at native resolution, and not when fed with a 240p signal.

Thicc

The scanlines that is.

>>5778626
The definition of input lag when we talk about games is the time between pressing a button and the action being executed on the screen.

>>5772978

I own this as well. Works amazing and it was worth it for the convenience alone

>>5779430
Fear Effect or Tomb Raider?

>>5779760
I absolutely love console/TV combos. If I had extraordinary technical know-how and loads of free time, I'd try and make one myself.

What I have

PVM-20M4
USB3HDCAP
RGB Scart Cable & Euro Scart to RGB adapter
OBS Installed on My PC

So here's my question. How do I stream 240pRGB from my PVM to OBS? I've had success streaming S-Video, but there's no RGB adapter bundled with the USB3HDCAP.

Where would I start? I've had success streaming composite, S-Video, but component won't show up for some reason, & I don't even know how I would feed RGB to the capture card.

>>5779886
You can use a BNC-to-VGA adapter, just feed composite sync to the H-sync pin. But it needs to be clean TTL sync, not luma or CVBS. The other problem is that the newer drivers don't work with 240p RGB or YPbPr, so you have to use the older, buggier drivers. I think the last one that supported 240p was version 140.

I got given a PVM Sony Trinitron 20 inch for free but I kinda want a small 9-14 inch PVM.

Are they actually playable with? I've not seen one IRL. How usable are such small monitors if they are sitting on a desk in front of you?

>>5779906
>just feed composite sync to the H-sync pin. But it needs to be clean TTL sync, not luma or CVBS.
& how would I acomplish that? Do I need to buy an OSSC or a Synchstrike?

>>5779910
Speaking from experience, I'd say 14" is the smallest you can get while being usable for everything. Playing anything other than handhelds on a 9" would likely be an uncomfortable experience.

>>5779910
I do most of my gaming on a 13" RGB monitor that I keep on my desk. It's alright, kinda wish it was more in the 15-17" range though. 9" seems like a bad time.

>>5779916
A Sync Strike should work, yes. An OSSC definitely makes it less of a pain in the ass if you've got the money to spend, though at 4x the SNES can be a bit flaky without a dejitter mod (works fine at 2x though).

>>5779920
>>5779923
Thanks Anons, the 9 inches look cool but I guess they are not too playable. Going to look for a 14 inch one.

This isnt really game related but it is CRT related. I made this post on /wsr/ as well but thought I would ask here since I know people who use CRTs will see it here.
What is the easiest way to get plex to run on an old CRT? I got one for retro game stuff and would like to watch some older shows on it as well. I've tried an hdmi to composite converter box but it would have letterboxing all over it and was just not good in general. I'd like it to have it be able to use 4:3 to fit the TV/content just right.

>>5779920
I had a 13 inch one for like a week the nfound a 27 inch one and it was so so so much better and playable. 13 inch was fine but god I love my trinitron.

>>5779087
This is a picture of a speedrunner iirc. I once saw it in a thread with the following filename:
>Transitioning Any%
I laughed a lot.

>>5779910
I use a PVM-8044q on my desk and sit about 40cm from the screen and have never found it to not be usable. Probably put at least a hundred hours of PS2 on this thing alone, not counting any other console. The only thing I'll say is to make sure you get an 8044 or 8045 cause the 8041 and 8042 use a lower TVL tube which is really soft. The HR tubes in the 44/45 aren't super sharp but at 450tvl they're just the right amount if you ask me.

pic related is my 8044, absolutely unplayable.

>>5779618
Tomb Raider if I'm not mistaken. When you first arrive in the house and she's in her training gear.

Muh blue gun. What do?
No, I have no idea why the video is backwards. I'm using WebM for Bakas, fuck me right?

>>5780757
working when you hit it suggests either bad connector or cracked PCB, neck board is likely

>>5780810
Sounds fixable. Wish me luck!

>>5779263
There doesn't need to be an industry standard. It is a measurement of time. A fact. There isn't some opinion to this fact.

This may sound like a stupid question, but how do I connect my modern pc to my CRT monitor? I bought pic related off of amazon and all it does is make shit on my monitor blurry and fuzzy.

>>5781078
I use one of these. Works fine.

>>5781078
>>5781081
Both are shit because it's a shitty converter. Now if you actually buy a scaler unlike 99% of /vr/, you'd see that not only will you convert the input/output but you'll be boosting the resolution.

>>5781105
I have no idea what you're trying to say and I suspect you don't either.

>>5781081
>>5781105
Thanks! I'll look into both of these.

>>5781105
You're an idiot. He's trying to hook up a pc and needs a dac.

>>5781105
>tendak
>shit
pick one

>>5781078
>>5781081
Passive DACs like these will cap at something like 1080p60. Need an active DAC if you expect to go higher. I don't know what resolution your PC CRT can do, but I doubt you want to use it at 60Hz.

>>5769085
I got a Toshiba 27af43 and I am having the same issue. It may be a hardware problem since nothing will modify some weird warping near the top and bottom corners. I think flat screens crts are bad for retro games but it's not that big of a deal. I say let it go man and use the scrolling green hills test to make it as best as possible. That represents real gameplay.

>>5781124
DO NOT LISTEN TO >>5781105

That dude is a fucking moron. Trying to get you to overpay for a scaler which is totally fucking pointless for you.

The Tendak is the defacto hdmi to vga. No crushed blacks, no buffer/delay, no banding or compression, etc. It is perfect. Supports very high resolution and hz as well

Pic related. The alternative version of the tendak. For like $10-20. >>5781081 is the same thing but a different shell. I have had more friends than I care to admit get these and they are always perfect.

>>5781752
1600x1200 at 100hz works as do other similar clocked setups. You need more to go higher, but most people are not going higher as their monitor doesn't support it or it does but looks like shit because the monitor was meant for lower resolution.

>>5779970
Walmart has a Roku exclusive that supports composite input and 4:3 aspect ration. You can download Plex onto it.

>>5781825
I've used this and >>5781078 before, it does work(clean picture), but that audio jack and micro usb port is very fragile. But I didn't use them on CRT monitor though, but on modern flat PC monitor(to connect VGA-only monitor to my PC which graphics card didn't have VGA or even DVI port). Another time I used one to connect my vita tv to monitor that didn't have hdmi or any audio capacity and that adapter was cheapest way to fix both, and it did work.
I think you just god bad one, as these are very cheaply made and I broke them by just from unplugging the cable.

>>5781078
those adapters are low tier trash

>>5781918
What the fuck are you rambling about. You definitely didn't use them if you "broke them". They don't even have usb. Why lie?

>>5782224
>Does what it needs to perfectly for $15
>Better than alternatives that are 5x the cost
LE LOW TIER.

I think you might be a cumbrain. List a single item that can do what this >>5781825 does without costing more or sacrificing the perfect DAC.

>>5782261
calm down bro

>>5766941
>low pitch tridot monitors
ftfy

>>5767439
>shitting on WEGAs
>thinks he's knowledgeable
sure is summer in here

>>5770153
>No they didn’t.
Yes they did. If it can do 15khz it can do 240p/60

>>5770481
>a modded PAL SNES is the only console that will play the full SNES library.
OK what the shit are you talking about here?

>>5771249
>Composite for 240p
cringe

>>5776457
Nigger...480p...really?

>>5777354
The smallest tv looks the best by far.

>>5782536
PAL exclusives? Although it probably is possible to mod an NTSC console to do 50 hz. I'm not sure if anyone has actually done it.

>>5782564
Yeah I'm pretty sure you can mod an NTSC SNES to play PAL games and implement an NTSC/PAL region switch.

>>5782595
Problem is you need to generate a 50 hz clock signal to play them correctly. The 60 hz signal is available in the PAL models so the mod is a lot easier.

>>5782634
The mod is literally the same on PAL and NTSC consoles.
t. I have a 50/60Hz modded Super Famicom (Eurofag, I need to play local finds somehow)

whats the consensus on modern gaymen on crts?
i have an analog output gpu
im thinking about getting one to upgrade my 1024*1280 lcd but want to know what i can actually do with one

does interlaced work on pc effectively doubling refresh rate?
can you triple interlace?
i can get a syncmaster959nf for 10 yurobucks, should i go for it?
seems pretty good(110khz) but are there even higher horizontal frequencies i should look out for?

>>5761515
32FV310
27FV300
27FS320
27FS120

Total of about $40 with three matching stands, a dvd player, and proper remotes for all of them.

>>5784041
It's OK, but don't expect new games to support 4:3. I would definitely get that monitor either way though, unless there are a lot of PC CRTs for sale in your area. And basically no to all your other questions.

>>5784053
And how many of those have wonky geometry? Inb4 you didn't put a grid on them or you "don't care".

>>5784062
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxQsFEaws8 seems to have it working

how does interlaced even work?
i know it sends every even and then odd lines but how are the lines made?
does the gpu render an image and save it in vram, then send it to the monitor
if thats how it works shouldnt it be trivial to make triple interlacing? just send every third line
i hope im not being a retard, i have no idea what to google to find this

is this even the right place? im not gonna ask /g/, maybe sci or diy?

What am I in for lads?

>>5784124
>soul
Opinion discarded. You can go back now:
>>>/v/

>>5784041
i exclusively play on a vga crt for modern games and it's great. a lot of games have arbitrary aspect ratio support thanks to the ultrawide fad so 4:3 is support a lot of the time.

>>5784476
clearly you're the one who needs to go back to /v/ cause you don't seem to know the name of that video game.

>>5784124
a mouth full of cock you faggot

Thoughts on this set?

>>5784638
Inputs.

What are Mitsubishi's like? I found a small one for $10.

>>5784681
Got a photo of it?

>>5784681
they were good in the 90s but lack component inputs. a pic would be good cause there were some rare presentation monitors they made but it's probably not one.
>>5784638
those are nice for /v/ games when they're in good shape.

HDcrts are not great, if you want to paly HD games just buy a modern TV.

>>5763830
did they use SGI/Irix for FF7?

>>5784063
All of them to a certain extent. Some are better than others, so I'm getting rid of two.

It's the nature of things with these consumer sets, which is why I refuse to pay much for them.

>>5785265
Honesty - I like that. I have a flat 20". It's got a droopy corner but otherwise it's really not bad. Something about bigger sets being worse though?

I saw this thing on the sidewalk for free. It was pretty big. Silver case. Three composite jacks, one component, one S-Video, and one RF.

Here's the label. This is worthless, right?

>>5785425
They are worth about $350, hope you grabbed it.

>>5785425
Looks pretty good.

I decided to finally switch from my beautiful 50hz set for a pretty wonky pal set that accepts 60hz ntsc in colour, only issue aside from it just being a worse overall tube is that the entire screen becomes dim whenever blue is displayed. Otherwise it's brightness and contrast looks good, it's only when something blue (eg the sky ffs) comes on screen.
I'm guessing this is one of those bulging capacitors I've heard about, anyone any ideas?

>>5784476
>>5784629
>sperging this hard over soul reaver
>What pitiful form is this that you have come to inhabit?
Was testing out the rgb mod on my hitachi 29" and got sucked into playing sr ps1. I was getting weird blacks on screen (mixed with red), then realized the set was on some shitty picture preset.

I just found a pvm 20l2 on the fucking curb outside of a thrift store. I think the thrift store has a no crt donation policy. it works perfectly and looks great.

>>5785773
Post pics.

>>5781114
>>5781124
>>5781230
>>5781393
Sorry, what I meant to say to >>5781078 was that you always get what you paid for. If you'd put the money in something like a scaler, no matter what CRT you're using, it'll better help your CRT auto adjust so that your CRT can understand it better for a sharper, cleaner display. A regular converter will literally just changes the plug it into your TV. I'm only suggesting Atlona because I also had that blurry & fuzzy issue >>5781078 was talking about and it the scaler fixed it.
>>5781825
Stfu faggot. Stop fixing CRTs and fix the fucking screws in your head, you fuckin' retard.

>>5782504
this, my ikegami 2050ra1 blows away any of my aperture grille monitors.

>>5785907
Everything you said is wrong. Stop posting. No one listen to this mentally lacking retard.

You don't need to pay more you imbecile. If the CRT takes the image it takes it. End of it. Stop it. You don't need to scale shit. Go shill for your half assed company elsewhere

>>5768030
i got something like that sony with the side speakers, its a neat lil guy

>>5785959
wow, I actually feel sorry for you. Poor blue-pilled bastard.

>>5785907
you have no idea what you're talking about you idiot. just stop.

>>5763830
I don't belong on /vr/ at all but as /g/entleman this setup looks comfy as hell. High-end professional equipment is still high-end professional equipment past its era. Totally appreciable on its own merits for the tasks it was designed for.

>>5761515
$50 for an Ikegami PVM.

>>5761515
~$450, although each time I've paid I've gotten more for less, and have made that money back in selling what monitors I had previously.

>>5786106
Isn't it? The aesthetic oozes hard work to me.

>>5785487
ps. is there any way to just mod this 50hz into a PAL60 set or something? The colors are too good, but 50hz is no way to live, as much as i want to go back to this set...

>>5776117
Depends on the movie.
I usually prefer the highest quality so 4K Ultra HD most of the time.
For CRTs, it's either DVD or LaserDisc.

For 3D movies, I prefer Blu-ray 3D, and they look great on VR.

Thoughts on my recent pickup? It's a KV-30HS420 with matching stand and remote for $100.

>>5786816
I have to admit it's a LOT bigger in person than it looks in pictures.

>>5786820
Inputs.

>>5786820
>>5786824
Wouldn't pay $100 for it, but that thing would be awesome for watching movies.

Does anyone here own a JVC C-1455CA/C-1455US? I heard it's similar to the Commodore 1701 and 1702 which seem to be great monitors and I was wondering if the JVC is any good. I saw one in a classified for fairly cheap.

>>5786956
pic related

>>5786958
I think that's what the Commodore monitors were based off of. However, I don't think it has the Y/C or composite inputs that the aforementioned monitors have.

>>5786968
That's unfortunate. I'm still waiting for the seller to get back to me about the inputs. I think the 1702 had s-video.

>>5786820
that's not the original Sony stand but it fits well enough. I wouldn't have paid that much, especially not to use it for retro games. it's good for some 6th gen games and all 7th gen consoles though, I have a kv-34xbr800 and it's great for ps3 and blurays.

Might have to look into that.

>>5765407
Only AV with no component or S video, go back.

Thoughts about B&O MS 6000? Generally I've experienced B&O to be a mixed bag.

I have a pretty good Panasonic professional monitor that I found for free but I don't really use it anymore. Where would be a good place to sell it?

How the fuck am I supposed to calibrate a TV when all the settings are four letter acronyms I don't even know what they are?

>>5787410
read the service manual if you're servicing a tv...

>>5786820
Please stay in /v/

>>5787410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39PZB8gYhk

>>5776117
DVD files to Wii @ component to pvm

>>5787514
I wonder if he browses /vr/

>>5761515
Seeing all the replies to this, I can't believe I've spent so much for one composite Trinitron. I must have bad luck if I can't find a PVM for free.

>>5787663
He is amazing so probably not

>>5787508
I posted on /vr/ first :)

>>5787712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAbqucrWHjU

>>5776117
laserdisc
i picked up a player today for $20.
works great and i get to watch my fucking laserdisc i been hording since 2017.

>>5785392
I don't know, really.. this 32 is the first set over 27 that I've had, and it's pretty good.

>>5785773
congratulations, you just found $300

>>5779978
yo that shit looks like a goatse

>>5785425
I own that model, I’ve had it for years and it’s my favorite model I own, I prefer it to the kv-27fv17 trinitron I have and I prefer it over my pvms.

Friend just told me his Sony pc monitor, not always but some days, flashes then scales all funny then back to normal. On days it happens it happens every 30 minutes of use.

Before I tear this apart, anyone know what would cause that?

Not overheating and I don't think the cables are the issue as I had him check.

>>5787967
try smacking it while it's on. if you see an issue when doing that then it's bad solder joints.

>>5761391
Lookin' good. I'm feeling inspired, wait one second.

>>5788030
Oops, forgot to post after I took the picture

>>5788256
Another

>>5788256
>>5788260
cute monitor

>>5788290
Thanks.

Arcade monitors anybody?

>>5767493
>himalayan pink sea salt
I hate this meme. It's rusty trash salt contaminated with dynamite residue mined and handled by subhuman pakistanis. Get some Fleur De Sel De Guérande you tasteless savage.

>>5788256
Post an early 3D game, 2D looks like shit on that thing.

>>5786820
Looks clean, and I'm glad to see people coming around on WEGA.

>>5786820
By the way...

Since you have that PVM there I assume you are probably skilled enough to get a PC and RetroArch up and runningon that TV. If you could do so it would be a big help to take high quality photos of CRT shaders running in 1080i on that screen.

>>5767994
shit geometry

>>5761515
$150, I think. But I have :
PVM-2030
PVM 20n5u
PVM 20l2
PVM 1910
JVC tm h150cg
Sony cpd300

>>5765585
>PS2
Get original xbox it's better