/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 24th 23:00 GMT
-Final deadline extension
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to help get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[7-21] Mapping contest with $250 prize: make a Prey 1996-themed map within one of numerous games
http://talonbrave.info/?p=1801

[7-20] Quake SM199 - five maps made by teams of two mappers
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61754

[7-19] Tim Willits leaves id Software, after being at the company for 24 years
https://twitter.com/TimWillits/status/1151870022421241857

[7-18] Aleph One may be getting better mouse support
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20190331

[7-17] Copper Quake updates to 1.05
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[7-17] Mapwinch RC1 released - 30 mappers randomly paired with each other to make 15 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107249-come-eat-the-mapwich-a-collaborative-community-project-rc1-available/

[7-12] Ion Maiden deflowered into Ion Fury
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1619524466602443850

[7-8] New beta release for La Tailor Girl
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=390#p1110538

[7-4] Alien Bastards! a new Doomer Boards mapset inspired by Alien Carnage
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1541/dbp13-alien

[7-3] Quake Speedmapping Pack 198: 768 ^ 2
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61748

[7-1] Anon updates 'Demon CounterStrike' to fix Rocket Launcher spawns
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5701806/#5702668

[6-29] Anon map release: TESTINGGROUND.wad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

How do people feel about Youngblood? I've played an hour and a bit in SP and it's pretty mean. I'm interested to see how much influence Arkane had, I'm expecting deeper stealth mechanics than previous games.

>>5765060
It's a spinoff to a mediocre game. Don't care.

Here's Elite Hans from Youngblood. It's pretty shit to be completely honest. It's cool that it's there but the maps are short and mostly mediocre. The voice lines are pretty lols tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbUDRspjRWI

>>5765060
>>5765069
>>5765106
NOT
FUCKING
RETRO

>>5765106
So, it’s just more Wolfstone?

>>5765114

I'd call a wolf3d mod retro

>>5765117

Yeah but with different maps and more of a TC feel to it

What's everyone working on? I just finished my DBP14 map

>>5765150
That's a lot of wires for a concrete wall

>>5765151

Good point. I could do something like this. I do like how the wires have a matching flat though. I'll play around with it some more.

>>5765150
That ground texture disturbs me. It looks like plastic or something.

>let's go see what people are playing at 3AM on Doomseeker
>huh, never seen this mod before, let's join
>oh

>>5763686
what's this from?

>>5765159
Forgot pic
Server's dead now so I can't tell you what the hell was being hosted, there were some Grezzo 2 enemies in there

>>5765060
>openworld
>rpgrind
>almost complete damage mitigation on higher level opponents
>do random sidequests until you levelup for main mission
>only 3 actual main missions, everything else is grindy padding

It's like they decided to combine the worst trends of the latest few years.

>>5765060
Can't play as BJ so I don't fucking care

>>5765196
BJ’s a bit too old to be running around and killing Nazis now. He’s 69.

>>5765156
I think it's because it looks too rocky to be a floor texture.
>>5765150
You should try sand or mudcracks as a texture, see how that looks.

>>5764979
>>5764981
>Didn't change the HUH information in the news post

>>5765214
he survived his head being cut off

>>5765214
Don't fucking care, it's not Wolfenstein without BJ

>>5765221
I’m not disagreeing with you on that, I’m just saying that the retards at Machinegames have written themselves into a corner, and instead of just having BJ and the gang hop from nation to nation, and occasionally space, they decided to do a 20 year time skip because they want his retarded daughters as the protagonists.

>>5765217
A new body can’t stop aging.

Its over
Oh goodie

>>5765230
You mean exhentai?

>>5765235
Yup
Gone

>>5765216

d'oh
my bad

I really wanna play some Chocolate Doom coop

>>5765228
it's the right side of history

Report, filter and hide.

Aliens Eradication looks pretty dope.

promise is a peomise. F for sadpanda.

doom eternal hype.

>>5765309
>tfw still no playable daisy mod
Feels like a no brainer

>>5765309
You bring some joy in these trying times
Thank you pastry

Also let this be a lesson
Back up your stuff
Even the non porn stuff

>>5765321
Just like Randy and his USB.

>>5765350
Randy was dumb enough to go for 3D
Keep that shit in the two dimensional plane

Aquarius 199 AKA Nitro active Studios in a nutshell

>*Starts playing a WAD*
SO FAR THIS LOOKS PRETTY BLAND
>*Dies to a Pinky, Cacodemon or some other easy monster*
Oops time to type resurect in the console again!
>*Sees a Cyberdemon*
Oh god time to type IDDQD!
>*Sees a large group of monsters*
Oh god time to type IDKFA!
>*Sees a buff cartoon character*
Oh god time to jerk off!

I'm currently playing pic related and it's oh so amazing. Generally, I'm amazed that Doom never gets old for me and it still feels modern, for the lack of better word. I guess "timeless" would be more accurate. So, yeah, I'm amazed after all those years it's still fresh ... it's fast, the gameplay is fun (depending on the map, of course, but the elements are all there) ... exploration, action, even atmosphere and almost unlimited content.

Thing is, I don't even like the original Doom that much, though I enjoyed the later maps a lot more than the first episode, which, for the longest time, was the only thing I knew about Doom, which is why I never really cared much about it, before I ended up experimenting with the source ports, playing Doom 2 via VanillaDoom a while back.

I think my fav besides Eviternity is Scythe. I enjoyed Sigil as well, unlike many people, but it's nowhere near as good as some WADs.

>>5765373
Have you tried Ancient Ayyys yet?

>>5765374

No, please do tell.

>>5765358
No one fucking cares. Also, cringe culture is a mental illness.

>>5765373

... of course I meant Chocolate Doom, not Vanilla Doom for those zero people who care.

>>5765376
It’s a pretty good Doom 2 WAD. Definitely give a shot, along with Back To Saturn X.

>>5765383

I'm currently downloading A.A. Thank you!

>>5765393
No problem. Always glad to help.

If I found a bug/error in Arcane Dimensions, where do I report it?

In Crucial Error there's an area in one of the corridors on the upper level where both player and enemy can shoot through what's supposed to be a solid floor, since there's apparently a narrow hole in the collision.
In same level I have collected all circuit boards, but 2 last ones both told me that "1 left" so one of them didn't count, maybe because I collected them out of order or something.

In ad_lavatomb I somehow managed to get to the end portal without triggering the final showdown the first time around. The pillars that should have prevented me from going in were not there, and I was free to finish the level. When I reloaded pre-end save to go and searchthe secrets, I found one of the buttons that was supposed to trigger the final battle, and the pillars appeared. After I pressed the second button, final battle commenced and pillars lowered down allowing to proceed normally.

What soundcard do you guys recommend for Dark Forces music
I usually use an SC-55 emulator but maybe there's a better alternative

>>5765408
Maybe there's a thread on Quaddicted or something? I'd report this kind of stuff in a mod's thread in zdoom forums if it were released there, maybe the Quake lads do stuff similarly.

I've looked up on the Blood wiki.
It says Caleb was born 1847 and was betrayed/died in 1871. Which makes him 24 years old.

Where this information comes from exactly? He seems to be in his 30s/40s at best.

>>5765430
Never played Blood, but wasn't he essentially rotting in a crypt for like a century? I think that oughta put a few "years" on anyone.

>>5764597
Thanks

>>5765373
Doom on its own is a solid foundation to build upon. It is the first game that has absolutely everything that needs to be in a good shooter - comprehensive selection of weapons, good varied roster of badguys, capability for architecture and light/dark areas, as well as minor puzzle elements.

The key of Doom longevity is that it is complex enough to allow almost limitless creativity with its levels and architecture (sans RoR), while staying simple enough so that creation of content for it is easy to get into. Anyone who has an idea can go and make it into a map with minimal barrier to entry.
Sure Quake allows for much more complex architecture, but until some modern tools appeared working with it was a more daunting and intimidating task than it was for Doom.
Then we also have the principles of map design coined by Romero, which when followed result in at least a decent map.
Thus we have a prolific scene of content creators that know how to make a good level as they have a good foundation to build upon and plenty of examples of prior good maps to get inspiration/ideas from.

>>5765373
For the longest time I simply could not play Doom for too long, I used to get dizzy and outright sick, I finally managed to fix my health recently and I can finally enjoy it but I feel bad because I honestly find the original gameplay boring today and I need to use gameplay mods, I feel like a zoomer (but I'm a boomer literally)
Still even the original map are amazing today. I'm almost finished with Doom 1 and I'm having a blast

Quakecon streams anywhere?

>>5765438
He woke up in 1928.
So it's half century.
He spent 100 years between Blood 1 and 2 doing nothing though.

Makes me wonder what Caleb would do if he fought in WW2.
Probably doesn't take any side, just kills whoever annoys him

>>5765505
WolfenBlood?

What do you think of Chasm the Rift?

>having fun playing a wad
>get to map 20 or so
>spawn in
>immediately see 100 enemies and the first weapon you get is the BFG
>turn off the wad
Every time.

The speedmap pack in OP has a map that uses some 2D textures for stuff like cobwebs and little hanging jungle vines. Looks fucking great. Never seen that used before in Quake.

>>5765598
the copper mapset also uses something like that

>>5765591
Nothing quite like feeling almighty by means of vanquishing hordes of pixelated sprites.

Doomers, do you keep you weaponry upon completing a map or do you like to start from scratch? I would love to have the option in one of the source ports to start every level fresh and see how well you can beat Doom/Doom 2, as I remember the maps where originally designed to be beatable with a pistol start. I know that some Youtubers do this for their walkthroughs for certain WADs as well ... Eviternity comes to mind.

>>5765591
>you pick BFG and horde of monsters teleports away
>it was all a ruse to filter out the unworthy

>>5765591
>BFG isn't a teleport trap
What a shame

>>5765601
yeah just read the readme and the guy said he took it from exactly that.

I think it looks great. Mixes well with Quakes 3D.

>>5765650
>filtering

>>5765608
Here we go again.

You restart the level with nothing but a pistol in vanilla on death. Maps were designed with that in mind. The way it was intended bla bla bla. It's been a thing in Doom mapping since the start so I don't think Eviternity deserves any kind of special mention.

>>5765689
I have the feeling you misunderstood my intention. I was asking for preferences. You somehow seem to be annoyed by this but I don't get why.

>>5765608
I enjoy doing pistol starts. It makes conserving ammo and using the right weapon at the right moment that much more important.

>>5765654
the map pack came with that config file alright!!

>>5765608
>I would love to have the option in one of the source ports to start every level fresh and see how well you can beat Doom/Doom 2

Just.... do it in the console? "map e?m?"

>>5765706

Sure, this would be the usual way to do this. But it would be nice having the option to pistol start on every map.

>>5765712
[NO]

>>5765696
Just depends on the map set. Some are easier on pistol start. Full health is good to have. 13% health and a bunch of hitscanners bumbling around can be a bad time.
Whatever I feel like at the time, basically. That's my preference.

>>5765712
Uh-huh
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47204

>>5765737
>random_level_order -- setting this to "true" or 1 causes the player to be warped to a random level at the start of each level. This works with all iwad maps and all pwad mapsets using either E#M# or MAP## naming format that have the full 36 or 32 levels. Maps previously visited either while this cvar was set to true or with the "warp to random map" function will not be revisited unless all have already been visited. When all maps in a WAD have been visited and the player tries to go to a new random map, the player will be notified before the list is reset and a new (previously visited) random map is warped to. Whether the player is given a pistol start reset is up to their cvar settings.
I've been wanting this for a long time.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/07/the_original_doom_doom_ii_and_doom_3_have_all_surprise_launched_on_nintendo_switch

>>5765743
Doom 2 has the Master Levels. For $4, that's a crazy deal.

>>5765743
Fucking sick.

my switch got banned yesterday I would have bought these ;__;

>>5765608
This mod has some universal support for pistol starts and their equivalents. It works in Heretic and Chex Quest, at least.
https://github.com/mmaulwurff/idclever-starter

>>5765743
>Doom 1/2/3 reveal at Quakecon

DOOMGUYS IN FUCKING SMASH ITS HAPPENING

when is the eternal gameplay starting today?

>>5765743
Well that was short-lived.

>>5765743
>Ultimate Doom for $4
>Doom II and the fucking Master Levels for $4
>Doom3 and all DLC for $10
Yoooooooo

>>5765758
Noon EST.
>>5765762
I hope Doom 2 also has NRFTL.

>>5765743
>they've already been taken down
bethesda why

>>5765743
But do they have gyro aiming?

>>5765769
>gyro aiming on Doom3
that would be sick

>>5765769
They're probably identical to the last-gen ports.

what is the best wad ever fucking created

I wish the QCDE monsters could be installed standalone.

>>5765749
Banned yesterday? Guess what'll happen later today. Praise Nintendo.

>>5765778
myhouse.wad

>>5765771
Nintendoom

>>5764981
ITS OGRE LADS! ITS FUNKY SHIT AND RAW THIS TIME!
>https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1154755801925455873
ALL 3 GAMES released for Switch, DOOM64 is coming out later

>>5765785
>DOOM64 is coming out later
If they do, I hope it has splitscreen.

Quakecon Eternal keynote in an hour.

>>5765309
Can you upload all your stuff so I can archive it please
Do it for panda

I want a Pirate Doom sequel so fucking bad.

>just enough time to rewatch the retro ahoy doom video while waiting for the keynote

TODAY'S MUSIC IF IT HAPPENS TODAY!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX5_4fBuyqY

ITS the 90's COMING BACK IN FULL FORCE!

>>5765814
Easy on the cocaine there, anon

>>5765785
>DOOM64 is coming out later
Did they say this?

>>5765712
I just have the nextmap command bound to \ (between backspace and enter) and can press it when I'm on an intermission screen to go to the next level fresh. It's not ideal, but better than opening up console and changing the number.

>>5765815
ARE YOU ASKING US TO SMACK OUR BITCH UP UNTIL THEN?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjYpB4vTuU

>>5765821
I'm asking you to make sense

>>5765823
Anon, back then Prodigy, Fat Boy Slim and Crystal method were some of the music for long deathmatch sessions.
Mainly for Quake 2 and 3, a Friend of mine once spent the entire weekend playing Q2 MP listening to both Fat of the land and You Come a long way baby, monday he popped up at school and he looked like a fucking zombie, he slept only 4 hours.

Also the 90's stuff is because we're really getting a LOT of 90's throwbacks of late in gaming, and good throwbacks, not garbage remakes or so.

i would laugh if Activision suddenly decides to make a new Heretic game in parthnership with Zenimax/ID

>>5765814
Based

wheres the map pack bros

>>5765847
It died in the war

>>5765847
Read nigga READ

>>5765870
>-Deadline: July 24th 23:00 GMT
it's july 26 now

>>5765873
Map anon was busy and didnt have time to make a little hub area for the maps. Hes working on it.

>>5765879
Okay, that's cool. let me know when it's finished please

>>5765883
Sure. I'll call you on the anon hotline.

>>5765883
Maps were posted in the last thread. Play if you want.

5 minutes lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQrDFcDHAE

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQOIbLZh_38

>>5765060
>shit gameplay
>no BJ
No thanks. I'll just go replay TNO later.

here we go boys

>Quakecon
>I never played any Quake
>feel bad everytime
Can I just play Quake in GZdoom?

>>5765905
Read the OP. Damn it, man.

>>5765905
The OP has a tutorial on how to play quake, look up that!

>>5765907
>>5765908
Sorry, I'll check it again

TIM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS
TIIIM THROUGHOUT THE YEEEARS

>Rage 2
For fucks sake,enough

why did they have to make Rage 2 so goddamn obnoxious. It looks okay gameplaywise but I'm never touching that shit.

give it to me straight pete. is doomguy in smash?

>Doom 2005 roast session
oh kek

But Marty, what port are you going to use? Please let it be Crispy.

>no Doom today
fuuuuuck

RANGER CAT CONFIRMED

HERE WE GO LADS

>>5765938
Can it play Project Brutality with maps of chaos

>off-palette IDDQD shirt
Gross

jesus twitch chat really is a dumpster fire

#drops

I really appreciate those grapple physics.

>>5765743
It's not like I'll be buying this but I just don't get why 64 is still nowhere to be seen. Also this is the first time 3's ever been officially released on a Nintendo console (though there was likely very little effort to do that, assuming it's basically the Shield port repackaged).

>showing off battle mode with walk speed Doomguy
NAH DUDE

They've changed the Revenant.

Just seems like a weird playercount. I could see it maybe catching on if it was 2v4 but that must not have worked as well when they tested it.

>>5765971
Yeah. He obviously needed more vaseline.

Huh, they used the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth soundfont for the new consoles ports, thought they'd reuse the BFG Edition one. Also the music plays slower than it's supposed to.

>you can play as the Archvile
this is gonna be obnoxious if you're the Slayer

>>5765982
It was like that last gen too.

>no quake at quakecon

>>5764979
Hi OP. You are a fucking loser.

>>5765982
Homebrew ports are prooooooobably better

Disappointed we only got like 30 seconds of single player footage.

more singleplayer content, same time tomorrow on stream. fucking hell.

lol

That's it? Didn't wait for Doom presentation for 90% of it being multiplayer.

>no doom64
Miss me with that gay shit

Doom Eternal keynote tomorrow at 11am CDT

>>5765996
Holy shit dropped. I'll really just have to learn to hack my Switch at this point.

>>5765996
Cracked within 24 hours, most likely.

>>5765996
The absolute state of console gayming..

>No Doom 64.
Still with that licence limbo bullshit? Come on
>No nazis in these Doom 2 ports
It's BFG Edition all over again

>Doom 2 doesn't include NRFTL
Lame.

>>5765378
What I posted has nothing to do with cringe culture. I don't even know what the fuck cringe culture is.

>>5766013
Also MAP01's MIDI sounds bad, seems like they need to fix music playback. They'd better remove >>5765996 too because that's fucking retarded.

>>5766007
>No nazis in these Doom 2 ports
WHAT?!
I NEED PICS

>>5766026

>>5765792
doom 1 has splitscreen on switch so I think it will.

>>5765230
>>5765235

>>5766028
Shit, that's just ugly overall

Good news:once you log in to play Doom on Switch,it doesn't require being online all the time

>>5766028
fuck that shit
and now that i'm here also fuck mods that do that as well

>>5765743
>no Final Doom
>no No Rest For The Living
>gets just the Master Levels
Fuck THAT.

hugo looks like he really does not want to be here

>>5766041
He does in almost every interview.

>>5766045
>>5766041
That's a shame,I want my man to be happy

>>5766041
He's just meditating

>>5766056
how time flies

AAAAA

>>5766059
To think we got Eternal footage almost exactly a year ago.
Goddamn

>>5766061
>my doom 4 revenant is already out of date

>>5766064
Age is funny like that. 3 years is nothing after a certain point.

>>5766068
the ever evolving agitated skeleton

>>5766025
Can you record it?

>>5766059
>>5766064
>>5766071
Oh come on it's just the beard that make him looks more aged

>>5766082
Sure, just give me some time to set it up. I should mention it's nothing major but still bad.

>>5765309
Haha what if doomguy was cursed and turned into a cute bunny girl haha that would be funny haha because it's a guy turning into a bunny ha

>>5765926
Crispy for the Switch port? That'd be pretty cool.

The renewed ports shiststorm is starting to brew Fast

it Seems that there may be a Lawsuit due to the BNET name being registered by Blizzard Entertainment

>>5765957
>but I just don't get why 64 is still nowhere to be seen
Because they'd have to negotiate with Williams, or whatever people own their assets now.

>>5765996
>locked out of a 25 year old game by a company that had nothing to do with that game until 15 years later when they bought the company that made it

Levels of capitalist bootlicking I can't even fathom.

If console gamers can put up with this, can we really consider them human?

>>5766091
Nah, man. They were saying that they're going to play Doom and do commentary on stream. Think it's tomorrow.

>>5766093
Why the fuck does a 25+ year old vidya need DRM anyway, especially Doom? Holy fuck Todd.

Get that potato sack MachineGames man outta there

>>5766084
12 year olds on /v/ thinks a stubble means you're broken or something.

>>5766119
>stubble = broken
Guess I need to start shaving 2 more times per day.

>>5766103
Ahh that makes sense.

Jesus christ ion fury is so goddamn gorgeous to look at. How the fuck did they make the build engine look that fucking amazing? I just wish that the maiden herself wasn't so boring. The lines and her delivery are so bland.

>>5766071
Yeah,to think Doom 4 was released 3 years ago,it doesn't feel that long.

>>5765778
nuts.wad

We're nearly at the point where we can run it at a stable 60fps.

>>5766119
No,they're talking about how it's been almost a year since that presentation

>>5765778
doomII.wad

>>5766152
But Doom.wad is better
And Doom shareware is even better than that, on account of not containing any of the shit levels.

>>5766082
>>5766086
All right, here it is: https://files.catbox.moe/4lwfew.mp3
Recorded from the Switch version.

And I just realized that the reason why I thought it sounded so bad was because one of the instruments early on drags on for longer than it's supposed to, a result of the song being slowed down. It just really threw me off. Not even sure why they never bothered to fix the music's speed if it was like that in the 7th gen ports too.

All in all, on top of needing a Bethesda.net account, I have to admit these ports play fine (not as well as with a mouse and a keyboard, obviously) but it seems like they didn't put as much effort into them as they should've. They didn't even bother including No Rest for the Living in Doom 2 which is shitty.

My verdict: Don't bother, not unless you already have a Bethesda.net account, really want to play OG Doom on the go and don't want to install a homebrew port.

>the new ports were made in unity
It gets better

>>5766164
"Yeah, this is ready for release" said no one but that didn't matter.

>>5766164
Jesus fucking christ that sounds so bad.

>>5766169
No way

This is how you do battle mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZP6ZXcvnRg

>>5766169
Are you serious?

Why would you work to port Doom into Unity to get it onto the switch when there are a dozen ARM source ports already?

>>5766164
You've seen the 32X version's fart soundfont, now get ready for the Switch's Dog Bite and Sleeping on the Keyboard soundfont!

Expecting modern devs to know anything about midi is probably a mistake.

>>5766159
>le Knee Deep in the Dead is the best thing ever xD
kys

>>5766192
There's a hook in this bait.

>>5766169
I can see it. Things are ever so slightly off and it doesn't look like software emulation or anything of the sort. It's too "clean" and looks not unlike OpenGL stuff.

>>5766191
Get Jimmy to be the dedicated MIDI specialist, the man has too much talent to be so unknown outside of this community.

>>5766164
>that audio

>>5766202
Keyboardists rarely get any substantial exposure, midi or not.
"He just presses some keys down, right? Right."

>Bethesda

>>5765743
>bfg edition
>no 64 or final doom
>requires bethesda's server account to use it

>>5766103
how hard is it for publishers to recheck trademark ownership?
midway is fucking dead and from what i heard, the real issue is talking with aubrey hodges for the soundtrack

What are some easy wads?
I want something relaxing to play on delta touch during my lunch break.
I'm currently on episode 3 of chex quest

>>5766225
Zone300. Short maps. Good for breaks.

So apparently they removed the Classic Doom downloads from the 360 marketplace and delisted it? Which means you have no choice on Xbox One but to play the new port with less content now.

>doom I and II vanished from Xbox 360 store and you can't play it on the BC program
>same for ps3
>same with Doom 3 BFG
>all legal ways of getting NRFL gone
Those Doom 3 BFG discs are getting a price upgrade on the secondary market.

>>5765060
looks fun

>>5764409
Imp Encounter

>>5766231
Now I'll never get those multiplayer achievements.

>>5766231
What about GOG?

>>5766259
GOG has BFG Edition like Steam does, but both also host the original Doom games uncensored. So we don't lose our main source of the NRFTL wad, we just lose all console options to access it outside of BFG.

>>5766259
Oh shit, might as well get those before they "mysteriously" vanish.

>>5766164

Here it is in motion. Jesus christ. They fucked everything up.
https://youtu.be/_T0kYf-EIJw

>>5766164
>>5766169
I swear to fuck, Todd.

Good to know ID is busy doing their own thing separately instead of pulling this shit. This whole deal smells rank.

>>5765598
>>5765601
AD uses those extensively too.
That sort of thing was actually not possible in the original Quake, because it didnt have support for textures with transparency.

>>5766028
>have current game series about killing nazis
>violence against """"nazis"""" is a "hip" thing right now
>censor appearance of nazis from a 20 year old game

https://youtu.be/NvQrDFcDHAE?t=2663
Holy shit, an anon just yesterday said they hoped there'd be new Earth locations like a forest in Doom Eternal. Well look at that, there'a a forest and what appears to be a human medieval castle.

>>5766301
But they were talking about actual nazis.
The point is how can you contradict yourself so bad?
You claim that killing nazis is so much fun and yet I can't do it in the game where they're in a secret map?

That's fucking stupid

>>5765309
BREH
B R E H

Burn in hell Todd:
https://twitter.com/noteinso/status/1154809291641151488

>>5766028
>>5766036

They did this so they could sell the BFG Edition in Germany before they amended laws regarding Nazi symbols in entertainment products outside of historical context.

>>5766164
Running Into Cursedness.

>>5766320
This isn't necessarily a terrible thing inherently, but it's a lot more work than necessary to say the least.

>>5766320
Surely 3 isn't, at least? The Switch is just a modified Nvidia Shield, and that had a native Doom 3 game so I'd be stunned if that is as well.

>>5766164
Thanks dude.

>>5766183
Allegedly they ported it to Unity because they were butthurt that the game credited Romero and Carmack and they wanted to redo the game from scratch just to get rid of that. Allegedly. There's all sorts of reasons they could have done it, all of them stupid.

>>5766338
DOOM 3 switch is the BFG edition.

>>5766338
It almost certainly won't be
The Shield, Shield Portable and Shield Tablet could all run the native port of 3 BFG so it'll be that
If it IS a Unity port then it'd be a baffling decision

>>5766291
They didn't even aspect correct the graphics.
Everything that's supposed to be square (hud for example) or round (cacodemons) is squished.
Sounds are wrong pitch.
Quality

>>5765309
look at those fucking abs on that.

>>5766341
Yeah they totally did that. The new credits only feature Bethesda employees.

https://twitter.com/noteinso/status/1154817042614226944?s=19

>>5766338
D3 is straight up BFG Edition port, Lost Missions included.

What are some VERY vertical wads out there?
I was trying out this d4d mod and it felt like it would be more fun with lost of platforms and shit like that

>>5766291
>Code of conduct
Does it even have multiplayer?

>>5766350
My assumption for no aspect correction is to try to fill as much of the widescreen as possible.

>>5766356
Congestion 1024 and its ilk rely a lot on height to make the levels seem bigger than they are.

>>5766352
yeah that's not at all fucking shady or disrespectful in any degree, what are 'special thanks'

fucking doom 4 did it

>>5766270
>>5766272
Reminder of WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH and why Romero warned us about it in 2007.

so what does the doom 2 port come with? Does it have final doom, NRFTL or Master Levels?

>>5766370
It comes with Doom 2.

>>5766370
I saw that there was a trophy for beating the master levels

>>5766374
thats it? laaaaame

The iOS version of Doom was also updated after 6 years

>>5766362
Good point, I still think they should've made it a setting.

>>5766370
Disappointment.

>>5766379
They put this on Android, too. But the previous official version was completely removed years ago so the new port is just 1.0.0 on there.

>say in the last thread I'd love for Bethesda to mention Doom 64 in some way, even in the form of them confirming a mobile port
>it's the only one to not get a port and hence the only Doom to not get any mention
I'm like a really shit foreseer.

>>5766396
You're a Not-stradamus

>>5764979
I used to play doom on my TV with an Ouya, and doom touch APK. My Ouya is buggered now so that's no longer an option.

I have a modded Wii, but the port seems shit. The most popular one can't play music and SFX together.

What options do I have for playing Doom on my TV? I could play on PC, sure - but it's more fun on the TV

>>5766401
hook your pc up to a tv

>>5766401
>Ouya
You poor soul

>>5766401
Ever see an HDMI cable before?

>>5766370
Doom 2 & the Master Levels

what are some good megawads that don't turn into slaughter shit after 20 maps?

>>5766401
It doesn't seem like you've got any options other than WiiDoom. I mean have you got an Android device that can output to HDMI? A lot can do. Anyway, Delta Touch on that is pretty good, lots of customisation and has 5 different source ports.

>>5766320
well if its friggin unity this thing can be modded right?
not getting my hopes up really

>>5766351
>that
It's a her.

>>5766351
you should see the other picture
still safe but she is a bit more shapely

>>5766421
Well, the PS4 and Xbone can't be modded, and GZDoom has a homebrew port on the Switch.

>>5764979
>>5766367
I thinks its time to Hoard the GOG and the DOOM3 steam ports, God knows if ZENIMAX MEDIA decides to kill Doom modding in favor of this Unity travesty that needs Bethnet ACC to play it.

Reminder that Fallout on GoG lacks a lot of shit from the original games before they were removed.

>>5766291
E1M1 sounds like the midi version of some kid's slow and crappy cover of E1M1

>>5766370
Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Master Levels.
No Final Doom, no NERVE.wad, no Wolfenstein SS, wrong aspect ratio, all the audio is fucked, needs an account to play, made in fucking Unity

>make a new engine for a rerelease
>game still runs at 35fps

>>5766430
>I thinks its time to Hoard the GOG
Personal GOG installers of Ultimate, II and Final - https://mega.nz/#!yk0i3QSa!lf-5Yz2y1D6zLxfEjKrm8byEZ5JQfyg2ZY4bjUIz-5M

>>5766357

It has local co-op that's all

>>5766456
Save this too, God knows it they force github to remove it
>https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM

WE CANT TRUST IN ZENIMAX !

>>5766448
Better just hack the Switch and use one of the many homebrew ports of Doom for it.

>>5766448
>ps3 doom classic is still the only feature complete console port of Doom 1, 2 and Final
Don't tell me that's gone as well.

>>5766487
anon...

>>5766487
I don't have a PS3 or 4, but Doom 1 & 2 are gone from the Xbone store. I was still able to boot them, though.

>>5766465
Bruh, that's not the release covered by the GPL
https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM/blob/master/linuxdoom-1.10/DOOMLIC.TXT

>>5766487
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1003-NPUB30808_00-DOOMCOMPLETEPACK
it's still here for now, and will potentially be the last official port that properly used the old engine

>>5766465
>>5766501
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/source/doomsrc

>14.99
>it might be gone at any second
>but it's 14.99
I just don't know.

>>5766520
Was supposed to quote
>>5766505

>>5766514

>>5766528
cheeky

Let's assume they wouldn't - is there any source port that Bethesda would be allowed to use for a PC release without so much as asking permission beforehand?

>>5766520
Get on it now, or if you have a modded PS3 then you can always pirate it down the road.

>>5766540
They used to use Prboom back in the day.

>>5766547
Fair enough, so really there's little excuse if they do force the PC versions to Unity.

>>5766540
They're all GPL licensed aren't they? No need to ask for permission.

tfw I can't do the quake slide in QCDE and have no idea if I'm just doing it wrong or if the mod doesn't feature it

>>5766540
They wouldn't need any permission, but still be required to provide source of the binaries they would distribute. That's probably why they chose to remake the engine in Unity instead.

>>5766540
Pretty sure any of the GPL-licensed ports can be legally sold, which would include more or less all of the mainstream ports. It's why the Delta Touch guy is allowed to charge money.

>>5766553
>>5766556
>>5766557
Ah right, okay. Cheers for the info.

>>5766556
funny when people say that all bethesda games are mod friendly, but they are slimy bastards that are against OpenSource modding.

>>5765785
great now add Doom 3 as well as Resurrection of evil and the lost mission

and throw in final Doom

>>5766554
Oh I'm retarded, I see ZMovement has a QCDE patch do that's probably what I need

>>5766427
post it pls

>>5766514
>>5766528
no no, stretch the crop by 2% when Bethesda grabs hold of it.

>>5766554
Quake slide?

>>5766568
The BFG Edition basically got directly ported alongside these. If you don't like BFG Edition then that's a problem, but if you were fine with it then it's pretty much exactly that. The Classic Doom ports are the ones with the problems, however, and there's no Final Doom and no No Rest for the Living.

I just wanted to play Doom on the Switch without having to hack it. It runs on fucking everything. How did Bethesda manage to fuck it up?

>>5766573

>>5766578
I'd actually consider getting the Doom 3 port if it got gyro controls.

>they fucked up a fucking doom port
Absolutely embarrassing.

>>5766582
Same, oh well. Another company to blacklist I suppose.

so why is everyone butthurt other than blind unity bashing and removing old ports?

>>5765309
>>5766583
Heck yeah

>>5766591
Technically speaking, gameplay-wise it seems to be alright. The problems are always-online DRM for a game with no online multiplayer, scrubbing all association with the original devs at id, audio problems (mainly slowed down music), being the censored versions of the games so no Nazis, and not all of the content (no NRFTL, no Final Doom).

The sound issues can be fixed, but everything else is shit business practices rather than inherently the port.

>>5766583
Please don't make me sin today.

>>5766576
I mean the crouch slide, I see some people doing it in QCDE but it turns out you need Zmovement unless I'm missing something

>>5766603
Always online

>>5766606
>no nazis
>on a nintendo platform that had TNC

what
why
how can you fuck up this badly
how

>>5766603
inferior to what you can get for free on homebrew quality wise, no name-dropping the old devs, DRM, it's quite evidently a cashgrab. pick your poison.

>>5766609
It's not always online, you need to authenticate it once. Sound is fucked, though.

>>5766613
Because it's based off of the 360/BFG Edition's censorship, which censored the nazis, swastikas and Wolfenstein elements so it could release in Germany.

>>5766603
>shelling out money to bethesda for old classic doom
yeah man, like what's up with people

>>5766616

>>5766623
>>5766616
God damn that looks terrible. MS Paint-tier sprites that arent even sexy. Just play H-Doom bro.

>>5766617
The game won't start if the console isn't connected to the internet.

>>5766623
who made this atrocity

>>5766627
>always online DRM on a game this old
this is all
you know
tiresome

>>5766603
You need to be 18 to post here

>>5766627
>hey lets get Doom for the Switch so we can have Doom on the go, especially with the Switch Lite coming up. it's only $10 for two games
>what do you mean i can't play it if i don't have a local or personal wi-fi source at all to authenticate it on every time i boot the game up

>>5766635
I need to be 18 to not care about console ports of a 25 year old PC game?

>>5766583
when is daisy going to take doomguy's massive human cock and bear his hybrid children

>>5766638
They're not ports, they're remakes.

>>5766627
It will, just not the first time. That's not what always online means. This is still shit, I'm just saying it's not always online.

>>5766625
Stylish Hell at least adds some element of interesting gameplay with its enemy variety. Literally don't understand how HDoom doesn't just get boring as fuck, especially right after you've jerked off to it.

>>5766616
>>5766623
Followed through on my setup, huh bruh

>>5766625
>>5766628
I think that's the point,they're supposed to feel out of place.Most of them are meant to look cute.
But yeah a lot of them look odd.
The mod is Stylish Hell btw and it's balls hard.

>>5766514
I really dislike how Doom, Quake, and Wolfenstein are touted as "Bethesda classics" in marketing and articles.

>>5766657
the worst part is that Bethesda and ZeniMax are scumfuck enough on the publisher end that they would sooner simply erase history and tout themselves as the reasons why these things exist to begin with

>>5766229
IT'S DUKE NUKEM 3D MEGATON EDITION ALL OVER AGAIN

>>5766657
Zenimax is satan anon.
im even begging right NOW to activision buy them and remove bethesda from those lawyer scummy jews

>>5766651
Is she the only one you actually kill? That's a shame.

>>5766651
>"stylish"
I gotta stop you right there pardner

>>5766646
>especially right after you've jerked off to it.
H-Doom is too boring even for that tbqph

All these ultra cringe monstergirl mods but you can't even get one good doomgirl mod that works with the bigger gameplay mods.

>>5766613
Because fucking Germany.

>>5766671
A cute doomgirl getting sandwiched by bishounen and bara demons would be nice.

>>5766671
>cringe as an adjective

And you were doing so well too...

>>5766665
Technically you kill them all.No exception.

>>5766668
I mean you have versions with different outfits,so yeah it counts

>>5766646
>>5766670
Yeah H-Doom might have some really smooth animations but it's so boring.

Also get that abomination out of my face

>>5766671
>ultra cringe
Come on,mate

Tthere's Lt. Typhon. Which is great.

>>5765785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbvzlfjiCw

*Spits water*

What

Oh nonononono

>>5766687
Seems like most of them you just shoot unconscious. There is no blood after all. But ending text phrasing almost implies the Giantess really is kill. Or maybe I'm just thinking too deep.

Would you look at that wall texture

>>5766301
stick an ssg up your ass and pull the trigger politics nigger

>>5766695
CODE OF CONDUCT TO FUCKING PLAY A GAME THAT IS OLDER THAN ME BY A FUCKING YEAR

YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING
KIDDING
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK MAN
CAN YOU FUCKING MAKE THIS WORSE AT THIS POINT?
POR EL AMOR DE DIOS Y LA PUTA MADRE
A QUIEN CARAJO SE LE OCURRE

>>5766702
The Baron?

>>5766702
Nigga I knew they were going all out with classic references but this...
I don't mind though,that's dope.

>>5766695
These aren't legally binding, why do they still try?

>>5766702
I want the classic baron back. I can do without the edgy ass golem thing with arm blades they're pushing.

>>5766690
i need to remind myself EVERY DAY to NEVER believe in the hype

>>5766704
>>5766715
Primary >>5766367 they are all Scummy lawyers

>>5766695
the demonic skull at the bottom is fitting

>>5765060
it has "gold bars" being sold on steam

I would make a long ass rant about this but....
I seriously don't know what to say what the fuck is wrong with Bethesda when it comes to old franchises.

>Fallout 76
-Worst entry in the series,an absolute disaster in terms of gameplay and glitches.
-Filled with an abysmal amout of microtransactions.
-Everything that made the series great it's fucking gone
-Overall is a fat scam

>Wolfenstein Youngblood
-A Spin Off of a reboot whose last entry that said fuck off to what made the previous two games good.
-This one decided to go higher by filling it with grinding and RPG elements shit
-More microtransactions
-"Killing nazis is fun isn't it well you're not allowed to kill those because their level is too high"

>Old Doom ports on modern consoles
-Made with Unity so it should be better
-Expansions for Classic Doom are missing,music and sounds are ass
-Runs worse than it does on DOS,a fucking 20+ year old game on current gen
-You need an account in order to play them
-Only Doom 3,the least liked of the series gets the best treatment

All this in less than a year

>>5766690
>>5766695
>code of conduct on fucking DOOM
>always online DRM on fucking DOOM
i dont know what to feel anymore man

>>5765309
>puffy tuft

>>5766743
The first one is just basic EULA type shit you just skip through anyway.

The second is more unforgiveable. Apparently you just log in once and you can play offline but granted they'll likely fuck that over sooner or later.

>>5766742
Zenimax is KEEN on ripping off and envy EVERYTHING that Blizzard entertainment does it, EVEN Copy the same scummy shit and OFC the BNET name.

THEY REALLY want to be the NEW blizzard.

>>5766742
Don't forget that Doom Eternal will have DLCs and "year X passes", skins, levels and sound packs.

Also Commander Keen announcement that came this year too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQjGPfkEe8

>>5766742
Fallout fans would tell you it already went to shit since 3, but 76 is a ride of so many issues, you can make 20 movies out of the shit related to the game.
Rage 2 was also kind of bland, as if they're trying to compete with Borderlands 2.

>>5766690
>>5766743
>>5766695
Apparently you can still play it offline after you log in.
Still bullshit though.

>>5766752
>>5766730
>>5766664
>>5766465
So is English not your first language?

>>5766757
I don't see a problem in them confirming single player expansions.

>>5766772
depends if they're good enough
but preorders in general are shit and i hope they became available in some form later on

>>5766772
I do: I don't trust modern Beth to make Id style single player expansions.

They just published a game that is co-op but has no local co-op. Also requires you to log into steam so you can log into the beth launcher to play.

>>5766772
Remember how great TNC's single player expansions were?

>>5766687
>Also get that abomination out of my face
:^)

>>5766778
The preorders are going to be inevitable. You don't miss out by not preordering the DLCs.
>>5766783
No, but I played about 5 minutes of TNC before getting bored because the game didn't start.

>>5766762
and why are you giving a flying fuck about this you 56% muttnigger?
ZENIMAX IS RUINING DOOM AND CLASSIC FPS HISTORY AS RANDY FUCKING DICKFORD DID WITH DUKE NUKEM.

GOD KNOWS IF MACHINEGAMES IS WORKING ON A QUAKE REBOOT WITH A FUCKLOAD OF POLITICAL SHIT SHOVED IN

>>5766783
That’s Machinegames, this is id.

>>5766781
I does feel like Beth is giving a bit more creative freedom with Doom Eternal compared to Doom 2016. I mean, compare the promo and cover art for 2016 compared to Eternal. Doesn't stop Beth from milking the shit out it, though.

>>5766790
>/pol/ memes

oh no, it's underage

>>5766790
ESL motherfucker

>>5766786
Now you done it

>>5766792
I think i'll be happy with Eternal even if Bethesda makes me regret having it on a pre-order right now, but to be fair "more creative freedom" resulted in Machinehead's The New Colossus.

Doomhunter looks pretty neat.

>>5766809
i expected him to have homing rockets and a chainsaw slash
i just wish they'd shown his possible other attacks

>>5766757
>Mobile Commander Keen
I've completely removed that filth from my memory.
Better die with a shitty entry than reborn as a mobile game

About the DLC and Pre-order,I wouldn't mind if it was just these but I know there's gonna more and worse.
Something like Real Ending or Missing Chapters.

Bethesda might demand that ID shoves them just to make up for the big losses with Wolfenstein and Fallout.
Everything is possible.

And if that happens,then you can bet your ass it's going to be nuclear.

>>5766809
He's the best new monster so far.
Better than the Marauder.

It's like Doom equivalent of Ridley from Metroid.

>>5766036
Are there any mods that remove the Nazis from DOOM? I don't think I've seen one, not counting mods that just use the SS enemy slot for an OC enemy in a partial/total conversion mod.

>>5766790
you're shoving political shit into this thread, fuck off back to where you came you fucking brown skinned teen

>>5766831
just one joke mod that turns iwads into an identical censorship to the re-releases, parallel to a mod that uncensors said wads

>>5766831
They replace the SS Soldiers with aliens in Ancient Aliens.

>>5766829
Remember, Mobile Keen is not canon to the original id timeline.

>>5766758
A lot of Fallout fans really liked New Vegas, so it hasn't been a complete loss, but Bethesda's own takes on Fallout obviously leave a lot to be desired.

>>5766834
It's okay when /pol/dditors do it though, it literally always is.

>>5766842
apparently in Youngblood, BJ did see the original timeline at some point thanks to a jewish plot device, so timelines literally exist now

>>5766225
Fava Beans, classic and easy.

>>5766831
Yes but it depends on the theme of the mod.

Bratwurst has Wolfenstein 3D as the enemies but DOOM SS soldiers are replaced with Blake Stone soldiers.
For example.

>>5766849
Jewish plot device?

>>5766849
reminds me of how some people expect time travel in star wars

>>5766853
Something called the God Key, which apparently can not only empower technology but also see into different dimensions. BJ saw a timeline where the Nazis lost WWII and his daughters were born regardless, so presumably that was the original timeline.

Where in the fuck are all of these secrets on e2m1 "The installation"
I'm trying to find all of the secrets in quake.

even when it's being bad it's still a good boy

>>5766857
They're gonna do it.

>>5766859
Got it,so that means that BJ fighting the Harbinger in Wolfenstein RPG is technically canon now?

>>5766857
>>5766867
It's the only thing they have left really

>>5766871
>phone RPGs
>canon
uuuuuuuuugh

>>5766880
the phone rpgs are really fucking good, don't tell me you don't have a phone? how do you message your girlfriend when you're at work?

>>5766886

>>5766859
>no Arthur
Gay

>>5766640
>uses "fuck like rabbits" as a military tactic
>entire army of hell-slaying mutants rises in one generation

>>5766862
SICK

>>5766363
I can't get it working on gzdoom