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Was Chun-li the first playable female video game character to make the concept of a main leading lady mainstream and acceptable? I cannot think of anyone as significant before her, there was Samus, but Samus was a bait and trick at the end. Was there anyone else in retro history that pulled it off quite like her? She's iconic 30 years later.

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Funfact: Chun-li's popularity was the main reason devs pushed for mirror matches that did not already exist in world warrior.

1/2

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5748047

>>5748045
2/2

>> No.5748053
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5748053

I thought females were pretty common in video games at the time

>> No.5748056

>>5748053
So who is that?

>> No.5748067

>>5748040
>chun-li
>main leading
she was 1 out of 8 and never gets her own game, you can't call her leading. but to answer your question, there's lara croft. that being said, the concept of a female protagonist wasn't as alien as you'd think back then. I'd say more but
>acceptable
yeah you should just go back to /v/

>> No.5748072

>>5748056
Her name is Phantasy Star obviously.

>> No.5748074

>>5748067
Lara creator said he was inspired by virtua fighter in context of creating a female lead.

>> No.5748086

>>5748067
>yeah you should just go back to /v/

what a pretentious fuck you are

>> No.5748095

>>5748040
>Samus was a bait and trick

EVERYONE knew that Samus was female.

You're also forgetting Princess Toadstool in Super Mario Bros. 2 and Ms. Pac-Man of course.

>> No.5748102

>>5748040
>Was X the first playable female video game character to make the concept of a main leading lady mainstream and acceptable?
Dilate.

>> No.5748107

>>5748053
Even in Japan, female player characters weren't super common in the 80s. Phantasy Star was notable because of that.
That changed in the 90s of course, with all the beat 'em ups, fighting games, and shooters with female pilots and flying witches.

>> No.5748110

>>5748102
?

>> No.5748146

>>5748107
Are you stupid or just a /v/tard?
For fuck sake at least do some research before posting crap.
https://twitter.com/kenichiro_taka/status/1150732413007347712

>> No.5748154
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>>5748146
cool beans my doot but almost no one knows who that is anymore while Chun-li is still a household name. This isn't about "first ever" its about the first biggest one.

>> No.5748158

Ms. Pac-Man

1982

>> No.5748162

>>5748095
Thank you for not calling her Peach. Only newfags at life call her Peach.

>> No.5748165

>>5748162
Peach is her original name. Eggman is also the original name. Seethe harder.

>> No.5748175

>>5748047
Is Chun-Li this popular really?

Is this a jap/amerifat thing?

>> No.5748190
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>>5748175
Are you being silly? Yes. She was crazy popular. She was literally just in that movie "ready player one" Onitsuka just released a shoe marketing her.

>> No.5748195

>>5748165
Found the newfag boys.

>> No.5748202

>>5748086
he was right it seems

>> No.5748204

Just letting you know that you're all insufferable human beings and sometimes your patents cry because of it.

>> No.5748205

>>5748154
Classic american.

>> No.5748210

>>5748202
Seriously, no wonder /vr/ is dead, you guys are insufferable on another level. /v/ is full of shitposters for sure but you guys talk like actual cunts.

>> No.5748220

Ninja Princess

>> No.5748221

>>5748040
I find it problematic how you say "acceptable" as that seems to imply like as though there was some terrible anti-feminist bias before that. Mostly boys play videogames and are about mostly things males would do in real life, that's why the main characters are generally male. There was no "progression" as sjws would have you believe, females never discriminated against in that way.

>> No.5748227

>>5748221
LITERALLY no one is talking about femenism or SJW's except for you retard. Stop looking for reasons to discuss politics, this is just a thread about Chun-li, no one said ANYTHING discrimination you cunt.

>> No.5748243

>>5748040
>make the concept of a main leading lady mainstream and acceptable
I'd call you an ESL but I know you're just a retarded underage. You can't think of anything let alone anything from long before you were born. Zoom zoom.

>> No.5748248

>>5748243
What the fuck is an ESL? I was born 1990 as well.

>> No.5748249
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Chun-Li probably was one of the first to make acceptable or popular a strong female character, but there were examples of female videogame characters before: The Phantasy Star RPGs, Wonder Momo, Metroid, Marfchen's Maze, Legend of the Valkyrie, Flash Gal, Thyra from Gauntlet, etc.

There was also a pretty popular spanish game for 8-bit computers titled Phantis about a sci-fi heroine who had to rescue her male comrade. Pretty much the reverse of the usual plots of that era.

>> No.5748258

>>5748190
Over here most people don't even know what Street Fighter is, let alone Chun-Li.

>> No.5748264

>>5748258
>over here

where?

>> No.5748278

>>5748248
English second language.

>> No.5748318

>>5748040
I came, thx

>> No.5748327

>>5748154
that's probably because she's attached to an extremely fucking popular franchise that every normalfag grew up on.

even family guy writers made SF gags

>> No.5748332

>>5748327
Street Fighter is popular BECAUSE of its characters anon.

>> No.5748350

>>5748047
FUCK I want a Chun-Li gf so bad.

>> No.5748353

>>5748243
Prove him otherwise fag.
As for OP >>5748040
Chun-Li is literally called the "First Lady of Videogames". So yeah.

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fuck op, let's save this thread by posting vr muscle ladies

>> No.5748375

>>5748040
>What were Phantasy Star 1 and Valis
Damn OP you're retarded.

>> No.5748381

>>5748353
>Chun-Li is literally called the "First Lady of Videogames". So yeah.
By who, fag game journos who never played anything before the mid 90s? Chun is far from being the first anything in games

>> No.5748393

>>5748146
>Out of the 1000 games on the Famicom, 5 had women on their covers that got Takagi's attention, plus one title joke
Anon, are you implying this means that playable girls were "super common" in 80s Japanese games?
I suppose technically you can define "super common" to be as low a percentage as you like.

>> No.5748397

>>5748381
It's not meant to be taken literally. Rather, it means she is the poster child for female characters because of the impact she had.

>> No.5748405

>>5748353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4OzWpBQFQs

>> No.5748432

>>5748381
Jesus christ autism

>> No.5748468

>>5748248
You're not fooling anyone

>> No.5748482

>>5748067
People live in an alternate reality now where women just got the right to vote last week and slavery ended yesterday. It’s pathetic.

Women have not been excluded from video games for as long as video games have existed. The reason it’s a predominantly male hobby is because it’s highly mechanical and relies on spatial reasoning. The same is true of sports.

>> No.5748486

>>5748086
How is he pretentious

>> No.5748513

>>5748040
Her movie sucked donkey balls wtf was that? Even Street Fighter had a better plot if you can believe that.

>> No.5748518

>>5748221
/thread

>> No.5748549

>>5748468
I didn't know what it meant. What the fuck are you on about "fooling"?

>> No.5748550

>>5748482
No one wrote about exclusion though

>> No.5748558

>>5748040
Go fuck yourself.

>> No.5748559
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>>5748040
Shes only popular because shes has big meaty thicc thighs and ass shots when doing spinning bird kick. More fap bait than leading lady.

>> No.5748560

>>5748040
Needs more leg day.

>> No.5748564

>>5748559
woah what awful things for people to like

>> No.5748568

>>5748558
is /vr/ unironically the faggiest board on this site?

>> No.5748690

>>5748559
leading fap bait

>> No.5748763
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>>5748249
In the 8- and 16-bit era were quite a few games with strong female characters, especially many of those low budget games. Like the game you named or games like Lorna, Vixen and maybe Entity.

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>>5748053
Ones who could fight purely on their own terms without aid were a rarity though.

>> No.5748807

>>5748549
Just ignore him, he's one of those kinds of people who hear that a place is a "tough bar" and punches a random guy in there to prove he's tough.

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>> No.5748840
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>>5748053
They weren't common.
They existed, yes. But not typically anything like Chun-Li, a prominent playable character in a fighting game.
JRPG characters are bit different, though. Sure you can give Phantasy Star some credit for a female protagonist but JRPGs are still sort of "anime in a videogame" and you already had female protagonists in anime like Nausicaä.

>> No.5748848

>>5748518
it's 100% true but doesn't really /thread the discussion...

>> No.5748928
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>>5748040
I think Lara Croft is an even greater example of what you mean, OP. The impact she had one the mainstream media was huge, even grandmothers knew about her someway or another. This is one of many commercial in which she was featured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDJs1AGeNH8 but it didn't stop on advertisements, the phenomenon lived through out other means too. And I'm not even a fanboy, I just remember how much she was looked upon; actually I'm a sucker for Chun-Li, imho it's her that should've get the cake.

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>> No.5748942

>>5748056
>zoomer who knows nothing about games pre 2005 didn't even lurk for two minutes before shitting up the board with his threads
I'm not trying to be mean but have some common sense and lurk more, your silly question would have answered itself after a week of being here

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>>5748040
Here in PAL land it was the Great Giana Sisters that made playing as girls acceptable for everyone.

>> No.5748951

>>5748940
yeah she was the villain though.

>> No.5748956

>>5748175
She's easily the most iconic character in the game after Ryu (perhaps even more iconic in some ways, considering how generic Ryu looks compared to Chun-Li's distinctive design).

>> No.5748964

>>5748264
East Yuro.

>> No.5748967

>>5748956
She looks like any other Chinese female designed by an anime artist Jap to me.

>> No.5748995
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>> No.5748997

>>5748967
guess you just aren't very perceptive

>> No.5749014

>>5748997
Yeah, because there is so much to be perceptive about Jap anime fap material...

Stop being a weeb with his head up his ass, we're talking about videos game doodles ffs.

>> No.5749024

>>5748995
holy shit my fucking nigga. are you me?

>> No.5749032
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>>5749024
You're not (you) you're you

>> No.5749331

>>5749014
>Yeah, because there is so much to be perceptive about Jap anime fap material...
You wouldn't know if there was. That's a consequence of limited cognition.

>> No.5749337

>>5749331
Sure thing pseud.

>> No.5749387

>>5748040
Christ Almighty.

>> No.5749429

>>5748964
You're basically third world, makes sense.

>> No.5749445
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I wish she was as thick as Nicki makes her out to be

>> No.5749501

>>5748040
>there was Samus, but Samus was a bait and trick at the end.
God, fuck this thread and fuck you OP

>> No.5749505

>>5748249
Man this poster and your description bring me such a Barbarella feeling on this game, maybe I should try hahaha

>> No.5749653

>>5748804
Alisia Dragoon, for those who don't know.

>> No.5749701

>>5748807
>summerfag thinks he's in a "tough bar"

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>>5749445

>> No.5749809

>>5749736
based & saved

>> No.5750060

>>5748964
>>5749429
And it's a lie. Street Fighter 2 arcades were all over the place after the system change. This anon >>5748964 is just some millennial zoomer trash.

>> No.5750073

>>5750060
There were more popular arcades here, like Mustafata.

>> No.5750080
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this is my first MCQT

>> No.5750243

>>5748040
Jesus Christ, are you serious? At least google before making a dumb thread like that, zoomers I swear.

>> No.5750364

>>5750080
Holy shit it's motherfucking Wurm. I loved that game and its anime-as-fuck plot. People died. Melodrama happened. And the gameplay itself was pretty sweet, if in part simply because it was fairly unique.

I almost wanna make a thread for Wurm, but the only insight I have is "man that game was cool".

>> No.5750414

>>5748040
She was and still is FAP material, nothing more, nothing less.

>> No.5750416

There were tons of action and adventure games where you could play as a woman in the early 80s. Especially on the famicom. Layla, athena, wing of madoola, baraduke, valkyrie. I was researching this a while ago and the earliest human female playable character I could find was miss mopp from a 1982 zx spectrum game

>> No.5750425

>>5748040
There have been female main characters for about as long as there have been male main characters.

In Ultima III: Exodus (made in 1983) you created the main character yourself and the choice for gender was Male, Female and Other.

>> No.5750435

>>5748154
Are you fucking kidding me? Phantasy Star was a huge RPG title at the time.

And it wasn't a big deal.

The worst it got was that sometimes little boys didn't want to play as the girl character in multiplayer, but then they'd happily play Tomb Raider, and talk about how awesome Tanya Adams was in Red Alert and how cool she was to control.

>> No.5750454

>>5748040
She would not be able to hold those weights like that.

>> No.5750563
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>>5750454

>> No.5750565
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Chun was the first female vidyagemu idol/celebrity. After SFII female characters became common place in all sorts of games. I think she is based on some 70's HK kung fu flick character. Forgot the title.

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>>5748190

Why wouldn't they make it look like her actual shoes?

>> No.5750617

>>5750565
I could easily see her being based on Angel Mao or maybe Change Pei Pei but I swear I remember hearing she was based on some actual martial arts competitor once and I can't find shit on google.

>> No.5750675

>>5748248
1990? you're a baby

>> No.5750690

>>5750425
>other
What does that do?

>> No.5750697

i always thought it would be funny if randomly when someone tried to pick her, she'd be unavailable, you'd see an animation of her buying tampons and then a dialogue box popped up saying "what a horrible night to have a curse" ala castlevania 2.

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>>5748040
Chun Li was to female game characters what the ipod was to mp3 players.

We get it, nerds, she wasn't the "first", strictly speaking. She was the first, however, to gain mass appeal and broad recognition. Alys from Phantasy Star is a literal "who?" for 99.9 percent of people

>> No.5750851

>>5748040
>>5750847
Muh dik
Goddamn

>> No.5750867

>>5750847
fuck you dumbass normie, follow your sheeple and suck a cock

>> No.5750870
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>>5750080
I rented that and had a pretty good time
I liked the story scenes so much I recorded then with a VCR

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>>5750867
Holy crap why haven't you killed yourself yet, baby nerd? I know this may seem hard for you to believe, but not everybody who played SNES games in the 1990s was a pathetic loser like you were

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>>5750416
>There were tons of action and adventure games where you could play as a woman in the early 80s. Especially on the famicom.
Eh, I've scoured the Famicom library looking for cute anime girls games to play and there really aren't that many female-character focused games on Famicom. There's like 30 times more games that are just about men doing stuff.
Fortunately the PC Engine came along to fix that depressing situation.

>> No.5750905

>>5750880
follow some feminists-thots and castrate your useless self

>> No.5750968

>>5748040
I'd say Tyris Flare, but she wasn't as popular. Loved playing as her though.

>> No.5750986
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>>5750905
I married the preacher's daughter and have my first son on the way, you filthy degenerate.

Have sex

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>>5748040
Time Gal 1985
Dumb zoomer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uqSgrCx10

>> No.5751015

>>5750867
>this is probably an unironic post

>> No.5751047

>>5750617

http://streetwriterpodcast.blogspot.com/2015/07/how-fight-culture-became-fighting-game_6.html

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>>5750454
>she's a weak little bitch like me

>> No.5751054

>>5750454
She isn't curling you retard, it's a leg excercise

>> No.5751163

>>5750080
>>5750870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmuC4ZY9dtY

>> No.5751187

>>5748040
she wasnt the main lead at all you retard

>> No.5751242

>>5748040
There were female protagonists (Valis etc.), but, not counting Samus or characters after SFII (Lara Croft, Jill Valentine, Sonya Blade, Taki etc.)--it's actually interesting, who else is there among the major games? Hmm.
Oh right, there's Blaze from Streets of Rage. There were a few moderately popular characters like Valkyrie no Densetsu et al. Terra from FFVI came three years after the Chunster. In Japan, DQIV's Alena and the Meena/Maya sisters were very popular (and the protagonist could be female). Right, Sailor Moon, GitS and Slayer games... but that's not original video game properties. What else? Guardian Legend and stuff, but that's even more niche than Valis or Popful Mail. PC98 and Sharp adventure games often had female protagonists, but I don't remember any influential ones even in Japan.
Oh right, the Golden Axe girl, Tyris.
Dixie Kong and Roll weren't protagonists by a long shot.
Princess Leia is iconic and predates them all, but doens't come from a video game--otherwise she would've definitely qualified.

Yeah, with the exception of Samus (which WAS iconic as fuck, man--and, unlike Li, Samus actually WAS the protagonist; in SFII, Ryu is the actual protagonist), Chunster was the first important and enduring female character that came from a video game. Sonya, Lara, Morrigan, Taki et al--they all came after her.

>> No.5751245

>>5751187
She got more popular than Ryu, so, although she wasn't supposed to be ltierally the protagonist in the backstory, she ended up being the face of SFII for sure.

>> No.5751585

>>5751245
>She got more popular than Ryu
she didnt
she got popular for sure, but her being the face of the franchise is pure headcanon

>> No.5751596

Which do you prefer:
Chun-li's ample, firm, muscular butt
Mai Shiranui's fat, chunky, jiggly butt

>> No.5751608

>>5750435
>Are you fucking kidding me? Phantasy Star was a huge RPG title at the time.
Where? Not anywhere that mattered that's for sure

>> No.5751610

>>5750870
ah, the "don't make it look like an anime" boxart

so they made them look like sheeeiiitttt.

>> No.5751613

>>5750989
Oh yeah, remember all those Time Gal t-shirts and action figures?
Shut up

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>>5749445
>>5749736
fuck that's hot

>> No.5751637

>>5751585
What? Ryu was never particularly popular. Chun-Li, Bison and Sagat were always more recognizable. I learned who E.Honda was years before I learned who Ryu was.

>> No.5751674

Does Morrigan like being called mommy?

>> No.5751730

>>5751242
>leaving out Peach from SMB2
Nigga

>> No.5751739

>>5751596
mai

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>> No.5751818

>>5751637
tranny cope

>> No.5751924

>>5751047
Angela Mao is so cool.

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>>5749736
T H I C C

>> No.5752176

>>5748175
Lots of people who've never played Street Fighter jerk off to porn of her.

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>>5748040
In a world where Samus Aran exists? No, and she wasn't a bait and trick at the end either you retard.

>> No.5752282

>>5749445
Black women are gross.

>> No.5752397

>>5752282
>a woman who looks like half man half ape half fat is gross
You prefer 100% pixels for your auto-sex?

>> No.5752481

>>5748095
Nobody back then knew Seamus was a female back then. Mags used to have "turn samus into a girl" codes posted all the time it wasnt until part 2 was close to being made people realized it was a girl all along stfu with your revisionist history you fucking zoomer.

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>>5752481
>i'm an anrgry baby who gets very angry about things youtube told me to get angry about

>> No.5752541

>>5752282
Let Nicki sit on your face or gtfo >>>/pol/

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>>5751674
She doesn't care, you're of no interest to her whatsoever. Darkstalkers canon is that Succubi used to feed on human dreams, but that in recent years humans have stopped dreaming so her species is in danger of extinction. And you're not strong enough to give her a thrilling fight. So you're of no use from that angle either. She would simply ignore you.

>> No.5752691

chun-li gained recognition because she was sexy & badass. She was a great character and was hot. Contrast that with Mortal Kombat 1 which was popular as fuck around the same time which had Sonya. Sonya was bland as shit and nobody gave a fuck about her. Her move set was dogshit and nobody enjoyed playing her. She used her legs all the time but it wasn't the same because she was in a skin suit. She wasn't badass either. She didn't have style.

Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Chun-Li is sexy and badass but also a good character with a good moveset and not a fucking shoto clone.

>> No.5752703

>>5752552
I may be wrong but I think originally Morrigan did feed off of sex, at least it was never implied she was different from other succubuses, and was only changed to dreams later on for obvious reasons.

I forget which interview it was but originally Morrigan was actually going to be a vampire like Dimitri. Some American member at Capcom USA saw the concept art for it and instead suggested to make her into a succubus, which the Japanese members had never even heard of. After they learned what a succubus was they loved the idea so much they redesigned her into a succubus and dropped the vampire idea instantly.

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>>5752703

>> No.5752709

>>5752552
If she'd waited a few years she could have had a whole generation that did nothing but dreaming

>>5752703
>I may be wrong
100% guaranteed that impulse poster who can't take a few seconds to fact check is worong

>> No.5752723

>>5752709
I double checked and I was only half wrong. She originally did feed on the life force of humans, though it never implied she used sex to gain it, and later it was changed to feeding off dreams.

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>>5752723
not him but the most she's ever shown doing in Darkstalkers is kissing to drain a soul.

mommy!

>> No.5752778

>>5748956
Extremly iconic character design, thats why she is still around. Chun is gonna outlive us all.

>> No.5752793

>>5748053
They were. The 80s and 90s were less racist and obsessed with sex than today.

>> No.5752803

>>5751054
You've obviously never gripped any heavy ass dumbbells. Ms. Chingchong legs has what looks like 110 lbs in each hand. She couldn't hold them like that. You definitely couldn't.

>> No.5752804

>>5748482
no you just walk around so furious about those talking points that you cant have a normal conversation about video games you fucking spaz

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>> No.5753076

>>5752793
I wouldn't say less racist since SF2 itself is one of the prime examples of racial stereotyping. People were just taking them as a joke instead of being angry about it.

>> No.5753093

>>5752176
>t. actual underage

>> No.5753098

>>5748040
>/vr/ continues to miss the actual point of OP's post and keeps posting a bunch of literally who's no one gives a flying fuck about or remember outside of here just to be contrarian

unironically more obnoxious than both /v/ and /vg/, never change /vr/

>> No.5753103

>>5753076
>>5752793
It's at worst insensitive. Calling it actively racist is implying an intent that just frankly isn't there.

>> No.5753114

>>5752803

Right hand... Maybe - hand is more or less in line with the shoulder (straight down line). Left hand - no fucking way. Arm is straight and weight is in front of her, she would need a monster back and forearms to hold it like this, what the fuck were they thinking?

>> No.5753121

>>5750597
>a cute muscle girl in a Japanese retro game?
>oh right, it wasn't Japanese
the anime face threw me off for a few seconds, but the outfit is surprisingly memorable despite barely being there

>> No.5753307

>>5748928
She was a fad.

>> No.5753528

>tfw everyone is too young to remember DOS games.
>tfw no Jill of the Jungle.
Faggots.

>> No.5753627

>>5748559
i remember that scene, what was it called?

>> No.5753638

>>5748995
I feel oooold boy.

>> No.5753828

>>5753528
>>5753075
Um...

>> No.5754686

>>5751596
Fuck off Sybb

>> No.5754756

>>5748056
That's a bit unfair; SEGA has tried its level best to make sure no-one remembers the original Phantasy Star Quartet.

>> No.5754857

We still don't really have one that is taken seriously. I promise you that when I say this, I'm not some retarded feminist, it's just the truth. Sure people love certain characters but they're all ultimately sex objects (Lara Croft) and/or shallow (Chun Li, Samus, Peach, Zelda) i.e. they don't talk or do feminine things so take away the sprite and you'd have no idea they were even female.

There has yet to be a female character with a developed personality who has been celebrated for that reason. And I'm not saying those characters don't exist, there's plenty (maybe not "tons"), but no one cares. Even when these characters happen to have both mainstream appeal and a well-rounded personality, no one could tell you anything about the latter. Like, take any Final Fantasy girl; some of these characters are actually somewhat interesting, but whenever I see some mental midget try to describe their personalities, it's always either completely wrong or obviously headcanon.

Nobody talks about characters like April Ryan, Meryl Silverburgh, any Forgotten Realms female. And I'm not saying these women are like, amazing and rank with real literature or anything, but for what they are they're pretty compelling. Even characters like Jill Valentine or Sarah Kerrigan aren't bad, but the creators and/or fans seem to willfully twist these characters into sex objects or "BaDaSs WoMeN" over time.

I want to look at StarCraft specifically. The Brood War campaign basically ended with Kerrigan being this visually disgusting monster who ruthlessly backstabbed former comrades. Her one-time love interest vowed to kill her, and she unleashed a wave of destruction that ruined a galaxy's worth of lives. In SC2, it takes five minutes for them to backpedal on this and make her look semi-hot, a barely-conscious figurehead with none of her former cunning or wry humor, and this same love interest pining for her and wishing to redeem her.

>> No.5754863

>>5749445
The hottentot venus.

>> No.5754892

>>5754857
>There has yet to be a female character with a developed personality who has been celebrated for that reason.
hardly any male characters fit that description either. Which male SF2 character has more developed personality than Chun-Li? They are all cartoons.
these are videogames for fucks sake. What is Link's personality? He is an archetypal boy hero that's it.
> i.e. they don't talk or do feminine things so take away the sprite and you'd have no idea they were even female.
that's because most videogames aren't about doing feminine things, they're gender-neutral at best and many are flat-out masculine.

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>>5754857
All video game characters are shallow. Mario jumps, collects the coins, rescues the princess, all the while we never learn what his inner thoughts are, what kind of music he listens to, what his favorite kind of pasta sauce is, or what his character flaws are. Link doesn't even have any proper lines, he just gulps, gasps, and grunts through his journey. Donkey Kong doesn't even give a fuck, he just wants K.Rool to stop stealing his damn bananas

They're shallow because it makes it easier for the audience to step into their shoes and see themselves as the protagonist of the story. Do you really think that Samus Aran has less character development than the Master chief? We don't even know what his face looks like. Meanwhile, Samus was given a game with actual character development, and people hated it. They saw the melodrama as a distraction from the gameplay.

Video Game characters, in general, don't get popular for the same reasons that movie characters or characters from a novel get popular. The audience is looking for different things

>> No.5754926

>>5748040
Found the SJW feminazi.
Enough with the femminist inferiority complex already.

>> No.5754929

>>5754892
>>5754896
I watch people write virtual dissertations on characters like John Marston, Nameless One, Big Boss, Squall, the comic relief voiceover dude from Portal 2 whose name escapes me, Handsome Jack, the Braid guy, etc.

Yeah the masses generally prefer blank slates like Link, but the developed male characters do get some recognition. Never read more than a sentence about any of the ones I named, except basic acknowledgement.

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>>5754857
See you're looking at this from the wrong angle. We find them sexy BECAUSE we take them seriously. Yeah they look sexy on their own but part of their appeal was always being badass action babes who can kick some serious tail. In the 90s that was the sexy character. It wasn't the kawaiii ugguuu protec me oniii chan dead fish. It was the tough as nail kung fu masters, armored warriors and alien hunters.

You can take someone seriously and sexually and most people would rather do both.

>> No.5754939

>>5748040
Well no, Rosella from King's Quest IV was. You probably don't remember her but that series was huge and IV was pretty well regarded at the time.

>> No.5754949

>>5754929
Those are all niche interest characters, at best, and literal "who?"s for most people.

Some self-important nerd pontificating for hours on end about his favorite video game character might as well be analyzing the prose of comic books. Any actually cultured person knowledgeable about the subject is just going to laugh at them for having pleb tastes.

>> No.5755029

>>5754949
The point is that however little people talk about those characters, they talk even less about the female counterparts.

>> No.5755064 [DELETED] 

>>5755029
Who cares? are they publishing these dissertations in peer-reviewed journals? Or is it just a bunch of nerd jerking each other off?

>> No.5755068

>>5755029
Who cares? are they publishing these dissertations in peer-reviewed journals? Or is it just a bunch of nerds jerking each other off?

>> No.5755134

>>5752552
>dreams
Did you miss the part where she literally killed Pyron and turned him to a withered husk within seconds?

>> No.5755161

>>5754857
>We still don't really have one that is taken seriously
Alright, which of the male VG protag is ever taken seriously

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>>5754936
good post. The point is that yes, there actually is something about them that's more interesting than their naked body, and that's really saying something!

>> No.5755191

>>5755161
Mario

>> No.5755202

>>5755191
considering what's going on with Peach, he's not male

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>>5755169
I really do feel like that people overlook that a large part of sex appeal is personality. Yeah being built like two beach balls stuck to a stop sign is nice but there's more to it than that.

Confidence is sexy.
Being able to drop innuendo with a dry wit is sexy.
Fitness is sexy.
Strength is sexy.
How one projects themselves outwardly reflects who they are inwardly. People who work out and take time to care about their appearance are showing that they care. It's healthy.

>> No.5755332

>>5755214
lmao nigga da fuck are you about, chun-li personality is (and was) bland as fuck
admit you are thirsty and move on

>> No.5755456

>>5750847
As much as I hate Lara and love Chun-Li, it was Lara Croft who got huge recognition worldwide.

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>>5755456
Why the fuck do you hate Lara?

>> No.5755543

>>5755068
How is this relevant to the topic?

>> No.5755558

>>5748072
I think Phantasy Stat is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aliens and doesn’t afraid of anything.

>> No.5755681

>>5755535
Seems like an autistic spic in pretty much every image

>> No.5755860

>>5755029
>The point is that however little people talk about those characters, they talk even less about the female counterparts.
>>5755543
>How is this relevant to the topic?
The supposed evidence you use to support the assertion about how much people talk about male vs female characters appears to be an anecdotal collection of no-name nobodies. That's bogus evidence.

>> No.5755863

>>5755456
Lara got recognition among non-gamer normalfags. Chun-Li was well-known to anyone who actually played games.

>> No.5755875

>>5752184
Yeah she was.

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Ms Pac-Man the first playable female videogame character since 1982

>> No.5756274

>>5755863
Read the OP again.

>> No.5756785

>>5750435
Imagine being this desperate to "prove" something that you tell really obvious bullshit

>> No.5756791

>>5748482
>inserting biotruths into fucking /vr/
(You) need help

>> No.5756793

>>5748559
Man, Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie may be the best video game movie ever made

>> No.5756798

>>5750989
>some shitty Dragon's Lair clone
Big whoop.

>> No.5756895

>>5753076
> I wouldn't say less racist since SF2 itself is one of the prime examples of racial stereotyping. People were just taking them as a joke instead of being angry about it.

If you are sensitive or angry about the use of ethnic stereotypes in vidya, you are the racist.

>> No.5756909

>>5752803
>She couldn't hold them like that.
She can leap 20 feet in the air and kick hard enough to demolish a car in 15 seconds. Rowing 110 lbs is nothing for her.

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Wdym samus was a bait?
Shes the best example.

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>>5756895
I'm not, but that's what happening anyway

>> No.5757625

>>5748949
quintessential londoners

>> No.5758171

>>5756274
Yeah that's why I used the words "NON-GAMER NORMALFAGS" and not "Mainstream," dumbass.
Videogames in general were mainstream by the 90s when Chun-Li was created.

>> No.5758575

>>5758171
Nice damage control attempt, zoomer.

>> No.5759435

>>5748045
That story extremely didn't happen

>> No.5759439

>>5758575
learn to read faggot

>> No.5759520

>>5759435
You really underestimate how big a phenomenon SF2 was in its time. It was like the Fortnite of its day. I could easily see that anecdote happening.

>> No.5760035

>>5759439
It's funny because that's exactly what I told you to do but you preferred the route of mental gymnastics instead like the dumb zoomer you are.

>> No.5761997

>>5754857
You've clearly never played Tomb Raider. Lara has a great personality, she's almost like a female Duke Nukem at times. It's incredibly dishonest to write her off as a dumb bimbo "sex object".

>> No.5762026

>>5748040
What do you think her feet smell like ha ha

>> No.5762127

>>5760035
just kill yourself already I made a point, it was clear, you are too dumb to understand and pulled up memes hoping to fit in

>> No.5762134

>>5761997
it's pretty clear his worldview comes from reading blogs and youtube videos made by fart-sniffing morons and has no perspective.

>> No.5762236

>>5753103
Racism doesn't require intent dude. You sound like a naive teenager.

>> No.5762609

>>5762026
You will never know. The moment you are trying to stick you nose between her toes, she will kick you in the face :(

>> No.5762853

>>5762127
Holy shit you're dumb. Consider taking lessons or just kill yourself perhaps it's better for everyone.

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>>5748040
>tfw fags quickly think of 90's female main characters and choose one that's not even truly main character
Am i a fucking joke to you?

>> No.5763205

>>5748165
it was princess toadstool, the pie was peach flavor, chinese wispers and misunderstanding later...

>> No.5763304

>>5762236
You don't sound like a teenager, you sound like a run of the mill faggot who needs to go back to resetera because nobody here cares about the social justice false narrative you're trying to shill

>> No.5763885

>>5762236
You are literally retarded

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