/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5739907
game gets boring fast. once you get all stages with a ranks in a few hours there's not much else left for you to have fun

>>5739958
It's an arcade game, the fun comes from trying to beat your high scores.

>>5739964
the scoring system and gameplay aren't fun enough to warrant playing for better scores

>>5739958
>this arcade game sucks because I beat it at an easy to moderate difficulty
Tell me more. You seem to be very knowledgeable about retro games.

>>5740008
milking points is shit game design. you must have autism to like it.

what the fuck is this game its literally just superman 64 with better controls

>>5739964
NiGHTS is excellent because skilled play of it still looks cool. There's no goofy glitches or exploits that ruin the core gameplay, with the minor exception of grinding along the floor/ceiling during acrobatic time.

>>5740021
You're playing against the clock. That's kind of the point. Even just playing the game casually it's great. Not sure why everything has to take 100+ hours minimum on easy mode.

>>5739958
this
You're penalized (well not really) for low scores, and rewarded(again, not really) for higher scores. You play on the same 5 or so stages, and that's about it. There isn't much causality and learning where to do the best twirly whirlies and ribbon spins ends up feeling like a chore.

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>>5740131
Oops looks like op outed a brainlet

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>>5739964
all dem juicy links...mmmmm

>>5740164
>it's a hidden gem, prodigies only!
No, really it's Sonic turned into a flying game, and it didn't really "take off" in NA
OST is fucking goat, we all know that though

>>5739907
I guess. The game doesn't convey the whole "do laps and rack up a big score" bit well at all though.
Like, avoiding the end of the section is just a really weird decision, and the game chokepoints where the player can go around the level start/end area, encouraging newer players to just zoom through it and then they never really figure out why they're getting C-ranks.

>>5740073
>Not sure why everything has to take 100+ hours minimum on easy mode.
Even for a short, score focused game, it's still really short. I'm pretty sure Sonic 2 is longer.
When I was done with NiGHTS, my one thought was that each side of the story needed at least one extra stage apiece.

Seriously though, all of Sonic Team's /vr/ games except for like S3&K have the problem of being uncomfortably short (and many of their later ones have the problem too).
Burning Rangers is ludicrously short.

>>5740005
it's kinda like a side-view time-trial racing game when played for better scores
do a bunch of laps, make a big chain, don't fuck up
it's pretty satisfying

>>5740509
NiGHTS and Burning Rangers is going to take you at least a few hours without a guide. Do you really think those games would work if they were longer? They are fast burn and extremely fun games with some of the best music out there.

>>5740518
most of the extra time spent in my first play from start to finish in NiGHTS was just dealing with the bosses
Still, I can accept that NiGHTS is a fast burn, being a largely score attack game, but it's just a little too short.
I can't accept that for Burning Rangers. As cool as it is, it really, really feels like "wait, that's it?" when it's over. It has score and ranking, but it really doesn't feel like that's as major of a focus like say, NiGHTS or SA2.

on an unrelated note, NiGHTS and BR are absurdly pretty Saturn games
both have really terrible polygon breakup, but they've got so much better lighting (seriously, Sonic Team used smooth shading a hell of a lot more than other Saturn developers) and the framerate is decent and they really make the Saturn look like something that could actually compete with the PS1 in visuals

This dude always creeped me the fuck out. I never played "its" game.

>>5740649
even as a kid, I thought NiGHTS was kinda cool
like, a maybe still a bit dorky in some ways, but not creepy or weird at all

>>5740649
>>5740652
Hello, I hope you are doing well!

>>5739907

The thinking man's Mario hack.

>>5739907
this game is brainlet material. it's too short for non-brainlets. if there ever was a Nights 2 (wasn't there a NDS title though?) I would expand it like crazy content-wise.

>>5740649
just because they never defined "its" gender?
it doesn't bug me so much tbqh. Nights is pretty much the only vg character that I know that has that particular quality. it's a dream-like being with dream-like and hazy features. it sorta compliments this figure because dreams, night and the moon are all about confusion, unreal states of mind and atmospheres.

>>5741334
A score-based game can't be too short or too long. It's up to you.
Nights sequel was on Wii. I thought it was OK.
More story-based, and more gimmick type levels experimenting with the controls. Normal Nights levels are neat and look great.

>>5741337
Also first the nature of the Sega Saturn as feeling like a weird console that you're never sure if it ever existed back then or not. Not saying this as a joke because Saturn sold poorly in the west, I mean it. I had the Saturn back then, but it has always felt like this weird system that you'd only find in a dream. The good kind of weird.

>>5741334
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>>5739958

Kirby

>>5741402
>implying

literally babby's first platformer

>>5739907
I tried to play this and couldn't get into it at all. I was using the normal controller. Should I track down the 3D controller? Would that make the game more fun?

>>5741337
Nah nothing like that. I meant "it" in the fact I can't tell what species it is. Its the face, and the outfit, and just the overall aesthetic. Always made me feel uneasy.

It gets spoken of pretty highly so I'll try it soon here.

What was once a monthly NiGHTS thread seems to be a biweekly thread now. I wonder if this pace can be kept up?

>>5739964
Sexy, but why hasn't he hit the ideya container? All of those links could be worth double?

>>5741482
not really. it'll improve the controls but won't make the game any less boring and repetitive.

>>5741609
dilate

>>5741482
watch a gameplay video of someone good at the game, try to play like that
if you still don't like it, the game isn't for you, and that's reasonable -- beyond just clearing the levels, the game is about finding a good line to score points on and doing it as much and fast as possible until the timer is about to run out

>>5741613
ironic coming from the scoretranny.

>>5741621
back to your movie games.

>>5741621
If he's a scoretranny, then you're anustranny
>>>/pol/

nights is an lgbt-approved game, therefore it's garbage

>he still at it.

>>5741721
>muh /pol/ bogeyman

seethe harder sǫyboy

>>5741146
game is super easy, even on hardest settings. Leaning into corners to score kills gets boring, fast.

>>5741758
>>5741746
ok zoomers

>>5740541
I can agree it's short but between the voice acting and anime cut scenes it had a lot that games of that era didn't have.

>>5741760
hey man i love system shock, but let's not pretend the combat was good or in any way skillful.

>>5741746
But you are
who the fuck else would care about trannys on retro games board

I can't tell if widescreen mode actually lets you see further ahead than 4:3. Is it worth using?

fuck nights and fuck liberal queers.

>still brings up off topic shit after getting btfo.
never change zoomers.

>>5741765
oh yeah, the game has some wild production value
apart from being short and having a bit of control clunkiness, it's a stellar game

at least i'm not a fucking faggot tranny cocksucker that believes nights is a good game.

just admit defeat zoomer.

eat shit boomer.

>>5741482
The game is literally unplayable without one so yes.

>>5740541
>on an unrelated note, NiGHTS and BR are absurdly pretty Saturn games... and they really make the Saturn look like something that could actually compete with the PS1 in visuals
I have a special place for Burning Rangers in my heart but it really is an unbelievable technical mess. If anything it makes the Saturn look far weaker than the PS1 seeing as how it ran like 10-20 fps lower than comparable PS1 games.

>>5741852
It actually does but since I only have a 4:3 CRT it doesn't work well because it makes everything narrow. Still tracking a 16:9 CRT. Works in emulation though.

>>5742081
how do you correct the aspect ratio in emulation? Should it fill a 16:9 screen?

>>5741729
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>>5742035

sure is /pol/ in here trying to fixate on a non-existent tranny agenda within a video game that is literally the most non-political and inoffensive game ever created

>>5742116
NiGHTS is literally gay though, and probably a pedophile too.

No wonder he's gotten so popular in the LGBBQTP community.

>>5742116
nights's gender was a hot topic of discussion back in the day and I remember feeling confused as a young child if I should be attracted to it or not.

>>5742125
he's called he all throughout the manual and the comics. NiGHTS is a boy.

>>5742137
well I only ever rented it

>>5741504
you're allowed to feel this way about a fictional character but Nights is basically just a fantastic jester/harlequin figure with human features who is all about entertainment and play and who is inviting you to join and explore his dream world. yes, things can be that simple and used to be that simple back then and there is no hidden agenda with that character. He has no species because he is a probably not even real but a fantasy in itself and a mystery although he looks human.

He's not Cicero from Skyrim or Kefka Palazzo from FF6 or the Jester from Darkest Dungeon either so there I don't think there is anything truly unsettling or dark about this figure.

>>5740178
I second this.

>>5740509
>Burning Rangers is ludicrously short.
I'll agree with you on that one, Burning Rangers was offensively short.

>>5742341
The stages randomize after being the game and saving everybody takes hours and hours of playing through what are new stages every time with new areas that open up and close off depending on which version of the stage you get. It's somewhat short to beat, maybe two or three hours (assuming you're playing for the first time and need to learn the stages / die a few times) - which isn't that short compared to most games, but there's a ton of gameplay even after beating it. I always felt the Burning Rangers is short complaint was unfair. The last stage alone takes a bit of time to beat.

>>5742363
Yeah I know but just randomly shuffling around the rooms in each level doesn't make for great replay value, I would have liked at least some extra modes or maps or something. Also in what world is 2 or 3 hours not short compared to most games?

>>5740005
Yes it is nigger.

>>5739958
filtered

>>5739907
I'm still amazed this didn't give me a seizure as a kid, I remember feeling very dizzy.
Loved the fact that you could turn into a kid and explore the world till the giant clock fucked you. thought shit this should be the game and turning into nights should be an extra

>>5741146
Controls are the enemy: The Game

>>5742085
Go to the options and select 16:9, retard.

>>5742886
>saturn had widescreen support
damn thats next gen as fuck

>>5742896
Panzer Dragoon Zwei also had the option. Think Burning Rangers did too.

>>5741852
On Saturn is does.
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>>5742896
>>5742903
It's not 16:9. It's just widescreen.

>>5742886
no shit. SSF doesn't handle aspect ratios correctly and mednafen has input lag out the ass.