/vr/ - Retro Games

>PS1 version
Slice your neck with the nearest available knife.

>>5728530
Just play them on PC as anon said above, you can set high resolution and play addons.
>Which is your favorite?
While I think that tr4 is the best, I had most fun with AoD, it would have been best if they had more time and experience with ps2 engine development.
>How did you get into the series?
That's funny, but in 2013 with all this hype around the reboot, there were debates about
how they ruined Lara and TR and I looked into it more closely.
I played legend demo on release, but for some reason didn't get excited, now I like it more.

>>5728530
I still like the PS ones, never played anything beyond AoD.

Playstation is the superior version of TR1, the PC version lacked misic and shiny reflective gold Lara and crystals.

>>5728558
>set high resolution and play addons
1 isn't worth playing beyond the content of the base game. The expansions and fan levels for the sequels are okay.

>>5728530
I kinda love CORE TR games. I even own the Angeline Jolie movies on DVD and bought the TR Archives comicbook collection. That's the kind of autism I have for this series.
As a teenager, I kinda loved them in this "guilty pleasure" kind of way. Now, I really grew to aprecciate the design behind this series - especially after new installments like LAU and 2013 came about. My very first one was TR3 - and I still have a very soft spot for it. I guess aside from TR5 - that can fuck off and die - there isn't an installment that I actively dislike. I even appreciate AoD. Of them all, I think I like TR2 the least, because it takes FOREVER to get to the point.
I guess TR1 is still superior in terms of level design and overall atmosphere, TR4 has the best story, hands down and TR3 is just a fun romp - it feels a bit like a TV series, with every new location (London, India, Nevada, Pacific, Antarctica) being a different story arc. It's probably the most pure "Tomb Raider" of them all.
So there is that - thanks for reading my blog.

>>5728561
You can mod music in.
Crystals are the definition of artificial difficulty.

>>5728608
>having black skin

>>5728628

>>5728530
Played the first game recently and really enjoyed it even though I never had particularly high hopes for it. If someone had told me it's basically 3D Prince of Persia I would have been interested sooner.

Ignore people bitching about which version you should play. I played the PC version (modded to look and sound as much like the PS1 version as possible...) and realizing later that the PS1 version has a limited save system, I wish I had played that one instead. Being able to save anywhere can trivialize platforming, limited saving is always better design.

>>5728649
I like the way the crystals were handled in 3 on the playstation. Really gives you an incentive to explore and look for secrets. The secrets in 2, 4 and 5 are pointless.

>>5728680
The secrets in 2 give you guns.

>>5728530
Tomb Raider 1 is still one of my favorite PS1 games, but I think the series takes a serious nose-dive with 2 focusing too much in action, not enough on puzzles and too many shitty non-tomb environments. Then 3 was a little better but still not as good and that was the last retro era one I played to completion.

Underworld is the only other game in the series I think is really good, bit it's short.

>be me
>playing TR2
>but no memory card
Got stuck on the opera house level

Bizarre thread, this is an extremely famous series that has had hundreds of threads talking about its most minor details. Asking"do you like it" is the equivalent of asking "do you guys like megaman / do you guys like castlevania." This is entry level shit. Not everybody here is going to like every game but the fame and popularity of the games peaks for itself, so you are aware that millions of people do like it so play it if you are curious.

This one of the weirdest newfag threads I've seen "do you guys like *insert popular game here that has had millions of threads*"

>>5728705
dilate

>>5728530
>Favorite?
The first one, even though I didn't play it on release. I like the secrets even the invisible platform and puzzles.
>How did you get in?
My dad was into computers and constantly bought/pirated games and one day he got TR2 with a magazine. I would spend hours on Lara's manor trying to do the track course and the maze, but I could never make it. I remember he played the shit out of 3, though.
>Do you rike them?
For me, it's hard to go through them after 4. I don't like remakes very much and the reboots shit the bed.

>>5728536
cry more

>>5728705
I think you must be new here because we get these threads all the time. Even for literally Mario and Zelda.

This time it's actually not bad at all. There are only 4-5 Tomb Raider /vr/ games. /vr/ people will be different to if you asked on another site. The only thing that seems odd is making it before you play the games.

>>5728530
>Which is your favorite?
TR1
>How did you get into the series?
Saturn TR1, terrible port or I think it was the original platform it was developed on, still best looking game on the Saturn, saving Chrystals make the game 10x harder. Since many of the segments are trial and error.
> Do you still like them today?
I finish TR1 maybe once a year, and some levels of TR2.
I dropped the franchise on TR3, after I spent a good three hours not being able to pass the first level.

>>5728649
>limited saving is always better design
kek, gotta love people that didn't grow up in the 90s

>>5729105
>still best looking game on the Saturn
Are you on crack?

>>5729116
Go zoom elsewhere

>>5729180
oh gawd not again this shit, go away lol

>>5729192
I love you zoomer.

>>5728530
It was cool when it was new, but I wouldn't touch that series with a ten foot poll now. BORING

I personally don't think the older Tomb Raiders play very well at all, they were annoying to control in the 90's and are even worse now.

>>5729425
pleb of plebs

>>5729426
>>5729425
>>5729370
>>5729337
>>5729192
>>5729180
>>5729116
>>5729105

gotta say though, the block based jumping design in the first TR is fucking great, don't you just love it?

>take two steps back
>run jump
>this should work
>oh shit Lara falls
reeeeeeeeeee

seethe harder.

The funny thing about the old TRs is that at the time I don't think anyone question just how artificial and contrived the level design was.

>Be an oilrig worker
>Want to go to the loo
>Have to push a block to reveal another one to pull, behind which is a lever that you have to activate to open a time-limited door that you access by jumping over a pit of death

>Work in the Nevada compound
>Hide your shotgun ammo in an air vent with rotating lasers protecting them

And so on and so forth, it was just completely absurd but at the time we thought nothing of it. Still fun to play.

>>5729762
Yep, TR3 is very surreal, even Kafkaesque I can say.

>>5729673
Lara won't fall if you make a jump that actually should work. Your issue is not understanding the controls.

>>5729835
Not him, but I don't really like to stop before any edge because running a dozen of meters is too unreliable for running jumps.

>>5729762
>Our heroine Lara Croft has to walk through pedestrian corridors and open spaces to get to her goal which is probably locked behind a simple door you could just shoot the lock out of.
Videogames shouldn't have to excuse themselves for being videogames.

>>5729835
I'm just pointing out something funny lol, relax haha. fucking Christ everything's taking everything so seriously about a game that came out 25 years ago

>>5728530
I can't be the only one who still thinks Lara's deathfall scream and the sound effect + ragdollish animation of her hitting the ground still feels real. Some frightening shit bros.

>>5729762
You think that's absurd, play some custom level editors. Some puzzles I constantly see involves either putting bread in a toaster or cake in an oven just to open some door elsewhere in the level, usually Lara's Mansion levels. Gives me the impression that everything someone wants to get into that specific room, then they gotta make toast instead of just walking up to the door and just opening it.

>>5729931
For me it was either the spike death or "killed mid-jump" death. Dunno why, those deaths always felt unsetling.

>>5728705
>>5729072
I made a thread on /v/ a few days ago, the context is despite the series being so famous, I've gotten the impression it's been more well regarded for the character of Lara than the games holding up because the people who experienced the games have very mixed opinions as to where the series started to falter or when they started to get good. Not to mention, for the longest time this series always looked bland and cookie cutter action adventure, but someone spoke to me about the first game and how exploration heavy it is with Prince of Persia gameplay design philosophies, but in 3D, which sounded interesting to me, as well as the level design since I always presumed the series to be more gunplay focused. I'm also always curious of peoples opinions on games before I play them, I have a tendency to do that a lot just to get larger amounts of feedback of what people took away from video games, might be weird for me to do, sorry I guess.

>>5728558
Attractiveness ranking from left to right:
7 > 4 > 8 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 6

>>5728693
Why did they have you collect Charmanders in TR2?

>>5728693
Oh wow, I obviously shouldn't have given up on collecting them.

>>5730923
You trade 3 charmanders for a gun at the end of the level.

>>5730630
Just play the damned thing. Lara was peculiarly popular with normies (I guess just because big tiddie girl), but the first game is a great platforming/exploration game in its own right with fantastic atmosphere and interesting puzzles. Prince of Persia is a good analogue, but there's quite literally another dimension to Tomb Raider. The weakest part of the game is the combat which is perfunctory but not too much of a drag. Later games make combat much more of a focus which is why myself and many others like them less, as there's little skill involved other than jumping about like an idiot while holding the fire button and the increase of bullet sponge human enemies both makes combat more tedious and damages the lonely atmosphere (the first game essentially only uses combat with humans as boss battles).

What do you think about Lara's characterization and her character development?

>>5731346
Playing through it and the exploration is satisfying, but god damn I can barely find more 1 secret in each level, The quietness of the game is pretty eerie followed by the faint ambiance popping up from time to time, not to mention audio cues during some combat sequences, I'll admit some of the enemies have made me jump a few times already because I don't see them coming. Combat is meh, but at the very least it isn't infuriating to engage in, but yeah jumping around like a dumbass and holding the action button doesn't take much skill.My only real issues right now is that I wish Lara was a tad bit faster on land. Swimming controls surprisingly well for the time, I'm quite shocked. Looking forward to playing more.
>>5731443
I'll be honest, I never found the early iterations of lara attractive until Crystal Dynamics came onto the scene, but those games aren't retro.

>>5731443
She's a shallow and never had very interesting character development but that's just fine for the series. I'm glad it doesn't get too bogged down with a lot of it.

>>5731683
What would be a good way to flesh her out?

>>5731691
Bigger boobs

>dude, just play the PC version
Could faggots stop recommending this option to new players? GoG version is broken as shit, and the version made by that polish company that everyone recommends requires a good deal of tweeking and modification to make it run the way it's supposed to on Win7 or Win10. Even then you'll still need to fuck around with config to make it not control like ass. And this may come as a shock and surprise to the cocksuckers who keep recommending the PC version, but most people don't want to spend 30-60 minutes just configuring and tweeking a game just to play.
>b-b-but 3dfx glide!
There's a term for those who value graphics above all else. They are called faggots.
>b-b-but the expansions
Doesn't mean a fucking thing to someone who will most likely get bored of fucking around with the program before they even get a chance to play the base game.

If you wanna play a TR game, play the PSX version. If you really want the best possible graphics after playing, then by all means go hunt down the PC version by Cengage or whatever their name is and take the time to get it playable. Recommending that shit to new players is just faggotry.

>>5731691
Doesn't need it, that's what I'm saying.

>>5732728
Don't you want to know more about Lara?

>>5733492
No, I already think too many games get bogged down with more story and character development than they need.
She works fine as just a simple sexy rich explorer lady that gives the player an excuse to go rooting around old tombs looking for treasure and solving puzzles, which is the point of the game in the first place.

Too much character bs is one of the reasons the reboot series has been such digshit. But there are more people like you than me out there so that's the state of gaming.

>>5733512
There's no need to antagonize me, I just want tomb raider to prosper while keeping it true to its roots.

just play the psx version with pgxp. 3dfx version looks like dog shit with n64 quality texture filtering

>>5733608
>while keeping it true to its roots.

That's what I want too. Keep it focused on gameplay, as opposed to what you're asking for which they already did and is awful. Games should be games first and foremost.

I’m convinced a fan could make a better Tomb Raider game than any of the big developers out here now. Minor things should be satisfying, every jump should feel like an event, progress should feel earned, realism and a sense of weight, tasteful ambience, deaths so horrifying that you don’t want to see Lara die, all things Anniversary is completely lacking in.

>>5733972
I love TR but the original is also missing a lot of that. Anniversary was a let down but Underworld is solid, it's just too short. Take that team but give them a lpt more time and send Lara off to raid treasure from Gobekli Tepe or something and I'd be down.

>>5733961
>Games should be games first and foremost.
Wrong

>>5734000
Ohh boy! A screenshot from some random guy! Sure there's nothing wrong with some story to give context to what's happening, but never so much that it distracts from or gets in the way of the game which is inevitable because gameplay and storytelling are intrinsically opposites.

>>5732673
You're going to waste a lot more than 30 minutes with the PSX version due to save crystals. You sound like a pretty big faggot.

>>5733984
I was literally describing TR1, you must be retarded.

>>5734114
Don’t be a pussy, I bet you use savestates when you play Resident Evil, too. Faggot.

>>5734138
Upload a video of you spending "30-60 minutes" setting up the PC version.

>>5734128
I disagree.

>>5728530
>decide to play this again
>get as far as the Colosseum
>game freezes at end of level every time

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK

>>5728530
hey guy can you send me picture of here boobs?

>>5734114
>>5734194
>implying most people will have no issue setting up the PC version when half the people here can't even into MAME
I'm just being realistic. If they want the superior experience after trying the game out, they can get it. Recommending console first means they will get to play the game without jumping through hoops. For a first time player, that makes sense. Even moreso given how many people here can't even follow simple instructions.

She will live on forever in our hearts.

>>5728530
You talk like an absolute faggot. Please prep your self to getting into getting the fuck out of here.

>>5735703
Were you legitimately abused as a child? The PC version is better, and doesn't involve "jumping through hoops" more than the PSX version. Hell, according to you everyone needs to go find Playstation, the controller/games/memory card, just to play at a shit resolution. Or, fuck around with emulators and play a glitchy version of the game.Playing the PC version is both easier and superior. Please kill yourself.

>>5733942
>psx version with pgxp
this, the beetle psx hw core on retroarch has this option and it's sick for ps1 games, eliminates all texture warping basically