/vr/ - Retro Games

the PocketGo has a 30hz screen, so it's basically worthless. I'm curious about this LDK thing you posted, but there are zero non-shill videos on youtube so it's hard to get a gauge.

I watch this asshole on YouTube who reviews shit like this constantly and they all seem pretty mediocre. The only one that seemed kind of neat is the one that you put a Pi into.

I use my original Nintendo DS, on occasion, for NES emulation. I run a NES emulator off of my DS's R4 flashcard called "nesDS" and it works great. I played through Megaman 1, 2, and 3 on my DS this way.

The 3DS is also good for native NES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, and GBA emulation if you mod it and get a hold of roms from the eshop or injected. NES and Gameboy roms on a 3DS are fantastic in particular because it has save state technology that will automatically resume where you left off when you power up your 3DS and start the game again. GBA emulation is so slow because you gotta wait for the game to load up from the title, it's a drag, but it works. Apparently New3DS has SNES emulation built in, exclusive to it.

I've heard good things about Vita emulation and while the PSP is said to be the grand daddy of old school emulation I never liked its mushy D-Pad very much. Though, the PSP has native PS1 emulation which is awesome as fuck.

OR EMULATE ON YOUR PHONE

>>5721093
3DS is using native hardware for running GBA games, that’s why it takes a bit to boot up. There’s no save states and some games need to anti-piracy or save patches, but it’s well worth it for 100% accuracy imo.

>>5721093
3DS is using native hardware for running GBA games, that’s why it takes a bit to boot up. There’s no save states and some games need anti-piracy or save patches, but it’s well worth it for 100% accuracy imo.

>>5721092
heard you were talkin shit

>>5721106
I hate this zoomer, I had to stop watching. He doesn't even play video games. I respect that he has the know-how to fix and mod gameboys. It's just a job for him, I don't see the passion.

>>5721114
>I respect that he has the know-how to fix and mod gameboys.
But he's even terrible at that.

>>5721076
>worth
Depends on yours

>>5721087
I ordered one, I'll let you know what I think in about 6 months

>>5721076
I own a LDK game.
It does almost everything 8-16 bit well, but the SNES emulation has some issues.
CPS2 emulation also doesn't seem to be full speed consistently from what I tried.
Everything else runs pretty well, but I'm still having a hard time justifying what I paid for, the money likely would have been better put to a Vita.

>>5721076
No. Just get a used PSP or Vita.

>>5721076
Don't get the bittboy. It might look tempting but it has issues
>not-quite-right aspect ratio for game boy, you can do 1x1 pixel mode but it's too small to enjoy
>not-quite-right clock speed
>can't save, save states only
>can't press certain combinations of buttons because those combinations are mapped to system menus
>microusb charging port broke off from the board and I had to solder is back on (fuck that!)
Too bad because this thing is really close to actually being great, keep an eye on this company in case they get their shit together

I'm using an RS-97 Plus, pretty much the same thing as the LDK.
With the original firmware it's shit.
With RetroFW it's fantastic. I bring it everywhere.
If I were to buy one right now, I'd get the LDK due to the screen protector, and the fact that is supported by the same 3rd party firmware.

>>5722669
Came here to say the RS-97 w/retrofw

>>5721106
The dude I was talking about has pixel in his name. I'm not even sure if the guy plays games or just collects and reviews

>>5721093
>Emulate on your phone
No, thank you, take your shitty touchscreens and crappy controllers away from me, I'll stick to my PSP

>>5721106
>>5721114
literally who?

>$50+ purchase
>shitty rotated 320x240 T9 overstock phone display and a CPU that can hardly run SNES games
>with an analog stick
>and sub-mcdonalds toy build quality
Fucking laughable

>>5721097
then why does wario land 4 run so fucking terribly

>>5723235
are you playing it on some emulator or via injected gba ambassador game? Because the latter runs perfectly on my 3ds

>>5721106
he looks like he's about to suck a cock

>>5723320
do you make the same face?

>>5723231
The only SNES game I've had issues with is StarFox, and I have no desire to play it anyway.
You can find them a whole lot cheaper than $50 if you can into internet searching.
I haven't held an LDK in meatspace yet, but the RS-97 feels fine. Not quite as nice as a GameBoy, but good enough. It's actually the first non-Nintendo handheld I have ever used with a D-pad that was worth a shit comparatively.

GPD XD+ master race here

>>5721076
I honestly don't get how non of these things is able to play gba games without lags and errors.
Youtubers always talk about how amazing those things are but the more in-depth they go, the worse it sounds.

I guess it`ll be at least another 5 years until we see a chink handheld that actually replaces the gameboy advance.

>>5723872
That's because the people reviewing these units are not using RetroFW, for reasons unknown to me. It seems like they did exactly zero research before purchasing. I have been enjoying Metroid Fusion for the last week.

I purchased an RG 300 and just got it in today. Its basically very similar to an LDK vertical, maybe performs a little worse and has a slightly worse screen, but the form factor I already find superb.
>Slightly larger than an LDK.
>Tempered glass cover
>Comes in a nice light grey instead of neon yellow
>Shoulder buttons are wider and on the back and use omron-style switches
>Nice D-Pad and buttons
>Larger battery than the LDK. Its like one of those big nokia-style batteries.
>Type C port for charging
>Easy to disassemble which is good because:
- MicroSD may fall into the case when you switch out the fake one for one with RetroFW you flashed yourself
-slight image retention (most noticeable in black scenes)
Its limited. Like about the same as a Pi Zero in performance but I can still see myself using it a lot. Can't grumble for 50 dollars. That costs less than a backlight mod for a GBC and way less than a Pi 3 Gameboy kit. Just don't expect it to run 3D games well. PlayStation chugs.

>>5724585
How does it handle SNES, NES, GBA, and Genesis? Can you install custom firmware?

>>5724591
Nevermind my last question. I'm fucking retarded and my brain didn't register you mentioned "RetroFW"
What do you mean by fake one?

>>5724601
Well you get a fake branded microSD in the unit running the stock firmware. Like the RS-97 and the RS-07 have. Mine says Toshiba 16gb but I sure as well know it's a fake. They are always fake, and they'll eventually fail on you.
Anyway it's only stuck in with a sticker but very easily accessible by removing the battery. (Open battery door, take out battery from the notch in the case) There's a rectangular cutout where the microSD sits. It sprung out when I removed it and flew into the case and I couldn't get it back out through that small square hole so I had to undo the screws, pry the casing open a little and try to tease it out.

>>5724745
My RS-97 came with a totally unbranded card. Interesting.

I bought a a320 over a decade ago and technology hasn't progressed beyond that in the chinkshit market. It's still the same ingenic soc's that have been on the market for nearly 15 years with a couple hundred mhz bonus that makes no difference.
10 years ago you had handheld chink emulators that pretty much redlined at doing ps1, gba, and snes emulation. With shitty dpads and shitty buttons.
Today what do we have? Shitty dpads, shitty buttons, and just enough compute power to just manage half decent ps1, gba, and snes emulation. Nothing's changed.
To me none of these handhelds that time forgot are worth a damn.

>>5724821
I am enjoying my RS-97 more than my GP2x. The D-Pad on the newest versions is actually pretty nice. There's also a version with an IPS screen.
I wish they'd offer one with an even larger battery and some sort of protection for the panel.
Still can't do much PSX emulation worth a shit, but I hear the onboard GPU isn't even being utilized yet.
Waiting on RetroFW updates.
For a fraction of what I shelled out for similar shit a decade and a half ago, I can't complain.

>>5724856
The market has been stealing hardware and software from everyone and their mothers for nearly 15 years. I don't see that changing any time soon and so I can't see these devices ever progressing.

>>5724862
They have, just not nearly as fast as they should be.

>>5724880
The trouble is that the ones that are new use android SOCs and have to rely on Mali GPUs which are very hit and miss on the low-end.
They usually cost double an Ingenic device too.
They often cut cost on the build quality too. Hence why the XD had the mushiest buttons. Sometimes even a famiclone has better buttons.

>>5723558
no, but your mom did

Why not just use your phone (or even an old phone) as a portable emulator. Most can run games up to N64 (newer ones can run Gamecube, Wii, and even PS2). You can get a cheap controller for like 20 bucks and you're set.

>>5727547
Lagdorid.

>>5723836
Same here. I want to rty an RG 300 but as for what I've played with, the GPD XD is a great emulator block. It's got 2 LR buttons and a nice screen size. the only issue I had with it is the fact that the stock launcher is ass and comes with a bit of chinese bloatware. If you're going for the big bucks, the GPD win is really nice too. You can do all your standard emu crap, and then emu some low-effort PC games. It's how I've been playing Cuphead, and I could probably play something like Momodora or Iconoclasts on it too. Solid hardware.

So I was thinking of one of these but kinda nervous to after the failure of my GCW. But these are alot cheaper in price than that was and it seems like these might just be better in general. Is the RS-97 still good? And isn't it the same thing as those K101?

>>5721076
LDK is okay. If you just want to do 8-bit and some 16-bit /vr/ it's going to be absolutely fine.
GCW Zero would be the goto MIPS handheld, which is basically the same family of devices LDK is in, together with Dingoo and others (running OpenDingux Linux). A modern clone of it (Zero) will be on the market in a year or so.
If you can afford it, the GPD XD Plus would probably be the best of the best non-hacked device for emulation, unless you also count the GPD Win 2, which is mostly overkill for /vr/.

PocketGo is trash because it's screen.

>>5721093
Nah, the appeal of the dedicated devices is not having to deal with CFW and paying less for a new device (with even warranty).

Emulation on phone is literally useless, since (no don't lie) carrying around a controller and wasting your phone battery also is the opposite of convenience, you'll get annoyed by it very quick.

Modded retail consoles are okay but as I said, price and having to deal with CFW, not being as straightforward and convenient for retro (instead of just pressing twice to get straight into a /vr/ game like with a OpenDingux device).

>>5721604
Not really devices in the same ballpark, size wise.
Plus the screen scaling and widescreen screens are a issue and waste.

Yes they are a option, but so is OPs device. There's no definitive answer, depends on your own needs and wants.

>>5723231
You get what you pay for, but in terms of usability they are more then fine, there's nothing laughable about them, they do what they are made to do (mostly GBA clones with extra emulators).

>>5724821
It has, the SoCs themselves are already newer than a A320 is.
A couple hundred MHz makes all the difference on these devices that don't even have a dedicated GPU. Please don't talk out of your ass if you're clueless about hardware and/or software.

>>5725641
This entirely depends, it's chink shit. There are several revisions of the XD for example, some with better, some with worse buttons, build quality, etc.

>>5727547
Convenience I'd say. It makes all the difference, but to each their own.

>>5728312
Not a issue on Android 7+ devices, only 4 (KitKat) devices had latency issues.

>>5730336
It makes no difference and the last new ingenic clockspeed bump was in 2011.
Feel free to show me the 1ghz soc shitting on the 360mhz one. You can't, because it doesn't, the opendingux emulators have the same problems they've had from the beginning.

>>5730370
Well it's obvious you have no idea, since that year would have been 2012 not 2011.
The SoCs used in things like LDK are newer than a A320 itself ever was.
I can tell you're not talking about personal experience, because the framerate between under and over clocking a LDK can have major different in emulation performance.
Going down to 500 from the default 600 MHz for example is easily noticeable when the emulator won't perform at a constant 100% anymore.
I'm used to people on /vr/ talking out of their ass when it comes to hardware and/or software, you kind of guys always want to seem smart about things you have no idea about.

Owning both a LDK and GCW Zero, the difference between 600 MHz and 1 GHz is just huge (other efficiency and speed patches also apply to the SoC model differences, not just clock speed), like PS1 and SNES being pretty much perfect as far as emulators go on one while hit and miss on the other.
OpenDingux emulators are nothing but ports of open source emulators, they are being worked on by thousands of people around the world, for PCs, consoles, OpenDingux handhelds, etc. They are being improved all the time and have come a long way since devices like A320 (which I also own since launch together with the LDK, Wiz and Zero, but also everything from a PSP and Vita to a New 3DS and Switch with CFW, I've been a contributing developer myself to several of the emulators that run on them also).

>>5730406
>since that year would have been 2012
Maybe put your big brain hat on and figure out why the jz4780 doesn't get counted with the others.

>>5728312
I feel bad for people too retarded to get rid of BT delay. Android emulation is better than anything that psp, vita, 3ds, Pi, etc are capable of. Really only beat by an actual x86-like platform.

>>5730346
>Not a issue on Android 7+ devices, only 4 (KitKat) devices had latency issues.
More accurately, not as big as a issue on ART as it was on Dalvik. Specially on 7+ thanks to other changes too.

I'm getting tired, time to hit the sack.
Leave questions if you want, I'll answer them after I'm back from work.

>>5730419
Not an argument now, is it? Since that's not what the statement was.
Upcoming projects will use the 4780.

>>5730406
So of those on the market, which could you recommend under $100?

>>5721076
Long thread considering the only legitimate answer is "No."

>>5721076
GB/GBA and Genesis work brilliantly
I was also shocked that SotN worked great

You don't want one of those low quality Chinese knockoffs.
What you want is the SouljaGame, SouljaBoy's greatest gift to humanity.
*rimshot*

>>5721076
Just get a psp.

>>5721076
no they are pretty bad, don’t buy.

>>5731348
This post reeks of summer and red dit. *rimshit*

I have a GPD Win, Odroid Go, GP2x Wiz, Caanoo, Dingoo(from back in the day). I just enjoy collecting these handhelds, and the tweaking aspect is fun.
Only other one I wish I had is the OpenPandora, even though it's been thoroughly outclassed by now.

>this thread, post for post, again
Mods.

>>5730320
No need for custom firmware. Just install RetroArch and connect one of the plethora of stock compatible gamepads. Battery isn't an issue if you carry a power bank. But only total weirdos play video games when not home. There's always something better to do when you're not.

>>5730513
Entirely depends what you want to do.
Used PSP/Vita, New 3DS / 2DS / non-New 3DS, new LDK (LDK, either oreientation over RS-97 and BittBoy and others, if would be nice if you could find a GCW Zero for cheap but you probably can't.), those are all options under 100 USD.
They mostly do the same shit, PSP has better PSX but worse SNES, while being bulkier too as is the Vita. Depends on what systems you want to do and your size / convenience factor.

>>5731832
I think you're confused, custom firmware is needed on things like 3DS or PSP to play emulators. I guess you're referring to smartphones though, I have a foldable clip and a XBO controller, managing two batteries, having to worry about the phone battery, I would usually just skip playing or taking them with me to not bother with the hazzle (plus shit like screen border since I don't have a OLED screen annoy me), while a modded console or a dedicated emulation device you carry around and is always ready to play, that's the beauty of it. At work I often have times I don't have to do anything but still get paid, I enjoy playing /vr/ games while having time, instead of watching trash on YouTube or browsing Facebook like a disgusting weirdo. But to each their own.

>>5731832
>But only total weirdos play video games when not home.
wut

>>5730370
Nigga what are you smoking? Clock rate makes all the difference when it comes to emulation, more than anything else
That's why even older higher clocked single core chips manage to get better emulation performance than more modern multi core

>>5722990
Crappy Chinese portable consoles aren't gonna be much better.

>>5733554
What makes you say that? Chink shit has come a long way in terms of quality and reliability. I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>5733554
Post pics of your chink handhelds with timestamp pls

Do ANY of these
>have a good d-pad
>have good ergonomics for actually using the d-pad
>emulate mame, saturn, and DC well

>>5733725
>emulate mame, saturn, and DC well
none

>>5733725
D-pad and buttons on LDK are better than on my DS lite. Can play for hours without getting tired or cramps or feeling uncomfortable, so I guess the d-pad ergonomics are good.
Mame is hit and miss, many games work perfectly, some don't. No Saturn or DC, if you want those you have to go GPD XD Plus and that's not really in the same ballpark as those cheap emulation handhelds. Basically what LDK is good for is their small size, cheap price, pretty much perfect GB/GBA, NES and Genesis emulation plus some more obscure stuff and being open source with a bunch of homebrew too.

>>5721093
>I use my original Nintendo DS, on occasion, for NES emulation
Enjoy your squished screen, dumbass.