/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 14th 23:00 GMT
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to help get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[7-8] New beta release for La Tailor Girl
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=390#p1110538

[7-4] Alien Bastards! a new Doomer Boards mapset inspired by Alien Carnage
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1541/dbp13-alien

[7-3] Quake Speedmapping Pack 198: 768 ^ 2
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61748

[7-1] Anon updates 'Demon CounterStrike' to fix Rocket Launcher spawns
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5701806/#5702668

[6-29] Anon map release: TESTINGGROUND.wad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

[6-28] Masters of Doom to get a dramatized TV adaptation
https://www.pcgamer.com/james-and-dave-franco-are-producing-a-television-show-based-on-masters-of-doom/

[6-27] 'Vanilla Doom Plus', a monster variant randomizer balanced closer to vanilla
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vanilla-doom-plusmonster-randomizer-updated-june-25th40-added-monsters/

[6-22] /vr/ is hosting it's own Quake mapping project! GET IN HERE FAGETS

[6-20] Copper for Quake released: a vanilla+ mod (includes optional map pack)
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>>5721337

I think I am too dumb to understand teleporting. I have a monster I want to teleport in. I covered the monster in a trigger_teleport brush. The brush is activated by a trigger_once. The brush's target is a info_teleportdestination.
When I activate the trigger I get a sound, I can it scream, but it just doesn't appear. Anybody knows what's going on?

Why do some people put so many monsters in their levels? Are they just hiding their lack of creativity?

any Dragon Quest WADS?
i like to run around in Not!America and Alefgard while shooting Kazap at some smug looking King Slimes

>>5721365
Is the teleport or the monster falling out of the level?

>>5721380
this, make sure the info_teleportdestination is floating a bit above the ground

fyi this is why all the mobs in the base game fall a little bit when spawning/teleporting in, their spawners/teleport targets are floating

>>5721380
>>5721386
No, I found it out.... I had the monsters already named the same as the destination. I am fucking retarded, holy shit.

But another thing: I have another trigger to turn on a light, but it doesn't seem to activate its style. Any solution for that.

Heard you like verticality

>>5721408
Looks kinda cool

To the guy looking for the Quake OST >>5721396
4chan won't let me post a link for some reason, but there is a Steam guide detailing how to download the soundtrack and where to put it. Google "Quake soundtrack solutions", it's one of the top links. Worked for me.

>>5721428
You guys do realize Quake 1 with its OST and expansions is ready to go on the second mega link of the OP, right

>>5721428
>>5721439
thanks!

>>5721389
bump for lighting isues

>>5721453
reminder to also ask on func

>>5721439
Mate, I never bother to read the OP, I'm here only for the shitposts and occasional WAD questions

What is the best sourceport for Quake 2?
Which supports high resolutions, soundtracks and stuff like Quakespasm.

>>5721345
God, fuck this part

>>5721462
>No he didn't you tool. Bobby Prince is also a lawyer and knew exactly how far he could push it before it would become a legal issue.

this is great because not only are you believing some random ass internet legend, but you are using your ignorance to argue against the actual person who did the thing and is telling you the actual truth about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-LAn6yK4XY at 19 minutes

>>5721428
>>5721439
>>5721396
Right here, bro: https://files.catbox.moe/oqdnqp.zip

The guy who made this pack originally also put together a recut version of NIN's Ghost Album (which is open source), to allow it to loop properly and what not. He lists it as for Scourge Of Armagon for some reason, even though that expansion has its own soundtrack and is pretty good.
Personally, I loaded it together with Dimensions Of The Past and found it very suitable there.

>>5721462
He literally says that's not true in the videos I link. His own words, from his own mouth.
Go contact him and argue with him about it.

>>5721489
internet: Bobby Prince was a lawyer and knew they wouldn't be sued for copyright infringement
bobby prince: I believed id Software was going to be sued for copyright infringement.
internet: gee, dunno who to believe here?

>>5721493
Yes, the MEGA includes the NIN Ghosts ost for DOPA (since it is the one without an OST of its own)

>>5721337
What if there were a version of Guncaster for Build Engine games Duke 3D, SW, Blood, and Witchraven 1 complete with the option to choose the sex of the character?

>>5721496
I thought I read some post that said it wasn't, but eh, can't un-upload it.

Shadow Warrior Classic Redux has several issues on my PC (extreme mouse lag + settings never saving) that render it completely unplayable on my PC. Are there any viable sourceports or should I just play the DOS version?

I can't believe that for 25 years gamers took id Software at their word when they said that the Doom soundtrack didn't violate any copyrights and they had a legal opinion to this effect. After all, why would they lie?!?

>>5721337
BTSX EP3 When?
Any info, lads?

>>5721510
Dosbox tends to work, though not necessarily the greatest.
If you're lucky, we might see Shadow Warrior support for BuildGDX, but that may take a while.

>>5721524
I don't think Id Software themselves actually ever made any official statements of that nature.

What are DEM files and how do I open them?

ight can anyone help me out, im a retard and cant figure out how to load deh files on chocolate doom

Quake map progress!

might expand the ribcage some more but this is how close i got to a human skull, these brushes are hard man.

>>5721649
huh? what is supposed to be what?
just pulling your leg man, still, what is what? keep going!

>>5721657
my first map was litterally doing a skeleton, just making the legs and arms and skull litterally parts of the background

>>5721661
spooky

Is this too cramped/cluttered? You come in the door the ogre is looking at and rush in to grab the grenade launcher before returning fire.

>>5721680
You're probably at the GL before the ogre even finishes his throw.

>>5721669
Well it sums up my quake mapping skills
Bare Bones

>>5721680
I like cramped levels in Quake and that isn't even that tight. Looks good.

just under a week left for HUH
should I even bother starting?
how many maps are already in?

>>5721694
Its never too late we got a rookie going from zero knowledge to finished map in two days

Moron here. What wad file should I use if I just want all the stock quake textures?

>>5721720
It's called Q.wad I believe, at least that's what mine was called when I found it.

It's getting there, and it's getting heavier to render

Is there a way to make triggers be able being activated by shooting? Basically I want to set up a trap where you're not supposed to shoot something, but when you do something happens.

>>5721749
You can just make a whole wall or series of walls a switch and then give it a health value. If the player nails the wall, it'll send a signal.

It's really crazy to me how adding some REALLY minor details gives a hallway less of a barren look. Those little pillars I added at the back really tie the place together.

Is there a mod for Chex Quest that simply changes the enemy behavior? I know of The Ultimate Chex Quest and Chex Pack, which make the basic flemoids shoot projectiles. However, the former is really buggy due to the map and item edits and the latter is Zandronum exclusive.

What is func_detail even for?

>>5721773
Removes the brush from vis compiling. Can save lots of time, depending on what kind of stuff you have in your level. Like railings, cages and such.

>>5721751
Can you explain? I made a func_button, gave it 1 health, but nothing seems to happen.

>>5721524
Romero said that Bobby Prince knew alot about sampling. Sampling had a bad rep around that time but legally Doom kinda gets away with it by being midi i guess

>MetaDoom: The Survey
>Thank you, but submissions are closed.

ok...

>>5721720
https://youtu.be/sg0iKjYsoBg

Check the description for link. Fucking mobile won't let me copy and paste

>>5721741
I sure hope there's a part where you trigger a door to open in the chest and a giant red heart comes out you have to shoot

>>5721785
Func-button, give it health
What's it targeting? It's real easy to screw up target and targetname

>>5721832
Thanks, I figured it out. I wanted to make it invisible, but that doesn't seem to work, so I copied the brush it was supposed to cover and make it simply vanish. Kinda hacky, but hey, I am a fucking noob.

>>5721825
Once i learn how to there might be the possibility
, for now i will try and make an actual level

[alt-255] [alt-255] [alt-30] [enter] [alt 30] [alt 255] [alt 30]

haha dumb idiot fuck you zombie

>>5721876
Cool I forgot the picture.

someone stream trenchbroom map making on twitch, It will be good fun

>>5721882
>tosses dick flech at you

ATTENTION+++ATTENTION+++ATTENTION

THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

I hope I got some of your attention now.
Here's my first release version of my map:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eazle5weub9bnf0/q1_technotomb.zip?dl=0

Feedback is highly appreciated.

>Is it too dark/bright?
>Encounters too easy/hard?
>Item placement good/bad?
>Secrets secretive/obvious?
>General layout etc.
>Sequence breaks?
>Anything you liked/disliked in particular?

Note that I didn't have a certain difficulty in mind and probably won't adjust for easy/hard anyways. And the complete lack of military enemies is intentional.

>>5721927
What if your post was the thing that was on the Hawaii false alarm last year

BTW, who's making the hub for HUH?

>>5721927
This hallway is eye rape. I would suggest making the ceiling a normal texture and adding lights every 32 units, or perhaps making a central strip of lights. Just so it isn't monotextured and fullbright.
There needs to be a double-barrel shotgun. The shotgun is Quake's pistol equivalent, so not including a double-barrel is equivalent to not including the single-barrel in Doom.
There needs to be more ammo in general. I skipped killing many enemies and still had to resort to using rockets on the final Shamblers.

ALRIGHT BITCH NIGGAS

Here I have dumped all useful textures from the TENCHU 2 game.

>All textures at least 64x64 unless it's a detail
>Full quality rip
>3100 textures
>woah

With this I hope to see more Japan-themed mods and whatever.

Rejoice!

https://www.mediafire.com/file/3e85zeuhmj8x06m/TENCHU2.rar

>>5721927
>>5721994
This texture has fullbright pixels. The last 8 (IIRC) colors in Quake's palette are always lit at full brightness, used for things like light textures. I would suggest using a texture editor like Wally and replacing the pixels with a non-fullbright color.
Also the walls in this room are scaled too much, the pixel density is noticably different from the other textures.

>>5721927
>>5721994
>>5722001
Overall pretty decent map, although I'd say theres a bit too many keys. There could be more varied ways to unlock progression. The theming is a bit odd, with medieval elements like torches and thrones thrown in a techbase.

>>5721994
Heh, that hallway was supposed to be some kind of "research facility" hallway, guess that intention got lost in translation.

But as a matter of fact, all Quake weapons can be found in this level, the double barrel can be acquired before the GL.

>>5722001
Noted, will see what I can change.

>>5722013
Thanks. This map is actually some kinda 3D remake of a Doom map I made some years ago. Had to change stuff up in the first place because Quake keys are single use only. Btw, there is one sequence break that lets you skip one key.

is there any way to beat D4D on ultra violence? I've beat ultimate doom on this setting, but as far as I understand, this difficulty is pretty much only designed for original games and is not appropriate when playing custom wads, since they usually ramp up the difficulty to the extreme, like with The Way ID Did.

How the huuh do I mass import textures to a wad file?

PLEASE HELP!

Trying to play D4D on GZDoom get this error
> execution could not continue
> 1 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts

>>5722089
You sure you're using the latest stable release of GZDoom?

If you are, go tell D4D devs to stop basing their mods on latest git builds.

>>5721994
I changed the ceiling and added lights, but I am not sure about the right ceiling texture.

>>5722001
I remembered that I didn't really want to use metal4_8, but I then it sneaked it one day and I never changed it. But I also have no idea what to replace it with, because everything else looks like shit.
It's a techno tomb, not a tech base, so I would like to have more stone or "ancient" technology stuff.

Would Doom Guy show mercy on a demon if she was a cute loli who has never hurt anyone and has no interest in hurting anyone?

>>5721546
OK, I fixed, it
I'm working with PS, I was just picking the color from the Quake palette .png from here:
https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Quake_palette
and applying the Paint Bucket over the texture, all of this on RGB Color mode
It didn't work for some reason
I took the texture and on Indexed Color mode, applied the .act palette
Then changed it to RGB Color mode again and exported

All right, here's the first release of my noob HUH map, it's short, dark, and action-packed. Enjoy. And, of course, feedback is very much appreciated.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U0AdgORPWZtaRnRd1tP6HgVXGp642SBn/view

>>5722128
fuck off faggot

So I've started making a map for HUH today, I'm not sure whether I can dream to meet the deadline,
Anyway, is there some sort of radius at which the enemies can hear you or will they all hear the player at once if I don't break the map up with a door?

>>5722176
remember, keep the scope for your level small and manageable

>>5722128

SHAMBLER'S LIST; SHAMBLER IS PISSED.

kind of a weird question but are there any good wads where you play as a robot/cyborg?

>>5722198
Demonsteele's Shihong is a cyborg gal

>>5722167
You know, I really enjoyed this map.
You should watch out for alingment, scale and see how textures tile. Look at the ceiling of the starting room or the bolts on the top of the platform.

>>5722198
the next GMOTA update will be adding a warforged, does that count?

>>5722198
Zero Tolerance, it's one of the classic ZDoom gameplay mods.

>>5722103
Found an answer online. You DO have to be using the latest git build, otherwise it doesn't work.

Got this wad I've been working on for a while now. I still have a lot of work to do on it.
In terms of gameplay what do you think so far?
https://gofile.io/?c=bWAgXF
Still need to tweak it for PrBoom so test it in Zdoom and make sure you use both the CCTex and wad in the zip.

>>5722215
What is it about. I never heard it baka

>>5721927
>>5722167
remember to send your levels to the project gmail as well, just in case

>>5722215
It's old as fuck, has some really odd weapon and enemy quirks to it, along with a custom playlist of music.
There's an updated version of it to play nicer with newer versions of GZDoom and a few extra optional features.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51000

>>5722217
go tell them they're a bunch of faggots

fuck it, I'm not rebuilding GZDoom after every new commit to the repo just to play a mod, fuck that gay shit

>>5722109
>>5721927
Ok, so I made some changes. Noticed some things with triggers that didn't work as planned, changed textures at some places and put some more ammo and health. Link stays the same

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eazle5weub9bnf0/q1_technotomb.zip?dl=0

>>5722220
New weapons, some new enemies, some of that classic nashgore.
I oddly can't find much good video on it.

>>5722167
I played your map a second time. The dog ran back to the grenade door and opened it and the fatties started lugging their shit at me already.
And in the starting room, I don't know if that is intended, but you can choose the angle of buttons. It moving sideways feels a bit weird imo.
And the platform you start at, consider putting some clip brushes there or lowering it because it's a pretty large step.

>>5722271
Oh and I forgot to add: I played it a second time because I liked it, not to criticize more.

Okay, so if ZeniMax media has an issue with the vasyan ruskie shit because it uses a "third party engine," what happens with all the rest of the Doom mods that use GZDoom or Zandronum?

Aren't they "guilty," in the same way? Are source ports considered third party engines?

>>5722283
Zenimax can't do shit if the engine adheres to the GPL

>>5722283
my sources inside zenimax told me that you are a gay

>>5722283
Fuck off and actually fucking kill yourself, you fucking slavshit troll. You're not fooling anyone.

>>5722283
No. It's a hoax and you're not helping.

>>5722283
I hope your mom dies.

>>5722283
Holy shit why do these people keep bringing this up. Go to /v/ where someone might care

>>5722290
>>5722292
>>5722294
>>5722301
>>5722303
So, I'm an asshole, and nothing really will happen unless something doesn't adhere to the GPL?

Thanks.

>>5722198
Lithium.

>>5721345
>that resolution
>that video grain

Since someone last thread brought up the idea of a Doom Eternal mod, i feel like suggesting mods to try out before the game is out.
>GMOTA: Night Sentinel Doomslayer with sword included, Sir Blaz's chain that pulls enemies close to him, maybe the dragon enemy
>Demonsteele: Sword, dashing, skull tank boss
>TrailBlazer: One of the upgrades is a sniper rifle alt fire for your machinegun
>Literally most Doom 2016 focused mods: D4D, D4T/Crucible/Slayer Edition, Zion, Argent etc: Some of them even have the Prowler as an enemy and D4D is putting in Eternal stuff for some dumb reasons but that mod kinda got shittier for a while
>MetaDoom: Can use secondary items while still shooting (Like the shoulder thing now), the overall mix of different Doom iterations, a teleporting Imp, Arachnotron that charges powerfull plasma balls
>Doom Eternal XP: Has some Eternal stuff but the direction still makes it its own thing
>Guncaster lets you breathe fire on enemies like the shoulder flamethrower
>Any mod that has many enemy types just because of the "twice as many demons" marketing and the Fire Baron looking like that one Realm667 monster (Project Brutality, Colorfull Hell, Complex Doom etc (Quality may vary)
>Eviternity, mostly because of heaven but it's not the only WAD that has it
>Eternal Doom even if just because of the name but i think there was a shield HK enemy, predicting a confirmed character in the alternate cover (In like ED4?)
>Dakka: Life system that resets your health, i think you can have a sticky grenade for your shotgun
>HontE or whatever that one Hell on Earth remake is called or anything that has Hell on Earth levels that look more "advanced"

>>5721345
You're playing the screenshots, anon. I love it.

>>5721389
>>5721453
Lights with an animated style can't be toggled on/off in vanilla progs.

>>5721842
>I wanted to make it invisible, but that doesn't seem to work
Did you try just giving your trigger_once brush a health field?

Doom Eternal will be the best game in the series and there is nothing you can do about it

>>5722442
I feel like any post 90's Doom game will mostly just have some ideas that people will like but still won't replace the classics.
Like, the kind of stuff that just generally increases crossover potential but you'd still see the originals as the "definitive" Doom.

>>5722442
It will be a good game probably but do shut up. False flagging like this causes infighting, lets not turn this place into /v/

>>5722447
>>5722451
just report

>>5721337
Still think that it would be pretty cool if the demons are revealed in D:E to be inhabitants of a pocket dimension in the universe known as otherspace, and the technoangels are an advanced species from the other side the galaxy that are currently at war with the otherspace demons.

>>5722458
can you stop posting your fantasies in every thread

Hey is there any way to beat D4D on ultra violence?

I've beaten ultimate doom on this setting, but as far as I understand, this difficulty is pretty much only designed for original games and is not appropriate when playing custom wads, since they usually ramp up the difficulty to the extreme, like with The Way ID Did.

>>5722474
>D4D
are you talking about a certain mapset or D4D the Doom 2016 gameplay mod?

>>5722474
Right so I forgot to specify - I'm talking just about D4D on Ultimate Doom and Doom 2. Like it's unbelievably hard, completely unnecessarily too.

>>5722480
But why?
Like, is it about a specific enemy?

>>5722484
Well everything is different now and that makes it harder. But as if that wasn't enough enemies are super fast and kill you quick while you need to somehow master the weapons that require incredible reflexes and speed of orientation in space.

>>5722442
I'm hoping it will be good, and based on Doom 4 and what I've seen so far of Doom 5, it's looking like it might just be even better, but I think that "best of the series" will be a very, VERY tall order.

One of the core reason classic Doom endures is modding support, and though they've talked about wanting to add it at some point, it's clear that Doom 5 will not have it at launch. Even if Doom 5 has an amazing campaign with great gameplay, the fact that it still doesn't have mod support will still be a mark against it as compared to the rest of the series, in spite of perhaps being an objectively very good game.

It's hard to rival the sheer amount of content for the original game, let alone just the potential for content, that it's simply just possible for anyone to go and make a level and others can play it, they would have to release a tool for making levels proper, something beyond Snapmap.
Can you imagine Doom 5 actually getting that support though? Can you imagine a bunch of guys getting together and making a new generation's Memento Mori, Alien Vendetta, or Plutonia? That would be absolutely wild, and I really hope that we'll see that one of these days.

>>5722489
I remember one time being in a specific spot of JPCP's map 22 (I think) and kept throwing syphon/frag grenades to see if it hit them.
Maybe use whatever infinite resource you have if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S353gg0XwA

>>5722491
Something that worries me about the game is the amount of promises it has.
Like "many many places" which i don't care that much but i hope the enemy variety has a lot to offer and the cyber possessed and maybe gargoygles are like the very few occasional enemies that feel like just basic/stat change sort of deals.
Another reason why Eternal can't beat 1/2 us that those are the kind of important video games that feel "eternal" and legendary you have people discover expoilts or port it into weird devises.
There's also just the overall direction of the games and what you think Doom is all about.
Even the liquify transition effect is associated with Doom.
Like i said >>5722447 some people will like some of the ideas it can introduce to the series but still not agree with everything.

>>5722502
do qcde maps work with any other mods?
also, is it me or is the quakewiki not as updated as the doomwiki?

>>5722458
How is it being some random parallel dimension more interesting than it being LITERALLY FUCKING HELL?

>>5722509
That's true, a lot of the fun of classic Doom is finding out various things the devs did not expect, from monster usage to mapping tricks.

>>5722521
Same with every other game, m'dude

>>5722520
i think anyone would be fine if doom eternal retcons the lore from the previous game that almost makes the demons "alien like"
hell, maybe make the cybernetic ones actually hell made instead of uac or even heaven
i also hope heaven actually has a bit of parallel to og hell in the sense that it's a mix of traditional and original portrayal
or that they have their own equivalent of fireblu and hell's weird flesh and metal combos

Eviternity is literally megawad kino

>>5722167
This map was comfy. I like blue quake maps. Do you think you'll make more or is it a one time thing for the fun?

>>5721927
This map is utter fucking kino. You made plenty of quake maps before? The detail was real fucking nice. Did you make custom textures and shit for the waterfalls? I liked all the broken lights and monitors and railings and tipped over servers and shit.

The window part that spawned the vores genuinely spooked me. How did you do a transparent window in Quake 1? That was rad. Reminds me of Resident Evil licker moment. Also the lighting and atmosphere was genuinely unsettling at times. Really fucking nice job.

I'd say I would need more ammo sprinkled around. But you've already done that it seems. I had only rockets for a good half the map. Also, in the big vertical cage area are you supposed to be able to jump/rocket jump off the blue cages? I couldn't manage it, there was no collision for me with them but I see shit floating around up there. Some areas were very dark and I struggled to see but the lighting overall was great.

Also for the big final battle maybe trigger to lower a wall behind the player once they make their way out of that ammo room so they can't stay in their to cheese the battle.

Kino/10

>>5722576
Damn the SSG is huge

So I've played
>Doom 1+2 plus expansions
>Blood
>Duke
>Shadow Warrior
>Quake
>Unreal
>Half Life
What are the other essentials?

>>5722138
the chain fence looks to high detail for the rest of the level. otherwise it looks good

STRAFE JUMPING IS SO FUCKING HARD I CAN'T EVEN BEAT THE TUTORIAL REEEEEEE

>>5722625
marathon
dark forces
powerslave
fanmade/unofficial expansions of the games you've aldready played

>>5721337
Nice numbers.

>>5722625
Heretic/Hexen and did you do Doom 64?

>>5722625
>Blood expansions
>Duke expansions (yes even Nuclear Winter)
>Shadow Warrior expansions
>Quake expansions
>Strife
>Heretic
>Hexen
>Soldier of Fortune
>Kingpin of Crime
>SiN

Is Shadow Warrior Redux the best way to play SW?

>>5722637
>SoF
Mostly just a gore game which was nice for the time but today I wouldn't call it something you need to play.

>>5722683
sadly yes

>>5722686
What don't you like about it?

>>5722689
the renderer leaves a lot to be desired. especially since you cant see land mines in it, you have to go completely by ear. the mouse also sucks it just feels so bad compared to even other build engine game ports. I have also had crashes when playing user maps.

>>5722692
How about this thing? https://github.com/jonof/jfsw

Revilution MAP12 had some problems but it tugged at my nostalgia strings.
Good times.

Can someone more legally savvy than me explain how delta/quad touch are paid apps when other than the phone interface they're just a compilation of other peoples' free source ports? It just seems scummy and I don't get why people are ok with it.

>>5722805
The GPL allows you to sell software, but you have to provide the source code.

I dunno why but I find it odd how it took significantly longer for there to be source ports of Build games where you can modify the FOV than source ports for id Tech games (especially considering the ones you don't need a source port to play).

>>5722848
Field of view is a default cvar in id Tech 2 onwards.

>>5722854
Yeah I figured that. I think a more accurate way of putting it would be how Doom got a source port with proper FOV commands and such years before any Build game. AFAIK trying to change your FOV in eduke was a needlessly herculean effort (needless in the context of changing FOV to begin with, which should obviously be one of the easiest things to do in a game)

>>5722816
Do you also have to provide compilation info and support? Or is anything lost from compiling it on your own for free, aside from the time it took to compile

the pol.wad link is not working.

Why does no-one here ever talk about Turok? Are those games actually good? Was thinking about getting the collection before the Steam sale ended.

>>5722882
This post intrigues me.

Are you just making the statement? Are you reporting it with the intent of it being fixed? Are you celebrating its malfunction? Are you requesting someone provide a working link to it for you?

>>5722917

I'm hoping someone has alternative links. Also other wads didn't work. Not sure if mediafire is having problems or it's just me.

>>5722917
Autism.

>>5722920
I see
>>5722928
I was merely curious, since they did not explicitly say anything aside from the original statement that 'X is borked'

>>5722885
pls respond

>>5722938
You run, jump and shoot dinosaurs. What more is there to say?

>>5722920
This is the one I have: https://mega.nz/#!bEFl3KpJ!FjCBxm0ef-NUw9mweV8bsagAbOIE1vBCLzThQIfOVxc

>>5722947
Alright you convinced me. Are both 1 and 2 good?

>>5722958
See for yourself. Not my cup of tea.

A /vr/ shooter review, by Anonymous

>>5722947
>Wolf3D: You run (but not jump) and shoot nazis.
>Doom: You run (but not jump) and shoot demons.
>Quake: You run, jump, and shoot eldritch beings.
>Duke3D: You run, jump, and shoot aliens.
>Shadow Warrior: You run, jump, and shoot ninjas.
>Blood: You run, jump, and shoot cultists.
>Turok: You run, jump, and shoot dinosaurs.

What more is there to say?

Make sure you check out their other reviews for /vr/ games, such as
>Super Mario Bros: You run and jump.

half life is simply the greatest game ever made

>>5722970
>please respond
>vague response
>OK YOU CONVINCED ME
Now he has something to play. Good for him. Too bad he needed someone else to validate his interest.

To Anon: >>5722958
cc: >>5722978

I henceforth grant you my blessing, permission, and validation to pursue any /vr/ games you have any interest in, however small it may be. You need not seek this rare gift any longer. Play to your hearts content.

Sincerely,
Anonymous

>>5722951
Saved. Just in case this goes down.
It was a cool level, besides the schizo content.

Shadow Warrior > Blood > Duke

>>5722985
That'll work, yeah.

goddamn i cannot fucking wait for ion maiden boys

>>5723036
excuse me what did you just call it?

>>5723036
>>5723059
[Blocks your path]

How do you guys make your textures? I've been wanting to make Duke3d-like city textures but all my attempts look very amateurish. I also want to know how to make good looking skies too.

>>5723101
MS Paint.

>>5723101
practice
practice

>>5722582
Ooohhh anon-sama, I am blushing... But thanks m8.
Frankly, this is my first Quake map, but as mentioned earlier it's based on an older Doom map of mine. I mixed things up for the third dimension and just went wild.
The waterfalls are just the regular waterfall texture, I wish there was a 'slime' version.
Transparent windows are done with making a wall and setting an 'alpha' key.
Yeah, cages for RJ. I tried to put clip textures, but they don't seem to block gunfire, if somebody has a good solution for that I am all ears. Right now you have to hit the bars.
Well fuck, I totally forgot doing that, thanks for reminding me.

I need your best comfy wads, what are you best reccomendations?

>>5723149
>comfy
Golden Souls my dude

>>5723149
Adventures of Square

>>5722582
I'm definitely going to try to make more Doom and Quake maps. I know what I like seeing and I know how to implement them, all I need is the time and drive.

>>5723149
Pirate Doom, hands fucking down.
Or Mr. Friendly, unless you've played it before.

>>5721808
Can we have the coolgun's Reload function be a swift kick instead of that puny pew-pew? Or better yet, add a dedicated "Mighty Boot/Stiletto Shoe Thrust"?

>>5722951
thanks

>>5723182
> discolored icicles compared to rest of frozen sprite

>>5723182

>>5723221
nice anatomy

>>5723237
Yep. nice Imp anatomy indeed.

>>5722128
get out of here with this shit

saying it was a pain in the ass is to underestimate the situation

>5722458
thats just as shitty as the Doom novels.

>>5721532
Hasn't been any updates since the February doomworld thread, unfortunately.

>>5722442
only if it has modding capabilities of GZDoom, and is just as easy to mod.
which it wouldn't be
So no.

>>5722767
ancient and dead

>>5723309
They’re working on making the code more flexible, but there’s no guarantee on mods.

Why is it legal to discuss new Doom in this tread, on a retro games board?

>>5723321
Why do you care?

>>5723324
Because it's a game that came out well after 2000 while threads about gen 6 games are being shot on sight
There's no logic to it and my autistic brain is in pain because of it

>>5723321
The moderator will probably double down on deleting Doom Eternal posts when it comes out. Happened with Doom 2016.

>>5723327
Stop being an autist and just ignore it.

>>5723292
You absolute madman

>>5722683
Until BuildGDX supports it, yeah.

>>5723292
Can you climb the brush ladder?

>>5723292
Dam(n)

>>5723148
>THAT was your first quake map
And into the trash my map goes.

>>5723292
This is hilarious. I hope you also include that island with the turret way out in the distance that you can't get to that they kept in the final game.

>>5723382
Well, my first *actual* map, I didn't mention the "handful single room try shit out but have no idea what to actually do" stuff. And since it was based on a map I made for Doom - which was not my first - I had a pretty solid base to work from, I'd say. Also, >>5722167 made a really nice, fun map with literally only a handful of rooms, so you do you. We won't come close to the dam guy, anyways.

>>5723292
Hmm. We're gonna need an industrial mix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkBs-2Yv1Es

>>5723292
Very impressive.

>>5722625
Rise Of The Triad
Also the expansions to these games. Uh, but not ROTT's expansion, you don't have to play that one.

>>5721369
Avoid wads that are advertised as slaughter

>>5722801
I think TNTR as a whole did little to capture Evilution's atmosphere, but it's still a really kickass megawad with some good atmosphere and gameplay on its own merits.

>>5723149
Seconding Pirate Doom, but I think it didn't quite work properly in the latest versions of GzDoom.

>>5723308
I kinda like the novels.

>>5723437
What about Return of the Triad?

>>5722458
I liked the novels, but I never really liked this part.
The notion on its own is interesting "What if hell was actually just aliens bioengineered to be terrifying for humans and to make them think they're demons from hell?", but I think it's out of place for Doom, as Doom is meant to be more straightforward, and it actually being hell is much cooler for what Doom does.

>>5723467
Haven't played it.

>>5723415
Are we supposed provide music for HUH maps? I guess I'm going to need some drone or something

>>5723447
>Avoid things that I don't like

>>5723475
Read the post he replied to, numbnuts.

>>5722970
>SMB
>you technically shoot with the fire flower

>>5721369
The AI in Doom in so basic that only by adding a shitload of monster can a map become challenging for people that have been playing the game for 20+ years, i.e. most of the active mappers.

>>5723472
Nah. Just thinking out loud.
Suppose it could be done tho.

>>5723327
what are you a cop? you get off on snitching to teacher? freak.

>>5723524
You haven't played anything with smart monster placement in that case.

>>5723292
Now angle the guns so they look like they're coming out from under Quakeguy's armpit

>>5723560
What the fuck is it with you, offset weapons, and armpits

>>5723565
https://youtu.be/ktwVEYqnpcc

Look at that AK/any weapon that's not a pistol and tell me he's not holding it from his armpit

>>5723570
He's not holding it from his armpit

Eviternity's just hit final release, yo.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/eviternity

>>5723565
What if I like Quake and armpits, but not offset weapons?

>>5721337
>There is Chocolate Duke but no Chocolate Blood or Chocolate SW

>>5723636
Crispy Boom when

>>5723636
BTW, is it possible to build any of the Chocolate ports for DOS?

>>5723639
What?

>>5723642
>when vanilla IS chocolate

>>5723642
Wouldn't that be redundant?

>>5723674
>>5723685
Hackable programs with all the little fixes like built-in patching for TCs etc.

>>5722576
Will those be in the limited artbook?

Where is a good place to grab unreal for the singleplayer? It looks like it didnt really go on sale on steam. And there are so many other versions i just want the real thing not some shitty later version like half life source

>>5723696
It was free on Steam about a year ago.

>>5722520
>How is it being some random parallel dimension more interesting than it being LITERALLY FUCKING HELL?
The universe is vast and immense, among other things. Plus,D:E=/=OG Doom series

>>5723642
https://github.com/nukeykt/PCDoom-v2

>>5723639
Chocolate Boom
Haha poo

>>5723642
>>5723716
I was wondering about the same thing for a bit.

>>5723696
Not in the OP. No sir. You can't find anything at all there.

>>5723718
Noice

>Latest commit a772ed7 on 18 Mar 2018
;_;

>>5723721
How is that something to cry about?

>>5723717
That's a tasteful sector toilet. Absolutely exquisite

>>5723717
you have heard of the sector toilet
but have you considered
the possibilities of a brush toilet?

>>5723149
Deathless.

>>5722520
There are multiple Hells throughout the multiverse, but there’s only one Doom Hell, and it can invade and assimilate any world it wants.

>>5723736
>multiverse
>only one Doom Hell
That's not... no. More like infinite Doom Hells.

>>5723730
Would take a true artist.

>>5723706
I don't want to kill aliens in DOOM

>>5723730
Yes.

>>5723752
gimme that webm of someone lobbing a grenade into a bathroom stall in quake

>>5723739
What I mean is that the Hell that invades in Ultimate Doom, Final Doom, and Doom 64, the Hell that invades Doom 3, and the Hell that invades in Doom 4 and Doom Eternal are all the exact same Hell, but they’re just invading different universes. The classic Doom game are in the id universe with classic BJ Blazkowitz and Commander Keen, Doom 3 takes place in an alternate universe, and the new Doom games take place in the same universe as the Machinegames Wolfenstein reboot.

>>5723767
>UAC is using super space-Jew-Nazi tech

really gets the noggin joggin

>>5723767
>TNO universe leading to NuDoom

That actually makes sense seeing how part of TNO's plot involved the nazis stealing and utilizing super uber secret tech that could've eventually led to the UAC's discovering Argent Energy and making Hell tech.

>>5723764
I had to search two different external drives to find this.

>>5723780
it was worth it
fuckin love this webm

>>5723524
These are the words of a man with no talent and creativity.

>>5723791
thanks

>>5723793
Nah, the words of a man with no talent and creativity usually sound something like this:
>Holy fuck, I have no talent and creativity. Why did I try making a fucking map?

>>5723795
>tfw absolute god at Quake multiplayer
>the only scene left "alive" is Quake Champions and it's on life support

Rapha didn't deserve this fate

>>5723767
Hell being a different dimension I'd be fine with. Still the same universe. Start saying that hell invades other universes and you open up a can with an infinite amount of worms (and wormholes/p(l)otholes) in it. Doom 3 being a separate universe, that's fine too. That gets it's own hell dimension. But when you pop open the multiverse can, like 2016 apparently did with its mishmash of designs then just... eugh.
The designs weren't finalized. That's what I'm sticking with. Multiverse portals ruin things in the grand scale. Infinite variations on everything and anything. Death and destruction means nothing. There's always another you ready to pop out of a portal. Same with enemies. Same with planets. Whole universes. Multiverses. Nothing matters.
Then again, multiverse theory has been a thing all along if you think in terms of saves and restarts. You die, DEAD. BAD END. Off to another universe the player goes, good as new.

>>5723807
>only played quake like once a year before going ham at tourneys
>"practiced" by watching billions of demos and playing out matches in his head
If his brain was any bigger it'd squish out his ears, I swear.

>>5723810
>Then again, multiverse theory has been a thing all along if you think in terms of saves and restarts. You die, DEAD. BAD END. Off to another universe the player goes, good as new.
unless you go saveless, then it's just another schmuck getting sent in with a pistol

Oh God yes. https://twitter.com/MemeDose1/status/1148526686234955776?s=19

>>5723810
>the death of innocent people means nothing because multiverse
What drugs are you on?

>>5723825
Pick a near-identical universe with your portal device and HEY! There they are. The exact same people. Visit them any time you want. Ask them to come over for multiverse tea.
Not good enough? Find a universe where they can xerox you those people. It's fine. Multiverse land can do anything.

There’s just one problem about Doom 3 having a completely separate Hell.

>>5723834
All fairly vague lore but I get what you're getting at. Again, I just don't want the multiverse thing to be true.

>>5723834
>Doomguycube kills invulnerable cyberdemon
>Cyberdemon goes to limbo and reports cube for cheating
>Godmin shows up and boots cube from the server/universe
>Cube joins another similar server/universe
Funny

>>5723810
>>5723829
Multiverse does not necessarily mean that the universes within it are identical, or infinite. It just means that there are many more different worlds. People there aren't the same as people here, and might as well not be human.

>>5723736
>>5723739
I think Hell being singular and universal source of all demons in all other universes makes the most sense. Back in the original Doom we can see that Deimos along with everyone on it was pulled into Hell itself. In Doom 2016 we learn that same thing happened with Argent D'Nur. That means that there are more t han one universe, and that hell has presence within at least several. It stands to reason that Hell itself grows with each conquest by adding planets and worlds into itself, and for every world that manages to repell the forces of hell, there are many more that didn't. The remnants of their cultures might persist in the different corners of Hell. It is also possible that Slayer has visited the remnants of these conquered worlds courtesy of him travelling across the Hellscape (iwads).

What do you guys think of Shadow Warrior? I feel like I barely see it discussed here compared to the other games in the build engine holy trinity.

>>5723951
It's mediocre. Not as good as Duke or Blood. Not as bad as Redneck Rampage or Witchaven. There's not much to talk about.
Besides maybe about how its sprites for long have been used in frankenspriting for Doom weapon mods.

>>5723642
Why? Then you could just as well run the original .exe, the entire point with Chocolate is that you don't have to run it with DOS and it'll run just like on release but on later systems.

>>5723706
it's still out of place in a game under the doom name
the adaptions only ever did it because the novels writer was a mormon who unlike sandy seemed to have a problem with it (correct by wrong ass if i'm wrong, tho) and movie execs have more coke in their skull than brains to understand doom
>>5723810
>>5723767
i remember some people comparing doom to zelda but that's probably meaningless
>>5723524
i don't know, the fact that they're simple is what allows them to become level obsctacles or even gimmicks like archvile jumps

>>5723951
I remember liking it but still finding it hard at times

>>5724001
>because the novels writer was a mormon
I'm not sure he was mormon. There were two writers, and I think one of them just thought it would be funny to feature mormons as good guys because he knew that would really upset fedora tipping atheists.

As to why the demons are actually aliens, I think it's because they were prolific writers of Star-Trek novels, and the idea of non-supernatural aliens using advanced technology and bioengineering to make themselves come off as supernatural demons with magic, as a terror/control tactic, is something you'd very much see in the original Star-Trek TV series, and probably featured in the novelizations.
I think that's kind of an odd direction to take things considering how despite the guys at iD being fans of Star-Trek, Doom is preciously little like it, the game is much more like pulp sci-fi action, as compared to Star-Trek, which is fairly little action with comparatively sparse violence, instead focusing on interpersonal conflict and trying to pose moral quandaries and philosophical questions.

Any good wads with vampire related stuff besides the Castlevania inspired ones?

I have a problem.
Eviternity Map 10, using PrBoom+, two of the switches aren't working.

Has anyone else had this problem and/or understand how to fix it?

Goldsource is weird.

I usually prefer to play old fps with texture filtering off. But for some reason unlike Quake, HL and Thief look way less crispy without filtering.

Maybe its the way the textures were made.

>>5724052
If i'm not mistaken, the OpenGL renderer in Half-Life render textures a little broken. Something related to "gl_round_down" not working in it.
Software in the other hand render pixelated textures correctly.

>>5724071
For exemple, here is the OpenGL rendering that same panel texture. With "gl_round_down 0" and "gl_texturemode gl_nearest".

>>5724052
It's because most of the textures in HL are really weird sizes instead of the standard multiples of 2 dimensions (32x, 64x, 128x, etc). When id made GLQuake, one of the bugs introduced is that any textures that aren't a multiple of 2 are (badly) resized to fit a multiple; this isn't really noticeable in Quake because most textures in the game are already 64x64 or 128x128, but Valve either missed the bug or didn't care because they intended HL1 to be played in hardware accelerated mode with filtering enabled anyway.

>>5721337
What's the best way to play the half life series? Didn't see anything in the pastebin. I figure Half life 2 and their episodes hold up fine as is but the og series is what I'm looking to play.

>>5724093
Literally just buy it and play it.

>>5724096
I mean does it actually still hold up considering the resolution limitations and graphics etc. I was thinking it needed something like Quakgasm or GZDoom

>>5724098
>considering the resolution limitations and graphics etc.
There are none, Goldsrc will run natively with hor+ FoV scaling at any resolution you tell it to.

>>5724098
It holds up, but Valve messed it up slightly over the years. It's playable, it works, but a bunch of small details are gone. Xash3D is a Steam-free sourceport which would fix these things. Whether or not you want to bother setting it up or if you're fine with a few details changed is up to you.

Whatever you do, don't play the Source version on Steam, it's extremely fucky and broken, it was a complete slapdash job and I can't believe they still have it up after all these years.

>>5723951
Its great

Is it just me or are the levels in Redneck Rampage extremely flat? The verticality that made the best levels in Duke3D and Blood so enjoyable is just gone.

>>5724141
They start out flat, and get more vertical as it goes.

>>5724096
Just buy it and play it, its fine the way it is.

Can anyone help me with this?
i need to make it so that the wall would basicly floor would lower down so that once there the player has the access to the exit, but for some reason it doesn't work, and i don't know why.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/paq5bz/alt-doom-mod-stalker

This was actually kind of interesting to read.
It starts getting weirdly and unrelatedly political near the end (which I honestly totally expected from Vice), and you could just stop reading by that part, because he basically stops talking about Doom .wads

I did try ALT.wad once, but kind of disregarded it with the first level, because I felt the use of SS troopers felt goofy and amateurish. Given the stuff described though, it kinda makes me wanna give it another chance.

>>5724093
I'm playing it on my phone with Xash3D, and it's surprisingly playable. Platforming is a bit tricky, and I wouldn't play on hard, due to touchscreen controls. But it's p good.

>>5724141
>>5724154
Oh. And the sewer level sucks. The only map in RR I thought was outright bad. Look up a walkthrough for it. It's a sort of puzzle map where all you see is one type of monster in it the whole time. It's lame. Game gets better though.

>>5724183
Why does the button have to pass a trigger? IF you need something inbetween, consider a relay.


Now my question: When I lower a secret door via a trigger_once, how can I make it close forever afterwards? I removed the "open once" flag and set the wait from -1 to 5, but it won't close again until I shoot it.

>>5724183
func_walls dont move. their use is to be a wall thats filtered by difficulty or removed from existence by a trigger. you need a func_door if you want a moving wall.
also the trigger_once doesnt need an angle. and it doesnt even need to be a trigger brush, it could be a relay entity (since its targeted rather than touched)

Anyone here play Hedon? It any good?

>>5724198
just set the wait to 999999 or something similarly high enough that it overflows, iirc
doors that literally open once and then fuck you out of a secret for good are a dick move though

>>5724210
It's not locking anyone out of a secret, but that passage leads to a fight in an area you had passed through before, but you weren't able to see the door.

>>5723730
Go on...

>>5724191
anon
you complete and UTTER BAFFON YOU DONT GIVE CLICKS TO THESE FUCKING PEOPLE

use the archive please

https://web.archive.org/web/20180225005932/https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/paq5bz/alt-doom-mod-stalker

>>5722167
I recorder a couple of demos (first and second try):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jxyhc41z3ty8a14/id1.rar/file
Hope you add some secrets before the 14th and polish things like the door not working properly. Detail comes later.

>>5724224
You're right, sorry.
But still, I think it was somewhat interesting to read, to a point.

>>5723036
Fuck the boomer t-shirt merchants

>>5723036
They confirmed the names been changed. Announcing he new name on the 11th as well as a new trailer and likely a final release date.

I hope it's "Bombshell 3D" myself

What the fuck is wrong with Brutal Wolfenstein?

I can't do it lads. I officially give up. Mappings too fucking hard. Map looks like shit, plays like shit. Can't come up with any ideas of what to do. Too much shit is broken on my map already. Lights are fucked. 90% of textures are fucked.

Don't have the patience for this kinda thing I'm too ADHD. I can't wait for the package to play everyone else's levels though.

Especially you Skeleton and 007 Dam dudes

>>5724083
Bad choice really.

Especially for Thief because it has tons of atmosphere but looks grainy.
However when you use that patch that makes vanilla textures slightly higher res it looks
better.

I just wanted Thief to look like Quake it would be amazing. But apparently it fucks up shadows. You cant make only the shadows have the filter.


>>5724071
Interedasting
>>5724082
There are those options on the config made by xash. Should I enable them?

>>5724093
Xash.

Just follow the instructions and put folders inside and activate the games like mods inside the game.

Imho I think Half Life holds really well. I wish somebody did for HL what that dude that made Echoes did. Masterpiece. Just improve every single level geometry. Black Mesa in Echoes and vanilla is comfy as fuck how I wish somebody made a full Black Mesa map that you could just explore before the cascade.

I really like how HL\blue shift and Opfor flow. Especially HL, games still had that sound reverb I love and are pretty atmospheric at least for me. I think Thief even build engine games had better levels but hl will always hold a place in my heart. Ever since uplink.

>>5724285
You are not special, get in line.

>>5724114
>Anonymous 07/09/19(Tue)20:31:27 No.5

Like what?
I still prefer the vanilla shit unlike the blue shift high definition pack.

The source version is really a fucking mess. At least do it properly, I knew something was wrong with it.

>>5724268
Wish they changed her lines.

She sounds like shit.

>>5724302
>Especially HL, games still had that sound reverb I love and are pretty atmospheric at least for me.
SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUICK SQUEAK SQUICK SQUEAK
>Do you know who ate all the donuts?

>>5724315
OKAY CONTROL

>>5724198
>>5724201
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vdkohhr64b1FQCDqIWgAHTlA0nrWckKn
Welp here is my Submission to the Mapping contest, i already sent the submission to the mail, but i could use some feedback on it.
also it's extremely short

>>5724323
Additionally i would reccomend to play on skill 3
as skill 2 and lower is way too easy in my opinion

>>5724114
You need to find a proper workflow. Make a basic layout, detail and lighting is the last thing wou should work in.
Try new things for broken things, itinerate and don't be afraid of erase entire zones.

>>5724317
WE'VE
GOT
HOSTILES

>>5724289
If Xash fixes the "gl_round_down" bug then it will look just like the software renderer.
I don't have it installed so I don't really know.

>>5723846
The Soul Cube is supposed to be apart of Doom 3, but it shows up in Doom 4. This might make sense if they have the same Hell, because the Soul Cube got left behind in Hell at the end of Doom 3, meaning the only way Doom 4’s UAC could’ve found it is by going on one of their many Hell expeditions, and they brought it back with them.

>>5724329
You know skill 3 is nightmare, right? The difficulties start at 0.

>>5724345
oh... my bad i meant the hard difficulty
i made most of the monster have the spawning tags of "Not easy" and "Not normal" so

>>5724289
>You cant make only the shadows have the filter.
You can actually do this now

>those prisoner voice lines in Quake II
what the fuck, this sounds like placeholder audio from a pre-release version, not retail

Finished Good Morning Phobos with Dakka, Vanilla Doom Plus and Legendoom Lite.
VDP is alright for an enemy mod that tries to be as vanilla friendly as possible.
The author updated it but i kept playing a version of the mod before he fixed some things.

>>5724352
AAH
LET ME OUT
IT HURTS
KILL ME

>>5724351
Really? I will download latest ddfix and check out. Thanks.

>>5724338
I fucking love Half Life soldier lines.
And Thief Guards.

I wonder if something like cyberpunk will even have random lines for stealth or charm like that.

>>5723810
Who the fuck cares.
I wish it was really HELL. Meet King Minos.
Talk to Hector in purgatory level.

Nu Doom monsters dont look threatening at all.

>>5723951
Great game all build engine games are. But it has some stink levels.

Then again even Blood had dull moments. But Wang is just less interesting than Duke or Caleb.

>>5724323
that was adorable. just a quick note, one side of the spine/pelvis section has an invisible wall, and one does not.

>>5724374
Blood was dull for almost its entire second half

>>5724382
Playing it recently for me it really peaked at that mansion level.
But some later episodes have good levels as well.

>>5724381
I checked, there is the issue but i can't understand why it does that to be honest, i didn't put any sort of clipping wall or anything there, so i don't know what to do about it.

>>5724289
>I just wanted Thief to look like Quake it would be amazing. But apparently it fucks up shadows. You cant make only the shadows have the filter.
That's changed. The texture filter and shadow filter are separated now in NewDark.
It doesn't look like software rendering did on release (which is all I wanted really) but it can at least run with unfiltered textures.

>>5723720
It used to be there i know but alas no more just doom quake and build now

>>5724365
>Really? I will download latest ddfix and check out. Thanks.
Copy pasted this from /v/

BUILDER AID THEE
TFix Lite 1.26 or newer
Open cam_ext.cfg
mipmap_mode 0
tex_filter_mode 0
;tex_filter_trilinear
;square_parts_as_disks
;pixel parts_as_disks
movie_sw_scale_quality 0

Unfiltered textures + smooth shadows is how Thief always should have looked

>>5724371

>>5724071
They fixed it few months ago, switch to the beta update branch if the textures are still fucked

>>5724416
>mipmap_mode 0
>tex_filter_mode 0
>;tex_filter_trilinear

These are all I needed, the rest are already like that in regular ddfix, also works in Thief 2 tafferpatcher. Looks good. The higher res vanilla textures help. Not using any HD pack mind you just the better textures.

>>5724416
does this apply to thief 2?

>>5724439
Holy crap didn't know that!
Just tested and it works!
Where did you get this info?

I dont know what the fuck to play. I bought Ion Maiden during the sale and had a blast but it was only 2 fucking levels. What should I play?

>>5724302
another Anon recommended Xash, thanks as well. It was stupid easy to set up and so far so good! been going through a lot of classic FPS that I really never beat as a kid but played the shit out of them. Just finished Doom and Doom 2 on Ultra Violence using GZDoom and almost done with Quake with Quakegasm. Thinking I might do Quake 2 before digging into Half Life though. Even though I know a lot of people consider Quake 2 to just be a tech demo lol

>>5724474
Try more Build Engine games.

>>5724464
Some guy on Github bumped an old ticket about texture scaling, and one Valve dev actually fixed it, and turned off texture filtering by default.

>>5724475
>Quakegasm
this is the sixth time in this thread alone someone has misspelled quakespasm

>>5724484
I played through Blood, Duke and Shadow Warrior. Whats the best game build engine game besides those?

>>5724305
Here.

if i open someone elses map in trenchbroom its just wireframe. How do i also apply the textures too?

>>5724503
you need the texture wad
unless they use custom textures you should be fine with the quake defaults

>>5724323
Feedback would simply be have more stuff to do. Have some buttons you need to push, some platforms to travel up his leg dive down into his bladder lol etc etc

>>5724492
Those are generally considered the holy trinity of Build.

The PC version of Powerslave/Exhumed is supposed to be pretty good, it's different from the Saturn/Playstation version, which is a bit more like Super Metroid in how you progress through levels, doesn't run on Build on those consoles though.
Has Don LaFontaine doing some voice work, the guy with the deep voice who used to voice every single movie trailer up until his death in the 2000s.

Tekwar is ludicrously fucking bad, and I don't recommend playing it, though it might be interesting to look at for how bafflingly low quality/low effort it is. See also: Extreme Paintbrawl

Witchaven seems to appeal somewhat to some, I haven't actually played this one, but it looks remarkably ugly.

Redneck Rampage I haven't played either, but it seems to be VERY liked by some, so I figure it must be doing something right.

Tangentially related; Rise Of The Triad is not on the Build engine, but in fact made on a souped up Wolf3D engine, it was made by 3DRealms back when they were Apogee, and they were considering using the Build engine, but they opted not to. Ultimately their first game on Build would be the fabled Duke Nukem 3D. It's worth checking out, as it has a bit of the feel of Duke and Shadow Warrior to it, and is legit very fun.

>>5723374
I don't know if it's possible, I'll look those things later
>>5723383
I don't know anon, I already surpassed the clipping plane inside trenchbroom
>

just finished quake 1 on nightmare, it's excellent but it would've been perfect if it werent for episode 4, it does have some good levels but the majority of them are a mixed bag

>>5724615
I found out that you can make steps with 4 depth and 16 height without a problem. Maybe it would also work with 2 units. At least you could make some really steep stairs.

>>5724615
btw, this made me respect rare even more, the level is absolutely huge

>>5721927 here, I made some changes to the map. I switched the location of the grenade launcher and the super shotgun, made some trigggers and added a super secret supersecret that probably nobody will find.

pic related is my time with just finding this one secret.

link is still the same: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eazle5weub9bnf0/q1_technotomb.zip?dl=0

>>5723415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyspweHYBd4&t=166s

>>5723292
>>5724615
I missed this, wtf anon

The pile grows

H-hello? Anon that is working on map beautifier?
Are you there?
How is progress going?

>should be working on HUH map
>keeping head upright for more than two seconds drips mucus all over my keyboarb
hufghghh

>>5724615
I was thinking if the dam wall was sloped or just vertical, holy shit, I hope you don't have leaks

>>5724671
drink lots of water

>>5724323
That was a funny little map. As other people said, there isn't much to do. And from the stairs leading to the skull you can already jump on the heart, so either you change that or just leave the step that's appearing after you push the skull button.
Also, do I have to jump the key button? I walked up to it a few times and nothing worked until I jumped on it.
Also, it would be pretty cool to be able to get into the skull. Pushing all kinds of buttons, make the legs or arms move or stuff like that.

>>5724690
Hell, you could make it so that the enemies are basically some disease and you have to fight it.

I heard they're going to revive Evolution Of The Wad, and I'm excited.

>>5724671
Having a flu, bro? Sucks, I had one recently and I got a fever so I high I didn't know what the fuck was happening or what I was doing, my body was numb.
And yeah, dunk down some water.

>>5724323
Did I add a penis to your map?

Yes. Yes of course I did.

https://streamable.com/akoj9

>>5724704
neat
now we only need intermission to come back and my life will recover some luster

>>5724704
When is this happening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgCJGH9Wk0

>>5724704
not even a flu, just horrible seasonal allergies that no amount of meds are doing anything about
if it were a flu at least i could possibly make a map from horrible fever dreams

I like this vulkan renderer, its outrageously sharp

Why is Episode 3 of Blood so boring?

>>5724730
So what's the point of the vulkan renderer, nobody has ever really specified. Does it improve performance or graphics? Or is it just something added just 'cause.

>>5724732
Shareware was a mistake

>>5724665
I'm probably gonna re-send my map with fixes and new details if I get some time before friday.

>>5724740
I noticed that its more sharp and colors are more vivid for me, it also runs better but takes longer to start up(opengl is instant, vulkan takes like 4 or 5 seconds)
This is a similar screenshot in opengl and you can see its a bit blurrier with the same settings, things also look better at long distance and when in motion while playing in vulkan, but from what i've just googled its not supposed to be that different? might just be a gzdoom thing

>>5724740
Vulkan is a renderer with less hacks in its code so it should improve performance for maps that heavily relies on Hardware effects (such as 3D floors and dynamic lights) but looking just as like OpenGL.

>>5724767
As for this sharpening, that's just your illusion, there's no visual difference from both renderers, what matters is the post processing effects.

>>5724491
Quakegasm sounds like a very strong orgasm lol

>>5724767
>>5724730
what map?

>>5724805
adonis map01

>>5724718
Don't know, but supposedly CapnClever is working on it, which makes me really excited.
Those long hours of Doom mapping theory blabber stimulates my autism more than almost anything else.

>>5724729
I'm somewhat familiar with this here, because I just found out I'm allergic to cats, after living 16 years with one. Can't have been at the beginning, must have been a later development as I've only more recently been having health problems.

Does anyone else think Eveternity plays like shit? Its just slaughter room after slaughter room. Map 14 was fucking exhausting and just kind of tedious. I don't like dropping things halfway through but I'm just not having fun anymore.

>>5724285
stick with it. you will be hating your self for giving up at the hardest part. watch those tutorials on youtube that have been posted all the time

>>5724823
I felt that way too, I went through it for a while just because of how fucking PRETTY it is, and how good the music is, but the point I stopped was when on map 17 you're stuck in a hallway with a revenant behind you and a cyberbaron and knight in front of you.

>>5724285
you are often your worst critic
post that shit in here so we can tell you to stop being a faggot and NOT quit

>>5724829
>you will be hating your self for giving up at the hardest part.
don't worry, the hate eventually dissipates into a more generalized sort of despair and self-loathing

>>5724839
I love the recent resurgence in Quake edits

What is your personal favorite Doom wad?

>>5724823
Meh, it has a lot of good fights but a lot that are unfun or overly "gotcha". And the new enemies are stupid as fuck. But everybody acts like it's perfect because muh architecture muh textures.

>>5724845
/arena/ was good folks

>>5724823
it looks good but plays like shit, some of the maps have purposely unfun areas and then throw fuck squads of archviles in the middle just to pad out the levels.

>>5724491
I mean who the fuck cares. I was doing it from memory and you knew what I was talking about.

what are the advantages of quakespasm over fte? or is it just because you guys have had quakespasm on your system for forever.

>>5724848
Is Alien Vendetta too pleb of an answer?

>>5724907
if it wasn't good it would be

>ask my man about how the fuck I can improve performance in GZDoom
>he sends me this

don't know if its from these threads or whatever but it actually made hurt.wad play nicely with my computer
and I didn't even have to turn off dynamic lights
you may also want to ignore turning blood and puffs into particles if you can afford it, I think that looks a bit off but hey, it works

>>5724897
it just werks, is tiny, is a pure quake 1 engine built off id's own opengl port instead of a multi-game mishmash, and most people only use it for Q1SP so they don't need the quakeworld functionality of fteqw