/vr/ - Retro Games

Yeah, some of their games are overrated.

>Gunstar Heroes (le best run 'n gun ever)
>Mischief Makers (le quirky female protagonist)
>Sin & Punishment (le japan-only N64 hidden gem)
>Radiant Silvergun (le overpriced Saturn rarity)
>Ikaruga (le best shmup of all time)
>Gradius V (le best Gradius game in the series)

>>5709156
Show me a Dev studio with more then 5 games that doesn't have a bad one? Treasure has a ton of solid games. Fuck even the McDonald's game on the Genesis is great.

>>5709156
if they're overrated then whose underrated
seriously

>>5709324
*who's fuck im phoneposting

>>5709312
>>5709267
Dilate

>>5709267
Shake! Shake!

>>5709317
I would say New Blood has a perfect record right now but they only have 2 releases so we need to give them time. Dusk and Amid Evil are fucking perfect.

No, most people don't even know about them. Something has to be rated a lot to be overrated. Most people don't give a shit about the genre of games they focused on.

They are highly rated amongst hardcore gamers and shmup enthusiasts, but not overrated at all in general. Don't know why there's so many bait threads about them.

Nah, they deserve the praise they get. Collectorfags are just mad at the prices, which is their own fault for being collectorfags.

My only real experience of them is with Gunstar Hereos and Dynamite Headdy, which were both overrated in various "Genesis games that you should play" lists.

>>5709267
Yeah I dunno why, Gradius has never appealed to me but Gradius V is fucking awesome.

>>5709354
Which is funny because only about four of their games are super expensive. You can get Sin & Punishment for dirt cheap on Yahoo.

>it's been over 5 years since they put Ikaruga on steam and STILL no Silvergun HD, Guardian Heroes HD, or Bangai-O Missile Fury PC ports
What the fuck are you doing, Maegawa

FUCK TREASURE FUCK IKARUGA FUCK SUPER CASTLEVANIA BROS FUCK HALF LIFE FUCK CS FUCK PRIME

>>5709428
[x] based
[x] redpilled

trashuretards need to be gassed

>>5709418
Apparently Treasure has only been getting offers for mobile social games, gatchashit, etc and Maegawa refuses so they've been keeping afloat with ports, but a lot of employees left for other jobs. They've hinted that they have new stuff in development and presumably they're assembling a new team. Treasure games have always had an indie spirit so they'll fit right in with what's on Steam.

if you like trashure you don't belong in /vr/.

>Trashure amirite omg lel.
Light Crusader is a solid as fuck game and so is Ikaruga. Could never really enjoy Gunstar Heroes somehow even though I have nothing bad to say about it. Same goes for Alien Soldier, although I can't help but respect pretty muche very single thing about this game's design. Somehow, after all these years I'm still yet to play the Saturn beat'em up (and its little known GBA sequel).

>>5709437
Please don't associate Treasure games with indieshit. Their games aren't THAT terrible.

>>5709479
Is that a picture of you after HRT?

>>5709485
Me on the left.

when will /vr/ admit treasure sucks?
when will you prove me right for once?

>>5709482
Shut up fag Treasure are OG indie devs. They've always stayed a very small company that keeps budgets small.

take your meds australia-kun

>>5709501
Videogame companies with more than a dozen people working for them like Treasure can't be considered "indie", which is usually just 1 or 2 unskilled nobodies who shat out kusoge.

>/vr/-kun, australia-kun, valve-kun, schizo
keep believing in boogeymen, cucks.

>>5709506
Alien Solder was almost entirely made by a single person. Quit fucking embarassing yourself.

>>5709482
>>5709501
Treasure has never, ever released a single fucking game without an external publisher. They were published by Sega, Nintendo, Bandai, Enix, Capcom, Konami, Working Designs (for ports) and a whole lot of no-name publishers, but, love it or hate it, they were never, EVER indie, fucking PERIOD.

>rpgcodex poster, quake larper
forgot these two.

>>5709506
"Indie" is when you are self-published, dipshit. The word is short for "independent".

>>5709514
And there are "indie" games that are published by companies like Devolver. Maegawa describes the company again and again as an indie company.

>>5709510
It was also published by Sega, the second biggest label of its time. So it was the diametral opposite of indie.
I.e. you're both stupid as fuck.

>>5709510
He still had to get hired by Treasure, and also work on games previously for them and prove himself worthy. Meanwhile, any talentless indie faggot can just release any sort of garbage on PC and will get praised as long as it/they follow an SJW agenda.

Also you're wrong, there were at least ten people credited for Alien Soldier.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/alien-soldier/credits

>>5709510
Ikaruga too. I believe It was pretty much done by Hiroshi Uchi and maybe another guy.

>>5709523
They were only brought in at the end to get the game done quicker, and he wanted to do the whole thing himself. And only a retard believes that more than 1% of indie games have an SJW agenda. Cope harder.

>>5709156
Gunstar and I guess Guardian Heroes are their only games that are overrated. Gunstar's good, but not Contra good.

Dynamite Headdy's underrated.

So this is why Treasure's fanbase is so insufferable, it's the same group of pozzed libshits that eat up modern indie filth.

>>5709519
No.

>>5709548
Have sex.

>>5709546
>>5709551
Who the fuck let you out of the containment board?

Imagine not enjoying a videogame because its developer doesn't align to the same ideology you believe in.

>>5709561
Imagine supporting an (((indie developer))) or being fine with how today's industry only accepts your game if you bow to the SJWs.

you people are the cancer that is killing /vr/.

>>5709573
In actuality, they're the cancer that is killing /v/, whereas /vr/ is the chemo that is killing both.

>>5709551
dilate

>all this australia-kun autism
Makes me enjoy Treasure even more knowing it makes his blood boil lmao

>>5709508
australia-kun is real.
none of his memes caught up and he only found a little bit of relief by riding the /vg/ shitposting waves. pretty sad if you ask me, all these years and he's still at it.

>>5709381
You should try Gradius Gaiden, it's even better than V but doesn't have the artificial difficulty like arcade Gradius games suffer from.

>>5709630
>artificial difficulty

>>5709615
His impersonators are real, but I haven't seen the original post here in years. People just like to keep the pretense of him being here alive because he was funny and a bit off his rocker.

Anti-Treasure shitposting because they betrayed Sega by making games for other platforms isn't an original Australia-kun meme btw, that was added on later by the fakers for the lulz.

All shitty /vr/ memes were invented by Australia-kun, fact.

falseflag threads should be a bannable offense.

>>5709656
Yeah anon, because 4chan totally has an option to let you check IPs.
Why would an old shitposter have impersonators?

Treasure is alright, their games are original and have quality production values, even if they aren't the absolute best of their genres. Dynamite Heady is a scotformer worth at least one playthrough, for instance.

>>5709665
according to mods on irc, australia makes the /ogg/, sega system, scotformer, and others.

>>5709672
Because its funny baiting people into believing you're an old shitposter.

Sorry I've kept the facade going for so long, I'll quit rehashing his memes and adding more shit onto the pile LARPing as him.

>>5709686
k

Somewhat?
They're still the most consistently good developer out there.
How many bad games have they even made?
Anyway:
Gunstar Heroes really is the best run 'n gun ever
McDonalds game is decent babby shit
Dynamite Headdy is a really good platformer
Alien Soldier is 2 deep 4 me
Astro Boy is my favorite from them desu
Gunstar Super Heroes is kinda overrated

>>5709696
I thought everyone hated Gunstar Super Heroes. Picked it up yesterday, only got one level in but it's really good. I don't get the hate.

>>5709712
I never saw any hate for Super Heroes
I always heard it called a hidden gem because no one bought it because it was a GBA game in 2005

>>5709696
>Astro Boy is my favorite from them desu
Extremely based, I think it's my favorite as well. Even if not retro.

>>5709696
>>5709725
Have you played their Tiny Toons GBA game? It's simplier but very similar to Astro Boy. It just feels great to play.

>>5709696
>Gunstar Heroes really is the best run 'n gun ever
>Gunstar Super Heroes is kinda overrated
Gunstar Heroes is the overrated of the two. Super Heroes is undervalued and Gunstar is overvalued. They're both just good games.

In this thread Astro Boy is overrated.

>>5709731

>>5709728
Superheroes has amazing gameplay but is unfortunately ruined by having mostly shit level design.

>>5709731
GBA Astroboy was only good because it had Sega AM3 helping them on it. Leave it to Trashure to not be able to make a decent game on their own.

>>5709783

>>5709156
overrated
like holy shit, Smash kids couldn't stop begging for Saki
Treasure is small time as fuck and SnP is never getting another new release

>brings up smash
>>>/v/

>>5709783
Yes. AM3 had a reputation for making high quality 2D games. I’m sure Treasure relied on them for their expertise.

>>5710549
>AM3 had a reputation for making high quality 2D games.
And Treasure does?

>>5710589
Not him but uh, yeah they do.

Reminder that hating popular games and developers does in fact make you an interesting person who clearly has exquisite taste in video games.

>>5709546
Wow, I bet you're fun at parties.

>>5710784
Fuck, need to start hating good games. Where can I start? Hating nintendo or sega isn't contrarian enough right?

>>5709546
I'm the Panzer Bandit faggot that shills this game in every thread. Play Panzer Bandit, also play Mad Stalker while you're at it, they're just as great if not better than Guardian Heroes.

>>5710797
tresure, sunsoft, square, falcom

>>5710795
>going to parties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCeOf2q6_TA

>>5710832
back to /v/

>>5709156

Treasure games are shallow, pretentious and lame. Their servile fanboys beautifully reflect that.

5711182
literally no argument.

Cmon shitposter give a good reason to hate them.

>TRASHURE TRASHURE

>>5709696

>Gunstar Heroes really is the best run 'n gun ever

Not even the best run 'n gun on its system

>>5711182
>shallow
In what way? they're always about the gameplay first. They put most of their attention to the controls and game mechanics.
>pretentious
What does this mean? Treasure games are almost always kind of tongue-in-cheek. Are you just throwing words just because?
>lame
Wow, wait... you convinced me. Treasure sucks! how did I not realize until now? All I needed was anon to tell me they are LAME, lmao, holy shit, how lame they are.

stop bumping this bait thread

All anti-Treasure shitposting is just seething from Sonyggers because they didn't get any good games from them on the PSX.

Same reason why Castlevania X68000 gets overrated here, it's the only retro Classicvania they got for a Sony system.

tl;dr fuck Sonyscum.

>>5709529
MY FUCKING NEGRO

>>5709437
>Treasure games have always had an indie spirit
Guess that explains why their games were always so bad, then.

>>5709312
SÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖY!! Face

>>5712591
Explain why you think they're bad.
Hard mode: actual arguments.

>>5712605
Nah.

Stay triggered that some people don't worship the same shitty developers you do, though.

>>5712610
Dude, most people in the planet don't know who Treasure are, lol.
Why should I be triggered by opinions on the internet? I just wanted to discuss. I'm all for different opinions and views.

>>5709696
>Gunstar Heroes really is the best run 'n gun ever
No way
>Alien Soldier is 2 deep 4 me
Parry during stages for extra health, abuse the dash to melt boss health, use lance to kill/finish off what you can't cheese with the dash, abuse dash iframes to dodge attacks. The game isn't deep or complex, it's very simple, arguably simpler than Hard Corps, but it's poorly designed and has a bunch of bullshit to sort through until you can start playing in earnest.

>>5709312

>>5709371
how is dynamite headdy overrated?

>>5709727
that game was fucking awful. probably treasure's absolute worst game. felt like playing an alpha build.

>>5710525
i like S&P but even i admit saki doesn't have nearly enough abilities to be anything more than assist trophy.

>>5710784
being asshurt over people not having your pedestrian taste doesn't make you an interesting person either.

>>5711681
the long hand guy fight in stage 4 says otherwise. jesus christ that was fucking boring. and they make you fight it on every path too. more like hard cucks.
LMFAO @ ur fucking life

>>5713732
Fair criticism except ironic coming from a fag who likes a game with the dice palace where all the bosses are a waste of time

>>5713738
none of those bosses force you to wait half a minute to wait for the next phase. they can also be finished in around that same amount of time or less. how is that a "waste of time"?

>>5713746
Except all of them are just standing around and then slightly repositioning yourself or doing a simplistic loop, for example the slime is 10+ seconds of waiting on one side then going to the other side and waiting a total of 20 sec for ONE BOSS. Both are shitty but desu I'd rather have Hard Corps' seven force knockoff than the dice palace

>>5713752
>desu
lurk more newfag

>>5713759
>he stopped ironically using twitter nigger talk when it got filtered
baka desu senpai

>>5709156
When you can make a Mc Donald's game good, you have some serious talent.

>>5713804

The only thing mcdonalds about that game is the fact you play as ronald. It's like they took another game and added him in.

>>5713726
Your opinion and taste is unpopular anyway. Nobody will find you interesting, not girls (obviously) and not even fellow video game fans. You're alone in this universe, anon.

>>5714105
>i-i-if I start liking Treasure I'll fit in with the cool kids!

You are literally an NPC.

>>5714129
Your opinion is still unpopular as fuck, and you're unpopular as fuck IRL too.

>>5714134
Same goes to you. You're posting on a shitty imageboard after all. Only difference is you're a failed normie that thinks you'll get laid for liking Treasure, which is hilarious.

lmao you are mentally ill.

>>5714137
Actually, last girl that slept with me wanted to check out some of my gaming stuff and she spotted my GBA, she played a bit of Astro Boy Omega Factor and liked it, lmao.
You're a loser.

>>5709267
>all of those excepting Ikaruga being overrated
You have to go back.

Why you niggers dont go back to /v/eddit?
Your schizo threads will make more sense there.

They only achieved actual greatness with Hiroshi Iuchi's shmups (Silvergun, Ikaruga, Gradius V) which are some of the best in the genre. The rest of their catalog ranges from mediocre to shit.

>>5714485
>liking Iuchi more than Suganami
Lol, what a gay.

>>5714485
>Sin and Punishment
>mediocre or shit
You can fuck right off.

>>5712029

In that sense that treasure games give you the impression they are deep and polished games. And they are absolutely not, Gunstar heroes has sprite flickering all over the place. And like most treaure games it's an absolute joyless experience. The graphics in guardian heores are laughably bad. Like some 11 year old whipped those sprites up on the fly. And radiant silvergun is fugly for an arcade game. So once you have made peace with the fact that most of their games are eyesores, you stay for the "deep" gameplay. Which isnt there either. I couldnt even remember any of their tunes either. On the bright side Ikaruga was pretty good though. But thats too little too late.

>>5714585
Not him, but NAMI's only good game is Alien Soldier. Gunstar has too many shit levels such as Dice Palace, Mischief Makers is overly and stupidly gimmicky and Sin & Punishment is alright but too easy.

>>5714650
>>5714654
Embarrassing shit opinions with no substance. Try again.

Since we are on the subject, I do think the ship speed in Radiant Silvergun is too slow. Completely ruin the stage 3 twin sub bosses.

>>5709267
>if I put le in front of something I'll fool them into thinking these great games aren't great
Back to >>>/v/ the kiddie goes

>>5714660
>no criticism is good enough for muh beloved treasure
This is why you're a fanboy.

>>5711681
Goodness no, you post what is actually probably the most overrated game on the system and in its series

>>5714660

enjoy your hip shovelware onions face

>they are bad because i dont like the graphics.
Ebic now back to /v/.

>>5714709
>reading comprehension, you dont have it

>>5714712
>>5714707
Stay mad shmuptrannies

>>5714585
>gunstar heroes
shit levels like dice palace

>alien soldier
boss rush games are shit

>mischief makers
shit levels like 3-10

>sin & punishment
boss rush games are shit

fuck nami
fuck trashure

>>5709312
>>5709267
go back to /v/

>>5714650
Your post started nice, I had the hopes that you, FOR ONCE, would actually give actual arguments as to why you think their games aren't good.
But then... you just mention graphics? lol.
You and your irrational hateboner for Treasure are a joke. But eh... keep making these threads I guess. Always good to see Treasure's logo in the catalog.

>>5714794
Still not arguments

I love treasure games.

I love treasure games.

>>5714851

Dude i dont get it. The graphics suck, maybe with the exception of dynamite headdy. Their music is unmemorable. The gameplay isnt satisfying. The gameflow stinks. What else is there that gives you a treasure boner? Sound effects, the packaging, the fan service merch? Enlighten me what makes treasure games so great then?

5714961
lmao stay mad

>when you SEETHE so hard over people not sucking Masato Maegawa's cock like you that you don't even sage correctly
now that's a loller

>>5714664
>i dont care if it's a good answer i just care if it meets my posting guidelines

why dont you go back you weird little dweeb

must suck having treasure living in your head rent free.

>>5714951
this doesn't cut it, give me at least three reasons why you like their games and none of them can be opinion i want hard facts and sound arguments

The fun part is they actually tell themselves its just one lone anon hating Treasure games. Thats so freaking delusional. So far i have seen a couple on here.

Dynamite Headdy seems like a fun game but it is an eyesore and I could never bare to look at it for too long. That game has the most garish color palette I've ever seen.

lmao the delusion. take your meds schizo.

>>5709312
>pol posting again

This is not your safespace, pol. And calling people basedboys is racist. You 're assuming asians who love onions sauce and other onions products if being inferior persons. That' s racism. But you're pol...

HI FIVE BASEDFACE :D

>>5713726
>don't call me out on my forced negativity
cope more

>The fun part is they actually tell themselves its just one lone anon hating Treasure games. Thats so freaking delusional. So far i have seen a couple on here.

There is nothing wrong with liking treasure games, drinking soi milk, and letting your 'girlfriend' get fucked by a big black bull while you watch.

>autistralia screeching thread
>150 replies
We did it /v/!

>>5715042

ok i admit it i dont care about treasure. i just wanted to see if the other guy was this desperate. looks like he really hates that company.

>>5715058

Yeah. The other 4chan guy who keeps making all these posts while you sleep. Oh wait...

>>5714961
I mean, you're still not giving arguments, guy.
"unmemorable"; "isn't satisfying", "stinks", all your personal, subjective impressions but you aren't even explaining why you think that way, all you're saying is "I don't like it", nothing else.

>>5715104

If i had the time to analytical disect those games pixel by pixel on youtube i would do that. Just for you. Thats a lie. I wouldnt do that.
Besides stuff like sprite flickering in gunstar, or low quality textures in silvergun are objectively visible. The amateurish sprite work in guardian heroes is clearly visible as well. I could make a fucking list with all the crap on it. But then you would run away and shitpost in the next thread. Without me.

>>5715119
You sure have the time to always let everyone know how much you hate Treasure though! hahaha.
I mean, you're still talking about graphics... I was expecting something more gameplay-related? But okay, let's say Gunstar Heroes has sprite flickering, RSG has some low-quality textures, and GH has "amateurish" sprite work (?)... so, just because of that, Treasure SUUUUUCKS, right?

>>5715124

DONT MAKE ME DO IT BASEDFACE

>>5715130
Do it faggot.
Do make a logn analytic video about why Treasure actually isn't good.
Who knows, you might find yourself a zoomer audience who will take your word for granted and start parroting it all across the internet. Wouldn't that be your dream? Your memes never worked on /vr/, but they might work on Youtube!

>>5715132

Ok you win this time. But i will be back when you least expect it.

>>5714996
It's ugly, but it's the particular type of ugly that's striking and continually interesting throughout.

>>5715147
>heel gimmick posting
Absolutely ducking pathetic, keep it on /v/ where it belongs

I can't wait for when Australia-kun becomes an e-celeb.

>>5715246
I remember when I came across this tranny e-celeb bong who spergs about old british computers and does anti-nintendo propaganda, I actually thought he might be Australia-kun, lol. Unlikely, but still funny to imagine. I think the name was kimjustice.

TREASURE SUCKS LMAO

>>5714664
"le" is from a different site, the name of which you get banned for mentioning
OT: no, 90% of their games are short but very sweet

>>5714654
>Dice Palace
>shit and not the most fun part of the game besides Hard/Expert Seven Force
Bro, enough with the onions

>>5714654
Oh look it's the fag who sperged out about dice palace in the last thread, got btfo, and now went right back to his same original posting as if it never happened

>>5715604
>got btfo
In your headcanon at least.