/vr/ - Retro Games

i grew up with nightmare in dreamland and loved it
i got the original version a couple years ago, its okay

Spoiler: its always bad

>>5709405
Almost as bad as Super Mario All Stars

>>5709405
Bottom right doesn't even make sense, because the platforms are supposed attached to trees, or are tree branches (see bottom left), but now they're just pieces of wood floating in the sky (???). Also the foreground tree leaves are still there even with the tree gone.

>>5709429
Yea I have no idea how this made it in the game. Having bad artists is one thing, but nobody else said a word before the game shipped

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>>5709446
Was there anymore for World 4-7?

>>5709597
Still have to make 4-6. But they aren't as bad as the others

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>>5709604
I'm not a Kirby player but I've seen very elaborate comparisons before. What makes they terrible comparisons, even if I agree "new = bad", is that they go into autistic rants about how the remake doesn't match the original, when the genuine issue is that the original was an NES game that had very simple and pleasant graphics, while the SNES remake has very complicated graphics that at times try to be photorealistic, but this makes them look terrible by comparison.

>>5709405
>Spoiler: its always bad
Pretty much.

>>5709604
It bothers me that the remake puts stars above every single door. Only the end of the level should have stars above the door.

All of these fucking comparisons drive me nuts. The goal of a remake is never to be as accurate as possible to the original you mongoloid fucks, if you want the original game and nothing else why are you even paying attention to remakes?

Y'all niggas are retarded if you don't realize the gba kirby was just preparing the engine for amazing mirror.

Y'all niggas are retarded if you don't realize the gba kirby was quickly put together in order to prepare an engine for amazing mirror.

>>5710578
Which is the real game they wanted to do all along. With 4 player connectivity and reused enemies and abilities from Adventure.

>>5709405
I am vomit.

>>5710557
The goal of a remake also shouldn't be to make clashing aesthetics and completely ignore what the original was going for.

>>5710557
The goal of a remake is to further flesh out the aritist's vision they originally had in mind but couldn't implement due to technical limitations. Removing a tree at the end of a Kirby stage but leaving the branches and leaves floating in mid air does not suit any better aesthetic purpose and honestly looks like a bug that they couldn't be bothered to fix.

>>5709801
>>5710557

The eyes highlighted and the Sonic is one of the most intensely autistic things I've ever seen. Imagine the amount of work and emotional investment he has in making these and soon you'll find them as funny as I do.

>>5710674
No its not. It's to flip an old product fir a quick buck to fund another project.

>>5710682
This. Exactly how many of these remakes ensured more games for their franchise?

>>5709801
64 DS is an abomination.

>>5709801
Did they also remove those smallcubes you can pickup and throw?

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>>5709442
People who make these are next level retarded

>>5711047
>tfw the final game in a franchise IS a remake/port

poor Ogre

>>5711138
imagine being this fucking autistic

>>5711140
t.lame 2d star

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>>5711138
Do these people know that nintendo hired different artists to work on these remakes? Are people so jaded that they think Kirbys forehead shine was "removed" just to fuck with them? Do people realize that these remakes were made for portable consoles for like $25 and shouldnt be taken serious? Seriously imagine meeting the autists that make these pics irl like holy shit imagine the first thing they would say

>>5710578
Not an excuse, they charged good money for it

>>5711229
$25-30?

>>5711229
You don't have to buy it lol

>>5709284
How does this compare to the original? Trying to decide which one I want to play. I'll be playing it by myself, so co-op isn't really a big issue for me.

>>5711527
Why not just try both via emulator and then invest in the one you like better?

>>5711151
Soulless poster.

>>5711527
New version is better BUT it also has a mondo sized password to enter if you want to continue. I used to own the gba but, something is off about that remake.

>>5710557
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>>5710682
The goal of a remake varies depending on who makes it, since not everyone returns for a remake.
Naturally, this means that remakes vary in terms of how and why they change things. Sometimes it's to flesh out what the original devs couldn't do. Other times it's to upgrade the aesthetics to a series' current style or modern looks. There are some that are practically passion products. And yes, there's also the "quick buck" mentality.
Still, there's a stark difference between what Super Mario All-Stars and Nightmare in Dream Land do compared to, say, Sonic Adventure DX or Evolution Worlds (to give 2 examples).

What are some remakes done right /vr/os? Pic related is easily one of the first that come to mind.

>>5709729
Readability is one of NiD's biggest problems, as you said. The jpg compression is making the GBA levels look far worse than they actually do, but there's some environmental features/effects that may be harder to read/judge due to the changes as well, like the Laser ability bouncing off angled surfaces. The extra detail makes some of those surfaces harder to notice.

Butter Building losing its 3D rotation effect on the GBA was utter bullshit though, especially because it should have been arguably easier to reproduce

>>5711527
Basically the same game but with more colorful sprites. It even has the same ridiculous password system

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>>5711138

>being this autistic

>>5709446
I did enjoy both, to be honest. But the golden tower part was really outrageous.

>>5709284
What about a remake of a remake?

Harvest Moon: Back to Nature turns into Mineral Town, turns into ... ?

Imagine growing up without an NES and never knowing about the stars in the caves

>>5709405
>the bottom pics
holy shit did they run out of time to make the assets for the tree or something?

>>5709801

64ds is a great remake, especially if you play it on 3ds

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>>5711151
I actually never liked the shine they added in Superstar. It wasn't there in Dream Land or Adventure and I think it looks wrong. I always saw Kirby as a marshmallow-like puff rather than a rubbery balloon.

>>5713830
>Soulles Nintendo Entertainment System
Lmao, imagine being this disperate

>>5712210
Re1 and re2 are great remakes.

>>5709284
They're always made by some studio's B team without any communication with the original developers. They end up making an abomination that loses all the charm and aesthetic style of the original.

>>5712523
Soulless trash.

>>5713830
I remember seeing all the graphical upgrades on All Stars after having an NES and being impressed and enjoying it mainly because you could save the game.

>>5709308
zoom zoom