/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 14th 23:00 GMT (extended one week)
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to help get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[07-01] Anon updates 'Demon CounterStrike' to fix Rocket Launcher spawns
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5701806/#5702668

[06-29] Anon map release: TESTINGGROUND.wad
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

[6-28] Masters of Doom to get a dramatized TV adaptation
https://www.pcgamer.com/james-and-dave-franco-are-producing-a-television-show-based-on-masters-of-doom/

[6-27] 'Vanilla Doom Plus', a monster variant randomizer balanced closer to vanilla
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vanilla-doom-plusmonster-randomizer-updated-june-25th40-added-monsters/

[6-22] /vr/ is hosting it's own Quake mapping project! GET IN HERE FAGETS

[6-20] Copper for Quake released: a vanilla+ mod (includes optional map pack)
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

[6-13] FUNC- Sm197 Six Textures released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61741

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

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Retoasting
Confess your sins anons
The first time I played Duke3D was when I was 14, when I used the High Resolution Polymer 3D pack, alongside titty mods and haven't played it since. Ion Maidens good tho

>>5706517
I've never completed DOOM II

>>5706509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dv6MEstMLw

So, how does brush count impact my map? How does nrush size? Should I make rather a new brush for ceiling and the floor above it or should I just have one thick brush and texture the faces differently?

>>5706517
i always vertical aim whenever possible in doom

What's the best way to play Doom on a current android smartphone?

No I'm not kidding

>>5706559
Delta Touch, but it costs money. Takes time to get used to though
I feel you anon, don't worry

>>5706517
I was 9 when I played Quake 1, which I got from a warez CD my father brought home. It was called something like "Best action games '97" or something, with one of Boris Valejo semi-naked fantasy babes on the cover.
I remember little of my first time playing it, but I do remember that I was swimming through a narrow underwater tunnel, which was a terrible experience since as a kid I was afraid of drowning (a result of my Granddad trying to teach me to swim via oldschol methods of throwing me off a boat). I resurfaced in a small room with a grunt, and I remember getting really terrified by that point, especially by his square head.
I turned the game off and, and spent few hours away from PC.
When I get back to it, I went back to playing Doom, Heretic and Duke (Doom and Heretic I had vbefore, Duke came on same warez CD)
I haven't played Quake 1again until 3 years later, and then I couldn't remember that same spot that scared me so much before.
Apparently that CD also had some shovelware-tier maps bundled with it, and I may have launched one of them via bat file or something.
That Quake 1 version also had a really weird sound mod that switched "HUH" for "HEE" and landing sound for "OOYA" or something like that, and swapped some other sounds. I didn't know it was modded at the time and assumed the game was weird like that.

>>5706559
>>5706560
Delta T costs like $2.
IIRC there also was some really janky alternative port of GZDoom to android, since Beloko opened his code.

>>5706560
Many thanks, that's affordable.

>>5706559
https://github.com/nvllsvm/GZDoom-Android/releases

>>5706517
The only Doom content I've completed on Ultra-Violence is the original three episodes

Is World Tour worth torrenting? If so can I just plug it into Eduke?

>>5706118
>>5706086
I always liked the Ubermutant a lot, because he's such a perfect example of that cartoony design emblematic of the original Wolfenstein 3D and Spear Of Destiny

>>5706559
With a gamepad attachment.

Holy fuck why is mapping in 3D so addicting? I immensely enjoy making mods for Doom, but not mapping, yet I have been up late the last few days tinkering with my HUH project and thinking about it all day, even at work. And now I am annoyed I promised attending a bbq (where I don't have anything to do for) because it means I won't be able to implement my ideas.

>>5706517
I pet the caco

>>5706637
Quake LAN BBQ, anon. Now's your chance! DM the fuck outta your maps.

>>5706595
Disgusting.

>>5706541
It literally doesn't matter, especially with modern compilers, engines and computers. None of the brushes you place exist in the compiled map. qbsp splits some of them into multiple polygons, combines others, and outright discards any faces outside the play area.

>>5706561
> I haven't played Quake 1again until 3 years later, and then I couldn't remember that same spot that scared me so much before.
Sounds like the moat leading to the megahealth secret in E1M1. Don't know if the grunt is there on easy/normal, though.

should I get quake's ost in .ogg or .flac? is there any noticeable difference if I am not an audiophile?

>>5706679
No, there is not, but .ogg is more widely supported by engines, IIRC. There's also something about de-emphasising the music or somesuch and there's a link to a pre-modified version in the OP somewhere.

>>5706669
No, that's the wrong place.
That underwater tunnel was very long, narrow and straight, covered in some sort of medium-bright greenish texture (I think it was bricks, but im not sure) with a small window to surface from, and was leading into a small very basic square room with a single grunt in it, and maybe some shells.

I played Quake a lot over the years and I'm 100% sure that place isn't anywhere in the original levels. Which lead me to a conclusion that I accidentally launched one of those early usermaps the warez version of Quake came packaged with.

Also It wasn't Vallejo, but Luis Royo image onn the cover of that warez CD . I'm 95% sure it was picrelated, but maybe it was some other of his babes with same pallet and style (which is like more than half of his work, but this looks closest to what I remember that I could find on basic google).
CD itself is lost to time obviously.
Other contents of the CD were: Final Doom, Duke, Witchaven 1 and 2, Heretic, Hexen, and some really stupid paintball game. There may also have been Blood in there since I remember playing it back then, but don't remember where I got it.

There definitely were some shovelware-tier levels for Duke and Quake.

>>5706693
make this level for huh

Advice for anyone about to play/replay Sigil - enable brightmaps and lights in GZDoom. I've just finished my second playthrough in GZDoom (first one was in PRBoom+) and it was greatly enhanced by the lighting. The largely dark/black areas in Sigil seem to be made for dynamic lighting, hell even the final boss fight looks cool.

>>5706721
No siree
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1133772409620881408?s=20

>>5706728
>https://twitter.com/romero/status/1133772409620881408?s=20
That tweet is for the retards who can't turn up the brightness. Dynamic lights look fine in Sigil, give them a try.

Has anyone here played AMC TC? That shit seems fucking insane

>>5706761
I was going to but then I ran through all of Adventures of Square instead. Soon.

>>5706517
I play with IDDQD. More fun.

What was the first 3D engine to have true (no teleport tricks, etc) room-over-room support? Did Marathon or System Shock have it?

>>5706819

>>5706768
I take it it's good? Could you describe it in a few words?

>>5706851
Would be best if you just do the first episode completely blind. Don't go expecting Doom or Duke. It's something of a unique experience. Don't want to spoil anything.
Maps get quite big so expect putting something like 50 minutes into the later ones.
You'll most likely love episode 2 if the first one caught your fancy.

I liked it a lot.

>>5706858
Thanks, guess I'll give it a try then.

>Have trenchbroom open
>Was doing great progress this weekend
>Just not feel like it right now
>Keep browsing here/do other stuff
>Trenchbroom is still open
>Start getting anxious
>Wonder if I should just play vidya to let off some steam or get back to work right now

I need to get my shit together

>>5706509
I finally finished Wolf3D all 6 episodes and I feel empty inside. What do I do now, go play Spear of Destiny?

>>5706819

>>5706869
Finish the thing and reward yourself with something nice once you're done.

What's your favorite Quake level theme?

>>5706885
superhot

why the fuck does gzdoom default to "Dark" sector lighitng, its awful, pic related is software vs the default "dark" in hedon

>>5706893
>lel bright
vs
>moody, atmospheric lighting

>>5706893
Set it to Doom.

lol

>>5706893
GZDoom's standard config is fucking aids, we've been over this already.

haha thicc :DDD epic waifu

>>5706919
huh, it even has big tiddy goth goblin girls

>>5706923
>guro

>>5706923
now thats a BRUH moment

Why the FUCK was the secret Wolf levels in DOOM so out of scale??

>>5706941
doomguy is a tiny baby tornado of fucking shit up compared to BJ's gigantic posture

>>5706517
I play every possible pwad with IDFA.
Not because I suck at the game, but because I enjoy imagining how offended it would make some of the le le le pixel art prodigy game design pseudo-intellectuals that makes these maps.

For example, the pleasure I had of taking a huge shit over Ancient Aliens's first level cyberdemon with a bfg and saying "fuck you" to anything Skillsaw believes is more pure and exciting than anything the wad was supposed to provide.

>>5706959
>I don't even like video games
Ok.

>>5706517
I am a zoomer, born with original sin.
The first versions of Doom I played were the GBA and 95 ports.

>>5706959
This, this is the true power of autism. I respect you anon

Absolute dogshit chapter.
>1% action
>99% platforming

>>5706713

>>5706919

>>5706885
Runic theme.

>>5706923
with huge horse dicks (author comissioned a lot of artwork with them)

>>5706980
I commented on that statue quite a few threads back. At first I thought that this is supposed to emulate "look from below" perspective, but then author fucked up and placed it on a pedestal that is easy to get to, but after tweaking around I realised that even if you correct the perspective, the proportions are still horribly fucked.

>>5706985
>invading into the realms of dark arts and black magic with shotgun and rocket launcher
good taste.

>>5706517
I enjoy videogames

>>5706913
thats what i said

>>5706885
The ones with the castles and the catacombs and the caves and the deep and murky waters.
So basically most of the game.

is there a mapset where the icon of sin spawns enemies from his mouth then his forehead?
also have it where he closes and opens it to make it harder to hit but there's still a chance to hit him?

>>5706882
thanks, term

>>5706959
I can safely assure you they don't give a single fuck

>>5706892
shit taste
>>5706985
decent
>>5707020
impeccable

>>5706517
I like every single doom game except 3. I fail to see the appeal. the shotgun is trash, gameplay is trash, the horror take is trash, every level is exactly the fucking same and despite there being only 20 at most it pads on til you're 56 and a kidney starts to fail. it sold well because it pulled a no man's sky with the launch trailer and made everyone believe it was an action game. but it was the videogame equivalent of zipping up and catching a ball hair.

>>5707049
Really? You just need to go on their threads and ask their map pack to be compatible with Brutal Doom and they already start crying and calling the mods.

>>5706517
Never finished a Doom game.
Finished a bunch of wads though.

>>5707059
oh fuck I'm retarded and didn't read correctly. whatever Doom 3 is aids and I got it off my chest.

>>5706959
see, this is how you come off as a proper idiot. more trolls could come up with stuff like this. if you're going to embarrass yourself at least bother with a humorous approach.

>>5706713

>>5707062
>looks like they're part of the large audience that dislikes brutal doom >:(
>I know I'll play all their maps with cheats on!!! haha that'll show 'em

>>5706619
Agreed. He’s proud more goofy looking than Mecha Hitler.

My Quake map is gonna have ugly flat misaligned idbase walls because I'm this close to hanging myself and becauae I'm not creative enough to do cool things with idbase, and I'm just gonna put a sign that says "good enuff for id1."

>>5706878
Play Spear of Destiny. Then you’re free to check out all the other fanmade Wolf3D games. Like Castle Totenkopf, Wolf and Spear Reloaded, Spear Revisited, and Spear: End of Destiny.

>>5707080
>tfw I decided to make a runic level instead
feels gud

>>5706976
>>5707071
Neat.

>>5706976
Scrunched face and kissy lips. Man, wearing the same helmet for 23 years really fucks a man up.

>>5707080
why not some sort of corrupted idbase?
have fun with slipgate fuckery

>>5707090
I should have known better but it's too late to go back.

>>5707026
I don't think so, but I think it could probably be done, and it would probably be pretty cool.

You'd likely need some kind of actual scripting (so GzDoom) or something to line up his mouth opening with shooting the spawn cubes (or outright just write a script from scratch for spawning cubes and what not).

>>5707096
But he hasn’t worn that since his college days.

>>5706959
So you do something to spite strangers who don't even know you're doing it and probably don't care very much?

>>5706510
Quake Speedmapping Pack 198: 768 ^ 2
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61748

>>5707106
Not that helmet, anon.

>>5707112
If I see a single one of those names in HUH I'm gonna smack a bitch.

>>5707116
>Snack Base
>My House but Bigger
>Damp Cave 3
>HUH HUH HUH
My expectations.

>>5707071
Cool thanks!

>>5707121
>Snack Base
What's this supposed to mean?

>>5707121
>implying myhouse.bsp isn't the height of anyone's mapping career and everything afterwards isn't just a downward- if not better received- spiral into visually overappealing vom

>>5707121
I have two ideas for names for my map, one is "Entombed" because you start in a little tomb, and the other is "Escape from Help Stupid" because I think the name sounds really funny.

>mfw MyHouse.wad is bigger than YourHouse.bsp

>>5707139
because you included the entirety of doom 2 in your wad like a dunce

Ranger’s starting costume in QC gives him a mask and head light for his helmet.

>>5706959
>but because I enjoy imagining how offended it would make some of the le le le pixel art prodigy game design pseudo-intellectuals that makes these maps.
I can only hope to one day reach this level of petty self-sabotage. This is inspiring.

>>5707131
It means that people like both food and tech bases. Inspiration close at hand.

>>5707140
you're just mad cuz you don't get to live in the focus. maximum comfy.

>>5707142
Honestly, Shub-Niggurath and her cronies would have had a lot easier time conquering far off dimensions if they just pumped poison gas through a bunch of slipgates and then popped in after a while.

>>5707153
Excellent sideburns, Ranger.

>>5706509
32X DOOM uses the 6-button genesis controllers mode button for cheats.

>>5707150
Where’s the fun in that?

>>5707153
>Rager

>>5707153
He looks like he just got back from Rage 1.

>>5706509
Come on, ChillyWilly, I believe that you can add the missing levels into 32X Doom!

>>5707142

>>5707153
I appreciate them making ranged stubbier and more muscular than doomguy.

>>5706509
Can the slipgates allow for time travel along with the typical hopping through the dimensions of the universe?

>>5707187
It’s possible.

Daily reminder.

>tfw no FPS game comes close to having an enemy roster as finely tuned as Dooms

>>5707192
Okay then. Perhaps this is the reason for at least some cases, the enforcers and shotgunners you encounter in the Quake 1 and the Scourge of Armagon expansion are hostile to Ranger; some of the levels in Episodes 2, 3, and the first of EP4 take place not in another part of the universe, but rather he's traveled to another time, probably into the past where he either hadn't become a Marine yet or just recently got recruited, and thus the enforcers and other human personnel in levels like the beginning of EP4 see you as an intruder. Though of course some have been influenced by Shub.

>>5707116
why tho?
no doubt a bunch of anons went to the dwellings of the Quack wizards to learn their ways, I would not be annoyed in the least if one or two contributed

>>5707207
I can see that.

Okay, I have an issue. I am implementing a rocket jump opportunity for sequence breaking. Now I am unsure as how to design that spot. The basic idea is to have a drop at the beginning that you can rocket jump up to skip a later part of the level. The two possibilities I have devised are:

A) A section of the railing is missing. You immediately understand you have to drop down there, but you also might remember this and try a rocket jump back up.

OR

B) There are doors that obviously lead to a staircase or something so you know they are connected. As the upper door won't open properly you can only jump over the railing, but might remember that spot and try a rocket jump back up.

I am really not sure which one is better. Also note that this is just a quick mockup and of course it will look better in the finished map.

>>5707219
The one with the missing fence, it's not offensively obvious if that's what's bugging you...

Anyone has the whole set of those?

>>5707225
Really? I actually thought the missing fence was the more obvious one.

>>5707231
I mean, the one without that section of the fence.

>>5707231
Turn the lights down on the missing part

Is ZBlood worth checking out? I know it’s not really accurate, but is it any good as its own thing?

>>5707239
So you mean the one with the missing piece of fence is the less obvious one?

>>5707219
>>5707242
Make the area darker than others. 2 lams above the bridge. Between them, where their light does not illumninate the area, a section of a railing is broken, with a diagonal crack instead of straight cut, and pieces of railing on the ground below.

>>5707247
The one with the missing piece is more obvious but not as much as to be offensive for the player.

>>5706976
Fun fact for those not in the know. Miskatonic University comes from numerous H.P. Lovecraft stories

>>5707251
Ohh, I understand.

>>5707250
>>5707242
That with the lighting is a good idea. And as I said, this was a mockup. The finished thing would have been "organically" broken with scattered pieces and such.

Thanks, I will go with the broken fence option then.

Hey Duke heads, I'm looking for a Smooth Doom/light graphical refinement, how is Cosmetic Duke? I'm not too well-versed in Duke modding

Pushing block puzzles in Doom, are they possible?

Are there any WAD generation tools for vanilla Doom2 that are browser based?

If not, are there any that work on linux?

>>5707281
Golden souls 2 did it.

>>5706517
Played the Ultimate Doom all the way through several times, never Doom 2 or Final (TNT & Plut)

>>5707059
I enjoy Doom 3 for what it is, the story is decent and the later levels going through the Martian ruins was pretty fucking cool.

ITT we rank the top 5 retro fps:

1.The Ultimate Doom
2.Doom 2
3.Quake
4.Douk
5.Final Doom

>>5707290
Where are the Turoks?

>>5707291
Fuck Turoks.

>>5707290
>doom in 3 of the 5 spots
play more fps

>>5707290
>Final Doom
Fucking no. Play more games.

>>5706517
First time I played Duke3D I downloaded it off some Brazilian site and it apparently came with some titty mods installed so for years I thought the babes in Duke were originally topless

>>5707304
Played most of them. Blood was bad, fuck niggie.

>>5707305
Why? Plutonia was actually good.

>>5707308
>Blood was bad
>Plutonia was good
Jesus Christ

>>5707313
>Blood was bad
What's wrong with this? It's average at most, kek. Since civvie started to shill for it, it wasn't even such a big subject in this thread

>>5707296
>>5707308
good games, poor list

>>5707109
>spite strangers who don't even know you're doing it
Neither does a cuckold
>probably don't care very much?
that's where you're wrong

I have this body of ideas that I want to put into a project but I need some help organizing them. I know ideas are worth jack shit so I'll just dump some here in the hopes that someone picks them up or help me shape it into a feasible project.

The first idea is a Wolfenstein 3D-like mod set in Feudal Japan,more specifically in Kyoto, where the city has been overtaken by yokai (weeaboo demons just like my Japanese animays) coming straight from HELL. The idea is to have period weapons and survival-like mechanics, like avoiding conflict and narrow corridors.

The other idea is "Doom Guy meets Time Squad", where Doomguy visits all the wonders of the ancient world in their glory demon days. The idea is not to have so much combat but focus on platforming and stage hazards. I'd also like the stages to be huge single-maps with puzzles that unlock the boss room.

And... That's about it for now. I don't know how solid of ideas these are but I'm wishing to pick one and go with it.

Just a reminder.
>>5705612

>want to play AlienTC for historical purposes
>can't find a single copy of DOOM v1.666 whose download link isn't dead
I can find a million links for v1.9 but why does nobody have the older versions?

>>5707342
http://iddqd.ru/old?page=3&type=&showed=10&auth=all

>>5707347
God bless Mother Russia. Thanks anon.

>>5706509

Is it possible to make brushes transparent in Trenchbroom? I want to make windows, but I don't know how to approach that.

>>5707363
>Not Duke
Eh

>>5707342
There is a version that works with Ultimate Doom, you know.

>>5707370
They already got 1 lawsuit.

>>5707376
Oh, right. Randy's an asshole. I forgot.

>>5707369
add the key alpha and a desired value between 0 and 1

>>5707369
Make the brush a func_wall, then add a key/value pair of 'alpha' (no quotes) and a value of between 0 and 1.

>>5707385
>>5707386
fucking A, that worked, thanks. Is there a list of keys that are not present in the drop down menu when you start entering a key? For "a" it only gives me the "angle" key.

>>5707219
Both.

>>5707382
How could you forget?

>>5707360
Next Voyager should have a copy of Doom source code desu

>>5707390
http://ericwa.github.io/ericw-tools/
This lists all the extra stuff that ericw's compiling tools can do. "_minlight" in particular I find really helpful for improving the lighting of moving objects.

>>5707401
I tell myself that the boogeyman isn't real. Helps me sleep at night.

>>5707376
Wait are you telling me Randy tried to sue 3DR for trying to get Jon on for a game once?

>>5707409
nice, thanks.

>>5707418
I'm absolutely certain Randy would be a faggot if 3DR tried to get the Duke character into IM.

Newfag here. Have been working with GZDoom Builder for probably a total of only 36 hours or so. Was wondering if this would be a good place to ask for tips or help.

I swear tutorials are never in-depth enough to cover any of this. I've spent hours trying to get simple ACS to work, and I've so far been unable to find a tutorial on actually exporting my wad as a final product.

I'm tired of looking up how to do something and getting thread answers like "oh you know"

>>5707431
They had a cameo of him in the demo where you can see his outfit, and Shelly asking where that big lug is.

>>5707440
If you are just making a map without additional resources or anything, the wad will contain all the scripts and everything. If you want to include custom resources, like textures or sounds or anything, you will have to make a .pk3 (zip file) and include the map as its own folder along with the other resources. zdoom wiki actually has a pretty nice article on that.

>>5707418
They sued 3DR for trying to make a Duke game. Which ended up becoming Bombshell.
In a way maybe that was for the best for Duke's legacy...

>>5707315
are you fucking retarded

>>5707441
An outfit is different from a voiced role.

If that guy who wanted to play Blood is still around I figured out how to do multiplayer

>>5706832
Whatever it is that Descent used

Why does Linear Doom allow turning and strafing? GRRRR I AM ANGRY

>>5707446
Thank you anon.

Does anyone play coop?
That's what got me into this, was to play coop with my friends, but it seems like nobody makes wads with that in mind.

>>5707480
i think the memento mori series was made with coop in mind

>>5707253
Maybe Ranger was chosen in part for Operation Counterstrike because he was a Miskatonic alumnus.

Is there any way to make a func_door not open when approaching it (because it's behind a barrier), but only after a certain trigger has been activated? I only manage to make it a target and let it activate, but it will only activate once and then the door is dead because its targetname isn't targeted by anything anymore.

Does he wanna ZeniMax to cease&desist Smooth Doom and Freedoom???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRpo942LIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1BsQRwR4Q0

>>5707497
Kill yourself.

>>5707497
Is this even legal?

>>5707494
why not make it key locked?

>>5707514
Because I already need the key for other stuff. I am already on a network of relays for that kinda shit.

>>5707494
Why not use spawnflag Toggle? I'm not sure if you can use func_plat as a door which does what you want.

You fucking hypocrites
>Claim to hate Brutal Doom because "muh bloat"
>Claim to like Project Brutality more
>Project Brutality is just Brutal Doom but with MORE FUCKING SHIT
Why are you like this, you fucking boomer elitists
Answer

>>5707525
I have no idea how to use Toggle, but I set it and it didn't change anything. I don't want the door to be open when first encountering it and I don't want it open when it's actually passable.

Is there a way in blood fresh supply to show the kill count and secret count during the level. It was in blood gdx and it was quite nice.

>>5707518
use the other key, or another key

>>5707540
I am already using all the keys, that is the problem. I am basically porting a map I made for Doom 2 and I forgot about keys being single use only, so that rather complicated my whole approach.

>>5707158
Sideburns suit him, actually.

>>5707537
Use func_plat as a door then
>If the plat is the target of another trigger or button, it will start out disabled in the extended position until it is trigger, when it will lower and become a normal plat

>>5707541
>I am basically porting a map I made for Doom 2
romero wouldn't like that

>>5707534
i never said any of those, so you can cry up your mum's asshole

>>5707545
Too bad he lost the rest of his hair.

>>5707243
It's a little bit fun, because it tries to imitate Blood, and some of its cool and fun mechanics, but putting it next to Blood proper, it just pales terribly.

>>5707059
Doom 3 is the ultimate pleb filter.

>>5707564
That's just the testosterone.

>>5707581
The Chainsaw excuses a lot of Doom 3's flaws I think.

>>5707534
Not me though. I think brutaldewm is good for what it is but project brutality sucks. It has cool guns but makes everything else worse and you cant shoot the dead bodies so it loses its purpose as a brutaldewm mod. sgt mark 4 is an asshat but thats been the case for years but hes really not that bad as a mod author. Mods based off brutaldewm tend to miss the point of doom even harder than mark did. thats my shit take

>>5706509
How do you install the expansions for Half-Life (Blue Shift and Opposing Force)?

I'm using the WON version with a widescreen patch.

>>5707581
yeah, it's not the ultimate doom that's for sure

>>5707534
I never said that.

Is singleplayer Quake any gud or is it all about multiplayer?

>>5707534
You got 3 answers. now give your response

>>5707614
it's so bad that we're having a mapping event for it right now

>>5707607
dont they have exes once you download and extract the ISOs?

>>5707534
accusations of hypocrisy work better on individuals than collectives
specially if those are formed by anonymous users

>>5707614
Its good and the mission packs are also good. Not that different from doom but good

>>5707581
half the enemy roster was a simple melee enemy

>>5707619
Goddamn, who drew that? That's the best rendition of a shambler I've seen.

>>5707649
I forgot where I saved it from. A reverse search might help.

>>5707619
Do not feed the hungry muscle yeti any more batteries.

I'm putting 3 (three) shamlers in my map and no one will stop me

>>5707673
Could be worse.

>>5707673
I’m going to dance with them all and you can’t stop me

>>5707673
Add three more actually.

>>5707673
How cute. I'm putting traps in a narrow underwater section.

>>5707686
That's small time. I'm intentionally including rotfish just so the player can never get 100% kills.

i wonder how the tentacles mechanic in eternal would work in the context of a doom gameplay mod

>>5707673
there are 7 shamblers in Shub Niggurath's Pit, and that's on normal

>>5707697
A demon with longer melee range but it can't move. How exciting.

>>5707690
You're sick.

>Ion Maiden spoiler

>>5707678
4 (four) shamblers

>>5707719
I've got more ammo than that.

>>5707697
probably some sort of slapping hazard

>>5707720
don't make me do five

>>5707690
Devilish

>>5707591
Also, Doom 3's plasma rifle sounds better than in 2016 Doom

>>5707553
Thanks, but I decided I will leave it like that, because I noticed I placed a button right where one can see it through the barrier when the door opens and I like that.

btw, I have finally managed to (hopefully) finalize the room layout.
Check it out if you want. Note that I haven't done any lighting, enemies, room decoration or whatever. Secrets and buttons are also not necessarily final.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eazle5weub9bnf0/q1_technotomb.zip?dl=0

>>5707757
Doom 2016's plasma rifle is just generally flaccid and shitty, it looks a lot better in Eternal. I don't think it'll ever replace the archvile-melting original plasma rifle.

>>5707614
Quake 1 is a single-player game. Quake 2 is as well, though the multiplayer was arguably better anyway (though there's no one to play multiplayer Quake 2 with anymore, so it's effectively just a single-player game now). Quake 3 is the one that was multiplayer focused.

Seriously, Quake 1 is one of the best FPSes ever.

>>5707764
it has good damage output as well. so it's no longer the insultingly weak piece of trash it once was.

>>5707780
How can you tell about DOOM ETERNAL's plasma rifle if its not coming out until late November? Is there any demo?

>>5707794
A select few people got to play eternal at quakecon or e3, he may be one of them

I cannot stop playing teef
I have shit to do god damn you

>>5707673
ok but

how many vores and spawns

What happened to Colorfull Hell?

>>5707835
got an update recently, what do you mean?

>Summer vacations 2012
>At my best friend's house
>We play skulltag delta invasion over direct ethernet on our two shitty p4 laptops
>We farmed the shit out of this game for an entire week, all day longs
>mfw I will never experience that again
I want to go back guys...

>>5707835
Maybe check the thread for news?

>>5706517
I don't like Doom 1 except for KDitD
I used IDDQD to beat the last level of Ancient Aliens, the very last room is what broke me.

>>5707861
Shut up Zoomer. Feel bad you'll never get to experience great times such as lan parties on Battlefield 1942

>>5707890
Well I did have lan parties on Battlefield vietnam (the first one, not bfbc2: vietnam) back in my highschool computer club with my friends back in the day and it was amazing. While it's not 1942 it's a very similar game. I also have somewhere a video of ppl from my class playing a deathmatch game on dwango.wad on chocolate doom in the computer club room, if I find it I'll be sure to post it here

>>5707757
Yeah, it sounds more potent.
I think Doom 4's plasmarifle looks real cool, but it just needs a stronger bark.
The pews are too soft and low volume, they should be sharper and louder, with a subtle BANG going with them.

>>5707861
Old Skulltag play sessions were really fun.
I still remember the week-long SNS with Samsara on Alpha/Delta Invasion.

>>5707764
I do prefer the classic take on the Plasma, where it's a high tier weapon true and proper.
You can carry lots of shots, each hit is pretty decent in damage, and combined with the high rate of fire the damage output is excellent.
Shame it's so overshadowed by the BFG, I feel like people will prioritize the ammo for it and abandon the plasma.

>>5707915
Also the way enemies explode and fly into the stratosphere when they die from the Eternal plasma rifle is pretty cool, it makes it so much more satisfying.

You wanna know who Doomguy's related to, right?
http://legacy.3drealms.com/fanstuff/keenstory/index.html

>>5707461
Why are you the only one always tripfagging in here? Post on Doomworld if you want to "establish" a "reputation".

>>5707581
Hating on Doom 3 instantly outs you as a zoomer that should be playing Fortnite instead.

do any other fps games have wikis as good as dooms?

>>5707958
Yes

I hate gill beasts soooooo much

>>5707958
>>5707960
aren't they free to contribute?

>>5707965
caleb_screaming.mp3

>>5707757
Everything in Doom 3 looks better, people don't like it just because it is dark and slow.

>>5707968
https://youtu.be/FsynSgeo_Uo

>>5707965
Can’t you get them onto land where they become incredibly slow?

Having just played through episode 2 of Wolfenstein 3D, I think the push wall maze on floorl 8 might have been a little excessive.

>>5707534
>people who like BD and don't see anything wrong with bloat recomend PB as a better BD with more stuff
who would've thought
>people who dislike BD, citing bloat as one of the reasons don't care about PB at all, and don't even mention it in BD discussions, as something obvious not worth mentioning
whoop de doo

the moral of the story: you are a retarded and think those two categories are same people

>>5707716
would look terrible if done via single sprite.

>>5707972
>Everything in Doom 3 looks better
Except for shotgun, pistol, and most of the models for the in-game characters, particularly the humans. Seriously, the human characters in Doom 3 looks a tad dated.

Why people think of linear gameplay as something bad? While idtech 1 supports the unlinear style of mapping, the true canonic style adventures like Sigil or NRFTL end up being mostly linear adventures with a proper flow and progression, while user wads always end being just chores in some randomly generated maze style mapping.

This is the single biggest flaw with usermade wads. They are just circling around, and you rarely move forward from A to B (or just very slowly or unsatisfyingly). Sometimes the key you get is just an excuse for more backtracking, and buttons rarely show the way out. Also different levels tend to look like samey, which also removes a lot from the progression feel. Usermade wads end up losing their welcome midway through is the end result of this.

Levels should be tight, shouldn't overstay their welcome, and unlinearity should be just used smartly, likes crossing a previous area from a different angle for example, or seeing it from a window or a 3D style hight elevation.

>>5707998
no, you drop down a long way into the water

>>5706560
its the only android game i've seen that supports gamepads and doesn't handle them flawlessly. using both my shitty chinese bluetooth controller and wireless xbone elite one there is still a delay when aiming left and right. Minecraft and emulators don't have this issue, neither does markv when i play quake on the same phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKG2ZQiq3c

Well now.

I just made it through Episodes 1, 2, 3 of the Ultimate Doom with Hideous Destructor.

I have to say, the ending was a bit anticlimatic, because the spider mastermind went down to three brontornis shots and that was that. Didn't even get to use the BFG or the fuckton of stuff I was hoarding. Felt like I saved all the good stuff for the end and then I didn't even get to use it. But I guess that's on me. And also because I just finished the equivalent of Babby's Hideous Bootcamp.

What's next for my HD career?

any cool recent wads I could play in Crispy?
besides REKKR

>>5708061
create a set of webms next time so you can convince more people to try kineous destructo, try alien vendetta next

>>5708061
Doesn't HD work better with Doom2?

>>5708080
>try alien vendetta next
You're fucking nuts man, I'm not Eric

Guncaster but for DN3D and Blood.

>>5708085
It’s got more “content” in it, but no, 2 is nigh impossible to beat

>>5708094
What do you mean? I thought HD preferred Doom2.

>>5708101
https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor/wiki/Maps

he actually only recommends one more map in doom 2, but the mad lad did all 3 episodes

>>5708109
>mad lad did all 3 episodes
That's not really impressive, is it? I thought it was supposed to be babby's HD bootcamp.

>>5708061
DTWID

>>5708109
>>5708116
The Doom 1 and 2 recommendations there are old as fuck, from Matt himself. The mod has become far friendlier since then and the playerbase has gotten better at it, too. UV might be excessive for a first-timer that hasn't met the Doom 2 monsters yet, but even back then all 32 maps were doable on HMP.

>>5708119
I've been playing on Ultraviolence (Hideous) difficulty since I picked the mod up, I haven't messed with the other difficulties like Grotesque (HMP), Grimdark or Spooky yet.

But yeah your point makes sense. Looking at those map recommendations, they seem very outdated. They probably were accurate a long time ago, but at least for now the whole of Doom 1 felt very playable for me. I didn't try E4 or Sigil though, I guess that's a whole nother story.

>>5708123
E4 is a bitch mainly because of E4M3. It's insanely hard to even establish a foothold there.

>>5708123
>>5708119
>>5708094
Anyway, I think I'll follow up with Doom 2 on Hideous difficulty and see how far I can make it before I come back with my tail tucked under my legs.

I'm guessing it might be at Dead Simple, but that might be doable with some berserk shenanigans, we'll see.

>>5708127
Dear god
Also pls show me dat Dogfighter Mk2 loadout, senpai

So I made a quick, small, and simple sound replacement mod for the player pain and death sounds and I wanted to share it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebnycgfuh3ye7y7/gachigasms2.wad?dl=0

It works fine on my end but last time I uploaded an earlier version (which used mp3 files) long ago another player who tried using it got nothing but white noise.

I converted the files to an uncompressed 8-bit format then used Slade to turn them into Doom format files, please let me know if it actually works this time.

>>5708116
hell on earth starter pack is easier than doom 1 in hideous, doom 2 is harder because of archvile niggery. I haven't updated my destructor since the end of 2016 though so if people say it got made easier it probably is.

>>5708132
This is how I've got it set up right now. It can't kill bosses like the Bronto-toting original, but the launcher is more generally applicable and I used the saved weight to carry a frag and some more stimpacks while still staying within 400 blocks.

>>5708143
Do you really find the extra stim that useful, or is that just because there was nothing else that would fit within the weight restriction?

I ask because I've found stims and medpacks to be way way way way abundant in HD. Like, I've never found myself in a situation (that I can remember) where I was like "Damn, I wish I had an extra medkit/stim right now" since they're everywhere. I usually only carry one medkit, open it when I'm injured, use up the extra goodies like bloodbag/stim, and then just dump the used kit in favor of a new one.

But maybe that's because I've been playing the babby wads?

Also, are stims better used to slow down bleeding, or do you also liberally use them to perform better in combat while injured?

Extra crispy dark god...

>>5706517
I don't think I've played unmodded Doom for years now, I played it that way when I was a kid for so long it got boring to me.

>>5708150
Deep Fried Tchernobog
Blood on Extra Crispy completed

>>5708176
Did you do the expansion too?

>>5708147
Stims are really good. Pop one before starting combat, then you'll be alive to patch yourself up afterwards. When you get those unlucky hits that ignore armor and fuck you up with a ton of wounds, use the stim first so you don't go into incap before you finish stapling. It's also best to use a stim right before using a berserk pack, it greatly improves your chances of survival during comedown. There's no downside to stimpacks besides the possibility of overdosing, so use them liberally.

Ok anons, its that time again:
-your personal top 10 wads (in no particular order)
-how that list has changed over time

I cant start because Ribbiks is my favorite mapper and it would be Sunlust repeated over and over

>>5706980
Looks like one of those dragon didlos

Does Unreal Gold get any better? I'm at the part right after you get the rocket launcher and it just doesn't feel that great besides the comfy atmosphere. I feel like I'm playing a shittier Metroud Prime.

>>5708205
-deus vult II
-alien vendetta
-epic 2
-xmas nightmare
-zero invasion
-high noon drifter
-simons destiny
-nightmare maze(the spaceship one)
-shotgun frenzy
-uac ultra

I used to fucking hate most of these map packs as i was a vanilla autist before, but as I started playing with friends and actually played more different games I started to like them a lot more. I now prefer shit like alfonzone and joy of mapping because i have more fun when people don't follow traditional mapmaking rules.

>>5708069
you could play Sigil its hands down the best WAD ever created
REKKR was really gay and created by furries but Sigil is the REAL episode 5 created by John Romero himself.
It's epic it has cool music and Baphomet is awesome.
Buy it.

>>5708224
i thought it was just hedon tainted by degeneracy, whats the story behind rekkr?

>>5708224
You know you can make your own music addons, right?

>>5708197
>There's no downside to stimpacks besides the possibility of overdosing, so use them liberally.
So basically the lesson HD teaches us is that being on drugs at all times is the optimal combat strategy

>>5708235
That's what the military teaches you, anon.

>>5708184
ˢᵉᶜᵗᵒʳ ᵗᵒᶦˡᵉᵗ

>>5708227
ignore this troll
he's been on his Sigil tirade since it was announced
REKKRs fine

>>5707930
I feel like doom2 would have improved significantly if every weapon now had their own dedicated ammo types. I can't think of any game but Doom2 that has such a close to perfect weapon and monster synergy, but it suffers thanks to the BFG and SSG completely outclassing their predecessors.

>>5708227
Yeah ignore that retard, Hedon is the degeneracy project. Gameplay isn't very good either.
REKKR was made by one crazy son of a bitch who decided to make a TC that's Chocolate doom compatible.

>>5708278
Actually it's not even a TC, it's pretty much a standalone IWAD, if memory serves right.

>>5708265
How do I type in small and type triforce?

>>5708274
What game is that? WW2GI? Witchraven2?

>>5708274
I'd say the SSG is the only real problem. The BFG isn't so generally applicable like the plasma rifle. It's gotten into the heads of a lot of people that because the BFG is better on paper, it's always the better choice. But then those people double-fuck themselves because they only pull out the BFG to toast bosses or really large groups and never use their cell ammo for anything that wouldn't take full advantage of the spray. Any situation where you wouldn't want the BFG, the plasma rifle is almost certainly your best choice.

>>5708224
Is that you, Brenda? John?

Is the Classic Redux version of Shadow Warrior fine or is it imperative that I play on DOSBox? I have both but have never played either one.

>>5706893
because >graf

>>5707861
>summer 2009
>playing GvH on Skulltag
good memories

>>5706517
Like most things, I tend to collect wads but never play them--paralyzed by choice and the consequences of commitment.
I also want to fuck Cookie.

Are there any flashlight mods that are not jittery messes?

Are the Marathon games actually worth playing?

>>5708410
I like DarkDoomZ's flashlight.
In fact I turn off the main DarkDoomZ stuff just to have the flashlight.

Select "Head-mounted", "LED" and you're good to go.

>>5708290
Duke64
>>5708293
Yes, but as you've said so yourself that the player isn't going to be crunching the numbers as to why the plasma rifle is better in certain situations. Players will unfortunately consider the plasma rifle a leech gun in the same way the pistol and to some extent the shotgun is. The BFG is a powerful weapon that can kill a cyberdemon in 2-4 hits if I remember correctly, and when a player sees this they will most likely avoid using it and the plasma rifle in an attempt to hoard precious plasma ammo for such occasions. Simply separating the BFG from the ammo pool is just an easy way to make the other weapons more useful, even the pistol should you do the same for the chaingun.

I'll admit though that the biggest problem is the SSG, however, I also believe some ammo changes could fix that as well.

>>5708330
Good luck finding a source port

>>5708453
Oh yes, that worked very well. Thanks.

>>5707760
Polite bump for feedback. It's really just about the general layout and the progression. I have one sequence break in there, but maybe people will find more.

>>5706517
After my initial playthrough and re-playthrough of Doom 1 and 2, I've stuck with vertical aim enabled and a dot crosshair. Also I enjoy Project Brutality after deleting Doomguy's voicelines.

>>5708445
Mostly just for the reading
The terminals are compelling
The shooting is pretty good but the map and art design for the textures can be all over the place

>>5707760
it's possible to jump past the acid that blocks off the RL and gold key, and save a silver key
it's really fucking hard in most ports (or I just suck at building speed quickly), but it's easy in a port with quakeworld physics (like ezquake or FTEQW)

Why is Quakes 2 level design so shit compared to Quakes?

>DUDE BOXES EVERYWHERE LMAO!

Quake 1 every room you enter looks and feels different, they switch up the style of most larger rooms architecture. Go into any room in Quake and look at the ceiling. It's a different design every time. Quake 2 is just the same generic sci fi storage base with boxes. Fucking. Everywhere.

>>5707760
>>5707537
Do you know how to use Trigger brushes? You make a normal cube brush and put the "trigger" texture over it. So when the player walks through it (it's invisible I'm game) it triggers anything you want. Doors opening, enemies spawning etc.

>>5708678
> dude -| gripe|- lmao!
opinion discarded

MODS ARE ASLEEP
POST FIREBLU

>>5708706
>This kills the streamer

>>5708274
I disagree honestly. The BFG is a completely different tool from the plasma rifle and I think a lot of players completely sleep on just how GOOD the plasma actually is because they want to save their ammo for the BFG (the way to fix that is for more people to pistol start maps), and while the SSG is objectively a better DPS than the shotgun, the shotgun has its advantages; it has a higher rate of fire, so you can deal with shit like a wave of enemies coming around a corner (if there's a shotgunner/chaingunner there, and you're still going through the reload animation, you have no way of stopping them from firing at you while you're vulnerable), and the shotgun's tighter cone makes it useful at longer distances than the SSG. It's situational but shouldn't be ignored just because you have the SSG>

>>5707283
Using a Windows virtual machine to generate maps probably is the most simplistic solution, unless you want to dick around with Wine for a while.

>>5707306
To be fair, some of them legitimately are.

>>5708669
A well fuck, I can RJ over that, but since you will only get thr RL after crossing the acid I didn't think much of it. Welp, have to make the thing bigger or put clipping brushes there.
What kind of distance can you jump at max?

>>5708445
yes. marathon has my favourite atmosphere in a retro fps

>>5708758
an extra 64 units would make it pretty much impossible to clear in any non-quakeworld port (the max speed you're hitting with just bunnyhopping is around 600ups), and quakeworld ports are used for multiplayer so who cares about them

>>5708771
Thanks, will do that.

>>5708716
I do find the regular Shotgun quite dependable for ranged combat, I can shoot at cacos off in the sky, I can take shots at imps in windows, I can make solid hits on rows of enemies at a distance.
It doesn't have the absolute kaboom punch of the SSG even at point blank, but I think the range and speed absolutely makes up for that.

I actually find myself saving the cell ammo for the BFG a lot, however, because I have that idea in my head about its mileage, but then when I do find myself forced to use the Plasma Rifle, I remember what an absolute powerhouse that weapon is, and I enjoy it a lot.

>>5707534
I like neither.

HUH

>>5708729
based

>>5708860
i dont get it

>>5708906
Ranger as The Keeper from The Evil Within. Not sure why though.

>>5708860
Post real Quake. Not pretender Quake.

>>5708910

I must say, I'm quite happy how Amid Evil turned out.
It combines the best aspects of my favourite games:
Fantasy themes and weapons of Heretic
Level design sensibilities of Quake usermaps
Visual feast and colorfulness of Unreal

I really wish that it inspires other indie shooter devs to follow similar path, or even better get Amid Evil 2.

>can't compare old games to new games
what has this board come to

This got an update.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=32628

>>5708921
epic filename by broski
fuck you you crashed my iphone
asshole

>>5708945
Go to /v/

>>5708945
you need to go to /v/ for that

>>5708961
>iphone
serves you right

>>5708224
People should look at Sigil and learn how to make proper levels.

>>5708981
seething pajeet

>>5709004
yes good goy

>>5709007
iphone users earn and fuck more than androshitters

>>5709008
௵

>>5709008
௵

Seriously now, between DOOM games, is ULTIMATE DOOM the best one? I honestly liked it more than 2, it also has some nice wads.

>>5709020
>>5709024
have sex

>>5709037
జ్ఞ

gotta say when romero announced he was making another wad i did not anticipate some autistic weirdo deciding that sigil is somehow the only good doom wad ever made

>>5709068
especially with how shit it is

How can I get rid of the wind noise when adding a sky to my Quake map?

>>5709030
For me at the moment:
Ultimate Doom > DTWID > NEIS > SIGIL
Still looking for something bettter

>>5709118
Ofc vanilla was better than DTWID and the others, but I was talking from a vanilla stand point, I feel like Ultimate Doom >>>>> all dooms.

If anyone wants a cool TEK wallpaper, here.

>>5707764
what computer is that?

>>5709142
It's nice, I saved it.

>>5709142
Ah, you composited and tiled the techy parts from the logo?
Looks kinda neat, could probably be used for something actually.

What's up, Dukefags?
How come you never talk about mods?

>>5709229
mods are fags
oh wait did you mean for the game?

anyone got that HUEG mega folder of selected wads anon uploaded a while ago?

>>5709237
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/99896-complete-idgames-archive-downloads/

Don't know what are you talking about but take a look at the full archive if you want to play some foken doom senpai.

>>5709235
Oh you

>>5709237
If you mean mine, it's the second MEGA link in the OP.

If you just want the map WADs, they're here

https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA!719X3SgL

>played ETS2 all day instead of working on my Quake map
How is driving a virtual truck so fucking addicting?

Anyway, I've seen people use some "skip" textures for liquids. What are those good for and where can I get them if necessary?

>>5709285
>ETS2
German detected.

>play Descent
>nearly launch my supper back up through my mouth
Is this supposed to happen?

>>5709296
Enjoy your motion sickness. Some people get it.

>>5709291
you got me

Is it possible in Quake to make enemies dormant like in Doom and wake them up later? I don't want to do everything with monster teleport.

>>5709310
You can, by making them look away from the player. E1M2 does this with the starting monsters.
But they all wake up at the sound of gunfire or if they see you, same as Doom monsters do.

>>5709318
I see. Hope I can come up with something good....

>>5709318
Is there an equivalent to sound blocking lines?

Not a troll or anything, just a curious person. I registered for a Russian doom forum and found the article pertaining to doom remake 4. http://i.iddqd.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1634

>>5709392
TL;DR for those of us that does not understand failed attempt to invade Afghanistan.

>>5708910
lol

>>5708910
Based. Should've posted Doom instead.

>>5709406
what about failed attempts at invading Vietnam?

>>5709406
It was a joke to fuck with us. Idk if that's anything new.

CRUDUX CRUO

>>5709415
You mean french? I don't speak that either.

>>5709406
>only WE are allowed to fight islamic terrorists on their ground

>>5709432
>massacring entire towns and raping thousands of innocent women
> fighting islamic terrorists

Okay Ivan, don't you have to like bayonet charge some panzer before your commissar shots you?

>>5709441
Anon was shotted? Did he died?

>>5709441
>but it's totally it's okay when we do it

>>5709359
Ambush spawnflag.

>>5709110
-noambientsky compile option. Forgot if it's for qbsp or vis, check ericw's readmes.

>ruskies make realistic maps
>frenchies make hard shit
are there more international Doom stereotypes?

>>5709465
Japs make weird shit
in general.

>>5707207
"Goons with probes inserted into their pleasure centers; wired up so when they kill someone, they get paroxysms of ecstasy. In essence, customized serial killers."
From the manual. More monster than man.

>>5709465
Brazilians fills their maps with unnecessary shit

>>5709465
There aren't a lot of Italian maps that you could make a stereotype on, but from all i could gather it's either well done and also very rarely Trollish

>>5709424
Why do people who would generally criticize the overuse of hitscanners in other retro FPS games think that cultists are well-designed?

>>5709465
>Italy produces Grezzo, the greatest form of art

>>5709493
You mean satire not art?
satire is a form of art don't get me wrong but there is a big difference between them

>>5709068
>>5709082
>>5709118
Butthurt anons think their piss on Sigil makes their shitty wads any better. Hahaha.

>>5709229
Duke modding was fine until the release of DNF, since then it's all doom and gloom.

On the other hand, I have to say, Allen Blum's brilliant craftsmanship has never been replicated in the last 20 years of the Build engine.

>>5709525
Come on, there's still Duke 1, 2, and 3D! Also, there's other Build games to work with. Also, why not get DNF retconned?

>>5709487

>>5709229
AMC TC is pretty good.

>>5706509
>TFW Redneck Rampage Rides again is the least janky and haphazardly made of the sequels for series that were at least at one point on the Build Engine.

>>5709487
blood's level design helps you deal with hitscanners without even having to look at them

>mods deleted the single pixel nipples
>this will be fine to post, despite it being disturbing

>>5709623
You TNT maniac!