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>>5693031
>Super Castlevania IV
IV has some glaring flaws like the sub-weapons being trivialized by the whip and at least 1/4 of the game feeling like filler, but i really like it, unique atmosphere too.

>Post games that don't deserve the amount of love they get.
pic related, the entire trilogy, dogshit games

OP here.

I'd like to add this.

Mode7 top down parts and general slowdown bring it down, Hard Corps is better.

>>5693121
>>5693121
>Hard Corps is better.
Mi amigo

Rebirth is the best one, but few will admit it because it's not retro.

As much as you hate IV, Rondo of Blood will always objectively be worse than that game.

Doom.

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>>5693121
OP, you just seem mentally consumed by illogical console war fallacies.
Neither IV or Hard Corps are overrated, they are great games.
If they're not your personal favorites, that's a different matter.
Stop filling the board with your retarded, poor bait my friend.

>>5693031
It's perfectly easy enough to be accessible but challenging enough without being Nintendo hard, so you are wrong.

OP, are you mad because you got told in the castlevania thread? Be honest.

>>5693153

OP here. there's a Castlevania thread?

>>5693145
These examples are fresh in my memory because I played them recently, I was actually team Nintendo all the way back in 4th gen.

>>5693147

The difficulty isn't on a curve though, it's piss easy for about 2/3 of the game, and then it becomes Nintendo hard, but in a frustrating sort of way (getting stuck on things, not making jumps you could have sworn you landed etc)

>>5693031
>hardcorevanias
hardcore retard alert

>>5693153
I just noticed that one got deleted. Not surprising, it was an australia-kun thread.
>>5693161
>and then it becomes Nintendo hard, but in a frustrating sort of way (getting stuck on things, not making jumps you could have sworn you landed etc)
Castlevania IV's land detection is pretty generous, yet tight. I don't remember ever having trouble with the jumps and lands, or ever getting stuck anywhere. Also, while the first levels are easy, the same could be said for most other Castlevania games. In fact, Castlevania 4 has medusa heads on the first level, I can't think of many other CV games that throw them at you that early in the game, granted, 4's medusa heads, much like rondo's and bloodlines' aren't nearly as annoying as CV1 and 3's medusas, but still, I wouldn't say "piss easy", first quarter of the game is easy, but still engaging, difficulty picks up at the suberged city, and keeps increasing with each level accordingly

>>5693169

It's just a name for the original style of castlevania dude, before the metroidvanias, 3D games and god of war clones.

>>5693183
Then you should call them Arcadevanias, since those draw inspiration from arcade game-like design (points, continues, linear action-y levels, etc.)

>>5693180
>Castlevania 4 has medusa heads on the first level, I can't think of many other CV games that throw them at you that early in the game
They also aren't nearly as much of a threat in CV IV due to 8-directional whipping.

>>5693215
To be honest, I rarely whip them, just walk past them. Same in Rondo or Bloodlines.

>>5693031

Mario64 is not as good as Croc.

Hugo>crash

>>5693031
a fair number of the SNES all-time classics are overrated

>Super Castlevania IV
>Turtles in Time (also overrated in the arcades desu)
>Earthbound
>Secret of Mana (almost all the jarpigs by Square)
>Breath of Fire I, Breath of Fire II
>Star Fox
>DKC1

the list goes on, it's the retro system with the highest number of overrated games, 2nd only to the N64, where pretty much all the games by Rare are overrated and some of the Nintendo ones too. Perfect Dark is a barely playable techdemo on the N64, but somehow only got 9.5+ scores back in the day

>>5693435
But the classic "overrated" game on /vr/ is a PS1 game.

WAH WAH WAH MUH OBSCURE GAMES PLEASE TALK ABOUT MY OBSCURE GAMES

>>5693445
It's not even because of that. It's just for a small high on (You)s.

>overrated

>>5693049
All the Super series based on the Star Wars movies were hard as fuck.
>>5693132
Zoomer detected.
There's still mods for it made to this day.

>>5693049
I don't care that the whole world seems to hate those games, I Still think they're fun as fuck.

>>5693474
>whole world hates
no way man, everyone loves Super Star Wars

>>5693467
There's an easy setting, and Star Wars and Jedi are both very beatable with it. Empire is bullshit on any setting because it starts with godawful ice levels.

>>5693435
Completely disagree on all of that except Perfect Dark. When Goldeneye came out, it was groundbreaking. When Perfect Dark came out, it was a slideshow compared to Unreal Tournament on PC.

>>5693474
I only dislike SSW because there's no password system.
Kind of unfair with how hard it is. Fun to use the cheat codes on though.
All those games are pretty damn good imo. They were the first proper Star Wars games.

>>5693121
Can agree here.

SCIV is shit until you reach the castle, then it's good until you reach the terrible frankenstein level with instakill spikes everywhere
also the ost is mostly forgettable, which is unthinkable for a castlevania game

definitely the most overrated classicvania

>>5694061
How about getting good and not getting hit by spikes?
BTW, Castlevania 1 has insta-kill traps too.
>most overrated classicvania
At this point? Nah, Rondo is. Has been for a while. Not to say Rondo is bad, but it gets WAY more praise than it deserves.

Rayman. I have no idea how it became a franchise, the first game is so fucking bad.

>>5693031

Any treasure shit. Most konami. Any catslevania. Zelda. Especially the metal slugs. All these are games loved by clueless assholes. It would be OK if they would admit that the gamnes are shit. They never will though.

>>5695409
This.
Fuck Treasure.
Fuck Konami.
Fuck Castlevania.
And most importamtly
FUCK VIDEO GAMES!

>>5695431
>>5695409
RENT FREE

Freedom of speech leads to bad taste and ruined art. Prove me wrong.

>>5695445
Humans ruined art.

>>5695476
Art was never good.

>>5695525
t. human

>>5693031
>>5693121
Your taste in games is overrated.

>>5693031
I never knew it but apparently some people thought of the whip mechanic as silly. Some calling it a 'limp whip'

Was this really bad or maybe pointless /vr/? They easily could have did the 8 direction whipping and platforming sections without it desu but I never thought of the whip as being limp or a terrible thing. Bloodlines seems to work perfectly fine with the whip platforming and didn't need a limp whip since the levels were designed accordingly.

>>5695903

All the whip moves in 4 made it feel very "next gen" but it also made a lot of the game way easy and forced the devs to make some monsters eat a lot of hits to make them challenging.

It also made for some moves that people rarely used, for example I didn't figure out that you could hold attack+back to block projectiles until the Dracula encounter forced me to learn it.

The way bloodlines does it is better I think, keeping it simple but adding a couple moves.

In fact Bloodlines overall feels more like the NES games in general.

>>5695920
>In fact Bloodlines overall feels more like the NES games in general.
I thought the opposite, even though it doesn't let you change direction mid-air, Bloodlines lets you change face-direction mid-air, which wasn't on the NES games. Also being able to jump while climbing stairs like in Rondo, diagonal whip up kinda like IV, weird level design with not enough platforming and lots of mini-bosses, and also aesthetic changes like gems instead of hearts, or a weird boomerang instead of the cross.

>>5693031
I use to really like Super Castlevania but after I actually got to play Bloodlines on a good setup I prefer Bloodlines more.

>>5693121
We can only hope for an SA1 hack to remove the slowdown one day

>no Chrono Trigger
>no FF7
>no Draqonquests

>>5695065
>rayman 1, 2
>bad
No

>>5695065
based
>>5696593
rayman has and always will be fucking garbage.

>>5696718
It's a plok ripoff but Its a good game nonetheless

Just because you don't like a highly rated game, doesn't mean it's overrated.

>>5693031
Based. CIV is objectively pure shit.

X68000 > The New Generation > Rondo of Blood > Haunted Castle > MSX > 1 > 3 > Vampire's Kiss > 4 > 2

>NINTENDO GAMES BAD
>NON-NINTENDO GAMES GOOD

Dilate /vr/trannies

>>5697304
>using a gamefaqs poll to support his opinions
Lmfao are you fucking serious

>>5697283
>>5697283
>>5697283
THAT'S MY BOOOOYYYY

2D Mario in general is overrated. There were much better platformers during and after it's time. The controls are janky and frustrating, the level design isn't that good, and the visuals weren't that good even for the NES. The only real reason people enjoy 2D Mario is because they grew up with it, simple as that.

>>5697338
That's actually from Castlevania Dungeon forums, which have been around since before most people here even knew about Castlevania, probably.
Still, we don't even need to post that screenshot. And /vr/ doesn't actually hate IV at all. It's only 1 guy, maybe 2. Australia-kun, and maybe some other weirdo who doesn't like it. The rest think it's actually one of the best, or at least not "shit" as australia-kun would like /vr/ to think.
If anything, I didn't really care about IV much, but thanks to Australia-kun incessant shitposting, I went back to it and actually started appreciating it more. It has some of the best platforming design in the series.

>>5697526
>There were much better platformers during... it's time
>it's
True retro gamers like us know that Mario isn't a patch on true mid-80s masterpieces like Monty on the Run. You're a fucking clownshoe, mate.

>>5697526
>The only real reason people enjoy 2D Mario is because they grew up with it, simple as that.
If that helps you cope.
Truth is that Nintendo managed to actually make a polished platformer with good physics and engaging level design.
By saying you find the controls "frustrating" gives away how absolutely shite you are at video games.

>>5693031
Why do you have to make a thread bashing something instead of praising what you like? Do you really need to hang in this "unpopular opinion" method to get replies? How fucking sad.

Castlevania 4 is a classic man, you can't change that even if you have different taste.

Say what you want about that game OP but you cannot deny that pic related is one of the GOAT NES games.

>>5697815
Megaman 2, Ninja Gayden, and Mr. Gimmick are better, though.

>>5697815

It is very very good, not as good as 3 but that isn't really a knock against it.

>>5697815
OP is the same guy who posts the GnG Arthur pic saying GnG > Castlevania.
So yes, he can shit on CV1 too.

>>5693031
Castlevania didn't get really good until Symphony of the Night anyways.

>>5697848
Not true, it was an acclaimed series before that.
In fact, SOTN was kind of a sleeper hit. People didn't give a shit about 2D in 1997.

>>5697848
SotN was the beginning of the end.

>>5697848
go back to playing bloodstained, zoomer

>>5697643
Not that anon, but the physics have not aged well....at all. Super Mario world was the only good true 2d mario game. (Besides yoshis island if that counts). The physics are batshit retarded in the NES games and Mario will never respond the way you want him to like he does in Mario World. Ninja Gaiden and Megaman were way better NES platformers with actual good controls.

>>5697896
>>5697892
dilate
/vr/ castlevanias threads are a joke. full of fake fans.

>>5697902
>aged

>>5697903
>fake fans
says the fag that likes the fake nu-castlevania games

>>5697915
stay mad

>muh console wars in castlevania threads are much better xd xd xd

OoT by far.

>>5697925
>by far
not really, as much overrated as OoT is, it's still a great game that actually got its praise for gameplay mechanics, not non-game stuff like narrative or cutscenes, like many other 5th gen games.

>>5697902
I'm a retarded nearsighted genetically fucked nerd who's never played a sport and has no intuitive understanding of the way objects move in space.

>>5693474
super star wars is kinda shit. but the two sequals are good. the first has annoying as shit level