/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Deadline: July 7th 23:00 GMT
-All details and a FAQ can be found in the following pastebin to get you started
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

=== NEWS ===

[6-28] Masters of Doom to get a dramatized TV adaptation
https://www.pcgamer.com/james-and-dave-franco-are-producing-a-television-show-based-on-masters-of-doom/

[6-27] 'Vanilla Doom Plus', a monster variant randomizer balanced closer to vanilla
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vanilla-doom-plusmonster-randomizer-updated-june-25th40-added-monsters/

[6-22] /vr/ is hosting it's own Quake mapping project! GET IN HERE FAGETS

[6-20] Copper for Quake released: a vanilla+ mod (includes optional map pack)
http://lunaran.com/copper/index.html

[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

[6-13] FUNC- Sm197 Six Textures released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61741

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-update-is-here-four-new-maps-not-a-joke/

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOClc6Svg4

[6-9] New MetaDoom update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1590#p1107375

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

Sigil is better than your wad.

>>5696973
>implying sigil is better than nothing

>>5696973
eviternity is better than Sigil

>>5696937

>>5696994

>>5696998

Is there an easy way to make round structures with Trenchbroom or do I have to construct them with a bunch of brushes and vertex editing?

>>5697007
no easy shapes in TB but there are a few shortcuts using the CSG Merge function
some quakedads also insist on using this bizarre '1:2:2:2:2:4:1:4' ratio curve thing because it's on-grid, but it's not a real fucking circle

MAP FOR HUH
MAP FOR HUH
MAP FOR HUH

>but anon how am I supposed to learn Quake mapping and deliver a full level by the deadline
You got more than a week left to submit your map, we even got a rookie pimping out his first map in the first two days, if you keep you scope reasonable, anyone can do it!

-Watch the tutorials, they are short and TrenchBroom is a solid tool for neophythes
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE

-Where can I ask my noob questions
The Quake mapping Discord linked in Dumptruck's channel is full of experienced people willing to help you
>Discord
Func_Msgb for an anonymous alternative
Don't be afraid to post your progress here!

>Is TrenchBroom retard proof?
If I can do it, SO CAN YOU

-I can't think of ideas for my map
The best thing you can do is open up the original ID maps and see what makes them tick, don't be afraid mimic the aspects you like, that's how you learn.


MORE DETAILS IN THE FAQ:
https://pastebin.com/j8crafJN

>>5697007
dumptruck has tutorials specifically on that.

>>5697007
if you mean a round pillar then yeah dump has a tutorial for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcapvEtA1so&list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE&index=19&t=0s

Fucking around in trenchbroom and then going back and playing the original campaign is pretty cool. Seeing how the do shit.

How did they do those little jumping lava balls in the Hard level select? They fall up and down with a hurt trigger so i thought it was maybe just as a really fast door or something but it curves in mid air

>>5697026
It's a dedicated entity. I think it's classified as a trap but I'm not sure, poke around until you find it.

How's your map going lads?

>>5697018
Is this Quake 1 zombie or Ranger?

>>5697047
i've got one room down and not even entirely

>>5697047
Remember Daikatana?

>>5697047
its fucking SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5697057
>>5697059
>>5697060

u can do it!
ranger-chan believes in you

>>5697047
I made one blocked-out hallway, three doorways and a staircase, then immediately tried making everything interconnect and gave up.

>>5697047
>tfw I've been procrastinating the whole week trying to do the map
I swear I'll do it tomorrow guys, trust me
besides I dont even know how to map it

>>5697065
you don't have to worry about getting everything interconnected for your first map

remember e1m1? you go down the elevator, enter the base, go down the ramp and into the hallway that has the teleporter

>>5697074
the tutorials are really easy to follow my friend

>>5697083
E1M1 still has a fuckload of verticality, and you don't even really notice it until you noclip around. I can't get a grasp on that aspect of mapping for SHIT.

>>5697047
breddy well

>>5697085
open that map in trenchbroom, see how they do it
steal like taffer if you have to
the idea is to do it, worry about everything else later

>>5697089
>open that map in trenchbroom, see how they do it
You're lucky I already have the id1 map source files on hand, you can't open a .bsp in a map editor ya dunce.
tempted to just cobble a bunch of fucking shite together just so I can say I made a real map

Man Doom is still my favorite game of all time. Gonna beat for the 14th time now - literally. This time on UV... Any tips for second episode?

>>5697047
i'm just messing around in trenchbroom without any intention to make a beatable map
maybe if i really care i can make a garbage DM map

>>5697047
Have a few concepts, but not content with any of them. One of them was a cube, with different levels and each level was supposed to be harder than the last, but I have no idea how to fill it with content.
Now I just resorted to remaking a Doom 2 map I made some time ago. Will be nice being able to work in actual 3D, I am thrilled to see what I can do now.

>>5697090
map sources for every id1 level and the texture wad in the description of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0iKjYsoBg

>>5697114
>I already have the id1 map source files on hand
You dingus. i've been futzing with TB since before dumptruck's tutorials existed and still haven't done SHIT with it

>>5697117
my bad, I misread that as just the map source for the first level for some reason

Map enhancer guy, where are you ?

>>5697047
is there a glass texture inside the rubicon resources?
or somewhere?

>>5696952
I know everybody is crazy for HUH, but I wanted to post a small map I made over the last days.
It originally started as a shitty empty box for testing stuff because I got annoyed by MAP01 having to either run around or noclip to the backyard, so I made something I could load for testing.
That was too boring, though, so I added stuff. Since I hadn't mapped for a few years, I just added stuff as I got back into scripting, 3D floors, portals n shiet, so basically there's everything of everything.
I still have another idea, but I thought someone might like it.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehkggu5q3p4n8jp/TESTINGGROUND.wad?dl=0

>>5694660
Quakespasm.

>>5697134
>>5697047
good enough

Ok guys, I'll give quake a shot. What am I in for? Didn't like blood but loved douk and sw.

>>5697172
Dark and/or gloomy levels with some fun combat.

Playing /vr/ shooters in bed is pretty nice.

>>5697181
do any of those have gyro aim?

>>5697163
mistakes were made

>>5697183
Does the Vita even have gyros? Either way, no. Just stick aim. They all run at stable 60 fps though which is pretty impressive. Some even have mod support and server browsers but I wouldn't do multi on a handheld with shitty stick aim.

>>5697189
>Does the Vita even have gyros?
Yup. A number of first party titles actually used it.
>Either way, no. Just stick aim
That sucks. I'll stick to PC.

>>5697186
club quake

>>5697196
Yeah, I primarily play on PC as well. I just wanted to get some use out of this dead handheld and the novelty of having these games available anywhere is neat.

What's the best way to play doom on android?

>>5697212
Android has a million DOOM ports, just look for one that suits your needs. I think even GZDoom has an android port at this point.

>>5697181
>only have a PSP
I should try playing Quake on that and see if its playable

the ports of Doom are pretty lackluster though

Is there any table comparing Doom and Quake enemies? I have no idea what and how to place. E.g. the Shalrath with its homing projectile, would it be akin to the Revenant? Where do Ogres stand? Like Chaingunners? Demons? etc

In Trenchbroom, is it possible to cut a round hole into a brush using CSG somehow? Can't seem to figure this out.

>>5697216
iirc PSP Quake is pretty bad and PSP DOOM is nothing more than a tech demo. The only reason Vita has such good ports is because some Russian autismo coded a GL wrapper and a custom source port for idtech 2. The guy is an absolute madman. He's doing Build engine next.

>>5697221
How about you fucking play Quake?

Can I please have a compression free version of this? I've seen it before, I know it exists

what are some good wads for coop?

>>5697227
>deviantart
You should look harder.

>>5697315
Blood's "extra crispy" difficulty.

>>5697227
>>5697317
The Blood logo will never not look like Caleb slapped his bloody hand against a vagina

>>5697325
But I like my hands stinky.

>>5697317
Is the space in the palm meant to just be that or a silhouette of Caleb?

>>5697336
Take your meds, anon. You're seeing things.

>>5697223
yes, wafch the tutorial on csg

>>5696951
I've been tinkering around with GZDoom Builder trying to get this to work and I have no idea what's going on. I've been following tutorials on how to get Monster Closets to work, yet despite following it to a T, the doors never actually open despite me grabbing the red key (which I made as a trigger) to cause the monster closets to work. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong here? I am new to mapping and a brainlet and I don't want to stop just because of something easily solvable.

>>5696981
100% this right here. Eviturnity blows Sigil out of the water.

>>5697221
They play differently from Doom's, so trying to use them like that is kind of a waste of time.
The Shambler may seem like an Arch-Vile slot at first, but then you remember he's a big meaty melee machine too, and can take a serious pounding, further resisting explosive damage, so at a glance he's got more like one foot in the Arch-Vile square and the other in the Baron Of Hell square, but there's a bit of Pinkie and Cyberdemon in that equation too.
The Fiend seems like he'd fit as the Pinkie, but he's actually a lot more vicious, just he's never used in as large numbers.

At best, the Scrag figures sort of like the Caco, but less round and smug looking, and the zombie grunts kind of are like the zombiemen, except their shotguns don't hit you very hard, compared to the baldies in Doom, who actually hurt pretty bad, so barely that either.
They have their own synergies, they just do not translate 1 to 1.
Quake's own zombies can maybe be looked at as 'ghost monsters', in how you need an explosive to deal with them.

oh fug

>>5697391
The slimes are like a more lethal lost souls.

>>5697221
what is even the point of doing this

I cannot imagine a scenario in which comparing quake and doom enemies even makes sense. They're stylistically and functionally different in almost every single way. The soldiers are the only real overlaps and even then, they function very differently between the games.

>>5697396
You found her!

>>5697370
its hard to say without a picture but you could be:
-using the wrong linedef (make sure its a walk linedef (W1/WR))
-using doors that are raised from the floor instead of lowered from the ceiling
-linedef is facing the wrong way (shortcut F to flip while in line mode)
-door IS going up but is stopping at a nearby low ceiling
-testing in wrong format/sourceport
-untagged sectors/tags in the wrong place

>>5697439
>filename
You take that shit back.

Its me again
Im using the following mods
DOOMRPG Se
colourful hell
DoomRL_arsenal
DOOMRL_monsters
LegendDoomLite
and oblige to generate my maps
My question is, why do only black monsters spawn in my maps? Ive seen in screenshots and bestiary that there are n4 different types of every monster but i only get the black one. Thanks

>>5696951
I still unironically believe that it might turn out that NuDoom actually is not just an alternate universe, but also D:E goes further and states that the demons of "hell" you've been fighting are in fact inhabitants of a realm in the Universe known as Otherspace. The technoangels you briefly see in the more recent trailers are Aliens from another part of the galaxy that is closer to the center (basically they are from the galactic inner rim), and they not only have mapped much of the galaxy and several parts of interstellar space, but they are currently in a centuries-long war against the demons. "Hell" turns out to be one of many lower planes of space that can be called "otherspace"

>Download Thief fan mission
>have to up the gamma because I can't see shit

I get that Thief is a dark game and most missions happen during the dead of night but jesus mantake it easy with the lighting, I can't appreciate your fancy brushwork like this

H-how can you guys play games so scary that have spooders in them? I dropped blood in the 2nd episode when I saw the giant spooder.

>>5697508
OH FUCK what's that on the floor?!

>>5697508
I know how you can beat your arachnophobia anon
jack it to spider monster girls until the fear goes away

>>5697512
HOLY SHIT
a cheeto!

>>5697508
have your bf kill them

>>5697515
Oh shit

>>5697448
Could be one of those actually. I'll post a picture soon when I get back on my computer.

>>5697512
I don't see anything, senpai.

>>5697515
I don't want to get PTSD

>>5697520
I'm a guy...apparently a beta.

>>5697521
I'm not clicking that shit, anon.

>>5697528
You already have PTSD if you let video game spiders freak you out. Damn, man.

>>5697535
I wouldn't have a problem if I could shoot them from distance, but some of them are on the ground, others jump in my face and I jump out of my chair every time. Too much for me.

What are the best settings for darkplaces if you want it to look like quakespasm? I wanted to give 1.5 a try out but darkplaces is a fucking horrible mess of dynamic lights and fancy effects, even turning on 'quake-style' particles gives me horrible round ones instead of delicious squares.

>>5697573
darkplaces literally cannot do square particles

How do I load multiple mods if I don't have a launcher cause I'm on OSX?

>>5697575
Are you shitting me?
Fuck it i'll just turn on all the bloom and grease and wallow in the filth then.

>>5697146
I think it's a charming map, anon.

>>5697576
Command line

>>5697576
https://github.com/FreaKzero/ssgl-doom-launcher/releases
I use this on my linux laptop, functions similarly to ZDL and has a mac build, hope it works for you.

This Quake thing has taught me I don't know dick about making maps.

>>5697608
get in line

>>5697608
More complicated than you'd image at first glance, right? Come on, anon. I believe in you. You can learn things.

>>5697585

>>5697181
gravity rush mode for quake/doom when?

>>5697612
The only thing I'm learning right now is that I need graph paper.

FPS literally killed PC gaming, before we had smart games like test based adventures, point n click adventure games, and strategy games but then garbage like DOOM came out and brought in the children to PC gaming

Kill yourselves worthless zoomers

>>5697658
Oh shit its a literal boomer. All those games sucked except zork, lords of midnight, wizardry and ultima.

>>5697603
...How does this thing work, exactly?

>>5696951
I'm not gonna make it.

>>5697689
Don't you give up on me
You can do it god dammit

how do you make custom font in GZDoom 4 1 3 for the menu?

>>5697616
BETHESDA
HIRE
THIS
MAN

>>5697689
At least you actually have a big area, I'm stuck spending autistic amounts of time on the stupid intro hallway.

>>5697693
Graf does not like this question. So ask him.

>>5697691

>>5697725

>>5697097
I'm surprised you played it so much without playing on UV. DOOM1's maps are all pretty easy, Thy Flesh Consumed excluded, I wouldn't be concerned. You should play DOOM2 and Final DOOM after this playthrough on UV too. Might have to go back down to HMP for Plutonia specifically.

tacodemon

I'M SO SICK OF THESE FUCKING CUNTS. EVERY DAY IT'S JUST AHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHHH. NEVER FUCKING DIE IT'S JUST AAAAAAAAAAH, AHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHH AND EVEN WHEN THEY DO DIE IT'S JUST MORE AAAAAAAHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH, AHHHHHHHHHHHH. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5697370
>>5697448
>>5697523
Alright, here's the picture.

>>5697796
it could be worse

*instantly kills you from 200/200 if you get in melee range*

heh, nothin personnel

>>5697796
But they calm down as long as you give them a hug, anon. Abandonment issues.

>>5697668
set up paths for your source ports, your iwads and your pwads/mods, then select from the menus

>>5697812
It looks like you gave the tag to the line itself. Which would work if you were using the original Doom line actions. But you're using a UDMF format action, so you need to put the tag in the line's arguments (in this case the "sector tag" field underneath "Door Open").

>>5697658
Sounds like you might enjoy Hedon.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/60kr4pu0zzqe3u9/babby.zip/file

Don't think I'll be able to finish this map before I leave, so here is this unfinished, blocky mess

>>5697508
besides metadoom, what other mods have an option to turn off specific enemies due to someone's phobias?

>>5697360
Which one? I haven't found anything on cutting holes using it.

>>5697878
it's very bright
quake feels weird when bright

>>5697852
You calling him gay?

https://twitter.com/Batandy_/status/1142788931911593984
>>5679968
holy shit, awesome

>>5697931
The lurkening

With how long everyone is taking for their maps, I don;t know if people are just lazy or they're putting so much effort into their map that comparatively, its gonna blow my castle map out of the water.

>>5697961
I already gave up. Hah!

>>5697961
Why wouldn't you take your time? If I'm given two weeks I'll make damn sure to use the entire two weeks and send my map off shortly before the deadline.

>>5697842
Do I also need a tag to the door? I tried to the line and when I tested it nothing happened (put the tag as 2). And when I checked the door there's no sector tag field there.

>>5697961
I've been thinking about extending the deadline, but I'm not sure how that would affect most people, some will get some much needed breathing room while others will always leave it hanging until the last possible moment no matter what you do (been there before)

It's what happens with most community projects, contests, jams and such, a number of people will always drop off for different reasons, they gave up, they are busy with work/school or their computer decides its the perfect opportunity to stop working.
I'm a bit worried this may encourage people to just try to reach for the stars and burn themselves out before finishing their stuff.

Maybe I'm worrying too much, I dunno.
I guess we could take the plunge.

Should we extend the deadline?

https://strawpoll.com/889y94kc
https://strawpoll.com/889y94kc
https://strawpoll.com/889y94kc
https://strawpoll.com/889y94kc

>>5697990
Make sure the door SECTOR has the same tag. It looks like you only have a linedef selected in that picture.

>>5697990
yeah every linedef needs to connect to a corresponding sector through a tag (except Door linedefs but ignore that for now), what youve done is tagged the linedef on the door so the action isnt being received by the door so go into sector mode and right click the door and tag it 2
also your trigger linedef is facing the wrong way, it will probably still trigger but it will be more responsive facing the other way
finally I would recommend making a full circle of triggering linedefs around the key as you could avoid the trap altogether by tiptoeing around the green linedef

>Brutal Doom got a Cacoward
https://www.doomworld.com/18years/others.php

>>5698035
Lunatic, Vanguard, and Jenesis are legit good though so I still call 2011 a win

>>5698035
ok

>>5698035
that was before the mod was super bad
what is boring nowadays was interesting in the past
that's just history

>>5697508
>>5697528
>being afraid of something so harmless
There's like what, less than 1% of spider species that can actually hurt a human?
don't be a wuss

>>5698051
Idk why but that reminds me of when cawwadoody type shooters were huge and actually good at first but several years on everyone started to complain about how slow/boring they were

>>5697439
Why doesn’t Doomguy ever answer her calls?

>>5698059
Try the Call of Dooty series. Premium wads.

How to i make ENDOOM show up in GZDoom?
Where do i find the option?

>>5698070
Console command. Now's your time to learn some of those.

>>5698070
>>5698074
Nevermind, GZDoom let's you search for it so i found it.

What recent megawads do you guys recommend? The doom guide is several years out of date

>>5697961
I'm replaying quake before making my map, yes all 4 episodes

>>5698035
congratulations, you're almost a decade late

https://pastebin.com/JTXfxZ8v
The MetaDoom pastebin was updated.
In case nobody knows what this is, it's just to explain stuff from the mod, like the gameplay and references.

>>5698087
Eviternity's the popular one right now.

>>5698087
what about older ones that are good but not so popular?

>can make a nice looking room reasonably well
>corridors are just square tubes

>>5698170
Try this.

>>5698172
OK NOT VORES I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENEMIES ARE CALLED FUCK
Vores up on some ledge?

>>5698172
>>5698174
> anon's advice for spicing up a corridor:
> add a window with an archvile menacingly staring at you behind it

>>5698172
I'm making a Base map but this gave me some idea. Thanks.

>walls that make you UNF

>>5698170
The corridor turns into a room. Hope you like func_train shit

>>5698170
make boring looking corridor
suprise faggot! the side walls are actually bars and you just triggered them!
the bars move up and down revealing a big room full of bad guys and you are in the middle of it

>>5697689
Enough mapping for today.

>>5698184

>>5698198
shit man that's actually pretty cool

Nailed it

>>5697587
Thank you anon :3

How can i import my character into the next mappack?

>>5698237
add a dummy map into your mod
warp to it after you're done with mapset 1 and save
boot up with mapset 2 and load
warp to first map

i think

>>5696951
What were the two main mapping tools for Quake 1 and Q2 in the late 1990s-early 2000s?

>>5697189
vitaQuake has gyro aim, not sure about the rest, but Quake2 and Hexen2 ports are made by the same guy so I guess they also have it

>>5698250
fuck wrong post
>>5697183

>>5698209
Thanks, generous anon. I'm doing it blind while I shitpost and it goes fucking slow but at least I'm not getting stuck. Not sure if I'll meet the deadline, I didn't confirm my participation anyway.

>>5698242
Stupid here
can these settings help me somehow to make this process easier?

If Doomguy ever talks, he should be voiced by Stan Hansen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHuJdlhMnXA
prove me wrong

>>5698179
I don't know about menacingly.

>>5698267
For some reason I think Doomguy has the voice of a hillbilly.

>>5698217
30 hours on trencbroom.jpg

>>5698273
more of a working class texan accent than a hillbilly. Think somewhere around the Dallas area.

>>5698217
Add square ceiling lights. One is different. Shoot it, floor opens up and you get GUN.

>>5698262
>look it up
>screenshot is actually real
Damn

Arcane Dimensions and Func Map Jam X (Insomnia) have both had broken triggers for me where I've had to restart the level and then they work. In both cases it was a door that was supposed to open not opening, which makes it impossible to beat the level without Noclip. I'm using Quakespasm.

Is Quakespasm the problem here? For Insomnia, it was the room in Filtration Station where the silver keycard is.
Should I be using Darkplaces to play these mods instead?

>>5698264
Nevermind, it seems there is a mod intern option to switch characters. Its stated here
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=63766&start=45
thanks anyway

>>5698262
Shawn Green needs to make a game about Shawn Green. But I would honestly love to meet this guy.

I just had an idea. Hdoom + Mr. Friendly. Making friends is how you get the animations. Hdoom seems to work with Mr. Friendly just for changing the sprites, but I don't think there is a way to trigger the animations. A big problem is that you are a lost soul in friendly.

Does Trenchbroom not have box selection or am I just fucking blind?

>>5698298
Hell no, they're definitely meant for Quakespasm. Possible just map bugs?

>>5698313
Make a brush, then hit the keybind for either 'select all touching' or 'select all inside' depending on what you want to grab. The selected brush will disappear and you'll instead have selected everything that was in or touching it.

>>5698334
Oh shit I think with Filtration Station I may have missed something somewhere to "power on" the door. But with Arcane Dimensions I'm 100% sure it was a glitch. I think in Arcane Dimensions the enemy who spawns in was supposed to trigger opening the door but I killed him with a grenade immediately and the door didn't trigger. Just checking they're good for Quakespasm though. Thanks.

>>5698334
>>5698346
I'm only sure about Arcane Dimensions because when I quickloaded a few seconds before the door opened correctly that time. Not that it matters really, just a small error.

>>5698334
Strange way of doing it. Thanks though.

>>5698334
>select all touching
what do you want with me

>>5698406
kek

still taffing
>play The Sword
>getting real sick of the shit Thief pulls on Expert
>Ok I've done it I'm playing on hard after this one
>when trying get the extra objective about finding incriminating evidence on Constantine I notice a tongue in one of the pillars
>access a whole new area I've never even came across the first time I played
>it starts a small diorama of a town and then you go down some plumbing to end up in the Thief equivalent of a Rats map
>you get the objective by reading a gigantic fucking note on gigantic fucking desk

Well fuck I guess they don't call him the Trickster for nothing.

I did notice a bug where the objective gets bugged and you lose it if you read the letter from the architect that is located in the gardens, so you should be warned to only read one of those notes or you are going to get stuck in an unwinnable map.
Good thing I had a save.
Fucking Trickster.

Finally go around to playing Wolfstone to see how it is. Turns out they removed all the swastikas from the maps because the game takes place in a resistance base instead of a Nazi castle. In some cases, the maps were replaced from the ground up because they were made out of nothing but swastikas. Like Map53.

>>5697317
I looked pretty hard bro

>only one good doom related youtube channel
>he's a fucking brony

>>5696981
>eviternity is better than Sigil
Doomworld autist "opinion" noone cares.

Eviternity is shitty shit. All levels are the same shit.

It's a little reception area.

>>5698579
Bigmacdavis?

>>5698001
I don't think I'll finish on time, I'm the goldeneye dude
I wanted to also do the facility but it will be only the dam

>>5698579
Hey Decino is pretty good

Also that other dude, but we don't talk about him, he said he was going to work on a half-life video and still hasn't delivered
Boy what an asshole
haha

>>5698610
not even if we add the extra week?

>>5698632
yeah, I was about to post asking for that extra week
I have my parents with health problems (my dad had a stroke), I'm mapping on and off and off and off

>>5698592
"Mistah Cyberdemon, your 3 o'clock Rip and Teah's ready"

>>5698639
I hope your old man recovers as best as possible, anon.

>>5698579
What?

>>5698639
I'll cut you a deal since you are are dealing with this stuff
Even if we dont add the extra week you keep working on it and send it over to me, I don't know how long it's going to take me to do the hub map (havent started on it yet) but if you get it done before I finish it its going in

Hope your old man recovers anon

This Quake project should have been something a lot smaller since most people are using trenchbroom and mapping for Quake for the first time. Should have set a theme or goal to make a super small map with 3 or so rooms to get everyone up to speed.

>>5698660
Yeah you are right, I should have taken that into consideration.
Not sure what we can do about it now besides extending the deadline.

I'll check the poll when I get back and see how to proceed.

Are there any downsides to using Polymost in EDuke?

What are your recommended settings for Nashgore, /doom/?

(The current version)

>>5698659
Just ad the extra week. I voted that I'm doing fine on the poll but I don't care. That's just more time to polish.

>>5698710
Now I’m reminded of when Duke had to kill those pregnant chicks in DNF.

>>5698579
>>5698597
Its not really a big deal, just ignore his youtube profile icon. For me personally I can't stand the way he talks.

>>5698765
Amazing how one level in particular made a once great series end

Just beat Dimensions of the Past, the "5th Quake episode" with nothing left but 5 health and 12 shotgun bullets. That was great but hard.

Are there any other good multi-level Quake mods that aren't just collections of random maps?

>>5697508
IRL, I might risk touching a real spider, and I have only limited means to deal with them.
In Blood, I have various guns and lots and lots of dynamite, I can fucking destroy the place with the spider and face no consequences.

>>5698056
It's generally some weird old primal thing passed down since caveman times.
It was probably way more relevant back in those days, and just sticks around here and there in humanity (though there's a few places in the world where it still makes sense).

Had this idea for a 3 map wad were I would recreate the REPCONN TEST SITE from fallout New Vegas on doom 2.

Instead of helping ghouls go to space, you just kill everything instead. Should prove a little bit difficult for me to do and I will mostly do out of memory lol

>>5698765
>>5698783
Yeah, but it isn't anything new to the series.

>>5698820
It felt far less real and detailed in DN3D.

>>5698710
>That pic
I never noticed the shitty texture alignment.

>>5698765
He never killed them if memory serves right, he talked to them and they exploded.

>>5698825
I don't remember the wall pregnancies having face attached, so I kinda disagree

>tfw I beat 2 shamblers in the same room at the same time with only 10 health and a shotgun
This one room took me over an hour.

Goddamn High Noon Drifter is fun.

>>5698884
One of the finest mods of all time. Its honestly the only thing that could get normies into dood mods beside brutal doom

Why people hate Derelict? This is one of the best levels ever made for the Build Engine.

Is it possible to do scrolling textures in Quake?

>>5698995
Sometimes the most hated maps/levels are most fun to play. Mine was the escape! from thief gold.

>>5697891
Have no idea but I'd really like to know. Nothing in DOOM scares me, but spooders are just disgusting.

>>5697516
do you think it ever feels lonely

If Doomguy is a descendant of Commander Keen, who is a descendant of BJ Blazkowicz, does that make Doomguy a Polish Jew and therefore circumcised?

>>5697163
>>5697186
are you perhaps making the first level of goldeneye?

>>5697213
>>5697212
yup, there is a version of GZDoom for android, it supports mods.

>>5697489
>game where you hide in the dark
>WTF WHY IS IT SO DARK?
Taffer

>>5697508
Try playing Thief, it's gonna be fun i promise :)

>>5699071
Thief spiders are kinda cute tho.
t. another arachnophob

>>5699076
The sound they make tho...
Thief is probably what triggered my arachnophobia in the first place.

>>5699071
I won't click that shit. I know Thief has spiders.

t. dropped thief when I saw a spooder.

Did BloodKEX ever get another update?

remember to play dos versions of games

>>5699097
nah, amiga all the way.

>>5699096
Last update is 6th June (Hotfix for update 2)

>v21monstersonly
haha, time to open another can of worms

Looks like we got another another graphics "mod" using same crappy (((3D models))) and clickbaiting name. Again, brought by a slav from Russian Federation. Slavs, explain yourselves.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-rtx-on

>>5699117
Why do you post and focus on things you don't like?

>>5699117
Right side looks pretty good, not gonna lie.

>>5699117
Somebody is just memeing. The author has gopnik avatar and Putin in his profile.

What's the most populated quake multiplayer? 3?

>>5699117
>another
it's the same exact shit under a different name

>>5699117
Slav here, not Russian. But the right looks like absolute garbage holy shit.

>>5696951
>Just a quick note to say I am no longer working on Eureka. However I will consider fixing bugs if they are serious enough (especially ones which cause a crash).

>>5698015
>>5698019
Oh shit thanks guys, it works perfectly now.
And gotcha, I'll try this, the mapping probably won't go public since it's just an experimental test level as a gift for a friend of mine before I actually get into proper mapping and modding.

Out of curiosity do you happen to know a good place for GZDoom Builder tutorials that aren't outdated? I mostly followed this from a tutorial that was pretty outdated.

>>5697018
Is Trenchboom easier than GZDoom builder?

just pbr textures where the fuck ever he has found them and gzdoom postprocessing effects ON

>>5698710
You start pissing yourself at night. No known cure.

>>5699123
Whatever you say, 2chins.

>>5699152

>>5699005
No.

>>5699157
N-No Bobo not here. Leave please! I want to escape you!

Is there wad with 20th Anniversary Extended PlayStation Soundtrack?

>>5699117
doomguy looks miffed

>quake
Does this game even get a bit more colorful? The setting itself is pretty shit, I don't like every level to be dark.

>>5699173
check out my sweet moves homie

>>5699146
A real RTX with Doom simple geometry doesn't make much difference either.

>>5699204
Because on your screen there's no materials.

>>5699204
Try it with the mod in question, and maybe disable dynamic lights i have no clue how rtx works 2bh just pointing out that these are pbr textures

Are there any Quake maps that don't look dark as hell?
I want some bright, outdoors, interesting maps, not dark caverns and castles at night. Anything?

>>5699198
Nope. Quake is all grimdark browns and greys.

>>5699212
https://andrewyoderdesign.blog/2019/04/23/release-notes-for-toybox/

>>5699195
This looks as if doomguy was a russian alcoholic.

>>5699219
Here you go.

>>5699216
Wow it looks like The Adventures of Square but for Quake. Thanks.

Those who say Eviturdnity is better than Sigil, just tell me, were there any memorable points or elements in that wad like

>shootable eye
>Baphomet picture ending
>glowing cracks and pentagrams
>crusher maze
>Minotaur maze
>large cages outside
>Cyberdemons attacking you from the two edges of the map
>dark, scary city
>pathway that can teleport you to previous areas you visited

etc etc

I mean something we can talk about and remember from the wad.

Can someone post a mega with his/hers folder with quake maps and mods/tc's please?

>>5699257
But that's where I hide my porn

>>5699260
=(.

Then another question. How do I install quake injector? I downloaded the alpha 3 stuff and has no exe.

>>5699270
Use Quakeinjector.jar, that's your executableAlso check readme.txt

>>5699274
thanks!

>>5698137
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106082-the-dwironman-league-dies-to-sigil/
Pick one.

>>5699241
>that snowy castle with a frozen lake
>the snowy forest glade
>that battle in what seems like clock dial
>the dam area where you slowly open the level up
>that uphill battle and climbing in a hellish volcano
>the ascendance to heaven
>throwing a whole evil fortress into the abyss with a flick of a switch
>flying the wind via clever invisible staircase trick
>that first map that you revisit as part of the end map, by getting thrown into a whirlpool, straight from heavens
>that two-level map with caverns with a pseudo RoR teleport trick
>that enormous secret level

There's plenty of memorable things in Eviternity. Your whining sounds to me like you haven't even played it.

>>5699310
probably because he's trolling

>be me
>get alien quake for quake
>alien spooder jumps in my face
Oh fuck off, please. I'm done with this shit. Doom from now on, at least that shit doesn't have them.

>>5699315
spooder mastermind doesn't count?

>>5699317
Nope, it has 4 legs and it's giant so it won't jump in my face. Fucking hell man, trying blood/quake/thief really gave my heart a hard time.

>>5699321
It's also a shame because quake was fun, but I'm not going back to anything that has spooders in it.

Guess I'm using nothing but spiders in my Quake map.

>>5699328
there are no spiders in id1 quake

>>5699336
i can still make them out of brushes

>>5699328
Ambient spider noises.

Fuck it we are adding that extra week.

DEADLINE CHANGED TO JULY 14TH

DEADLINE CHANGED TO JULY 14TH

DEADLINE CHANGED TO JULY 14TH

My apologies for the uneven handling of the project.
Next thread we are going to need to change the news post.

>>5699328
=(

Why do devs, mappers, especially the ones that make retro shit always have spooders on their minds?

>>5699142
I find it to be easier, I find it easier to work with brushes than linedefs

Okay, wtf is going on with myTrenchbroom? I just put the regular zip release on my laptop and copied the other folders from my desktop.
It starts up, I can use it, I can compile the map and everything is good, but in TB I get stuff like "Could not load model progs\player.mdl: File not found: 'progs\player.mdl'" and I can't see any textures or models.

>>5698798
basically any mapset that has an episodic structure
coffe quake, goshun the lost levels, travail, soul of evil

>>5699198
later levels add some terracota and blue textures
but yeah the color palette is pretty muted

>>5699212
there are a couple of arcane dimensions maps that fit that bill, like a floating metal structure where you have to work your way up

>>5699363
not sure what that could be
have you tried putting a clean id1 folder in your trenchbroom directory?

>>5699378
Yeah I guess you're right about the Arcane Dimensions maps but I'm looking for something else I guess. I've played through Arcane Dimensions already.

Why do we hate doom remake 4 again?

Guys...I'm bored of doom, the only games that aren't destroyed by spiders to me are Duke and Marathon. Do you guys have any suggestions of fps that has no spiders in them? I'm seriously scared shitless of them, even when I played diablo 2 I had to close my eyes and press Mouse 2 to get rid of them.

>>5699409
Just don't.

>>5699418
have you tried not being a Pussy?

Like flies on shit.

>>5699431
878/979 mb

>>5699432
Yes, I've been trying to not be a pussy, thanks for the suggestion.

>>5699363
Sounds like you fucked up the directories setup.

>>5699434

>>5699418
I don't remember Redneck Rampage having spoders

>>5699440
Seems like it. That fucker also just keeps the game directory for some reason. I deleted the folder, the one in appdata/roaming, but to no avail - is there any other place where config stuff is saved?

>>5699452
Does Unreal have spoders? Haven't even tried the game, just found it in the pastebin.

>>5699409
Doom has not been re-made even 1 time yet, and you already want 4th.

>>5699458
I don't think so. I haven't played it in a few years. It is an excellent, highly atmospheric singleplayer game, though. I really liked it. Phenomenal soundtrack as well.

>>5699460
Doom 3 was originally announced as a remake of Doom.

>>5699464
But it was "Doom 3". Not "Doom Remake" or "Doom Remastered".

guys, i'm adding spiders to Doom, also making new spider sprites for the Slimers in Duke3D :)

>>5699462
Any ports or doesn't need any? Thanks for the info.

>>5699456
I don't know, but you could go to the Trenchbroom discord and ask.

>>5698646
thanks
>>5698659
ok, I'll do my best
>>5699062
yep

>>5699458
it has pupae, but they aren't very hard to kill

>>5699468
>chaingunners just throw spiders

>>5699469
No ports, but you may want to get the unofficial D3D10 renderer. It doesn't change the graphics but it does run better on newer hardware. The S3TC textures are also nice if you want higher-quality versions of the official textures.

>>5699480
Only four legs so anon should be FINE. Worked with the spider mastermind.

>>5698991
I think Demonsteele is up there.

>>5699484
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

>>5699480
It's...manageable. I hate small stuff that jumps in my face, but I think I'll be alright with 4 legs. Thanks for the heads up.

>>5699204
are you using pbr materials?

>>5699480
>>5699486
t. spider queen

>>5699501

>>5699509
ugly piece of shit

>>5699418
Quake has no spooder
vores only have 3 legs mind you

>>5699515

>>5699475
Fixed it. Turns out I was just retarded and had the game configuration set one folder too deep.

>>5699516
Tried Alien Quake and had a small spooder jump in my face and I deleted everything afterwards. So far, Doom is the way to go for me.

>>5699517
Never understood the obsession of making monster with tons of legs or at least spider-like. It's ugly

>>5699524

Not spideranon but I saw a spider on my wall and got so spooked I started yelling at it about how I was going to kill it and its whole family and then I wrapped it in toilet paper and sent it down the toilet. I hate spiders in real life. I love mangling them in video games. And in real life. Fuck them.

>>5699531

>>5699418
Lmfao all the good old-school FPS games have spiders. It sounds like you need to deal with that problem first. There's some fucking beautiful Quake mods.

Func Map Jam X is fucking great, for example. But something like Arcane Dimensions contains a lot of spiders.

>>5699524
yeah but thats your fuckup from playing ALIEN Quake
you should know about facehuggers

however non vanilla maps might fuck you, AD has spiders

>>5699567
He can probably just reskin the spiders or something. That could legit work but it would be funny.

>>5699567
>non vanilla maps
Then do you have any vanilla maps? <3

>>5699591
dude any map that does not require AD or Quoth is a vanilla map
that's it

something i don't get about new doom games is how they keep changing the uac symbol, like the original one isn't iconic and recognizable

>>5699593
Also Drake. Drake is like Quoth. And I think there's just a few others. The mods that require Drake though are fucking hard in my opinion.

>>5699531
quality post and behavior

>>5698848
I remember him saying, "Sorry, babe. It's better this way." and then killing them.

>>5696951
Can Guncaster 3.2 work on GZDOOM version 3.5.0?

Post /vr/ spiders

>>5699069
but anon
how am I supposed to hide in the shadows if everything is shadows

recaptcha is particularly dense today

>>5698995
Thats the boat level right? That one was decent. The only levels I downright hated in that game were The Abyss, The Queen and a 1 or 2 levels in ep 2 that I can't remember specifically.

>>5699671
Its a shame these weren't included in the remake. Seeing high def giant spooky spiders probably would have given some people legit heart attacks.

where can I get the the thief 1/2 textures?

>>5699693
Hide in complete pitch blackness

>>5699726
realm667?

>>5699710
>>5699703
is that Turok?

>>5699671
i have an entire folder dedicated to hentai from this exact section.

How do I enable pistol starts in Doom?

>>5699703
That stretched texture is far more terrifying than the spider.

>>5699734
yes

The absolute fucking madlad Decino can berserk fist a Cyberdemon from full health to death on UV -fast

https://youtu.be/QGeQn3ZwRiQ?t=352

I don't think I have the coodination or patience to dodge a thousand insta-death rockets like he does

>>5699742
pls respond

>>5699793
If you're using GZDoom, load this mod called IDCLEVer

https://github.com/mmaulwurff/idclever-starter/archive/0.5.3.zip

If you don't want to use mods, just reload the map you're playing from the console to get a pistol start. Or disable autosaves.

>>5699793
Just type in idclev[levelnumber] on your keyboard

>>5699782
You guys know what this means, right? nuts.wad UV-Max true 100% with no mods/cheats is possible.

>>5697216
Consider trying out Quake 2 as well.

t. someone who completed the entire game on PSP

>>5699804
On the main menu or console command? Is the level number written like e#m#?

>>5699418
Based spideranon

Whats the best doom wad ever?

>>5699310
Lol, you know shit. All of these are just farts in the wind.

>>5699835
shadow of the wool ball

>>5699835
sigil

>>5699835
Chex Quest

>>5699071
*hiss*

>>5697047
do I need a closed volume for the sunlight to show?

>>5699859
not in the editor, in the game, it's pitchblack

>>5699117
Why the fuck do you expect us explain ourselves for the behavior of some autistic shitters?

>get in thread after play some doom
>see spooders everywhere
G-guys?

>>5699353
Thank you based project manager.

>>5699817
console command would be map map##
or map e#m# dependant on whether you play Doom 1 or 2.

>>5699867
Anon how old are you

>>5699903
23.

>>5699904
sorry anon, this board is 30+

>>5699905
>he doesn't know the average age of people in this thread

Hardest megawad that isn't a joke/intentionally impossible?

>>5699905
I thought it's full of literal zoomers and a few 30+ boomers.

>>5699908
D2Reloaded

>>5699908
Sunder and Sunlust are often referred to as the toughest of the hard non-joke WADs.

i am a literal zoomer

>>5699202
hot Isabelle rule 34

>>5699910
>>5699907
Those darn kids are shitting up my board.

>>5699913
As opposed to a figurative one?

>>5699913
Hello moderating team, would you please remove this urban youth member from my boomer thread?

i am a metaphorical zoomer

>>5699918
yes

>>5699920
>urban
sorry, i am rural

Probably a silly question but -

is there anything you guys suggest I do in my HUH Quake map to better accommodate Copper gameplay? Or are the differences so subtle that it shouldn't be any different to making a map with pure vanilla in mind?

>>5699810
so how was it?
did it support custom maps?

>>5699916
post id

>>5699931
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-dies-motorhome-flies-through-17267420

Post your favorite load orders for GZDoom, you nerds. I wanna see em

>>5699956
sigil and brutal doom to give me the full 21st century doom package

>>5699962
I used to be confused as to why anyone would want this, but then I went on twitch and saw the webcams of people playing Sigil with Brutal Dewm

Then I understood

CRITICS ARE ASLEEP
POST ARROWS POINTING YOU WHERE TO GO IN MAPS

>>5699971
This is a cardinal sin of mapping.

>>5699972
My Quake map will now be nothing but arrows and spiders.

>>5699974
Call it something like "Realm of the Mad Man"

>>5699934
I've played the entirety of the original campaign, but as far as I know - there should be no issues with custom maps and expansion packs or mods. The only problem with PSP port is the loading times, everything else works fine and it plays well.

>>5699972
What about arrows arrows pointing in the wrong direction?

>>5699974
>the arrows point at the spiders

>>5699992
Good, so I can nope the fuck out when I see an arrow.

>>5699992
>the arrows point at you
>the spider was inside you all along

>>5700001

>>5700001

>>5699805
It Nuts.wad had a berserk pack then a UVMAX would be slightly more viable.