/vr/ - Retro Games

Even if this is just a console war thread, I'll say that cv64 has a lot of redeeming qualities, and a lot of the hate it gets comes from people having second hand opinions of it.

>>5684606
2/10 almost got baited

legacy of darkness is better and you're wrong

>>5684621
nope, lod has shittier redesigned levels, worse intro, no voice acting and you can't play as reinhardt on new saves

>>5684610
Smells more like anti-JRPGvaniaposting than console warring to me.

>>5684606
The platforming is kinda rough (which is a cardinal sin for a Castlevania game), but honestly I dig the overall experience. Not one of the great vanias, but far, far from the worst.

>>5684606
>Stop liking things I don't like!
So am I missing something or is /vr/ culture just "hate on whatever they like"

>>5684721
>>5684656
>>5684616
Seething iganiggers. Sotn will never be respected on /vr/.

>>5684719
This, OP is massively overcorrecting. CV64 is incredibly flawed but its still a great game with excellent atmosphere and art design.

>shitty fucking goddamn 3d platformer game
>best
Holy fuck, kids. Stop sucking the goddamn N64's dick just because it was your first console when you were a dumb kid and didn't know its games were fucking horrible.

>>5684883
At least it has actual platforming elements.
Also, kids who had the PS1 as first console are also a factor, so.

>>5684883
>CV64
>shitty
Spotted the Sonyscum that never even played the game.

>>5684890
>>5684916
My first console was a Pong console in the 70s, kid. Meanwhile, you're just blind to fucking terrible games.

Bet you think goddamn Mario 64 was LOLBESTGAMEEVER, too. And hell, I'm sure you're a fucking MGS fan, also, and that is goddamn garbage.

Gaming went to shit in the mid-90s.

>>5684758
I don't really care about Castlevania after it starts trying to be Metroid.
I just find it funny that this is the state of the board. It's just you guys flinging shit at each other because everywhere else has shoved shitflinging as far away as they can.

Does the 64 sequel improve on it significantly enough to be worth playing?

>>5684930
My recommendation is to beat CV64 with Reinhardt and Carrie, then move onto LoD and play the furry's campaign, and Henry's too I guess.

>>5684606
I liked the amount of content it gave us. especially the colloseum tower or whatever that stage was called. first you fight all the were-minibosses and then the ceiling collapses above the arena. it was actually quite based and I really liked it. I also liked how different protags had different stages and encounters. maybe I'll give it a replay but I do find the hitboxes and actual fighting floaty and wonky as fuck.
then again, SotN also had a fuckload of content.

Both games are garbage and this game is even worse

>>5684948
>the furry

Cornell really isn't as uncool as you try to make it seem.

>>5684606
Legacy of darkness is where is at. I feel like Sotn is a beta testing for the better castlevania games on the ds.

>>5684923
Shove an Atari Joystick up your ass you old pretentious prick. I played C64 as a kid too, and I knew it was shit back then, but you don't have to get your Boomer boxers in a wad when someone has a different opinion than you. Jesus.

castlevania died when it turned homo with androgynous characters.

>>5686830
Elaborate. CV64 is janky but fun, SotN gets boring too fast. I still wouldn't call either garbage though.

>>5684610
>second hand opinions of it.
wat
I played and beat it last year and thought it was middling at best

>>5687910
Then I wasn't talking about you. I'm talking about people that go "omg the nitro level"

>>5687923
To be fair, that part is shit. I'd rather Konami have left out Castle Center and the Villa levels and made the game pure action/platforming with no adventure elements.

>>5684923
>Mario is apparently incapable of walking in a straight line (no really-try it!)

>>5684923
this gotta be bait

>>5684606
AVGN said it's bad and he got no reason to lie.

>>5688042
when's James gonna revisit CV64 like he did Superman 64 and give it a proper review this time? Last one he ragequit at the mandragora part and missed a good chunk of the rest of the game.

>>5687979
As much as I enjoyed the pure action-platforming levels (even though Tower of Sorcery is sadistic), I liked the adventure/survival horror-ish elements in Villa and Castle hall.
The Nitro part isn't even hard, the level has a very clear layout for a route you can take to avoid having to jump while you carry the nitro. It's not really as bad as it seems at first.
Anyway, AVGN made that part very infamous. The problem isn't AVGN though, AVGN is a character that's not meant to be taken seriously. The problem is people who take the Nerd seriously and parrot his gags and catch phrases.

OP knows what's up.

>>5688092
>big, cheesy monsters
lol that image didn't age well

>>5684606
the level of cope in this post is too damn high

>>5688331
Looks badass

Why not just play Legacy of Darkness?

>>5688092
>ugly low-poly models and tiny vaseline-filtered textures good
>beautiful, hand-crafted pixel art bad

>>5688526
can't unlock Simon's clothers for Reinhardt or Maria's dress for Carrie.

>>5688526
Personally I like the original more. The fact that LoD added an escort mission to the hedge maze section never sat right with me. Even though it unquestionably made improvements to things like the camera, combat and platforming, I feel the overall structure of the game is worse off your first time through as Cornell compared to Reinhardt's campaign in the original release. Some of the changes just weren't for the better, but it sure seems like everyone else thinks they were. Maybe it just wasn't my cup of tea but I definitely enjoyed the original more.

I think I played this game once when I was a kid and instantly knew it was trash. Went right back to SM64.

>>5689434
I felt the same way as a kid and for a long time after that as well, but I honestly think Castlevania 64 has held up surprisingly well. Playing it for the first time since childhood not too long ago I was surprised that everything about it still felt pretty good, much better than I remember it feeling as a kid that kept falling in the fucking water.

Cv64 > Lod > Sotn saturn > Sotn ps1

>>5691249
I like your style

>>5688537
Video game journalists have always been drooling subhumans. Just in the 90s they didn't actually hate the medium of video games and the people who play them.

>>5691259
it's not surprising that games journalism is on it's way out with their garbage tier websites. When you attack the customer base the end isn't too long off

so which of these are actually worth playing?

>>5692286
>no msx cv
>no x68000 cv
>no haunted castle
>including a megaman clone in a castlevania collection

what the fuck konami

>>5684606
Wrong

>>5692324
Thats a port/remake of a 4th gen game, my dude. Doesnt count.

>>5691249
>Sotn saturn > Sotn ps1
Subhuman

>>5691249
PSP SOTN > Saturn SOTN > Japanese PS SOTN > localized PS SOTN

>>5693179
Still jelly of my Saturn-exclusive content, bruh?

>>5693206
Yeah, especially the lag

>>5693242
>lag
What lag? Did you play it in some shit emulator? Played it on a real Saturn and it runs fucking fine.

>>5693242
PSX version has cases of slowdowns too. Your point?

>>5688331
Why would that be a negative in a castlevania game anyway? That's how you know they were just grasping for something bad to say about it

>>5692286
All of them. Form your own opinions. What's with all the "worth playing" posts? Try lots of games, spend more time on the ones you like.

>>5684606
Back in elementary school my friend and I would play this believing the mansion + hedge maze was one of the most intense levels ever created. Despite its flaws there aren't many other games that make me feel as nostalgic as this one

>>5693282
You’re a fucking moron. It doesn’t “run fucking fine” at all.

>>5693306
Far, far less. Dolt.

>>5693282
It’s a botched port, guy. Uneven pixel scaling, lack of transparencies, copious amounts of slowdown, load times where there aren’t any in the PSX version. The added content clashes with the rest of the castle and is ultimately forgettable.

Even Iga is ashamed of the Saturn port.

>>5693949
>"clashes"
>cucking to iga
>exaggerating technical issues
sonyfag cope

>>5693969
Saturn cultist seething. I don’t even care much for SotN; favorite Metroidvanias are CotM and OoE.
That being said, seeing you lot defend shitty Saturn ports always gives me a good laugh.

>>5684923
Atariniggers have no shame
even then, i know you are lying because Sonytards likes to play the "im a bigger than all of ya'll" card

>>5684923
Atariniggers have no shame
even then, i know you are lying because Sonytards likes to play the "im a bigger grandpa than all of ya'll" card when losing the argument

>>5693282
lol are you serious right now?

>>5693282
It’s got a lot of slowdown and I have the physical Saturn copy running on the Saturn. Anytime there’s dust or mesh effects, it’s a massive frame drop. You can tell right from the part you start out as richter

>>5684719
Which are the worst?

>>5694004
You may not be a Sonyfag, but you still have an anti-Sega bias. How the fuck does a spooky prison or a spooky garden clash with the rest of the castle? Why should anyone care what IGA's opinion is when he didn't even direct SotN and is just an overrated hack like Keiji Inafune and Hideo Kojima? The Saturn version's not complete shit like you claim, you sound like you're butthurt you can't play it.

>>5694782
>The Saturn version's not complete shit like you claim
Not him but it is pretty shit. It's objectively a bad port.

>>5684923

I'm not a huge fan of mario 64. It was amazing at the time, but dons't have much replay value.

That being said i fucking love proper platformers. Katana Zero is my favorite new game