/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[6-17] Coofee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

[6-13] FUNC- Sm197 Six Textures released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61741

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-update-is-here-four-new-maps-not-a-joke/

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOClc6Svg4

[6-9] New MetaDoom update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1590#p1107375

[6-9] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[6-9] Digital Foundry review about Quake 2 RTX; explains a lot of shit about the source port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vXz9-C-AY

[6-8] Q2 RTX Models for Q2XP
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/addons/q2rtx-models-for-q2xp

[6-8] Anon updates Smooth Doom Lite
https://mega.nz/#!f5MAmQ5J!ADzufTEZ2COW5xRlblSrxZ42Qw3h-UU-Jjbe5wGN3iI

[6-7] GZDoom 4.1.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64964

[6-6] Fresh Supply keeps getting updated (1.9.5)
https://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791464555909/announcements/detail/1610514097382812678

[6-6] Quake 2 RTX released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1089130/Quake_II_RTX/

[6-4] Into The Storm - DBP12 Released
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1524/ti-doom-storm-dbp12-released


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[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_p8iwL2Vw&feature=youtu.be

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUHPmb76do

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rivZEQ2mNFg

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRZWx1kN9FpAShfjXcmS9Co9MNTYWLwD-hupYfhAduD5334g/viewform

[6-13] FUNC- Sm197 Six Textures released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61741

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-update-is-here-four-new-maps-not-a-joke/

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOClc6Svg4

[6-9] New MetaDoom update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1590#p1107375

[6-9] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[6-9] Digital Foundry review about Quake 2 RTX; explains a lot of shit about the source port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vXz9-C-AY

[6-8] Q2 RTX Models for Q2XP
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/addons/q2rtx-models-for-q2xp

[6-8] Anon updates Smooth Doom Lite
https://mega.nz/#!f5MAmQ5J!ADzufTEZ2COW5xRlblSrxZ42Qw3h-UU-Jjbe5wGN3iI

[6-7] GZDoom 4.1.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64964

[6-6] Fresh Supply keeps getting updated (1.9.5)
https://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791464555909/announcements/detail/1610514097382812678

[6-6] Quake 2 RTX released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1089130/Quake_II_RTX/

[6-4] Into The Storm - DBP12 Released
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1524/ti-doom-storm-dbp12-released


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First for DOOM the most based retro FPS

>>5668667
well, i mean
we'll see how things turn out in DE

>>5668656
> big arena with shotloads of shamblers and the spawn
hesu cristo

>>5668670
Brutal Doom has a new trailer to celebrate the v21 Gold release https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/brutal-doom-has-a-new-trailer-to-celebrate-the-v21-gold-release/

>>5668704
>(((PC Gamer)))

Damn, fucked in just the first 10 posts. Probably a new record for non troll threads.

>>5668704
you know I'm not the type to shit on Mark every time BD gets mentioned but stuff like this makes me think he is kinda done with the whole thing

>>5668707
Does it have a bad rep?

>>5668716
Don't encourage them. SERIOUSLY.

>>5668716
Yes. For promoting shitty vasyan compilations.

>>5668712
>those pants
>those arms
>that face
I must admit I chuckled.

does adding a furry self insert oc into my guarantee me a cacoward if i just make the game super easy?

Report and ignore.

>>5668712
>"My face is tomatoes!"

>>5668712
We can only hope.

>>5668727

>>5668738
I finally did it lads, I played QUAKE for the first time. But it just felt like Half Life but more primitive

>take screenshot in Quakespasm
>all I get is the desktop
>use screenshot command
>I get the console in the shot
I'm incompetent

also play Coffee Quake you cowards

ignore quote
I finally did it lads, I played QUAKE for the first time. But it just felt like Half Life but more primitive

>>5668751
I bound screenshot to P and it did fine for me.

>>5668704
Why people envy sgtmarkiv so much?

>>5668756

>>5668753
I mean HL was based on the Quake engine so yeah

I like the more arcadey approach though, In HL you get several stretches that get a bit tiresome every time I replay it

Also the quality of User made maps is astounding, the second map of Insomnia jam has several scripted sequences that make you go "WOAH nigga is this even quake anymore"
It goes to show that the new mod tools like progs_dump and AD allow mappers to try new things and squeeze even more juice out of this game

>>5668753
I like both games a lot.

>>5668764
I dont know much about quake modding but as i understand there's a ton of forks from the original engine. do user mods have to stick with the original engine?

>>5668779
Scrub

>>5668712
What are you talking about? This is perfect.

>>5668772
depends, most stuff is made for Quakespasm compatibility these days since its the more widespread sourceport
Mark V is making a lot of progress to support the same stuff Quakespasm does, last time I checked it could not run Ter Shibbolet but that was a while ago so its probably implemented by now

Darkplaces I would only recommend if you want to play Quake 1.5, it has a lot of lighting effects that are just ugly

>>5668754
works like a charm
thanks anon

>>5668756
Popularity.

>>5668779
>vr squints at a doom related image.gif

>>5668781
Oh lighten up, I actually like that ambush.

>>5668756
My humongous cock and rippling muscles
I uh
I mean, his, of course, haha

>>5668779
the pit has the best music

>>5668804
Make a Boom format episode.

what the fuck is with plutonia's feitsh for these twats

>>5668828
God help you.

>>5668828
to control the pace of the fight
you can't outrun bullets after all
i'm sure if zombiemen were a lot more accurate and slightly tougher, they would've used those

>>5668828
https://youtu.be/el72n7U4Pos?t=177

>>5668828
Please tell me you're not playing Plutonia for the first time with Final Doomer

>>5668840
i am, sorry, I just really liked the way the weps looked, more so than the other packs in final doomer

>>5668704
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea

>>5668848
ayy

>>5668716
Everything more popular/that manages to escape the doom entitled manchild community has a bad rep here

>>5668727
Speaking of autistic manchildren, are you going to cry and make this post in every thread from now on?

>>5668848
That imp looks straight out of Timeslaughter

>>5668756
>People hate on Mark for telling a kid to kys because it's not cool to bully mentally ill people
>Mark is mentally ill and should be bullied
Yep, sounds like envy, because logic sure as heck doesn't work here

>>5668756
Seems like jealousy and hateboners, mostly stemming from a feeling of him having not earned the success at getting his mod all over the place that other mods must deserve more.

I dunno though, I've long since stopped trying to really follow the modern modding community shit, seems like one big personal marketing dramafest these days.

On the topic of retro FPS revivals
Aquanox is getting a new game

>>5668867
For a second I thought Anachronox was getting a new sequel.

Any examples of a WAD set underwater? I’m curious how they handled it.

>>5668890
pirate Doom has a level set inside a sunken ship

>>5668857
>not paying constant attention to Mark and actually diverting it towards other modders is "He should be bullied >:C"
Hello, Marky boy

how hard would it be to port the new levels from the sega saturn port of quake?

>>5668890
duke 3d e3m2 flood zone

>>5668890
Arcadia Demade

>>5668848
Anyone have that .gif by Shivers where Doomguy plays with action figures? That's what this makes me think of.

>>5668890
Object 34 Sonar sort of, in that it's an underwater base.

I drew this for you all, anons.

>>5668756
i don't know about what drama mark puts himself through and quite frankly i don't care but i'm ultimately convinced that the animosity towards BD mostly comes from sour grapes from other modders and purists who were never even gonna touch the mod in the first place.

>>5668764
i like quake's level design & atmosphere more that HL but i prefer HL's enemies & weapons more quake.

quake's enemies were too boring.

>>5669000

>>5669000
did mark actually take code and assets from other mods without proper credit?

because I recall something about him getting mad at the Project Brutality dudes and If that was is case he has no grounds to bitch about it

>>5668997
Sweet.

>>5668997
cute!

>>5669012
It's a mixed bag, spawns are just a pain in the ass but I like the ogres, they are pretty versatile for a low tier enemy and having some of them raining grenades from above never fails to light a fire under you ass

also who thought it was a good idea to give the vores a smarter homing projectile, those things can really surprise you sometimes

>haha me so mart I take cover
>spiky ball rounds the corner

>>5668997
Put him back into Hell, that's where he belongs.

Some people still wait for their boxes despite Sigil is already yesterday's news.

>>5669015
>did mark actually take code and assets from other mods without proper credit?
yeah it was gun assets or something like that.

on the topic of asset flips which came first PB or trailblazer because i noticed that they had the same handgun.

>>5669015
He got mad that the PB were leaking test builds he was giving them, to help them get nearer to releasing quicker.

PB being the same dudes who wanted to force their own contributes to sign a NDA, were shocked that every fucker knew what their "secret" github was because they used the same fucking names they use elsewhere, and had their Discord purged because the dude in charge of PB uses the same password everywhere and gave his Steam details to some random promising him free games.
>>5669049
PB is the asset flip of all asset flips.

>>5668997
A tad random, but nice nevertheless.

>>5669073
Doesn't PB use a whole bunch of stuff from complex doom? Does complex doom use stuff from other mods?

>>5669093
Both take stuff from all over the place, Complex Doom's mines are straight of Dark Forces.

>>5668848
watch as every game journo praises the mod for having a playable female character because absolutely no other mod has done it before.

>>5669138
Meanwhile half the community has been blowing Lt Typhon hard for the same thing.

>>5669142
have they never heard of fucking Demonsteele
meh, probably because anime=bad or something

>>5669138
believable.
didn't metadoom and hideous destructor come up with the idea also?

>>5669138
>>5669152
>>5669153
Female player characters are nothing remotely new, they've been in even from the point where they were just basic asset swaps.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/bgcdm1_2
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/gsc_rr14

>>5669153
Yeah, but the idea is old as hell, there's .wads for that going back to the 1990s.

I was playing WWHC_DIAZ.wad like 10+ years ago, and that was a bit more of a character, vs just a skin.

>>5669138
many others before those two also, but don't expect gamejournos to know or be able to find out. they are terminally retarded when it comes to doing research.

>>5668667
So I want to play the best version of power slave which I think is the saturn one. But I don't want to shell out crazy money for a saturn to play it and I've been told emulation isn't good. Any ideas?

Coffee Quake is fun

friggin' Quack mappers flexing their speedweiners

>>5669227

>>5669229

>insane gazebo is back
praise the gods
i wond- yep it's gorgeous

>>5669227
How do they do it, bros?

Just finished 3 heurs d'agonie. It was very good except the last two maps which were swarms of monsters and multiple cyberdemons and masterminds which sucks, but it was a very good megawad.

>>5668704

>>5668667
i don't believe the new c. keen is doomguy simply because doomguy doesn't look like a ginger

i think i created a monster

>>5669242
there are a couple of so-so maps but generally even the ugly ones play really well

>>5669307
Neet.

>>5668890
Spooktober has a spooky flooded base level with some underwater segments

>>5668890
Ocean 2024
protect your face

>>5668890
Whole third episode of Joy of Mapping 5

>>5669312
now if i knew how to draw irises

>>5668997
>Tom Nook puts villiagers in deep debt to pay off his own deep debt to Doomguy after he saved Tom's life
It all makes sense now

>Archimedean Dynasty
>Aquanox
>Aquanox 2
should I give these a try? I know there’s a third Aquanox but it seems like it was a PlayStation exclusive.
How broad do you guys go with the term FPS? Would Wing Commander count?

Why zoomers love half life so much?
Fps gamers only cared about the mods. Only media shills praised it.

>>5669470
Zoomers don’t know what half life is or care about it at all.

>>5669470
>zoomers
>half-life
What? Did I miss something?

>>5669302
>doomguy doesn't look like a ginger

>>5669470
go back to /v/ reseterafag, you're not fooling anyone.

>>5669479
>>5669480
>>5669012
>>5668753
KYS VALVE DRNES

>>5669487
have sex

>>5669470
You'd be surprised how many people liked it when it came out. But im guessing you arent here to talk about games you like huh

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466785095
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466779042
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466780843
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466782079
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466783459
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/466774120/#466790253
This kills the hlcuck

>>5669513
Blow it out your ass.

>>5669513
Half-life isn’t even relevant anymore, you’re hating on a game that doesn’t matter.
What did it contribute? The source engine and physics puzzles?

HAHA
YOU FOOLS
I'M HAVING FUN WITH RETRO FPS GAME
AND THERE IS NAUGHT YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME

The only games that are bad as hl are cs, halo, goldeneye, perfect dark, cod and serious sam.
All kiddie garbage.
Ut99 and cs were low skill garbage for people that could not make it in quake.

>>5669540
see >>5669516

>>5668667
This is by far my favorite OP picture.
t. prot

>>5669523
It ruined the fps genre with cinematic shit and spawned the cancer that cs is.

would you join chernabog's cult /vr/?

>Doom Eternal will officially confirm whether or not doomslayer is doomguy
man this just has to be a marketing decoy, 'play our game to find out and have that firsthand confirmation!'. the whole world sans a couple stubborn morons is in on the fact already from QC.

honestly if they pull out a last ditch effort to say otherwise they'll never hear the end of it. it would be such an astronomically bad storytelling decision I just cannot fathom it.

I guess the janny tranny will deleted the posts and ban me again.

>>5669561
>caring about the story
calm down turbo-nerd

> number of people discussing half-life: 0
> anon: HALF-LIFE SUCKS AND YOU SUCK FOR LIKING IT
i don't understand

>>5669579
shush you

>>5669559
>spelling it wrongfully as chernabog
>and not as GLORIOUS TCHERNABOG
OOOOOOOOOH THATS DISTURBING

>>5669579
that complaint doesn't amount to caring about the entire story itself you dumb nigger. it's just a comment.

>>5669524
there will never be a proper quake sequel

>>5669561
have another possum meme

>>5669594
I'd rather let Quake rest and live on with the community maps than have the wrong dev take a stab at a new game

doubt we will get as lucky as we got with Doom

So any news on that mod that anon was working on?

The one that was some sort of "level beautifier"?

>>5669582
>BRAAAAP

>>5668890
The entire third episode of Heretic, technically.

>>5669646

>>5669625
>>5669594
quake is in the same boat as unreal in that people only know it for the multiplayer so every sequel has to basically be a derivative of Q3A or UT.

>inb4 quake 4
how many people actually remember quake 4? also how did the strogg end up being the face of quake?

>>5669594
Anybody else been seeing rumors around that Machine Games will develop the next Quake? That'd be a fate worse than death.

>>5669659
TNC must have been cancer on a disc because i remember that everyone liked TNO & TOB and weren't those made by them?

>>5669629
still working on it, didnt upload anything for saturday bc im focusing on improving the code

>>5669663
same company different team

>>5669659
>>5669663
Machine games wants to do Quake next, is up on the air if they actually could
who knows, maybe Id will do it after Eternal

Indeed they shat the bed on TNC and as far as I'm concerned that's enough to not thrust them with the IP
plus Youngblood looks like it will follow the same trend

>>5668753
Kys hlcuck
>>5669523
>>5669585
Zoomers still think is one of the best fps.

Okay, so how would I go about an actor returning to its idle/spawn state after killing their enemy?

E.g. when I have a friendly with me and the enemy is killed, it will stay in the See state but I want it to stand still.

>>5669670
eh one bad game isn't enough to condemn a company for me and the episode they did for quake was ok.

>>5669138
>>5669191
don't you two have your own board to yourselves?

>>5669227
>>5669229
>>5669232
God that looks gorgeous, thanks for reminding me.
Thanks for reminding me to jump on that shi

>>5669673
maybe you should stop letting gabe live in your head rent-free.

The phantom sentence

>>5669138
>>5669191
don't you two have your own board to yourselves?

>>5669696
Maybe you should stop replying and it'll stop. Once it's done crying about HL it'll switch back to another gimmick like crying about Combined Arms.
>>5669227
>>5669229
>>5669232
God that looks gorgeous, thanks for reminding me.

>>5669674
Having it rely on A_JumpIfCloser in a loop for it to not go idle?

>>5669710
I don't know, I would like to not interfere with the "regular" enemy detection.

I was also just thinking about putting an if statement in the see state and ask A_Look if it's seeing anything. Basically if A_Look detects something, go to attack, else go back to Spawn. But I don't know how to do that or if it is even doable.

>>5669697
consider yourself reminded, marine

>>5669723
Is this nearest linear mipmap?

It looks crisp yet chunky and pretty.

>>5669745
Cooffe Quake comes with its own autoconfig it seems, but yeah it has this enabled:


gl_texturemode "GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR"

>>5669718
I guess you could have it use a_lookex to jump to a mirrored spawn that sits there if it doesn't see anything.

>>5668756
He upsets the right sort of people.

>>5669546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkHkdu5IEI

>>5669773
>unironically posting social media screencaps

You have to go back.

>>5669786
He asked why people envy him - I answered. I didn't or don't agree with it. Don't shit yourself.

>>5669786
get the stick out of your ass, mouthbreather

>>5669786

What was wrong with his post though

>>5669786

>>5669540
You sound like a colossal faggot who just regurgitates edgy opinions from 4chan

>>5669796
Okay that's pretty funny actually

>Scythe map23
is this supposed to be fun?

>>5669810
It was pretty fun
with GMOTA

>>5669697
don't you have a mom to be crying to?

what are some actual fun map packs or WADs for vanilla doom that aren’t dick breakingly hard for the sake of being hard?

>>5669796
>and verification to follow much much later
kills me every time
term, you're a cheeky fucker

>>5669773
That screen always makes me wonder if it's possible to have somebody write a list like that without the Chinese whispers half-truths getting in there.

>>5669697
don't shit the bed.

>>5669751
good to see someone else prefer linear mipmapping over none. honestly only having the filter removed is enough for me.

Imagine spending so much time bitching only to get BTFO so hard you delete your posts

>>5669773
the biggest issue with brutal doom was all the new kids who refused to play anything but brutal doom, other than that it's hardly the most egregious example of a pigheaded modder who steals shit
and for what it's worth, the doom community is probably more healthy now than it would have been if brutal doom hadn't caused a new wave of interest, i've played some good maps by people that got into doom because of brutal shit

>>5669756
Okay, this is weird - whenever I test it as a friendly it won't go back to idle, but when I let it kill me, it does it.

>>5669837
Thing is that people read a list like that and just accept it all readily, to the point that you get PC Gamer casuals happily calling him "really sick and nuts".

>>5669850
Agree, plus it's fair to say modern id are more-than aware of it https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/491746826375417857

>>5669837
>without the Chinese whispers half-truths getting in there.
such as?

When does a mod stop being a mod? If the assets used are all built from scratch but it still uses the Doom engine is it it’s own game or just a mod?

>>5669870
I'd say if it doesn't require doom/freedoom wads to run, then it would be its own game.

>>5669870
Heavy mod at heart but if it's different enough then most people will probably treat it as its own thing.

>>5669696
Maybe you should stop sucking gaben's dick

>>5668756
>shit coding
>awful balance and weird bugs
>ugly, unfitting asshats
>already led to an annoying fanbase and game journos that don't do much research praising it
>a comment from romero being taken out of context
>the author himself getting into drama on its own (see him and the pb dev)
>author doesn't even have that much of a creative background like other modders do
>most hate towards the mod comes from random /vr/ anons while other modders don't actually give a shit
i swear to god
of all the replies this post got, none of this was mentioned
whatever happened to "just search in the /vr/ archives"?
for fuck's sake, bd suffers from not being judged like it's an actual mod
bd's popularity also doesn't help that it's based on second hand info and lack of research

>>5669153
>metadoom
that's the one mod i'm surprised isn't spawning any clickbait articles
even samsara was on kotaku once and i'm sure some people think qcde did the fps crossover thing first

>everyone who plays doom uses gameplay overhaul mods even on vanilla iwads
whats the point? i thought you all like doom

>>5669773
I still remember 0.L
Never forget
Never forgive

>>5669797
>Wah wah dont shit on my casual games

Did Tom Hall get shafted from id or was he actually a problem?

>>5669898
The shine of his forehead was negatively affecting productiveness of other workers.

>>5669901

>>5669901
>tfw have a head like tom and balding too
>see what bald tom looks like now
holy shit bros thats going to be me. im scared

>>5669898
>>5669901

>>5669898
go back to your fucking colony antposter

>>5669858
>>5669850
for all the shit we give at mark, it's not like even the people behind works we enjoy have some moments where they act dick-ish on their own
besides, graf zahl worries me a lot more than mark because he's in a more important position in comparison

>>5669932
thanos' ass must have good wifi

how would an enemy that transforms/disguises as level props work in a doom mod?

>>5669952
it would be adorable

>>5669958
for you

>>5669952
like the mimic medikit in rekkr

>>5669858
>Thing is that people read a list like that and just accept it all readily, to the point that you get PC Gamer casuals happily calling him "really sick and nuts".
It self-perpetuates really, people will tend to accept anything is true if they've been told somebody is literally the devil.
>>5669864
The kid thing wasn't a kid, and it was some dude who confirmed later that he was joking about with him.

The for reals gore thing is all over the place, some stuff indicates it wan't ever actually a part of BD but an addon, some that it never made it that far, others like a different screenshot from the same person as that other one try to pin the blame on Doom/Doom 2 sprites that were digitized or traced from real stuff on Mark, somehow.

>>5669952
like >>5669981, or there was some webm I remember of a health pack that transformed into an arch vile.
may have been in that dehacked mod with the 2 headed chaingunners on arachnotrons. can never remember it's name. something hell something?

>>5669992
beyond reality?
i mean like an enemy in something like colorfull hell

>>5669952
Lights that shock you if you're near and looking the other way, bitey backpacks, maybe fake doors if there's a way to attach a flat enemy to a wall and have it use a door texture for a sprite, maybe even disguised as a fake end of level room.

>>5669992
>>5669994
All Hell Is Breaking Loose.
arch vile medkit might not actually be in that was though.

>>5669582

>>5670013
*wad

I remember monsters disguised as the skullkeys.

>>5670017
Looked better with just the eyes bleeding

>>5670021
Alright. Keep in mind those are monster closets.

>>5670020
Lost soulkeys?

>>5670026
Nah, they were similar to the archvile but there was a custom sprite for each one, plus transforming sheets.

>>5669932
is the a Ren plush? my dad had one of those

>>5670020
>>5670026
I've just got this idea now of skullkeys that turn into lost souls that you've got to chase down and kick the shit out of to get them to turn back into keys.

>>5670040
see this is actually fun and i proposed something like this for the skull orbs some time ago.

>you kick ass for an incel

>>5669898
He famously didn't get on with John Carmack, apparently pushing for things Carmack felt weren't needed or were too much hassle to implement.

Still, without him being that argumentitive, a lot of id games wouldn't have turned out the way they did, Wolf3D wouldn't have had secrets, Doom wouldn't have had teleporters or flying cacodemons, things would have been very strange.

>>5670048
Alternate timeline Ultimate Doom where Tom Hall left right off the bat. The negawad.

>>5670017
god that is a disgusting mesh of colors

>>5669561
>the whole world sans a couple stubborn morons is in on the fact already from QC
The game nobody played?

It has come to this
The final episode
THE ELDER BEANS

Time to teach that she-bitch what a true roast looks like

>>5669676
Right, but are the people who made that Quake episode still working at Machine Games?
That's the thing, there's multiple teams in the company, one made TNO and TOB, another team did TNC and is making YB.

What would be great would be if the TNO team had their hand at trying to make a Quake game, that'd be tits, but people fear the other team that sucks getting their hands on it.

>>5670082
if people talked about videos games only after playing them, 90% of all video game discussion would vanish

>>5670091
correction, 90% of /v/ would disappear

>>5670085
why would they let that team carry on after the flop that was their last game

>>5670092
90% of all video game discussion would vanish

>>5670092
If you think that's bound to /v/, you are either extremely ignorant, extremely naive, or extremely optimistic.

>>5670093
Because Zenimax clearly has some very questionable judgement at times.

>thought I would be cool and do some gunslinging like in HND or Read Dead
>end up just beelining to my death
>fuck up the hammer by accident
>get popped multiple times
>instantly turn into so much of a joke that the zombies start congratulatory rifle whipping each other like bros in the locker room

>>5670128
Nigga learn to lean

>>5670128
>And then he charged towards us with a revolver! The absolute madlad!
>He kept fucking up the hammer
>He spilled his rounds all over the floor
>Didn't even make it past the first room!

[Continuous laughter from Stormtrooper bantz at the Deimos Bar]

>>5669561
>upcoming game sequel will include details about the backstory
wow id what is this fucking marketing evil. the marketing department is behind this for sure

>>5670128
i believe in you anon

>>5670145
>can throw weapons at enemies to stun them
i learn more about HD every day

>>5670128
>run towards dudes shooting at you
Yeah, that'll happen.

Alright, I remembered there was a lean feature
>>5670145
What the fuck? Gray Fox?

>>5670145
Fucking slick.

>>5670145
Eric you stylin'

>>5670145
Eric flexing his HD weenie

>>5670145
Where are your new Hideous Destructor youtube videos you hack fraud?
I love you btw

>>5669561
They said they'd drop hints, but did go into more detail

>>5670175
no no, that's mostly shooting
this is flexing

>>5670192
never EVER because streaming is easier but i haven't been doing that as much as i'd like to either, sorry
i did have some thoughts about putting together more properly produced videos covering monster behaviors and weaknesses, because unlike the core mechanics that keep getting overhauled on a whim, the bestiary doesn't see such radical changes often
hopefully i can find the time for it
maybe i'll just start with a quick video regarding critical hits and how to use melee effectively, learning about those two made the biggest difference in my play

>>5670261
>a quick video regarding critical hits and how to use melee effectively
That certainly would be very interesting to watch. I've been playing HD on and off for some time and I don't know anything about that.

>>5670261
some based individual made and posted these here some time ago, how accurate are they now?
https://postimg.cc/gallery/jol67otc/

>>5670261
Honestly, if you just uploaded your streams after they were done, that'd be enough for me.

>>5670265
if i don't get around to it, the gist of crits is to shoot center mass to deal more damage, though a couple enemies are different
using melee optimally requires a crazy amount of inputs that i mostly don't bother with, but the damage is calculated from movement speed and direction, camera movement, footing, and landing a headshot
generally, sprinting towards your opponent and swinging the camera as you punch their head is good enough

>>5670269
those are mine and they're pretty outdated already
the monster one isn't so bad, but i'd like to go into more detail than what suits a meme image and be able to show things off in action
plus i've already learned new things like the exact details of cyberdemon aiming

>>5670306
I'm curious, why do you prefer the bullpup Liberator in your loadouts to the long version? (As far as I've been able to tell, at least). The lighter weight? The less awkward cornering?

>>5668667
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
>Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
anyway to get these infographic uncompressed? imgur fucks it to hell

>>5670348
open the image in a new tab

>>5670339
the big thing for me is that you can put it in a backpack
the high weight of the gun and ammo makes it hard to keep other weapons around, and the liberator isn't quite so all-encompassing like a vulcanette or thunderbuster so you can't just run it alone

>>5670370
I see, that's understandable
What kinda thunderbuster loadouts do you run nowadays, btw? Don't remember seeing you try one in a while

>>5670082
>what is online discussion
>what are images

>>5670128
>6 slow and weak shots
>ignore staying in cover
>walk into rifle fire
What are you DOING?!

>>5670136
I think his point is more about the needless assurance that id claims doom eternal will have when most people don't need it.

>>5670373
i cooked this up some time ago, but i haven't really field-tested it yet
the thunderbuster isn't actually a favorite of mine, as awesome as it is
it's just not good enough against bosses and too heavy to bring another weapon for that purpose, plus it's really dangerous in close quarters, demanding another weapon for that too

>>5670386
Yeah, you're right. When I use it, it's mostly for flavor/because it's fun/because I found it lying around and it's free kills without wasting my own ammo

>>5670386
Up for a challenge? Medium length hitscanner map of your choice.
>backpack
>2 pistols, plenty of ammo
>1 medkit, 4 stimpacks
>no armor allowed
>2 grenades
>only allowed to pick up pistols, ammo and meds. not zerk
>no magic
Haven't played for a long long time so I don't know if this can be done or not. BIG FAT CHALLENGE

>>5670386
The thunderbuster is cool as fuck but I still struggle understanding it sometimes. I think primary fire does the thing where you aim at a spot, and then a second later it explodes. Secondary fire just does the microwave attack, right?

Oh my god ROTT 2013 is so fucking bad. They try way too hard to replicate the light-heartedness of ROTT. All the characters wisecrack like shitty Duke ripoffs, and they burp or fart after every single porridge (health pickup). Fucking hell.

>>5670472
It really doesn't capture the spirit of the original, which is a shame.

Even mechanically, it launched with shit checkpoints.

>>5670472
Good music though.

>>5670405
got about halfway through e2m2 before two babuins in a row chewed me up
i did take out two marines along the way without getting hit
if i'd ran down the nukage path and jumped to the exit i probably would've made it instead of trying to do the level legitimately

Admit it zoomers goldeneye, perfect dark cs, half life and ut99 suck.
Casual shit.

>>5670502
Nice, my dude. Figure this might be too rough so I'm going to sneak a double barrel and 6 shells into your pack for emergencies. No shell pickups tho. One door buster too if you need it. Let's call that a bundle of dynamite. Rad suits are fine if the map demands it.

You are The Lone Gunslinger.

What do we think of DUSK?

>>5670502
Thanks to the smaller size and removal of infinite height, babuins really feel like demonic attack dogs when compared to the vanilla pinkies. They latch on to you and lock you down, while the zombies line up and take aim.

>>5670532
It’s good.

>>5670532
We think it's not retro and should only be used as a comparative in rare instances in this thread.
Also this is tired lazy trolling and you should do something better with your time. Build a birdhouse or something.

>>5670494
Yeah, from what I played the only redeeming aspect was the soundtrack. Pretty kickass but faithful.

>>5670521
Those games all came out before zoomers were born, you fucking idiot, they didn't play them and barely know of them.
You're looking for millennials and generation x, zoomers were born in the 2000s.

>>5670532
Not retro, not Quake.

>>5670547
Casual

>>5670547
You'd be surprise how many there are who think they're experts on shit from the 90s.

Blood is shit compared to Duke.

>>5670563
If you have blood in your feces, I think you should talk to your doctor.

>>5670545
That’s what happens when you get Hulshult to make the soundtrack.

>>5669219
Late but Powerslave EX is good enough

>>5670550
>>5670541
>Not retro
It's LITERALLY retro, you uneducated fucks, as in a thing styled after old conventions.

It is, however, a new game, and does NOT fully belong on this board.

If the whole Tchernobog thing didn't happen, I have a feeling all those cultists would have had tremendously successful careers as snipers, hitmen, and cooks

>>5670597
It's not retro as in what the "r" in '"/vr/" stands for you pedantic jackass. What the fuck even is context?

Blood still sucks.

>>5670628
Thank you for your contribution to the thread

Its not even the best fps of 1997 lmao.

>>5670639
We at 4channel very much value your opinion on the matter. Thank you for your feedback, Anonymous poster

>>5669870
If the assets are original or legally owned you can call it a game now that GZDoom no longer requires a Doom wad to run. Look up Sharpshooter 3D, Hedon, Forestale, Memoirs of Magic or Membrane

>>5669663
The gameplay is pretty good but parts where you actually get to play the game are few and far between in favor of some goofy ass unfinished story

Even goldeneye and shadow warrior are better.

>>5670682
We at 4channel very much value your opinion on the matter. Thank you for your feedback, Anonymous poster

Would a mancubus be dull and leathery, or shiny and greasy?

>>5668756
I don't like Mark, but now i wanna support him and promote him just to spite retards like this.

>>5668837
huh ha hah haa

>>5668848

>>5670554
Even people from 90s aren'texperts on the 90s.

sector toilet spotted

>>5670719
>yer turlet

>>5670719
That's merely a sector water tank. Fake AND gay.

>>5669884
Seems to be the way the community operates these days, which is a shame.
>most hate towards the mod comes from random /vr/ anons while other modders don't actually give a shit
a lot of the modders that do bitch about it (and other mods), reserve most of it to a handful of not-so-private discord servers, where it's kinda fucking incessant and gets in the way of useful shit.

>>5670472
Try Return of the triad, it's a Doom TC.

What are some /comfy/ podcasts to listen to while Doom modding?

>>5670804
Been meaning to play that. Apparently the creator went on to be the dev of that retro-style FPS Amid Evil.

>>5670719
RR has some of the best textures.

>>5670808
it does a surprisingly decent job at playing like ROTT, but without the Wolf3D maps made of blocks.

>>5670807
Intermission RIP IN PEAS

>>5670719
>>5670728
Semi-sector toilets are disgusting.

>>5670823
We're gonna need some fresh rolls

Doom mapping question.

How do I create a lighting effect such as pic related in a large cavern?
See how the lighting slowly goes up the wall and kind of tapers off towards the roof?

Lots of dynamic lights feels like a copout and woudln't be that effective anyway I feel.

> thirsty internet gf shopkeep in guncaster
> but actually someones pre-existing OC
what the fuck?

>>5670836
You can't.

>>5670836
Use UDMF map format and go to sector -> colors. The ceiling, floor, upper wall, & lower wall colors can be modified independently, and a gradient lighting effect will be achieved if the wall halves are different shades.
>>5670845
Wrong.

>>5670736
>>5668756
Mark got banned in most places not because of his fanbase, but because he very often engaged in flamewars and pissing contests. Initially mods were lenient about him, giving him slap on the wrist, or only banning him for a week or two each time, but eventually they got fed up and issued him a final warning... Which he promptly ignored, stirring up drama just a few days later and got permabanned for good.

He's also a lazy shit that get praised by the crowd for polishing the same turd for literal years. V20 and the campaign came out all the way back in 2015 for fucks sake, and he has fuckall to show for the time spent polishing that turd

He also bragged everywhere how he gets $500 from his patreon by doing nothing, and how he now dropped his regular job and lives entirely off his patreonbucks because Brazil, and how everyone else is a cuck for not doing the same.

Well, that's it about Mark really. He's an obnoxious /v/tard attention-whore.
Regarding the mod itself
>>5669773
I can answer the last one. I've said it before - it gives great feedback according to player actions. Enemies react to both the weapon they were shot with and location they were shot at in different ways.
That's the basis for visual feedback in an FPS - weapons, and how enemies react to being shot with weapons.
Doom was fairly limited in that regard, only offering blood splats and pain flinch.
Quake added additional feedback to grunts and ogres. Quake 2 added wounded skins for enemies.
Modern games make enemies flinch in different ways under fire depending on where you shoot them.

Brutal Doom does the same for OG Doom, and that is the main reason it is satisfying to play on the basic level - it makes shooting itself more fun.
Mark should have stopped right there, but he keeps piling shit on top of a good idea. And thinking people are less willing to dive into a mound of shit to get to that one good idea. Mark literally ruins his own mod.

(cont)

>>5670858
Ok, I followed half of that (and I use UDMF).
But don't the walls have to be "different walls", like it's reverse terracing up the wall?

I never understood that part with the 3 textures, I just thought there is the 1 on the surface you use and the rest is bullshit. Which is a very brainlet way to look at it.

>>5670880
(cont)
The mod itself is buggy as fuck, with bugs dating all the way back to v19 (year 2012) still not being fixed, despite Mark claiming they were.

And he just can't stop making the mod. He gets his patreonbuck from it, and according to himself, his own life now depend on his ability to come up with new shit to inject into the mod.
He really should have stopped back at v19 and make maps/campaigns instead - he's much better at that than he is at making BD.
Not to mention that he also got surpassed in that regard with Project Brutality.

>>5670883
Every line can have 3 textures on each side, one for what's under the floor, one for what's above the ceiling, and one for what's inbetween. That's irrelevant to this method because it lights the entire line regardless of what part you're using.

>>5670891
He should work on a new project, BD is basically done at this point. Also, agreed on the levels since he churns out maps when he wants to at a speed that would take others months.

He needs to take a bunch of ayahuasca or whatever they have in Brazil and move in a new direction.

>>5670858
>Wrong.
Anon, you forgot the link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e3O2wQe4BKo

>>5670902
I see, I'll try and create what you're talking about later but can you explain it in another way?

>>5670880
What perplexes me is that he's gotten banned from everything, is basically isolated away from the largeest majority of the community, and yet some people persistently go looking for his shit to get angry over again.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

>>5670915
He's still on Doomworld, somehow.

>>5670880
I do like that you can get different dismemberment animations depending of where you aim. And that sometimes when the Zombiemen get their leg blown off, instead of just bleeding out, they can pull out their pistol and keep on shooting you.

>>5670915
It's really hard to get banned on Doomworld.
You have to be a literal spambot for that.
Everything else they just boot to a squared off forum section and thats it.

>>5670920
Mark now opeerates on his facebook, and posts updates on MODDB, which is where most people who are not in the Doom community (including game journos) go for mods. So people just don't see much of anything else than BD.

>>5670907
He literally can't, since his livelyhood depends on it.

>>5670927
Main problem is - overlong enemy death animations (including chaingunned zombies/imps, or crawling zombies) are still solid and soak up bullets after they effecively die. Especially annoying with Cacos, Barons andKnights.

>>5670907
Extermination Day is okay, but I think he can do better

>>5670907
>>5670930
He said he was going to work on a Heretic mod after his map and some special version of BD was out.

>>5670935
Yeah, that can be a bit of a problem.

>>5670912
Which part, the lighting effect? You need to select the sector you want, open the colors tab, and give the upper and lower wall halves different colors. If the floor is supposed to be illuminating lava, give the upper half a darker shade so it's darker near the ceiling. And either leave the lower half at default white or make it yellow/red/whatever.

>>5670939
Heretic? Now I’m a bit curious.

>BD
Besides the "stealth" update for monsters, have there been any significant gameplay changes going on with them in order to keep up with the ever growing feeling of you being an overpowered juggernaut? I last played it when one of the first v21 tests came out and all I saw was even more needless fluff and mayhem. Don't really want to go back and try again without good reason.

>>5670947
Nah, just plug in Project Brutality. High tier monsters will clamp down your OPness.

So when the hell is Ion Maiden releasing it's full version?

I've been waiting for ages.

>>5670948
I remember trying to play PB on anything higher than Man and a Half for the first time. It hurt.

>>5670950
Pretty much looks like a bunch of modders/community members working at a leisurely pace to make a hyper ultra mega passionate project. Without a deadline. Or even pay? Expect another demo in 2025.

>>5670950
Isn't there a lawsuit hot on 3D Realms's asses at the moment, over the name?

>>5670960
Yeah, but I don’t think it’s going anywhere. There’s no way a band can claim copyright over a name, and similar sounding names, when they named themselves after a torture device.

>>5670957
They're getting paid by 3DRealms, and have their own development company, so it's not exactly a passion project.

They still keep delaying it though.

>>5670962
You can, however, claim trademarks, which they have had for a long time now.

>>5670841
pls explain

>>5670979
Don't encourage him.

>>5670979
It's the OC of some friend of his off furaffinity.

There's been a lot of overcompensating furfags going on the attack lately because of a few "I told you so" posts.

>>5670981
>There's been a lot of overcompensating furfags going on the attack lately because of a few "I told you so" posts.

>>5670981
>furaffinity.

Proceed to the exit.

>>5670981
>>It's the OC of some friend of his off furaffinity.
why tho

BUT WAIT I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SEPARATE ART FROM THE ARTIST, THIS ISN'T BASED AT ALL /v/ROS

>>5670091
this

>>5670986
But what if the art is shit, and the man is shittier

>>5670983
>>5670986
right on cue

>>5670984
its true though
> https://www.furaffinity.net/view/29937757/
> features my demon incubus, Sabbatha
> Cygnis, my friend's dragon from Guncaster

>>5670986

>>5670986
>>/v/

>>5670991
But what if your tastes and opinions are shit?

Wouldn't HFY fags play a different mod anyway?

>>5670994
>overcompensating
>when a literal ban-evading shitter derailed the previous thread over it because not everyone was bitchy enough to give a shit

>>5670996
>>5670997
>called out

>>5671001
>HFY fags
the what now

>>5671001
/v/edditors and shitweebs wouldn't anyway. They'd rather bitch and moan rather than focus on shit that doesn't butthurt them.

>>5671004
'Humanity fuck yeah', and I'm not sure why this mod is living in shitposter-kun's head rent-free.

>>5670719
I still have no idea how to have fun in this game
Am I playing it wrong?

>>5671007
because he wants to turn the thread into another ebin cringe thread straight from /v/eddit

>>5671007
That would just be Doom.

>>5671009
Get the titguns, shoot things with a pair of tits.

>tfw Doom 2 reloaded is better than vanilla.

>>5671007
when did furries become 'on vogue'

I'll let you in on a secret, guys. Don't you tell anyone.
every single character in fiction is someone's OC

>>5671013
Nah, HFY isn't about "humans cool, aliens drool", it's about "We humans are amazing, because we breath OXYGEN and eat PEPPERS and drink ALCOHOL, none of which those made up aliens can do"

"I'm Jason!"

>>5671020
difference is if they are being used / were made for the their creators weird erp purposes
for some reason this exact shit attracts dumb furfags
they will throw money at and gobble up anything

>>5671030
Usually due to a desperate need to cram the shit that exists only in their head into the world in some way, shape or form.

>>5671007
>>5671026
is there something wrong with being human
should people pretend to not be

>>5671038
Not at all.

THIS IS TOTALLY DOOM RELATED BTW

reminder: this is exactly what that shitter wanted, note it started posting it's fucking /wg/ synthwave thread tier maps the moment it's crybaby post about it got deleted

>>5671046
FYI
you are barking at the wrong tree
or rather, the wrong forest

>>5671046
Hey Dipstick, we don't just talk about Doom here

>>5671049
This discussion certainly isn't retro FPS related then.

>>5671050
its mod discussion
you may not like it
but this is what peak performance looks like

>>5671052
If you consider thinly veiled derails to be valuable discussion.

>>5671000
But what if "no you" was a valid answer?

>>5670994
you do know you need an account to see shit from this site right?
also, your greentexting reminds me of that one dude with the specific walls of texts about gzdoom and decorate

>>5671049
we should though, since all the other communities would piss and whine over and over again about how much more poplar doom is (Quake's especially)
letting them squat here is a waste of time, resources and dilutes discussion

>>5669932
>pepsi
Yeeeaahh boi

>>5671060
>letting them squat here is a waste of time, resources and dilutes discussion
i agree
furries need to be given the boot
hard

>>5671028
i had this dream about a mod with the idea being that you're an alien virus infiltrating wolfenstein 3d esque nazis
so you possess them and disguise as them, but you can self destruct their bodies/kill them to move to another host
and sometimes you can shoot a purple tongue but you have to be stealthy about it
took place in a sunny/day time train station with weird architecture for the place's context because it was maze like
a lot of the nazis were just standing still with funny faces
also: mario odyssey cappy in doom when?

>>5671071
d-daddy..

>>5671071
>look at me, i turned my own post around into a le epic own! i am so epic!

>>5671059
Holy shit, you're right. Guess he needed a new gimmick once it was clear people wouldn't just up and abandon zscript.

>>5671076
>>5671078
> complain about thread quality
> make these kinds of posts
you can fix this problem you have with one simple solution
you leave

>>5671085
You first, anti-ZScript shitter.

>>5671085
gas the furfags
race war now

>>5671092
>resorting to /pol/ddit memes now that you got exposed

AHAHAHAHAH OH NONOONONONONONON OAHAHAHA *WHEEEZE*

>>5669561
considering some people assume doomguy ever had a son when the lore relies on a bunch of ambigious texts and clues, i can't imagine anyone taking the new lore seriously when they already make their own intrepertation of it

>>5671089
>anti-ZScript shitter

>>5671095
oh i see
its another case of "i vehemently convinced myself that these random people are infact this one particular person"

I'll do you one better
The new shopkeeper is hot
LTG is god's given gift to mankind
There is nothing wrong with the hedon fetish art

>>5671104
deviantart please go

>>5671105

>>5671103
>i changed how i do greentexts now
a reminder that cringe culture is just the new atheism: depressed kids trying to look smart latching into a cynical fad because of it, even though you're still a dumb fucking loser
same goes for "ironic self aware humor"

>>5671003

>>5671110
> cringe culture
>"ironic self aware humor"
what the fuck are you even on about?
want to give some context to this illegible rambling?

>>5671103
>its another case of "i vehemently convinced myself that these random people are infact this one particular person"
yeah, i really fucking hate that one dude on his high-horse

his shitposting is actually worse than the people he's trying to shit on

>>5671115
Don't play dumb, my future school shooter.

>>5671030
>>5671036

idea for a mod mechanic: anytime you pick up a health vial, you can to use the emtpy vials as throwable objects

>>5671104
B-BUT WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE WHAT I DON'T LIKE

when did Dylan In Denial migrate from /trash/ to /vr/

You guys know Escape from gay heaven for Warcraft 3? Do you think this could work as a doom mod? Maybe with 3rd person view.

>>5671125
>>5671117

Yes, we get it, everyone who disproves of furries and dickgirls is a /pol/tard-/v/ro/-alt-right-gamergater. Now go fap to horsecock and leave us in peace.

>>5671120
go back to sl and spend thousands on shoddy models to rp with

>>5671129
>>5671131

>>5671132
>>5671120
you do realize you keep replying to atleast two different people thinking they are the same specific, unrelated person

>>5671128
What

can we talk about video games now?