/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61740
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61739

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-update-is-here-four-new-maps-not-a-joke/

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOClc6Svg4

[6-9] New MetaDoom update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1590#p1107375

[6-9] Mr. Friendly updated
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

[6-9] Digital Foundry review about Quake 2 RTX; explains a lot of shit about the source port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vXz9-C-AY

[6-8] Q2 RTX Models for Q2XP
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/addons/q2rtx-models-for-q2xp

[6-8] Anon updates Smooth Doom Lite
https://mega.nz/#!f5MAmQ5J!ADzufTEZ2COW5xRlblSrxZ42Qw3h-UU-Jjbe5wGN3iI

[6-7] GZDoom 4.1.3 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64964

[6-6] Fresh Supply keeps getting updated (1.9.5)
https://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791464555909/announcements/detail/1610514097382812678

[6-6] Quake 2 RTX released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1089130/Quake_II_RTX/

[6-4] Into The Storm - DBP12 Released
http://doomer.boards.net/thread/1524/ti-doom-storm-dbp12-released

[6-4] Sigil Buckethead MIDIs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t99msapgk9t34gd/bucketmidi.zip/file

[6-2] Sigil updated to 1.1
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1134501030887153666
https://pastebin.com/p2GMUSRE (Changelog)

[6-2] Some Consolation Prize updates
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1106075
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1105205

[6-1] Wadsmoosh updated, now supports Sigil
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/83752/wadsmoosh-11


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DOOM >>>>>> QUAKE >>>> POWERGAP >>> other games

>>5655509
uh, no, Duke3D rocks

>>5655509
Duke3d > Doom >>>>>>> the rest

>>5655519
Always bet on Dook *sips* *burps*

what is it about the cultists in blood that makes them so memorable?

>>5655523
LET'S GO TESCO MARINARA

Doom 64 == Quake

Did you know that Lost Souls have only three seconds of memory?

Blood feels like I'm fighting broken AI half the time.
>>5655523
That fucking language they speak and the fact they have no reaction time. That and they fucking MOVE and find you.
In Doom or Quake, the enemies just kind of stay there or move a little. Only Nehahla the Quake mod actually changed the AI so that they could move and jump and run around like a player. The cultists aren't at that level but they do move nicely.

It's the fucking Gargoyles that are broken. Half the time they can't find me and I just want them to attack so I can move on.

>>5655524
MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

>>5655548
fuck this is it. I can't get it out of my head and I just beat all 4 main episodes.

>>5655548
MAH HE MA KARDEE

If we've already had this conversation, just ignore me or insult me but a western IP just got into Smash Bros as DLC. Do you think Doom has a shot someday?

>>5655501
So, does anyone else here not really like Brutal Doom, but still enjoy using Ketchup? I'm a big sucker for the fountains of blood, especially if I'm messing around with a more over the top weaponset, like Pillowblasters.

>>5655586
No, I prefer Nashgore tbqh.

>>5655586
I think there are better gore enhancements out there, but I can't think of any real names other than Droplets.

>>5655586
Wasn't that deprecated by Bolognese?

>>5655586
after comparing bolognese and the new nashgore I have to say I prefer the latter

looks a bit better in low res when I turn on Vanilla Essence

So I just downloaded Eviternity after seeing a couple of videos giving it high praise. I must say after just doing a fast run through of the first level it is pretty amazing the amount of detail put into it. Considering it was mostly one guys work as well makes it even more impressive. I'll definitely be playing this later.

>>5655578
A western IP has been in since smash 64. The donkey kind they used is rares version. They also had diddy who is an original rare character.

>>5655661
That's technically true, I suppose.

>>5655589
Me too, the classic and pixely Nashgore.

I'm one of those zoomers from 98, so I never played doom properly. I played the original for a bit in gzdoom and now I decided to play it again on chocolate doom to see how it would exactly look and my god it was way more fun than gzdoom, almost like an addiction, I couldn't stop playing until I finished the first episode.
/blog

>>5655708
I'd say the 35 FPS limit that comes with Chocolate to be unnecessary
Crispy is almost exactly the same but with a bit more resolution and runs at full speed

>>5655586
It's Bolognese now, but it's awesome either way. I like Brutal Doom, but I actually prefer Bolognese to it.

you know that this new Keen is Garbage when Carmack and Tom hall becomes friends once again
>https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1138108320546545664

>>5655726
i'd rather take a semi-serious Commander Keen than Bethesda's new "it's funny because he's iconic" take

so, there is a non burl dewm version of Hell on earth that is compatible with any wad and even vanilla?

Mark is shilling his garbage at /v/ atm

vasyan pack seems shut down again https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-remake-4

It seems Bethesda still didn't let him to distribute it even in a mod format without any freedom iwads, because they treat GZDoom as a "third-party game engine". Quite a bad new for other GZDoom-based projects. What is somebody will want to make a proper good looking GZDoom-based remake with all assets made from scratch?

Is Extermination Day playable (balanced, bugfree) without Brutal Doom? Do i have to lower the skill settings?

>>5655734
Lol, no samefag, no read :)

>>5655735
>What is somebody will want to make a proper good looking GZDoom-based remake with all assets made from scratch?

They just should not include any Doom logos, id Software trademarks and call it something else like "GZDHRP" and there shouldn't be any problems. Vasyan fully deserves it.

>>5655741
what the fuck you double nigger?

>>5655726
>Quest
This hurts the Carmack

>The hell levels of Doom 2 Reloaded

Is Doom: One the best re imagining of Ultimate Doom?
>https://www.moddb.com/mods/doomone

>>5655742
What is wrong in including a Doom logo in a mod for Doom? Beautiful Doom contains all Doom assets (logos, sprites etc) as well as Brutal Doom.

>>5655762
Zenimax has been very... protective... of the Doom brand lately.

>>5655762
These mods are sprite-based 2.5D. They won't attract any attention from the corporations, but something looking like Unreal Engine would.

>>5655762
Didn't sgtmarkiv face any trouble lately because of patreon?

do we even have confirmation that it itsn't a hoax?

>>5655776
Hell no.

>>5655767
Remember what Romero predicted about Zenimax
>https://bit-tech.net/news/gaming/pc/john-romero-responds-to-id-buyout/1/

and how people shat at him back then because of Daikatana, well look at what is happening tight now...

Quake2Xp is getting reflective cubemaps soon
>https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/news/reflection-cubemap-test

>>5655762
DoomRL's dev was threatened with a lawsuit for using the word "Doom". It was to sanitize search engine results so only their product would show up, but still.

>>5655758
The Ultimate Doom without loading screens? Sign me up.

>>5655758
Liked the surprise towards the end so sure, why not.

What the hell is Brutal Doom v21 Gold Release?

>>5655812
You need a 4chan GOLD PLUS account to access information like that.

>>5655804
I guess it was the reason that vaseline pack was taken down as well. Just type "Doom Remake" in google.

>>5655758
Besides a few stupid choices of music in the new levels used SM music to replace it for myself with slade, its a solid re imaging
and its BETTER Than KDIZD

>>5655817
Just go away already, vas-ass. You're doing all of this yourself.

Gameinformer podcast with Romero talking about sigil, E3 and such
>https://www.gameinformer.com/video-podcast/the-game-informer-show/2019/06/11/gi-show-cyberpunk-2077-impressions-links-awakening

Were Doom 1 & 2 both designed for pistol start? I've never actually tried a pistol start before.

Based sgtmark
https://youtu.be/iPyq0jFgVjI

>>5655842
Yes. Every level was designed with pistol start in mind.

>>5655847
Thanks! I know what I'll doing for a while now, until I get my hands on Eternal.

>>5655845
Mark your shilling isn't helping either you communist shitfuck

>>5655842
Designed to be possible, not necessarily designed to be easy. Although if you go for 100% kills on E4M1, you'll actually enter E4M2 in worse condition than a pistol start unless you play completely perfectly. Personally I don't like to pistol start every map, but rather leave it as the punishment for death as intended.

>>5655845
Took him only what, 4 years? V20 came out in 2015.
Whait another 3-4 years and he will release v21 Platinum.

You guys think Ion Maiden's gonna continue this?

>>5655708
It's a solid game, even the old butchered console ports tend to be pretty enjoyable in spite of some of flaws they had (some of those old ports were good though).

If you want to, GzDoom can still be set up for things like original 320* resolution, the vaseline filter is on by default but can be turned off for crystal clear pixels, and there's a setting to make the spectres shimmer similarly to how they did in the original software rendering.
Hell, you can outright put it in software mode.

>>5655842
All of them were tested by the devs from pistol start, and are thus playable that way, but you're also intended to play progressively (which will make the original three episodes easier, even on UV). It's a matter of taste, I like progressive play because it makes it feel like a continuing adventure (though I quite like episodic division). Sourceports should outright offer Pistol Start as a toggle option on the difficulty setting menu, IMO.

>>5655864
I don't think I've ever done all the barons on E4M1, the level is so bare in firepower.
One of my favorite maps though, it goes from zero to sixty the moment you step out of the starting room.

>>5655586
as much as people here rag on BD for gameplay choices, internet drama, sour grapes, etc. it's definitely satisfying to see a room covered wall to wall with blood & guts after clearing it out.

i still like PB & trailblazer better for what BD offers.

>>5655726
I don't think John Carmack and Tom Hall were ever like, on particularly bad terms (John did give him the boot back the day), it's Adrian Carmack who absolutely couldn't stand Tom.
They weren't really compatible persons, I guess.

>>5655819
Yeah but what isn't better than KDIZD? I mean let's be honest.

>>5655882
No easter eggs in Ion Maiden. Nope. Not a single one.

>>5655889
BD, and PB offer decent satisfying gameplay; on-top of making enemies much more threatening. I only wish there were more maps suited to their gameplay, because Doom 1 & 2 don't work at all with their speed.

>>5655889
I like weapon upgrades and weapon types in PB more than BD.

>>5655753
I wasn't ever that fond of D2RL.

>>5655902
Anything is better than KDIZD.

>>5655845
Still looks like bloated shit. None of these changes seem all that big, especially enough to warrant a new version change. Oh well. To each their own.

>>5655904
>decent satisfying gameplay
How

>>5655882
Who'd they put in who hasn't gotten the treatment? Snake Logan?

>>5655917
Snake Logan is propably busy killing aliens in other part of the US

>>5655917
Caleb and Lo Wang? Ranger?

>>5655530

>>5655916
Well I'm speaking from more of a PB standpoint. Weapons sound and feel powerful, the gore system makes killing enemies a delight.

>>5655902
It Feels Fluid.

i Wish someone could do the same to All Doom 2 Acts, Make the spaceport a huge complex, Add an road to Texas and give justice to many city maps.

Wolfenstein levels doesn't need any change, just add an bonus weapon like the knife and a few more enemies, like Hans grosse facing a cyberdemon.

>>5655939
I think the devs behind DoomOne are actually working on that.

>>5655586
>>5655605
Yes
https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/bolognese-gore-mod-v20

>>5655929
I guess so. It is a bit satisfying to blow off a Mancubus’ arm canons. Even more so to pick them up as a weapon.

>>5655859
Good luck.

>>5655758
This but with MoC.

>>5655919
Keen wasn't cloned and executed by Nazis, Doomguy wasn't killed and hidden away in a deathrow chapel, Duke wasn't killed in a 1920s circus, and he didn't actually once find the bodies of Indiana Jones, Snake Plissken, Luke Skywalker, and Serious Sam, nor the previously mentioned Doomguy.

They're just eastereggs.

Saw this thread
>>5650569
and was purely curious, is there a project/mod which makes use of as many of the known official-but-not-used Doom assets as possible? Specifically I mean the ones like pic related.

>>5655945
Aye. There's quite a few issues I have with PB, but the feedback you feel from combat is exquisite! I find myself coming back to it every while or so.

>>5655952
Thanks! I'll likely need it!

>>5655842
They were tested with pistolstart, but many maps, particularly Romero's maps are much less playable this way. You often need to find secrets to have a decent weapon, and keep it until the end of the level. Even maps like Abandoned Mines, Tenements or Living End can suck badly without additional weapons.

However, I only play with pistolstart, when I love a particular level in the mapset, and don't want to play the garbage around it. For example I always play Duke's episode 5 level Golden Carnage or Mirage Barrage with pistolstart, because I hate the other levels there.

>>5655963
There's some use here and there, I've used some of the sprites and textures myself. The released pack of old development content has a lot of the stuff partially assembled in old WIP sheets, showing how some of the composites were done, and parts of that can be used for certain things.
Of course people have also used a bunch of the old plain unused stuff too, there's a bunch of interesting stuff there.

Nihility comes to mind, using a lot of Alpha/Beta resources. It's one of my favorite .wads

>>5655963
Doom Delta makes use of a lot of unused shit, and also puts stuff in from the Doom Bible.

>>5655972
>>5655978
Appreciated, thank you.

a couple years ago i saw footage of prey in its original concept but can no longer find that video. does anyone have a link? my searching skills are awful

>Hell Revealed
>MAP26
Fun?

>>5655917
It'll have to be somebody they have the IP for.

I would fucking love to see a Snake Logan cameo.

Anyone got the last version of Delta Touch? I've heard they added Zandronum 3.0 support and I'd like to try it.
>playing Doom on a phone
It might be fun to try local coop with it or just toy around.

>>5655896
I heard he couldn't stand Paul Steed either. (possibly out of some sort of jealousy?) What was Adrian's problem? Was it 'tism?

>>5655978
>Doom Delta makes use of a lot of unused shit
Funny, I look it up and it was updated just 13 hours ago. Talk about good timing.

>>5655903
>he didnt find Doge

gzdoombuilder or slade

>>5655776
Is what a hoax?

>>5656010
I have it on my phone, could try and upload the apk

>>5656031
xwe and eureka obviously

>>5656039
Sadly it uses a license system so unless they have a hacked Play Store, it won't work. I tried before because I own it too.
4PDA (which is where a lot of apps like this are cracked) won't crack it because the dev of Delta Touch posts there. But the dev does hand out free codes to people who ask, and he also releases old versions without the license check for free - so, give it a month and they'll post it there.

Immoral Conduct's sergeants should be a meme

>>5656057
yep that nigga gave me a free code just because I owned it on amazon back in the day, and then it got taken down and he put it on google play, nice guy

>>5656060
Turn down the gamma, anon. Unless you like bleach vision.

>>5656012
Adrian was a really edgy kind of guy.
Meanwhile, Tom, though having an edgy sense of humor, was a far more bright and cheery guy, Commander Keen was like 80% Tom, the character is partially based on him (the Green Bay Packers helmet, the red Converse, etc), and Adrian hated working on Commander Keen, he didn't want to do cutesy kidfriendly stuff, he didn't like Tom's weird and juvenile sense of humor, he hated it, despised it, he wanted to do violent sprites and other dark subject matters. He had once worked a job copying and archiving medical photos, and had seen many things which disturbed him (the impaled guys in Doom are based on something he saw there), I kind of wonder if he developed an attitude from that shit.
For Paul Steed, part of it was probably a bit of jealousy (though it should be noted that Paul Steed praised Adrian's skills a lot), and part of it was that Paul Steed was a bit of a hothead, and certainly rubbed some people the wrong way.

I don't know how Adrian is now, but it's 20+ years later, and he looks pretty different, so maybe he's grown.

>>5656010
>paying for a doom sourceport

>>5656063
Same, plus he does put a lot of work into it which is nice to see.

>>5656060
Cory Whittle liked mean baldies. They're even worse in Don's Challenge, on the highest difficulty they're practically one hit kill.

>>5656031
They serve different purposes. Doom Builder for map editing, Slade for editing the wad's contents (ie adding graphics, sounds, code, etc.).

what are these 2?

>>5656079
Total conversions. CAN YOU FIND THEM?

>>5656079
Adventures of Square, I think it's called. It's actually really good, you should give it a shot.

>>5655902
I liked KDiZD alright. Why all of the hate?

>>5655708
newb here, what's the difference exactly? They're the same game, right?

>>5656092
chocolate is more faithful to original doom in graphics and feel than gzdoom, but only hipsters use chocolate, use crispy if you want perfect vanilla doom, supports higher res (640 instead of 320) and higher fps

>>5656079
Adventures of Square and Harmony

So, am trying to replace ketchup integration from my mod with bolognese mod and I noticed monsters don't leave as much blood splatters anymore, what gives?

>>5656112
Integration? What's the point? Always keep stuff like that optional.

>>5656010
It works, but i have no idea how to connect to servers. Also without Doomseeker and auto-download for wads/mods it is rather pointless.

I just need a way to turn the knocked down frames invisible and we could finally have Guro-Doom

>>5656095
how do I use crispy doom on mac

>>5656134
Have fun setting up VirtualBox. And installing Windows on it.

>>5656134
I guess you have to build this one from source

>>5656142
Welp guess I'm just sticking with GZDoom

>>5656134
You can. It's easy, Just build it from the git.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103166-does-crispy-doom-work-on-mac/

>>5656134
>>5656153
On Linux you just download the .deb from your distro's repository, it's freely available there. On Mac, you have to built it with brew, it's easy. Even a brainlet can do it.

>>5656153
It's not so bad. You scream and pull your hair out with troubleshooting for a while but it's completely doable. Not like Crispy is super demanding.

>>5656142
>He thinks you need Virtual Box to run Crispy

whew lad.

I find it funny that in Sigil, Buckethead music is supposed to be a cberry on top of the cake, which is Romero's set of levels, while in actuality it just makes it apparent, that as a level-designer, Romero simply isn't on the level with Buckethead, as a musician, neither in skill nor in expressive range. The music simply overshadows what it's supposed to accompany. Romero sort of shot himself in the foot. Again.

>>5656153
Just try this, with Crispy instead of Chocolate

https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Building_Chocolate_Doom_on_Mac_OS_X

>>5656067
My monitor is almost 20 years old, it's very dim
Do not be condescending

>>5656172
...or maybe not, since it lacks the same scripts as choco

macOS is still a Unix system, it can still do all the shit other Unix-like systems can

>>5656183
or more precisely

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>>5656193
I didn’t know that Parius was a spamming piece of shit.

>>5656197
He is now

miss the supershotgun each time i play doom 1

>>5656193

Is there anything that documents the behind the scenes of the art in the original doom games? I only find stuff for the music and programming.

>>5656223
>>5650569

>>5656223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ1fJbYhbVQ

rub-a-dub-dub Calebs in the tub

>>5656263
Easy on the jelly

>>5656087
I can't tell you why everyone else hates it (possible bandwagoning) but the reason I can't fucking stand it is all the changes to the original game. E1M1 should not have multiple key hunts. If they wanna make KDiZD more like Quake 2, that's perfectly fine! Go ahead! The problem is, if you're going to royally fuck the balance so that it's this weird "Doom 2 in Doom 1" kind of thing, then don't bother calling it a Doom 1 remake or whatever. Something with a name like Knee Deep in ZDoom should focus more on expanding the maps rather than trying to overcomplicate them. As it stands it's a neat ZDoom tech demo but that's where it stops for me. When I get off my ass and finish my Doom modding history video I'll be sure to give a completely objective and unopinionated demonstration of the game, but fuck me I am so not looking forward to having to play that fucking wad. Same thing with The City of the Damned Apocalypse. Love the atmosphere, setting, and storytelling, but the gameplay can seriously go fuck itself.

>>5656263
The mini Calebs?

Worst idea yet: A level editor with an autocomplete function using the same sort of ideas found in OBLIGE.

I fucking love how in Doom Builder sometimes certain sectors will just become cursed and trying to do anything to them will result in adjacent sectors being randomly merged or deleted

>>5655735
>Quite a bad new for other GZDoom-based projects.
not really

Does playing UV -fast fuck with you when you try to go back to UV for other maps?

I kind of want to try it, but I don't know how much of a meme it is.

>>5656325
Build yourself up to it with ITYTD -fast and so on.

Sigil is the true Inferno episode in my opinion. For fuck's sake, it's the proper sequel to KDITD we all wanted in 1993. The inner three episodes are just random shit.

>>5656165
Both are gods in their job, unlike (You), random basement dweller.

>>5656340
Has better pacing too

>>5656207
you could use smooth doom and wadsmoosh and cheats. various psx conversions let you use ssg with cheats as well

Anyone have that plain colour resource mod that got posted here a while ago?

>>5656207
Using (G)ZDoom? Just use doom2 as a pwad and summon it with the console

>>5656165
buckethead just throws shit at a wall and sees what sticks. most of it doesn't. you probably can't name 5 of his 300 albums.

>>5656325
You git gud. UV will naturally feel slow after that.

>>5656382
Hard mode: Name the tracks

Is Sunder worth it? I'm only on the third level after what feels like an eternity.

>>5656382
That's kind of the point. You just listen through, without relistening anything you've missed the first time around because reasons (something else caught your attention for a moment, for example). Kind of "life in musical form".

one on the left or one on the right?

fuck this map honestly

>>5656456
left. Hugo is the man. I love that noclip interview he did

>>5656456
You a hitman or what?

>>5656472
>hidden exit door

>>5656479
can't make this fucking run boost and I have no rocket ammo to try and jump it, guess noclip it is....

>>5656456
Both. Hugo and Marty seem to really love what they do.

>>5656456

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-remake-4
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106816-zenimax-shutdown-doom-remake-4/?page=3
Every gzdoom mod is in danger from now.

>>5655965
This is why I play PB. Along with weapon upgrades and enemy types.

There are very few enemies that are as fun to kill as BD/PBs, except GMOTA's.

>>5656523
Good joke.

>>5656523
Inform Carmack. Done.

>>5656523
I would've taken that mod down too, it looks horrendous.

>>5656523
>Every gzdoom mod is in danger from now.
No it isn't, Vasyan.
Stop crying wolf and accept your L.

Apparently, there's a Doom Eternal trailer that is different from the E3 one because it shows different stuff in it.
https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/1138525054172618754
This is if anyone is just interested in more footage of the game, because otherwise, preordering is always dumb.

>>5656586
>YYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH

>>5656586
man these fucking companies are getting wise with the regional pricing recently

first Octopath and now Eternal are waaay too expensive for my taco tier wallet
what I find funny is that the preorder for Cyberpunk 2077 is half the fucking price in both cases

it used to be only ubisoft pulling this shit

>>5656523
Vasyan had a modified version of gzdoom.exe in which he added a copyrighted logo by ZeniMax from cancelled Doom 4 game.

I guess that's why they thought that the engine was something else, not original GZDoom which is a legit fork of the Doom engine.

So we shoudn't be worrying.

>>5656523
can you stop

>>5656602
It was still called gzdoom.exe. And on your screen I can read GZDOOM in the title.

Fuck off Vaseline Boy. Your shitty mod got DMCA'd because it used Doom's likeness as a standalone product. No mods are going to be hurt by this. The only reason you care is that if mods start getting shut down for it, you'd lose content to steal from.

>>5656605

what

Can you people stop talking about He Who Must Not Be Named?

V****n is cumming in his pants from all of this attention.

>>5656617

no stfu

>>5656602

>>5656614
Real the letter again. He reuploaded it again in a mod format without freedoom iwads and asked Bethesda for authorization, they still refused him and pointed that GZDoom was illegal.

>>5656624
No, it wasn't. It's because he used their logo in the launcher. GZDoom had this shit figured out for years now. Why do you think it doesn't use the marine sprite for a launcher anymore?

u know whats cool
Crispy Doom
Shame about Boom maps not working on it tho

Besides REKKR what are some newish wads I could take for a spin for a comfy vanilla+ experience?

>>5656626
PSXDoom TC has a Doom logo in its launcher as well. Does it make it illegal and gives Shithesda right to shut it down?

>>5656060
whats the best way to play Immoral Conduct?
EDGE version, or one of the gzdoom versions? all the ones I found were from 2015 or earlier

>>5656639
You got owned by Bethesda, suck it up and find another community to annoy.

>>5656639
Nice broken english Vaseline Boy. PSXDoom TC is fine. Your shitty project is not. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeet dabbed on.

>>5656639
you might be retarded

>>5656639
Go drown, thief.

>>5656639
This is classic Doom logo and there's no problem with it because the mod is for Classic Doom. But vasyan used a logo from another cancelled game owned by ZeniMax (Doom 4).

look I hate drama but I really wanna laugh at this russian faggot, what's the best place to do it so that I don't shit up the thread?

>>5656658
/trash/

>>5656665
Sick thanks

Name a better modding community at other retro game than DOOM.

protip: you can't.

When I exit a level in gzdoom, the switch sound plays abruptly before the intermission screen, is this normal?

>>5656680
Level exits are typically switches. I can tell you've never used a level editor.

>>5656679
Quake, for one it doesn't have ZDoom or Graf.

>>5656679
Tecmo Super Bowl on the NES gets yearly updates. Dem sports fans love that shit. Sounds like a good community. Not necessarily better of course.

>>5656687
I know, it's just the sound doesn't play like in classic doom, in my gzdoom it plays abruptly on every exit.

>>5656692
Assuming you're not making a Madden joke, that's pretty cool.

>>5656697
Nope. Completely legit.

I'm having trouble getting DoomRPG + RLA to work in GZdoom. What do I do? I'm using the version it tells me to, which is 2.1.1, and it's giving me a decorate error when I try to load the mod. Am I loading it out of order or something?

Experience the true power of GZDoom.

>>5656639
I dont think its getting shut down. I mean for starters its an actual artsy take on Doom and isnt a frankenwad made to push the same joke over and over again

>>5656710
Cursed shader or best shader?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooX-NebPgk

>>5656721
>8-bit
>doesn't actually adhere to 8-bit limits
no thanks

>>5656725
That's fitting for GZDoom desu.

>>5656736
your mom is fitting for my dick
regardless that's an awesome filter and I'd love to see shit like Freedoom with it. I feel like Freedoom would fit with it specifically.

>>5656710
Nani the fuck?
Is Doomguy in the Matrix now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpOo_1qh1CM
most underrated doom track

>>5656737
It's not a filter, just some randomass pallete mod I downloaded to get another crusty screenshot.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/gb-boom/downloads/gbboom

What's the deal with freedoom, are the worms and other enemies etc all oc or from somewhere

>>5655501
>"why don't you wait until a map is done lmaaao"
Then I'd never make anything, by your definition of 'finished'
>not updating a map post-development, especially when importing it into a megawad
wew

>>5656749
OC I think. They're so old that they've really gotten around in other wads, and even made their way onto Realm667. The older enemies looked a lot better imo, even if they were shitty 3D renders. What they have now just seems kind of overdesigned and generic.

>>5656746
Aw crap. I thought it was that one B E A U T I F U L Gameboy shader.

>>5656752
I think the new monster sprites are good, but the weapon sprites have taken some serious hits. The Demon Eclipse SSG is completely out of place, it even has gloves while the pistol and shotgun sprites don't.

>>5656759
Yeah the new weapon sprites are fucking awful. Freedoom was at its best in my opinion when it was raw as fuck with it's weird 3D renders. It felt like a forgotten 90's game because of it. The barons and mancubuses being weird blobs, cacodemons being weird dome things with tentacles, and zombiemen just barely shambling around like they're not even awake was great. Now it's all just overdesigned and overtechnical shit, especially for the weapons. I loved how the old BFG9000 looked like a weird crossbreed between bones and technology, and now it's just this generic gun I've seen thousands of edits of. It's pretty sad when something that was a source of edits starts using a source of edits to replace it's own content.

i've never played quake, looked up gameplay and enemies behave like shit
does it get better later?

>>5656751

Been experimenting with different color models for Doom paletting. The RGB method is just Photoshop doing its own thing, the others are converting a big LUT to that color space, converting the palette to that color space, using Photoshop to palette it that way, then replacing the palette with the normal RGB Doom palette to keep the arrangement of colors. Also experimented with smoothing out CIELuv by using a 2D LUT to arrange the hues in a circle instead of an oblong shape https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-iso-hue-curves-in-CIELUV-space-14_fig2_297354285 and it looks better than the non-smoothed one so I didn't include that one.

They handle subtle and saturated colors differently. Check out rip the skin's tones in Jzazbz and Luv, the paintings, the problem colors like magenta and dark blue, etc.

Any recommendations for demo images? I want to show off the differences better.

>>5656765
>>5656759
It strangely feels like a build engine game as much as it does a doom engine, the duke3d shotty and the way enemies drop, as well as the more detailed levels, dunno

quake is shit
play doom

>>5656771
I fucking love how the top row looks. Try this for a demo image, the filters should make it interesting.

>>5656768
try it for yourself before judging asshole

>>5656751
i have no clue what hypothetical argument you're hypothetically winning against

>>5656472
>>5656489
its frustrating at first, yes, but after getting to know the level better its quickly become one of my favorite doom 1 levels. Also that exit is a secret exit, its not the normal mandatory one

>>5656775
Blue image ain't gonna work well with Doom's blues, least not in sRGB primaries.

>>5656640
Hakubi's GZDoom port is pretty good. It's not 100% complete, as it lacks the AI partners that would spawn in the coop player spawns, but personally, I never actually liked those.

>>5656787
I love the look of this. Reminds me of all those weird 2008 Zdoom wads.

This is so goofy

Our brazilian boy is getting cheeky

>>5656771
Do BTSX and Ancient Aliens.

>>5656792
Insufficient pixels? NAH IT'S FINE.

>>5656710
>>5656756
GBDoom looks amazing.

Luv (Mod) has better skin in this, Jzazbz seems better overall.

>>5656794
I could, but I don't want to set up everything for 2 more palettes right now. If anything I'd set up my custom palette first since that should make everything look good.

>>5656770
Yeah, thanks. The zdoom render (pictured) isn't 1:1 to GZDoom's Software >>5656751

>>5656770
yours is cleaner

Fucking Graf.

Also fucking hell, I'd rather not have a huge "THIS MAP USES THE SOFTWARE RENDERER" or "THIS MAP USES THE GL RENDERER" every map, considering I'm using TWO programs to make these maps.

>>5656808
I have no clue what you're talking about.

>>5656816
You madman.
I'm using both DBX and GZDB to make the maps, GZDB doesn't have DBX's freehand-draw tool, which makes it a real bitch to swap between the two programs and between Zdoom and Gzdoom constantly.

>>5656808
Are you using this? https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=61664
I mean, come on. We need more red. Way more.

Luv (Mod) does a great job for skin highlights.

Do people still care for vanilla/Boom mapsets that aren't designed to be overly difficult?

So this HUD mod is nice.
Is commenting out smooth monsters supposed to disable the gore effects? Because that sucks a little.

>>5656841
You mean fun maps? Sure.

>>5656831
Not quite what I mean. Check the backround 'statues' in the software/zdoom render. Then check this GZDoom GL render. It looks entirely wrong ae: pure black vs red-shaded grayscale.

Furthermore the 'faux stalagtites' float in midair for whatever reason.

Would that file also remedy other 'shaded grayscale' objects?

did id ever take the piss out of 3d realms?

>>5656852
Did they ever need to?

>>5656848
I dunno. Just messing with you. I'm generally fine with subtle colored lighting but that much red on red makes me go HNNNGH a little bit.

>>5656848
>>5656826
>>5656808
>>5656751
didn't you quit doom

like, twice

>>5656857
I dont know, if I were part of id back then I would

>>5656679
Quake and Half-Life has some pretty good ones.
Also people make still make a lot of romhacks for Super Mario games, some quite ambitious and well made.

>>5655501
Do you people actually have fun playing difficult WADs like Sunder or Sunlust, or am I just getting meme'd?

If so, do you play them on HMP or on UV?

>>5656883
Some people have gotten so good at Doom that anything less difficult is too easy.

>>5656883
I haven't played those, because I hear they're extremely hard, and they do a lot of slaughter, which isn't a flavor I like very much.

I did find myself really liking Mutiny though, on HMP it was pretty seriously challenging, usually through smart monster placement, and very seldom through throwing hordes at you.
It was intense and pushed me to the edge, and I liked it a lot, any time I fucked up and died it never felt like the maps were unfair.

>>5656834
>>5656807
>>5656787
>>5656771
Here's the download link to the 3D LUTs. https://mega.nz/#!54sgHYoB!uUCJAGAxmLoMQgMJeB-d23zgxcTybO_4EzdzfpsjF3c

>>5656883
My favorite way to play doom is Plutonia on UV with Final Doomer and I'm not even good at doom. Everyone has their own way to play Doom.

>>5656859
Eh, I get it. There's a certain way things have to be done given a particular setting/theme, though. I've found people tend to scream regardless of what I do, even if they're given exactly what they want, so I've gone back to doing whatever the hell pleases my fancy.

Most of the outside is red-on-red-on-red. That's just the way the outside on this map is. The rest is still pretty red but not entirely so.

Map 03 of the 'ice' themed episode is essentially done, but I'm still sticking to my guns of 'i'm a blithering, incompitent idiot and others would have to refine it because I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing'- For example, the end-fight with the Archvile, I wanted to somewhat randomize what monsters were thrown in, but my best approximation of how to do this was to set up a 3x3 Bosscube Box that despawned after firing once.

Red IS the dominant color on Shajjeshojth though. That's not gonna change.

>>5656883
Suppose some people like that kind of tension and "puzzle" solving. Definitely not for everyone.

who /vidmaster/ here?

>>5656896
Final doomer plutonia weps are great but I hate the ancient aliens no impact shit or the weird weeb shit for jccp

>>5656902
I'm fond of when maps go out of their way and DON'T try to be like every other doom map out there.
Puzzles? Fuck yes.
Open-naturedness that feels more like an enviroment than a level? Give me more of THAT GAY SHIT

>>5656896
as long as it's not Brutal Doom

>>5656898
>so I've gone back to doing whatever the hell pleases my fancy.
wasn't that "quitting doom"

twice

I like maps that are short and high intensity
enough for an adrenaline shot per level

Anyone got a link for sigil_shreds.wad

Doom palette trying to handle a red and orange explosion.

>>5655586
>0.l

>>5655501
FOR THOSE WANTING TO ASK WHY
Quake 2 RTX devs are hosting an AMA on PCMR reddit
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/bzv3do/two_of_the_nvidia_engineers_who_worked_on_quake/

>>5656472
The best freaking map, loots of space to run around, lots of enemies, lots of cool secrets, lava, the feeling of desesperation while you try to find the exit, the acceptance that you are going to stay for ever in hell mindlessly walking around eating dead cacodemons bodies and the excitement of finding the exit.

>>5656921
OP

>>5656924
>Avaiable

>>5656921
Definitely not OP. Never ever read the OP.

>>5656917
Not him but I just did a brutal doom doom 1 playthrough today
>>5656472
Its not that bad on the purist setting, I like what it does with the hell levels, burning skybox is super cool, no reloading bs on purist

>>5656786
I searched everywhere and found no standard exit

>>5656907
>jap map pack
>weeb mod
Seems reasonable to me.

>>5656929
I swear Lieutenant Lucio has a grudge against those damned "L"s or something.

>>5656932
> I just did a brutal doom doom 1
How could you

>>5656925
interesting on how Gigapixel makes the skin textures accurate in gher res without adding some autistic noise like what ESRGAN used to before the manga shenanigans.

>>5656928
>>5656931
>midi

>>5656949
HURR DURR WHAT IS FILE SIZE

>>5656949
dude
m8
pal
hermano

you dont have to look very hard

>>5656940
Mork isn't worth sneezing at, desu.

>>5656898
Here's that aforementioned area. The bosscube box is up there, the archvile area to the right. It's very shoddy and haphazard, but that's the best I can do for the time being, and I've got an entire episode to work on yet, so I can't just spend all of the next couple years only working on one map.

>>5656936
Its touhou stuff I don't understand, at least give me some shadow warrior shit

>>5656924
>>5656940
It's a common enough fuckup in programming that some compilers automatically correct for it.

I don't get all the hate for Doom 32X's soundtrack, although E1M1 does sound kinda shitty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG2HwH1JkAI&t=11s

>>5656967
That's fair, actually. The Shadow Warrior katana with those stupid barbs on the spine of the blade always appealed to me, that could be in place of the punch.

>>5657002
>not using the barbs/serrations when slashing
this will never make sense to me

what's the secret to designing a good map? thinking about the encounters first?

>>5657036
Thinking about everything.

Just finished Memento Mori 2. The fuck is with those last 5 maps. Felt like a huge drop in quality.

this dude's been on fire for like 5 minutes straight and only runs towards me, is this a bug that happens sometimes in bloodGDX?

>>5657036
Confucius say put vertex thing down idiot.

>>5657052
that's a well known bug
https://blood-wiki.org/index.php/Flame_guy

>>5655546
>That fucking language they speak
The best part is the language and phrases aren't gibberish. They're a full made up language.

>>5657028
Because the actual edge of the blade is far longer, giving it much more reach and much more contact area. The barbs seem like they could easily get hooked on bones, or various clutter or architecture if you miss.

They're almost certainly just there to look groovy, likely they aren't even sharpened.

>>5655903
Duke Nukems outfit is in the clothing shop window. She says something along the lines of "where are you, you big lug?"

>>5657090
Well I mean, that makes sense, but
>barbs getting stuck on something
>especially flesh
That's not just a slice, that's a GRAB and REND as it catches on the tissue and just strips it away.

>>5657094
What if it sticks on bone, though?
What if you need your sword for someone else immediately? You don't want your speed and momentum to come to a complete stop at the worst moment.
I still vote the front edge of the blade.

>>5657103
Like I said, I get it. I just think it's cooler to use the 'hooky' part, even if it makes no sense.

Hideous Destructor with a couple questions for you vets out there
-When you're incapacitated on the ground, but not bleeding, how do you make it out of harm's way? I've seen people be able to pull off tricks like punching thin air to lunge away, or sprint jump even while down, but I can't seem to do either. Sometimes I can't even pull out my fists. Is this a glitch they were exploting that's been fixed, or what am I doing wrong?
-When healing with a medikit, does it make any difference at all if you're standing or crouching? I've noticed that when healing while standing I more frequently collapse to incapacitated before I can finish patching up, than when I do it crouching - but that might be just me making stuff up.

>>5657128
Also, one last thing
-When incapacitated AND bleeding, is it better to
>A. Immediately inject stimpack and spam jump to get up asap
>B. Inject stimpack, hold fire to stop bleeding, spam jump
>C. Hold fire to stop bleeding, inject stimpack, spam jump
>D. Hold fire to stop bleeding, spam jump
>E. Spam jump, get medkit and patch up
>F. Something else

>>5656891
Same I like actual difficult maps not "hey here there's 5 cyberdemons and a chainsaw good luck fag "

>>5657137
Yeah, yeah.
There was a point in Mutiny where I was in a courtyard full of crates, and the game lets loose a small, but fairly deadly horde coming running at me, then a Cyberdemon comes out to chase me, then a Mancubus teleports in on top of a tall stack of crates to rain hellfire down on me.

Two thoughts run through my head at the time, as I run for my fucking life, never stopping a second;
>"OooooOOOOOOOH BAAAAALLS!!!!"
>"Holy shit, this is SO FUN AND EXCITING!"

>>5657137
>"hey here there's 5 cyberdemons and a chainsaw good luck fag "
What maps actually do this? I know you were exaggerating for comedic effect but I'm sure someone out there has made something like that

>>5657153
Probably something designed badly on purpose, like a terrywad or something.

>>5657128
>>5657136
>When you're incapacitated on the ground, but not bleeding, how do you make it out of harm's way?
The way the exploit works is holding fire or altfire and then switching to fists. Holding fire lets you throw a punch when you hit 1, holding altfire will do the lunge. Altfire's trickier to use because you need to cycle your inventory items away. Once you've pulled out a stimpack, press firemode to cycle back to no item and you should be able to lunge consistently. It is an exploit, though. If you don't want to break the rules like that, use berserk to escape incap.

>When healing with a medikit, does it make any difference at all if you're standing or crouching?
It shouldn't make a difference. You can even be moving while using the medikit.

>When incapacitated AND bleeding, is it better to
Zerk is fastest. You're up instantly, and, you know, berserk. Unless you've walked into something way outside your league, you should be able to get to safety. Failing that, pop a stimpack, stop your bleeding, and get up once you're able. If you can get up while still bleeding, the medikit is far better than bandages. But I think you stay incapacitated until you've stopped bleeding for a certain amount of time.

>>5657175
Awesome, thank you very much for the info

I guess if the punch-lunge is an exploit, then I don't really care to use it. I'm just glad I'm clear on that now

>>5656995
It's funny because it sounds like a fair amount of sound cards that weren't to the General Midi standard we're so used to.
That's not to say I think its good but I do agree it gets too much hate all things considered.
I think even at its best though its missing or not emphasizing a fair amount of instruments.

>>5656898
Try a black skybox. See if you like it.

>>5656995
I think that in spite of the weak music, the actual quality of the soundfiles are top notch, they didn't seem to compress them at all like they did for the SNES port.

I had this saved but I'm not sure what the context of the DECORATE in the background is.

>>5657275
>filename
Something Patreon related?

>>5657286
That's how much he makes on Patreon currently, used to be $550 at one point. But generally this meme is associated with bad programming, especially YandereDev. I'm just wondering what the DECORATE in this one is implying.

>>5657268
Ehh, I'll give it a go, but I kinda wanted to use the skybox because it works in conjunction with the music that fits-the-map-and-theme I used while developing the map. I'll give it a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlEy_bBo5vk

>>5657291
My guess would be something something OH I'M HAVING A HARD TIME CREATING X RIGHT NOW PROBABLY GONNA TAKE ME MONTHS and the decorate is somehow related. Maybe?

>>5657291
could it be the most famed
>turn "freeze on"
>shoot at enemies' feet, or a few pixels below their feet, until it disappear
>turn "freeze off"
>??????

>>5657293
Eh, not bad, I like it. I just don't think it works with this particular map in mind. The red lighting+fog is in conjunction with the skybox so it doesn't really make sense otherwise.
Earlier version of the map, for comparision. It's done in this one, but I still want to update it, especially considering I'm reusing it in another wad instead of keeping it seprate. Makes more sense to update a single megawad then several smaller wads.

>>5657304
wow fuck let's just forget the link like a retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lpSBksudw

>>5655501
What are your favorite MIDI-adding mods for GZDoom?

I'm talking things like Term's "Now that's what I call MIDI" and that old Jimmy's Jukebox.

Is there better ones? Which one do you recommend? Ideally loaded with as much 80's/90's industrial/rock/metal/goth stuff. Or even other specialties like just retro game music, etc.

>>5657312
some dude added a couple hundred tracks to term's MIDI mod

not all the aditions are stellar...but you can always change the track

there is also a synthwave music mod and a touhou one

>>5657314
>some dude added a couple hundred tracks to term's MIDI mod
>synthwave
aw shiet, sauce me up pls

>>5657317
you can find them on the zdoom forums

>>5657051
tfw nobody agrees
tfw this isn't the first time i've been ignored on doom threads

>>5657325
I haven't played the Memento Moris in maybe, like 15 years, so I can't give a comment.

>>5655501
Yo can someone sauce me up with that twitter quote or whatever that disproves Doom 2016 was based on Brutal Doom?

>>5655207
Yeah. Super hell all of a sudden. Just fucked up the ass from start to finish. Pretty good.

>>5657327
I figured that's the case for many of you guys. I'm just playing catch up with the Doom canon

>>5657304
>>5657308
Oh. Animated skybox. Now I get it. That works.

>>5657051
Happens with a lot of megawads, they seem to get padded out and the quality nosedives.

Strange Aeons is really quite guilty of this.

I honestly had a gut feeling that someone Heretic/Hexen was going to make it's way back, but at least we have Daisy.

>>5657345
I actually haven't played some classics. I've been meaning to check out Scythe 1 + 2, but just haven't.

>>5657346
Yeh. Cheers lad.
My current ongoing project is a curiosity to me, really.
I guess I could tear it down and start anew with a generalized megawad and leave what's there for people to pick apart and use for their own purposes, just as I have intended from the start with all my work.

>>5657414
that's one of the main classics i've played. both are good and gives you a taste of slaughter in both of their map 30s

>>5656995
On a serious note, you could totally do Doom on the 32x and have it NOT sound like shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KztV1xeG1-0
Oh what could have been.

>>5655207
Run, shoot, cry, die, repeat. Imagine speedrunning that crazy shit.
I don't wanna do that again.

>>5657425
That's pretty cool looking

>>5657452
That's rad as hell. Also
>that fuckmuppet in the comments

>>5655501
The demons have overtaken the map
Somehow I am still alive

>>5656953
I googled everywhere and this was my last resort to come here and look for it...it doesn't exist anywhere for free that can be googled.

>>5657452
That’s the good shit. I’d kill for the rest of the soundtrack to be remade like this. Especially E1M2, E2M1, and E3M3.

>>5657452
>>5657496
Forget the last one, just saw it was in there.

>>5657337
>>5657453
>E3M9 - Pressure Point
>the two "Fuck Yourself" secrets with the Barons and archviles
>massive slaughtersection before the end with the cyberdemon and the mancubus hiding in the exit room
I ran out of ammo at the end of that map for everything but my rocket launcher, didn't even kill the cyberdemon. So many archviles, so little time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz3AnETChjA

>>5657452
>Click the link to open it on youtube
>It starts again
>Its actually a great duet with itself

>>5657275
sgt mark (brutal doom guy)

>>5657526
>no .mid
FUCK

>Plutonia MAP29
>it's Downtown 2: Chaingunner Boogaloo
Can I just say I beat Plutonia and not play this

>>5655578
I think doomguy has a chance considering how iconic doom is to video gaming, and doom eternal coming out

>>5657561
you can do it anon just save and reload a lot

>>5657561
You can do it.

>>5657561
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

>>5655501
Doom by Bethesda are not FPS, but first person beatemups.

> Start making a new map
> Before playtesting it replace d_runnin
Am I the only one who is absolutely fucking sick of that song?

>>5657584
I take the occasional break from Doom once in awhile, just so that doesn’t happen.

>>5655501
Do you guys like doom?

>>5657584
Decades worth of midi files out there. Why wouldn't you take advantage of that? Do it to it.

>>5657584
Doom II's soundtrack is shitty in general compared to the original's. A lot of the songs just feel really slow and mellow which seems unfitting. Even the ones that aren't mellow just feel really boring to me.

>>5656971
you are 100% talking out of your ass
no sensible compiler will switch letters into numbers

>>5657584
> not having the map as map00 until its finalized

>>5657568
>>5657570
>>5657575
I did it. Fuck you.
Hopefully the Icon of Sin fight isn't complete bullshit.

>>5657452
>>5657496
Gecko Yamori has done other things around the Sega soundchips, it's his specialty of sorts. Sadly a lot of it has been lost to time because his original channel was nuked by YouTube's early copyfag system.
Thankfully he returned under the new name of Savaged Regime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NEzxOqPEVk If someone could get in contact with him maybe he'd be down to help create a music mod?

>>5657624
Oh no its totally easy, just like doom 2

>>5657624
Chaingunner hell is over
For now

>>5657652
You did it! Time for Plutonia 2

>>5657661
Haha no

>>5657663
It can't be that bad

>>5656691
>Zdoom
Whats rong with that?

>>5657667
Honestly, maybe later, but I'm probably going to play something less intensive next. Considering Master Levels next, since it's the only official megawad from the '90s I haven't done yet.

>>5657458
Thanks man. I could probably release a 'development milestone' if you like.

>>5657510
>E3 Finale
>pale blue archvile as final boss
>teleports around small arena filled with hurtfloors
>4 BFG shots later it's finally dead
>get into elevator, clear of enemies and send it up
>six-eight archviles spawn in this enclosed space with the only cover being the pole in the middle
I would appreciate a little restraint from these mappers, the archvile spam is ridiculous.

>>5657679
why don't you quit doom

for the third time

>Anagnorsis
I've never ever ever ever ever hated an enemy more than Lost Souls right now
What a cool level ruined by a shit gimmick, how many of these fuckers are there

Just me here, shilling my Doom-inspired MIDI album, available for free download.

https://dialupformurder.bandcamp.com/album/midi-dreams

>>5657732
ew

Why is this kind of thing popular on Doomseeker?

>>5657750
It's nothing but variants of Complex Doom too

>>5657584
>hating d_runnin
You sir are a charlatan and your mother is of scandalous repute

>>5657732
It's nice

I like how Calebs voice cracks when he laughs or screams, it make me think his regular voice is just an act and then it becomes really funny

What are the preferred gameplay mods to play map packs with, that don't alter the experience too dramatically. I recently replayed the main games and Doom64, then did a run with Brutal Doom (it was fun don't judge me) and now I'm ready for some map packs. Figured I'd start with ancient aliens. What's the good shit to pair it with?

>>5657813
High Noon Drifter
Ultimate Doomer
DAKKA

All of them preserve basics of the original arsenal while giving them new coat of paint and some new functionality.

>>5657813
What's wrong with brutal doom?

>>5657673
The ZDoom forum are a seething hive of drama that often gets imported here.

>>5657832
I'm not exactly sure why but there seems to be a lot of drama attached to this mod. It's pretty polarizing for some reason. I personally had fun with it.

>>5657823
I will look into those, thanks anon.

I also installed Nashgore, any other stuff in that vein that I should know about?

>>5657832
Old community drama, at this point it's mostly just keeping a bogeyman alive for the sake of hateboners.

Best to not let others decide what mods you're allowed to like.

>>5657834
But anon, i was asking about the port, not the people.

>>5657813
Final Doomer has a dedicated weapon set for Ancient Aliens

>>5657839
Nashgore, Universal Gibs and Droplets do the same sort of thing and are zscript-based.
Bolognese is ACS-based.
Ketchup is old and decorate-based.
Old Nashgore is also decorate-based.

>>5657839
Universal Gibs and Bolognese are gore mods too.

>>5657832
Adds fuckton of onnecessary bugs that couldve been avoided if Mark was actually good at coding, greately degraded performance because it spawns 2 additional actors per every monster on a level. It keeps spawning and despawning them every 2-3 frames, which means 10-15 times per second your game is spawning 300+actors even in low population map, and ~1000on high population map.

Messes with actor radius for absolutely no reason, which makes some mobs teleport out of bounds/appear out of their closets before time. (Plutonia 2 map28 I think has 2 cybies appearing at the start of level instead of at the end of it because of that)
Some monsters can instigate infighting beforehand, so player may arrive at an aftermath of a massive battle instead of partaking in it. (Scythe 2 has at least 3 instances of that)
Some boom levels with scripted exits may autofinish because Mark attached some scripts to player actor instead of making them global.

Loads of other shit you can find about if you bother to lurk more.

Oh, and popular sites like RPS/Kotaku as well as some youtubers touted it as "One true way to play Doom at this day and age" at some point

>>5657732
I like it. Thanks for sharing

>>5657813
I will judge the shit out of you.

what are some better gore mods if brutal doom is so shit?

>>5657859
>>5657813

>start playing Master Levels of DOOM2
>BLACKTWR.WAD
Holy shit that's a cool fucking map. This was done in 1994?

are there any giant and long levels that were made for coop?

>>5657875
The Forest of Agony

>>5657732
More .mid, less .mp3
Thanks

>>5657863
Nashgore. EZ

Demo coming soon

>>5657684
Haven't even started E3 yet. Sounds like I'm in for one hell of a probably gonna quit halfway through experience.
Sounds like heavy stuff.

>>5657925
Yum yum, gimme some.

>>5657925

>>5657931
But I like my negative karma

>>5657875
For a second I thought that said giant and boring, I was about to recommend you play Knee Deep in ZDoom.

>>5657925
What's this?

>>5657834
irrelevant to the question

>>5657916
>More .mid, less .mp3
The free download comes with 20 (yes that's 20) midi files.

New album soon

>>5657956
Oh good. Thanks times two