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I actually just beat it for the first time yesterday, the only unfair part in my opinion is the 4 split fireballs and how random Dracula is with where he teleports

>>5647807
Its ridiculous to try to hit/avoid the splitting fireballs AND hit Dracula. He's much easier in his final phase too

Dude, it's the only 2D Castlevania where Drac drops food during the fight. It's easy, you just suck.

Phase 1 is easy. Keep maximum distance, throw cross at his head, then whip the fireballs and hold the attack so the limp whip destroys the split mini-fireballs.

>>5647752
>Super Castlevania 4 has the most bullshit Dracula fight in the series
HA HA HA HA

>>5647836
It's easy to accidentally skip that phase by damaging him too fast. Even with the food it's still harder than any of the NES games and especially Bloodlines, which was piss easy

>>5647938
>Even with the food it's still harder than any of the NES games
The third game's final boss is way harder.

>>5647943
Knew you'd say that, but you're wrong. The trick to Draculas Curse final boss is to pace back and force to bait his attacks. The 1st & 3rd phases are trivial if you do this. The 2nd phase was never hard

>>5647951
I know how to fight the final boss. It's just that it's way harder than Super IV.

>>5647954
The way to beat Dracula in 4 is a war of attrition using crosses and the meat to survive, and other way you'll be too busy destroying or dodging his fireballs to actually hit him. I call that more difficult

>>5647960
Just the fact you can beat the final boss by spamming and tanking damage makes it easier.

I mean, you get unlimited attempts with full powerups. It isn't like you can gameover or anything.

>>5647961
But like I said if you spam you miss the meat, he wont even fire them off. Its luck based. It's the only game where hitting Drac with the whip is the worst method. Even in 1 you need to supplement your holy water with whipping

>>5647964
That doesn't make it less annoying, hell all the concessions the game gives are to alleviate it. On average I die in that fight much more often than in Castlevania 3

It isn't harder than CV1 or 3, but it's more of a challenge than the final bosses on Rondo or Bloodlines at least.
Also, IV is the only game in the series that got Dracula right, since he doesn't "transform" into a monster. In the Akamatsu interviews, he said the monster that serves as real final boss in CV1 is not Dracula, but the embodiment of "curse of man". Games like Rondo and X68000 got this wrong and made Dracula himself transform into a monster, but in reality, they're 2 completely different guys.
I believe the reason why IV didn't fuck this up is because the dev team of IV was in contact with Akamatsu's team (III and IV were developed around the same time), so the IV guys were aware of the lore.

>>5647752
my only complaint is that the fight itself drags way too fucking long and becomes tedious and starts to bore the shit out of me.
death is the only fight in the entire game that could make you break a sweat if you happen to miss to hit one of his faggot spams

>>5647846
This.
I've see some argue (wrongly) here that Dracula X is the easiest Dracula once you know to spam the axe. But that's bullshit because it's possible you can still get unlucky on speedo form. If you're crouching you won't be knocked back when you're attacked, but if you happen to be attacking while massive Speedo demon's enormous hitbox happens to fly your way, you are 100% fucked. People can try to downplay this fight for sick gamer cred, and it's far from the hardest boss fight I've ever played, but it's definitely not an easy fight either, and for a Castlevania final boss it's definitely one of the hardest. SCIV Dracula is a cakewalk in comparison. The twin fireballs initially suck but you can avoid them with enough practice. IIRC whipping them diagonally is usually a mistake. Also he drops pot roasts when you attack the floating glowing balls that send out 360 degree projectiles and this mitigates a lot of the challenge.

>>5647752
The trick to the SCV IV fight is to use all the unique mechanics of SCV IV. Hit Dracula when he teleports in then do a downward jumping strike to destroy the projectiles that fly up at you. Lure the flames from one side of the screen to the other then jump, turn around in midair, and hit them with the whip.

>>5647951
The trick to the first phase in CV III is to keep your distance from Dracula. The farther away you are, the farther apart the entrapping flames will be.

>>5647752
Really? I thought he was easier than Death.
He's worse in X, IMO, because he can so easily knock you down the bottomless pits.

>>5647836
Exactly.

Was he just enjoying a bucket of chicken when you came storming in brandishing a whip at him?

>>5647954
I wonder if the second stage of that fight inspired the Legion bosses in later games?

>>5647752
I beat it on my first sitting. Took like 10 continues, but still.

>>5650345
1. Bring an Axe
2. Crouch when you're about to get hit to prevent knockback

SNES X's Drac is easy if you follow these steps.

I’m not sure where the meme that SC4 was so easy came from. Granted, I just got into the classic series but I got through 1 without too much difficulty. In comparison to 3, Rondo, and Bloodlines I guess 4 is easier, but it’s not like it’s that easy of a game.

>>5650841
I know, but sometimes I slip, and then it's curtains, regardless of your healthbar (which isn't actually bad, IMO). 4's Drac is easier.

>>5650829
That my point though, most other Dracs take less continues to beat, if any.

>>5650829
>Took like 10 continues, but still.
The true thrill of beating Drac in IV is that if you go for a no-death run, you'll get to him with barely enough time, since the timer is still the same one as the beginning of the last stage.
I love delivering the final blow to his head while the timer is ticking.

>>5647954
I like how Drac has more than two distinct forms here, and each one gets more bizarre, confusing, and disturbingly powerful in a subtle, incomprehensible way. It really outlines how Dracula truly is the lord of all monsters; he can become anything, do anything, destroy you in ways you never imagined. Makes for a good last boss and reinforces the power of the Belmonts.

>>5650995
Judging from the Akamatsu interview, it's possible Phases Two and Three weren't even Dracula. At most he was fused with some pagan gods for Phase Two, then that same Curse of Man was the final boss.

>>5647752
How about you fucking git gud?

>the splitting fireballs
You can stand still, press and hold the whip button, and the fireballs don't hit you.

>the flame sprites that follow you at weird angles you can't fucking hit them from
You can whip in eight directions as well as hold down the button to move the whip hitbox a full 360 degrees around yourself. You can literally cover every angle.

Did you even get to the final phase of the fight with the lightning? I bet you didn't you lil bitch. And I bet you'd find something to cry about there, too, even though it's probably the easiest phase of any fight in the game.

And how the fuck are you gonna complain about Dracula after beating Death, who is a much harder fight, and Slogra, who is easily the closest thing the game has to an unfair fight?

>>5651387
I've beat this game 3 times you tryhard. Slogra, I can beat easily. Death isn't shit when you have cross spam, but Drac is a cunt in this game and he was easier *for me* in 3.
Oh, and if you just hold the whip out, the fireball splits into 4. Retard

>>5651614
>Slogra, I can beat easily.
That's fine, but he's still the closest thing this game has to an unfair boss, as it's the only boss in the game that can hit you with unavoidable damage. In his second phase, he can do his lunging attack on the first frame after he hits the ground, and if he decides to, you're getting hit because he has i frames that last long enough for you to not hit him first.

>Death isn't shit when you have cross spam, but Drac is a cunt in this game
If you have cross spam, Dracula becomes almost as big of a joke as Medusa. You just toss crosses out at max jump height and then you just focus on dodging him when he teleports and whipping the fireballs he shoots. The crosses will also protect you from the homing flames.

>Oh, and if you just hold the whip out, the fireball splits into 4. Retard
You whip the fireball before it splits and make sure to hold down the whip button. It works every time without fail, because if you're standing in place, it destroys the bottom three fireballs and the top fireball just goes over your head harmlessly. I bet you jumped around like a fucking spaz at all times during the Dracula fight, didn't you?

>>5650995
The second phase is actually sort of creepy. It’s a floating ball of faces that bleed and scream when you kill them, sloughing off.