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5634750 No.5634750 [Reply] [Original]

I recently got the OSSC and a Retrotink-2X and I don't I'll be using my CRT again any time soon, unless for some reason I really feel like playing a light gun game.

I'll probably keep my broadcast monitor around mostly for the novelty, but I've been doing all of my retro gaming on my 50" 4K TV with Line 5X mode on the OSSC. I mean who wants to play multiplayer games on a tiny 14" or 20" PVM when you've got a huge TV in the living room?

Take the upscaler red pill.

>> No.5634774

Thats exactly what I do. As a kid and an adult I could give two shits about scan lines. I want to play on a huge screen and its far easier now that TVs are bigger, cheaper, and lighter than the CRT era.

>> No.5634801
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5634801

ew no

>> No.5634808

why do you need both the Retrotink and OSSC? don't they basically do the same thing or are they just two parts of the full chain?

>> No.5634872

>>5634801
Just don't fall for the OLED meme.

>>5634808
Two parts of the same chain, the Retrotink is only there to provide composite and s-video inputs. Mostly for my VCR and for really old shit that simply isn't worth RGB modding.

The Retrotink's smoothing filter is actually sweet for watching VHS tapes.

>> No.5634890

>>5634750
No one wants to play any game on a 14" PVM except retarded memelets who sit on the edge of their bed to play. That's why people who are serious about playing on CRTs have larger CRTs. But most aren't compensating for small penises and are fine with 29" or so. They probably also have an LCD they can play turn based multiplayer or whatever you play with your fellow casuals, so it's not like they're missing anything. Personally I have a 50" 4k, 29" trisync and 180" front projection screen in my main setup. I mean if bigger is better why embarrass yourself with a mere 50"?

>> No.5634895

>>5634872
I have an OLED tv, was thinking of getting only the retrotink but not the oscc. How does the RT look by itself?

>> No.5634928

>>5634895
It's pretty decent, but it kinda depends on how well your TV scales 480p. Most newer TVs do pretty well.

The image looks a bit softer than the OSSC's higher line multiplier mode, and obviously less customizable. But I think most people would be very happy with it.

>> No.5634941

>>5634750
I use an OSSC for most of my older consoles too. Also an OSSC plus a VGA monitor makes a good alternative for a PVM

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>>5634750
>upscaler

>> No.5635018

>>5634750
ill buy your broadcast monitor since you're no longer in need of it OP

>> No.5635027

Lol so you went from playing on a pvm which is not how most people played or how it was intended, and then you jumped all the way to the other extreme which falls in the exact same category. What's so hard about just getting a nice big, consumer crt? Seriously there's nothing wrong with how you're playing though OP, but this is a useless thread.

>> No.5635037

>>5635018
Sure, $200 and I'd be happy to sell it.

>>5635027
They're huge, and generally riddled with difficult to fix geometry issues. Geometry flaws tend to get more obvious the larger the tube is. I've yet to find a tube over 24" that isn't fucked.

>> No.5635068

>>5635037
ok, where do you live and what bvm

>> No.5635275

A good upscaler connected to a low-latency gaming monitor with motion blur reduction (backlight strobing/blank frame insertion) is acceptable.
But if it's just a typical HDTV, fuck that

>> No.5635428

>>5635275
I've got a cheap TCL 4k TV that actually does backlight strobing and has very low input latency. Based Chinese are starting to make good TVs finally.

>> No.5635545

Man if you guys are running your games through a ossc might as well emulate. 9x scale of 240p games look great on a 4k tv.

>> No.5635725

I just got my OSSC and I've been using it to play my Dreamcast via VGA. It works pretty well but I really need to fuck with the settings because I don't know what half these options are.

Still waiting on my scart cables to arrive for other consoles

>> No.5635791

>>5634750
Take the emulator pill you fool.

>> No.5635932
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>>5635791
>>5635545
Emulation is a valuable tool. I'll emulate consoles that are rare or expensive, but a lot of consoles still don't emulate well and you're better off running them on real hardware.

It's also nice to be able to use the original controllers, not worrying about input lag or inaccuracies, and the convenience of just putting in a cart and playing.

>> No.5636067

>>5635932
Real hardware is great on a CRT, once you get into flat screens and using OSSC or whatever your better off emulating it.

>but a lot of consoles still don't emulate well and you're better off running them on real hardware

What vr console doesn't emulate well? I can only think of the N64 and even that has less and less issues as it's emulators get more mature.

>> No.5636372

>>5636067
>Real hardware is great on a CRT
No one's disagree but CRTs aren't really super easy to deal with in terms of space and maintenance all of the time

>> No.5637512

>>5634750
>Take the upscaler red pill.
funny, neither of those two is an upscaler.

>> No.5637797

>>5637512
Yes they are. Line multiplication is a simple method of upscaling.

>> No.5638458

>>5636067
N64 and Saturn are 2 big ones for me. Dreamcast emulation is also not really that great.

>> No.5638501

If I just want to game on the original consoles but with a modern TV, I'd be fine with an OSSC right?

>> No.5638595

>>5634750
>Paying money for a device that allows you to hook your gaming console up to a laggy and inaccurate display.

A CRT is cheaper, and generally a better choice for retro gaming.

>> No.5638629

>>5638501
Yeah. You'd have to feed component, rgb scart or VGA into it though

>> No.5638631

>>5638595
There's always using something like an OSSC to play games on a VGA CRT

>> No.5638635

>>5638595
>A CRT is cheaper
It's also a huge chunk of space and pain in the dick to move. This isn't an issue of cost you poor fag.

>> No.5638637

>>5638629
Thank you, I appreciate this.

>> No.5638724

>>5636372
>maintenance
What did he mean by this. Literally just use them for decades and discard when done. There is no maintenance, just hoard good ones.

>> No.5639412

>>5638724
He means he's a baby who parroted something he heard another baby say on youtube

>> No.5639417

>>5638724
>and discard when done
Okay, Ill just lift and huck this random ass 200 lb beast of a crt over my shoulder and leave it on the street for nobody to come get.

>>5639412
You know the "parrot" argument is basically a "parrot" argument itself right?

>> No.5639972

>>5638501
as long as you stay away from interlaced sources, yes.

>> No.5639989

>>5639972
Noted, thank you.

>> No.5640059

>>5639972
You know, I see people say this a lot, but to me the OSSC's bob deinterlacing looks extremely similar to interlaced games on my Trinitron. Plus you can always pass 480i through to your TV if you don't like it.

>> No.5640075

>>5640059
how common is support interlaced video over hdmi in current tv-sets?

>> No.5640093

>>5640075
So far I've never run into one that doesn't support 480i, so pretty common. 1080i is a non-optional part of the spec, so everything should support that.

>> No.5640173

>>5639972
>>5639989
Interlaced content looks fine on the OSSC. The bob deinterlacing does have a "shimmer" effect to it, but that's exactly the way 480i content looks on my broadcast monitor CRT. Enabling alternating scanlines makes it less jarring, too.

>>5640075
Incredibly common.

>> No.5640465

>>5639417
You won't do any lifting or hucking because your mommy won't let you have one
I know the "parrot argument" really pisses off babies who get caught parroting

>> No.5640716

Emulator + line doubled CRT is the best option. Lower latency than the original hardware if configured correctly, and no 15kHz hum. 2nd best option is the same thing except with a strobed LCD. You can't get sharp looking motion from a 60fps game without 60Hz flicker.

>> No.5640723

>>5634801
OP never mentioned OLED